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Beyond the Bachelor: Jess Higgins · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is all most famous Beyond the Bachelor with Susie Evans.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, guys, welcome back to Beyond the Bachelor. I'm Susie,
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  Speaker 2: your host, and I'm sure everyone knows Ben Higgins from
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  Speaker 2: season twenty of The Bachelor. Today we're going to be
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  Speaker 2: talking to his wife, Jessica Clark Higgins, So please welcome jess.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Hi, how's it going and how are you. I'm good.
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  Speaker 3: I'm so happy that you're doing this and we're doing this. No,
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  Speaker 3: I was so happy when they texted me because I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 1: Wait. First of all, I love Susie and I'm so
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  Speaker 1: pumped you started a podcast. Yeah, thanks for thinking of.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah absolutely, I mean I feel like you're exactly who
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  Speaker 2: comes to mind when you think Beyond the Bachelor.
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  Speaker 1: You know. Oh, but of course.
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  Speaker 2: So I feel like, I'm sure you've talked about it
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  Speaker 2: a thousand times, but let the people know how it
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  Speaker 2: did Ben slide into the DMS. I feel like everyone
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  Speaker 2: knows that he's the one that reached out to you.
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  Speaker 3: What did that look like, what did he say? And
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  Speaker 3: how did you feel when you saw the message? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: So he was staying in Nashville at a hotel and
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  Speaker 1: there was a hockey game across the street, and he
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  Speaker 1: wanted to know who was playing in the hockey game,
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  Speaker 1: and so he searched Bridgetone Arena on his Instagram and
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  Speaker 1: I had just tagged my location there, so I popped
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  Speaker 1: up on his Explore page and he like, screenshot in
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  Speaker 1: my photo. It's a photo with my dad. So I
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  Speaker 1: always joke with him because I'm like, did you like
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  Speaker 1: me or my dad? Because he was the photo. But
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  Speaker 1: he screenshot at it and then saw it a couple
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  Speaker 1: months later and decided to shoot his shot. He was
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  Speaker 1: starting to date again after The Bachelor, and so he
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  Speaker 1: messaged me and I was home with my family for
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  Speaker 1: Thanksgiving and someone with like a million followers and it
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  Speaker 1: was back before you could buy a blue check mark,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm like, who is this person with the blue
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  Speaker 1: check mark that's messaging me. I was just working in
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  Speaker 1: Nashville and my mom had watched his season and she
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  Speaker 1: was like, you have to find out how you found
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  Speaker 1: your photo. That's so random. So I replied, and we've
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  Speaker 1: talked every day since.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I love that.
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  Speaker 2: So you kind of knew from the time that you
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  Speaker 2: dated or went on your first date that Ben was
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  Speaker 2: going to be your person. Did you have that like
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  Speaker 2: when you know you know moment?
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  Speaker 1: I think we had it as so we like facetimed
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  Speaker 1: every day for three weeks before we ever met in person.
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  Speaker 3: Are you serious?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, for like hours because he lives in Denver. He
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  Speaker 1: was living in Denver and I was in Nashville. So
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  Speaker 1: it was like one of us going to fly to
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  Speaker 1: the other one. What are we going to do to
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  Speaker 1: ever see each other in person? But we have to
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  Speaker 1: make sure it's worth it first, especially because like he
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  Speaker 1: is more of a public figure, and so I think
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  Speaker 1: that it felt like the risks were higher if, like
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  Speaker 1: it didn't work out, and I went all the way
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  Speaker 1: out there. So we facetimed for like hours a day
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  Speaker 1: and just really got to know each other and each
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  Speaker 1: other hearts, and I never met anybody like him before that.
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  Speaker 1: I just felt like we were so similar in our
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  Speaker 1: beliefs and what we wanted out of life, and we
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  Speaker 1: could talk about anything, Like I felt like nothing was
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  Speaker 1: off limits with him, and I could joke around with
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  Speaker 1: him and just be myself. So then both of us
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  Speaker 1: had a little bit to drink one night at the
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  Speaker 1: same time, and he bought me a plane ticket and
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  Speaker 1: I flew out the next day and it was like so.
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  Speaker 3: Fast, Oh my gosh. I feel like that's every fangirl's dream.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know if.
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  Speaker 2: You watched The Bachelor before or if you knew who
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  Speaker 2: Ben was, but I feel like if you've ever been
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  Speaker 2: a huge fan of like a band or a show
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  Speaker 2: or like a movie, something along those lines, your dream
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  Speaker 2: is that you're going to like stumble upon meeting this
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  Speaker 2: like famous rock star whoever, and they're going to fly
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  Speaker 2: you out and you're gonna fall in love and get
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  Speaker 2: married and have a beautiful life and you're literally living
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  Speaker 2: the dream.
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  Speaker 1: No, it really is crazy, Like I this is not
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  Speaker 1: what I ever. I never thought I would date or
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  Speaker 1: marry someone that was like in the public in any
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  Speaker 1: sort of way. But it's worked out. And he he
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  Speaker 1: you met Ben, He's just like the best person, so he.
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  Speaker 3: Makes it easy. That's so sweet. What was your.
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  Speaker 2: First experience or exposure to kind of like the limelight,
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  Speaker 2: So obviously you went out to Denver. Did people take
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  Speaker 2: pictures with you guys, did you guys get spotted or
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  Speaker 2: did you try to keep it on the DL And
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  Speaker 2: what was that like when you first did get spotted together,
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  Speaker 2: so I.
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  Speaker 1: Feel like we've never I've never really talked about this.
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  Speaker 1: But when I flew out to Denver the next day,
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  Speaker 1: he had like an appearance with a company, so he
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  Speaker 1: was he had we had to go to like this
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  Speaker 1: thing and he was doing a meet and greet and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, what this is, like do I it is weird?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: And so I went to this meet and greet with
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  Speaker 1: him and I was fine. I just sat there and
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  Speaker 1: they were giving me free food, and I just want
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  Speaker 1: to happen. I'm like, this is so bizarre, like who
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  Speaker 1: is this person? What's happening? But we weren't really like
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  Speaker 1: spotted or anything, because I was just chilling watching him
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  Speaker 1: do his thing. And I think I like went shopping
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  Speaker 1: because it was at the mall. But then we dated
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  Speaker 1: for a couple months and we went to some dinners
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  Speaker 1: and there were like all of these rumors that we
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  Speaker 1: were dating. And I started to get like some Instagram
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  Speaker 1: followers that are like this, you have to be dating Ben,
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  Speaker 1: and like all these messages and stuff. And I still
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  Speaker 1: remember the day that someone must have posted in a
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  Speaker 1: blog this is so funny to talk about because I
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  Speaker 1: feel like it was so long ago, but I remember
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  Speaker 1: I like looked at my phone and I was at
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  Speaker 1: work and I had gotten like twelve thousand views or
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  Speaker 1: something on my Instagram story and I had like a
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  Speaker 1: couple thousand followers just from college, and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: what is happening? And it was I was selling lights
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  Speaker 1: at the time, and it was a story of me
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  Speaker 1: with like this huge light bulb, and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: this is so embarrassing. And I remember that day really well.
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  Speaker 1: But that was probably the first time that I was like,
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  Speaker 1: oh he is he must be more and more important
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  Speaker 1: than I thought, yeah, because I wasn't as familiar with
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  Speaker 1: like the Bachelor world, So that was the first time.
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  Speaker 1: And then I don't even know the first time I
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  Speaker 1: met all the Bachelor people. It might have been Ashley
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  Speaker 1: and Jared's wedding, Oh.
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  Speaker 2: My gosh, and that would have been was that when
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  Speaker 2: was that? Was that before twenty twenty yes? Right, twenty
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  Speaker 2: nineteen nineteen, like this summer, And is that when sort
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  Speaker 2: of your bacheloration friendship started? Because I know, obviously you're
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  Speaker 2: super close with a lot of people like Kaylen, and
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  Speaker 2: you are obviously super close and who are else are
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  Speaker 2: kind of like your friends amongst the Bachelor Nation group.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Kaylan is probably my best friend from Bachelor Nation,
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  Speaker 1: especially because now they live in Colorado. I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: see her on Saturday. Beca Tilly has always been like
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  Speaker 1: such a great friend me. She is amazing. And then
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  Speaker 1: we see dian A Lot. We've always seen dian A
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  Speaker 1: Lot Wells. Wells has always been a really good friend.
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  Speaker 1: He and I went to the same college too. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we Ben has a lot of really good friends from
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  Speaker 1: the Bachelor and I'm really lucky that everyone has like
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  Speaker 1: been so kind and like embraced me so well.
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  Speaker 2: So well, You're easy to embrace obviously. When I met you,
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  Speaker 2: I was I mean, I feel.
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  Speaker 3: Like I knew of you through.
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  Speaker 2: The grapevine and stuff, and your reputation is wonderful. Everyone
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  Speaker 2: says you're like the most kind, sweet person and have
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  Speaker 2: the best skin, which is true. I have a book
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  Speaker 2: an appointment with you, and I feel like anyone listening
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  Speaker 2: to this if you have skin or beauty questions, I
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  Speaker 2: feel like you need to head over to Jess's Instagram
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  Speaker 2: because I feel like You've got all the answers.
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  Speaker 3: Even in person. You're just glowing.
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  Speaker 2: But it's so fun to see how you're kind of
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  Speaker 2: just like that honorary Bachelor Nation. You kind of just
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  Speaker 2: fit right in. You're not even like an honorary You're
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  Speaker 2: just a part of it now.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: That actually means a lot, because it definitely is like intimidating.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you felt that way after getting
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  Speaker 1: off the show and then you're kind of thrust into things.
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  Speaker 1: But it's a lot of people. Everyone is like, very
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  Speaker 1: good looking, and you don't know if they're gonna be
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  Speaker 1: nice or not, and most people are and it's just
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  Speaker 1: it's a crazy world. But I mean same with you.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone was like, You're gonna love Susie and I was like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: why can't meet to meet her? And we had such
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  Speaker 1: a blast.
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  Speaker 3: But so much fun.
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  Speaker 2: I'm curious your thoughts on dating shows. Do you think
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  Speaker 2: that they are a legitimate way to find love?
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  Speaker 1: That's a good question. What's so funny is I talk
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  Speaker 1: to my clients about this a lot because most of
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  Speaker 1: my clients in my skincare clinic are women, and a
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  Speaker 1: lot of them are like, should I go on the Bachelor?
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like, Dan, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: It just depends on what you want because it works
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  Speaker 1: for some people, like you really do see it happen,
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  Speaker 1: even like Kaylin and Dean, but then it doesn't work
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  Speaker 1: for a lot of people. But it's almost like a
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  Speaker 1: dating app, like you're gonna go on a lot of
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  Speaker 1: dates before you find your person. And I never thought
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  Speaker 1: I would find my husband on Instagram. So if you're
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  Speaker 1: going to find him on a TV show, like, go
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  Speaker 1: for it. But I think you have to go into
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  Speaker 1: it like expecting the worst maybe and being pleasantly surprised.
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  Speaker 1: But it's almost like a moment of like what do
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  Speaker 1: I have to lose? I know that was where Ben
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  Speaker 1: was at when he went on the show, was like
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  Speaker 1: I've got nothing else going on, like why not? And
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  Speaker 1: if it works, it works, and if it doesn't, it doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: So things like holding it all loosely so true.
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  Speaker 3: And have you watched Ben's season?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 3: Ever?
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  Speaker 1: No? So I my mom reminded me, like after bed
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  Speaker 1: and I had been dating for several months, She's like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you've seen an episode of his Bachelor season?
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  Speaker 1: Like I was home and it was on because my
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  Speaker 1: family would watch it, and I was home from college
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  Speaker 1: and it was on and I saw him and she
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  Speaker 1: said that she remembers because I looked at the TV
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  Speaker 1: screen and I was like, he's really cute. That's the
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  Speaker 1: kind of guy I would date, And like that was
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  Speaker 1: all I ever said about it. And I don't even remember.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, she's that crazy. I like low key manifested,
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  Speaker 2: but I got chills. I'm not vocal because it's cold
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  Speaker 2: in my hotel room or the story just gave me chills,
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  Speaker 2: but that's actually kind of crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, But I never went back and watched his season
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  Speaker 1: after we started dating, like the whole thing, because it's
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  Speaker 1: one thing to know that the person you're with has
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  Speaker 1: had an X or x's or done whatever. It's another thing.
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  Speaker 3: To watch it.
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  Speaker 1: And I just I don't think.
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  Speaker 3: It would be healthy. Honestly.
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  Speaker 2: I can attest to that because when I was coming
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  Speaker 2: off the show, I was with the guy that was
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  Speaker 2: the Bachelor, and I felt like I had to watch
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  Speaker 2: it back because it was also what was airing of myself.
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  Speaker 3: So I was like, I can't be unaware of what's.
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  Speaker 2: Being shown and the narrative of like what we're seeing
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  Speaker 2: as the public versus what my reality was. But it
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  Speaker 2: was really hard to like want back the person you're
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  Speaker 2: in a relationship with like fall in love or date
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  Speaker 2: or have express feelings to other people. So I totally
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  Speaker 2: get that. And I'm always curious people that have been
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  Speaker 2: the Bachelor or Bachelorette and then they're in new relationships.
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  Speaker 2: I'm always like, do people go back and watch like
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  Speaker 2: their partners?
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  Speaker 3: Do they go back?
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  Speaker 1: I can't imagine, Like I I saw a clip one
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  Speaker 1: time of him talking to one of like the last
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  Speaker 1: girls on his season, and he was like looking at
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  Speaker 1: her the way he was looking at me, and I
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  Speaker 1: was like, I cannot do this like that. That is crazy.
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  Speaker 3: That is crazy.
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  Speaker 2: When you look at it from where you guys are
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  Speaker 2: at now, like how far you've come, and you think
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  Speaker 2: about contextually, it's like when you're on the show, it's
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  Speaker 2: such a short period of time. And even though I think,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Clayton said that he was in love with
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  Speaker 2: me at that point, I'm like, based on where we
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  Speaker 2: got later in our relationship or different relationships outside, It's
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  Speaker 2: like you might think you love somebody or you might
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  Speaker 2: feel certain things in the moment, but like I feel
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  Speaker 2: like time and like having a real life relationship is
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  Speaker 2: how those things really build, and then you have those
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  Speaker 2: moments where like, oh, I totally thought that was love,
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  Speaker 2: but it really wasn't, and it's just crazy that works out.
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  Speaker 1: That's so interesting. I feel like I haven't heard a
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  Speaker 1: lot of it from the women's perspective either because I
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  Speaker 1: talked to Ben about it, but.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really interesting.
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  Speaker 1: I also think like because Ben Ben was the bachelor
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  Speaker 1: two years before I met him, maybe longer than that,
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  Speaker 1: and now we've been together for five, so it feels
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  Speaker 1: like less and less kind of significant to our relationship.
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  Speaker 1: Like right when we started dating, I was like very
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  Speaker 1: insecure about it, very worried about being compared to his ex,
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  Speaker 1: like all of those things were like all consuming. But
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  Speaker 1: then the farther you get away, the more you're like,
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  Speaker 1: oh no, you.
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  Speaker 3: Like it's just us.
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  Speaker 1: But it took a while to get there.
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  Speaker 2: And also I think I don't know if you've if
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  Speaker 2: you have this experience, but I feel like it's one
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  Speaker 2: thing to have, like you said, to have a boyfriend
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  Speaker 2: or fiance husband and then they haven't experts another thing
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  Speaker 2: to probably constantly get asked about it like I'm doing
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  Speaker 2: in this interview asking you questions about.
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  Speaker 3: The past, where people just keep.
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  Speaker 2: Revisiting this narrative because that's what people saw on TV.
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  Speaker 2: And I feel like people probably have no clue how
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  Speaker 2: hard it is to navigate like post TV show relationships,
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  Speaker 2: whether you were on it or if you're dating somebody
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  Speaker 2: that was on it.
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  Speaker 3: What would be like your best advice for.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody that is dating a former bachelor or bachelorette.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that such a niche group, but I
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  Speaker 1: stick together, honestly, I would say, like, I mean, first
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  Speaker 1: of all, I love that I didn't watch it because
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  Speaker 1: I think that that would have really messed with my
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  Speaker 1: head in a different way. And then like, remember that
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  Speaker 1: they're with you for a reason, Like it didn't work
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  Speaker 1: out with the other people for a reason, and not
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  Speaker 1: because those people are bad people by any means. Most
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  Speaker 1: of the people I've met from Ben season are some
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  Speaker 1: of my favorite girls of all time. But it's just
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  Speaker 1: like there's a reason why it worked with me and
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  Speaker 1: not them, And saying with the people that they're with
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  Speaker 1: now you know what I mean. So I think just
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  Speaker 1: like staying really confident and true to who you are
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  Speaker 1: and focusing on your own relationship, which when I started
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  Speaker 1: dating Ben, I had a mentor and she told me, like,
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  Speaker 1: wake up in the morning, and remind yourself like what
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  Speaker 1: is true today and go through the truths of today.
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  Speaker 1: So like today Ben is your boyfriend, you live in Nashville,
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  Speaker 1: you work for this company, and like going through like
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  Speaker 1: those truths helps a lot too.
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  Speaker 3: That's so powerful. Like that's powerful beyond dating.
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  Speaker 2: That's so important, whether it's like anxiety or you know,
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  Speaker 2: work trouble, because I feel like so many people get
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: caught up on like thinking. And I know even as
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  Speaker 2: you're saying, I'm like, oh, I should do that for
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  Speaker 2: myself because there's so many things happening and if you
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: can just like bring yourself back to reality and kind
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  Speaker 2: of like touch grass, then so many things evaporate from
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  Speaker 2: that realm of like the emotional side that causes anxiety
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  Speaker 2: or stress and like all the negativity totally.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like a future tripper. So I still do
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  Speaker 1: that to this day. I'll wake up and be like
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  Speaker 1: I don't need to worry about that because today I'm
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  Speaker 1: waking up, I'm going to work, I'm walking my dog.
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  Speaker 1: Like that's my truth for today. And like you said,
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  Speaker 1: it's very like grounding.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, that's so true. Okay, well besides the Bachelor stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I know you obviously get to travel with Ben occasionally
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  Speaker 2: to some of these events. Do you enjoy the travel
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  Speaker 2: or do you like being home in Colorado or do
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  Speaker 2: you prefer kind.
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  Speaker 3: Of a balance.
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  Speaker 1: I'm more of a balanced person. I love my routine,
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  Speaker 1: I love my home. I do really well when I can,
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  Speaker 1: like find time to rest, learning to rest more, and
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  Speaker 1: traveling can sometimes just make me a little bit anxious,
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  Speaker 1: especially if it's like a go go go lifestyle. Bin's
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  Speaker 1: had the go go lifestyle for like seven years, and
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  Speaker 1: he also works virtually and I work in person, and
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  Speaker 1: so I think that stresses me out a little bit too.
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  Speaker 1: We talk all the time of if it would be
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: different if my whole practice was virtual instead of in person,
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: I might not feel so anxious.
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: But I also.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: I've never experienced fomo in my life. But I think
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: I get to the point where I'm like, we'll never
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: get to have this opportunity again, Like I want to
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: do it, like the Carmel trip where I met you.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what else can I go to a Carmel
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: by the sea?
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: Are you kidding?
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: So I definitely try and weigh it in those terms
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: of will I ever be able to do this again?
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: And if the answer is maybe not, then I'll do it.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: But I always prefer to stay home.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: Such a good way to look at it.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: And there are so many cool things that you get
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: to do when you're kind of like in this world.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: What has been your favorite trip or experience that you
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: guys have done together, whether it was like brand or
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: work related, or just something that you guys have done together.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Right when we started dating, we'd been dating for like
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: eight months, and he did a golf tournament in Switzerland,
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: which now I'm looking back and I'm like, that was
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: really unlike him. He would I don't feel like he
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: would ever do that again. And I don't know if
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: it was like a flex, I have no idea, but
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: he took me to Switzerland and that was like so cool.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: I remember thinking like this guy, like who is he?
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: And this trip was amazing?
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: And so that stands out for sure, And then I'm
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: trying to think we've done like so many cool things.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: I really enjoyed the Carmel trip in Pebble Beach. I
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: thought that was really fun. Yeah, just like all these
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: places I never would normally go. Anything that we've done
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: with iHeart, I mean all of it, Like I don't
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: regret going on any single trip with him. But the
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Switzerland thing, I'm like, that was really wild of you
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: to do, but it was really fun.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Honestly, the Switzerland was definitely a flex Like that's pretty wild.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: I feel like a guy flying you to Switzerland.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Like that's just the next level living in a dream.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: If he's like daty guy, he flies you to Switzerland
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: for a golf tournament, that is wild and.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: That's so not been That's what's weird. It's like that's
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: not him at all. He's he would never do that
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: to like impress anybody. And I think he probably wanted
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: to play in the golf tournament in Switzerland and then
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: it was like, well, I guess I'll bring my new girlfriend.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Like I don't know, but yeah, we've never done anything
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: like that since, and we've never really like talked about
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: doing anything like that since.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: But that was really cool. That's awesome.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Okay, And then I want to talk a little bit
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: about your clinic in Colorado, Like what do you specialize in?
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: I feel like when I saw you last, I was
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: asking you all the skin questions, But what do you
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: specialize in? What do you see people for most? And
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: like what tips and tricks can you give people today
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: for their skin and to look beautiful and feel beautiful.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: I know, I last time we were together, I was like, no,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: we'll FaceTime and go over your skin, and then we
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: just never did. So we still need to do that,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: first of all, because it's my absolute favorite thing. But yeah,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: I have a clinic in Denver. I'm an acne specialist,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: so I usually start seeing people when they're experiencing acne,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: and then we'll get them to a point where that's
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: not really a main concern anymore, and I'll do things
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: like micro needling. I have an oxygen facial machine, so
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: technically I'm a medical asthetician as well, which is really fun.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: But I think the biggest tip that I can give
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: people really is to find like what's personalized to them,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: because we're all so uniquely made and you, I mean,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: I get overwhelmed seeing like other people's skincare routine, So
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: I can only imagine not having the knowledge that I
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: do have in seeing that. I think I would get
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: so sucked into it. But our skin is so different,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: just like our bodies are so different, and like whatever
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: you prefer is different. So I think finding like paying
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: attention to your own skin. Even meeting with a professional
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: and seeing what they would recommend based on your concerns
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: can be super, super beneficial because otherwise you're just going
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: to keep on trying things that don't work for you, right.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: And there's so much money in that industry, And I
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: feel like, I'm sure a lot of people can relate
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: to this.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: When you see people on Instagram or.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Whatever and I post about things and I try new things,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: but I think it can be really intimidating because you're
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: seeing people that probably have a filter on may or
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: may not have a filter on, and there's claiming certain
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: products do certain things. So I think that's such good
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: advice to like go seek professionally, like somebody professionally and just.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Find out what works for you. That's like, I feel
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: like everyone can can take that to heart.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I always have people that are like, You're
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: going to be so mad that I love this product,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm not mad. If you love a product,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: if it works for you, it works for you, Like
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: if you absolutely swear by and is steer them from
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: the ordinary, like that's amazing. You should keep using it
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: because it works for your skin. I'll tell you what
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: I think could be better, but that you know, use
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: what works for you. It doesn't really matter.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: That's awesome. Well, I think that's all of our questions.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, thank you so much for joining me and
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: going through and letting us like pry into your life
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: and get all the juicy ta the app Oh.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: My gosh, you literally were praying at all. That's such
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: great questions. So it's really fun to talk about because
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: it has been a while since I was like the
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: new kid on the block with the bachelor stuff, so
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: it's kind of fun to think about again.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: That's good. I'm glad.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, sometimes it feels I don't want to
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: ask too many of the same things over and over again.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: But I'm glad that you enjoyed it, and thank you
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: for joining us. I know you have to run. Thank
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: you for doing this on your lunch break.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, anytime, always always down to chat. Awesome,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Thank you, welcome, bye bye.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: Thank you so much to Jess for joining us.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: It was great to hear the behind the scenes on
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: how she met Ben and a little bit more about
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: her life in Colorado. Thank you guys for listening beyond
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: the Bachelor, We'll see you next time.