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Coping with Disasters, Paintbrush Myths, and Home Improvement Insights · Repcolite Home Improvement Show

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  Speaker 1: Good morning everybody. And yeah, if you listen regularly, you
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  Speaker 1: know I am not sounding my best. I am struggling
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. My daughter passed along, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: some kind of something, some kind of bug. And now
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  Speaker 1: I've got it and it's settled in my voice. So
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  Speaker 1: you're just gonna have to tolerate it and see if
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  Speaker 1: you can get through it. You're listening to the Repco
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  Speaker 1: Lite Home Improvement Show sponsored by Benjamin Moore, and today,
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  Speaker 1: just like all the other weeks, I've got all kinds
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  Speaker 1: of stuff planned. We're going to be talking about some
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  Speaker 1: interesting brush myths. Yeah, brush myths, you know, things that
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  Speaker 1: the Internet says that you should do that are you know,
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  Speaker 1: actually maybe not such great ideas when it comes to brushes.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll dig into that. We'll bust some of those myths.
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  Speaker 1: And I'll also be sitting down with the plumber is here,
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  Speaker 1: Mark Devisser, to talk about PEX pipes, PEX pipes and
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  Speaker 1: also chemical drain cleaners. So we'll get to all of that,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm also going to take some time at the
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  Speaker 1: end to get to my As always, you know, brilliant,
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  Speaker 1: brilliant prediction for Benjamin Moore's color of the year. They're
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  Speaker 1: going to be releasing that coming up in a couple
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  Speaker 1: of weeks, up to October sixteen, and I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: give you my pick. You know what I think is
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  Speaker 1: going to be the color of the year. We'll see
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  Speaker 1: how right or wrong I am. All of that's coming up.
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  Speaker 1: But before I jump in to all of that normal stuff,
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  Speaker 1: I am really torn today, really really really torn. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I completely get it. Right off the bat. I'm a lightweight,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm a little pink guy, and I pay
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  Speaker 1: for my radio time. You know, nobody sought me out
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  Speaker 1: and said you should be on the radio. I said, hey,
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  Speaker 1: here's some cash from Repcolite. Can I be on the radio?
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  Speaker 1: Funny cash will get you a lot of things. So
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you know, I know
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  Speaker 1: where I sit in the grand scheme of things, and
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  Speaker 1: I know that when everything is boiled down, I'm a
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  Speaker 1: bit of a silly person. That's really how it all
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  Speaker 1: shakes out. But it's been a week around the world,
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  Speaker 1: right and even though I'm a silly person, it really
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  Speaker 1: feels kind of wrong to be silly like usual, at
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  Speaker 1: least right right off the bat. You know, like you
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm sure like you, I've been watching the
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  Speaker 1: news regularly, you know, regarding the hurricane and all the
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  Speaker 1: flooding in the South. Years back, I went to seminary
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  Speaker 1: for a year and we made a mission trip basically
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  Speaker 1: to a little church out in Asheville, North Carolina. So
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  Speaker 1: spent a week down there, And so when I see
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  Speaker 1: Ashville flooded, you know, I only had that small connection
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  Speaker 1: to it, but it does make it just a touch
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  Speaker 1: more real. But I've been watching all of that, and
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  Speaker 1: it's just it's crazy tough to process, you know, literally
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  Speaker 1: what's happening out there. You know, it's tough. It's impossible,
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  Speaker 1: impossible to process the depth of everything going on, you know,
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  Speaker 1: all the suffering, all the suffering that's happening out there.
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  Speaker 1: A week ago, lives were normal, you know, people had
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  Speaker 1: their usual hopes, their dreams, all of that stuff. People
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  Speaker 1: were thinking about last week, you know, the past week.
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  Speaker 1: They're just thinking about, like you and I right now,
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  Speaker 1: thinking about what our last week was like, that's what
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  Speaker 1: they were thinking about, you know, thinking about work problems. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: when I get into work on Monday, I'm gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to deal with this, all of those things going on
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  Speaker 1: in their heads. They're thinking about school, about homework, you know,
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  Speaker 1: homework they had to get done before Monday morning. Who knows.
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  Speaker 1: People were out there living normal lives and then all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden, just like we watched on the news,
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  Speaker 1: you know, from a safe distance most of us, everything
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  Speaker 1: everything changed. Homes lost, town's gone, family separated, people killed,
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  Speaker 1: power outages, roads swept away, just absolutely horrific and staggering,
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  Speaker 1: and like I said, impossible, impossible for us really to comprehend.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I've had an inch of water show up
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  Speaker 1: in my unfinished basement in the past, you know, a
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  Speaker 1: couple different times. And when that happens, my cotton candy
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  Speaker 1: world just comes crumbling down. You know, I am not
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  Speaker 1: cut out for any kind of you know, serious, serious tragedy.
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  Speaker 1: When little things happen to me, I melt down, and
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  Speaker 1: I feel like the world is against me, you know,
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  Speaker 1: all of those things. It's pathetic. I can't fathom the
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  Speaker 1: burden that a father or a mother, you know, feels
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  Speaker 1: in the situation that we watched unfold this past week.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm the dad right in my house. I'm
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  Speaker 1: the rock that should scare you know, a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people should you know, make you wonder how in the
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  Speaker 1: world we've survived this long. But I'm the rock right
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  Speaker 1: with the kids. They see me as stability. But when
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  Speaker 1: the world's upside down, you know, how do you do it?
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  Speaker 1: I have no idea how those people are getting through
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  Speaker 1: or the kids, you know, think about that. How scared
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  Speaker 1: they've got to be, you know, so shell shocked by
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  Speaker 1: everything they're living through. Anyway, I'm thinking about all of
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  Speaker 1: that right now. And then you know, on top of that, now,
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  Speaker 1: now we've got the dock workers strike starting up, and
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  Speaker 1: you got to wonder what that's gonna do. You know,
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  Speaker 1: how much impact that's going to have on supply chains
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  Speaker 1: things like that, on food, toilet paper. Are we going
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  Speaker 1: to be you know, back to the toilet paper wars
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  Speaker 1: again for a little bit. Who knows. And then then
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  Speaker 1: you've got the fire in Georgia and then deepening unrest
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  Speaker 1: in the Middle East. It's been a week, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a crazy, crazy, crazy week. Now this show absolutely is
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  Speaker 1: not about talking about those things. Usually I avoid them
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  Speaker 1: just because people come here, well hopefully they come here
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  Speaker 1: for a break, you know, from some of those things.
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  Speaker 1: But like I said, this one's just bigger, bigger than
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  Speaker 1: some other things, and I just I couldn't really move
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  Speaker 1: on without saying something about it, you know. And I
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  Speaker 1: know this show's not for that. You know. That's not
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  Speaker 1: my point here, that's not my purpose here. There's much smarter,
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  Speaker 1: savvier people out there who talk about these things. But
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  Speaker 1: this week too big for me to just roll on
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  Speaker 1: by and be silly. Right off the bat. It just
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  Speaker 1: felt wrong. Now. I know everybody out there, all of
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  Speaker 1: you listening, everybody's got their own beliefs, and you know you.
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  Speaker 1: For me, I'm a Christian, and I believe that prayer
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  Speaker 1: makes a difference. I believe God's really there despite all
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  Speaker 1: of this misery, and I believe that He's got the
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  Speaker 1: power to work in the midst of it. I'm helpless
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  Speaker 1: largely right now, at least it feels that way. It
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  Speaker 1: seems that way in this grand scope of things. It
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  Speaker 1: feels like I'm a bit helpless to do much good
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  Speaker 1: in these situations right now around the world. But I
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  Speaker 1: can pray, and it's not a throwaway. You know. Again,
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  Speaker 1: I really believe it makes a difference, And like a
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  Speaker 1: lot of you, I'm eager to donate. You know. That
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  Speaker 1: seems like a good thing that I can do. It
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  Speaker 1: seems like something productive. But before you rush out and
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  Speaker 1: do that, Before I rush out and do that and
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  Speaker 1: send money all over the place, I did want to
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  Speaker 1: take a second. I dug into it a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: I found a great resource, a great place to start
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  Speaker 1: if you go to charitynavigator dot org. They're an organization
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  Speaker 1: that's been around since two thousand and one, and what
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  Speaker 1: they do is they rate charities. A lot of you
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  Speaker 1: are probably aware of them, but they rate charities based
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  Speaker 1: on the cost effectiveness and the overall health. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I have a charities programs Basically you can go and
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  Speaker 1: check out the places that you're donating to and make
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  Speaker 1: sure that your dollars are going to the cause that
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  Speaker 1: you support. And you can also make sure that the
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  Speaker 1: charity you're supporting is doing work that you want to support.
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  Speaker 1: It's really really a great resource for situations like this.
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  Speaker 1: You know, scammers come out of the woodwork when disasters hit,
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  Speaker 1: and they play off our emotions and our sentimentalities, so
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  Speaker 1: be careful about that. Don't go just donating your money
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  Speaker 1: to sources you haven't checked out. So charitynavigator dot org
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  Speaker 1: it's a great resource. I'll put a link in the
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  Speaker 1: show notes, so you can check it out. And when
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  Speaker 1: you navigate to their site, basically you end up just
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  Speaker 1: scrolling down. You scroll down maybe half the page or so,
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  Speaker 1: and they're going to have a section a list of
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  Speaker 1: causes that you can support. The hurricane is one of
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  Speaker 1: the first ones. If you click that, then it's going
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  Speaker 1: to bring you to a page where you've got a
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  Speaker 1: huge list of potential charities to explore. You know, everything
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  Speaker 1: from you know, Samaritan's Purse to the Humane Society to
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  Speaker 1: local efforts and everything in between, so a lot of
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  Speaker 1: different things. And you can again look at their ratings,
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  Speaker 1: see how this organization has rated them for how they
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  Speaker 1: use their money and all of that, and you can
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  Speaker 1: click on them and find out more about what they're
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  Speaker 1: doing with the funds. So look into that. If you're
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  Speaker 1: feeling the desire to help but you're not sure what
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  Speaker 1: in the world to do and you're concerned about scam,
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  Speaker 1: artists will start there charitynavigator dot org. Now, I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: with everything going on right now, most of us are
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  Speaker 1: you know, we're heartbroken, we're concerned, maybe we're scared, you
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  Speaker 1: name it. But keep people who are suffering in your
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  Speaker 1: thoughts and prayers. Of course, you know you don't need
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  Speaker 1: me to say that. Look for practical ways to help
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  Speaker 1: check that site that I talked about, and be wise
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  Speaker 1: with your donations. And of course, though it doesn't help
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  Speaker 1: the people who are struggling right now. You know, last
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  Speaker 1: thing I'll say here is actively look for peace in
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  Speaker 1: the ways and places that you find peace. And I
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  Speaker 1: mean actively go out looking for it. Don't wait for
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  Speaker 1: peace to descend or cross your path, or joy or happiness.
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  Speaker 1: Go looking for it. Walk around with your eyes wide open.
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  Speaker 1: Hug your family, pet your dog. You know, appreciate the
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  Speaker 1: home that you've got, the vehicle it's rusted out as
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  Speaker 1: it may be. The flowers in your flower bed that
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  Speaker 1: are still, you know, hanging on to color, appreciate them.
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  Speaker 1: Appreciate the weeds for goodness sake that are so tenacious,
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  Speaker 1: you know, admire their commitment, if nothing else. Appreciate your
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  Speaker 1: lawn that needs mowing all the time. And the leaves,
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  Speaker 1: of course, the leaves. Appreciate the leaves that you're going
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  Speaker 1: to be raking up soon. You know. Even the things
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  Speaker 1: that we sometimes write off as annoyances, they're pretty great
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  Speaker 1: when you look at the grand scheme of things, and
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  Speaker 1: I know that you don't need some guy from repcol
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  Speaker 1: like telling you all of that. It's crazy that I'm
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  Speaker 1: even talking about it. But as we're all too well aware,
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  Speaker 1: we don't get any guarantees, So make the most of
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  Speaker 1: every minute that you get. All right, that's enough of that.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to take a break now, and when we
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  Speaker 1: get back, we'll get to the usual silly stuff and
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  Speaker 1: I'll be busting some paintbrush miths. That's all coming up
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  Speaker 1: in just a minute. Stick around, and we're back. You're
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  Speaker 1: listening to the repel Light Home Improvement Show. We're back.
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  Speaker 1: Do you hear my voice? Do that? It's because I'm
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  Speaker 1: sick and I'm still here. It's because I care that much.
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  Speaker 1: We're back. You're listening to the repel Light Home Improvement Show,
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  Speaker 1: sponsored by Benjamin Moore. And it's time for the paint
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  Speaker 1: point for the week. And this one's going to be
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  Speaker 1: short and right to the point. I'm gullible, you know,
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  Speaker 1: even when I think that I'm being skeptical and wise
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  Speaker 1: and discerning, I'm still gullible. That's why when I talked
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  Speaker 1: about donating to different causes and charities in the last segment.
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  Speaker 1: I had to find some website, some source that will
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  Speaker 1: give me good information. And I'm laughing because just now
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking about it, I'm gullible. Did I find a
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  Speaker 1: good source to give me correct information? So definitely do
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  Speaker 1: your research on that one. Anyway, I'm gullible. I believe
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  Speaker 1: everything because deep down when I think about it, deep down,
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  Speaker 1: even though I've got limited reason to do so, I
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  Speaker 1: trust people, right, So when people show me something or
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  Speaker 1: tell me something, I look into their eyes, I look
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  Speaker 1: into their soul, and then I use my superpowers to
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  Speaker 1: discern the truth, and then I see it. I see
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  Speaker 1: the truth. I see right in their eyes. I see
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  Speaker 1: you know, honesty, I see good intentions and all of
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  Speaker 1: those other things. And then I find out down the
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  Speaker 1: road once again, all of it was lies, all lies. Now,
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  Speaker 1: of course, you may hear that, and you may think
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  Speaker 1: that there's a silver lining in that. You may think,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I guess I would think that these experiences
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  Speaker 1: probably are helping me, you know, become a better person
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  Speaker 1: who's less likely to get fooled or you know, tricked. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a born sucker, except in one area. Now, maybe
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  Speaker 1: there's a couple areas, maybe but specifically, I want to
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  Speaker 1: talk about one area the paint world, you know, in
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  Speaker 1: this particular realm. Probably because I've been in it so long,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not a complete sucker, and I do see certain
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  Speaker 1: things and I see them as the diculous claims they are,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm always surprised when other people don't see them
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  Speaker 1: that way. And that's the paint point for the week.
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  Speaker 1: I want to talk about some brush myths or brush hacks.
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  Speaker 1: I guess it's probably a bit of both that are
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  Speaker 1: out there, and I want to make sure that you
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  Speaker 1: see them for the bad ideas that they really are.
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  Speaker 1: Now here's here's one that I've run into online and
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  Speaker 1: I've had customers actually ask me about in the store.
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  Speaker 1: So this one gets around the problem that the hack
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  Speaker 1: is addressing. Is this, you know how when you dip
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  Speaker 1: your brush into the bucket to get paint on it,
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  Speaker 1: and then you kind of clean off some of that paint,
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  Speaker 1: some of that excess paint by rubbing the brush against
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  Speaker 1: the lip of the can, you know inside. Well, when
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  Speaker 1: you do that, of course, you end up getting paint,
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  Speaker 1: you know, puddling around in the rim of the can,
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  Speaker 1: and then you put the lid on and you whack
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  Speaker 1: it down and then paint sprays everywhere, right, real paint
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  Speaker 1: in the neck. Well, here's the Internet's fixed for that one.
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  Speaker 1: The hack. All you need to do is take a
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  Speaker 1: rubber band and stretch it over your paint can. Now
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna have to use, you know, use your imagination
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  Speaker 1: here because it's really tough to describe this. Even for
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  Speaker 1: somebody with as many clear verbal skills as I have,
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  Speaker 1: it's still difficult to describe. So anyway, picture this. You
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  Speaker 1: pick up your paint can and then you kind of
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  Speaker 1: loop a great big rubber band under the bottom of
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  Speaker 1: the can, and then set the paint can down right
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  Speaker 1: on the rubber band, all right. Then you stretch the
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  Speaker 1: rubber band up the sides of the can and then
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  Speaker 1: kind of snap it or carefully put it over, you know,
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  Speaker 1: loop it over the top the opening of the can.
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  Speaker 1: You're not going around the circumference of the can. You're
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  Speaker 1: going from the bottom to the top, all right. The
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  Speaker 1: goal is to loop that rubber band over that center
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  Speaker 1: opening of the can, like I said, And then all
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  Speaker 1: you need to do is dip your brush in and
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  Speaker 1: then wipe off the excess on that rubber band. The
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  Speaker 1: excess paint on that rubber band, and there you go.
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  Speaker 1: Miracle of miracles, no paint in the rim. Right, that's dumb,
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  Speaker 1: that's crazy, dumb. You know, my experience with rubber bands
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  Speaker 1: tells me this. I mean that alone tells me that
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  Speaker 1: that's a dumb idea. That rubber band, once it's covered
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  Speaker 1: with paint, if it's in my house, it's going to
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  Speaker 1: sneak over the lip of the can and then you know,
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  Speaker 1: snap against the counter, snap against the carpet wherever, and
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna spray paint everywhere. It's just dump. Don't do that.
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  Speaker 1: We're better than that, right, we're better than that. We're smarter,
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  Speaker 1: and don't use anything else for this purpose either. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I've seen people drill holes into the top of the can,
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  Speaker 1: into the lip of the can, that little rim, and
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  Speaker 1: then they run a wire across that opening, you know,
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  Speaker 1: put part of it through those little holes, bend it around,
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  Speaker 1: and then they've got the wire stretch there. It's the
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  Speaker 1: same idea. You know, there's no chance for the rubber
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  Speaker 1: band to snap and spray paint because there's no rubber band.
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  Speaker 1: But now you've got holes in the rim of the
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  Speaker 1: can and that interferes with the can's ability to seal well,
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  Speaker 1: making it really likely that you'll cause your paint to
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  Speaker 1: dry out faster. Now, instead, here's the right answer. We
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  Speaker 1: sell plastic poor spouts at Repcolite. They're crazy inexpensive. They
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  Speaker 1: just snap onto a gallon can. They'll bend and snap
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  Speaker 1: onto a quart can and they'll snap right into the rim.
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  Speaker 1: You can from the can using one of those and
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  Speaker 1: not end up with paint in the rim. And you
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  Speaker 1: can just leave it on the can and then use
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  Speaker 1: the lip of the poor spout to remove the excess
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  Speaker 1: paint from your brush as you're painting. You'll keep the
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  Speaker 1: rim clean, the can will still seal perfectly, and when
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  Speaker 1: you're done, you're gonna have zero risk of rubber band mishaps.
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  Speaker 1: All right, that's one ridiculous paint brush hack out there.
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  Speaker 1: Here's another one, and maybe this one's a bit of
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  Speaker 1: a paint brush myth rather than a hack, but either way,
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  Speaker 1: it's all over the place. You see it everywhere. If
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  Speaker 1: you want to clean out your brush, just soak it
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  Speaker 1: overnight or whatever. It long, bring long stretches of time,
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  Speaker 1: just soak it in the appropriate solvent. Nobody wants to
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  Speaker 1: do the actual work of cleaning out that brush, not
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  Speaker 1: when you can soak it. So just drop it in
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  Speaker 1: a quart or a can, you know, with water or
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  Speaker 1: whatever the solvent is. Let's just for the sake of
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  Speaker 1: this conversation, assume you're working with a water based paint
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  Speaker 1: and the Internet tells you just fill up a little
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  Speaker 1: container with water, drop the brush in there, let it
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  Speaker 1: sit overnight. It's gonna be clean in the morning. All right.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: That's absolutely not the way to do it. You're gonna
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: damage the bristles. You're gonna damage the brush over time.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: Just don't do that. The best way to clean out
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: your brush, we talk about it all the time, is
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: just to do it right away. As soon as you're
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: done painting. Clean the brush. If it's water based paint,
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: just run the brush under warm water and then using
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: your fingers, keep working the paint out. You know, depending
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: on the brush and how careful you were when you
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: were painting, this can take a few minutes, but it's
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: not gonna take you long. Now. Once the water's clean
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: coming out of the brush, just put the handle between
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: your palms, you know, hold it bristles facing down into
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: the sink, or go outside or something, and then with
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: the handle between your palms, you do that universal sign
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: for making fire, you know, with a stick. Twist it
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: around like that, make fire with a stick really really
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: well with your brush, you know, with a brush handle
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: between your palms, and that's gonna spin it mostly dry.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Then all you need to do is wrap it back
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: up in the sleeve that it came in, or if
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: you've tossed that, wrap the bristles in a paper towel
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: and then mold it to the original brush shape and
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: then store it that way. That part's really important. It
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: preserves the brush as shape. If you don't do that often,
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: the bristles are going to splay out and it's not
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: going to be so great to work with anymore. Now,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: a couple things when painting that can help with clean out.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: First off, when you're working, be diligent and work to
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: keep the paint low on the bristles of the brush.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: It's going to start to work its way higher up
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: those bristles to some extent, but if you're careful when
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: filling it and using it, you can make sure the
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: paint doesn't go as high as that metal feral. Now,
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: the higher the paint gets into your brush into those bristles.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: The more of a paint that's going to be to
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: clean out. So work carefully and the bristles will clean
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: up quicker and the brush is going to last longer.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: All right. One last thing that I've got time for
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: is use a Corona Excalibur brush. I talk about these
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: all the time on the show. They're my favorite brushes
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: for most projects, and the reason is all in the cleanup, really,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: That's what it's all about for me. They have China
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: e'x bristles that are made to release water based paint
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: smoothly and evenly. That means they're going to give you
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: a great finish when you're working with them. But a
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: side benefit is that they really release the paint when
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: you're cleaning them as well. You can clean an EXCaliber
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: brush in probably thirty to forty seconds running water. It's
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: gonna be a huge time saver. And I've got video proof.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: If you question my veracity, you want to see it
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: with your own eyes, I've got video proof on our
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: social media pages, so go check that out. Now. These
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Corona Excalibur brushes, last thing I'll say about them. They're
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: on sale right now through the rest of October, you
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: can get a two and a half inch brush for
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: twelve twenty six, basically just over twelve dollars and the
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: usual price is twenty three. So seriously, if you do
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: any amount of painting at home, go get one or two.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: They clean up so easily. They're going to last you
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: for years. And when you think about how a cheap
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: throwaway brush is usually about six bucks after just two projects,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: this Corona brush is gonna have paid for itself and
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: you'll still have it around for tons of projects for
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: years down the road. You know, I've got some at
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: home that I've had for ten or more years. They're
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: great brushes, So check those out. Corona Excaliburs. All right,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: let's take a quick break. When we come back, I'm
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: going to be in the studio with Mark Divisser from
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: the Plumbers Here. It's all next, stick around, and we're back.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: You're listening to the Repcolite Home Improvement Show sponsored by
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Benjamin Moore, and right now the plumber is here. I'm
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: in the studio with Mark Devisser from Great Lakes Plumbing.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Thanks for being here, good to be here. All right, Mark,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: let's just jump right in. I want to get straight
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: to the questions. I've got a great one here. It's
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: really loaded, and I don't know how long it will
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: take to get to it. Maybe it'll be really fast. Okay.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: It's an email from Steve Ass and he wants to
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: know this. If you were redoing the plumbing in your
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: own home, or if you were building a home for you,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: would you use PEX pipes?
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: One hundred percent? Okay, use PEX pipes.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: So explain packs just for the people who aren't familiar,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: and then let's talk about why you would would use this.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Okay. Pex is a form of plastic. There is different grades.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: One of them is expandable, one of them isn't I
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: use that. I don't use expandable fittings. There are fittings
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: that expand. It gives you more volume. The government restricts
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: the flow on everything now so you can't run as
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: much water volume as you wanted to. So I don't
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: see volume as a problem. So we personally don't use
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: expanded fittings. But they're they're fine, and there's there's some
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: good processes. All A lot of processes have had had
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: some issues. There's some rumors out there. The latest rumor
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: that I'm hearing is that chlorine can cause pecks to
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: leak if you bend it sharply. I don't have any
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: real proof, but I'm on a pretty big page with
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: thousands of plumbers and there are they're talking about it okay,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: and it usually means there's something to it.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: But even with that, you'd still use it.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: I would still use it. Copper has a lifetime. I
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: don't know what copper has a lifetime of. I think
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: it's they say fifty five years. We don't do much copper.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: We do it for repairs, but but I don't know
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: many there there's some homes out there that they're still
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: doing copper. It's gotten incredibly time. There's so much time
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: to do a job like that. So I think a
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: lot of it is, you know, just you can do
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: it in such a smaller I mean.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: I think which keep running hoss down.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you could probably run pecks in a
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: fifth of the time maybe of what it would take
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: to run copper. And people are concerned about what's they're
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: in their water, and I think they're even concerned about,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: you know, whether there's something coming out of the copper.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: The solder joints, those have. You have to have different sodder.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Now you have to have different paste. Now, lead free sodder,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: certain kinds of pace that's supposed to be beaten less
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: harmful to you, and I there there are some rumors
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: also you could find somebody out there that will tell
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: you pecks is harmful for you. You can find people
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: that tell you copper's harmful for you. I don't know
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: if anything's been proven yet, but I would use it.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: I think it's a value. It's a less expensive product,
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: but I think it's a better product. One product is
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: it it It has a better insulation value, so you
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: have less loss from the hot side, you have less
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: sweating from the cool I've only seen one or two
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: pecks pipes sweat because they're thicker, and it just doesn't
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: kind of say it is bad.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: And you haven't run into issues with it bursting or
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: anything like.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna tell you that in all the
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: pecks that we probably the biggest thing is in all
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: the pecks that we have run, we may have had
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: three leaks. So there's a value in that that, you know.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, nobody's really gonna know. I don't know how
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: long are you not going to be around maybe smart
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: years years, sit down and decide that, Okay, this didn't
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: work for those people who know polybutelane. I ran it
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: in the eighties with some companies. It was supposed to
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: be the ultimate new piping. That stuff is absolute garbage.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: I think the township told me they I asked a
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: while back, how many of these water services you think
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: you're replacing? They said probably five a week in town.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: These are houses that are twenty years old and they're.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: So that's something a full.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: New water service from the house to the road.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Something that predates packs. Yeah.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Really, I mean pecks may have been used in some areas,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: but I started in eighty seven and they were running
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: miles of this stuff, and I mean we have people
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: that have a two inch line running thousands of feet
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: to the house. I mean, this is probably jobs that
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: it's thirty grand now to probably fix something like that.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: That's what that other type.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Of with with with new. If you had to replace
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: it now, and if you had done copper, it would
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: be like brand new. So that's the only I have
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: started to run pecks to houses now for underground water
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: lines from the city, just because people want it, because
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: it's cheaper. I've just said you want it, I'll put
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: it in. It's fine. But I would run copper to
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: a house every day, underground, five feet deep. Whatever it's
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: it's worth the extra seven eight hundred dollars to run
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: copper because I can cut a piece of copper right
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: now that was put in in the eighties, and as
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: far as I'm concerned, it's brand new.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: So just to be clear, you're talking about, you would
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: run copper underground.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Underground from like a service from the road to the house,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: and I would tell anybody there's a value in running.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Copper, and then in the house.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: In the house, I would run pecks.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: And you think that's just fine. Yep, all right. I
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: know there are a lot of questions out there about packs,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: and you know it's been around for ages.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: It has been used in water treatment far longer than
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: we've been using it and plumbing is the way I
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: understand it.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, we got that answer. Let's move on.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: I've got uh something this This comes from Noah. This
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: was a conversation that I actually had with Noah. He
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: was explaining that he had a notoriously slow draining sync.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: You know, he plunges it on a regular basis and
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: then that helps, but then of course that the slow
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: drain always returns. He's wondered about the effectiveness of all
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: the different chemical drain cleaners. You know, what do you
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: think of those kinds of products? Is there something if
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: there's one you like because there's one you recommend, or
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: what does he need to do with just dealing with
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: a slow drain.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: I would say first that I think those products are
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: almost useless and dangerous. Okay, I have pictures of guys
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: where it is splashed on their face and burn their
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: entire face. I know companies that will actually I don't
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: know that we have an exact but literally, if you're
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: dealing with where they have draino down there or something
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: like that, a chemical that can burn you that it'll
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: actually cost you more to have somebody work on it.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: It is a dangerous acid. I mean, people claim that
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: they've gotten them open. I've had people tell me I
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: do believe that what you see in the commercial on
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: TV where the whole clog goes away is the funniest
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: thing on earth because it's basically going to open a
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: hole the size of the pencil, and then it's you mean.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: That big clump of whatever that looks like a small
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: cat just wash.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Out does not happen. So you open up a hole
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: till it drains out, and people think they got it unclogged,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: and then they wonder why it clogs up again in
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: a week because it's you're just creating a little hole.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: I think that you you have to use either a
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: good drain machine to open it up, or you might
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: we might even replace the PVS if it's PV. If
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: our policy is if it's metal, we're going to replace it.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: If it's metal, we're not going I mean smaller lines
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: like kitchen and lavatories, we're not going down them with
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: machines because we're going to break the cable and then
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: it's going to be stuck down in there. We're going
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: to tell If it's PVC, we'll clean it. If it's metal,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: we're going to cut it out and replace it. If
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: it's PVC and it's twenty five years old, there might
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: be a vailue in. If it's accessible, there might be
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: a vailue in just replacing it and just putting a
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: new chunk.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: In kind of a case by case basis is.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: The worst case would be, you know a house that's
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: one hundred and some years old in downtown Holland or
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Grand Rapids, and it's on a second floor. None of
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: the pipes are accessible. They're metal drains. That's a tough one.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, I've seen guys use even different types of acid.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: I think it's risky. I don't think there's a good
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: value in it. I think most of the time people
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: are gonna call back and say, oh, it plugged back
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: up again. I hate to say, man, you're going to
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: open up the ceilings and replace these lines. But the
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: truth is it's got to get done sometime. It's there.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: If they're metal, they're not going to last forever.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: So how does that work? They call you, Do you
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: do anything like a free estimate? You'll give them all
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: walk through how that would work. We'll give a free
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: estimate if they bring a clean Xbox for the tears
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: that's going to happen.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: There's some situations that just are not good situations, and
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: anything that's metal that's going to deteriorate, you know, no
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: different than a muffler on your car. It's not gonna
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: last forever. I don't know what do you start trying
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: to patch it? And you know, on what point do
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: you say, you know what, it's time to replace this
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: thing from the man fold on the engine all the
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: way back and get a brand new system. And it's
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: kind of the same thing with plumbing.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Right, And then how long is that going to last
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: before I got that?
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the probably the biggest problem is
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: what people are putting down their sinks. People are putting
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: grease down. I mean, it's amazing how many people don't
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: realize what grease does to a small drain, and and
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: how bad it how bad it will harden up, and
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: it's just it's just a sloppy mess, and you gotta
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: wipe your stuff out. You wipe your bacon pan out
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: with a paper towel and throw it in the garbage
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: before you wash it. I mean, don't I think I've
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: told the story a number of times. We went to
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: a chicken fry where they're actually frying it in the grease,
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: and the lady took the whole thing and was going
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: to start to dump it down the sink, and my way.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Said what he's doing.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: She's like, I'm gonna pour this out, and she goes
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: she had no idea that she shouldn't do that. Wow,
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: And we we get into Greece on a weekly basis,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: and it's a mess, and it's expensive, and it's it's
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: just it's hard to get through sometimes and to really
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: get it all out of there. So the biggest thing
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: is I mean, if you take care of your drains
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: and you don't put stuff down, I mean, I guess
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: it should last twenty or thirty years.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Oh. I get tired of having to take care of everything.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: I got this house and I can't even let the
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: sinks go. I got to maintain maintain everything. Oh yep.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Well you asked at the beginning, how long are we
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: going to be here? And I said a long long time. Yeah,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: maybe I'll get lucky and it'll be shorter than that. Anyway,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: all right, Mark, that's all the time we've got on this.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Thanks for hanging out with me answering these questions. If
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: our listeners do want to get you out there, I'm
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: specifically thinking about Noah with that slow drain. If he
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: wants to get you out there, get a free estimate
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: it would you decide what means?
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you. With drains, it's hard to
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: give a free estimate. We'll give you an idea of pricing,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: and we're going to come out and it's going to
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: be what it's gonna be. But like replacing water lines
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: and most other things, uh, you know, a drain, you
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: can't see anything but the opening.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: You can give them an idea though we get kind
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: of deal.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, I often tell people eighty five percent of
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: the time it's going to cost between this and this.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: It's that other fifteen percent that you're like gambling. You
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: don't know how difficult it's gonna be. We don't know
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: if we're going to get in there, and then the lines,
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: the lines all rusted out, and we've now opened up
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: that rust hole and now you've got water coming through
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: the ceiling. All these are.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Things you could get lucky and that could happen, right,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: because that's like winning the lottery in a way.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: It's fun to say I had this problem that few
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: other people did, right exactly, if they do want to
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: get you out there and walk, you know, have you
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: walk them through the situation. How's the best way to
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: get in touch?
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: If you google the plumbers here dot com, you're gonna
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: find a way to call us. You're going to find
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: a way to text us, and you're going to find
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: a way to email us.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: All right, reach out to Mark. I'll put links in
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: the show notes. Mark, thanks for being here, glad to
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: be here.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: All Right, we're going to take a break. When we
• 32:05
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  Speaker 1: around the corner. Stick around, and we're back. You're listening
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  Speaker 1: to the Repical Light Home improvement show sponsored by Benjamin Moore,
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  Speaker 1: and it's time for my prediction, you know, my brilliant, informed,
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  Speaker 1: reasoned prediction for the Color of the Year for twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty five. But before I get to that, I want
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  Speaker 1: to go back to a snippet from an interview that
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  Speaker 1: we aired back in June of this year. There's some
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  Speaker 1: really critical information in this snippet, so listen carefully. I'm
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  Speaker 1: interviewing Andrea Magno from Benjamin Moore. And Andrea leads up
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  Speaker 1: the Color of the Year team every year over there.
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  Speaker 1: So here's a snippet of what she said about the process.
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  Speaker 3: You know, there's a number of months of research that
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  Speaker 3: we do, whether it's travel, it's going to different events,
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  Speaker 3: going to you know, looking at what's happening at retail,
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  Speaker 3: looking at what's happening culturally, socially in design. So if
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  Speaker 3: we launch in October, immediately after we launch, we're already
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  Speaker 3: thinking about the next year. So you know, our antenna
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  Speaker 3: goes up. We're looking to see, you know, what's happening
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  Speaker 3: in the world. And so our team, everyone individually, is
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  Speaker 3: pulling together all of these bits and pieces, taking pictures
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  Speaker 3: of anything and everything that just catches our eye. And honestly,
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  Speaker 3: nothing is off limits, you know, anything is brought to
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  Speaker 3: the table. And then what we'll do is get together
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  Speaker 3: as a team and start workshopping it and synthesizing it
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  Speaker 3: to see, you know, how are the puzzle pieces fitting together.
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  Speaker 3: Is there a color family that's really standing out? You know,
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  Speaker 3: And usually when everybody is gravitating towards maybe cooler colors,
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  Speaker 3: normal colors, particular color family, that's where you know, we
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  Speaker 3: start to say, okay, there's definitely a story already to
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  Speaker 3: unfold here, and you know what, how is the concept,
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  Speaker 3: you know, what is happening in the world that is
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  Speaker 3: going to be part of whatever the concept will be.
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  Speaker 3: How can we then articulate that through color and looking
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  Speaker 3: at the colors that we've been seeing.
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  Speaker 2: Through all of our travels.
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  Speaker 3: So I would say by end of January, we usually
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  Speaker 3: have the color and the palette picked out, so it's
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  Speaker 3: it's picked out well in.
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  Speaker 1: Advance, all right. So a couple key points to take
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  Speaker 1: out of all of that, you know, everything that Andrea
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  Speaker 1: Magno said before I get to my pick of the year.
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  Speaker 1: First off, when Benjamin Moore's picking their color of the year,
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  Speaker 1: they're trying to pick up on our collective mood. You know,
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  Speaker 1: that's what they're looking at. Secondly, a big surprise to
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  Speaker 1: me is that they've already picked twenty twenty five's color
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  Speaker 1: by January of twenty twenty four, So everything that happened
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  Speaker 1: from February of twenty twenty four to now doesn't really
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  Speaker 1: play in to their prediction. So, you know, with all
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  Speaker 1: of that info, I put my thinking cap on and
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  Speaker 1: I started mentally walking through the time from October of
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty three through about January of twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 1: That's the time period I'm looking at, because that's what
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  Speaker 1: they were working with when they picked their color. Now
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  Speaker 1: when I look at that, here's what I come up
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  Speaker 1: with the big news in the world, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: big stories that are circulating. First off, AI, that was
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  Speaker 1: becoming a bigger and bigger story in the news, and
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  Speaker 1: as that increased in popularity, we were starting to see,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a fair amount of concerns rising about how
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  Speaker 1: AI was going to affect everything it touches. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it is exciting to some people and it was really
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  Speaker 1: concerning to others. So that was definitely out there in
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people's you know, thoughts and concerns at
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  Speaker 1: the time. We also had conflicts in the Middle East
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  Speaker 1: that began on October seven, and everybody was worried about
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  Speaker 1: what that destabilization was going to do and look like
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  Speaker 1: over the course of how long. You know, we didn't
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  Speaker 1: know at that point. The Russia and Ukraine situation, that
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  Speaker 1: was an ongoing conflict. You know, it certainly didn't start
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  Speaker 1: back then, but it was ongoing and didn't have an
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  Speaker 1: end in sight, and that was permeating the news during
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  Speaker 1: that time period as well. So as the Benjamin Moore
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  Speaker 1: team started working on their color for twenty twenty five,
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  Speaker 1: that's what's going on. And one other thing to remember
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  Speaker 1: to add in is that they knew full well that
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  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four we were heading into a presidential election.
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  Speaker 1: So with all of those world events and concern spinning,
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  Speaker 1: plus a fair amount of economic struggles that people were experiencing,
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  Speaker 1: there was this general feeling of unrest, you know, discomfort,
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  Speaker 1: economic uncertainty, and so with all of that on their mind,
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  Speaker 1: I really don't think the Benjamin Moore team is going
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  Speaker 1: to go this year with a bright or bold or
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  Speaker 1: insanely in your face color like they did a couple
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  Speaker 1: of years ago with raspberry blush. You know, I think
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  Speaker 1: that's just too happy of a color for where we're
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  Speaker 1: at right now. It's too happy, you know, I guess,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe too vibrant. It's too much, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we don't need more energy right now, even if it's
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  Speaker 1: happy energy. Instead, they're going to go with a calming color.
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  Speaker 1: That's my call here, and there are a lot of
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  Speaker 1: different calming colors to go with, but I think, you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's nothing more calming than nature. So I think it's
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  Speaker 1: going to be a natural color, a nature color. You know.
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  Speaker 1: It could be a calm, neutral tone, a tan, a beige,
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  Speaker 1: it could be you know, kind of a butter yellow
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  Speaker 1: color like sunlight on a spring morning, you know that
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  Speaker 1: kind of thing. It could be a sky blue color,
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  Speaker 1: you know, all of those, but I don't think so.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's nothing that says nature more than a green. Now,
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  Speaker 1: a few years back, we had October mist, and that's
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  Speaker 1: the one thing that's making me hesitate on this. They
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  Speaker 1: already picked a green, you know, just a few years ago,
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  Speaker 1: and that was their color of the year. But that
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  Speaker 1: one October Mist was a grayish green. It was cooler,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a cooler green than what. I'm not cooler like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: fawn's kind of cool. It was cooler in temperature than
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  Speaker 1: the green that I'm thinking that that they're going to
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  Speaker 1: choose this year. I think this time they're going to
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  Speaker 1: go with a green that has yellow undertones, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a warmer green. And so Dune the done their Repcholite
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  Speaker 1: Home Improvement Show prediction for Color of the Year is
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  Speaker 1: Benjamin Moore's Fernwood Green number twenty one forty five dash
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  Speaker 1: forty A fernwood green. It's a warm green, you know,
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  Speaker 1: look it up. It's going to brighten any space up.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to cheer up a room without becoming overpowering.
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  Speaker 1: It's flexible, you know, it's going to work in brighter rooms,
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna work in darker rooms just fine. It'd be
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  Speaker 1: great in a kitchen, it'd be great for a bedroom
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  Speaker 1: or an office. It would work well. It'd work well
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  Speaker 1: in a north facing exposure because of the warmth that
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  Speaker 1: it brings to the space. Fernwood green. It's a calming tone.
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  Speaker 1: It's a natural tone, and I think it's where Benjamin
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  Speaker 1: Moore is gonna go when they reveal their Color of
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  Speaker 1: the Year for twenty twenty five. That's my prediction. That's
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  Speaker 1: my call, and I guess we'll all find out on
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  Speaker 1: October sixteen. All right, that's all the time we've got.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna have to wrap this one up. I do
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  Speaker 1: want to remind everybody if you're interested in festival equipment,
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  Speaker 1: Festual Sanders, just all the different equipment festival makes. We
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  Speaker 1: have a demo day going at our Byron's side your
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  Speaker 1: location on October eight, So ten to two on October eight,
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  Speaker 1: Festival Demo Day. If you're interested, you can get more
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  Speaker 1: info at Repcoli dot com. All Right, whatever you do today,
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  Speaker 1: make sure paints a part of it. Have a great weekend, everybody,
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  Speaker 1: and I'll see you next week. I'm Dan Hanson. Thanks
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  Speaker 1: for listening.