Latest / Financial Survival Network / Fed Delays, Oil Surges, Metals React - Patrick Mueller #6380
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- 0:00Speaker 1: The feder has really been slow rolling rates for a
- 0:02Speaker 1: very long period of time and kind of pushing things
- 0:05Speaker 1: off as long as they possibly can. So I expected
- 0:08Speaker 1: Powell it said late last year that he didn't think
- 0:11Speaker 1: that he were cut rates but one more time this
- 0:14Speaker 1: year and at the earliest I thought it would probably happen.
- 0:17Speaker 1: It would get pushed into the fall time. So that's
- 0:21Speaker 1: looked like where that's heading and what this recent oil
- 0:24Speaker 1: price is going up. I mean, they might not do
- 0:26Speaker 1: anything at all.
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- 0:54Speaker 3: Welcome you are listening to and watching the Financial Survival Network.
- 0:59Speaker 3: I'm your ghost Carrie Let's with us today. Financial expert
- 1:03Speaker 3: Patrick Mueller been on the show before. Very insightful guest
- 1:09Speaker 3: who definitely gets it. Patrick, no go on the FED cut.
- 1:14Speaker 3: The markets are not appreciating this, are they.
- 1:17Speaker 1: Not at all? And it's not I mean to me,
- 1:20Speaker 1: it was to be expected because the FED has really
- 1:22Speaker 1: been slow rolling rates for a very long period of
- 1:25Speaker 1: time and kind of pushing things off as long as
- 1:27Speaker 1: they possibly can. So I expected Powell, it said late
- 1:32Speaker 1: last year that he didn't think that he would cut
- 1:34Speaker 1: rates but one more time this year, and at the
- 1:37Speaker 1: earliest I thought it would probably happen. It would get
- 1:39Speaker 1: pushed into the fall time, and so that's looked like
- 1:43Speaker 1: where that's heading and what this recent oil price is
- 1:46Speaker 1: going up. I mean, they might not do anything at all.
- 1:48Speaker 1: I mean it could end up being the opposite, depending
- 1:51Speaker 1: on how long this escalation happens in Iran.
- 1:55Speaker 3: So let's talk about that. Because the market hasn't gone
- 1:59Speaker 3: crazy over it. We've actually seen gold and silver decline.
- 2:03Speaker 3: The safe havens, traditional safe havens appear to be behaving counterintuitively.
- 2:11Speaker 3: What's your take on that. Why is that happening?
- 2:14Speaker 1: I think it was just time for gold and silver.
- 2:16Speaker 1: I mean, it's been on such a run up here
- 2:19Speaker 1: for such a long period of time now, and I
- 2:23Speaker 1: think we're just seeing just a normal pullback. I think
- 2:26Speaker 1: you're going to start seeing it the price to start
- 2:29Speaker 1: moving back up here with all the uncertainty that's happening
- 2:32Speaker 1: right now in the markets, what's happening around the world
- 2:34Speaker 1: with Iran and Venezuela and China and Russia. And as
- 2:39Speaker 1: we start seeing more of this uncertainty and AND's some clarity,
- 2:43Speaker 1: I don't see it. I don't see that trajectory changing.
- 2:46Speaker 1: I think it's going to continue to be that safe.
- 2:48Speaker 1: And especially silver. There's so much of a demand for silver,
- 2:51Speaker 1: especially more so than gold longer term with all of
- 2:56Speaker 1: the electronic vehicles and solar and all that. There's just
- 2:59Speaker 1: such a huge demand for that right now.
- 3:01Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. And it's the industrial demand for silver
- 3:06Speaker 3: really has been increasing for at least past fifty sixty years,
- 3:10Speaker 3: but nobody knew it because there was enough reserves for
- 3:14Speaker 3: a while, there was scrap from photography and all those things.
- 3:19Speaker 3: But you know, back in nineteen sixty, silver is sold
- 3:23Speaker 3: for eighty ninety dollars an ounce, and now even with
- 3:29Speaker 3: the hit that it's taken, it's as seventy something. So
- 3:32Speaker 3: it's far exceeded even the most pessimistic estimates of inflation
- 3:38Speaker 3: during that period, hasn't it.
- 3:40Speaker 1: Absolutely? And I don't think it's going to show any
- 3:43Speaker 1: signs of slowing down here in the future, especially as
- 3:46Speaker 1: we're going to see more rise and costs from the
- 3:50Speaker 1: price of oil basically doubling right over the last month.
- 3:53Speaker 1: We're going to start seeing that bleeding into everything else
- 3:56Speaker 1: that we buy. And it's going to take a little
- 3:58Speaker 1: while before it starts hitting the more so at the
- 4:02Speaker 1: gas bumps, and and you know, as that starts happening,
- 4:05Speaker 1: I think we're going to start seeing more and more money,
- 4:08Speaker 1: you know, flying into those those safe havens as our
- 4:10Speaker 1: dollars been weakening and and as things keep escalating.
- 4:15Speaker 3: Well, I know I really shouldn't ask you this question,
- 4:18Speaker 3: but I'm going to ask it anyway.
- 4:20Speaker 1: Do it.
- 4:21Speaker 3: Just buckle your seat belt. The war, okay, I don't
- 4:26Speaker 3: want to talk about who's winning or losing. I mean,
- 4:29Speaker 3: in absolute terms, the US is winning. But every time
- 4:33Speaker 3: the theocracy, every day they hold on for another day,
- 4:36Speaker 3: that's a victory for them. How much longer they could
- 4:39Speaker 3: do it? None of us are really in a position
- 4:41Speaker 3: to say. But what we can judge is its impact
- 4:46Speaker 3: upon the markets, how that's affecting the stock market, how
- 4:50Speaker 3: it's affecting inflation in the United States. That we can
- 4:55Speaker 3: talk about, can't we absolutely?
- 4:57Speaker 1: And what with what's happening in Iran, and you know,
- 5:01Speaker 1: really you know started and you have these strategic moves
- 5:04Speaker 1: that have been happening with Venezuela and you know, cutting
- 5:07Speaker 1: off China and Russia from these different sources in Cuba,
- 5:11Speaker 1: and then now it's Iran, and so it's really more
- 5:14Speaker 1: of a play. Not not necessarily that things Didney display
- 5:18Speaker 1: for nuclear reasons with Iran, but it was more of
- 5:21Speaker 1: a long term play I think with those countries than anything. So, uh,
- 5:27Speaker 1: you know how long this is going to continue. I mean,
- 5:29Speaker 1: it's definitely work. Definitely, with the price of oil doubling
- 5:32Speaker 1: over the last month, we're going to start seeing that, uh,
- 5:35Speaker 1: with everything moving forward with with with inflation. But who
- 5:40Speaker 1: knows how long it's going to take for that to
- 5:41Speaker 1: cool down and for the waterways to completely open up there,
- 5:46Speaker 1: for for that to escalate. I mean it's like, uh there,
- 5:49Speaker 1: you know, they'd be getting, you know, really beat up
- 5:52Speaker 1: right now and just not wanting to surrender and who
- 5:58Speaker 1: and who now, who knows how long that's gonna keep on.
- 6:02Speaker 3: Well, I don't think it could keep on indefinitely because
- 6:04Speaker 3: I think at some point the proxies smell blood and
- 6:09Speaker 3: they go in, whether it's the Kurds, the Azerbaijani's or
- 6:13Speaker 3: Azari's as I just found out they're called recently, always
- 6:16Speaker 3: called them Azerbaijanis. But you know, at some point it's
- 6:20Speaker 3: going to end, but it could go on longer than
- 6:23Speaker 3: anybody is anticipating. You know, it's amazing what has happened
- 6:29Speaker 3: in Trump's second term. The first thing he did was
- 6:32Speaker 3: take back the Panama Canal, and he did it. He
- 6:35Speaker 3: said he was going to do it, sent Marco Rubio there.
- 6:39Speaker 3: Luckily Marco still remembers his Spanish. Within a day or two,
- 6:44Speaker 3: Panama said they were taking back the canal. On February
- 6:47Speaker 3: twenty third, they ejected the Chinese company C. K. Hutchinson
- 6:53Speaker 3: used to be called Hutchinson Wampoo, which I thought was
- 6:55Speaker 3: a better name. And then shortly thereafter it shortly before Maduro,
- 7:03Speaker 3: He's gone, you know, at yos Amigo, and all of
- 7:08Speaker 3: a sudden, Venezuela is like marching to the beat of
- 7:11Speaker 3: a different drum, mainly Trump's drum. And you know, I
- 7:15Speaker 3: knew the moment that he said he's taken back the
- 7:18Speaker 3: Panama Canal, that Venezuela was on the list, and that
- 7:23Speaker 3: Cuba was the ultimate goal, because look fifty nine, so
- 7:28Speaker 3: we're looking at nearly seventy years, sixty seven years communists
- 7:33Speaker 3: have been in charge of Cuba. Any president that changes
- 7:37Speaker 3: that course of history goes down in history. I did
- 7:42Speaker 3: have a reason I was going to ask this question,
- 7:44Speaker 3: but you know, lessons of the past. One of the
- 7:49Speaker 3: main reasons Japan attacked the United States in World War
- 7:55Speaker 3: Two was because we embargoed everything, especially oil, so they
- 8:00Speaker 3: had no access to energy. Are we doing the same
- 8:04Speaker 3: mistake with China? Yeah, they can still get oil. They
- 8:08Speaker 3: still produce a little, there's some nearby producers, but a
- 8:11Speaker 3: large chunk of their oil comes from Russia and from Iran.
- 8:17Speaker 3: So what are your thoughts there.
- 8:20Speaker 1: I think he's definitely pushing the boundaries on that one.
- 8:24Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it's got to be you know, hurting China.
- 8:27Speaker 1: You know they had were shutting down or you're backing
- 8:31Speaker 1: off of a lot of their refineries and China, and
- 8:35Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a different day in time, you
- 8:38Speaker 1: know that than it was back then. I mean, there's
- 8:40Speaker 1: a lot that that's changed, but there's a lot that's
- 8:42Speaker 1: that's really the same. At this point, it's like, how
- 8:45Speaker 1: much are they You know, Trump's really good at playing
- 8:48Speaker 1: the card of how big we are and how much
- 8:50Speaker 1: power we really have around the world and just how
- 8:55Speaker 1: dominant that is. And I think that's exactly what he's
- 8:57Speaker 1: showing right now. He's like, oh, yeah, well we're going
- 9:00Speaker 1: to start, you know, moving into Venezuela, right, took out
- 9:03Speaker 1: Maduro Cuba. I mean, he's really hitting on a lot
- 9:06Speaker 1: of these things that no administration has done. Everybody's wanted
- 9:10Speaker 1: to stay away from, probably because they were profiting from
- 9:13Speaker 1: a lot of the stuff that's been happening, as most
- 9:16Speaker 1: politicians typically do. So I think a lot of these
- 9:21Speaker 1: these huge countries are taking a big hit. It's just
- 9:24Speaker 1: a matter of how far he can he can push
- 9:27Speaker 1: these countries before they really start pushing back.
- 9:30Speaker 3: Yeah. You know, I was never one to believe that
- 9:33Speaker 3: he was a dictator, fascist or whatever, but he surely
- 9:37Speaker 3: seems to be an imperialist.
- 9:39Speaker 1: Yeah. And most of the things that have happened, whether
- 9:42Speaker 1: it was you know, going in and you know, to
- 9:44Speaker 1: the cartels in Mexico, whether it was the Panama Canal, Venezuela,
- 9:49Speaker 1: I mean, a lot of these moves have been very surgical,
- 9:53Speaker 1: not wanting things to be long and drawn out, and
- 9:55Speaker 1: so hopefully that's the same thing happening with Iran. Now
- 9:59Speaker 1: hopefully it's not going to be long and drawn out.
- 10:01Speaker 1: It's just a matter of how how long is that
- 10:04Speaker 1: going to take? But I wouldn't think that it would
- 10:07Speaker 1: take too long for about to kind of turn around.
- 10:11Speaker 1: But who knows.
- 10:12Speaker 3: War is there, you know, like Mike Tyson said, everybody
- 10:18Speaker 3: has a plan until they get hit in the head. Right,
- 10:21Speaker 3: that's right, So we get hit in the head there,
- 10:24Speaker 3: But you know it, war's dirty business and all that.
- 10:28Speaker 3: In the long run, they can't possibly prevail. This is
- 10:31Speaker 3: not like the North Vietnamese, right, you know, in the
- 10:36Speaker 3: Viet Kong and well in viet in the Vietnam War.
- 10:40Speaker 3: Obviously it's different than that. So when we have this
- 10:44Speaker 3: conversation next year, where do you see things shaking out?
- 10:49Speaker 1: Well, I think I think what's going to end up
- 10:51Speaker 1: happening is at a certain point a Ran is going
- 10:53Speaker 1: to be back and down. The prices of oil is
- 10:55Speaker 1: going to come back around domatically once once the waterways
- 10:59Speaker 1: open up. I think it's great for the Arabian people
- 11:02Speaker 1: right to you know, to to be able to have
- 11:05Speaker 1: more freedom. Hopefully with whatever gets into power there. There's
- 11:10Speaker 1: you know, just been so much repression that's been happening
- 11:12Speaker 1: in that country. It would be nice to see people
- 11:14Speaker 1: to be lived freely again as they once did. So
- 11:18Speaker 1: that would be nice to see, right from from that perspective,
- 11:21Speaker 1: But I don't anticipate this going on in extremely long
- 11:23Speaker 1: period of time. Those waterways are going to open up.
- 11:26Speaker 1: They're going to get pressure from you know, other countries
- 11:30Speaker 1: like you were, like you were just bringing up there.
- 11:32Speaker 1: You know, Iran's going to get pressures to to open
- 11:34Speaker 1: up those waterways. And then you know, Trump wanting to
- 11:38Speaker 1: back out of NATO right as you're going to start
- 11:41Speaker 1: pushing a lot of those other countries to act and
- 11:43Speaker 1: start doing something. So they're you know, they're are going
- 11:47Speaker 1: to get kicked off of that gravy train.
- 11:49Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, all right, Patrick, tell us where do we
- 11:52Speaker 3: find you, how do we connect with you on the web,
- 11:55Speaker 3: and what you can do for us now?
- 11:57Speaker 1: Yeah, give us a hit us up on belladvisors dot
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- 12:28Speaker 1: Thanks Kerry. Great to be with you.
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