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Week 14 News & Updates + Would You Rather | Fantasy Hockey Podcast · Banger Management - Fantasy Hockey Podcast

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Barbara Bound Bound Banger Management Fantasy Hockey
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podcast. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
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Things are a little different today.
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Well people think I'm gay I cause I was gone for a few weeks
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and you just like push me. Whoa, that's an AI reaction.
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If I show them your hands, that's all they know.
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Fingers. Right.
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OK, welcome in one and all the Bangor management, the Fantasy
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Hockey Podcast with Jake, Josh and Kevin.
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We're recording in person today. There's this belief.
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Wait, no, this way above my head for all you Ted Lasso fans out
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there. And a wonderful Christmas tree.
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So yeah, fun. I'm taking down next weekend.
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Not at all, but I'm glad. I'm glad the viewers got to see
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it before. I've had my Christmas tree up
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last week, kept up until April, remember?
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That yeah, yeah, I remember. That I used to hop on Zoom
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meetings at work and people be like, it would be like the prop,
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like everybody like look at Kevin's Christmas tree.
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And then now I guess I'm not gonna be able to do that
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anymore. Is always the season.
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Today is our Week 14 news and updates episode.
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Follow us on Spotify, Apple Podcast, wherever you get your
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podcasts. We are there.
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What did I do? No, that, that, that we just
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have to look at the camera like. Yeah, I'm still not entirely
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sure what to look, so I'll just we'll make the best of it and
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see what happens. Describe on YouTube.
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I love that we can say that. And this is our first in person
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recording session together. It's not going to be a regular
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thing because as you know from the last episode, Josh used to
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live here and he moved away. Had to.
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Run. If they give people the rundown,
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how that happened, a little history lesson.
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What, Josh moving away. Yeah.
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And then us banging. OK.
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Before that, you can see the link to all of our socialism in
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the podcast description as well. OK?
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Not all the socials. What is going on?
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Ohe and we're we're wearing, we're wearing merch now.
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Yeah, Yeah. So that's pretty groovy.
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I don't know if you can see from the camera, but this says Bangor
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management here, yes. Fantasy hockey podcast in
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cursive below it was an. Accident.
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We definitely chose that font on purpose.
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I want to show people were sophisticated and yeah.
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I think that speaks for itself when we say things like preface.
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Exactly. There you go.
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So shall we dive into our Week 14 news updates?
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Or we can dive into their history lesson.
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Fine, history lesson first. Of how I moved.
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Away. Yeah.
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I mean, listen people, we have a lot of new, new listeners,
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followers that don't know that you used to sleep in and say
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better as Jake and I. Use the left together 1 red.
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It was a twin, Yeah. I'll let you guys do the math on
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that one. Now we were all going through
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all together and then we, me and my wife and baby decided really
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the baby decided you wanted to live in the States and so he
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moved down South. He was tired of the snow and
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broke the band up. But I'm back now for today.
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So. Yeah, yeah, and yeah.
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Wasn't that riveting of a story? And now Josh is here in person
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and we get to record altogether like a happy family.
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Exactly. Yeah.
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So when does the banging happen? When we talk about the bangers
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on our news and News and updates episode.
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Alright, talking about bangers. Seth Jones is week to week with
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an upper body injury. Aaron Ekblad will take a spot on
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power play 1. Super depressing for us Jones
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owners, but they're saying they're hoping he's back before
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the Olympic break. So Max 4 weeks it seems like.
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Still a big loss, but he'll still be there for our fantasy
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playoffs, so not too worried there.
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I do want to put it into a universe that I feel like
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there's a world with Patrick coming back to the run 5
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forwards on the power play. So like if you're scrambling for
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Eggplant on waivers, I think it's definitely a good pickup
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right now. But keep in mind that, you know,
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with contract coming back, I would not be surprised if they
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just keep it how it is with like Verhey, your Rodriguez as the
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5th man there and catch up taking the defenseman spot.
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And yeah, that means don't make like irrelevant once again.
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But for now, I definitely think it's a good like handcuff ad.
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Yeah, for sure. Yeah, like Speaking of banging,
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his past two games have been ridiculous since, yeah, since
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Jones got hurt. Five shots, five hits and four
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blocks. Two games.
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Ago you could sell him on that production.
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I would do that because that is notorious for not doing any of
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that, yeah. Yeah.
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And now he has the opportunity and I totally agree with the
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five fours is very possible. Yeah, I'm not.
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I'm not saying it's a guarantee. I'm just saying like it's in the
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realm of possibilities. Yeah, higher likelihood than
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most other situations. Yeah.
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But I'm not too worried as the Jones owner, Like when Jones
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comes back he should be properly when he's Yeah alright.
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Jack Eichel returns from injury and bumped Noah Hanifin off
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power. Play one as expected.
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I hope if anyone had Hannafin they managed to flip him for
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literally anything. Anyone worth being on your
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roster would have been a win. So.
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But now he's back to essentially being a drop.
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I think, I mean, we saw some people in the discord say that
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they were like sending offers with Hanafin in it.
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And I'm just like, I don't he's like worth nothing when he's not
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on power Play 1. So I think it's just a thing you
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gotta drop him. But for the moment, Jackal back
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and he's like the first film caliber player for your fantasy
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team. So finally he's back.
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I felt like he was sick, then hurt, then it was all sickness
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and it was actually, no, he's actually hurt so.
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Yeah. I wonder how does this affect
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kind of everyone with the line? How does it affect like Marner
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Stone? I mean, did you see what they
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did last game? Did they do last?
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They they stacked the top 6, so they put all their guys out of
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three lines, then the two lines. Crazy.
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What a concept I. Know what are the odds?
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Something that so hopefully that sticks, that would make
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everybody on vegans a lot more valuable.
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Josh, you're sort of American now.
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Can you explain why the United States picked Noah Hanafin over
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Lane Hudson? I mean, what about Adam Fox?
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Yeah, that's. Saying what about Jason
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Robertson? Yeah, even you have, you know,
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like, I mean, I'd rather have Jason Robertson playing defence
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than Noah Hanafin. We have to remember that these
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people play actual like ice hockey and not fantasy hockey.
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So I feel like that's not, I feel kind of it's actually a
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good defence. Man OK obviously we want Jason
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playing defence but like Adam Fox obviously Robertson
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literally the highest scoring American over the past like 4
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years. It makes no sense.
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Who they take instead of Robertson?
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Who was the most glaring bad one?
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Our take Robertson probably over Brock Nelson.
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Yeah, yeah. They want the centre.
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Rangers guys checking Miller. Yeah, not making it was a big
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disappointment, I think because he's a big face off one guy.
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Too right? Yeah, true.
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But I'm saying, like JT, yeah, first of all, I mean, he's gonna
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be like, what? Sucks.
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I don't know how he made the Olympics.
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Stuff because you got to play politics with the with lineups
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as well. Like we all play, you know,
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hockey or any organized sports when we younger, like always
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politics involved. Like that's why Robertson gets
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left off. Sure be much crazy.
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Is that like the like like like Alvin Keller did?
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Sullivan and Quinn were both like the coach and you know,
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this is GM for the Rangers. They fought really hard to bring
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Miller and Trocheck, but then they left Fox at home and he's
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like, if you were able to get some bumps from your team once
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the Olympics, you should have been able to get your actual
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start and feeling. Maybe it was one of those things
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that like, OK, like we'll take in Miller, but we can't take
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Fox. Like you make the decision type
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of thing and then it shows to go with the forwards.
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I'm really happy he made the team.
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So I think he's very valuable for what they need.
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Yeah. I think he's the type of guy
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that like, in a situation like this where he can play like the
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bottom 6 and like, be really important for like the PK and
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everything. But Miller, I feel like he does
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not deserve to be there right now.
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He's missing it on pure pedigree.
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Like Biddington made the Team Canada roster, pretty much.
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I don't have bindings in the Miller and I know.
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That's crazy. I mean actually.
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Bennington playing forward. Either.
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Like it's not to say that that Canada didn't make any errors as
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well, yeah. Error for us was Bennett,
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Bennett and over Sorrelli like surely making the team was big
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asterisk there because I mean John Cooper is a coach so and
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he's a good bottom six guy to have.
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It should have been chiefly or yeah, yeah, a lot of guys could
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have. The Anyways, well dive into more
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Olympic stuff later. Let's keep going.
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We last left on the Olympics. Do you guys read into Jack is
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calling Bill Guerin, Billy like 12 times on the phone?
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Everybody's being like he's definitely going to Minnesota
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after this. I mean, Luke is definitely going
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to Minnesota. Do you seem getting booed by his
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own? Team that's kind of sad, to be
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honest, yeah. He looks like he's about to cry
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and like the post post media thing.
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And we saw how NHL fans react to player crying when Dobish did
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it, so you think he didn't but. I thought he should have said it
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wanted to talk like the press and everything after that and.
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I think Alan did too. Like they're all like, what are
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you guys doing their number one deal?
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Yeah, yeah. Anyways, Dougie Hamilton season
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maybe, but anyways, never Doug Hamilton this season.
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But let's let's move on. So Elias Sorokin was activated
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from IR and will retake the starter drop from David Riddick.
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It's been a fun run for for Riddick.
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He actually did surprisingly well for what we would be
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expecting him to do. But Sorokin's back Islanders are
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top three in their division. Sorokin the balls in the league
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for now it should be fine. Maybe could be a good cell high
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at some point yeah. Speaking of Olympics from
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earlier, Adam Fox returned from injury pumped every cop power
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play one No yeah. So it was 5 forwards.
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They were swapping around who those forwards were.
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Then Moro gets a game then gave recover plays him for a game.
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Gavrilov gets a Parkway goal and then Fox comes back and moves
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them off. So it makes sense, obviously
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makes sense. I just think that like they
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should have gone with Gabriel from the start.
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It clearly seems like he was the best fit while Adam Fox.
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Had a good game here and there too though, yeah.
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But I think it was just too like shaky defensively.
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Yeah, he's still young too, right?
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So. So anyways, Fox is back.
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Everyone who has Fox can rejoice like like heaven's known to do.
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Yes, laugh out a not a relevant game recently.
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Yeah, against me. Follow.
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Me like his best game of the season had to be like in Week
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13, playing as my fantasy team. Well, you know how it works.
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I'm playing that guy two weeks after you, so now I can expect
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the other. Was gonna get 0 points until he
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plays, you get another another 3.
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Point exactly. But yeah, Fox training just
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makes everyone else on that team a lot better, obviously,
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especially the power play. Right now it seems like Laugh is
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the spot over Cooley, but I don't think it really matters.
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One JT comes back, neither of them is getting it.
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So good for Trocheck owners. Looks like he's kind of cemented
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his spot there just by how bad the other options have been.
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Yes, good news for Jake's team, Shane Gostisbehere returned from
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injury and bumped Alexander Nikitin from power play 1.
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JK does no longer have to be sad that he traded for glasses and
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then dropped in acquisition because everything is right with
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the world again. But Neisha didn't get scratched,
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Rod said. Amazing quote which just sums up
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why I hate having bought for players.
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And he said don't look into the lines, they don't matter.
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Read into anything I put on the ice.
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Yeah, there's makes no sense. Like it just it's like I of also
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avoided players from their players from the Hurricanes in
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the past and now I have like 5 of them, which is actually kind
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of it gets working in a way. Like Blake has his games here
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and there and Jarvis was great before the injury, Nikishin
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dropped him. Now I have glasses, beer and
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honestly, like it's Alan Walker kind of, but it's.
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You do actually. I do have Walker, I know, but
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it's kind of it's like everyday I'm like.
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Things around. Yeah, if you drop them, you
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can't do what you did last time, right?
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He's you stand on, but honestly it's it's just like doesn't make
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any sense. That being said, they are
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scoring a lot this year and Gossipy has been really, really
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nice to have. Honestly, like you sold high on
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him, fair to me and I kind of get it.
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But like going back in time like did did you think that this was
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gonna happen, that he was gonna stay at a point per game pace?
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No, I mean he hasn't said a point per game pace.
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It's close. I mean, he's been really good,
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been regressing slowly. Not stay this good this long.
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I still think he's not gonna stay this good.
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But we're deep enough in the season that if you have them on
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your roster, you're not desperate to get him off like I
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was. Like you do have to admit he
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just doing well. This year, yeah, absolutely.
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I do think that future years his power Play 1 lock is going to be
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less of a lock yeah patient has a small shot in future years um,
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so but this is this is a good year to have him Yep anyways,
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let's keep going. Corella melka returned from
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injury and took back the starting role from VTech
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banachek. Not much to say there.
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We all expected that. It was surprisingly missed that
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many games, but he's back now and good to go.
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I think I was just gonna say, yeah, I feel like it's a team
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that you keep an eye on for a second-half of the season
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because we expect big things. They started really hot, then
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you got like abysmal and now I think they're starting to kind
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of level out the level that we expect from them so.
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Absolutely. I mean, I'm just, I'm still,
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it's like I'm just still expecting them to break out and
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pop off. But The thing is you I wanted to
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break down that I want to trade them because I don't want them
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for that two weeks in the. Championship.
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Exactly. OK Speaking of goalies, Alex
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Lyon is out with a lower body injury UPL taking the starting
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job while he's out seems like lions day-to-day so he could be
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back in the next week or two. But Buffalo 10 game-winning
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streak came to an end. But are they gonna bounce?
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Back threes in the Columbus Blue Jackets.
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Seriously. But are they gonna bounce back?
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Another big streaker? Is this like, you know, that
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there's been I think only like 2 teams in the past like 1520
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years or something that like had a 10 game-winning streak and
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didn't make the playoffs. And I think one, if not both of
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them were Buffalo. So they've done this before or
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they've gone on the crazy here and you're like, there's no way
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they don't make it. And then they just become
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completely terrible. So I still think they're better
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this year, but that happens every year.
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Right. Lion is owned and like way less
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leagues than UPL and I understand because of the injury
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it's it's gone down. That being said, like it's still
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in the comparable level he's won.
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He won seven of those 10. Games I prefer Lion for sure.
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Yeah. I was playing at this level,
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then he's going to keep the job and he just got lit up against
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Columbus. But besides, before that, he was
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actually pretty. Solid 2 good games, three good
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games, but the other like, and even after one of his amazing
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games, I still went back to Lion and kind of did a tandem
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situation. So it's interesting because Line
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was the one that really kind of lit the fire under the behind
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when lions back. Do you think it's the tandem
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situation? Do you wanna own any of these
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guys like? I mean firstly like is one of
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them getting traded? I think one of them is for
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getting traded. Colton Ellis, the one who's the
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deadline like I mean, the fact is the GM said he said this
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three goalie situation cannot stand, you know, so he put it,
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he said he essentially said we're trading one of our
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goalies. And then it's like you said, I
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don't know how much value if any Colton Ellis has on the trade
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market. He was a waiver claim.
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So if they're training goal, he doesn't have any value.
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It's gonna be one of these two other guys though, so I don't
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know what's gonna happen with that.
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But going forward I think it's gonna be probably more of a
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tandem. Yeah I think when line was
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getting the share, the Lion share the starts PPL was injured
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and UPL getting all the starts is 1 lines injured.
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I don't think they've actually gone with one goalie when both
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have been healthy. So yeah, I wouldn't be surprised
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to see a tandem, but then if one plays a lot better than the
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other, also would be surprised for them to to go with that one.
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Do you guys want to see a crazy start?
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I would love to see a crazy stat.
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How many points do you think separate the top team in the
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East from the bottom team? Just today or the?
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Whole conference, it's 10. Points E Yeah, 10 points.
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Because I know the Atlantic is super tired.
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Do you know how many points separated the top team in the
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West from the bottom team in the?
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West, I mean Colorado do this, it's actually 35 points.
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No. Yes, it is.
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Actually, 59 versus 34, yeah. But then second-half team is
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Dallas, which is still 20 points.
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Yeah, no, it's crazy. I think you wanna look at
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another interesting thing in the standings.
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Look at how bad the entire Pacific Division is.
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Like they're top team is Vegas. Vegas is 26 and two in their
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last 10 games. Yeah, that's like.
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Vegas has lost five in a row. That's another top team in the
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division that's. For the bottom or bottom and the
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Atlantic with 45 points and then pull, the Knights are top with
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46. Yeah, it's not.
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Everybody in the Pacific has a negative goal differential.
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There's a really weird stuff going.
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Understanding these actually crazy.
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Does that mean that the Pacific is stronger or weaker than
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everybody? Else I think it's weaker.
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But also at the same time, it's like there's a lot of
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competition. Yeah, well, like that's kind of
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my strategy this year, goalies wise.
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I grabbed Kemper and Discord because I thought the Pacific
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was gonna be awful. Look, even I don't think there
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gonna be this bad. I thought they were some,
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really. Bad like top heavy and like
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everybody else. But like I figured, their
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division is so bad and that's why you play the most against so
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I'll take them and even if they're bad too, they're playing
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a lot of easy opponents. In the central, probably like
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the most like the top three are wild.
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Anyways, let's move on. And who?
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Was it to believe in the Minnesota Wild?
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They're still going down. It wasn't me, it was both of
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you, it just wasn't me. But I still blame you for that
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one. Anyways.
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Bo Horvat is out with a lower body injury, Callum Richie
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taking his spot on power play one.
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Honestly, the teams a lot less interesting offensively when
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Bohor vets out of it, so I'm not trying to pick up anyone on this
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power play one while he's out really well.
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When as of this podcast recording, I think he's gonna be
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back within the week. They said he was gonna miss one
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week for. Sure, I'm playing against him so
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he's guaranteed coming back this week.
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You heard of your? First hand steel.
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So you're not AI. OK, cool.
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Also, small addition to this point is that Schaefer's got
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like a cold. Yeah.
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So without both of them, it's a it's a disaster.
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And it's kind of unfortunate because now.
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So we can get it back. Yeah, the first game back.
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Yeah, exactly. Like community where Troy walks
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with the pizza keep showing up. Like I love community such
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showing up to practice and he's like, wait, where?
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With two good players on my team.
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I think the community episodes of like the what is it?
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Is it the the paintball episode? Like those are just like the
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classic best. I think the best kind of like
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theme of episodes in sitcom history.
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OK, Tom Wilson is day-to-day with a lower body injury.
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I'm not sure who's taking power play on yet while he's out.
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They haven't played. They haven't had practice yet.
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It's gonna be 1 of sort of McMichael or Carlson.
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Yeah, I'm not sure which one. I don't know what you guys are
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leaning. I'm leaning Michael, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, probably. Well, no love for Carlson on.
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I mean, no, Carlson would probably be the choice that I
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think they're going to start with because they did, they did
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make it work. We've just seen the opportunity
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for Carlson to be back on first unit when they did have an
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injury and they just kept chicken there and they put
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Carlton number 2. So I'm just using that as my
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sample size for. Well, either way, it seems like
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this is not a seems like it's not a serious injury, so.
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I'm not gonna ask you, Lympics. No.
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And I'm not scrambling to to pick up any of these guys if
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they're not already owned. Yeah.
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Speaking of the Caps, Alexie produces day-to-day with lower
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body injury. He wasn't on power play one but
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Jake is really bummed about it. Guys, he's so good.
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He is OK. You know what his last two weeks
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average are? 4 points.
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Like .87 or something. 1.8. 1.8. 1.8 last two weeks average for
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points. What the?
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Fidelity, we're good. Absolutely sell high points you
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have over the last two. Weeks.
19:35
That's neither here nor there. Like the fact that he could do
19:40
it being this tall over like this.
19:42
I'm not not as. Yeah.
19:44
But without the power play, it's super impressive to me.
19:47
You. Should make his height per 60 is
19:49
off the charts. Without Wilson, though, just
19:51
because, like, keeping on the theme in the caps, like he's
19:53
been so unbelievably good this year.
19:56
If you drop him in the first round, you're happy, which
19:58
nobody did. Wilson.
20:01
OK. Be happy in the first time.
20:06
This is actually been like absolutely insane.
20:09
So especially in leagues like telling Pimms.
20:12
Yeah, it's just, it's crazy how Dear was his first year.
20:15
We really popped off like points wise he's always been a him shot
20:18
hit, but like last year he kind of took off and it was like, is
20:21
that a flash in the pan? Is I thought.
20:22
It was, I thought it was appointing him.
20:24
I was like. Look, no, it was because I had
20:27
him. You did not know it was.
20:28
No. No.
20:33
What do you do? You know what?
20:35
OK, So what was known to us was not known to Kevin, but.
20:39
What was not known to you was also that, though the character
20:42
who. Knows yeah pretty much I was
20:46
avoiding him in the draft I thought he was going way too
20:48
high cause everyone was just expecting him to do the same
20:50
thing and they were wrong as he's doing even better so so
20:54
yeah sometimes it's worth it to take a risk but I mean I guess
20:56
the nice thing with risking it on a guy like that is that his
20:58
floor of like the pimp shots hit is so high that even if he like
21:01
completely blanks that point you're gonna be happy to have on
21:04
your team so it goes both ways do you think game at this point
21:09
I feel like I feel like yeah maybe .9 I feel.
21:11
I'll take it. I'll take the lower on a point
21:13
per game. I take I think .9.
21:15
Would you sell them? I mean, no, I don't wanna sell
21:17
them. Yeah, like just it's not about
21:18
the point is not what brings value, right?
21:20
It's just the points in addition.
21:21
He's literally like 85% like Brady, Chuck.
21:24
Pretty much, yeah. Yeah, his mother.
21:26
OK, Mackenzie Blackwood was placed on IR with a lower body
21:29
injury. This came out of nowhere.
21:31
Scott Wedgewood will get all the starts including back to backs
21:34
until while he's out. We saw that happen this past
21:36
weekend. They had back-to-back Saturday.
21:37
Sunday, Trent Miner got recalled from the NHL and everyone wants
21:42
to pick up Minor for. 1st Sunday, don't pick them up.
21:45
And then what happens? But what gets both games?
21:47
And The thing is that this happened multiple times this
21:49
year. Yeah.
21:51
So I mean, this just makes perfect sense because I'm going
21:53
up against Scotland would this week.
21:54
So makes sense this would happen and for Blackwood will get
21:58
healthy again when I go up against if you like few weeks.
22:01
Sorry about that. But but yeah, for now, which
22:03
would owners rejoice? I mean, I hope no one dropped
22:05
him at this point. It's been a pretty solid tandem.
22:07
So that's gotta be Kevin's biggest regret of this year.
22:10
Absolutely. He picked him up first week.
22:12
He was only good to him for like a month.
22:15
And Kevin's like, you know what? You know that thing of like in
22:19
Toy Story or like the house redwoods like.
22:25
Well, fine, but I'm still gonna keep being great, yeah.
22:29
My team would be so much better if I had Scott Wedgewood on it
22:32
for free. He's yeah, he wouldn't.
22:34
Yeah, that's tough. Anyways, talking about the
22:36
Colorado Avalanche, this one's actually a pretty brutal Discog
22:39
is out with an upper body injury.
22:40
He had already been demoted from power play 1 before the injury.
22:43
But more in terms of just general, you know, suckiness
22:47
everyone wants to do well, that kind of story of rehabbing for
22:50
like 3 years and then coming back, it's unprecedented.
22:52
And he just seems like a really good guy.
22:54
So at least it's an upper body. At least it's not the same
22:57
injury he had before, which is nice.
22:58
So hopefully he can be back maybe for the Olympics.
23:01
I mean that would be really nice because he was named to the
23:03
Olympic team so it suck if he misses it.
23:05
But at this point I guess people are just hoping he's back at all
23:08
right? Anytime a guy like that gets
23:09
injured who's been out for so long.
23:11
So for the best. But again, this kind of ties
23:13
into the last couple of weeks where I've been saying you don't
23:16
want any of these avalanche guys.
23:18
Like none of them have a secure spot on power play 1.
23:20
So I hope everyone sold high when they had the chance.
23:22
If not, you stash him and if your is full, I don't feel bad
23:25
for dropping him. Yeah, it's somebody else, one
23:28
fewer person who I like a challenge as well.
23:30
But again, like as I mentioned in the cell on the chicken, even
23:33
having that power play spot is not like that coveted as much as
23:36
it should be. I know they scored three power
23:37
play goals in the past like 2 games, but it's just there's not
23:41
a good power play for some reason.
23:43
If it was just this year after like an amazing year last year,
23:46
I'd be like OK, they're gonna figure it out and they gonna
23:47
explode out of nowhere. But it just seems to be an issue
23:49
they have. And The thing is, they keep
23:51
winning without it. They don't seem to be such an
23:53
animal, so they're differential is insane and they just don't
23:57
score on the power play. Yeah, absolutely wild.
24:00
Power play for play with getting in my car.
24:03
And I wonder if, like, like, I know they do the blender, like
24:08
the line blender because it's not working.
24:10
But I wondered that also ties in with why it doesn't work.
24:12
Like, maybe just need to give them like, feel like here's like
24:15
an entire half a season, just these five guys, you know, like,
24:18
yeah, like, figure it out. Factors are so winning and like
24:21
on historic levels so why change up anything?
24:24
But. In my head is probably just like
24:26
they need certain roles on their power plant.
24:28
They don't have the personnel to have those, right?
24:30
Like, it just feels like you have a car and McKinnon.
24:32
But teams know that those are two most dangerous guys.
24:34
Yeah, they'll play the penalty kill too, just for those guys.
24:36
So when Nelson and choose, you know, like a not super
24:39
dangerous. I mean that's why I feel like
24:41
last game Nelson got 2 power play goals because he's not the
24:44
guy people are watching on that power play.
24:45
Maybe they just realized like McKenna and you save your you
24:48
know who your goals for like even strength and like be more
24:51
of a assist guy you. Know, I mean, still gonna be a
24:53
beast. But it's obviously, yeah, that's
24:54
surprising. But yeah, lastly, but not OK,
24:58
maybe a little leastly, John Klingberg was placed on IR with
25:00
a lower body entry. Dmitry Orlov takes his spot on
25:02
Power Play 1. I mean, we've seen Orloff have
25:05
it at earlier times. We've seen Klingberg have it.
25:07
It just seems like it's not that great of a spot, which is
25:09
surprising with how insane celebrity has been this year.
25:11
But even like Celebrity, like his points over the past month
25:13
are like 1.5 power plants are almost at 0.
25:16
So it's kind of crazy to have a player.
25:19
I mean, this is the same thing we just talked about the apps,
25:21
right? Obviously to a smaller scale.
25:22
It's not McKinnon and the surrounding cast nowhere near as
25:25
good as having them for something like that.
25:26
But it's the same thing of like you have a player performing at
25:28
such a high level at even strength and then just not doing
25:31
much at power play. So I'm not rushing to pick up
25:34
Orlov. He's usually been solid at
25:35
bangers though. So if you wanna bangers
25:37
defenseman who has the upside of being properly and with an elite
25:40
onesie, then you could definitely do.
25:42
Hers. Yep.
25:43
I'm just looking at clean game log right now because of that.
25:46
One time Josh Reddick convinced me that claim.
25:48
Will I feel like a sick player? The bottom zeros and then like 5
25:53
games of like massive production then a bunch of zeros after
25:55
that. Yeah, I picked them up during
25:57
the five games and then I tried to sell them to everyone in the
25:59
league and no one would take him and then I dropped them.
26:01
No harm done. That's how we just everyone.
26:04
Yeah. So I feel like most of the teams
26:06
that do 5 forwards are actually like on a power play.
26:09
One are veteran teams. The Sharks are super young, but
26:14
Orlov is not a power play 1 defenseman.
26:16
Yeah. So you know, is there any way?
26:19
For Dougie Hamilton. Yeah, Oh my God.
26:21
Is there never. Would happen.
26:22
It could have. Actually heard that he vetoed
26:24
the trade to the Sharks. Really.
26:25
I think they're not on his team list, but I wonder if like as
26:28
time goes on in the season and just everyone wants him gone,
26:31
that affects him at all. If he's like, Nah, what can you
26:35
say? Can China show uptake or love?
26:38
Spot on this. Power play, I mean, they have
26:39
that as a power play quarterback, that's the thing.
26:41
I don't think that's the issue for for like in my I mean.
26:44
Yes, you got the Blues. That's gonna be able to pass the
26:46
puck around. I think the bigger issue and the
26:48
reason, like you said, the teams that like are this young usually
26:50
don't do it is because you don't let a bunch of shorties and like
26:55
like you've seen it, like a lot of the teams, you know, they've
26:58
made kind of questionable choices.
26:59
I mean, LA right, They've had for the longest time what
27:01
wouldn't put Brent Clark on power play 1.
27:03
And the coach said something along the lines of ohe, like I
27:05
need to have, you know, a certain defenseman on each one
27:08
where that like someone defensive on each units that we
27:11
don't let in shorties of games. Like they're very conscious of
27:13
that. So having a 5 forward unit where
27:15
the oldest forward is like 20 years old, I don't think it's
27:18
gonna. Be for success.
27:21
Like, you know, Wenberg just got paid.
27:24
Yep. Yeah, yeah.
27:26
Was it 3 * 6? So yeah, I guess cause it's
27:29
super good looking. Yeah, I mean, he got that second
27:32
line to click so. Yeah, it's true.
27:34
OK, I'm gonna walk this in right?
27:35
Now you're allowed to mention he's good looking.
27:38
I think he was getting harassed on TikTok.
27:40
For being so good looking, yeah, sorry.
27:43
He's already. Wrong, Yeah.
27:47
Delete all his Weinberg find accounts.
27:49
That's that's crazy. I I.
27:50
Actually. Like I could see it you're.
27:53
Acting like him and like his family were getting passed by
27:55
like on TikTok. Yeah, that's being like way too
27:58
good looking or whatever. Oh, OK, never mind, he's ugly.
28:01
Thank you God I really hope I don't get harassed for being too
28:06
good looking. Guys.
28:14
Alright, Jake, no peeking. I don't know, you're probably
28:17
easier. If I'd be.
28:18
I know, yeah. Master Peaker over here, but for
28:23
all those new here, they would you rather segment is my baby.
28:26
Yeah. I pick 5, would you Rathers?
28:29
I go through one of every position, so left wing, right
28:31
wing, centre defenseman, goalie and I tried to put the
28:34
difference. So I tried to get Josh and Jake
28:36
to disagree on this. Would you rather and I weigh in
28:39
as the third party, third party informant to the vote, informing
28:48
my own? Would you have?
28:49
To inform you of my opinion. That's exactly what I meant, so
28:54
I'll ask. Let's get started.
28:55
Last a loss. My word of the podcast forever.
28:59
Like it would be at last right? In this scenario like it's.
29:02
All a lot. Last, it's like a last enough
29:04
lollygagging, you know? No.
29:08
But alright, let's, let's start with the left wing position,
29:12
Yeah, And neither, neither of you guys have peak.
29:14
Right, I literally have never peaked at any point in my life.
29:17
I never will. OK, I I believe Josh, but OK, so
29:21
let's start with the left wing position.
29:24
Would you rather the German giant Tim Stutzel Who or Kyle
29:30
Connor rest of season? I love that.
29:34
Yeah, that's a good one, right? That's a good one and I'm gonna
29:37
try and go off my head. I'm not gonna look at the stats
29:40
right now. I'm gonna off the Dome.
29:41
I'm actually gonna go with Stitzel.
29:43
Me too and I know that's that's probably why I guess may not be
29:47
that unpopular if Jean. He's been one of the hottest
29:49
players in trouble last month. Yeah, yeah.
29:51
I mean. In production, not in looks.
29:55
No, that's one bright. Yeah, German giant and dry side
29:59
eyes also super handsome. Isn't can I call dry saddle good
30:02
looking or is that against the? Rules.
30:03
You can't. Alright, OK, you can talk.
30:06
He hasn't been harassed. For being too.
30:09
Not yet, not yet, but now that you've got attention to it.
30:13
Anyway, yeah, I'm going. I'm going.
30:15
Still here. I feel like there's no reason
30:18
not to except for the shots. Shots.
30:20
That's like the one. Thing if you think the point
30:22
space is going to change. It may, but I mean they can just
30:26
be around like 1 to 1.15 point per game players, both of them,
30:29
but you're getting the hits with Stitzel and also I just autos
30:32
got a better playoff schedule and they're a better team.
30:35
This. Year, yeah, and the power play
30:36
is a big one. Ottawa has one of the best power
30:39
plays in the league. Winnipeg is just.
30:41
They had the best PowerPoint we lost here.
30:42
You know, they had a lot of tests last year and look where
30:45
they are now. You know, like, do I think
30:47
Winnipeg ends the season last place in the league?
30:49
I don't think so, yeah. Do I think they're making the
30:51
playoffs? No.
30:53
So I think there's brighter days ahead for Winnipeg, but not that
30:56
much brighter. I mean, I'm sure there's like a
30:58
bunch of. Blizzards there doing what the
31:00
Blues in last year were just like the last month and 1/2 is
31:02
just gonna they gonna tear It means futile but.
31:07
Yeah, that's the Blues have done that in the past, like when they
31:11
won the Stanley. Cup, that is.
31:12
That's their. Thing I feel like The Jets are
31:13
usually just a steady, really good team, and now that they
31:16
haven't been, it's bad. Yeah, but let me remind you
31:18
guys, last season Kyle Connor was .2 points better than Tim
31:22
Stutzel and edged them out by .06 so.
31:27
Even last year when Connor was unreal still.
31:30
Had Connor had an extra 1.3 shots and had 1.61 point five
31:37
hits more let's. Say.
31:38
Just sprinkling the face of two face off wings.
31:40
So no, I, I. Just feel so not like that at
31:43
all. So.
31:44
I just think that like that's Connors like ceiling, right?
31:46
What was last year even that I'm like I could see going like .2
31:50
is a lot of points for sure, but power play points and hits so
31:53
that the shots also for Connor. So last year I was still go
31:57
Connor, but this year with how much different everything been
32:00
going, I'm going to. I mean on the season the
32:02
averages are pretty much the same except studios like ceiling
32:05
went up like instead of he went up like .15 ish.
32:09
So yeah, it's just rest of season and I think I'm much more
32:12
favorable in terms of Ottawa than Winnipeg.
32:14
Yeah. Alright, so did not put the
32:17
difference on that one. That's OK.
32:19
Yeah, it was still good. Alright, this one was, I feel
32:23
like I feel really strongly about the first guy, so we'll
32:26
see what you guys think. Kevin the guy, the guy.
32:29
No, it's not. It's not the guy put him against
32:32
though. I feel like I had a better
32:34
player there before because I'm higher on the first guy and I
32:37
think I think for you guys, another been too high.
32:39
But would you rather rest of season right winger for the
32:44
Vegas Golden Knights? Mark Stone, OHE Adrian Kempe,
32:48
rest of season. OHP, that's a good one.
32:50
That is a good one. That's tough.
32:53
I'm pretty. I've been trying to buy him the
32:55
whole season. That's not gonna happen.
32:57
Yeah. Like that's that's crazy.
32:59
The turnaround. Kevin and I used to be the
33:01
co-founder something Mark Stone Hate Club and all of a sudden.
33:03
I hate him so much. One on my team.
33:07
Look, I mean, camp is a bit scary right now cause he's
33:12
probably too again, we talked about this on the streamer
33:14
episode power play there where daily faceoff has him as power
33:18
play one. But if you actually looking at
33:19
the ice time and you're looking at who's doing the power play
33:21
goals, it's the power play 2 union with Brian Clark.
33:25
So right now he's probably 2 and that's a that's a massive,
33:29
massive loss. You know, even though probably
33:30
wasn't producing and I'm a certified Mark Stone hater.
33:34
Look, if we're going to see Mark stones healthier season, I'm
33:36
taking Mark Stone and I know that that might be surprising
33:40
because of how much I dislike him, but like he's always been a
33:43
good points guy. Just that can't be healthy.
33:44
But. It seems like the terrorist
33:46
season. Yeah, yeah.
33:47
So it seems like this year it's like different players on the
33:50
biggest goal the next turn to beyond LTIR.
33:52
So don't get a year off and just actually play this year.
33:54
So we'll see what happens. If you tell me tomorrow that
33:57
he's on LTIR this season, I'd be like passing Mark Stone.
34:01
But no, I'm still taking Stone over campaign here.
34:04
I really, really wanna go camping, but I feel like you
34:08
just can't because stones just been so much better for points.
34:12
I do love Cambay shots hits though, like if they're really
34:16
good and The thing is like, that's reliable and here to
34:18
stay. Not to mention the fact that
34:19
he's been blocking a lot recently.
34:21
Like I want to choose Kempe, but I can't truly provide a decent
34:26
reason why. OK.
34:27
So that's like. You sound exactly like the US.
34:30
Exactly. No, I think, I think honestly
34:36
the the one thing I like, I guess the squishiness of stone
34:39
kind of lends to the fact that like it may be better to safer
34:43
to pick campaign. But what happens if Campaign has
34:46
an accident and then he's out? It's just not.
34:50
If it shows up at his door with a crowbar and he's like.
34:54
Big players on this podcast, that is.
34:57
I mean, it seems like you maybe but that suggestion I'm.
35:01
Just saying you never know with injury.
35:03
Yeah. You never know, you know?
35:05
Yeah, yeah. It's just, it's just to me, like
35:09
the power play discrepancy is massive there.
35:11
And now that they got Michael back, it's gonna just be better.
35:15
That being said, that. Yeah, now you gotta go still
35:19
here. You do have to go still.
35:20
But I I hate the fact that I'm doing that.
35:22
Yeah. What about you?
35:23
You love. Campaign.
35:24
I mean, for me it was Stone. Yeah, My, my, the initial one
35:29
was much scarier. Yeah, you can still have an
35:31
impulsive reaction, but then if you look at it, OK.
35:33
Are you crazy? I'm obviously going to not
35:35
stone. Mark Stoner, Natures.
35:38
Yeah, this is been really badly and bumped off power play one,
35:41
but I'm still going natures. Why?
35:43
I've just trust his points product.
35:44
Like even with how bad he's been he's averaging on the season
35:47
like 1.3 points. Power play sucks, but.
35:50
More stones averaging more points on the season.
35:52
I mean treating like a mark stone.
35:54
For and more stones, averaging 3 times the power play points.
35:56
Yeah, that just feels like a classic philosophy.
35:58
And Mark Stone has more shots. This is the season.
36:00
I'm not looking. I'm looking at the.
36:01
Season stuff I know, but I mean Mark Stone also missed like 2
36:04
months or a month of the season so his numbers are inflated from
36:06
playing fewer games. Wait, wait, you said.
36:08
And he just has been bad. Yeah, he put up one game of St.
36:11
0, so I called them bad. Yeah, I mean all the month.
36:15
He's at 1:00. .200 points per game like bad like 1.3 yeah
36:18
that's I mean that's. No, I gotta go.
36:21
Crazy with how good Stone has been, I just think.
36:23
That the other reason. That's.
36:25
Crazy for the production. Yeah, yeah.
36:28
Is .15 different between them? Probably.
36:32
I just trusted each with a lot more for some reason.
36:34
Why? I mean, I guess a lot of it is
36:37
not injury. Risk.
36:38
It's just, it's just cause he's quite the McLean on Carolina
36:43
too. Like it wasn't a superstar.
36:44
It wasn't like. Sounds like they just
36:47
consolidated the top 2 lines, but before that they were
36:49
splitting up the three. Lines we know more stones always
36:51
there. Yeah, but each line was getting
36:54
2 good players and one random, you know.
36:56
So like if marksman vote yeah, you're being thus smiting you
37:01
for for choosing marks, though I'm writing ages.
37:03
The throat goat. Has good thing we're doing a
37:08
countdown today you. Would be.
37:09
Honestly, no. I mean, yeah, they're actually
37:12
both good. Not bad.
37:13
It's not a bad one. I don't think it's ridiculous.
37:15
I'm still going anxious but. Whether it's Yeah, we're on the
37:20
same page. You're Josh, but it's it's
37:22
surprising you'd pick stone. I get it.
37:24
But natures to me like just playing with McKinnon is a whole
37:27
other level than playing with like anybody else.
37:29
And yet Mark Stone is outproducing him.
37:31
It's just the average is arson is like apple sizes lower it's.
37:34
Considerably, but it's still a big sample size.
37:36
Yeah, it's not like it's 10. Games like closed?
37:39
Yeah, like if it was. Like everything is closed except
37:42
the power play points and points is not close at all.
37:46
So then why are we so heavily leaning natures?
37:49
I just feel. Like and when we know we need
37:51
just it's in Rome of outcome for him to be line 3 at some some
37:54
point. That's true.
37:55
I think the same thing could be said for Stone with the.
37:57
I've never seen Storm line 3. Yeah, I don't know.
38:01
I just think that like, I think for players who are doing so
38:05
similarly, I know Stone has a lot bigger on power play points,
38:08
but yeah, yeah, big edge on power play points.
38:10
But I'd just rather the guy who I'm not expecting to just drop
38:15
like flies. Major does 9.
38:18
Sounds already had a session on the IR for a month this year.
38:21
Yeah, he's gonna have another one.
38:23
That's not impossible. Because since you're back, I
38:27
mean, he's played like what, 15 or three of those?
38:30
No points. That still ends up on IR again
38:33
at some point. This.
38:34
Season. OK.
38:34
I'll take that back. My was my other guidance that
38:38
that I was putting in there Marcellini lender, I'm going
38:41
more stone still. That's crazy.
38:43
Nature is better than Nylander and I think neon is probably
38:45
better than camping. That's wild.
38:47
I don't know. I think Milan is better than all
38:49
those guys. But I don't.
38:52
See. Something you have to really
38:54
rethink our baselines for these guys.
38:58
OK, no be no beating. Alright, next one we're talking
39:00
centres. This is going to be a hot topic,
39:02
baby God, but would you rather the best centre in the league,
39:06
Dylan Cousins or Sam Bennett rest of season?
39:09
Oh my God, thank. God, I'm not involved in this
39:11
one. I'll ask you the.
39:13
Questions. I know.
39:14
Just so everyone knows, Kevin has Bill and Cousins loves
39:17
Cousins. I do love making some.
39:19
Cousins and Jakey has Bennett and loves Bennett and this is a
39:25
yeah, this is a crazy one. This is.
39:27
Going. I'm going.
39:29
Bennett Wow. Why?
39:32
Have you seen what he's been doing?
39:33
Yeah, obviously Cousins been doing.
39:34
Yeah, I mean they're similar players.
39:36
That's why it's a good would you rather?
39:38
But I mean, who do I OK, I'll go like.
39:41
Both .75 players, yeah Cousins and the shots are negligible.
39:46
Anything get more points than Cousins power play points.
39:49
Expect to be similar. They're both elite, but.
39:51
Cousins is way better than power play really.
39:53
I mean, he's on the, he's on .43 on the season .2.
39:58
OK, I still think I think that could.
40:00
Chuck, they're both at .75 points per game.
40:02
On the season, they're both at .9.
40:04
Times and remember how bad when it was at the start of the
40:06
season? Yeah, gone.
40:06
Last stretches where he's been mad as well.
40:08
Yeah, go last 30 days. Average last 30 days Cousins one
40:11
point per game been at 1.2. Yeah Power player .54 for for
40:16
Cousins. Bennett .4.
40:18
Bennett is not a lock for PowerPoint on the whole year,
40:20
either. Yeah, for, for, for like a game.
40:24
It's gonna be like that. My life doesn't spend more.
40:28
Time on my phone. OK, you guys alright, I've got
40:35
my house. You don't wanna ever doubt in
40:41
Kevin's love for Dylan Cousins you've got in here.
40:46
I'd bet my life that Don't Cousin spends more time on power
40:49
play one for his own team this season than Ben Bennett does.
40:53
Like God, that's insane. No.
40:57
Yeah, there's not nothing that's high stakes, but for no reason.
41:02
This is like I've always serious about.
41:05
I figured out these situations Kevin talked about over the
41:07
years. We counted his head.
41:08
He's the one holding the gun. He make a decision who's the
41:12
best? Who's the better fantasy player?
41:16
You could just say strongly believe and that that that works
41:20
too. I haven't.
41:20
Eviction. OK.
41:22
I wouldn't bet my house my life. OK, yeah.
41:29
Then it gets more shots. Yeah, Cousins gets more.
41:31
Hits. It's very little.
41:32
And it gets more Pimms. It's very soft.
41:35
Winds are very similar. This is almost the exact same
41:38
player. Except power.
41:40
Play. I believe that better gets more
41:42
points though, so that to me is almost the deal.
41:44
Why are you convicted on that? I'm not.
41:48
How do you have the vision on that?
41:54
Can you use it that way? So I think it's super close.
41:59
I don't think you could go wrong either way.
42:00
I think that Bennett has the upside of what happens on
42:03
Jackets back, but it's also possible downside, right?
42:05
Maybe he's the one who gets bumped off.
42:06
Our cousins playing with Patterson and Brady could Chuck.
42:08
Yeah, but I mean, Matthew is better, but no, but honestly,
42:13
like it's super, super close. I just think that I was a lot
42:16
higher on Bennett going into the season and.
42:19
You were higher on him because you thought he was gonna be the
42:21
one see for this team. And that's what he's doing now.
42:23
So like start of the season he wasn't.
42:25
So then I was down on him in the past like month he's been doing
42:28
exactly what I expect him going to season Essence is doing
42:30
exactly what I expected him doing in this season.
42:31
I was also high on him. But at my beginning of the
42:34
season rankings, I had been at like 1 round earlier than
42:36
Cousins. And now they're both in exactly
42:38
what I expected them and their peaks.
42:40
So I would just go with Bennett because I Princess Peach to be
42:43
slightly. Higher, yeah.
42:44
The other thing is that with the return of to Chuck, they're just
42:46
gonna get better Florida, whether it's like.
42:49
Already high flying, I don't think Bennett goes from
42:51
averaging 1.2 to 1.5. No, that's not it.
42:54
It just it makes it more likely to stay above a point per game
42:57
because this is the floor. Yeah, that's what it is.
43:00
It doesn't really matter. This is his ceiling .2 points
43:05
per. Game, I think they're both gonna
43:07
end on .75 points per game on the season.
43:08
I think .75 point 8 I think is realistic.
43:10
Honestly, I feel like this is splitting feathers.
43:12
I think you pick two players who are gonna enter.
43:14
Similar over the rest of the. Season that is more like your.
43:16
Profile. You gotta choose one and then
43:17
I'm thinking playoffs. As well, they both have 11.
43:20
I know I'm thinking playoffs as well, and I'm also thinking the
43:22
power play, and to me the power play is a big differentiator,
43:25
yeah, because I know Dylan Cousins is involved on the power
43:27
play and it's not one of the main guys on the power play.
43:30
So, so that's fair. I'm slightly going better just
43:34
because I think Florida is these four more goals between now and
43:36
the end of the. Year we think Ben is gonna be
43:38
involved in. And it has a higher chance of of
43:40
like Bennett and have an equal chance, let's say, of being
43:43
involved in their team's goals. Yet I expect Florida to score
43:45
more so. Therefore.
43:47
Points out of Bennett, and that's kind of where my.
43:50
Decision Ottawa scores all TuneIn.
43:53
Once again, so personally. I put my life on this one.
43:56
Actually asked you something. I'm kind of out of left.
43:58
Field though, Sure. Versus who?
44:02
Either one of these guys though, like Cousins, bet, but do you
44:06
take either of them over Trocheck?
44:09
No, I think church or both of these.
44:10
Guys, good question. Yeah, you guys anymore from your
44:13
caller Carlson? Yes.
44:15
Cause we cause I I recommend in. The past would face off ones,
44:19
yeah. I recommended in our last we
44:22
said you could still benefit for Leo Carl.
44:25
And both of these guys are also like really good at Pimms, too,
44:27
which is a big, a big thing there.
44:29
But yeah, I think Neil Carlson gets more points in both of
44:32
these guys. But I think the shots and the
44:35
hits make up for it, as well as the power production as well as
44:38
the Pimms. So it's just a different
44:41
archetype of player. Like in a draft, like you're
44:43
probably drafting Neil Carlson first, but you're probably
44:46
happier with the value you're getting on one of these guys in
44:47
the production from these guys. I just think like one thing not
44:50
to forget is there were points this year where both Cousins and
44:53
Bennett were like, guys, you were like, I wish you wasn't on
44:55
my team. No.
44:58
Happening right now, right? So by just like let's remember
45:00
before there were times that were invented and cousins and
45:03
before there was a time where Leo Carson was literally ranked
45:05
number one in the entire league or in our fantasy, the most
45:07
fantasy league. So it's just the ceiling is so
45:10
high, but I would still do the flip.
45:12
But it really depends where you are in your league.
45:14
Also right if you need if you're looking for playoffs.
45:15
I'm also extremely biased so. Yeah, that is also true.
45:18
Just remember when Kevin was saying that you should think
45:21
Josh Morris over Connor McDavid. So, well, he got his life goes.
45:26
Like. So Bennett, Josh takes Bennett,
45:30
Kevin takes Cousins. It was obviously you guys were
45:33
going with that. Was this?
45:34
Yeah. Yeah, you were the one that was,
45:37
or that was the word I used before.
45:39
No, you were the instrument. Yeah.
45:44
Sounds like it's like a board game.
45:46
Yeah, exactly. It's just random names that like
45:49
sort out someone get. Away with that.
45:52
Maybe that's an offseason thing, we play board game online or
45:54
something. I don't know.
45:55
Anything anyone wants to see me you.
45:57
Know. OK.
46:00
Do you still start from the last time we played together?
46:04
Thank you. 2nd to last two times ago.
46:09
Alright, talking goalies now. OK, this is a slam dunk in my
46:12
mind. So we're talking Jet grieves
46:16
versus Ilya Sorokin rest of season.
46:19
So crazy I'm going sorokin. I know Jesus went insane.
46:23
I know he started 12/13. That's.
46:25
Crazy. I think it was gonna be a strong
46:30
team second-half of the season. I think Columbus is one of the
46:32
best teams in league in the 1st 2 periods.
46:34
And I think third period comes around and they're like times
46:37
you think we're up four? One against Pittsburgh.
46:39
And what was the final score? 54 from Pittsburgh?
46:43
They cannot, they cannot hold the third period lead.
46:45
Look, I like checking this volume, but I think Sorokin gets
46:48
the same volume as Grieves. So give them a tie on that one.
46:51
And then in terms of how good the team is right now, Islanders
46:55
are better. They're the same tier, fringe
46:58
playoff. Yeah, but I think.
46:59
That's a better goalie and I don't think like, I think I
47:03
understand, I think just the team is just as good as one of
47:05
the other. So I would just go with the
47:07
better goalie. I think I think Columbus is a
47:09
better team than the Islanders and I think they'll they'll
47:11
prove it rest of season. And I think there's stats if you
47:13
look at them right now are basically the same.
47:16
And Columbus has been playing like dog water and the Islands
47:19
have been like an impressive team, let's say.
47:22
So I think there's a lot more room for regression for the ones
47:25
to slow down a little bit. We saw point of the season last
47:27
year as well. Burton was just got off and we
47:29
saw that he picked up near the end of the season when it didn't
47:31
make any sense. And I think Grieves also is just
47:34
like has so much volume that. I think one thing.
47:37
That's. True.
47:38
That makes it like maybe I feel like one reason you prefer
47:42
grieves not just as your team, but also like the value that you
47:45
got them for free, right. So it feels great.
47:47
Whereas someone who drafts stroke and probably like eighth
47:49
and ninth round, you know, So that case, I'm 100% taking
47:51
grieves. But if we're looking at like
47:53
just which one would you rather team?
47:54
I'm still going, Sir. OK.
47:55
I Would anybody be about me that grieves has a better save
47:59
percentage and goals against average and Sorokin and you know
48:02
the year. I'll do that.
48:04
I actually, I, I'm, I'm picking grieves.
48:08
Map of culture. I've never doubted Jackie.
48:10
Yeah, yeah, never. So that makes.
48:13
It easy performance. Yeah, I I first of all, it's
48:19
super fun because you know, he's owned in like half as many
48:22
leagues. Yeah, broken is.
48:23
So that's that's kind of groovy. Groovy.
48:26
Yeah. Oh, that's good, yeah.
48:28
Nice, but it's just like, I just don't believe in the Islanders
48:32
as much as I believe in Columbus, which does sound
48:34
crazy. That being said, like a lot of
48:39
the Islander success has to do with Corvette and Schaefer this
48:44
year. Schaefer, I mean, it's not like
48:46
he's going to be off for a while.
48:47
He's just sick. But even if he does miss a
48:50
little bit of time, that's going to hinder their their.
48:54
Unless you just like a week. Yeah, yeah, I'm.
48:58
Just more likely to get injured, Shafer.
49:00
Werenski. But it's also horribly injured.
49:01
I'm saying yeah, you know what I'm saying?
49:03
So. Like I'm basing this on injuries
49:04
themselves, I just think there's actually a good goalie too.
49:07
Yeah, I think Sara is way better Living Greens, but I think.
49:10
It was also the symbol you was like 3 or 4 years ago either on
49:14
the same team. That's.
49:15
What it is actually Columbus is good like I like Columbus, the
49:19
Islanders. Are like, I prefer Sorokin, but
49:21
I think it's close enough that if you have Sorokin and you can
49:23
trade him for Grieves plus I think that's a perfect.
49:25
Yeah, I think you could. I think with the name value.
49:28
Alone, I think you're absolutely.
49:29
Yeah, for sure. Yeah.
49:31
So I'm actually going to go greens, which is fun.
49:33
I just want I wasn't informed. OK, last one we're going
49:37
defenseman. OK this one I feel like a spicy
49:40
but would you rather Jake Sanderson or Mural Haskin and
49:44
rest of season mile? That's crazy because like, my
49:48
gut and my heart tells me Sanderson, Yeah, about literally
49:51
every stat. I know he's.
49:54
He's been like a failure to buy low forever and like maybe we
49:56
just have to reevaluate expectations.
49:58
I think that's that's it at a certain point, right, you kind
50:00
of have to reevaluate for the longest time for the.
50:04
Longest something is a major below though.
50:06
Yeah, no, Sanderson still a major, by the way, still very
50:08
much believe in him. And the thing with Heskin,
50:11
though, is that for years he's been such a like the classic,
50:15
amazing real life, terrible for fantasy this series, great for
50:17
fantasy. And The thing is that being bad
50:22
at fantasy is the thing that didn't make sense, not the being
50:23
good. If that makes you know he's.
50:25
Always being bad for so long that it was.
50:27
For sure it became the norm, but like it never made sense to me.
50:30
Like how do you be such a good player with such good deployment
50:32
on such a good? Completing.
50:33
No, it's not the same because he was getting his power play one
50:35
on like a high scoring team, not a crazy coach, you know, so like
50:39
it didn't make sense. So him the powerful one
50:42
quarterback on Dallas being amazing for fantasy this.
50:44
Year makes sense. Makes perfect sense, right?
50:46
So but also probably 1 quarterback on Ottawa is just as
50:51
good power play, but I think I gotta go he's.
50:53
Gonna you know their stats are on the season.
50:55
What are the stats on the? Season, season average Sanderson
50:58
.73 points yeah, he's gonna .86. So he's got the edge there.
51:03
We know also, like he was on fire for so long.
51:05
I expected a bigger gap. Yeah, Sanderson .28 point 33.
51:11
That's lower than expected for both of them.
51:12
Actually, and then on the shots, Sanderson 252.05, he's getting
51:18
2.14, pretty much the same, pretty much the same .35 point
51:23
17 and then blocks point 1.831.88.
51:26
Crazy they're so close. And one of them were We had such
51:29
a good view of. One of them we have such a bad
51:30
view of. Yeah, it's really just the fact
51:33
that I still, I very much want Sanderson on my team.
51:36
I almost want Sanderson, my team more than I want Haskin in.
51:39
But I still think he's better. I don't know if that makes
51:41
sense. I think I can get Sanderson for
51:43
cheaper. That's why I want him on my team
51:44
more for similar production. But I think he's got to have.
51:47
The thing has these starts with what we saw Dallas do for like
51:50
months, expected better. And I feel like this is maybe
51:54
Sanderson's floor and now auto is starting to cook and you
51:58
know, they're getting healthier as well.
51:59
So I feel. Like it's been popping off I
52:02
feel like. We went to 8 is pretty good,
52:04
it's just it'll be weeks where you know he doesn't get involved
52:07
in the two points they get and then someone will get all three
52:09
points or whatever. So I don't know.
52:11
I'm still going. I don't know what you guys
52:13
think. It's definitely close for me.
52:15
I feel like he's in the safer option.
52:18
But my heart is telling me Sanderson.
52:20
I see. Like if you have Easton in,
52:22
like, why would you ever make that switch?
52:23
You know, you're trading with the hope that Satan will be
52:26
slightly better, but with the actual like currently he's just
52:29
slightly. But there's also the risk of
52:31
losing. Just go back to what he did last
52:33
year. I don't think so.
52:34
I'm not at this. Point in the season and he's
52:36
gonna has a Thomas Harley thing too.
52:38
I don't even feel like. A thing.
52:39
It doesn't feel like a thing anymore, but still there.
52:41
'Cause you got a lot of money. That's the thing with Harley.
52:43
Like it's like, why would I get it?
52:45
Like they wanna win and. He's also like to think about
52:48
the fact that just like they signed him to a lot of money
52:50
doesn't necessarily mean that they wanted to be popular.
52:55
Or whatever. No, no, not at all.
52:56
I'm saying just this year, you know, he could still be in the
52:58
plans for the future. The plan could have always been
53:01
start with Easton. And when he inevitably does
53:03
terrible like he always does with Harley and he's gonna was
53:05
like, oh, I finally have some competition, so I'm gonna
53:07
actually play well now. So and they kind of forced into
53:10
their hands. Were verbatim.
53:11
Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna go. He's coming here.
53:14
It's been like enough of a sample size that he's actually
53:17
really good recommended him in my bio cell high in week 7 and
53:23
Sanderson was actually one of the targets of back then.
53:26
So I you know, I wouldn't say, but I also recommended Hudson
53:30
Warenski Bouchard to other other laws.
53:32
Yeah, it's close though. It's close enough that I'm not
53:35
mad about having either of these guys obviously rest this season.
53:38
I just like I don't think that there's going to be huge spark
53:41
with Sanderson where you're like wow, like he's amazing now.
53:44
I think it's. Just going to be, I think it's
53:46
welcomes on this Ottawa team. Players are so crazy.
53:49
Maybe a week where he gets like 7 points, five of them are power
53:52
play points and the average get completely skewed after that.
53:54
Yeah, could happen. Actually just less likely for
53:58
some. Reason.
53:59
Yeah, well, also would like with Sanderson, like he's so streaky.
54:02
So if you get the Sanderson who's on fire in 10 times the
54:05
playoffs, then you're laughing, you're so happy.
54:08
But if you get this Anderson who disappears for a week, that
54:10
could cost you the playoffs. So I guess in my mind, I'm just
54:12
like, kind of like baking a lot of like what we've seen from
54:15
Hassan in previous years and like, he's just never been that
54:17
guy. So this year he was that guy.
54:19
He had one year and that's like, it's looking like this is gonna
54:21
happen again. And so that's what I'm saying.
54:23
He has so much production already that the floor of what
54:26
he's gonna end the season is would be higher than what we
54:28
expected. Yeah.
54:29
But there's always like, if he ends the season and it's like
54:32
previous pace, let's say, I'm not gonna be as happy as if I
54:34
just have centres on my roster, probably.
54:36
So that's why I feel like it's just a close question.
54:38
You gotta. It's like a gut call.
54:40
My gut calls telling me Sanderson.
54:42
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