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The Late Debate | 2 July · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Lateener, welcome wait debate.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's great to have your company on the Late
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  Speaker 2: Debate James Macpherson with Liz Storer and Caleb Bond coming up.
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  Speaker 2: A Melbourne real estate agent reckons he should be the
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  Speaker 2: one to sell your house because he's the best looking
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  Speaker 2: real estate agent in all of Melbourne.
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  Speaker 3: I'll show you a photograph a little lately.
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  Speaker 4: Lucky, I'm not a real estate agent in Melbourne. He'd
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  Speaker 4: have some competition for that title.
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  Speaker 5: First.
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  Speaker 3: We'll decide after that, Caleb.
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  Speaker 2: Plus, when we look at the papers, fresh questions being
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  Speaker 2: asked about the death of Cardinal George pell and hospital
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  Speaker 2: workers doctors and nurses wearing body cams amid a rising
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  Speaker 2: number of assaults. But first, Victorian politicians gave themselves a
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  Speaker 2: three point five percent pay rise yesterday, which took the
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  Speaker 2: Victorian premier just sent to Alan's annual wage up to
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  Speaker 2: almost half a million dollars, which isn't a bad reward
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  Speaker 2: for presiding over a state with a net debt approaching
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty five dollars and rising. And of
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  Speaker 2: course she gets this pay rise at the same time
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  Speaker 2: that she's telling Victorian hospitals they need to drastically cut
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  Speaker 2: back on their operations budget because you know, the state
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  Speaker 2: just doesn't have enough money. So with all of that
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  Speaker 2: going on, this tweet from Justin to Allen yesterday caught
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  Speaker 2: our attention. She tweeted, today marks one hundred and seventy
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  Speaker 2: three years since Victoria legally separated from New South Wales.
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  Speaker 2: Best move we ever made. Well, there's nothing like trying
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  Speaker 2: to distract everyone from your undeserved pay rise with a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of infantile interstate rivalry.
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  Speaker 6: But interestingly, in eighteen.
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  Speaker 2: Fifty one, the same year that Victoria separated from New
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  Speaker 2: South Wales, Victoria announced.
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  Speaker 6: A gold rush. But with all of that gold.
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  Speaker 2: One hundred and seventy three years later, there's something like
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  Speaker 2: thirty billion dollars more in debt than New South Wales
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  Speaker 2: and still you can't get a train from Tullamarine to
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  Speaker 2: the city.
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  Speaker 3: Caleb.
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  Speaker 4: It's an absolute disgrace. Look, let's be perfectly honest here.
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  Speaker 4: Many Victorians would like to rejoin New South Wales tomorrow
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  Speaker 4: because they know how bad the situation is, they know
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  Speaker 4: how bad the debt is. They're desperate for a labor
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  Speaker 4: right premiere instead of a labor left premiere.
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  Speaker 6: But you look at their debt down there.
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  Speaker 4: They're the most indebted state in the country, and they're
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  Speaker 4: actually one of the most indebted jurisdictions in the world.
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  Speaker 3: Can you believe it?
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  Speaker 4: But it's like you know that Johnny Cash song five
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  Speaker 4: feet high in Rising?
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  Speaker 6: How high is the water, Mama?
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  Speaker 4: Well in this case, it's like, you know, how high
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  Speaker 4: is the state debt, Mama? Billions and billions in rising
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  Speaker 4: and just keeps going up and up up.
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  Speaker 6: It won't stop. But we won't take them.
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  Speaker 4: In New South Wales, we do not want Victoria because
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  Speaker 4: can you imagine, like we are so lucky that we
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  Speaker 4: split from them. Can you imagine if we had to
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  Speaker 4: deal with all of that nonsense today, all the debt
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  Speaker 4: that we would have to take on. Putting that line
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  Speaker 4: there was the best thing they ever did because it
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  Speaker 4: kept all the socialists out of New South Wales. And
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  Speaker 4: I'm very glad for you and all the people that
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  Speaker 4: were voting for Dan Andrews.
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  Speaker 7: We do not want you, Okay, you've.
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  Speaker 5: Made your bed stay there lying in it. A report
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  Speaker 5: in March from the IPA and it used ten KPIs
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  Speaker 5: and it put all the states next to each other.
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  Speaker 5: Victoria rated second last or last in seven of those tens.
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  Speaker 5: So we know that it's ranked highest for tax burden,
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  Speaker 5: tax debt, and energy costs, and I honestly, last time
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  Speaker 5: I checked as well, it was also the highest ranked
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  Speaker 5: in terms of people leaving the state and migrating to
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  Speaker 5: other states. Because honestly, especially if you're a parent in
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  Speaker 5: Victoria right now, looking at the tax burden, the debt
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  Speaker 5: burden and the tax burden, obviously they're married up there,
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  Speaker 5: wouldn't you just be like, I'm getting the hell out
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  Speaker 5: of here. My kids are not paying this off. They
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  Speaker 5: are not going to be under the same tax burden
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  Speaker 5: that I'm struggling under right now to pay off.
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  Speaker 7: All Victoria's jolly mistakes.
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  Speaker 5: Like we keep saying, every state had a pandemic, every
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  Speaker 5: single every single state and territory had the same pandemic.
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  Speaker 7: Nobody wrapped up the.
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  Speaker 5: Kind of bankruptcy that Victoria did.
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  Speaker 2: It's a little rich of Jacenter Ellen to be boasting
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  Speaker 2: that Victoria is better off without New South Wales and
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  Speaker 2: New South Wales. People were quite happy for that separation.
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  Speaker 2: You used to say, the only good thing about Victoria,
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  Speaker 2: of course, was the AFL. But even now Sydney has
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  Speaker 2: the best aff sating on top of the ladder.
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  Speaker 6: Have him, they do at the moment.
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  Speaker 5: But interestingly, and anyone who believes in the supernatural would
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  Speaker 5: wonder the same thing. This reminded me strangely of something
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  Speaker 5: that I saw after the twenty twenty two census, which
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  Speaker 5: showed that Victoria had, in fact, forul Melbourne namely, had
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  Speaker 5: in fact become the capital of Satan worship.
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  Speaker 7: In the nation.
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  Speaker 5: Check out this video that Vice made at the time
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  Speaker 5: about this.
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  Speaker 4: It's possible your neighbor might be performing Satanic rituals, or
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  Speaker 4: your cousin could even be a devil worshiper.
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  Speaker 5: Bidle says, godliness, exultination, righteousness makes it strong. I just
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  Speaker 5: find as a churchy myself that for me personally, obviously,
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  Speaker 5: other people would probably think this is wacky, but there
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  Speaker 5: cannot be no correlation here, because anyone who believes in
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  Speaker 5: the supernatural realm believes that the physical is a mirror
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  Speaker 5: of it in some way, shape or form. And it
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  Speaker 5: did get me to wondering because I had no idea
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  Speaker 5: Melbourne was the Satanist capital in Melia.
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  Speaker 4: Had no idea Satan was literally the premiere of Victoria
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  Speaker 4: for years and they worshiped him.
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  Speaker 6: Daniel Andrews is his name.
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  Speaker 4: They worshiped him every single day when he came out
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  Speaker 4: in his north face jacket. Telling me that Victoria is
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  Speaker 4: the Satanic capital of Australia is like telling me that
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  Speaker 4: it's blue in the sky.
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  Speaker 7: We all know how much sense to me now?
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  Speaker 8: No wonder he got re elected after terrorizing the population
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  Speaker 8: for years.
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  Speaker 2: When the Herald Son reported that Victoria is the Satan
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  Speaker 2: capital of Australia, this line stood out to me. They
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  Speaker 2: wrote to some of these satanists had been atheists, but
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  Speaker 2: we're looking for something more. So I don't believe in God,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm going to get the devil a going.
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  Speaker 7: My god instead.
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  Speaker 4: And he was pretty good at winning elections too, would
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  Speaker 4: you believe it all?
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  Speaker 6: Let's go over to the US.
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  Speaker 4: Now. We hear all the time about misinformation and disinformation,
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  Speaker 4: and you know, of course here in Australia we've got
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  Speaker 4: this Misinformation Disinformation Bill coming up. You had the President's
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  Speaker 4: Press Secretary kringe On Pierre, most recently trying to claim
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  Speaker 4: that videos of Joe Barden were deep fakes and cheap fakes,
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  Speaker 4: and that they were missing information and disinformation that were
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  Speaker 4: lying to you about the real states of the president. Well,
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  Speaker 4: we all saw him at the debate on Friday. I
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  Speaker 4: think we can all agree they were not cheap fakes
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  Speaker 4: or defakes. But this is the line now, misinformation and disinformation.
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  Speaker 4: It's what politicians use when they want to discredit someone's argument,
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  Speaker 4: i e. Fact that they don't like that go against
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  Speaker 4: their argument. Well, funnily enough, Kamala Harris, the Vice President
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  Speaker 4: of the United States, has been caught out engaging in
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  Speaker 4: misinformation and disinformation herself. She tweeted this, Donald Trump would
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  Speaker 4: ban abortion nationwide. President Joe Biden and I will do
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  Speaker 4: everything in our power to stop him and restore women's
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  Speaker 4: reproductive freedom. Let me repeat that Donald Trump would ban
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  Speaker 4: abortion nation wide.
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  Speaker 6: Well, isn't it good that these days.
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  Speaker 4: We have things like I don't know videos and I'm
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  Speaker 4: not talking about cheap or defeates that we can go
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  Speaker 4: back to that prove these kind of statements wrong all
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  Speaker 4: the tape.
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  Speaker 9: My view is now that we have abortion where everybody
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  Speaker 9: wanted it. From a legal standpoint, the stage will determine
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  Speaker 9: by vote or a legislation, or perhaps both, and whatever
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  Speaker 9: they decide must be the law of the land.
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  Speaker 6: In this case, the law of the state. Many stages
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  Speaker 6: will be different.
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  Speaker 4: So that was April Donald Trump saying that the states
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  Speaker 4: will make their own laws, and now Kamala Harris claims
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  Speaker 4: that he will institute a national ban on abortion. It's
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  Speaker 4: simply not true now, of course, one of the interesting
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  Speaker 4: things about the fact that she put it on X
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  Speaker 4: formally Twitter, Elon Musk's platform, is that these days, when
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  Speaker 4: someone puts misinformational disinformation on X, you can actually go
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  Speaker 4: on and make a complaint and they put a little
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  Speaker 4: addendum at the bottom of the tweet or the post
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  Speaker 4: or whatever it's called now that points out the actual truth.
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  Speaker 4: And Elon Musk himself harnessed this today he said, when
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  Speaker 4: will politicians, or at least the intern who runs their account,
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  Speaker 4: which in most cases is probably true. If you check
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  Speaker 4: Joe Biden's Twitter account, My god, some of the stuff
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  Speaker 4: that's posted on there is just inane.
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  Speaker 6: And learned it lying. When will they learn that lying.
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  Speaker 4: On this platform does not work anymore?
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  Speaker 6: I mean, it's just a bald faced lie.
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  Speaker 4: On what basis would she try to claim that there
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  Speaker 4: is going to be a nationwide band on abortion.
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  Speaker 7: He's literally never said it, because they're shilling.
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  Speaker 5: For votes, and right now they are desperate for votes,
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  Speaker 5: especially after Friday's performance from the sitting president, or should
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  Speaker 5: I say lack thereof, But yeah, they're desperate and they
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  Speaker 5: know that nothing harnesses especially the female fury of the US.
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  Speaker 5: We saw this when Rovi Wade was overturned by the
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  Speaker 5: Supreme Court.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, you've just.
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  Speaker 5: Not seen scenes like that for a very long time.
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  Speaker 5: This gets people on both sides, whether you're or.
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  Speaker 7: Anti, absolutely rabid.
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  Speaker 5: And she is trying, by lying to make women believe
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  Speaker 5: that nationwide, there's just going to be a complete kibosh
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  Speaker 5: on abortions. It is a lie, but she's doing it
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  Speaker 5: in order, I guess, appealing to the lowest common denominator
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  Speaker 5: who doesn't know well enough the community. Note that X
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  Speaker 5: then slapped on her tweet literally said, I quote President
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  Speaker 5: Trump has repeatedly said he will not sign a national
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  Speaker 5: abortion band, and had five links attached so that if
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  Speaker 5: people were questioning the community, note, they could click on
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  Speaker 5: any number of those five links and watch him say
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  Speaker 5: it like we just played for folks watching back home.
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  Speaker 7: So it was completely blown out of the water the
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  Speaker 7: minute she posted it.
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  Speaker 5: But again, if you're appealing to the lowest common denominator,
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  Speaker 5: then you're gonna get those ropeable people that you're after.
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  Speaker 5: But of course that didn't even stop her from then
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  Speaker 5: releasing this completely cringe video once again trying to appeal
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  Speaker 5: to women on the basis of we're protecting your reproduction rights.
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  Speaker 7: Trump's going to take them away.
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  Speaker 10: So what's on your mind.
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  Speaker 11: Oh, Madam VP Harris, I'm worried about the election. Women's
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  Speaker 11: reproductive rights are on the line, our Supreme Court is
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  Speaker 11: on the line. Our basic freedoms are being tested.
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  Speaker 6: Madam VP.
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  Speaker 11: I know you've been sure having cross country.
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  Speaker 7: What are you hearing?
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, girl, I'm out here in these streets, and let
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  Speaker 10: me tell you you're right, Taraji. There is so much
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  Speaker 10: at stake in this moment. The majority of us believe
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  Speaker 10: in freedom and equality. But these extremists, as they say, they're.
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  Speaker 6: Not like us. The they not.
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  Speaker 10: There's a full on attack on our fundamental freedoms.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, a full on attack on our fundamental freedoms.
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  Speaker 7: Don't you just love it?
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  Speaker 5: The more they refer to anyone who believes different lead
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  Speaker 5: to them as extremists, I'm like, this is wearing so
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  Speaker 5: thin so fast.
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  Speaker 7: Nobody believes you anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, girl, I've been out on these streets and imagine
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  Speaker 2: running an administration so bad, failing so epically that your
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  Speaker 2: your greatest hope for reelection is to boast it you'll
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  Speaker 2: be more effective in killing the unborn than your opponents.
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  Speaker 6: Well.
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  Speaker 2: Back in March, Jane Marla Harris proudly announced a historic
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  Speaker 2: tour of abortion clinics throughout America, boasting that she was
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  Speaker 2: the first sitting president or vice president to actually visit
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  Speaker 2: an abortion clinic. And this was her big pitch to voters.
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  Speaker 2: There's almost a million unborn children aborted every year in
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  Speaker 2: the United States, and the best that the Biden administration
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  Speaker 2: can do coming up to this election is say we'll
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  Speaker 2: make sure that continues. That's how epically bad they are.
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  Speaker 3: It's just a disgrace.
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  Speaker 7: And Trump's more the one for freedom, being.
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  Speaker 5: Like, hey, I'm actually leaving it up to the states
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  Speaker 5: state by state basis, which also means that if someone
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  Speaker 5: wants to access.
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  Speaker 7: The ability to kill their baby, like you very accurately say, Mac,
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  Speaker 7: just across the state border. There's a lot of states
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  Speaker 7: to choose from.
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  Speaker 5: You can just take yourself where it's fine and they'll
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  Speaker 5: book you right in so they're the ones who are
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  Speaker 5: basically talking about a nationwide it's a free for all,
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  Speaker 5: whereas he's like, hey, let's let's let the more conservative
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  Speaker 5: states states say nay, make up their own rules with
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  Speaker 5: regard to this, with the more liberal states being.
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  Speaker 7: Like, hey, it's a free for all.
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  Speaker 5: As there are states in the US that say right
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  Speaker 5: up until the day of birth will book you in.
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  Speaker 5: But let's not forget what President Joe Biden said on
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  Speaker 5: the night of that fatefully terrible debate.
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  Speaker 7: Here was him in defense of abortion.
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  Speaker 12: The vast majority of consuls and scholars support it, row
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  Speaker 12: when it was decided support it role, and that was
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  Speaker 12: that's this idea that they're all against it.
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  Speaker 6: It's just ridiculous.
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  Speaker 12: And this is a guy who says the state should
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  Speaker 12: be able to have it. We're in a state where in
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  Speaker 12: six weeks you don't even know whether you're pregnate or not,
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  Speaker 12: but you cannot see a doctor, have your and have
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  Speaker 12: him decide on what your circumstances are when you need help.
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  Speaker 6: But here's the deal.
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  Speaker 12: There's a lot of young women to be raped by
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  Speaker 12: their by their in laws, by their by their spouses,
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  Speaker 12: brothers and sisters, by it's just ridiculous, and they can
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  Speaker 12: do nothing about it, and they try to rest them
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  Speaker 12: on the cross state line.
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  Speaker 5: People are being raped by their brothers, insisters.
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  Speaker 7: That that is your argument.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't know that two women could have a child.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't know.
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  Speaker 7: I didn't think that was that was very problematic.
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  Speaker 5: But clearly, according to President Biden, that is possible, and
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  Speaker 5: that is why he is standing up for reproductive rights
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  Speaker 5: staying in the US. Now there has been a complete
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  Speaker 5: melt down on behalf of the damn. The US Supreme
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  Speaker 5: Court has just ruled that presidents and ex presidents cannot
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  Speaker 5: be prosecuted for decisions that they made, things that they
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  Speaker 5: did as president or obviously ex president in Trump's case,
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  Speaker 5: if those decisions were part of their core duties as president.
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  Speaker 5: Well to the meltdown, the vote on the Supreme Court
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  Speaker 5: went six ' three, which is very predictable with the
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  Speaker 5: Conservatives holding a six strong majority in the Supreme Court.
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  Speaker 7: And of course this complicates things.
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  Speaker 5: Drastically for the Dems because they've got this trial coming
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  Speaker 5: up in which they want to hold Trump to account
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  Speaker 5: for trying to overturn the twenty twenty election. Of course,
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  Speaker 5: he didn't do that. But they're not going to roll
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  Speaker 5: those tapes, and I just think this is hilarious. So
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  Speaker 5: that trial has already been pushed back because they're like,
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  Speaker 5: this is a massive complication that we did not see,
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  Speaker 5: and they're trying to now ascertain whether the decisions that
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  Speaker 5: he made around that time and the dying days of
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  Speaker 5: his presidency were in fact a core part.
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  Speaker 7: Of well the president's job at the time.
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  Speaker 5: If that falls over, because the Supreme Court has now
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  Speaker 5: referred that part to a district court. If that falls over,
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  Speaker 5: I guess they won't have a case at all.
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  Speaker 4: And that's why it's important because this is the January
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  Speaker 4: sixth case is the one that could have led to
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  Speaker 4: him being imprisoned before November, when the presidential election will
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  Speaker 4: be held. So it severely delays that and possibly scapers it,
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  Speaker 4: which was the whole point of running this case. But
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  Speaker 4: the unhinging of it today was incredible. So you had
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  Speaker 4: Joe Barden come out with a spray tan on seemingly
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  Speaker 4: after his team complained that he looked pale on Friday Thursday,
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  Speaker 4: US time because the CNN makeup artists had done him
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  Speaker 4: up to pale or something.
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  Speaker 6: That's why he so sickly.
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  Speaker 4: So they've now seen him off to go and have
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  Speaker 4: a spray tand so he can look like Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 4: So you can pick between orange man good and orange
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  Speaker 4: man bad.
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  Speaker 6: Now I suppose it seems to be what they're going for.
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  Speaker 4: I was just sort of imagining Jill there this morning
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  Speaker 4: with like the spray bottle China, like.
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  Speaker 6: We need to make you look alive, Joe.
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  Speaker 4: So Joe comes out and says his piece in which
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  Speaker 4: he essentially rebukes the Supreme Court, which is his historic
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  Speaker 4: moment for a president to come out and say that
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  Speaker 4: the Supreme Court is wrong and that you now need
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  Speaker 4: to exercise your voice against the Supreme Court by voting
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  Speaker 4: for me.
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  Speaker 2: Especially when he's claiming that Trump is a threat to demoscrap.
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  Speaker 4: And he's saying the Court is wrong and you have
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  Speaker 4: to vote for me to try and rebuke the Court.
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  Speaker 4: Then you had these like absolutely unfathomable ideas being put
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  Speaker 4: forward that it would mean that Trump or or any
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: other sitting president would be able to legitimately have their
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: politic opponents executed and that they would be immune from
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  Speaker 4: prosecution's last time a military coup like atlaive Checks, having
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  Speaker 4: someone executed is not part of your duties as president,
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  Speaker 4: and how if you can argue that it is I'm
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  Speaker 4: here for the court case.
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  Speaker 2: I can't if they're an Iranian terrorist or a Syrian terrist.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, well okay, but that's a bit different. That's
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: a military operation. It's not like, you know, Joe Biden's
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: going to rock down to the CIA and say, look,
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: can you just go and put a bullet in Donald
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: Trump's head for me?
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: Please? It's just crazy town stuff.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: But this is where they are because after that debate,
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: they know.
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: That if Biden is the man in November.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: They are stuffed, and so they're grabbing onto literally anything
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: they can right now, even if it is patently absurd.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Well on that point, have a listened to Democrat Representative
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Zoe Lovgren. She makes exactly the ridiculous point that Calorb
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: just warned of.
• 18:58
  Speaker 13: I guess you know, theoretically President Biden, acting within the
• 19:04
  Speaker 13: scope of his official duties, could dispatch the military to
• 19:08
  Speaker 13: take out the conservative justices on the court and he'd be.
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  Speaker 6: A mere.
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  Speaker 2: Could you imagine if a Republican said that, they would.
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: Be done for incitement? Honest?
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: And I mean she before she was a Democrat, like
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: most politicians. She was a lawyer, but I don't know
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: how anyone would have paid that lady to represent them
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: in the court of law if that's the kind of
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: logic that she uses to make an argument.
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: But again it speaks to the fearmongering.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: So the last story is Kamala Harris being like, there's
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: going to be a massive nationwide pi bosh, You're not
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: going to be able to chill your babies anymore. Now
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: they're trumpeting the fact that Trump's just going to be
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: able to kill people indiscriminately.
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: That's what this US Supreme Court ruled.
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: But can you imagine if presidents and ex presidents weren't
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: like immune to institution for some of the decisions that
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: they've made, the wars their countries have participated in. Now
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: that people know a lot more about them, the jails
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: would be full of.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: It's foolish for Biden to be upset about this. This
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: is great news for him exactly because it now pretty
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: much protects him from what they're warning of that Trump
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: is going to come into office and he's going to
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: send everybody to jail.
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: He doesn't protect Biden from his family's dodgy business dealings.
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  Speaker 7: That the Congress and others are still busy digging through.
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  Speaker 7: We have not seen the end of that story.
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  Speaker 5: Yet, because of course, that had nothing to do with
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: his business as a president or at the time vice president.
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: That had everything to do with something that.
• 20:43
  Speaker 7: Was supposed to be and remain off the book.
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: Now.
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  Speaker 2: I can see you moving your notes because you want
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  Speaker 2: to move on to the next topic. But we do
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  Speaker 2: All right, I got this program back on track.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: Five.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Six years after the death of Jeffrey Epstein, questions continue
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: to be asked. Yesterday, transcripts from the grand jury investigation
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: back in two thousand and.
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: Eight were released.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: There I remember, Jeffrey Epstein was offered a plea deal
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: where he got to plead to trafficking minus for the
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: purpose of prostitution and served only about eighteen months in prison.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Then he was released to continue trafficking young girls for
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: another ten years before he was finally.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: Arrested and jailed.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: It's come to light that the prosecutors who offered Epstein
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: this plea deal knew very well that he'd been raping
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: young girls as young as fourteen, and that he had
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: been paying teenage girls to get their friends to come
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: to his house so they could give him naked massages
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: and so he could engage in sexual activities with them.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: The Florida Circuit Judge Lewis Delgado said that the transcripts
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: being released would absolutely outrage people. Details in the record,
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: he said, will be outrageous to decent people. The testimony
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: taken by the grand jury concerns activity ranging from grossly
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: unacceptable to rape. All of the conduct at issue is
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: sexually deviant, disgusting, and criminal. And as I said, with
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: all of that being known to prosecutors, they offered him
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: a sweetheart deal. He spent eighteen months in jail and
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: then spent the next ten years back in the community,
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: continuing with his sexual trafficking of young girls.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: So of course it begs the question, when they knew
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: all that, why on earth did he get such a
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: sweet sweet rit.
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: Let me think.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: I mean, this Jeffrey Epstein character was linked to a
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: lot of very important, powerful people in America. And of
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: course what this plea deal meant was that he avoided
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: federal charges. He only had to deal with state charges
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: because originally they were going him for the trafficking and rape.
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: And then in the end, I think.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: It was procuring a childer the age of sixteen for
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: under eighteen, sorry for prostitution, which was far more lenient.
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: But you know, you go into the logs of who
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: has flown to his island or his former ireland.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: I suppose because he's dead now, by the way, he
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: didn't kill himself. The Clinton's lots and lots of very
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: important people, politicians, entertainers.
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: The charity workers, everyone is on there right.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: So if you want to talk about a man who
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: is well connected or was well connected in America, you'd
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: be hard pressed to find better than Jeffrey Epps.
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: And Jeffrey was not a dumb guy.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: That's why he had all those contacts and why he
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: put people in compromising positions so that if the day
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: ever came that he needed to ring in a favor,
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: he was able to do it.
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: And you have to ask the question, is that what
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: he did for me?
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: This gives further merit to the long running speculation that
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: he was something of a CIA asset himself. He met
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: with the now director of the CIA several times. We
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: know that from Epstein's own personal diaries, and it was
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: Julian Assan who once sagely noted when Gilay Maxwell was
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: sentenced and everyone was like, oh, finally we've got someone
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: convicted over this terrible child sex trafficking ring and Epstein
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: Island and all the rest of Epstein's dead.
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: But at least we got her.
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: And everyone was asking, where the heck is the client list?
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: How has this woman been convicted of a crime for
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: which there seemingly was no.
• 26:02
  Speaker 8: Customers whatsoever, Even though the flight.
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: Logs, even to Epstein Island were known, there were names
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: on that people were going, people were making use of
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: his services.
• 26:15
  Speaker 7: I loved Julian.
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: Osange's quote because he said the reason why the FBI
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: will not and will never release Epstein's client list was
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: because their blackmail would then be useless. And they built
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: up this dossier of blackmail, and these incredibly powerful people
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: like you say, these are the kinds of people who
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: run the world. They were never going to release it
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: because all of a sudden, everything that they had on
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: these evil elites would be utterly useless. We wouldn't be
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: able to blackmail you with anything anymore.
• 26:49
  Speaker 7: So it's a lot of people will call.
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: That wild theory, but anyone who wants to read this
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: has been covered by mainstream media for a very long time, Dear,
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: that Epstein was in fact some sort of plan, and
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: that would explain why, even with these heinous crimes on
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: his record, he barely got a slap on the wrist
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: because they needed him to stay in the game, keep
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: doing what you're doing, so we can keep building this
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: DOSSI eight.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: And he maintained a lot of these contacts well after
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: he was convicted and sent to jail.
• 27:22
  Speaker 7: Indeed, tho it eight.
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: I mean, you know, you.
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: Can't forget the images of Prince Andrew walking around with
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: him in Central Park.
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: Well after that, these people remained frings with him, right indeed, And.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: You would think in your right mind that you wouldn't
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: hang around with a guy who is a convicted child
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: sex offender, right, But they continued to do it. And
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: you've got to ask the question again, what did he
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: have on these people that would cause them to not
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: just drop him like a ton of bricks and continue
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: hanging out with them.
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: It's it's all very curious.
• 27:56
  Speaker 7: It would also explain his suss death. As you just said, Epstein.
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: Just turned up himself in prison.
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, apparently no one was looking at the time, and
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: he had access to what he needed.
• 28:07
  Speaker 7: In order to take his own life.
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: And I don't know that sounds like what happens to
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: most assets when they stopped being an asset.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: He had massive video surveillance also in his house and
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: on the island and those.
• 28:19
  Speaker 7: And in the cell, but apparently.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Those exist any longer.
• 28:26
  Speaker 8: Incredible how that works, dear question.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Do you reckon we will ever get a client list
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: or any information about it? Or do you think this
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: will be something we're talking about like the death of JFK.
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: Maybe in thirty years time, maister.
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: Maybe in thirty years time, after everyone's dead and there's
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: absolutely no one left to prosecute.
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: Much like the.
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: Incredible book that I've referred to several times now, a
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: book by Tom O'Neil called Chaos, and he went into
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: the CIA.
• 28:51
  Speaker 7: Chaos. He is a CIA operation name.
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: He went into what he calls the secret history of
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: the CIA. But he got to find out what he
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: found out.
• 29:01
  Speaker 7: Because it was thirty years in the past and.
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: So people were a lot more forthcoming with records. He
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: also got access to records which others then denied that
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: they'd given him access to when everyone had been like
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: you should never have been amongst those files. He was
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: simply asked to write an article, and twenty years later
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: the story had consumed his life. It is an incredible book,
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: but yeah, I think maybe thirty years from now, maybe
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: even longer, when well, it doesn't really matter anymore, does it.
• 29:30
  Speaker 7: Everyone's dead. The truth comes out inevitably and.
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: It's always too late. Unfortunately, that's the saddest part of
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: it all.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: Let's go to Europe now, where Victor ubarn the Hungarian
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: Prime Minister, has been made the new President of the
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: European Union.
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: And he's not going in there to play EU games.
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: He's going in there to clean the joint up. Now,
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: in the lead.
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: Up to the EU elections, which of course we had
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: last month, he put on X National, conservative, sovereigntist and
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: Christian forces are on the rise across Europe. Don't represent
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: progressive ideas, we represent the people. We are the worst
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: nightmare of the Brussels bureaucrats. We will win the European
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: elections this June, and they did and will occupy Brussels.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: Hashtag make Europe great again. Well, he's on his way
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: in there. He's about to make Europe great again. This
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: is how he's announced it just screams badass, doesn't it,
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: And it's good.
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: We need someone like this at the EU to shake
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: things up a bit.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: I just hope that over the next few years that
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: joint gets the absolute living hell shaken out of it,
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: because of course Ferajs tried to do that for a
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: long time when he was there, but he was sort
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: of like a lone voice on the back benches, you know,
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: screaming against the rest of them. But now that you've
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: had this great right wing push into the EU, maybe
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: we'll actually start to see some change, especially with a
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: bloke like allbarn help.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: So the presidency of the Council of Ministers in the EU,
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: it's on a six month roditating thing, right, But the
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: evidence that he is a good conservative leader is seen
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: in the fact that so many were trying to stop
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Hungry from having their turn and finding all manner.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: Of excuses not to have in there. And I love
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: the way he's.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Not mega, he's mega.
• 31:42
  Speaker 8: And everyone's like, look, he's like Trump, he's a populist,
• 31:46
  Speaker 8: and all the people said kind ashamed of it.
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: So if you think you're insulting him by pointing it out,
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: he's helping you.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: But I mean what's a populist, someone who believes in
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: national borders, someone who believes in preserving the Christian heritage
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: of Europe. And if you believe in those two things,
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: or you're a danger to it says a lot about
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Brussels when those things are seen as somehow an impediment.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Australia has announced that for the first time since the
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: nineteen nineties, we've had a decrease in life expectancy. Now
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: it's only by zero point one years, but as I said,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: for the first time in about thirty years, life expectancy
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: in this country has decreased. That's according to the Australian
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Institute of Health and Welfare, who listed the top five
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: causes of death in twenty twenty two as coronary heart disease, dementia, COVID,
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: nineteen cerebra vascular disease and lung cancer. It should be
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: said we still have the fourth highest life expectancy at
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: birth in the world, after only Japan, Korea and Switzerland,
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: but life expectancy did go down for the first time
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: in many years. They attribute that to COVID, saying that
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: half the excess deaths in twenty twenty two would because
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: of COVID nineteen.
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, indeed, and look, I mean you know that point
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: one of a year. Let's be frank, I mean that's
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: time when I could be drinking red wine. I want
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: that point one of a year. They did miss on
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: the top five list. Here though, that premiers and chief
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: Health officers should have been there because watching their presses
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: every day for two bloody years saptis of the will
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: to live.
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: And that was why we all cut it.
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: But all I can say is that the inquiry that
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: has now been mooted in terms of the causes of
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: the excess death rate which has shot up in Australia
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: and across the world, cannot come soon.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: They've had enough right that the Senate have heard that evidence.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: They allocated one day to it.
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: That's why I'm sorry. I didn't even know what had happened.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: And it's a great point because most of the country
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: doesn't know it happened. Senator Ralph Berbett pushed. I think
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: it was on his fourth time he finally convinced the
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Senate to have this inquiry. The Senate voted thirty one
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: to thirty in favor of inquiring to excess deaths. They
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: allowed only about four weeks for submissions, which wasn't anywhere
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: near enough, and devoted one day to trying to find
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: out why are more Australians dying than should be.
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: Well, I understand that report's going to be handed down
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: in August, and I hope that everyone tunes in for
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: it because I'm fascinated to here.
• 34:22
  Speaker 7: I mean, when we have.
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: An eighteen percent excess death rate, that's where it's at now.
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: It's only been on the climb since it was brought
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: to our attention by the Actuaries Society months ago. Then
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: it was more like thirteen percent. I believe, if memory serves,
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: it's only been climbing. This is something that we desperately
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: need an answer to.
• 34:42
  Speaker 7: We haven't had an excess.
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: Death rate like this since World War II, and that
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: certainly wasn't a mystery as to how we'd lost lives.
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: So finally the Senate has very begrudgingly agreed to look
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: into this and we're going to get that report handed
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: down in August.
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: I know albe all e.
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: Is because that was my I first thought when I
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: read this as well, in terms of life expectancy in Australia,
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: the age dropping, I instantly went to excess mortality and
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: just thought, well, naturally that's going to bump it down,
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: isn't it.
• 35:11
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: Can I just say, though, so that they're saying that
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: COVID is the third biggest killer or was the third
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: biggest killer in the country, given that the rate of
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: life expectancy or the life expectancy is only reduced by
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: point one of a year, would that not prove what
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: we were all saying from the beginning that COVID was
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: really only a danger to.
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: You if you were an old person.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: Right, because you would expect to see chromerbid it is, Yeah,
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: because you would expect to see if it was killing
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: young people on mass that you'd have a much starker
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: decrease in the life expectancy, right, But that hasn't happened.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: So does that not prove that COVID for most people
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: was reasonably fun.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: But won't the counter argument be No, it would have
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: been shocking except for the vaccine lockdown that set. So
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: that would be the counter. Whether we agree with that
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: or not, but that'd be the counter. We're going to
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: go to a break. When we come back, we'll look
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: at what the papers are saying, including a massive exclusive
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: on the front page of Tomorrow's Australian about the death
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: of Cardinal George Pell.
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  Speaker 3: That's coming up in a month.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back, well, Liz, there's an exclusive on the front
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  Speaker 2: page of Tomorrow's Australian that is particularly fascinating.
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  Speaker 5: Indeed, and I'm so glad somebody's onto this because I
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: can't be the only person who when Cardinal Pell suddenly
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: died at the age of eighty one after undergoing a
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: hip operation in Rome, well it just didn't quite make
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: much sense to me. But it turns out his mate
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: is on the case. The front splash reads Pell's death
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: shrouded in mystery. Former Vatican auditor vows to get to
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: the truth. The Vatican's first Auditor General, Liberal Maloney, has
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: described the death of cut Donald Pell as shrouded in
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: mystery and revealed he made a heartfelt vow to get
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: to the truth for his colleague while paying final respects
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: at his.
• 37:08
  Speaker 7: Coffin in Rome.
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: Malorney, a foremer partner with multinational accounting giant Deloitte, is
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: the only man left alive of the high powered trio
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: led by Pell, who launched Pope Francis's reforms of the
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: Holy Sees corrupt sclerotic financial systems. The article goes on
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: to relay the most remarkable story about how these three
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: men were going through the Vatican's' finances with a fine toothcomb,
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: finding plenty of things that weren't so great. They were
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: then unceremoniously fired. The two remaining and their officers were
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: broken into by Vatican police. They confiscated electronic equipment, forced
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: open a safe with axes, crowbars, sledgehammers, chisels, and power drills.
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: It reads like something out of a true true crime novel.
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: But this guy's story is truly extraordinary.
• 38:05
  Speaker 7: And can I just say.
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: Power to his arm because I thought that that needed
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: looking into as well, given the timing of his passing
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: and that we were told it was a cardiac arrest
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: after a hip operation.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Well, the article goes on to say that Cardinal Pearl
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: was warned, don't have the hip operation in Rome, come
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: back to Australia.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: For the operation.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: The article also says that his casket was closed at
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: the funeral, which everyone thought was very unusual that it
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: would be closed, and the autopsy wasn't done properly either.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: So there's a lot in this piece and I dare
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: say it's not the last word we'll hear on this.
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: No, Well, I mean he made a lot of enemies
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: in the Vatican because he was trying to clean the
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: joint and in Victoria, which is.
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: Another reason why they tried to take him out with
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: these sexual action.
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: And this you'll remember allegations of people at the Vatican
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: allegedly conspiring with the vict Torrian police to trump stuff
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: up to try and get him because they were that
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: worried about what he was doing and what he was uncovering.
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: You'd be stupid not to be asking questions about the
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: circumstances of his death.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Let's go to the front page of Tomorrow's Daily Telegraph.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: The main story there relates to the Sydney Uni stabbing
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: teen influenced.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: By salad bar of ideologies.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: The headline says from Tate that's Andrew Tate to terror.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: A fourteen year old boy accused of stabbing a student
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: in the neck at the University of Sydney yesterday was
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: allegedly influenced by a salid bar of ideologies and is
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: a keen follower of controversial streamer Andrew Tait. The teen
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: had been enrolled in a deradicalization program.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: So there's a little bit to unpack there.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: This fourteen year old was charged last year after an
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: alleged plan to stage a quote christ Church terror like
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: attack on a Sydney school. Those charges were dropped in
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: February because of what they said were mental health issues.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: He was apparently placed into a deradicalization program, and now
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: this alleged attack has taken place. What's interesting to me
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: is salid bar And I'm commenting more on the reporting
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: of this now rather than the allegations, because that's what
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: they are, their allegations. But you've got a salad bar
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: of ideologies and the only one they mention is Andrew Tate.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: I'm no fan of Andrew Tate at all, but I
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: just found that interesting that that's the one they list.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: What were all the others? Why do we only have
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: that one?
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: I find this absolutely discussing reporting by the Daily Telegraph
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: honestly do better.
• 40:39
  Speaker 7: So apparently salad bar of ideologies.
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: But the headline literally reads from Tate to Terra, how
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: dare you?
• 40:48
  Speaker 7: How dare you?
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: Pin?
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: Whatever this kid was up to on a guy oceans
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: away whose videos he might have watched. Why is it
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: that in today's society we have bought into this. What
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: I believe stupid notion is that I can go out
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: do whatever I really want to and then be like, well,
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: Caleb Bond said such and such on the Late Debate
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: last week, and now you're under fire for it.
• 41:13
  Speaker 7: You'll be in the headlines splash. I mean, there's a
• 41:16
  Speaker 7: lot to.
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: Be said for Andrew Tate, good and bad, but ultimately
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: I don't believe he's a terrible role model. He's certainly
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: not the limpristed losers that most men have to look
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: up to because society can't.
• 41:29
  Speaker 7: Offer any better these days.
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: He is extremely militant and one would say ultra masculine,
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: but I find him utterly hilarious mostly.
• 41:38
  Speaker 7: And if it.
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: Became if it came between having my son look up
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: to the Minister for Men's Behavioral Change of Victoria or
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: Andrew Tate, I know who the heck I'd be picking.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: It's just Celid bar and that's what they go with it.
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: It's just unjust.
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: It is unjust to pin this on Tate and to
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: feature his picture on the front page of the Daily Telegraph.
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: They've already admitted that this young man struggles with mental
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: health issues, and yet you found a way to twist
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: this into oh Andrew Tate's fault Andrew Tates inspiration just nonsense.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: I think it's just alliteration. Take terror. It works.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: Let's go the other article on the front page. There
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: workers teed off on Fridays.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: I like this story.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Employees working from home are slacking off at the end
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: of the week, taking long lunches and hosting virtual meetings
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: at the Driving Range as Sydney CBD is flatlining, with
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: close to one thousand office and retail spaces laying empty.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: The article goes on to say that most people are
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: choosing to work from home on Mondays and Fridays, making
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: all of their office meetings on Tuesday, Wednesdays, Thursdays. Well,
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know why that's controversial. It would be controversial
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: if people weren't doing that, Caleb, that makes perfect sense.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: I'm going to say, I don't mind the idea of
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: taking meetings from the driving Range.
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: Look, I have railed, as.
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: You would well know, and many of our viewers would
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: well know. I have railed against working from home for
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: quite some time. But there's one part of this that
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: I really like, and that's the people are taking long
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: lunches on a Friday, because I think the decline of
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: the West is like literally a linear line from when
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: long lunches went out of fashion.
• 43:16
  Speaker 6: The decline started there.
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: It was all thanks to Paul Keating when he brought
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: in the cap not the capital gains tax, the fringe
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: benefits tax, which has discouraged businesses from punting up money
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: for people to be able to go out and have
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: a bit of fun on an expense account. Now, bring
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: back the long lunch. That's where deals are done. That
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: is where business is done. It's where as a reporter
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: I would get good stories on a Friday afternoon over
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: a few bottles of red and then into the pub
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: afterwards for a few more pints. I came out of
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: that with more yarns than I ever did sitting at
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: my desk.
• 43:51
  Speaker 6: Bring back the long lunch.
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: It's what made Australia great, It's what made the West great.
• 43:57
  Speaker 6: As far as I'm concerned, anyway, do I agree with me?
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to argue with any of that. I
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: think it made perfect.
• 44:02
  Speaker 6: So I want to attend one of these.
• 44:04
  Speaker 7: It sounds fay, Oh yeah.
• 44:06
  Speaker 6: Look at the long lunch.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: Anyone wants to.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: I can't believe you just argued for long lunches and
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: it would increase productivity.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: Absolute, absolutely believe it does increase productivity because.
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: At the very least as well relationships at work between businesses.
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: We're sitting down with people from your firm, et cetera,
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: and so on.
• 44:24
  Speaker 7: It's a very bonding experience. It's how business is done.
• 44:27
  Speaker 7: For literally, if I want to.
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: Get a deal, real estate deals get done on the
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: golf tep.
• 44:32
  Speaker 6: Do you want to get a deal done? Do you reckon?
• 44:35
  Speaker 6: You're going to get a better outcome.
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: Sitting in a sterile office or having a meal with
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: someone and a few glasses of wine. I mean, once
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: they loosen up, a few glasses of wine, just.
• 44:44
  Speaker 6: Naming your figure. It's how business works.
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: Let's go to the Newcastle Herald tomorrow where it's is
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: body cams for staff on hospital front line. Body cams
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: are the latest weapon in the battle against the rising
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: number of assaults in public hospitals, including John Hunt Hospital.
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: Almost ten Hunter, New England based doctors, nurses and other
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: staff were physically assaulted every week during twenty twenty three,
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: a total of five hundred and fourteen, and we talked
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: last night at the story of a paramedic in Victoria
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: who drove an ambulance off the road after an eighteen
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: odd hour shift. You've got nurses in hospitals being belted
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: and pelted for simply doing their jobs. These poor baggers
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: do not get paid enough.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: We've got two big problems in hospitals.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: One is we've got a lot of people who are
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: drug affected turning up at emergency departments, and everyone when
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: they turn up to an emergency department gets frustrated. Now
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: that doesn't excuse violent behavior, but people get frustrated because
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: the weight is so incredibly long.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: We're going to go to a break when we come back.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: A Melbourne real.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Estate agent who's got a unique sales pitch. He reckons
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: he's the best looking agent in Melbourne and that's why
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: you need him to sell your house. Welcome back, Well, Liz,
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: everyone's wondering if it's not Biden for president, who's it
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: going to be.
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: Indeed, after Friday Night's dismal debate performance, everyone's a flutter.
• 46:08
  Speaker 7: It's pretty much not a.
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: Question of if Biden will step down, but when will
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: he and who will step into those shoes. Well, Saturday
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: Night Live decided to give us some insight into what's
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: going on within the Democratic ranks right now.
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: But if Biden's not going to run, who will, in thought.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: The jeeriff whizover, I don't know, I don't know.
• 46:35
  Speaker 7: Come on, there's going to be so he's coy.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: Lit their foul, the producers of Smile and the twisted
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: minds of Morning Joe.
• 47:00
  Speaker 7: A superstar cooking all the where.
• 47:11
  Speaker 8: I mean, other than the oft quoted Michelle Obama, Michelle
• 47:14
  Speaker 8: Obama for the White House.
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: They really don't have a star crop to choose from.
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: Like a star crop to me, that looks very Look,
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: I'm just glad to see Snel actually doing something decent
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: a right lately.
• 47:27
  Speaker 6: You know, Well, a broken clock is right twice a
• 47:30
  Speaker 6: day now. Look at six years old, I said.
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: On national television that I wanted to be a real
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: estate agent, and in fact it's six years old. On
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: national television I sold a house. So I thought that
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: I had the title of the best looking real estate
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: agent in the country.
• 47:45
  Speaker 6: Well, no, there's a bloke down in Melbourne, Noah res I.
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: He put an ad on the back of a bus
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: saying that he is the best looking agent in Melbourne,
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: and that that is why you should buy a house
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: from him or sell a house with him. You know,
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: they took about looking like the back end of a bus,
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: So I don't know that I would have gone for
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: that option myself.
• 48:04
  Speaker 6: But here he is explaining why he did it.
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: Oh.
• 48:08
  Speaker 14: I always get comments from all the girls at the
• 48:11
  Speaker 14: office and most importantly by my mum, always saying that
• 48:15
  Speaker 14: I'm the best looking agent in the area and the funniest.
• 48:18
  Speaker 14: So that from the girls and the team at their office,
• 48:22
  Speaker 14: they thought it would be a good idea for us
• 48:24
  Speaker 14: to stick it on our bus, just to be a
• 48:26
  Speaker 14: little bit cheeky and different.
• 48:29
  Speaker 6: Now.
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: Look, I get compliments from girls in the office as well,
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: but I don't come on with it.
• 48:34
  Speaker 6: I don't come on with a super under my name
• 48:36
  Speaker 6: that she is best looking TV host on But.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: He's not just the best looking, he's also the funniest
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: and he can prove it because he's.
• 48:43
  Speaker 7: Mum, his mum. He knows he's hamming it up and
• 48:47
  Speaker 7: it works. We're talking about it.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: That's it from us. We've got to go, but stick around.
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: Coming up is the Reader Penney Show.