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E17: Navigating Judgments: Personal vs. Righteous · The Junto Podcast

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  Music.
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  Hello, America. Welcome to the Junto Podcast, where we promote the practical
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  applications of critical thinking and bold creativity.
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  I am your host, Edgar Mills. Thanks for joining us.
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  Music.
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  Hello, America. Welcome to episode 17, entitled, Navigating Personal and Righteous
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  Judgment. Yep, that does that seem ambiguous?
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  I'm not sure a couple of things prompted this episode And and we'll get into
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  those things, but i'm just gonna just jump right in.
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  I got pages and pages of notes here So so navigating personal judgment versus
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  righteous judgment We We live in a world of endless opinions.
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  I have plenty of them everyone out there has opinions on things,
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  and the things that How do we discern among those things what we are mostly
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  applying our biases to versus some kind of standard that we form an opinion
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  against or philosophy or faith or whatever?
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  How do we come to our opinions, for one?
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  And then, in what fashion are we not imposing, but sharing those opinions?
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  And based on those opinions, are we being judgmental?
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  I don't know. We'll see. We're going to kind of juxtapose.
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  Now, when I say Christianity and Christian faith, understand that I'm speaking as an individual.
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  I am not a biblical scholar. I'm not even that smart on the Bible.
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  I can do some research here and there.
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  Yeah, so understand that Edgar Mills does not speak for Christians when I'm
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  speaking from a Christian perspective.
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  That's just my own Christianity speaking, right?
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  And then we're going to juxtapose the Christian sort of perspective versus the
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  secular sort of perspective based on, you know, ancient philosophies or...
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  Academia and things like that. And we're going to see, we'll see how it goes.
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  So let's clarify, right?
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  Personal judgment comes across most of the time as hypocritical.
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  And kind of self-serving. There are people out there who just love to criticize
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  other people or love to put other people down.
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  And those people, yes, often are hypocrites.
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  So that's kind of straight off the bat.
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  When I say personal judgment, that's immediately, it kind of goes negative straight away.
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  We're all very quick to point fingers without checking ourselves,
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  you know? So, and then on the flip side of that is the righteous judgment.
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  That's about legitimate discerning right from wrong based on,
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  well, biblical principles or just philosophical principles that are from a place of humility, right?
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  And fairness and things like that. So the righteous judgment is usually more positive, I would say,
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  in the sense that it's meant to help, to help either change a way of thinking
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  or to help you get out of a hole,
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  to help in general, right, in a positive sense, versus the personal judgment
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  where it's meant to just critique and bring you down.
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  And sort of from a Christian lens, personal judgment, well, everybody,
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  even non-Christians, right?
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  People who have never gone to church have heard somebody say,
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  you should remove the plank from your own eye before you pick the speck out of someone else's eye.
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  Well, that's from the Bible, obviously, right?
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  And yes, that's true. but that
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  being said we we don't we all
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  got specks and planks in our eyes if we even though we're not perfect if we
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  see one of our friends and homies and loved ones going in a bad way we can help
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  them but it's about avoiding the hypocrisy folks it's not about whether or not
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  you're pointing out something that's potentially harmful it's about point.
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  Because you should point out things that are potentially harmful.
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  But it's about avoiding the hypocrisy. And nothing burns me up more than hypocrisy.
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  Because none of us, folks, not one on this planet of earth is without sin from
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  a biblical perspective.
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  Now, if you're a secular, if you're a hedonist and whatever,
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  and you don't recognize sin as sin, that's fine too.
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  But there are things that are bad. and you have to derive your sense of right
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  and wrong from somewhere.
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  And usually those are found in biblical truths, whether you strayed away from it or not.
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  That's usually the foundation of most of our value systems here in America.
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  From a secular perspective, though, it's kind of more about a moral philosophy
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  where if you pass personal judgment on somebody,
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  It's usually some kind of prejudice or bias that you're passing off.
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  And it's usually, like most things, rooted in some kind of emotional reaction
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  rather than sort of a well-thought-out, logical, reasoned, ethics-based observation.
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  And if you're thinking in a utilitarian sort of
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  way where judgment judgments are kind of
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  weighed on the outcome on the
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  outcomes of of a thing right well was me boozing and drinking and driving home
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  bad well i made it home okay and nobody was hurt so it was okay but self-interest
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  creeps in because we do know that's bad but then we're saying bye but everybody
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  was okay it's it's kind of flawed Decision making,
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  When you When you look at it From that perspective And I.
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  Again, the moral decision-making process that does have a foundation somewhere else.
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  Well, we don't want to ignore sort of an overall equality or fairness when it
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  comes to passing judgment on people from a secular perspective.
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  Back to righteous judgment.
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  The Bible tells us not to judge by appearances, but with righteous judgment, right?
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  And what that focuses on is truth to help to restore somebody to their faith
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  or to protect somebody from going further astray.
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  And whereas in secular sort of thought process or ethics, righteous judgment
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  is kind of likened to principled moral discernment when it comes in philosophy, right?
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  Where judgments are kind of duty, like it's our duty to judge based on justice
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  and fairness without any personal vendettas, right?
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  Taking our own personal vendettas, our own personal biases out of it.
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  So, though it be biblical or secular, there's still sort of very similar lines
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  of thinking when it comes to righteous judgment and when it comes to personal judgment.
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  So, there's a lot of Muldoons out there who are very judgmental.
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  And I say this a lot, you know, in the special operations community when I was
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  in the military, there's a lot of judgmental dudes.
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  You know what I mean? These super fit dudes that do all these things,
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  and they're super fit, and they're good looking, and they got the awesome eating
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  program, and they did whatever, man. Superheroes.
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  Some of them like to be judgmental. A lot of them like to be judgmental.
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  And then, you know what? Never mind that.
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  Religiously, man, some of those folks are very judgmental, and it ain't righteous.
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  It ain't righteous it's very much a i'm better than you sort of mentality and
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  and that's no good either folks that's no good either the i'm better than you
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  thing that's something to,
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  that's not something to flaunt or to flex on other people that's something to
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  be held if you genuinely believe you're better than somebody on the on the foundation
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  of fitness and lethality and intelligence, you know, that's great.
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  But what should your, not judgment, you shouldn't be passing judgment.
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  If you're that great and you're that awesome, it's kind of your duty to help
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  people get to where you're at.
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  Anyway, we're not necessarily talking about individuals here.
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  We're going to talk about some movements a little bit, some of these activists
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  and kind of leftist organizations.
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  For those of you who don't know, and I say this on nearly every episode,
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  I'm a libertarian by politics.
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  I have equally strong critique of both sides of the red and blue,
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  but I do have a particular disdain for Marxism and the communist ideologies,
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  and those usually fall on the left side of that aisle.
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  But again i also hate the hypocrisy and we see that well we see that on both
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  sides of the aisle but it's very it's very magnified on the red side of the aisle.
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  So now we're going to look at and we're going to juxtapose tolerance versus
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  acceptance versus support and and kind of bat these off of christian and secular
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  perspectives and these words get thrown around a lot, tolerance and acceptance.
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  And support is kind of cut and dry, right? But tolerance versus acceptance.
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  They get thrown around a lot, but those words are not interchangeable,
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  good people. Those words are not interchangeable.
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  There's a difference, and there's a significant difference.
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  And here's how I'll explain them while trying to blend faith-based kind of insights
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  and with academic philosophies.
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  Just in general, the definition of tolerance is basically it's putting up with
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  something that you disagree with without interfering while still being engaged, right?
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  It's not necessarily about not taking a stand or being wishy-washy or being lukewarm on a thing.
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  It's respecting the differences that
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  you have with someone else and without you
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  endorsing those differences you don't have to necessarily like
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  a thing that someone does but you tolerate things that in your mind and you
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  should tolerate things and and the metric on when you stop tolerating those
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  things is does that thing is
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  that strong enough to compel me to part ways with this other human being.
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  Now that's, that's a pretty heavy metric, right? But especially family members,
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  especially family members, if they do a thing that you don't like,
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  and it kind of conflicts with your faith or it conflicts with your moral fiber
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  and you think it's wrong, but this person you've known and loved your whole life,
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  is it strong enough for you to cut ties with those, that person.
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  And if it's not, then guess what? You should tolerate what that person's doing.
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  And we'll get to it here in a second. I know some of you are asking already,
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  well, why don't we help change these people?
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  We tolerate a lot of stuff in our life already as it is, right?
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  And there are things worth taking a stand on. There are many things worth taking
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  a stand on, in my opinion.
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  But I'm kind of talking about personal relationships right now.
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  Friendships relationship you know
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  family relationships especially is the thing that this person does intolerable
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  is it a thing that you you would rather part ways with this person and cut ties
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  rather than tolerate their behavior or their whatever whatever idiosyncrasy it is.
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  Think about that. Now, you know what? I didn't plan to put this in there,
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  but I'm going to put it in there.
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  When I was young, I'm not going to say how young, and I'm not going to go into
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  great detail in this relationship.
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  But when I was young, I had a relationship with a black girl.
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  And also when I was young, my dad, God rest his soul, my dad was a bit of a racist character.
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  And you can now i i happen
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  to know that my dad was not truly
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  racist in his heart but yeah i kind of came up there was racism right my dad
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  came you know i was back and forth with my mom and dad throughout my youth they
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  did they divorced when i was young but my dad came over one day,
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  unannounced when I had my black girlfriend at, at the apartment.
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  And I got news for you folks. We were, we were doing what young people do.
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  And my dad was, he was, he was trying to peek at it.
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  Cause I just cracked the door. Hey dad, what's up, man? What are you, what are you doing?
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  Yeah. It was an awkward moment, but guess what? My dad loved me, right?
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  He tolerated what he saw as wrong.
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  And now that was wrong on multiple levels, but it wasn't because she was black
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  for sure. It was because we were young and unsupervised.
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  But in my dad's mind, he was disappointed that I was with a black girl, which is ironic.
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  And I'll get to that story on another podcast. Okay. So at any rate,
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  that was just a little personal anecdote there. I'm sorry. Let me pick up where I'm at.
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  Is what the person is doing enough for you to break contact with them and that
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  you can no longer tolerate it?
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  There has to be a high standard for that, especially with family members.
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  That's my opinion on that.
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  That's my opinion. So putting up with something that you disagree with without
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  interfering while still being engaged. Right.
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  So from a Christian perspective, the term comes to mind and you you've all heard
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  it before. Love the sinner and hate the sin.
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  I mean, that that to me is correct. And what's one of the biblical sort of examples
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  there is Jesus. Because he was hanging out with tax collectors,
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  but all the time telling them they needed to repent, correct?
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  So you can do a thing at some point from a Christian perspective.
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  I mean, you have to repent.
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  I mean, you have to have a realization that the thing you're doing is bad and understand why.
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  And make a solid choice not to do the bad thing anymore.
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  And as a christian as you are sort of
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  sort of loving the
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  sinner and hating the sin you have to mind yourself
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  because the way you react to things has a big impact on on how that's going
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  to play out as the christian all right as the as the the calm cool and collected
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  one you need to be humble and you need to be patient and you need to bear with
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  especially your family members.
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  Out of love is what the Bible calls for. That's it, out of love.
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  And I'm not going to mention the word grace again throughout this,
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  but there's kind of a thing within the church and the Christian community and all.
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  There's churches that want to show grace to everyone, which is fine,
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  but some of them cross the line into acceptance of not the individual,
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  but the behavior, right? And the Episcopal has come to mind on that.
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  But I don't know enough about that to carry on. So I'm going to stick on my script here.
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  At some point, you got to draw the line though, right? At some point,
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  grace becomes like an endorsement.
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  And you can't do that as the church. You can't do that.
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  From a secular perspective, philosophy kind of defines tolerance as conditional acceptance.
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  You're you're bearing with something with different
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  beliefs emphasizing sort of neutrality
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  like not taking a stand on the thing in
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  the name of peace you know what i mean social peace or peace amongst yourselves
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  depending on who it is the stanford encyclopedia frames it as putting up with
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  practices without interference to foster cooperation despite disagreements so it's the same.
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  That's what tolerance is. You don't care for the practice that you're going
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  to put up with it to maintain the peace.
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  To maintain some cooperation or some other mutual benefit.
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  In family, for sure, you need to be tolerant. But also often in business,
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  right, you'll tolerate someone or at work.
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  You'll tolerate a policy or a person or a certain behavior just to keep the
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  peace or for mutual financial gain or simply not to get fired because you may be the minority on that.
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  You know, academics, the philosophy and ethics, secular ethics,
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  sort of see it as a sort of a virtue to be tolerant and to for the peaceful coexistence.
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  Now, again, tolerance doesn't mean indifference, folks. You don't you can have
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  an opinion about a thing and make but you can still make the deliberate choice
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  to to put up with that thing just to maintain harmony. Right.
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  Again, you can have the opinion. and the idea about a thing.
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  And at some point, for some people, there's a breaking point.
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  And when they break, they've made that decision that this is no longer tolerable.
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  And then they cut away and that's your black sheep uncle or aunt that you haven't
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  seen for decades because your mom and your uncle got in a fight or whatever.
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  Or you just break with a business. my mom once quit a job.
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  I'll tell you now, my mom was a lesbian. She came out when I was about 17, I think.
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  And my mom, for those of you who know me and who knew young me,
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  younger me, I'm a very aggressive, very confrontational person.
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  Well, I get all of that exactly from my mother.
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  And, and she, and she was the champ.
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  She was a hard woman and she was a champ and she would, she was ready to fight,
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  you know, pretty quick on things.
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  And anyway, my mother who, she worked at a prominent auto auction and she was
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  like the man standing next to the man.
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  She was like number two for that auto auction.
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  And it was a pretty, I mean, it was a, it was a good job. She made a lot of money.
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  And she enjoyed doing it, and she did it well.
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  The boss, she was the man next to the man.
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  Well, the man made an off-color lesbian joke in my mom's presence one day,
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  and that ended that relationship.
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  That ended that job because she MF'd him up and down, cursed him out every which
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  way but loose, and packed her stuff and beat feet.
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  And that that was that was my mom that's how she did business she
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  didn't tolerate a bunch of bullshit
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  she didn't tolerate it yeah she
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  didn't tolerate it at all and they tolerated her everybody knew she was gay
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  the boss knew she was gay he thought he was being funny i'm sure he thought
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  he was being clever and cute yeah she didn't she wasn't having it so we tolerate
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  things to to keep the peace.
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  We tolerate things to maintain relationships, sometimes just for mutual gain.
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  And there's nothing wrong with it. It's okay to be tolerant. You should be tolerant.
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  And you should have a pretty, you know, wide, wide berth there.
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  Now we're going to go into acceptance. Now this steps it up a notch,
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  right? Accepting a thing.
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  You're no longer just, just tolerating
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  it and and not interfering right you're now affirming a thing or normalizing
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  this thing and that's a that's a slippery slope from the christian perspective
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  because now you're at risk of kind of kind of approving and and endorsing sin
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  if you accept something right.
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  And this is where we get crazy with the church and the gay community.
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  Because the church, biblically, yes, homosexuality is a sin.
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  The church says that marriage is between a man and a woman.
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  Now, I'll refer you back several episodes to my opinion.
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  Well, I don't care that a man marries a man or a woman marries a woman.
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  If it's according to whatever religious beliefs you have. I believe that marriage
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  is a religious institution, not a state institution.
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  So if you go to some bizarro church, if you go to a Wiccan church,
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  now, look, yes, do I think that's your sin and all that? Yeah, sure.
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  But look, who am I to judge? That's what we're here about right now.
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  But to me, marriage is between whatever spiritual or religious or whatever.
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  I don't care if you go to a shaman out in the middle of the woods somewhere,
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  if that shaman, you know, if you guys smoke the peace pipe and get naked and
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  do whatever, and he says you're married, you're married.
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  If you believe you're married, as far as your faith goes, whatever that faith
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  is in, to me, you're married.
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  It's semantics, in my opinion. And the Christian faith, which I'm a part of,
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  yeah, your marriage is ordained by God.
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  Unfortunately, still, I had to go to Georgia to get a marriage license for some
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  reason. Unknown to me still.
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  Now, if you're a statist or if you work for the state, please reach out.
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  Tell me the reason why Georgia needs to issue me a marriage certificate before I can get married.
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  Yep. Where am I? I lost my place, man. I go off on, on the state sticking its
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  face in where it doesn't belong.
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  Okay. As a Christian. Okay. Yeah, here we go. This is where the,
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  the gay community and the Christian community bump heads is,
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  is to, to accept for Christians to accept.
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  Now it's, it's almost like you're, uh, you're turning a blind eye to what you
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  know to be blatant wrongdoing and, uh,
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  Here's the trick, though. Now, again, folks, I'm not a Christian. I'm not a theologian.
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  All right. And I strongly lean on the New Testament and I strongly lean on specifically
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  the words written in red.
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  Jesus accepts people where they're at and then he guides them,
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  pushes them even for transformation.
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  He loves them and sticks with them, and they may or may not come out of their
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  sin. In most cases in the Bible, yes, they did.
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  If you want to be a real Christian, right, if you want to be a real solid,
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  rock-solid Christian, you can accept people where they're at without belittling,
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  without blatant, biased judgment, and simply, and the way I think to do it,
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  now this is just Edgar talking, is you live your example.
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  You simply live your life, and it's okay to occasionally say,
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  hey, look, yeah, Christ loves you.
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  You should consider and then move on.
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  You don't need to chastise. You don't need to finger point. You don't need all
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  that stuff. You don't need to do that.
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  We all know God works in mysterious ways. We all know that.
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  You be the example. Don't be the judge, jury, and the prosecutor.
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  There's only one, ultimately, who's going to do that, right?
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  From secular ethics, views acceptance as a full-on endorsement.
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  Full-on integration approval of the differences that and this plays out you know politics a lot.
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  Uh yeah it plays out in politics a lot but what it does though is when you when
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  you go into full-on acceptance of a thing that you disagree with or secretly
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  inwardly know to be wrong damn excuse me.
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  Something you inwardly know to be wrong.
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  Now you're blurring moral lines, right?
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  If you're now accepting a thing surface level and allowing these things to carry
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  on that you know to be wrong because those things,
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  as they gain steam, whatever thing you think is wrong, and let's use the example of the LGB community,
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  in the 80s and 90s, well, let's say 80s,
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  and back then when there were very vocal Christians saying that,
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  oh, if you let this slide and if this becomes normal, pedophilia is next.
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  Well, guess what, folks? You can like it or lump it, and I'm not pointing fingers at anyone.
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  I'm telling you right now, pedophilia has become prominent or more visible anyway.
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  And not only has it become more visible because of the internet and things like
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  that, there are people out there, and I wish I could remember this lady's name,
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  who now wants to classify pedophilia as a sexuality and not blatantly wrong
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  and harmful to children.
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  Now now we could do a whole nother podcast on
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  you know maturity level
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  and physical readiness for for sex and things like that but yeah there are people
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  out there calling for the normalization the acceptance of pedophilia using the
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  lgb community as the stepping stone or the civil rights as a stepping stone.
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  Now, I think most of us will agree that pedophilia is flat out wrong.
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  And no matter if you're the, whatever bizarro religious rituals from whatever bizarro religion,
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  if there's kids involved, they're doing it wrong.
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  I'll tell you that right now. And if that's got to do with some bizarre stuff
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  like removing foreskin and consuming it or whatever bizarre crap that is, that's wrong.
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  You got to stop it. You can't do it.
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  And I'm usually like live and let live. I don't even want to get into the circumcision thing.
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  Because if you say it's okay for a parent to make a decision to transition a
• 28:50
  child under the age of majority, but especially an adolescent.
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  Or if you say that's not okay, then you got to wonder why is circumcision okay?
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  I mean, they're not removing the genitals, but they're certainly doing a thing that the kid don't like.
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  And I don't know, you know, there's studies talking about the trauma that goes
• 29:12
  along with that, that's deeply embedded in the brain.
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  Because, yeah, obviously as an infant, you don't remember that stuff. But do you, though?
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  Did it leave some kind of deep trauma? was there some kind of literal chemical
• 29:27
  reaction in your brain from the amount of pain from some dude cutting off your
• 29:33
  foreskin and shortchanging you you know what i'm saying i got shortchanged,
• 29:38
  all right man damn i got i got off on a rant kids pedophilia bizarre religious ritual,
• 29:47
  involving children no none of it's okay and if and if you think it is please
• 29:53
  by all means If you have some kind of what you think is a legitimate academic
• 29:57
  argument of why it should be okay for adults to have sex with children,
• 30:03
  by all means, hit me up.
• 30:06
  Edgar Mills at OspreyShootingSolutions.com.
• 30:09
  And I will try my best with an open mind to hear what you have to say.
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  Chances are you're probably just mentally ill.
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  And already I'm condemning you, right? That's already turning you off.
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  Look, if there's someone out there listening to this who thinks that I'm going
• 30:26
  to listen to what you have to say, I will listen to what you have to say. All right.
• 30:31
  Blurred moral lines, acceptance, right? Acceptance.
• 30:35
  Do we have to accept a thing we don't like to maintain harmony? No, we don't.
• 30:41
  It's usually in our best interest to tolerate things because we're a free country
• 30:47
  and people should be allowed to do the things that they want to do as long as
• 30:50
  they don't infringe upon other people, right?
• 30:53
  As long as they don't hurt other people and take their stuff,
• 30:55
  as long as there's no coercion involved in some bullshit cult to where you mentally
• 31:03
  manipulate people or drug people or whatever to get them to follow your path.
• 31:09
  As long as there's no coercion, yeah, we're a free country. We should be able to do anything we want.
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  If you want to go worship the trees, go worship the trees. I happen to worship God.
• 31:19
  You may worship, I don't know, what's some of these other ones?
• 31:22
  Buddha, you may be a Buddhist or some of these other ancient sort of, or Hindu or whatever.
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  And i think still i and my i'm in
• 31:33
  my mind you're wrong but that's okay we're free
• 31:36
  to do that as long as you're not harming other people now we
• 31:40
  went from acceptance and we're going to slide into support folks support now
• 31:45
  this this this is outright promoting and enabling a thing whatever that is facilitating
• 31:51
  it and helping it to thrive and survive and i and i mentioned episcopals earlier.
• 31:57
  I want to say, I mean, they claim to be Christians, I think.
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  I'm not too up on this, and I don't want to drag people through the dirt,
• 32:06
  but I think they performed gay marriages in the church.
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  And the one I'm thinking about specifically, well, there's two that I'm thinking about specifically.
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  One is in like Virginia Highlands, I think, and then one is up near Morningside
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  Drive, I think, or Cheshire Bridge, up Piedmont, somewhere up there, there's a church.
• 32:27
  Pretty close to Fat Matt's Rib Shat. That's what I'm thinking about.
• 32:31
  And I think, you know, they do, they do like gay marriages and stuff like that.
• 32:35
  Now, Atlanta has a huge gay population for sure.
• 32:39
  But is that in line with biblical truth? Is that in line with biblical truth?
• 32:44
  And I don't think it is. Well, I know it's not.
• 32:48
  Let's see. Christians are called back to truth, yes. So when it comes to support,
• 32:53
  like at some point, yes, Christians do have to stand firm.
• 32:58
  And when we don't see this, by the way, this happens in foreign countries.
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  I want to say in Syria right now, good people, Christians are being murdered
• 33:07
  systematically in Syria.
• 33:10
  In Africa, in let's say, let's see, Congo, Central Africa for sure,
• 33:16
  up in that region anyway Cameroon maybe yeah.
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  Christians get murdered all the time and nobody bats an eye.
• 33:26
  Nobody seems to give a crap.
• 33:27
  And this ain't like, and look, folks, you're like, well, you shouldn't be over there anyway.
• 33:31
  This ain't white missionary Christians, white bread, Nebraska Christians going
• 33:37
  over to spread the gospel.
• 33:39
  This is Africans who have been Christianized, you know, freaking decades ago.
• 33:47
  And they're getting murdered systematically.
• 33:49
  And nobody cares. So Christians are called to back the truth and back the word of God.
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  And I know there's interpretations of the word of God, but generally speaking,
• 34:03
  there's a, there's sort of an overall sort of consensus.
• 34:07
  You got to, and for Christians, it's all about acknowledging and standing on
• 34:13
  God's design versus your truth.
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  And I'm doing your truth in quotation marks.
• 34:19
  There is no your truth folks. And I know that's a young generational thing.
• 34:24
  I don't know about millennials, but the Generation Z folks, I know there's a your truth out there.
• 34:31
  There is no your truth. There's your circumstance.
• 34:35
  But just because it's happened to you, don't make it the truth.
• 34:39
  Trust me on that. There's your circumstance. From a secular angle on that,
• 34:44
  philosophy sees support as an ethical sort of advocacy, right? Right.
• 34:50
  You're you're you're acknowledging that, yes, this is right and OK,
• 34:55
  but only if it's still, you know, kind of aligned with like they still there.
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  There still should be from a secular angle, you're still looking for things like justice. Right.
• 35:06
  Any blind support of anything is is bad.
• 35:09
  Any bad, any any anything that you don't know all about it.
• 35:15
  If you support a thing you don't know all about, and then those little fine prints get in there,
• 35:22
  those little secret dark spaces start opening up a little bit,
• 35:25
  and you realize you've aligned yourself with a thing that is horrible,
• 35:30
  and you've enabled some very wrong and very bad outcomes,
• 35:34
  then that's going to erode the societal or the greater good,
• 35:38
  which from a secular view, that's what, and especially from kind of a leftist
• 35:42
  view, it's all about the greater good, right?
• 35:45
  The greater good, the ends justify the means. The, what is it?
• 35:50
  Contract, social contract.
• 35:53
  So if you just outright, from a secular perspective, if you just blindly support
• 35:59
  a thing without knowing about that thing in great detail,
• 36:03
  whether it's a lifestyle or a philosophy or an activist group or whatever,
• 36:10
  a political group, when bad things start happening, You're...
• 36:16
  That is not for the greater good that starts to
• 36:18
  erode the greater good you're you're
• 36:22
  complicit man so you need to you need
• 36:24
  to know about these things not from a christian's perspective but like what
• 36:29
  is the end what is the mean end goal here what how do they achieve what they
• 36:35
  what they claim to to want and a lot of these political activist groups that
• 36:40
  popped up during the during the spring, what was the Arab spring?
• 36:44
  Remember that in 2014 or so?
• 36:48
  And then we have a, and then that began the sort of, it's okay to riot decade.
• 36:56
  It's been, it's okay to riot and destroy things.
• 36:59
  When you align yourself with groups like that, who are maybe started out as
• 37:03
  grassroots, but then just got taken over by, by big money interests and you're
• 37:08
  out looting and destroying property.
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  And you can't even say why. I mean, you're not a thinker at that point.
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  So there is a responsibility, folks. Even from a secular angle,
• 37:22
  you do have responsibility to know what you're supporting and to ensure that
• 37:30
  that support is, in fact,
• 37:33
  for the good of our society.
• 37:36
  All right. Man, that was a lot of stuff there.
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  So how do these things play out in real life and i've alluded to all these things,
• 37:46
  friendships or family how do these play out have you been in a situation where
• 37:51
  you you're at odds with somebody and you tolerate them do you have a friend
• 37:56
  do you have a close friend,
• 37:57
  who's like an alcoholic or a heavy drug user and they're all they're off the
• 38:02
  chain but you're you love them so you don't want you don't want to participate
• 38:06
  with that but you don't want to let them hurt themselves either?
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  I mean, think about that. Does that exist in your life?
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  Things play out in friendships or public policy or business.
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  One thing that comes to mind, you guys remember, I don't know,
• 38:23
  man, it kind of comes in and out, it's off and on, but back several years ago,
• 38:28
  Chick-fil-A made some public statement about traditional marriage or something like that.
• 38:33
  And then the LGB community lost
• 38:37
  it and they, oh, we're going to boycott Chick-fil-A and all those things.
• 38:43
  Yeah. I mean, sure. People say, vote with your dollars, vote with your feet, you know?
• 38:49
  And if you don't want to support a place that, that you don't,
• 38:52
  that is not all in for you, that does not fully support your whatever.
• 38:58
  Yeah. That's, that's your right to do it.
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  Is it correct for you to try to burn them down? And I don't mean physically burn.
• 39:05
  I mean like to try to ruin their business. Is that correct?
• 39:10
  Is that a correct response for them just saying, I believe in traditional marriage? Maybe not.
• 39:15
  Or retail stores, and this was similar timeframes, maybe a little later,
• 39:20
  with, I think, I want to say it was Target or somebody who was doing all this
• 39:23
  transgender youth stuff.
• 39:27
  And that was, you know, there's half the population that was aggrieved by that. and the same holds true.
• 39:36
  Do we need to burn Target down? Do we need to destroy Target?
• 39:39
  No, you vote with your feet. You vote with your dollars and see how it plays
• 39:44
  out. I don't need to slander Target.
• 39:48
  If Fox 5 Atlanta, hey, can you say your name? Hey, yeah, I'm Edgar.
• 39:54
  So what do you think about Target? I don't shop at Target.
• 39:58
  Yeah, it wouldn't be a very good news interview, would it yeah i don't shop
• 40:02
  at target that's it or i do shark or whatever now throw a twist in there what
• 40:08
  if they approached you and you're a gay man you go hey what do you think about
• 40:10
  chick-fil-a and you go i love chick-fil-a it's awesome.
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  Then you'd piss off half of your community or more.
• 40:18
  That's why we got to stop putting ourselves in these big teams and these big
• 40:22
  tribes and start kind of getting back to the individual, you know,
• 40:26
  working on our individual merits.
• 40:28
  Am I a good person? Am I gay?
• 40:31
  Maybe. But am I a good person? Am I polite?
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  Do I interact with people? Do I behave like a civilized human being?
• 40:37
  Am I productive at work or school or in my art?
• 40:42
  Do I create great things? do I build great houses you know get we need to get
• 40:48
  back and I'm going to get to that in a minute all right I'm going to get that
• 40:50
  in a minute what else what else what else what else the.
• 40:56
  When you're on these tribes and you have to believe the party line or you have to toe the line
• 41:01
  or be excommunicated from your tribe and and
• 41:05
  you have that it's all or nothing sort of
• 41:08
  mentality you're either an ally or
• 41:11
  an enemy man that's just such a
• 41:14
  negative bad way to
• 41:17
  to do business to be because you're
• 41:20
  cutting off literally half of the population that could potentially well could
• 41:26
  potentially be an ally if not for your cause for you as an individual right
• 41:32
  i have I have a few clients that are transgender and they're genuinely good human beings.
• 41:39
  And I don't necessarily support, I don't support a lot of things,
• 41:46
  but I don't necessarily, I tolerate and even accept them for sure.
• 41:53
  And to the point that I care about their wellbeing.
• 41:56
  I care about their wellbeing. I mean, physical well-being, mental well-being,
• 42:02
  their emotional well-being, their financial, all these things.
• 42:08
  I genuinely care about them. And I disagree with kind of the sort of the lifestyle
• 42:14
  in their mind that they are what they are.
• 42:18
  And probably in their mind, they're living their truth. I consider it to be
• 42:22
  their circumstance. However, I hope I don't lose friends over this, but that's the way it is.
• 42:28
  People who I've become friends with, regardless of whatever their tribe is or
• 42:34
  regardless of whatever their, you know, bizarro activism thing may be,
• 42:40
  you know, I genuinely care about these people.
• 42:44
  So in friendships, you tolerate differences. You accept people for who they
• 42:49
  are, but then you only actively support what you see to be right.
• 42:55
  But what you see to be right for your friend, as well as biblically,
• 42:59
  as well as, you know, you could try to guide them to Jesus.
• 43:05
  You know, if they refuse, then so be it. It may happen one day. No, it may not.
• 43:14
  And that's from a sort of biblical perspective, as a sort of non-biblical,
• 43:19
  sort of secular perspective, is that you need to balance your relationship with,
• 43:24
  you know, kind of mutual growth.
• 43:25
  You want to see your friends improve in whatever aspects of their life.
• 43:31
  My best friend, Timmy, I want to see him be successful at everything he does.
• 43:35
  I want, you know what I'm saying? I want his family to thrive.
• 43:40
  I want his work to thrive. I want him to be healthy.
• 43:43
  And I want that for people, everybody that I know. I don't wish bad things on any of my friends.
• 43:52
  And as far as public policy goes, we talked about Chick-fil-A and Target a little
• 43:57
  bit. But you've got to balance people's rights.
• 44:03
  And as a person who's trying to exert your uniqueness on people,
• 44:09
  right, don't go around demanding acceptance and support.
• 44:14
  That's how you get cut off. And some people just out of principle,
• 44:19
  in America, right, we are rugged individualists to a very large degree still.
• 44:27
  Even though I'm talking about pioneer days, if somebody demanded a thing of
• 44:32
  you just out of blanket frigging principle, F you, right?
• 44:37
  And I'm almost that way now.
• 44:40
  But as a secular philosophy and when it comes to philosophy,
• 44:45
  when it comes to business, when it comes to things, it lines very much up with
• 44:50
  the libertarian sort of perspectives on non-coercion, right? Non-aggression.
• 44:54
  Sort of neutral laws. Don't hurt people. Don't take their stuff.
• 44:58
  Don't coerce. Right? That's it.
• 45:03
  Promote tolerance, no matter what team you're on, you should be promoting tolerance.
• 45:07
  And I hate to keep going back to the left. The left is not very tolerant of
• 45:12
  the Christian community or whatever.
• 45:15
  And they like to say, and they like to exaggerate, and they take the worst examples.
• 45:21
  And look, the right does this too. They'll pick the worst examples to highlight as a norm.
• 45:29
  And that's kind of disingenuous, folks, to pick the worst possible examples to call the norm.
• 45:36
  And the example I'm going to bring up is, what's the name of that damn church?
• 45:41
  It was in Arkansas or somewhere, and they were in the news a lot.
• 45:50
  Not Fultondale? No, that can't be right. That sounds like my buddy's church. That's not correct.
• 45:55
  There's a church, and I can't remember the name of it right now.
• 45:57
  And they would hold signs up that says, God hates fags.
• 46:03
  And I think one time when soldiers were coming back, they were something about
• 46:08
  how soldiers were murderers or something like that.
• 46:13
  Probably under the Barack Obama presidency. Yeah, they were very vocal,
• 46:18
  but they were very hateful.
• 46:19
  That is not in line with Christianity, folks.
• 46:22
  That's just not in line with true Christianity. And then Christians take the
• 46:27
  worst of the worst scenarios, like pride parades in San Francisco, for instance.
• 46:36
  People are out openly having anal sex and urinating on one another in the public.
• 46:43
  And there's kids walking around.
• 46:46
  And it's egregious from a Christian perspective. It's egregious.
• 46:51
  And these poor kids. And yeah, I agree that the kids shouldn't be exposed to
• 46:55
  that, but also these parents are allowing their children, these parents are
• 47:00
  exposing these kids to that consciously.
• 47:04
  So they're not raising their children as Christians for sure.
• 47:08
  And if they are allegedly raising their kids as Christians, and then they're
• 47:14
  seeing grown men urinate on one another and they're saying, oh,
• 47:20
  see, we have to accept them as they are. We love them because we're Christians.
• 47:24
  That is absolutely wrong.
• 47:27
  But that is one of the most, one of the worst examples that I can think of that
• 47:33
  the Christian folks kind of, well, that's normal homosexuality.
• 47:39
  I don't think that's correct. I don't think that's correct.
• 47:46
  So we're moving on here. We're moving on. What about, what duty,
• 47:53
  is there a duty for Christians sort of publicly addressing sin?
• 48:01
  Now, and I'm not talking about the guy standing out on the street corner with
• 48:04
  a sign that says, repent.
• 48:06
  That's a public display. He's a Christian and he's simply standing there letting
• 48:11
  the Lord work through him, right? There's nothing wrong with that at all.
• 48:16
  What about ones who are aggressive?
• 48:20
  Are they like the one I described earlier? I wish I could remember the name
• 48:25
  of that frigging church.
• 48:27
  If you got somebody shaking their finger in your face, telling you that you're
• 48:31
  going to hell because you're a piece of crap, because you X,
• 48:35
  Y, Z, that's not in line with the Christian principles, folks.
• 48:40
  And I don't think Jesus, even though, Now, look, Jesus went hard on some Pharisees,
• 48:45
  you know what I'm saying?
• 48:47
  And the money changers and whatnot in the temple, he went hard. Yeah, he went hard.
• 48:54
  But ain't nobody out there on the streets these days, Jesus.
• 49:00
  You ain't Jesus, all right? I ain't Jesus. We can try to be Christ-like,
• 49:05
  but try to be Christ-like without the biases that you throw into it.
• 49:10
  You know what I mean? And boy, this is getting crazy.
• 49:13
  I might get some hate from a bunch of people on this. I don't know.
• 49:18
  Christians, in my opinion, me as a Christian, I believe it's important that
• 49:23
  you do have to balance love and truth while remembering that nobody's perfect to include yourself.
• 49:33
  You have to remember that nobody's perfect to include yourself.
• 49:36
  In my opinion, there's nothing worse than a hypocrite. you have to remember
• 49:40
  there's no one is perfect to include yourself.
• 49:45
  I don't think you have a Christian duty to go out and condemn the sinners, whoever they are.
• 49:53
  I don't think you're wrong for doing it as long as you're doing it out of humility
• 49:57
  and love and just telling God's truth.
• 50:01
  I think there's nothing wrong with that.
• 50:05
  And likewise, there's nothing wrong with being an LGBT, whatever,
• 50:10
  and if somebody asks, you know,
• 50:13
  do you have to wear, is there a mandate for LGB community to self-righteously
• 50:20
  proclaim their sexuality out in public loudly and proudly?
• 50:27
  Is there a mandate for that? Or do you do it just out of spite?
• 50:34
  I think the Christians, as well as the gays, as well as everyone else.
• 50:39
  Somewhere, I want to say in Seattle, there is a statue on some state property
• 50:43
  of like Moloch, or one of the things that the Satan worshiper,
• 50:49
  the Church of Satanism or whatever it's called.
• 50:53
  They have a statue dedicated to this beast, this Satan worshiping sort of thing.
• 51:01
  Completely, folks, completely out of spite. We all know that this country was
• 51:05
  not built on satanic ritual.
• 51:08
  It was, generally speaking, built on Christianity.
• 51:13
  But out of spite, with loopholes and various rules and this and that and the
• 51:18
  other, there's a statue.
• 51:20
  But what these people and what all these various groups don't,
• 51:25
  they're leaving out the balance.
• 51:27
  They're leaving out the subtleties and the nuance. and it's all just big,
• 51:33
  ugly, brute force things.
• 51:36
  And most of it, the big, ugly, brute force things that you see out there in
• 51:41
  the wild is usually very self-righteous.
• 51:44
  From whichever side you're coming from, it's usually pretty self-righteous.
• 51:48
  And that's bad. That's no good. That's no good. What is a biblical mandate?
• 51:56
  What is the biblical mandate? I don't know.
• 51:59
  Warn lovingly. I think somewhere in the book of Ezekiel it says that. Restore gently.
• 52:05
  Let the Holy Spirit convict. Not you. Let the Holy Spirit convict.
• 52:13
  And then the last thing, I'm going to read this piece. This is not the last thing.
• 52:19
  Warn of consequences, but God alone condemns.
• 52:25
  Gentle warning, right? You can be the gentle warning, but God alone.
• 52:31
  And I'll say this about what I think my Christianity is, and I'll just leave it at that.
• 52:39
  Publicly, yeah, you can speak truth to glorify God and protect others,
• 52:45
  but do it with love publicly.
• 52:49
  Privately, speak truth to glorify
• 52:52
  God and protect others, but do it with love. You see what I did there?
• 52:58
  Do the same thing in private that you do in public and vice versa. Consistency matters.
• 53:05
  Consistency matters, good people.
• 53:07
  All right, what are some of the counterpoints to what I've talked about is if
• 53:11
  you stay silent on a thing, that might imply that you approve of said thing.
• 53:16
  Now, you may be just biding your time to speak up or looking for the right window of opportunity.
• 53:21
  But sometimes people take silence as compliance.
• 53:25
  But what if you're always, always, always out there spouting off outrage nonstop?
• 53:35
  You're always spouting outrage and victimhood and prejudice and bias and bigotry
• 53:44
  non-stop that just hardens people up that just that just what's the word i'm looking for.
• 53:53
  Acclimates them to where it's it lacks
• 53:56
  any impact it creates fatigue and ultimately
• 53:59
  it kind of creates the boy who cried wolf effect to where
• 54:02
  nobody's listening to you anymore if every time any little thing goes not your
• 54:09
  way and you yelling homophobia and racism and bigotry and Christian oppression and whatever,
• 54:20
  eventually nobody's listening to you.
• 54:23
  So in reflection of everything I just talked about thus far,
• 54:26
  there's a thing to remember, a couple of things to remember.
• 54:30
  None of us are without sin. None of us are without sin.
• 54:36
  Do in public what you do in private and vice versa.
• 54:41
  Be consistent about the way you spread your beliefs.
• 54:48
  Yeah, treat people with some good manners. All right.
• 54:52
  Now, I know this is going a little long, but there's three things,
• 54:55
  there's three examples of real world stuff that I want to sort of examine a little bit.
• 55:01
  And what we're going to do is break these down into personal judgment analysis
• 55:06
  from Christian secular sort of perspective.
• 55:09
  And then we're going to do the righteous judgment analysis with a Christian
• 55:13
  and secular perspective.
• 55:15
  And first, we're going to start with, you all remember the case,
• 55:19
  and I bring it up now, of the baker in Colorado,
• 55:24
  Jack Phillips, who back in, I can't remember, 2015 or 16 or something,
• 55:31
  refused to make custom cakes for a same-sex wedding based on his religion.
• 55:37
  And then not long after that, out of spite, I believe, someone who was transitioning
• 55:45
  questioning wanted him to make a custom cake for their transition sort of celebration.
• 55:52
  And he refused. And this guy literally has been in court for 10 years.
• 55:58
  Sorry for that. This guy has been in court for 10 years defending himself.
• 56:03
  And but one of the things is, is that he's been.
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  Well, his defense is based in his faith, right? Right.
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  So the kind of personal judgment analysis on that from the Christian perspective
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  is that if you're not a Christian, you could be looking at him as being a bias or whatever.
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  But he was not hypocritical about what he did.
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  And I don't think it was applicable that he ignored his own sins while condemning.
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  He didn't condemn anyone.
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  But the critics looked at him as sort of being divisive and having no grace.
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  And the Christians that did drag him, he has no grace.
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  But there was no clear evidence of that, and he did what he believed he should.
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  The secular sort of side of that is if you show any prejudice,
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  especially if it's arbitrary,
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  it kind of clashes with the anti-discrimination sort of norms that,
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  especially in Colorado, exist.
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  And, you know, refusals to serve certain people. Now, we've all seen the signs
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  in all sorts of restaurants and businesses that says, we reserve the right to
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  refuse anybody business for any reason.
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  And as a business owner, I think you should be able to do that.
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  Stated reason is on your color or sexual preference, that's one thing.
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  But if that stated reason is because it violates my religious views,
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  well, then now we got a different story going on.
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  So these weren't just his willy-nilly personal views. He didn't just not like lesbians, right?
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  He was standing on his faith.
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  The righteous judgment from that is that from a Christian angle,
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  he upheld what he believed to be God's design.
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  He was not going to celebrate or help to celebrate or support and enable same-sex wedding.
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  That's what he knew not to be biblical truth. Now,
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  one of the things that shows that this guy did act with some grace is that he
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  did offer services to them, but he wasn't going to make a special cake for them.
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  He had cakes and stuff like that already made that they were welcome to buy
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  anyone's welcome to go in there and buy a cake,
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  but he he had to stand on not celebrating
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  the purpose of that cake so you
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  know and that and that cost him for a while and people wanted to uh now that
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  being said half the population started going there a lot and then the other
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  half boycotted and the reason i bring this one up is that all the charges finally
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  got dismissed from this guy.
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  So he was found to be correct and right in his actions.
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  Secular view on the righteous judgment there is that as an individual,
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  and he was an individual business owner, you are free to exercise your beliefs
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  however you choose while not infringing on someone else.
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  Balancing his religious liberty against equality.
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  The academic studies see it as ethical stewardship, right? Ethical stewardship.
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  Hey, I'm not going to allow you to violate my beliefs.
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  I'll meet you halfway, and they didn't want to meet halfway.
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  So what he was doing did not cause a broader harm to other people,
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  and ultimately he kind of acted in a neutral way.
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  Now, from a libertarian's perspective on that, and no matter what service,
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  for whatever reason, you can't be compelled or forced to give your labor to another person.
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  You can't be compelled to give your labor to another. They call that slavery, folks.
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  If I'm forced to do a thing for someone else outside the norms of doing business,
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  that's indentured servitude.
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  And you can't compel somebody to do that. And so that was an interesting one
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  because it lasted for so long.
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  And obviously Christians jumped right on board and obviously the gay community
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  jumped right on board with condemning this guy.
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  But one of the things I think that worked in his favor, quite honestly,
• 1:00:25
  is once this lesbian couple sued this guy and then they tried to pile on.
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  Right. Like, oh, we're going to destroy him legally.
• 1:00:36
  That was not in good faith. They didn't go in that store wanting a transition
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  celebration cake in good faith because they already knew what the answer was.
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  So to me, that killed their credibility on that.
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  About that. I believe the judgment was correct.
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  I believe that this guy should not be compelled to do a thing that he didn't,
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  that didn't align up with his moral religious beliefs.
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  That's what I believe. All right. The next thing I want to talk to,
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  the next subject I want to talk to was not, it was not an incident.
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  In fact, it's a guy that his name is Maj Touré,
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  and he is the owner and
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  founder of black guns matter and
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  the solutionaries and his his whole thing is he pushes minority gun ownership
• 1:01:30
  and training and he promotes empowerment through firearms education and other
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  basic skills education in the urban communities via black guns matter and solutionaries.
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  Why should there be any judgment here? What is the rub?
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  Why do I think that there is some kind of judgment that exists?
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  Well, I've listened to plenty of his interviews and stuff like that,
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  and I see it kind of in the South.
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  Now, it's subtle sometimes, and sometimes it's a little less subtle, but I see it in the South,
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  is the thought, generally speaking, of a 20-something-year-old black male with
• 1:02:15
  a firearm scares the living shit out of people.
• 1:02:20
  Because people, a lot of people, not all, you know,
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  kind of lack the critical thinking to not either blanket judge or blanket assume
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  that this guy's going to commit crime or do whatever.
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  And the hood gets overlooked on a lot of things when it comes to,
• 1:02:42
  especially firearms, self-defense training. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Why would there be any judgment? No, essentially racism. It does still exist folks.
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  And just because it's, it shows up more subtly sometimes it still exists.
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  And because I've seen it with the way I've seen it with the way black clients
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  have approached me very sort of not trepidatious, but softly like, Hey,
• 1:03:11
  can I come out and train? What do you do?
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  And this and that thinking I'm going to somehow shut them down.
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  And then I've seen it kind of firsthand at some gun stores, not around here,
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  just some gun stores where, you know, some,
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  excuse me, black guys will go in looking at guns and everybody gets all nervous
• 1:03:31
  and starts focusing on and things like that.
• 1:03:35
  Now, in contrast, I'm going to say a thing, you can call it racist if you want.
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  I was at a gun show in Marietta. And when I say add a gun show,
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  I had a, I had a table set up sort of promoting my business.
• 1:03:48
  And next to me was a table of, you know, dudes that had a bunch of guns and
• 1:03:54
  they had all their guns out on the table, but they had like a huge setup.
• 1:03:58
  Right. And there was only two of those guys and like four young black guys came
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  in kind of in a group and they all kind of went over here and they were looking
• 1:04:08
  at different guns and then they kind of spread out and they got
• 1:04:12
  They got their attention, and one of the dudes grabbed up a gun,
• 1:04:18
  hauled ass toward the door, and then the other dudes ran out.
• 1:04:22
  They got caught in the parking lot, but my point is this. That kind of shit
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  right there kind of exacerbates,
• 1:04:29
  and it's what I said earlier about Christians and the gays, how they will choose
• 1:04:33
  the most extreme example and use that as sort of a blanket judgment. it. Well.
• 1:04:43
  Example. And these dudes, I mean, that was a big ball move because they were
• 1:04:49
  on the second floor of the thing.
• 1:04:52
  And there were cops at all the entrances of the damn place.
• 1:04:58
  So they got rolled up in the parking lot. Pretty funny.
• 1:05:01
  Anyway, my point is this, not every black guy that comes in the shop is trying to steal your gun.
• 1:05:09
  So how do we look at that from the Christian perspective? If Maj Touré is acting
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  in a selfish way, and he's ignoring the cycles of violence in the hood,
• 1:05:22
  and he's not calling for accountability,
• 1:05:24
  then he's kind of being a hypocrite.
• 1:05:26
  That's a personal judgment sort of way to look at that, even as a Christian.
• 1:05:32
  If he's ignoring sort of blatant truths, then he's being a hypocrite.
• 1:05:39
  But if his focus is on education and individual autonomy and individual agency,
• 1:05:47
  then that's not the case, is it?
• 1:05:49
  And I think that's what he's doing. And then the secular sort of personal judgment
• 1:05:53
  on that is, again, sort of similar if he's overlooking systemic issues and ethical
• 1:06:00
  critiques of kind of gun advocacy.
• 1:06:02
  See, he's not just going up in the hood and throwing out free firearms and then
• 1:06:08
  taking off. You know what I mean?
• 1:06:10
  But he's not, there's no personal bias there. There's personal buy-in.
• 1:06:15
  He cares about what he's doing for sure.
• 1:06:17
  So I think in the sort of the personal judgment, yeah, I don't think he is being selfish in this way.
• 1:06:25
  Now, from the righteous judgment, from the Christian perspective,
• 1:06:30
  what he's doing fits well in with sort of justice and self-defense,
• 1:06:36
  restoring communities, right?
• 1:06:38
  That's what he's trying to do by using education and grace because his classes are free.
• 1:06:49
  Takes four and two basically oppressed people or underrepresented people in the gun community.
• 1:06:57
  And he teaches them, and he's teaching responsibility.
• 1:07:01
  That's what every gun instructor should be teaching is accountability and responsibility.
• 1:07:06
  Never mind like levels of proficiency, right?
• 1:07:10
  We're talking about the responsibility of owning a firearm and carrying one around on a daily basis.
• 1:07:16
  And from a righteous sort of secular angle, it's, it's, he's advocating for equity, right?
• 1:07:24
  Among the inner city population, now mostly black, but he, he doesn't differentiate.
• 1:07:30
  It's not only for black people, right? He's countering racist sort of gun control
• 1:07:35
  history, because if anybody knows sort of the history of gun control.
• 1:07:39
  It was, in fact, rooted with some heavy racism. They did not want freed slaves
• 1:07:46
  owning guns. That was it.
• 1:07:48
  And on up into the civil rights movement, you know, they didn't want blacks owning guns.
• 1:07:54
  And he brings a lot of academic perspective on minority rights,
• 1:07:58
  and he frames it in, you know,
• 1:08:01
  responsible empowerment and promoting social justice through through education.
• 1:08:10
  So that may or may not have been a bad example. I wanted to say that though,
• 1:08:15
  because one, I want to promote what he's doing at Black Guns Matter.
• 1:08:19
  And I want to, I just want to acknowledge, yes, there's some racism out there.
• 1:08:25
  People, people look at black guys with guns differently than they look at white
• 1:08:29
  guys with guns in some places. That's all there is to it.
• 1:08:32
  And is it right, wrong, or otherwise? Well, if it's based in bias,
• 1:08:38
  then it's probably wrong.
• 1:08:39
  All right. And then the thing that got my attention also recently was.
• 1:08:46
  Situation. The reason that popped up is because that case was just dismissed.
• 1:08:51
  And Maj Touré, well, I follow him, so I'm kind of always tracking what his stuff is.
• 1:08:58
  And then the next thing that has just popped up on sort of mainstream news is
• 1:09:03
  this Chip and Joanna Gaines situation.
• 1:09:06
  And if you don't know Chip and Joanna Gaines, they do like the TV house building stuff.
• 1:09:12
  I can't remember the name of their show. they got a couple different shows now
• 1:09:16
  and so the controversy is that one of the shows they got now like their newest
• 1:09:22
  show it features three couples i think not off-grid living but something like that,
• 1:09:30
  and one of the couples is a gay male couple yeah and now chip and joanne are famously christian,
• 1:09:38
  Yeah, they both went to, I want to say they both went to like Baylor in Texas,
• 1:09:42
  which I think is a Christian school, right?
• 1:09:45
  And then they promote Christianity and they talk about it on their shows and stuff.
• 1:09:51
  Well, I want to say Franklin Graham of the Samaritan's Purse and Billy Graham's
• 1:09:57
  son, he made a statement.
• 1:10:00
  And that statement was something, I don't think it was that controversial and
• 1:10:04
  I don't think it was that tough.
• 1:10:08
  And, and I don't think Chip Gaines responded to that, but then all the comments
• 1:10:15
  and then all the fans and everybody starts piping up. Right.
• 1:10:19
  And he started getting ripped for, for promoting homosexuality and stuff like that.
• 1:10:25
  And then Chip kind of comes back with a sort of heavy critique of, I don't know,
• 1:10:34
  Christians, really modern Christians, because he kind of, you know, kind of hypocritical.
• 1:10:41
  And when a gay person or non-believer, for the first time, they come into contact
• 1:10:48
  with somebody, a Christian, and then all this hate, right? Right.
• 1:10:54
  So his harsh critique could kind of be seen as kind of ironically hypocritical, right?
• 1:10:59
  Because he got critiqued harshly and then he turned around and started critiquing harshly.
• 1:11:06
  Now, I don't think there's a single problem. First of all, they're in the TV
• 1:11:10
  business and there are certain realities to life. If you're in the TV business,
• 1:11:15
  there's going to be gay people.
• 1:11:18
  That's the reality of life. If you do business in the city of Atlanta,
• 1:11:22
  you're going to serve gay people. That's it.
• 1:11:29
  Atlanta. I'm in Rome, Georgia. I'm about a solid hour northwest of Atlanta.
• 1:11:36
  And they may not like that I mentioned their name, but Atlanta Peak Pistols
• 1:11:40
  has been out here a few times to train firearms.
• 1:11:45
  It's just, that's the way it is. And for him to come back and harshly,
• 1:11:51
  that asked up some of the christians from a
• 1:11:54
  secular perspective it's he kind
• 1:11:59
  of biased discourse if he's elevating his personal
• 1:12:02
  beliefs over sort of inclusive dialogue that's that's a way to look at that
• 1:12:07
  personal judgment wise so he on his statement i think is what is what we're
• 1:12:13
  really talking about is he was kind of elevating his personal beliefs and excuse
• 1:12:17
  me kind of slamming other christians.
• 1:12:20
  But in the modern world what what he's done in
• 1:12:24
  in the secular world what he's done is is nothing i
• 1:12:27
  mean it doesn't even warrant a response but they also emphasized biblical truth
• 1:12:36
  on that i i think they at some point whether it was on the show or in the in
• 1:12:43
  the the twitter or the tweet or the frigging X or whatever it was,
• 1:12:47
  they kind of emphasized love and dialogue and restoring through grace and avoiding
• 1:12:54
  hypocrisy by encouraging humility.
• 1:12:56
  They did that, I think.
• 1:12:59
  And then a secular view of that is that it's a principled expression in public discourse.
• 1:13:06
  So those two men who are married, they have rights too.
• 1:13:11
  They don't necessarily have a right to be on a TV show, but they applied.
• 1:13:16
  They did all the things that they had to do to get on that TV show.
• 1:13:21
  And, you know, I haven't seen the show ever.
• 1:13:25
  They're all leathered up and doing stereotypical things, or if it's just two
• 1:13:32
  regular guys, you know, trying to live their life.
• 1:13:35
  So, you know, depicting faith on modern media is a whole nother thing,
• 1:13:41
  man. Like that's a whole nother thing.
• 1:13:44
  And sort of navigating the ethics of that while still having entertaining television.
• 1:13:50
  Yeah. I don't know, man. It started a conversation though. I can tell you that.
• 1:13:55
  So those are the things I wanted to kind of go over and give you some examples
• 1:13:59
  and let you mull those over.
• 1:14:02
  Yeah, we shouldn't be very judgmental, but we are.
• 1:14:06
  And if we are judgmental, I think we need to be, when I say critical with it,
• 1:14:12
  I don't mean in the negative way.
• 1:14:14
  I think we need to critically think and to critically examine why we believe what we belief.
• 1:14:21
  And then once we're happy with that, then we need to critically examine how
• 1:14:26
  our opinion matters to whoever it is we're judging, right?
• 1:14:30
  Because if you're just judging just to feel superior, stop what you're doing.
• 1:14:34
  You know what I'm saying?
• 1:14:35
  If you're just judging to feel superior, stop what you're doing.
• 1:14:39
  If you have a genuine desire to.
• 1:14:44
  Somebody to Jesus, in my personal opinion, Edgar Mill's personal opinion,
• 1:14:50
  the best way to do that is be an example of what good looks like.
• 1:14:57
  And if you care that much, right, if you care that much, then you will hold
• 1:15:04
  yourself accountable and you will be mindful of the things you do under watchful eyes.
• 1:15:09
  But like I said in the episode, what you do in the public, you should also do
• 1:15:16
  in the private and vice versa.
• 1:15:19
  So if you're mindful of how you appear,
• 1:15:23
  and if you're mindful of not being a hypocrite, right, being consistent,
• 1:15:29
  then what you do in private and what you do in the public eye should match up.
• 1:15:35
  And if you really do genuinely care about leading people to Christ,
• 1:15:40
  then be Christ-like. Be kind.
• 1:15:43
  You don't got to go around kissing everybody's ass, but be kind to people.
• 1:15:47
  Be genuinely kind in a sense that if you see somebody needs help,
• 1:15:52
  help them. Hold the door open for people.
• 1:15:54
  You know, pick up trash as you see it when you're walking into Publix.
• 1:15:58
  I mean, just any little thing. I don't even want to, there's about 8 million
• 1:16:03
  things you could do in the public eye that would, you know, cause somebody to
• 1:16:09
  look and go, oh, wow, that was nice.
• 1:16:12
  There you go, man. Set the example. And in military parlance, lead by example.
• 1:16:20
  Yeah, do what you want your subordinates to do.
• 1:16:26
  Be who you want your friends to be.
• 1:16:30
  Yeah, there it is. Now, let me go ahead and do a disclosure and a caveat.
• 1:16:37
  I am in no way qualified to talk about...
• 1:16:41
  To talk about Christianity and quote, now I had a lot of biblical verses on
• 1:16:46
  here that I didn't read out.
• 1:16:48
  I don't want the general public to think that I'm spitting off some references
• 1:16:53
  that I don't, yeah, they're written down on a piece of paper.
• 1:16:56
  I got like five pages of notes here.
• 1:16:59
  You know, maybe it would have had more impact had I read the biblical,
• 1:17:02
  the verse and the book and verse and all chapter and verse, but,
• 1:17:06
  uh, I'm in no way a theologian.
• 1:17:09
  I'm in no way trying to lead you.
• 1:17:12
  Well, yeah, I do. I want everybody to, to, to meet Jesus. I mean, yeah, for sure. Why not?
• 1:17:19
  I want everybody to be saved. I want everybody to go to heaven.
• 1:17:23
  And you can think that's a simplistic thing if you're a atheist or agnostic
• 1:17:28
  type, but it's not, it's not.
• 1:17:31
  There's plenty of not even the Bible, right?
• 1:17:36
  But there's probably a scientific evidence, at least for the existence of Jesus Christ.
• 1:17:43
  And I happen to believe he is the son of God. So that's a pretty big deal.
• 1:17:48
  It's been around for a while.
• 1:17:50
  If that's your metric for religion, how long it's been around,
• 1:17:52
  then there's other religions that probably predated it or at least some cultish things.
• 1:17:58
  That's not the metric at all.
• 1:18:01
  At any rate, Do what you know is to be right.
• 1:18:04
  Now, if you're an atheist or agnostic and you have very definite beliefs about
• 1:18:10
  what is right and what is wrong, ask yourself, where do you derive those beliefs from?
• 1:18:17
  Was it just some, you know, was it comic books? Did you read Marvel comics and
• 1:18:22
  that's where you got right from wrong?
• 1:18:23
  Did you watch Andy Griffith on TV as a youth and that's where you set your values from?
• 1:18:29
  Shit, it's possible, you know, it's possible. Andy Griffith was a good one If
• 1:18:33
  you If you If you want to look at Wholesome That was pretty wholesome Wow.
• 1:18:40
  Where do they come from? What values do you hold and where do they come from?
• 1:18:46
  Now, I say this all the time, too. If you lack empathy and you don't care about
• 1:18:49
  humans and you just see somebody dead as not, then you are possibly a psychopath
• 1:18:55
  and should seek out some counseling.
• 1:18:59
  But generally speaking, if it bothers you to see someone get hurt, if death matters to you,
• 1:19:07
  if somebody dies and you feel a genuine sort of pain or emptiness,
• 1:19:12
  but you're not following Jesus,
• 1:19:14
  then ask yourself, where do I get my values from? Where do they come from?
• 1:19:19
  Now, the big answer is probably going to be, oh, they're Judeo-Christian values.
• 1:19:25
  Well, yes, Judeo-Christian values, I guess that's a big blanket term.
• 1:19:31
  But it's worth looking into, folks. It's worth looking into.
• 1:19:35
  Do you have integrity? And if so, why?
• 1:19:40
  You see what I'm saying? Start asking yourself some deeper questions.
• 1:19:44
  Do you have integrity? And if so, why? And how does that look on a daily basis? Yeah.
• 1:19:53
  Yep. All right, folks, that's been my podcast on judgment and tolerance and
• 1:20:03
  acceptance and all those things.
• 1:20:05
  Was it weighing on me? No. But this is one of those topics that you could sit
• 1:20:09
  at a pub and discuss for hours and hours and hours.
• 1:20:14
  There's so many different directions you go to when you start talking about
• 1:20:18
  your value system and the things that you tolerate and accept and support when
• 1:20:26
  it comes to bigger philosophies or when it comes to behavior.
• 1:20:30
  So I think these are things worth thinking about, folks.
• 1:20:34
  Think about what your opinion on the Chip and Joanne saga is.
• 1:20:40
  Are they promoting homosexual marriage because they had two gay men on their show?
• 1:20:47
  Was the baker in Colorado a bigot?
• 1:20:51
  Or is he allowed to stand on his beliefs? Are you allowed to have your belief
• 1:20:55
  system, but he not allowed to have his?
• 1:20:57
  And then the question is well if his system
• 1:21:01
  doesn't bake me a cake then his system is wrong well that's not for you to say
• 1:21:05
  at all was he wrong if if you're in a gay community was he wrong tell me that
• 1:21:12
  hit me up edgar mills at ospreyshooting solutions.com or you can do it from
• 1:21:18
  the website at thejuntopodcast.com.
• 1:21:20
  If you don't know about Maj Touré, M-A-J-T-O-U-R-E, and that's Black Guns Matter,
• 1:21:29
  or The Solutionaries, both of those.
• 1:21:32
  If you live in the inner city, the ghetto specifically,
• 1:21:37
  and you care about your community, yourself, your longevity,
• 1:21:44
  your self-defense, experience or learning skills, and not just shooting, folks, life skills.
• 1:21:53
  He teaches life skills, how to lift yourself up, right?
• 1:21:59
  That's what he's there to do, is to help you learn how to lift yourself up.
• 1:22:04
  And if you got money and you believe in that sort of thing, then donate to the
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  guy because all his classes are done for free. It's a nonprofit.
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  And when he raises enough money, He'll go do a, do a big class and not just,
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  you know, shooting, but stop the bleed and things like that, among other things.
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  Your opinion on, on all these things I presented. All right.
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  I do want your feedback folks. Okay.
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  So there's that. That's the end. Now what's coming up next on Saturday,
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  this coming Saturday, what do I have?
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  We have a wildcard day. Yep.
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  Yep. Yep. Let me fix my calendar here.
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  Wildcard day. And that's a good one. That's like 75 bucks.
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  And it's a, it's about a four hour day. It could go longer depending on how
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  many folks come out, but bring your rifle and your pistol because you never
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  know what's going to come out of the deck.
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  And then the, then we run the blackjack 33 challenge, which is a two gun challenge,
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  which is your opportunity to win the coin, a blackjack 33 club coin.
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  And the catchphrase on that is performance is the price of entry.
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  Yeah. And that's a good one. And go check out the backstory on that on my website,
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  OspreyShootingSolutions.com.
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  And then it's just a bunch of private sessions now
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  next week there you know there's availability folks for next
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  next week the last week of july there's plenty
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  of availability for the first or the first week of august there's a rifle workshop
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  coming up august 9th and that is strictly rifle and that's that's going to be
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  where we just hone down on a couple of fundamentals and do a lot of repetitions
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  supporting those fundamentals.
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  I've got a private consultant. And then on 23rd of August, we will have another pistol workshop.
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  Unlike the last workshop where we worked at distance, we worked all the way
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  out to, I think, 55 yards with pistol.
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  It was eye-opening and it was awesome, but it sucked hard.
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  A heartbreaker it was. On the 23rd of August, we have a pistol workshop and
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  that's going to be mostly movement oriented,
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  you know, front, rear, lateral kind of explosive movement, moving in and out
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  of positions, in and out of shooting boxes and that kind of thing.
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  And then at the end of August, on August 30th, there is another wildcard day.
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  Now look, folks, you may notice that I don't have a lot of big courses lined up.
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  If you are, if you have a group of four or more people that want to do a private
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  course together, like the, you know, dynamic pistol or dynamic two gun or whatever. And.
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  Ask me about that, we can set it up and we can set that up.
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  And in the middle of the summertime, you know, it's brutal. And an eight or
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  10 hour day out on the range is pretty brutal.
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  So if you want to do a private thing, we'll do it. Otherwise the workshops and
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  the wild cards are what's on deck for the foreseeable future.
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  And once again, in September, I'm
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  looking to set up a land nav course
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  and I'm waiting on I'm waiting on the
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  original crew who set that up to hit
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  me with some solid dates but once I get those
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  solid dates we are then going to open
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  it up and I want to say we're going to have four slots open
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  for that land navigation and that's going to be a three day
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  that's one day in the classroom one full day
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  and then we'll and we'll do a terrain walk and all that stuff
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  out here and then we will spend two days
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  in the talladega national forest so that's
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  an overnighter it's brutal it's going
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  to be a team event which means it's going to be two-man teams is what that's
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  going to be i provide all the gear folks all compasses protractors paste beads
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  maps map cases the whole works water and then we'll go out and get a nice nice chow after that.
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  So please follow, please share, please like all those things.
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  And then I'm on the socials on all those things, except the Junto podcast is,
• 1:26:30
  I want to say it's the Junto podcast 1727.
• 1:26:34
  And then two team guys and and i
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  and all that stuff well on facebook you could just robert edgar mills and get
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  to everything from there please give me your feedback please share and be good
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  to each other folks please be
• 1:26:53
  good to each other until next time i appreciate you guys i love you guys.
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  Music.