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Bonus Episode: Compton, Conspiracies, and Mercy · DISGRACELAND

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Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life,
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Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through. Yeah, me too.
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Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome
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Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode,
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Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party.
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Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after
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Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to get you from one full
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Speaker 1: episode of Disgraceland to the other. The backyard, to dig
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Speaker 1: into the dirt, our mission to uncover the truth, to
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Speaker 1: confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode,
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Speaker 1: we're talking about this week's full episode subject Kendrick Lamar,
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Speaker 1: and we're rewinding back to our Grand Parsons episode, previewing
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Speaker 1: our upcoming story on Brian Wilson, and we get into
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Speaker 1: your voicemails, tech dms, and as always a whole lot
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Speaker 1: of rosie. This is the podcast for the musically obsessed.
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Speaker 1: The outsider is the independent thinkers who know that the
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Speaker 1: best history is the history that gets buried. Disgraceland is
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Speaker 1: where I tell the stories they didn't want told, the
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Speaker 1: kind you'll end up telling someone else. All Right, this goes,
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Speaker 1: Let's get into it. Compton, the setting for this week's
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Speaker 1: full episode of Disgraceland on Kendrick Lamar, located south of
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Speaker 1: downtown LA Is regarded by its residents as a tight
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Speaker 1: knit community, but for music fans Compton Compton gives an
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Speaker 1: outsized impression, one that I would say is actually mythic.
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Speaker 1: And that's because Compton, from the nineteen eighties on has
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Speaker 1: given us some of the most exciting music and culture
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Speaker 1: up NWA's Straight Out of Compton was a view into
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Speaker 1: a world that captivated those of us who were out
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Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere America. Drugs, beatdowns, crooked cops,
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Speaker 1: drive by shootings, What the hell was this place? Now?
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Speaker 1: I'm certain that as a kid, the first time I
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Speaker 1: even heard the name Compton it was on that record,
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Speaker 1: and I'm pretty sure it was like that for a
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Speaker 1: lot of people at my age who weren't from Los Angeles. Now,
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Speaker 1: imagine being born into that world as Kendrick Lamar was,
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Speaker 1: and taking all of that influence as your birthright and
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Speaker 1: using it to turn yourself into one of the biggest
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Speaker 1: and most influential modern musical artists on the planet. It's
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Speaker 1: pretty impressive, and no other modern musician has taken Compton
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Speaker 1: as far as Kendrick Lamar has I said, modern musicians,
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Speaker 1: so slow your role. I know you're gonna come at
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Speaker 1: me with your NWA Doctor Dre ice Cube takes. But
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Speaker 1: again I said, modern modern muse position. What Doctor Dre
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Speaker 1: did in the nineties was incredible, super impressive. Yes, groundbreaking, sure,
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Speaker 1: but that was then and this is now. But you know,
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Speaker 1: for people like me, and I suspect people like you,
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Speaker 1: that history is more interesting. So let's look at what
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Speaker 1: Compton and the greater self central region of Los Angeles
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Speaker 1: has given us for great music, shall we. I already
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Speaker 1: mentioned the shot heard around the world, NWA's Straight Out
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Speaker 1: of Compton from nineteen eighty eight. It's indisputably one of
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Speaker 1: the greatest hip hop albums ever, certainly one of the
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Speaker 1: most consequential, and it's book ended on the front side
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Speaker 1: by Easy Ease nineteen eighty seven single Easy Does It
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Speaker 1: and on the backside by Doctor Dre's solo debut The Chronic,
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Speaker 1: which comes a little bit later in nineteen ninety two.
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Speaker 1: A great record that is also born of this world
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Speaker 1: that doesn't get enough mentioned in my view, is Easy
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Speaker 1: and Dre's bandmate Ice Cube in his sophomore effort, The Predator,
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Speaker 1: also from nineteen ninety two. Now rewind back before Easy
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Speaker 1: and to Seth Central Los Angeles, not Compton exactly, but
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Speaker 1: pretty much the same neighborhood, same area of LA and
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Speaker 1: we get ice T's nineteen eighty seven debut, Rhyme Pays
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Speaker 1: with its gangster rap genre defining track six in the Morning.
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Speaker 1: All four of these records, Rhyme Pays by ice T,
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Speaker 1: Easy's so first solo album straight out of Compton, Doctor
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Speaker 1: Dre's Chronic The Predator by Ice Cube. That's five records. Actually,
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Speaker 1: all five of these records. They stand up to the
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Speaker 1: scrutiny of time. Nearly forty years later. Kendrick Lamar was
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Speaker 1: in diapers when this music was released, and his second
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Speaker 1: album twenty fifteen's To Pimp a Butterfly It deserves to
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Speaker 1: be on this list, as does kendricks fall in contemporary
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Speaker 1: Nipsey Hustles, Mailbox Money. These albums more than their great
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Speaker 1: music and influence on culture. To me anyway, they're mile
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Speaker 1: markers that point us toward just some of the wildest
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Speaker 1: true crime stories from music history. It's crazy. The murder
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Speaker 1: of Nipsey Hustle, the survival of Kendrick Lamar, the true
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Speaker 1: story behind Ice T's actual life of crime that no
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Speaker 1: one seems to really talk about except me. I don't
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Speaker 1: know why. And then, of course the strange death of
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Speaker 1: Easy Easy. Eas official cause of death was from HIV AIDS. However,
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Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen, his son Young Easy claimed that his
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Speaker 1: father Eric Wright ak Easy got sick after an incident
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Speaker 1: with Suge Knight in the recording studio, which okay, And
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Speaker 1: then there are these comments from Suge Knight on Jimmy
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Speaker 1: Kimmel Live from two thousand and three.
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Speaker 2: I'll come check you out right. Why do prove this?
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Speaker 3: Oh it's not Oh no, that's just because.
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Speaker 2: While this is a new thing, right, See, if somebody
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Speaker 2: gonna do somebody. See technology is so high, right right,
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Speaker 2: So if you shoot somebody, you go to Jill Fever.
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Speaker 2: So the kids, you don't want to go to Joe Fever.
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Speaker 4: Right.
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Speaker 2: So they got this new thing out that people sell
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Speaker 2: them all the time. They got this stuff to call.
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Speaker 2: They get blood from somebody with.
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Speaker 1: AIDS, Yeah, they shoot you with it.
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Speaker 2: Oh that's death Easy there, you know what I mean?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Wait, a light in the moon in the exclusive
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Speaker 1: section of this episode that's coming up is that and
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Speaker 1: I are going to dive into the merits behind whatever
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Speaker 1: the fuck it is that sug Knight is talking about
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Speaker 1: here and Young Easy's claim that sug Knight had his
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Speaker 1: father killed via this horrific method that Shulg himself is
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Speaker 1: describing on national television. Now, I've heard these rumors before.
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Speaker 1: They came up briefly in the Easy episode that we did.
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Speaker 1: It's something that I've never fully wanted to dive into
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Speaker 1: until now because I just I got comped in on
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Speaker 1: my brain. So we're gonna dig into this. Like I
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Speaker 1: said in the exclusive section of this after party, me
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Speaker 1: and Zath, we're gonna bring it to you. We're gonna
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Speaker 1: talk about whether or not we think there's enough here
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Speaker 1: for to warrant its own episode of Disgraceland. But you know,
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Speaker 1: and more. All right, all right, all right, we are
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Speaker 1: back speaking of all right, all right, all right. Has
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Speaker 1: anybody read Matthew McConaughey's book. I have not heard. It's great.
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Speaker 1: I heard it's really inspiring, and I want to read it.
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Speaker 1: New True Detective note news as well. Nick Cage supposedly involved.
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Speaker 1: All right, getting way off track. Listen this week True
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Speaker 1: Detective Aside, Matthew McConaughey aside. All right, all right, all right,
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Speaker 1: Kendrick Lamar in your feed right now. Check that story
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Speaker 1: out if you have not heard it. Coming up next
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Speaker 1: in the feed, we are rewinding to Gram Parsons, Our
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Speaker 1: Gram Parsons story. I put my heart and my soul
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Speaker 1: into everything I write for you guys. But it's hard
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Speaker 1: for me to think of another episode where I lay
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Speaker 1: bear my own emotions as heavily as I did in
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Speaker 1: this Graham Parsons episode and Graham's I sort of use
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Speaker 1: Grams dealings with grief as a proxy for my own
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Speaker 1: at the time and what I was going through. I
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Speaker 1: remember distinctly writing that episode and just how helpful it
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Speaker 1: was to have Graham Parsons, the spirit of Gram Parsons
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Speaker 1: and his music with me during that really really rough summer.
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Speaker 1: So that is coming out next in our feed. That'll
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Speaker 1: be hitting up next after this episode, and then we're
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Speaker 1: doing something a little bit different. We're gonna We're gonna
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Speaker 1: sneak in Beach Boys Part one Beach Boys Part two
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Speaker 1: in the coming days after Graham Parsons, because we have
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Speaker 1: a new episode on Brian Wilson, who you know passed
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Speaker 1: away a couple of months ago, and I decided, Hey,
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Speaker 1: I want to do a Brian Wilson episode. So I
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Speaker 1: got in there. I wrote this Brian Wilson episode. It's
10:17
Speaker 1: essentially part three of our Beach Boys story. It's a
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Speaker 1: man Brian Wilson. This was This was tough. This was
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Speaker 1: a tough one to write because so much has been said, written,
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Speaker 1: uh put on film about Brian Wilson and Brian Wilson
10:34
Speaker 1: one of the rare artists who is a couple of things.
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Speaker 1: His autobiography is incredible, It's really really great. He's totally
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Speaker 1: hard on the sleeve. He tells his story in a
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Speaker 1: way that only he can, so that makes it hard
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Speaker 1: for somebody like me to come in and write, write
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Speaker 1: the story, or tell a unique story, or come in
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Speaker 1: with a unique point of view. But then also the
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Speaker 1: rare thing is Brian Wilson. I'm like most musicians who
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Speaker 1: have biopics. The bio pick on Brian Wilson's actually really good.
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Speaker 1: I think anyways, love and Mercy, and that just makes
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Speaker 1: it again, it makes it difficult when when the stories
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Speaker 1: that are out there are really good and they cover
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Speaker 1: a lot of the most interesting stuff and there's not
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Speaker 1: a lot, a lot, not a lot left in the
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Speaker 1: cracks for us to mine out, makes it really difficult
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Speaker 1: to tell these stories in a unique way. But I think,
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Speaker 1: you know, I think, I hope, I hope we did
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Speaker 1: a good job. I really kind of leaned into the
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Speaker 1: spirit of Brian Wilson here and I did not. We
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Speaker 1: just Zeth and I and the rest of us at
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Speaker 1: Double eleve Us. We didn't intend to have the Kendrick
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Speaker 1: episode and the Brian Wilson episode hanging on the same theme.
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Speaker 1: Zeth wrote the Kendrick episode, I wrote the Brian Wilson one.
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Speaker 1: But but mercy is part of the thematically, is part
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Speaker 1: of the same thing here with both episodes, So I
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Speaker 1: just worked out that way. But whatever doesn't really matter.
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Speaker 1: I like when we're hanging on a theme, and I
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Speaker 1: hope you dig this episode that's coming up next Tuesday.
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Speaker 1: It's our next new episode, just Gray SAand on Brian
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Speaker 1: Wilson of the Beach Boys. Question of the week for
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Speaker 1: next week when you're listening to that Brian Wilson episode,
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Speaker 1: it's going to be which figure for music history is
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Speaker 1: the best example of a tortured genius. Is it Brian Wilson.
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Speaker 1: Is it someone like Kurt Cobain or sly Stone who
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Speaker 1: also recently departed, Marvin Gay, or maybe it's someone new
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Speaker 1: like young Blood. I don't know. There's a lot of
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Speaker 1: examples to pull from here, and perhaps to help organize
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Speaker 1: your thinking, give me recommendations, maybe on subjects that I
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Speaker 1: haven't covered yet, we haven't covered yet in Disgrace, and
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Speaker 1: that you might want to hear us cover. Okay, so
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Speaker 1: when you're listening to Brian Wilson for obvious reasons, the
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Speaker 1: question is going to be what is the best example
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Speaker 1: from music history of a tortured genius? Six one seven
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Speaker 1: nine six six six three eight voicemail and text to
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Speaker 1: let me know right now? Though you know where I
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Speaker 1: am at. I am in the phone booth, the one
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Speaker 1: across the hall. I am hanging on the telephone. We're answering.
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Speaker 1: Last week's question of the Week spawned from our Kendrick episode,
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Speaker 1: which artists demonstrated, uh, the greatest act of mercy. Kind
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Speaker 1: of an esoteric question for us to ask, but I
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Speaker 1: don't know. We went there and let's check in with
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Speaker 1: Cynthia in the five.
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Speaker 4: To one zero, Hey, Jake, Cynthia calling from California. And
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Speaker 4: musician with the most with mercy was Joan jet I
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Speaker 4: went to go see her in the late nineties, first
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Speaker 4: time I ever got to see her. I've been a
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Speaker 4: fan since I was seven years old, and I had
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Speaker 4: a full blown panic attack like third song and I
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Speaker 4: didn't know what was happening. My head was totally spinning out,
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Speaker 4: and as they were oaking me out because I was
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Speaker 4: in the very front, I was complaining that I've been
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Speaker 4: wanting to see her since I was seven. So I
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Speaker 4: had to spend the rest of the time in the
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Speaker 4: medic tent, probably about I don't know, thirty minutes. There
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Speaker 4: was a short set afterwards. A friend of mine had
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Speaker 4: gotten to some people backstage, and when she was doing
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Speaker 4: our autograph signing at the end, she had to go
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Speaker 4: behind the desk where she was and asked if I
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Speaker 4: wanted to take a picture. I said yes, I was
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Speaker 4: still kind of groggy it, and you know, she put
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Speaker 4: her arm around my shoulder and she would just look
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Speaker 4: at me and she's like, are you okay? And I
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Speaker 4: said yeah. She gave me a little squeeze on the
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Speaker 4: arm and then we took the picture and it was
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Speaker 4: so awesome. She was so cool, just a really cool,
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Speaker 4: genuine person. So that was my story. I hope that
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Speaker 4: as well.
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Speaker 1: Take care, Cynthia. This is an incredible story, and I
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Speaker 1: thank you for sharing it with us. I love the
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Speaker 1: personal stories, and I always liked jone Jet, but I've
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Speaker 1: never met her. I don't know much about her history
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Speaker 1: other than you know, just the sort of top level
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Speaker 1: Wikipedia stuff what everybody knows. And it's just it warmed
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Speaker 1: my heart to hear you tell that story and for
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Speaker 1: me to learn that Jone Jet is just a great person.
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Speaker 1: It sounds like super cool. Love it. By the way,
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Speaker 1: you got a great friend there who went and hooked
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Speaker 1: that all up where you went backstage, sought out Joan Jet,
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Speaker 1: got you to connect with her. That's no easy thing
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Speaker 1: to do. All right, let's check you in with the
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Speaker 1: seven two four same question here seven two four rights
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Speaker 1: in hey. As for the topic of next week, it's
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Speaker 1: hard not to think of the most merciful artist and
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Speaker 1: not think of the appellation queen herself, Dolly Parton. That
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Speaker 1: woman through her park, her reading program, helping wildlife, LBGTQ
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Speaker 1: plus support and more. Make whatever jokes you want about
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Speaker 1: the woman's chest, but behind is an absolute heart of gold.
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Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna say anything about Dolly Parton's chest. I've
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Speaker 1: never said anything about Dolly Parton's chest to you, guys,
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Speaker 1: or anyone else that I know of. I hear you,
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Speaker 1: Dolly Parton is the shit. She's amazing and we should
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Speaker 1: all celebrate Dolly Parton, and she's a great candidate for
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Speaker 1: incredible acts of mercy for music history. Eight one six
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Speaker 1: right saying, hey, Jake Chain from the eight one six,
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Speaker 1: My text is in regards both to artists showing mercy
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Speaker 1: and first concerts. My son's first concert at age three
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Speaker 1: was Cross Canadian Ragweed and if you haven't heard of them,
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Speaker 1: there are music royalty in the Red Dirt Scene. And
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Speaker 1: not only was the show amazing, when Cody walked out
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Speaker 1: to start the show, he saw my wife standing there
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Speaker 1: front row with a baby and a carrier on her chest,
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Speaker 1: and made the security go get three more barricade fences
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Speaker 1: and box us in on the remaining three sides, so
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Speaker 1: we had our own little corral of front row space
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Speaker 1: so nobody could bump or spilled beer on the baby.
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Speaker 1: True class acts. Look into CCR and the Red Dirt Scene.
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Speaker 1: Guys who had the opportunity to blow up but chose
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Speaker 1: not to sell out love that eight one six. I
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Speaker 1: will certainly check that out, and I must have made
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Speaker 1: you guys feel pretty badass, pretty special. Let's hear from
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Speaker 1: Arman in Calgary.
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Speaker 5: Hey, this is Armand and the Boy three five eight seven.
16:55
Speaker 5: I just wanted to find out if you knew about
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Speaker 5: Lenny appearing on stage with Frankie Goes to Hollywood on
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Speaker 5: German TV. If you've not seen it, you need to watch.
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Speaker 2: It once again.
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Speaker 5: Armand in the four three five h seven, Calgary, Alberta, Canada.
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Speaker 5: Love the show. Listen every week faithfully.
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Speaker 1: Arman from Calgary. This is exactly why I love this gig.
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Speaker 1: I have never once in my life heard of lem
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Speaker 1: Me performing with Frankie Goes to Hollywood, and I'm so
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Speaker 1: happy for it. I'm so excited. I'm going to watch.
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Speaker 1: I hope everybody else watches, and I hope we come
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Speaker 1: back next week we talk about it. Six one seven
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Speaker 1: nine oh six six six three eight. I want everybody's
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Speaker 1: take on Lemm Fromoterhead collaborating with Frankie Goes to Hollywood. Okay,
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Speaker 1: and don't bring up Dolly Parton's chest when you give
17:47
Speaker 1: me your Lemmy takes regarding Frankie Goes to Hollywood. Okay. Now,
17:52
Speaker 1: let's do a couple of emails, because I've been neglecting
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Speaker 1: the emails lately, not on purpose, it just happens. Claire
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Speaker 1: Bifford or Buyford. I'm not sure how to pronounce her
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Speaker 1: last name right, saying Hey, greetings from beautiful Cornwall, England.
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Speaker 1: I'm a longtime listener of Disgrace Sland and Hollywood Land
18:10
Speaker 1: and loved the interaction between Jake and Zeff and the
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Speaker 1: new rap parties. She goes on to say, can I
18:14
Speaker 1: recommend a Western read The Sisters Brothers by Patrick DeWitt.
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Speaker 1: I'm not especially a Western fan, but this book blew
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Speaker 1: me away. It is set during the gold Rush and
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Speaker 1: as some of the true life grit that is often
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Speaker 1: missing from stories and films of that period. Yes, Claire,
18:28
Speaker 1: this is exactly what I'm looking for. Claire goesana say,
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Speaker 1: the book has been made into a film with some
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Speaker 1: big names in it, but I haven't watched it as
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Speaker 1: it won't match my imagination which was set alive by
18:38
Speaker 1: the pros. I loved your episode about the Cramps, which
18:41
Speaker 1: explained how the hell they were on the same bill
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Speaker 1: as the Police. For my brother and I saw them
18:44
Speaker 1: at our school's leisure center back in the day. It
18:46
Speaker 1: was round about the time the Police released their first album,
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Speaker 1: probably before you were born. My brother Simon followed the
18:52
Speaker 1: Cramps round a few more of their gigs in the
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Speaker 1: UK and bumped into Brian Gregory and the bar on
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Speaker 1: one occasion, and he bumped a cigarette off Brian. That's
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Speaker 1: Brian Gregory from the Cramps, hoping for an exotically flavored one,
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Speaker 1: but it turned out to be a good old fashioned
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Speaker 1: Lambert and Butler. Claire email us every week. I love
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Speaker 1: your writing. This is great. Claire goes on to say,
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Speaker 1: favorite band, Thin Lizzie, favorite mail artist, Bowie, favorite female artists,
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Speaker 1: Gladys Night, top three albums, Diamond Dogs, Bowie, Course Stone Tuble, Pilots.
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Speaker 1: Didn't see that coming, Claire, Fisherman's Blues by the water Boys.
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Speaker 1: That makes sense. Really love your work. Rock a Rolla, Claire, Claire,
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Speaker 1: you even spelled out RockA Rolla correct. Write us back anytime,
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Speaker 1: damn hanging out with the Cramps. Recommending great westerns. Claire,
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Speaker 1: you're the best. I'm gonna read The Sisters Brothers by
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Speaker 1: Patrick DeWitt. I'm looking forward to it. I got one
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Speaker 1: book coming. I'm waiting, I'm waiting. I'm in this. I
19:44
Speaker 1: hate I hate this, this like period where the book's
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Speaker 1: not finished, the last book, the new book's not here,
19:51
Speaker 1: Like what am I going to do? I need to
19:53
Speaker 1: be reading something always Right now, I'm going to read
19:56
Speaker 1: this email from John McNeely aka Johnny Vinyl, who writes, Hey, hey, Jake,
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Speaker 1: your Motorhead Lemmy episode was awesome. You had so much
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Speaker 1: detail in there. What a cool story about you meeting
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Speaker 1: him back in the nineties. I can't say I met him,
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Speaker 1: but when I lived in LA in the early two thousands,
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Speaker 1: I saw him a few times at the Rainbow Room
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Speaker 1: All right, Welcome back to the Disgraceland after party. Listen.
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Speaker 1: new episode helmed by none other than the great Zeth Lundy,
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Speaker 1: talking to Zesth giving you our recommendations, talking about whatever
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Speaker 1: that week's subject is. This week's subject was Lindsay Lohan.
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Speaker 1: Now we do this bit where I've got to do
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Speaker 1: music recommendations based on the Hollywood Lands subject and Matt
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Speaker 1: once you give the fine people a taste of Hollywood Land.
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Speaker 3: Jake, what music recks inspired by Lindsay Lohan do you
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Speaker 3: have for us today?
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Speaker 1: This was this was a weird way into music recommendations.
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie Lindsay Lohan to the Canyons to
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Speaker 1: the Canyon soundtrack. Not a lot of great stuff on there,
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Speaker 1: but a great band, the Dumb Dumb Girls from the
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Speaker 1: late aughts. Yep, you're nodding along, you remember the dumb
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Speaker 1: Dumb Girls. Dumb dumb Girls. I could just recommend them
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Speaker 1: and that would be fine. However, I'm gonna recommend an
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Speaker 1: entryway song for You guys. Smith's cover the Dumb Dumb
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Speaker 1: Girl's cover of There's a Light That Never Goes Out
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Speaker 1: by the Smith's incredible Smith song and their version is amazing,
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Speaker 1: and it's cool to hear this song from a female perspective.
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Speaker 1: It's from a EP they put out in twenty eleven
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Speaker 1: called He Gets Me High Dumb Dumb Girls, There's a
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Speaker 1: Light That Never Goes Out Lindsay Lohan. I thought Lindsay.
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Speaker 1: I could go Lindsay Buckingham. I could go buckingham Nicks
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Speaker 1: because they're all in the news lately, but that no,
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Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. I thought low hand Han Hancock,
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Speaker 1: Herbie Hancock. Okay. A lot of people, if they're gonna,
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Speaker 1: if they're gonna recommend Herbie Hancock album, they're gonna recommend Headhunters,
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Speaker 1: and they should because it's a fantastic album, amazing. However,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna recommend the album that my father once pulled
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Speaker 1: out of a stack of records in my living room
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Speaker 1: about fifteen years ago and gave me a look like
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Speaker 1: what the fuck is wrong with you? And that is
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Speaker 1: the Herbie Hancock album nineteen sixty nine. Fat Albert Rotunda. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I love that album.
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Speaker 3: Yes, and your dad hates it because I brought it
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Speaker 3: up to your dad once because I was it your dad.
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Speaker 1: It's gotta be he has a special loathing for it.
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Speaker 3: Yes, because I mentioned I was thinking of doing the
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Speaker 3: sound design for an episode along the lines of that,
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Speaker 3: and I mentioned to him and he was.
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Speaker 1: give me the buzzer beater. There was a time when
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Speaker 1: and I would listen to their ridiculous old guide takes
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Speaker 1: and feel so self satisfied with my youthful perspective, my
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Speaker 1: whatever modern point of view on whatever the hell it
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Speaker 1: saber metrics, and I was just like, whatever, man, whatever
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Speaker 1: helps Red Sox win. I don't care care what you
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Speaker 1: do to win, just win. Or how they couldn't deal
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Speaker 1: with Randy Moss's diva attitude, and I'd just be like,
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Speaker 1: who cares? Have you seen what that dude is doing
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Speaker 1: on the field with Tom Brady. Whatever gets us to
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Speaker 1: another Super Bowl. Whatever the argument was, I found myself
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Speaker 1: disagreeing with the old guide take. Fast forward to now
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Speaker 1: and I am filled with old guy takes. My son
26:04
Speaker 1: is playing flag football. He's on the Raiders, So I
26:07
Speaker 1: decided to go on YouTube and show him some clips
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Speaker 1: from Raider football in the seventies and eighties. And my
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Speaker 1: son is seventy years old. By the way, as soon
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Speaker 1: as the highlights start defensive highlights, that's all I'm showing them.
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Speaker 1: As soon as they start footage, of Jack Tatum, Howie Long,
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Speaker 1: Ted Hendricks just wrecking people on the hard astro turf,
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Speaker 1: pulling him down horse collar and dudes, almost every single
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Speaker 1: hit was head to head contact, just violent and literally
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Speaker 1: from the jump, every single hit, every single highlight. My
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Speaker 1: son starts going, that's illegal. That's illegal, Dad, you can't
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Speaker 1: do that. And I'm laughing because he's not wrong, because now, yes,
26:46
Speaker 1: all those hits are illegal, but then they were all legal,
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Speaker 1: every single one of them. And of course, sadly, today
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Speaker 1: this type of physical play in the NFL, it won't
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Speaker 1: just get the rest to pull their flags, it'll get
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Speaker 1: the offending players thrown out of the game, suspended in
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Speaker 1: some cases. Now, of course, being a proud member of
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Speaker 1: Generation X, I love this style of football and I
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Speaker 1: missed this style of football, and this was going to
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Speaker 1: be the topic of my rent today. But then I thought, damn, man,
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Speaker 1: what an old guy take. I'm the old guy, so
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna complain about
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Speaker 1: how things were better back in the day, because, man,
27:22
Speaker 1: Oman Dow, I detest being that guy. Yet here I
27:25
Speaker 1: am that guy, all right, Matt, how'd I do? Two
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Speaker 1: minutes and eighteen seconds, Jake, damn man, I think I
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Speaker 1: gotta get. I gotta get how we long to put
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Speaker 2: Technology is so high, right, right, So if you shoot somebody,
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Speaker 1: Oh that death?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Wild. All right, we're gonna get into this as
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Speaker 1: about the disgrace Land Vault real quick. In this episode,
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Speaker 1: All right, I gotta go, let's recap. Shall we? Number one,
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Speaker 1: this week's full episode on Kendrick Lamar. This new Disgracelane
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Speaker 1: episode is waiting for you right now. Number two Graham
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Speaker 1: born on June seventeenth, nineteen eighty seven, and this is
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