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Hour Two | Dr. Etheredge Talks Injuries, LSU’s TE Depth & Matt’s Top 10 QBs · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 4: joins us now doc we appreciate you fighting through the
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  Speaker 4: traffic to.
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  Speaker 5: Get here so it was it was it was touch
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  Speaker 5: and go i wasn't sure we're gonna make it on
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  Speaker 5: time but last second we had a little opening and
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  Speaker 5: we took it and We made it.
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  Speaker 4: Look, we've all almost been late to, you know, some
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  Speaker 4: football meetings before, and you think there's no way, but
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  Speaker 4: you find a way.
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  Speaker 2: Find a way.
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  Speaker 4: You know, like Coach Moffitt used to say, if that
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  Speaker 4: train's on the tracks, drag your bloody ass into this
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  Speaker 4: weight room.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 6: We got Moffitt in town this week. I know. I
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  Speaker 6: almost didn't say his name because he's the enemy this week.
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  Speaker 6: This week he is the enemy. We love you, though.
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  Speaker 7: I was wondering how I was supposed to get through
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  Speaker 7: that train, though. I was supposed to perfectly time the gap.
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  Speaker 6: Well, that's kind of his point.
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  Speaker 4: It's like– go over under through but yeah you drag
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  Speaker 4: your you know what into this weight room and he
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  Speaker 4: meant it i think i think probably right.
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  Speaker 8: Sometimes there's just no excuse.
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  Speaker 4: Uh there's a lot and i do mean a lot
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  Speaker 4: of injuries to kind of get to across the sports
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  Speaker 4: world uh we were kind of talking about a little
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  Speaker 4: bit before we jumped on here like the saints left
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  Speaker 4: tackle banks like he's gonna have tightrope i think i
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  Speaker 4: think that's the latest that i heard with him and
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  Speaker 4: that was something you and I talked about.
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  Speaker 6: It was in vogue there for a long time.
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  Speaker 4: And it's kind of like a procedure that everybody was
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  Speaker 4: talking about and to a tongue of my lower getting
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  Speaker 4: it in 2019 was probably where it really started to
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  Speaker 4: blow up. And so we're starting to hear it a
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  Speaker 4: little bit again, when you decide to do that. Well,
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  Speaker 4: first off, like I'll let you obviously explain like kind
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  Speaker 4: of what it is for some of our listeners, but
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  Speaker 4: when you decide to do that, why do you end
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  Speaker 4: up doing it opposed to letting it heal on its own?
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 5: So it's, It's a specific surgical procedure that's done for
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  Speaker 5: a high ankle sprain. When we talk about the ankle sprains,
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  Speaker 5: we break it down. Really, if you want to just
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  Speaker 5: be three basic types, you have a high ankle, lateral,
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  Speaker 5: and medial. The most common is the lateral. That's when
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  Speaker 5: you roll your foot in the outside of the ankle.
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  Speaker 5: You sprain some of those ligaments. Typically, that is the
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  Speaker 5: one we see most commonly. Medial is going to be
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  Speaker 5: the inside ligament. A little bit harder to do, but
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  Speaker 5: definitely happens a fair bit. And then the high ankle
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  Speaker 5: is there's a ligament that actually attaches the tibia and
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  Speaker 5: the fibula. So the two lower leg bones that kind
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  Speaker 5: of go down and form the top of the ankle joint.
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  Speaker 5: There's a ligament that hold or several ligaments that hold
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  Speaker 5: those together. And if you sprain those ligaments, that's a
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  Speaker 5: high ankle. Right. So it's reasonably common. We always hear
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  Speaker 5: about high ankles. So and the tightrope procedure is a
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  Speaker 5: surgical procedure where you literally go in. And essentially, you're
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  Speaker 5: putting a rope around those or through those, so something
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  Speaker 5: to kind of hold those two bones back together. It's
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  Speaker 5: a procedure that's become more and more common. It's gotten,
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  Speaker 5: over the years, we've kind of refined it and made
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  Speaker 5: it a little better. In the world of ankle surgeries,
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  Speaker 5: no surgery is simple and easy, but it's one that's
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  Speaker 5: become pretty commonplace now.
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  Speaker 6: How thick is this rope that you're putting in there?
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  Speaker 6: A fishing line?
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  Speaker 5: A little bit more than that, a little more substantial.
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  Speaker 5: You've got to have something, because again, you don't want
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  Speaker 5: it to break. You don't want that, because that kind
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  Speaker 5: of defeats the purpose.
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  Speaker 6: But then you also.
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  Speaker 5: And then one of the other problems initially is where
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  Speaker 5: they would fasten it on the bone. They would have
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  Speaker 5: some fractures. So they had to go back in and
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  Speaker 5: kind of redo some of those things. And so over time,
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  Speaker 5: we've got it down to a pretty, pretty safe procedure
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  Speaker 5: with very low complications. You're just basically making a new ligament.
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  Speaker 5: And you don't have to go back in and retrieve it.
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  Speaker 6: No, you can leave that in. And typically people do well.
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  Speaker 5: Like I said, there's been a few, especially some of
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  Speaker 5: the earlier versions where people would have some fractures around
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  Speaker 5: the site. And even that was not super common, but
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  Speaker 5: it happened and we're getting those, you know, it can
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  Speaker 5: still happen. Anything can happen, but typically no, you leave
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  Speaker 5: it alone. And so the question is, when do you
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  Speaker 5: do those? And really it comes into severity, how bad
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  Speaker 5: was the injury, which is kind of a determination through
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  Speaker 5: both imaging, we'll get the MRI, we'll look at it,
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  Speaker 5: and then your physical exam. Because sometimes it looks kind
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  Speaker 5: of bad in the MRI, but then you look at
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  Speaker 5: the ankle and you're like, hey, this guy looks great.
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  Speaker 5: I think in 2019, not to whatever, we had two
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  Speaker 5: guys that had almost the exact same injury at the
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  Speaker 5: exact same time. If I showed you the two MRIs
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  Speaker 5: side by side, you would not be able to tell
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  Speaker 5: me which one was one of these two guys, both
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  Speaker 5: high ankles.
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  Speaker 6: One of them needed surgery.
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  Speaker 5: One of them didn't because one of them, when we
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  Speaker 5: looked at his ankle on exam was pretty functional, he
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  Speaker 5: was able to kind of raise up on his foot.
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  Speaker 5: Some of the different tests that we look at the
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  Speaker 5: other one was not. So, so in that scenario, one
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  Speaker 5: guy got surgery, one guy didn't. And so a lot
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  Speaker 5: of it's a combination of all the above or how
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  Speaker 5: functional are they? And then, and then look circumstances. Well,
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  Speaker 5: you know, this is, if had been maybe me, you know,
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  Speaker 5: and all I got to do is walk around in
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  Speaker 5: a boot in my clinic, you know, maybe I'm not
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  Speaker 5: getting mine repaired, but if I'm a football player and
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  Speaker 5: this can get me back on the field, at you
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  Speaker 5: know two to four weeks instead of six to eight
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  Speaker 5: weeks you know that's a tremendous difference yeah and look
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  Speaker 5: and some people may say but that's that's the reality
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  Speaker 5: i mean at any level i would as a high
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  Speaker 5: school player if i was given that option i would
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  Speaker 5: do it let alone college and professional because it's a
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  Speaker 5: safe procedure too so it's not you know obviously you
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  Speaker 5: take all that into consideration so in this scenario i
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  Speaker 5: don't know the details but i'm assuming they looked at
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  Speaker 5: his and said hey this is a a more higher
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  Speaker 5: grade high ankle this is one that if we don't
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  Speaker 5: do anything with it he's probably going to be in
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  Speaker 5: a boot for several weeks probably maybe tail into the
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  Speaker 5: season getting back on the field Or we do the
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  Speaker 5: surgery and we shorten that, maybe cut that timeline in half, hopefully,
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  Speaker 5: as long as everything goes well.
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  Speaker 6: And that's probably where they're looking at it.
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  Speaker 7: Doc, I just had a wild thought listening to you
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  Speaker 7: give that description of the tightrope.
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  Speaker 8: So it's not something you go retrieve.
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  Speaker 7: So you're tying their bones together, basically, essentially latching them
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  Speaker 7: together with something very strong.
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  Speaker 8: And it's not retrieved.
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  Speaker 7: So your body's going to heal back to where it was,
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  Speaker 7: but you're still going to have, that device, the tight
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  Speaker 7: rope in there holding. And I would think that would
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  Speaker 7: make you potentially stronger by going for it after your
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  Speaker 7: body heals. And then you have this action. Do you
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  Speaker 7: ever see a moment like in the future, people getting
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  Speaker 7: like preventative surgery when they're completely healthy to make, I
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  Speaker 7: don't know, like tie their knee down, tie their ankle down,
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  Speaker 7: get a, put a plate in somewhere to make them
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  Speaker 7: less likely to get injured.
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  Speaker 5: You know, it's an interesting topic and yes, maybe someday,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I look, we're, we're, we're moving forward, revolving, we're,
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  Speaker 5: we're getting smarter, we're getting better. So I see a
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  Speaker 5: scenario where we find a way to make a super
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  Speaker 5: athlete or a super soldier or something like that, you know,
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  Speaker 5: and then kind of absolutely, you know, you know, I'm just.
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  Speaker 7: Thinking like this steel, like you got like a steel,
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  Speaker 7: like cable tying their bones together because it's injured.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 7: But at some point it's not going to be injured anymore.
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  Speaker 7: And then it's going to be tied together with a
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  Speaker 7: steel cable.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's, it's a feasible place that we could
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  Speaker 5: end up now.
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  Speaker 6: On the other hand, the thing I always think about,
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  Speaker 6: I don't have no rope for that ankle, buddy.
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  Speaker 5: One of the ones that was a big issue, I
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  Speaker 5: think it's kind of died down a lot, is you
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  Speaker 5: have parents that wanted their kids to get the Tommy
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  Speaker 5: John surgery because they heard they could make them throw faster, which, A,
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  Speaker 5: is a myth.
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  Speaker 6: It doesn't. And, B, no. Right now we're not there.
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  Speaker 5: But just to be very clear, I'm not advocating for
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  Speaker 5: anyone to go do any of this now.
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  Speaker 6: But, yeah, look, I like to think about the future.
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  Speaker 5: And, look, realistically, I'm sure that we may get there
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  Speaker 5: at some point, but we're definitely nowhere near that yet.
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  Speaker 6: So don't bring your kids into alignment.
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  Speaker 8: I'm an offensive lineman. Put a steel plate in my elbow,
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  Speaker 8: and I'll just.
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  Speaker 6: Of all the things to do, that's where you'd go?
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  Speaker 6: You want to steel plate in your elbow?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: I'm an MMA fighter. Steel plates in my knuckles.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, that makes more sense than the elbow on the
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  Speaker 4: offensive lineman. You were so, like, the question was so good,
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  Speaker 4: and then you flinned it.
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  Speaker 6: And that's where we went. And then you flinned it.
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  Speaker 2: It's all right.
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  Speaker 9: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Doc, we know there is an LCL, an MCL, and
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  Speaker 4: an ACL. We know about ACLs. Mahomes was ACL and
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  Speaker 4: LCL tear, and he came back, and he did it
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  Speaker 4: in December, which is remarkable.
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  Speaker 6: But we're seeing a ton of MCLs.
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  Speaker 4: ACL is going to be most of the time, LCL even,
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  Speaker 4: a tear. We're seeing a lot of MCL sprains. Is
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  Speaker 4: that just by chance? Is it something that you're seeing
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  Speaker 4: more often? Because I feel like NFL and college football,
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  Speaker 4: the reports are MCL sprains.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 5: So we typically see MCL sprains a lot. It is
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  Speaker 5: more common than the others typically. Now, sometimes you don't
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  Speaker 5: hear about them because, fortunately, less catastrophic. It is not
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  Speaker 5: an ACL where– the dreaded ACL, like we all see our,
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  Speaker 5: our favorite player go down. We're looking at the knee.
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  Speaker 5: We all go straight to thinking, Oh my gosh, hope
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  Speaker 5: it's not an ACL. Cause we know that's a big injury.
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  Speaker 5: That's a season ending injury. MCL is the ligament on
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  Speaker 5: the inside of the knee. So if you think about it, it's,
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  Speaker 5: it's kind of, it detaches basically on the inside that,
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  Speaker 5: and it prevents the lower leg from kind of angling
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  Speaker 5: out and what we call a valgus direction, but angling out. And,
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  Speaker 5: and so if you think about like cutting a lot
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  Speaker 5: of times you plant and cut, that's a common motion.
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  Speaker 5: And if your foot's kind of planted, especially, or if,
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  Speaker 5: or say you get a helmet to the knee or
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  Speaker 5: something else like that, causes your leg to kind of
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  Speaker 5: bend awkwardly where you're kind of hit from the outside
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  Speaker 5: bending towards the inside you can stretch and sometimes irritate
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  Speaker 5: that ligament it's it's it's an injury and it can
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  Speaker 5: be significant and there are times that it's a surgical
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  Speaker 5: injury but the overwhelming majority of these are treated conservatively
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  Speaker 5: most mcl injuries do not need surgery so if you
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  Speaker 5: have that injury you're very unlikely to have to have
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  Speaker 5: a surgical repair in your future if that's the only
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  Speaker 5: thing you do yeah Um, and then it's, it's an
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  Speaker 5: injury that, you know, depending on just like all the
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  Speaker 5: other things we talked about, it's all, you were talking
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  Speaker 5: about the high ankles, how severe is it? Well, with
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  Speaker 5: an MCL, it's kind of the same thing though, to,
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  Speaker 5: you know, a mild MCL sprain, you know, those guys
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  Speaker 5: might be back in the field in a week or two,
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  Speaker 5: you know, they might have a brace on, do some
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  Speaker 5: meds and things like that, but they can play in
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  Speaker 5: a week or two. And then you kind of go
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  Speaker 5: grade one, two, three. And when you get to that
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  Speaker 5: grade three, which is the higher end, those are the
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  Speaker 5: ones that will occasionally need surgery. But even then, a
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  Speaker 5: lot of those, you just got to let them heal.
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  Speaker 5: We'll do things to help it out. We'll get them
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  Speaker 5: in therapy. We'll sometimes immobilize it for a few weeks
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  Speaker 5: to let it kind of scar in and heal and
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  Speaker 5: sometimes other treatments that we do.
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  Speaker 8: To help it out.
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  Speaker 5: So, again, an isolated MCL is usually what you're kind
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  Speaker 5: of hoping for, honestly. Now, it can still be significant, though.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Like, best-case scenario type of deal? So, if a player gets,
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  Speaker 7: especially if you believe you have, like, a bright future
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  Speaker 7: ahead of you, obviously, like, trade has got hurt, and
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  Speaker 7: we don't know what it is. But, like, when you
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  Speaker 7: go down, everybody's going to think the worst-case scenario. obvious
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  Speaker 7: like as a it's human nature like everybody.
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  Speaker 6: I see somebody on the ground i'm like oh my god.
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  Speaker 7: Everybody watching i'm sure the coaches certainly he is thinking
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  Speaker 7: worst case scenario future all this stuff there's probably a
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  Speaker 7: billion things going through your mind yeah you go out
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  Speaker 7: on the field you're one of the first people out
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  Speaker 7: there you are doing we're we're working with the knee
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  Speaker 7: what are like the mobility things that we see doctors
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  Speaker 7: do with the knee How much can that tell you
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  Speaker 7: on the field? And what messages are you relaying to
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  Speaker 7: the player in that situation?
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  Speaker 2: That's a good question.
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  Speaker 6: So you can find out a lot.
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  Speaker 5: And sometimes, especially that initial evaluation, because sometimes once the
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  Speaker 5: athlete really starts thinking about it, it's called guarding where
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  Speaker 5: you kind of tense up. And so you start guarding
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  Speaker 5: more for one. Sometimes as time goes by, the knee
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  Speaker 5: or whatever we're looking at might swell. It might get
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  Speaker 5: a little bit more stiff. They're starting to feel more
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  Speaker 5: and more of the pain because the adrenaline is wearing off.
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  Speaker 5: So sometimes you get your best evaluation in those first
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  Speaker 5: few minutes, whether it's on the field or when we
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  Speaker 5: bring them.
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  Speaker 6: Into the tent.
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  Speaker 5: So sometimes a, we were wanting to try and get
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  Speaker 5: that quick eval. So we already have an idea of
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  Speaker 5: what we think it is. You know, sometimes it's obvious.
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  Speaker 5: Sometimes you can tell, you know, if you get a
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  Speaker 5: knee and you're testing that ACL and it's just wide open,
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  Speaker 5: super loose. And it's just like, dadgummit, this guy tore
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  Speaker 5: his ACL.
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  Speaker 6: Other times it's a little bit iffy. It's not so obvious,
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  Speaker 6: you know, and, and, And then.
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  Speaker 5: Part of it is, you know, we want to make
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  Speaker 5: sure that we treat it immediately the way it needs
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  Speaker 5: to be, because if we're worried about a more serious,
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  Speaker 5: you know, they break something where they shouldn't put weight
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  Speaker 5: on it. Is it something that maybe had a full
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  Speaker 5: knee dislocation, which is more of a medical emergency. So
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  Speaker 5: you want to get that initially vow to know, Hey,
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  Speaker 5: can I get this guy up? Is it okay to
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  Speaker 5: walk them off the field or do we need to
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  Speaker 5: get the cart? And also, so you can already kind
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  Speaker 5: of start planning what your, your message is going to be.
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  Speaker 5: You know, we're never going to tell a guy on
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  Speaker 5: the field, like, Hey, I think you tore your ACL. You,
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  Speaker 5: you know, you want to, you want to say, Hey, look,
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  Speaker 5: let's get you in the tent. Let's take a look
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  Speaker 5: at it. And even then, you know, We still– because
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  Speaker 5: how you package it, that's a big part of this. Because, look,
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  Speaker 5: to your point, this guy, this is– whether it's whoever
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  Speaker 5: you're talking about.
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  Speaker 6: They're at any level. They love what they do. They
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  Speaker 6: don't want to miss a game. They don't want surgery.
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  Speaker 6: Work hard to get to that point.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you work so hard, and this is– you're finally
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  Speaker 5: getting to go out there and play. And, man, it's
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  Speaker 5: the worst when you have to tell these guys, you know, hey,
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  Speaker 5: you're going to be out for an extended period. So
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  Speaker 5: it's something we also kind of build into. So, you know,
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  Speaker 5: you might get them in the tent and say, hey, look,
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  Speaker 5: I think this might be a bad injury, but let's
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  Speaker 5: take a look at it.
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  Speaker 6: Let's get some imaging done.
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  Speaker 5: Or if we feel really good about it, we say, hey,
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  Speaker 5: I think we dodged a bullet here. Let's get you
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  Speaker 5: out maybe. And if they look really good, we might
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  Speaker 5: have them go out and do some jogging on the sideline,
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  Speaker 5: do some drills and see how they respond.
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  Speaker 6: So there's a lot of variability.
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  Speaker 5: But, you know, on the field, it's a combination of
• 13:09
  Speaker 5: let's get a quick idea so we kind of know
• 13:11
  Speaker 5: what we need to do next and let's make sure
• 13:13
  Speaker 5: it's safe to move.
• 13:13
  Speaker 6: And there's a little bit of both.
• 13:14
  Speaker 7: So, like, on the mobility, sometimes you could feel it
• 13:17
  Speaker 7: so loose you just automatically know.
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: Sometimes.
• 13:19
  Speaker 8: You haven't felt any of those recently.
• 13:21
  Speaker 6: Well, you know, it happens.
• 13:22
  Speaker 8: It happens, you know.
• 13:23
  Speaker 9: So.
• 13:24
  Speaker 5: Um, but, but, but, you know, look, it's, it's, you know,
• 13:27
  Speaker 5: you hope that it's not that scenario where you're, you're
• 13:29
  Speaker 5: immediately aware.
• 13:30
  Speaker 6: Cause those are those, those, you kind of know.
• 13:31
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's sometimes, and we were kind of joking
• 13:34
  Speaker 4: before as well, like with Caleb Williams, bears quarterback, he
• 13:38
  Speaker 4: went down and it looked like worst case scenario. Now
• 13:41
  Speaker 4: we didn't really know what it was, but I mean,
• 13:43
  Speaker 4: he got carded off. He's emotional. He gives the thumbs up.
• 13:46
  Speaker 8: Have you ever brought the card in for a mild
• 13:48
  Speaker 8: hamstring pull?
• 13:50
  Speaker 5: I don't know if we have, um, But I'm not
• 13:53
  Speaker 5: saying we wouldn't, just to be fair. Because, again, a
• 13:55
  Speaker 5: lot of it is emotional. These guys, they work so hard.
• 13:58
  Speaker 6: We've all been there. You know how hard it is
• 14:00
  Speaker 6: just to get to day one.
• 14:02
  Speaker 5: And then, especially if you're a guy that's a Caleb
• 14:05
  Speaker 5: Williams and you're finally playing well, you're a guy like
• 14:07
  Speaker 5: some of our players that this is their year. This
• 14:10
  Speaker 5: is your chance to shine, to show out, to be
• 14:12
  Speaker 5: the best you've ever been. And especially at college level,
• 14:15
  Speaker 5: if you're a year three guy, you're going to be
• 14:17
  Speaker 5: better than you are in year one or two. That
• 14:19
  Speaker 5: growth is so immense at that age. This is my year.
• 14:22
  Speaker 5: And then all of a sudden you're faced with the
• 14:23
  Speaker 5: possibility that, no, it's not. And that's awful.
• 14:27
  Speaker 4: It definitely is. And even if you're out a week,
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: you feel like that's the worst.
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: The worst week.
• 14:33
  Speaker 6: I mean, you know. I mean, you had to set
• 14:35
  Speaker 6: up big games.
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 14:37
  Speaker 6: SEC championship.
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: SEC championship game.
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: I mean, hell, I hated sitting out week 17 in
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: the NFL when we were already knocked out of the playoffs.
• 14:45
  Speaker 6: It's not fun. I missed one game.
• 14:47
  Speaker 5: It was a jamboree my junior year. And I still
• 14:50
  Speaker 5: remember it. I still remember how just sitting there, I
• 14:53
  Speaker 5: was just chewing my lip, like wanting to be out there.
• 14:55
  Speaker 6: And just, it was, I can close my eyes and
• 14:58
  Speaker 6: feel it now, and I'm old. Yeah, no doubt.
• 15:00
  Speaker 8: You're not old, Doc.
• 15:01
  Speaker 6: You're seasoned.
• 15:02
  Speaker 8: I got to tell you, and this is, you got
• 15:05
  Speaker 8: to remember, I tell people this a lot.
• 15:06
  Speaker 6: He's not just some guy.
• 15:07
  Speaker 8: I'm not just some guy. I'm a male model.
• 15:11
  Speaker 7: Doc, you were aura farming out there the other day
• 15:14
  Speaker 7: on the TV.
• 15:15
  Speaker 8: My God, the hair looked great.
• 15:17
  Speaker 7: You looked handsome as hell.
• 15:20
  Speaker 8: My God, I don't like to see you. I don't
• 15:22
  Speaker 8: want to see you.
• 15:23
  Speaker 6: I'm with you. I tell people all the time.
• 15:25
  Speaker 8: But I got to tell you, you're looking pretty good
• 15:27
  Speaker 8: out there.
• 15:27
  Speaker 6: Well, I appreciate that.
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: Don't go out there this week. I want to do
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: my best. I love being the extra, not one of
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: the more.
• 15:34
  Speaker 8: Stay your ass on the sidelines, Doc.
• 15:36
  Speaker 6: See me in the background, kind of blend it in there.
• 15:38
  Speaker 6: Fair enough. Hey, Doc, we appreciate it, sir. Thank you.
• 15:40
  Speaker 8: Always a pleasure. All right, Dr.
• 15:41
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to Off the Bench. Wednesday's show is brought
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  Speaker 4: Because Flynn's going to wear the Canadian tuxedo. Hold on
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: to those receipts too, people. Those natty back guarantee receipts.
• 19:16
  Speaker 8: Hold on to them.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: You never know.
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: When else she wins a natty, Sam?
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: Whether they get it.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Like free?
• 19:23
  Speaker 7: There was a natty back here, too. Like, you bought
• 19:25
  Speaker 7: it under that promotion.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: You get a refund.
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, if you bought it before the season. And they
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: win the natty. When they win the natty.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: When they win the natty.
• 19:33
  Speaker 8: Get sure for free.
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  Speaker 2: Pretty cool. Hold on to those receipts. That's as good
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: as mine. I want to hold on to that one.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: I owe you.
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: We did see way too much of Doc last night.
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: Week.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: We did. We did.
• 19:52
  Speaker 8: Go back.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: I don't want to see him again.
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: Tyro procedure, like your question, it's actually a valid one.
• 20:04
  Speaker 8: Thank you. I thought so.
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: One of the very few good questions that you've had recently.
• 20:08
  Speaker 8: I had to do that segment. dose but like if you.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: Have ankle problems and there's people that have ankle issues
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: yeah no issues you definitely did why would you not
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: like in february.
• 20:23
  Speaker 7: Could do that on both ankles yeah just tie these
• 20:27
  Speaker 7: bones together doc yeah you know what while you're at
• 20:29
  Speaker 7: it time to my feet.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Bones why would you time to your feet i don't
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: know make you stronger.
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: Probably feels like the flexibility would go away at that point.
• 20:40
  Speaker 8: They got some really cool metals out there.
• 20:43
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I feel like if you tied your ankles to
• 20:45
  Speaker 10: your feet, yeah, you wouldn't have a lot of ankle mobility.
• 20:50
  Speaker 8: Yeah, well, maybe so.
• 20:52
  Speaker 10: Like if you reinforced it with steel.
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah, feels like it would just be like always flipped
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: up a little bit.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so you'd be like running on your heel all
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: the time and your heel would probably take effects from that.
• 21:03
  Speaker 8: Maybe. You don't know. You don't know what kind of
• 21:06
  Speaker 8: technology they have out there.
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: We just had a doctor tell us. Are you saying
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: you're smarter than Doc?
• 21:14
  Speaker 8: Well, my brother is a doctor, so.
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: It's in the blood.
• 21:17
  Speaker 10: It runs in the family.
• 21:18
  Speaker 8: It's in the genes.
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: That's fair. That's fair. Oh, man. Tradez is obviously a
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: massive loss.
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: His mom came in on social media and did say
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: that it was an MCL sprain. I've had one of
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: those before. It's not even really the pain itself. It's
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: when you go to cut, when you go to accelerate,
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: it just doesn't happen. It's almost like it's numb, and
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: you go to press off that leg, that knee, and
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: it just doesn't go anywhere. So it's one of those, like,
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: you can't really tough it out. It's not a toughness situation.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: It is one that's got to stabilize itself. It's got
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: to have time to rest and heal and all those things.
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: And we know how good trade as green is. Like,
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: that's the.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: Obvious part of this, but it's also.
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: You don't have anybody else like him and not many
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: teams do.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: So I want to make sure we get that out there,
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: but even like your backup tight ends, aren't the same
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: type of player that trade as green is. So like
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: Zach grace, who we saw, you know, Sam Levitt had
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: at the goal line there. So we talked about that
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: in the film review. He's more, I don't want to
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: say he's a fullback. He's, he's more athletic than that,
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: but he is like an H back where he's kind
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: of a hybrid guy. He is going to be a
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: guy that can put his hand in the dirt, be
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: a Y tight end that's attached to the tackle and,
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: He's going to be in some different positions lined up
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: in the backfield. But he's not going to be the
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: same guy splitting out into the slot, trade-ass wise. And
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: trade-ass has gotten really good as a blocker, too.
• 22:48
  Speaker 8: Really good. Really effective. And he has not been afraid.
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: You're losing a lot when you lose trade-ass green.
• 22:55
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: I think one of the best surprises, and maybe it
• 23:01
  Speaker 7: shouldn't be a surprise, has been his ability to block.
• 23:05
  Speaker 7: his willingness to block, and the amount they've used him to,
• 23:09
  Speaker 7: whether it's cutting off the backside end, whether it's lead
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: blocking to the second level, whether it's just one-on-one with
• 23:16
  Speaker 7: a defensive end or an edge rusher, he has, they
• 23:21
  Speaker 7: have used him quite often. And pass protection, sometimes, I
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: don't like pass protection with one of your best targets,
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: but when he's had to do it, he's done it effectively.
• 23:32
  Speaker 7: So you are going to miss that. aspect of his game,
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: which also helps him get open. That's why tight ends
• 23:38
  Speaker 7: are so highly valued at the NFL level now, because
• 23:41
  Speaker 7: they do create hesitation from linebackers and safeties who do
• 23:45
  Speaker 7: have to cover him because there's the threat to block.
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: There's a threat to go into a route. So it
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: is a big loss, and, yes, the depth there is
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: in question. But you know what? That's why we've got
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: a very high-paid offensive coaching staff. is to adjust and
• 24:05
  Speaker 7: adapt to these scenarios.
• 24:07
  Speaker 8: And, you know, are you going to be, you know,
• 24:11
  Speaker 8: is it going to look the same? No.
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: Offensively, I expect some things to be a little bit different,
• 24:14
  Speaker 7: but you are. You've got to have a next man
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: up mentality a little bit to a certain extent, but
• 24:19
  Speaker 7: you also have to put your offense in the best position,
• 24:22
  Speaker 7: which right now is being out. You do have to
• 24:24
  Speaker 7: put yourself in the best position to get your best
• 24:27
  Speaker 7: playmakers the ball. So maybe we see a little bit
• 24:31
  Speaker 7: more 10 personnel. Maybe we see, I don't know, maybe
• 24:35
  Speaker 7: you see 20. I have no idea.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: So for our listeners, 20 personnel is going to be
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: two backs, three receivers. Ten personnel is going to be
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: one back, four receivers. And so you're taking the tight
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: end kind of out of the game plan there. I
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: always love 20 personnel. A little pony package is what
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: we called it. I thought it was always really good.
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: You can be in gun, split backs, have three receivers
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: out in the route. Clears up a lot of protection stuff, too.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: One bat can stay in. The other can scat. Kind
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: of free release. So, I like that.
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: Like, I don't know how on the fly you can
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: do with that, but.
• 25:11
  Speaker 7: I'm sure Lane's listening. So, Lane, just do a little 20.
• 25:13
  Speaker 7: A little bit of 20.
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: Every time I see him, I try to talk about
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: 21 personnel.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: I hadn't done it yet, though. You want 22. Oh,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: I love 22.
• 25:27
  Speaker 8: Nothing gets the juices flowing like 22 personnel.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. With a clap count.
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah, two backs, two tight ends.
• 25:36
  Speaker 11: Still don't know how we got the defense to jump
• 25:38
  Speaker 11: off sides more. It's such a good fake. It's like
• 25:45
  Speaker 11: the elbow. They, like, swirl the elbows when they fake clap.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to find Zach Grace's career stats, and I'm
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: having a hard time.
• 26:01
  Speaker 8: On the internet?
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: On the internet.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: Did you ask?
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: I've seen a lot of participation.
• 26:07
  Speaker 8: Did you ask George Paul Thomas?
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: Not yet. No, I was trying to do my own research.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: Why? Why?
• 26:17
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: Because I want it to be factual? I don't know.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: That's a shot to George.
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: I mean, not all of it's, I mean. All right.
• 26:29
  Speaker 10: I have some stuff.
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: Okay, you have actual stats?
• 26:32
  Speaker 10: From Oregon?
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 26:35
  Speaker 10: As a redshirt freshman, he appeared in 10 games.
• 26:38
  Speaker 9: Okay.
• 26:38
  Speaker 10: He played 41 snaps on offense.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 26:41
  Speaker 10: 20 in the backfield as a fullback.
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: You're seeing the same I'm seeing.
• 26:45
  Speaker 9: Okay.
• 26:45
  Speaker 10: 74 pass blocking grade from PFF.
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: Are you noticing the other thing that I'm seeing?
• 26:50
  Speaker 10: The fullback?
• 26:51
  Speaker 9: No.
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: 2024, 10 games played, no receptions. 2025, 14 games played,
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: no receptions.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: 2026... Two games played, two targets, no receptions.
• 27:04
  Speaker 8: Who is this again?
• 27:05
  Speaker 10: Zach Grace.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: 44, the guy in the end.
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: The backup. Backup tight end, the guy in the end zone.
• 27:08
  Speaker 8: He was a fullback. He looked very much like him.
• 27:12
  Speaker 10: He took snaps as one.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: I'm not seeing a career catch.
• 27:16
  Speaker 10: In Oregon, not one.
• 27:18
  Speaker 8: Yet.
• 27:19
  Speaker 10: I mean, he didn't have one in the game.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: He's going to catch for two touchdowns this week.
• 27:22
  Speaker 9: Watch. Watch.
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: I think so.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: I hope so.
• 27:25
  Speaker 10: Okay, on that note, somebody texted and they said, is
• 27:27
  Speaker 10: it just me, but every time Matt predicts LSU winning something,
• 27:30
  Speaker 10: we lose?
• 27:30
  Speaker 8: I predict him every week.
• 27:32
  Speaker 10: So you're going to get like zero receptions from Zach Grace.
• 27:36
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: He's going to have negative two receptions first in the
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: history of football.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Wide receiver screen first play to him.
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: Just to get him in the game?
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Just get him involved in the game plan. Yep.
• 27:47
  Speaker 9: Oh, boy.
• 27:48
  Speaker 10: Now Malachi Thomas at Pitt. Last year had 13.
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: Okay. That's 13 times more than Zach had.
• 27:58
  Speaker 10: He had two the year before.
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: That's two times more.
• 28:01
  Speaker 10: 15 total receptions. Only started once at Pitt.
• 28:06
  Speaker 8: Well, honestly, guys, this is why you bring in 25 receivers.
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: We did see.
• 28:11
  Speaker 8: This is one of the reasons.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: Roman Mothershed did come in and kind of play the
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: F in that last play. He was the crosser that
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: got the ball thrown to him way too soon. Should
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: have waited to get inside the tackle box.
• 28:25
  Speaker 10: And he's a receiver that they moved to tight end.
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he's like 210, 215. Bigger body. Hey, what do
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: they say? It takes a village, right?
• 28:35
  Speaker 10: It takes a village. Tight end by committee. You could
• 28:43
  Speaker 10: really use a Daquan Wright right now.
• 28:45
  Speaker 8: What is the F again to you? That's a receiving
• 28:47
  Speaker 8: tight end?
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: And the Y is a block. And H is a
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: tight end fullback.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: I still can't wrap my head around this. Why?
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: It's the F in the offense. Like, regardless of who
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: it is, the F could have been Gates. It could
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: have been me.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: It could have been.
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: And that's a fullback?
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  Speaker 12: No.
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  Speaker 6: It's just the position on the team.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: But what does he do? Lines up where the F does. Like,
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: in double formation, like double right, I'm in the slot
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: to the left. Tripp's right.
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: I'm in the inside on the right.
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  Speaker 8: Why would you ever line up as a receiver?
• 29:20
  Speaker 9: You.
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: I did it all the time in San Diego, like
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: in double.
• 29:26
  Speaker 7: I was just going to take a shot at you
• 29:28
  Speaker 7: and your little legs.
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: Your little legs. But for real, what is the body
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: type of an F? See, in that offense, it wasn't
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: a body type. It was the position.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Because.
• 29:40
  Speaker 8: It's just personnel group.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: Norv wanted everybody. So, in 12 personnel, if you ran
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: double right, the F's same position. If we're in 21 personnel,
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: double right.
• 29:49
  Speaker 9: Okay.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: So, the F was more, it was, it was built in. Actually,
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: Denver was the same way, too.
• 29:55
  Speaker 8: I feel like only one of my offenses kept the
• 29:58
  Speaker 8: same five letters.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Was it a West Coast offense?
• 30:01
  Speaker 9: No.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: What was it?
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: Was it a number system?
• 30:03
  Speaker 8: It was the Raiders, I think. It wasn't a good offense.
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: Don't act like the Raiders did anything.
• 30:07
  Speaker 9: No.
• 30:08
  Speaker 8: No, I didn't like that.
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: I loved it. It told everybody what to do. There's
• 30:12
  Speaker 6: a lot on the quarterback.
• 30:14
  Speaker 8: So the offenses that don't do that don't know what to.
• 30:18
  Speaker 9: Do?
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: I'm saying it told, like, if you had a missed
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: assignment in this offense, you're a dum-dum. Because it told
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: everybody what to do. Well, so does every offense. No, but, like,
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: your offense that you're talking about could be a code word,
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: and you can be like, if you don't know the
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: code word.
• 30:33
  Speaker 8: No, it's not a code word. Just like your personal, like,
• 30:35
  Speaker 8: the letters change. Like, a receiver would never.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: Be an F.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: But I know what you're saying, but this one would
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: be double right would be the formation, key left would
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: be the protection, and then literally 9-2-2-9, and then you
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: tag the H. So you literally know by the number.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: I'm so glad I didn't play with you all.
• 30:51
  Speaker 9: I love it.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: So happy.
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: Told everybody what to do.
• 30:55
  Speaker 8: So does every play.
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: No, but you know what I mean.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: No, I don't.
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: You can do concept and dum-dum on the outsides like, uh,
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: what do I got?
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: This tells you what you got. Like I said, it's
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: a lot of heavy lifting for the quarterback. Verbiage is
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: pretty long. I mean, our verbiage was not short. Told
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: everybody what to do, though.
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: You're being hard-headed.
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying mine was right as far as the
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: way to do it, but I'm telling you, that's why
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: we did it.
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: That is a.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: North Turner, Dallas Cowboys, Super Bowl three-time three-peat champion.
• 31:31
  Speaker 10: Three-peat?
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: That's when that offense started. Three's up. I'm sure you
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: celebrated for that offense, buddy. I'm sure you liked the
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: Cowboys growing up.
• 31:38
  Speaker 8: I'll take it all back.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: All right, we'll take a break. More OTB when we
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  Speaker 6: come back.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to Off the Bench. Wednesday's show is brought
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: to you by Poncho.
• 33:05
  Speaker 9: She says she usually don't.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: But I know that she fun.
• 33:14
  Speaker 8: Cause she don't know.
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: What she want.
• 33:15
  Speaker 12: But she don't want to seem like she easy. I
• 33:20
  Speaker 12: hear you saying what you want to do. But you
• 33:23
  Speaker 12: know we're probably gonna do What you've been feeling deep
• 33:28
  Speaker 12: inside Girl.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: What you drinking?
• 33:31
  Speaker 12: Don't let it sink in Here for the weekend, thinking
• 33:34
  Speaker 12: we can See what we can be if we press
• 33:37
  Speaker 12: fast forward Just one.
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: More round and you're down.
• 33:39
  Speaker 12: I know But the feeling of the cup cup feeling
• 33:42
  Speaker 12: on your butt butt You don't even care, man, I
• 33:45
  Speaker 12: was unaware I find you was before my birthday My birthday.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: All right, welcome back in OTB here live from the
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: Razor Cane Studio. While Flynn tries to figure out technology,
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• 34:54
  Speaker 4: more information. Wasn't your fault with the technology?
• 35:00
  Speaker 8: No, of course not.
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: I thought quarterbacks were supposed to pat their chest no
• 35:03
  Speaker 6: matter what.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: You're right.
• 35:05
  Speaker 8: That's on me. I'm a business owner. Technology is my thing,
• 35:10
  Speaker 8: you know?
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: I'm going to say this, and I don't want you
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: to get your feelings hurt. What if you would have
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: sent it at 810 and not 840?
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: Um....
• 35:25
  Speaker 7: I like dealing with things that actually happened, not unrealistic
• 35:28
  Speaker 7: things like that, Jake.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: All right, fair enough.
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: We'll do your top ten quarterbacks.
• 35:35
  Speaker 8: At nine?
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: No, we can do them in the next segment. We'll
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: take a break, you know, on time.
• 35:39
  Speaker 9: Oh.
• 35:40
  Speaker 6: Then we can do it in the last segment.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: I think that's fair.
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: Just go ahead and rip the Band-Aid off. Which one's
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: going to piss us off the most?
• 35:51
  Speaker 7: I don't think any of them should piss you off.
• 35:54
  Speaker 7: I think my list last week was fantastic. This one
• 35:59
  Speaker 7: might even be better. No, we don't need to do
• 36:04
  Speaker 7: that right now. Oh, we're not doing it right now, bro.
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: What are we doing?
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: We're going to take a break on time, like in
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: a minute and a half, and then we'll come back.
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: Because I didn't know that we would get it in
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: this segment.
• 36:15
  Speaker 9: Okay.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: And I wanted Flynn to have enough time to explain
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: himself whenever he makes us mad.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: Sure. You're coming up in a second.
• 36:22
  Speaker 8: You shouldn't get mad. This is a perfect list.
• 36:24
  Speaker 7: And it's probably one of the greatest honors of these
• 36:26
  Speaker 7: quarterbacks' life is to make it on the world.
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: Probably not.
• 36:32
  Speaker 8: And this plays a really big part in who gets
• 36:34
  Speaker 8: the My High Zero.
• 36:35
  Speaker 10: Player of the Year.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Player of the Year at the.
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: End of the year.
• 36:38
  Speaker 8: Pepsi doesn't, so we're going to do it too.
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: Is that how it started?
• 36:42
  Speaker 8: Yeah, because who got, somebody got.
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: Chuck.
• 36:46
  Speaker 8: Chuck got the Diet Pepsi. Pepsi Zero. Pepsi Zero. Pepsi Zero.
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: Player of the Year.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Player of the Year.
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: Rookie of the Year.
• 36:54
  Speaker 10: Rookie of the year.
• 36:54
  Speaker 6: That's a lot of heavy lifting.
• 36:57
  Speaker 10: So we gave him the my high.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Obviously, we responded. Had to.
• 37:03
  Speaker 6: You didn't have a choice?
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Back was against the wall.
• 37:09
  Speaker 6: Did drip drop have one too? No.
• 37:12
  Speaker 8: That's not real company. Stuff will kill you.
• 37:21
  Speaker 10: Sometimes I see electrolytes, and I'm like, there's no way
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  Speaker 10: that you actually do anything.
• 37:25
  Speaker 8: Yeah, me too. Oh, yeah. Most are like that. I
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  Speaker 6: We're not buying that. We leave it on the shelf, bud.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you leave it?
• 37:37
  Speaker 8: Well, a lot of people do. They buy that expensive pee.
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  Speaker 8: They love it.
• 37:41
  Speaker 7: Oh, look at all this stuff. Look at all these
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  Speaker 7: things that are in this product.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Look at us do it. Yes, that's doing something.
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: It's pee.
• 37:48
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's not going to your, doing what you think
• 37:51
  Speaker 7: it is. You're not metabolizing that. You're just peeing that out.
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: On that note.
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: All right, so we'll take a break. We'll come back.
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: We've got the top 10 list ready to go. We'll
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: get through it here. We'll yell at Flynn when we
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to Off the Bench. Wednesday's show is brought
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: to you by Poncho.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: You don't believe his stories. You know that there are lies.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: Bad as you are. You stick around and I just
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: don't know why.
• 39:51
  Speaker 12: If I was your man, baby, you'd never worry about
• 39:55
  Speaker 12: what I'd do.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: I'd be coming home back to you.
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: All right, welcome back in, OTB. Shout out to.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: Mario.
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: And no shout out to Matt Flynn because I know
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: this quarterback list is going to piss me off.
• 40:14
  Speaker 8: Phillip Rivers is not on it.
• 40:16
  Speaker 6: It would have been last year, maybe. That one week. Yeah.
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: Against the world champions.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: Pretty nimble.
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: Hey, it was never nimble, so.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 40:28
  Speaker 8: Let's get to it.
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: Let's get mad at Matt Flynn's top 10 NFL quarterbacks.
• 40:32
  Speaker 8: All right. Do we have some NFL music?
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I got it. I forgot it. My bad.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: That's okay.
• 40:37
  Speaker 8: Don't worry about it.
• 40:37
  Speaker 10: We're super professional.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: We're on the phone.
• 40:41
  Speaker 8: Week two. top quarterback list in the NFL. Look, check
• 40:46
  Speaker 8: this out. New part of the graphic kicked out of
• 40:49
  Speaker 8: the top 10.
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: These pictures are so bad.
• 40:52
  Speaker 7: My God, George Paul Thomas cannot put their real pictures out.
• 40:56
  Speaker 7: So just outside of the top 10, Caleb Williams, you're out.
• 41:00
  Speaker 7: You were number two last week. That's what you get
• 41:01
  Speaker 7: for faking an injury. Give it a thumbs up. You
• 41:04
  Speaker 7: look great in the mustache.
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: So it was number two last week.
• 41:08
  Speaker 8: He's actually out because of injury. I got two people
• 41:10
  Speaker 8: out for injury, Caleb and Mr. Jackson Dartley.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: That picture.
• 41:13
  Speaker 8: Most standard-looking white guy. Jared Goff, you're also out. Trevor Lawrence,
• 41:17
  Speaker 8: you're out.
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: Wow. Who's in?
• 41:21
  Speaker 8: That also means they're on the boat. Well, we're about
• 41:22
  Speaker 8: to find out.
• 41:23
  Speaker 7: Number 10, Drew Locke, backup quarterback, Seattle Seahawks.
• 41:27
  Speaker 10: I put on for my, oh, yeah.
• 41:29
  Speaker 7: I mean, come on, our guy. And he also has
• 41:32
  Speaker 7: tiny hands as well.
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: I didn't notice.
• 41:35
  Speaker 8: Well, don't you remember that coming out of college?
• 41:37
  Speaker 6: I just remember a celebration when he was at Mizzou.
• 41:39
  Speaker 9: Yep.
• 41:40
  Speaker 7: Well, anyway, the dude's playing his face off right now.
• 41:43
  Speaker 7: And guess what? 48 to 77, 556 yards.
• 41:47
  Speaker 8: Four tutters. A couple of picks.
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: Also 120 yards rushing.
• 41:51
  Speaker 7: So he's playing really well. The Seahawks, very good. So
• 41:54
  Speaker 7: he's a benefactor of that. I don't care. He's playing
• 41:57
  Speaker 7: really good. So I showed him a little backup quarterback
• 41:59
  Speaker 7: respect at number 10. All right, let's go to number nine.
• 42:04
  Speaker 7: Somewhere out there, Taylor Sharp is smiling.
• 42:07
  Speaker 8: Dak Prescott.
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: Actually, he doesn't like Dak. Because he's an idiot when
• 42:11
  Speaker 6: it comes to quarterbacks. We love you, though.
• 42:13
  Speaker 7: Well, your quarterback for the Cowboys is in the top
• 42:16
  Speaker 7: ten list this week. And that played really good last week.
• 42:18
  Speaker 7: I mean, he's got 600. He's got a lot of passes.
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: This picture's not doing him any justice.
• 42:25
  Speaker 9: No.
• 42:27
  Speaker 6: Are these, like. These are AI pictures.
• 42:31
  Speaker 7: I think this is wrong, too. Come on, George Paul
• 42:34
  Speaker 7: Thomas on his stats. He doesn't have that many yards.
• 42:37
  Speaker 7: But he is playing really well.
• 42:39
  Speaker 8: He does have good receivers.
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: All right, let's go to number eight. Lamar Jackson.
• 42:45
  Speaker 8: That picture's bad.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: That picture's bad.
• 42:47
  Speaker 8: Lamar Jackson.
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: These AI picks.
• 42:49
  Speaker 8: These AI picks are brutal.
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: Down five.
• 42:52
  Speaker 8: He slips five spots.
• 42:54
  Speaker 7: To number eight. But you know what? He's still Lamar Jackson.
• 42:57
  Speaker 7: Two-time MVP. Only 29 years old. Only a couple years
• 43:01
  Speaker 7: older than Trinidad Chambliss himself.
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: We're only a couple years older.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: That's good.
• 43:06
  Speaker 8: Number eight, Lamar Jackson. He's the guy.
• 43:08
  Speaker 7: I don't have to really explain it to you, but
• 43:10
  Speaker 7: you're going to lose to the Saints. You're going to
• 43:12
  Speaker 7: fall five spots. Sorry about it. He's going to be
• 43:15
  Speaker 7: jumping all over the place all year long. All right,
• 43:17
  Speaker 7: let's go to number seven.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: New to the list, Mr.
• 43:20
  Speaker 8: Joey Bates.
• 43:22
  Speaker 6: Sir Joseph. Joe Burrow.
• 43:25
  Speaker 8: Man, Cincinnati looks good. Guess what? They got a defense.
• 43:29
  Speaker 7: They got a team around Sir Joseph Burrow. Me thinks
• 43:33
  Speaker 7: he's going to have a good year.
• 43:35
  Speaker 10: Me thinks so, too.
• 43:37
  Speaker 8: Me thinks so, too.
• 43:38
  Speaker 6: Me thinks Alondra likes Joe Burrow. I love him.
• 43:43
  Speaker 7: If Joe Burrow is healthy, he's got a team around him.
• 43:46
  Speaker 7: He's going to be in the top ten list all
• 43:49
  Speaker 7: year long.
• 43:50
  Speaker 6: Him and Lamar.
• 43:52
  Speaker 10: Or him and Jamar.
• 43:54
  Speaker 8: Y'all ready?
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: Hey!
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: There he is.
• 43:57
  Speaker 8: I told y'all that I bucked.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: You do buck.
• 44:00
  Speaker 8: I buck for Shuck.
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: I take it back. If you don't give a damn,
• 44:02
  Speaker 6: we don't give a shuck.
• 44:03
  Speaker 8: He has got a brutal AI photo as well.
• 44:06
  Speaker 10: That's awesome.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Number six, Tyler Shuck.
• 44:07
  Speaker 10: That looks like Taysom Hill.
• 44:08
  Speaker 8: Leading the league in passing yards.
• 44:10
  Speaker 6: Like an Irish Taysom Hill.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:11
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 44:12
  Speaker 6: Yes, George Paul Thomas, a.k.a.
• 44:15
  Speaker 7: GPT, got Dak's numbers wrong right here. Tyler Shuck leads
• 44:18
  Speaker 7: the NFL in passing yards. And he is the second
• 44:21
  Speaker 7: half king.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: He's killing it. Crush it.
• 44:24
  Speaker 7: All right, let's go to the top five because we
• 44:25
  Speaker 7: are running out of time.
• 44:26
  Speaker 6: We're going to go five here. Then we're going to
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: come back and we'll give you the other five. You
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: messed that up.
• 44:31
  Speaker 8: I did?
• 44:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you could have radio teased that.
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  Speaker 10: I think all these stats are wrong.
• 44:37
  Speaker 6: By the way.
• 44:37
  Speaker 8: No, well, I told George Paul Thomas to double check.
• 44:41
  Speaker 10: George Paul Thomas did not double check.
• 44:43
  Speaker 6: Number five.
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: Number five.
• 44:44
  Speaker 10: But it's okay.
• 44:45
  Speaker 6: Number five.
• 44:45
  Speaker 8: And he is number five. Jalen Hurts.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: All right. I mean, I did it last week, too.
• 44:50
  Speaker 7: I'm just probably going to troll everybody and put him
• 44:52
  Speaker 7: at five every week just because Chris Canty always says
• 44:56
  Speaker 7: he's not five.
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: Well, he is. But he is.
• 44:58
  Speaker 8: I mean, he's a competitor. He's a winner.
• 44:59
  Speaker 6: I think I know who number four is.
• 45:01
  Speaker 8: Go to number four.
• 45:03
  Speaker 6: Matthew Stafford.
• 45:04
  Speaker 8: Is that right?
• 45:05
  Speaker 6: God.
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: Well, I knew he wasn't going to be top three.
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: If he was, this list was already going to be
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: thrown out.
• 45:11
  Speaker 7: Matthew Stafford is the absolute man. He's got 427 all-time
• 45:16
  Speaker 7: passing touchdowns. I think that puts him number six in
• 45:19
  Speaker 7: the NFL history books in touchdown passes.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: He's a man.
• 45:24
  Speaker 7: Devontae Adams went off, so love it. If he plays well,
• 45:27
  Speaker 7: he's going to be on my list because I'm a fan.
• 45:29
  Speaker 10: Number three. All of these are.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Shut up, Alondra.
• 45:33
  Speaker 8: Number three, Brock Purdy. Brock Purdy, you are the man, dude.
• 45:39
  Speaker 7: I was familiar with your game, but I wasn't familiar
• 45:41
  Speaker 7: with all that game that you got outside the pocket.
• 45:44
  Speaker 7: The guy's playing awesome. And watch out. If they can
• 45:47
  Speaker 7: stay healthy, him, Kyle Shanahan, ooh, they might make a
• 45:49
  Speaker 7: little run.
• 45:50
  Speaker 8: Go to number two. Patrick Mahomes, you're awesome. He's the man.
• 45:55
  Speaker 8: And number one, Josh Allen.
• 45:58
  Speaker 6: Surprise, surprise, Lance Harper.
• 46:00
  Speaker 7: Josh Allen, 20th all-time in NFL rushing touchdowns with 81.
• 46:06
  Speaker 8: All right. 20th on the list.
• 46:07
  Speaker 6: Here's what we're going to do.
• 46:08
  Speaker 7: At what point is that going to piss people off
• 46:10
  Speaker 7: when he eclipses the best running backs of all time?
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: He already has. A lot of them. All right. Here's
• 46:16
  Speaker 6: what we're going to do. All right. Let's do a
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: little OTB mailbag since we missed it yesterday. People called
• 46:20
  Speaker 6: us out. We'll do that.
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: We'll also yell at you for your quarterback list. We
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: want to spend some time yelling at you about your
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: quarterback list. We'll start off our number three of OTB
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: doing that. Get those questions in. Hashtag OTB mailbag.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: Off the bench.
• 46:35
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• 46:36
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• 46:36
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• 46:40
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• 46:42
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• 46:44
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• 46:45
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• 46:47
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• 46:49
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• 46:50
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• 46:51
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• 46:54
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• 46:56
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• 46:57
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• 46:58
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• 47:06
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