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Human Design Expert Explains the 2026 Rare Planetary Pattern · Cozy with the Cosmos with Astrologer Sarah Paasch

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All right, so welcome, Dylan, our third Co host with the most.
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Dylan is an amazing human design expert.
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He is the HD maven. Dylan's actually the person who
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introduced me to human design first ever almost 10 years ago.
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Yeah, so crazy lifetimes ago. And Dylan and I have
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collaborated a lot in the past. It's been a little while.
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And so I'm so excited to have you here today, Dylan, and to
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hear everything that you've got going on.
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He's going to share some really special announcements at the end
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of this episode. You're going to make sure that
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you stick around. Dylan's going to be bringing
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into this conversation the human design and the AI Ching.
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We're really going to focus on weaving this basket, hitting
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this cosmic tuning fork with Pluto, Uranus, Neptune, and
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Jupiter. And just like, real quick, I
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also want to make sure everyone just knows.
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Tell us a little bit about your background with human design and
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what you're up to now with your practice.
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I started my human design journey 15 years ago.
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It was an inner calling. I didn't even know what was
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calling me until I found it and then it just changed my life.
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And it was like human design was already written in my DNA
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actually. And so it became something that
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was a personal obsession for seven years of deconditioning
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myself. Then it became A7 year journey
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of working with others and offering this work through
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teaching and working with clients.
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And I've also throughout that time done a lot of travel and
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just visiting sites that called to me like the first calling,
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which has unlocked a lot of different cool experiences and
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just direct teaching from the cosmos that I now I'm going to
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be sharing more of through the lens of Astro cartography
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because I feel like it's a really ripe time for people to
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be making moves as their updated sense of identity and Astro
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cartography packages that really well.
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Yeah, I just have to tell everybody.
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The Capricorn in me is obsessed with Dylan's work because it's
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built on the backbone of a major Capricorn stallion in your Can I
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tell the audience your chart a little bit?
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Is that OK? Yeah.
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In his 7th house, including a Capricorn moon.
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And so as you heard Dylan say, so much of his wisdom and
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expertise is because he has this divine channel, this Mercury and
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Aquarius and the sun in Pisces like he can channel and download
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till the cows go home. Dylan could just like hang out
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in that space forever. I know Dylan well enough to say
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that and be confident. However he also is unwilling to
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rest there in the sense of just OK, that's truth.
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He lives through every single curiosity, research,
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investigation that he receives or that he learns about or that
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lights him up. He lives through it and tested
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out and embodies what it is that he shares with his clients.
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And soon to be book like you didn't just start studying Astro
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cartography. You would tell the places on
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your map. That's Dylan.
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So his work is embodied. It is experiential.
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It's deep, deep, deep, deeply personal, but also that makes it
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so much more deeply impactful for the people that get to work
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with you or receive maybe your book and your writing.
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So thank you. Thank you for doing.
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Oh, thank you Sir. I feel really seen and that
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means a lot to me. Thank you so much.
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Yeah, OK. Are you ready?
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We're gonna jump in. It's gonna be so much fun.
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Should we do it? Let's go.
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Before we jump into the actual conversation of the episode, I
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want my audience to hear from you.
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Where do you feel like you're feeling?
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And this astrology Symphony? What's the vibe for you, Dylan?
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I'm really riding the wave that the tuning fork is producing and
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it's still establishing its signal, so it's not a clear arc
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yet. It's kind of like a wibble
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wibble and I am definitely feeling every spike and every
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drop of the frequency beginning to establish itself.
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And it's both exhilarating and at times overwhelming.
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And meanwhile, there's this tutelage from the new frequency
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of subtraction in order to expand.
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And we're going to go into a lot of how that works.
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But I'm definitely feeling that edge.
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And it's interesting. And I loved how on your first
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like teaser video, you were like, this is going to go on for
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10 years. Like this is not figure it out
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now time. This is like get ready for a 10
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year different kind of expansion.
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And because part of me is like as far as intention goes, I
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think it is really important to have a strong clear intention
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when the first part of any transit begins because I feel
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like that's when the most power is.
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And I'll learn more about that from you today.
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But I feel like almost like it's an 8020 thing, like 80% is in
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that first moment. And there was this pressure.
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But interestingly, even though in previous weeks I was like
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super on fire and super focused and super executive functioning
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and like building. The first few weeks of this
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astrology or you mean year? No, the first few weeks of I
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guess Cancer season this like past month, and then as we got
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closer to this actual event, all of that motivation has like
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dissolved. They just dropped off.
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And I'm like, wait, I want to be like putting my shoulder into
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this. But what's being asked after
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that new moon is like, no, that's kind of the old way of
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doing things. Like at its core.
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I think the pacing part of that is learning.
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Pacing is part of the initial defining moment of learning
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where you're failing the pacing or the pacing that you have kind
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of just like been conditioned or it's like when you get older and
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your body changes and the ways that you used to maintain your
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sense of vitality or like your weight or whatever, like they
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don't work anymore. You can't just like workout
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harder and eat less calories. You know, you have to adjust and
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adapt. And a part of that is pacing.
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And I feel like it's kind of what's happening now is
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everybody's kind of glitching because all the things that used
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to work no longer work on every level of life, right?
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Like how to make money, how to bring something to fruition, how
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to sustain something, how to scale something, how to pace
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something. Yeah, as I was like sitting here
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getting ready for this call, I had a download and I just voiced
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memo to friend and I was like, Oh my gosh, All the four degree
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energy about this transit is breakdown to breakthrough
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energy. And everything that we go
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towards that is still a external way, validating ourselves,
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comforting ourselves, enforcing our sense of identity.
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Any of these ways that we give our power away by emphasizing
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something external, we go for it and it falls apart.
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We go for it and it falls apart until we have this process of
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elimination that leaves us with our own sense of elevating our
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boundaries within self empowerment.
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Yeah. I mean, I think the question
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that's been coming up is at what cost?
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You know, you can do all of these different things, but at
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what cost? At what cost when it comes to
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your own body and your physical health is a certain cost to your
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relationships? You know, I just feel like
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people are getting inspired and pulled in a lot of different
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directions at once. It's so used in Gemini meets
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Neptune and Aries in a helpful way.
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Like those channels being open are deceptively good sometimes.
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But when you're running all over the place, there's a chance that
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not even one single place feels that benefit.
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And that gift of true presence, right?
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Which is part of the pacing is learning to slow down enough to
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actually be fully present to the thing that you're on or you're
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shouldering into, I guess. And I think the defining moment
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you said about the intention piece, I keep coming back to
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that again and again again with my clients.
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Because what I love is that so many people do have this clear
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defined intention idea vision that they feel called to be the
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caretaker of. Like to truly be the person
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who's responsible and dedicated and committed to protecting and
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to bringing into life, giving a chance.
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And that's accompanied by all that old paradigm shit that's
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like, and you have to do it all yourself and you have to do it
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now, and it has to be this fast on this timeline and it has to
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be in this certain way and format.
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And like you said, it keeps breaking down and they're
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feeling frustration or anger or bitterness, which are Ding, Ding
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words for human design. But I'm noticing that you're
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literally feeling those not self feelings in the human design
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strategy. And I'm like, guys, this is the
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defining moment on the vision, but you need to relax.
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You need to relax and trust the process and also don't get too
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attached the defining intention that is clear.
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This is what your focus is and your commitment right now.
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That's going to be the same thing in 10 years.
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The almost like reason for it happening, people are starting
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to predetermine for themselves because just like what our mind
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does, but what I'm seeing is I'm like, this is doing something to
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you. This is like phase one of
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something that first is putting you through a process that's
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going to evolve and change you and your identity and you're
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going to come out of this phase one.
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Maybe you still pour into this same project or ID or whatever.
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Maybe you don't because you're a different person.
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The idea might change, the commitment might change because
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you've been changed. You know what I mean?
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And the way that the intrinsic motivation is like felt and
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functioning. Right.
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The intrinsic motivation, I think that's part of the pacing
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lessons. Tell me when I say that because
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you're an MG and you brought up basic and I think you were like,
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I felt all this motivation and then it dropped off and part of
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me wanted to go back into like, I should shoulder into it from a
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place of logic, right? Which would not be an intrinsic
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motivation. That's clear.
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That's true. OK, So tell me how you're
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working through that, what that's like for you?
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So after the new moon, it's all been pointing back to very
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interestingly, innocence. Innocence which is Gate 25,
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which is where the Saturn and Neptune conjunction happened in
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February 20th. And it's the first gate in the
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wheel, in the human design wheel of itching astrology.
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And it's about uncontrived action.
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It's about literally intrinsic motivation on a kind of a soul
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level, on a body level, on like an unconscious level, on the
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level where our prefrontal cortex personality mind that's
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been programmed by thoughts and beliefs since we were born is
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not in the driver's seat. So the passenger seat.
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And so much of that fear, attention, anxiety, you know,
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control lives in that prefrontal cortex personality programmed
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consciousness. And it's honestly too small of a
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chamber in which for anything of that wants to come through for
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this new era to be born in. It's just too confining.
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And so me, meanwhile, our body, our soul, our nervous system,
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just the energy that we're made of is, I think, becoming more
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conscious and expanding in its capacity to connect,
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collaborate, innovate, La La, all these things create
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basically, and we kind of have to wait and see what our atoms
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are going to do next. It can still be within the
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vision that we have. And literally it's more about
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this state of Zen that becomes spontaneous creation,
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spontaneous inspiration, spontaneous action and kind of
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just going back to that as a rhythm.
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It's kind of like go back to stillness, boom, then something
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happens or go back to just like a state, something happens.
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And then it's by doing that we are literally building a new
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pattern that off on, off, on, off on switch that we're
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following intrinsically is the new pattern.
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And Neptune is in gate 17, which is the gate of the pattern.
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Oh my God, OK, if you haven't watched the tarot episode from
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from 2 weeks ago, you need to go watch it because everything
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Dylan is saying is so good and it's just amplifying in
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resonance with what we talked about with Neptune and Aries.
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The hang man as Neptune being in the first Deacon of Aries, which
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is the 2 of wands, which is a man standing there.
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He's got all this pure potential, but he doesn't have
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the go ahead. He doesn't have all the clarity,
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he doesn't have all the plans in place yet.
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I mean, the emperor coming into this is like you have to become
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the person who attunes to your own rhythm.
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You need to own the fact that you do have your own rhythm and
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it's not going to be anybody else's rhythm.
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And it's the only way to successfully and honestly most
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efficiently. The Capricorn of me is like,
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it's probably going to take less time.
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It's probably going to take less energy if I just do it the way
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that my body is naturally showing me in this moment how to
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do it. And like that hangman energy.
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Joelle was saying she's like, you know, with Jupiter entering
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Leo and the sun entering Leo like this Neptune in Aries has
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some support it hasn't had yet. So this collaborative support is
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coming in. It's like it's time to get off
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the tree. You've been hanging upside down
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for a while by yourself. Get off the tree, come down, and
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if you're in a moment where you're not feeling clear or
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inspired, like something is blocking you, go back to the
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tree. It's still there, you know, and
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that's like what you're saying to take these moments of rest
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and kind of like retuning our instrument, which comes back to
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that whole 4° cosmic tuning fork.
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And when you were talking about doing it the old way, the
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channels being too small or constrictive, that's what I was
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thinking of as these outer planets, the sound, the
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frequency, the potential, the creative potential, that energy
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is flowing way too fast and from way too many different entry
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points to flow through such a small channel or like a small
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way of doing something. Yeah, like a low bandwidth
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channel. Right.
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Yeah. And you just keep turning up the
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volume thinking that that's going to make it better.
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This is random, but I feel like it has to be connected.
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I learned this thing. I don't know if you know this,
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but when you go into Spotify, you can change your settings.
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And there's all these ways to change your settings so that
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Spotify stops basically getting in the way of trying to control
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different print pieces of the audio by making songs come
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through your headphones in the same kind of consistent way.
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So the way that artists create music is specifically designed
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to get louder and softer at different points as part of the
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sound. But if you don't reset your
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settings and Spotify, you lose that layer of the music of the
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art. And so it's making me think of
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that where it's like you actually have to go back to the
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settings in your own instrument, in your own operating system of
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how you're approaching things and go back into the innocent
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state. And it's not like you have to
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get a whole factory reset. It's just going in and noticing
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where there's preset settings that are actually becoming the
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barriers to the highest quality production to come through from
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you as a creative vessel. Does that make sense?
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Yeah. And I think what Pisces, Neptune
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and Saturn gave us was excavating all of this circuitry
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within us that now is getting utilized in new and expanded
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ways that we never could see from the previous.
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Like we were just digging away at our karma for 14 years just
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with like the tunnel of us. Yeah.
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And we didn't realize that we were digging a whole new
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infrastructure for a new energy to flow through.
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And that's what's beginning to happen.
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But we're still waking up in the morning, like, got to get to the
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mind, got to keep digging. And it's like, no, it's
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actually, I don't know, an underground city.
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It's something amazing. Can you explain to the audience,
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in case they don't know, just a basic framework for our
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conversation about the human design?
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And when you say a gate and maybe just telling them the
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highest expression of how we want to work with it.
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And then also the shadow side as like a recognition of when we're
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not doing. Do you think I'd be helpful?
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Yeah, I think so. So in human design, this is an
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astrology audience. So think of your 12 sign Zodiac
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wheel, and then think of that wheel being segmented into 64
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gates. And these gates are energy
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gates. They're like codons.
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They're like light bulbs in our DNA that light up at different
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times when the planets move through there.
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And they each contain a kind of elemental combination, and that
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comes from the E chain. And these different elemental
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combinations make up these 64 energies and they're literally
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like the divination of the cosmic cycles.
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And so each one tells a story and each one also has a place in
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our body graph. So if you're doing your human
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design, you're looking at your body graph, you see the 64 gates
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in their irrespective centers, energy centers, AKA chakras.
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And depending on which ones you have activated, different themes
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are alive in your life. And also when we have transits
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that move through these gates in the collective wheel, we have
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different themes and different energies moving through us all.
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So I feel like I took a really roundabout way to explain that.
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Let me try to see if I can articulate my receiving and
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synopsis of that are my translation.
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So basically, if we think about this 4° cosmic tuning fork with
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the outer planets and Jupiter and Leo that I mentioned in my
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first video this series, you're basically saying from a human
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design perspective, there's like these sets of codons that are
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being activated collectively and in different areas within us
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specifically, but the codon is kind of the same infrastructure.
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So like for me, let's talk about the innocence, the Gate 25.
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For me, that's happening in astrology language, in Aries, in
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my 7th house, in human design, that's happening somewhere else
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in that body graph. Yeah, we all have these
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potentials of all 64 gates within our energy.
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And when a planet lights it up, it lights it up in us, it lights
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it up in the collective. And obviously the different
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planets kind of correspond to different layers of our
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consciousness as well. So there's this constant
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Symphony being played just like in astrology, but we look at it
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more through the frame of the body.
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And so we've been talking about gate 25.
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This is in the G center. That's the identity center.
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It's like your inner compass, basically your spiritual inner
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compass. So 25 is like really interesting
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because it's also the only gate that pertains to inanimate
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objects. So if we're looking at different
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species and how each one gets more complex from like inanimate
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object to mineral to plant to bug to fish to human level, all
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inanimate objects have a gate 25.
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So it's also the gate of pure potential because that's the
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same energy that when lightning strikes the sand, that 25 gets
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shocked from sand phase to glass phase.
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It's really like a alchemical energy and it's very versatile
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because it touches on so many things.
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I even wrote a sub stack like how AI is technically gate 25.
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That's what its body graph is. So it's unlimited potential
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depending on how it gets with by shock and initiation, which is
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gate 51. So anyway, now Neptune is in
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gate 17. So speaking about Physiology and
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where where each planet is living, that's in the Ajna a
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gate 17 is the gate of the right eye.
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So it's about pattern recognition.
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It's about tracing patterns of origin and innovating new
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patterns. Obviously in Aries, pioneering
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new patterns, but it's about weaving a new tapestry from the
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visual cortex. So there's a big visual
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component to what Neptune is having us all tap into or dream
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up. And in the traditional aging,
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this is called the gate of following.
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So the question is, what are you following and has it earned the
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authority to lead your mind? And would this tie back into the
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intrinsic motivation factor totally?
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And also though, how does that interface then with these other
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alignments happening? I don't know if there's one
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specifically that's most fluid to move to next or just makes
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most sense. I guess what I'm saying between
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Uranus and Gemini, Pluto and Aquarius and the Jupiter and
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Leo, I feel like I want to know that piece of the puzzle because
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this one feels kind of like I'm imagining totally centralized
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within the self, this pure potential and this tuning fork
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within ourselves that we're just trying to uncover and get out of
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the way of opening ourselves up to for the impact, the right
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impacts to happen or that intrinsic motivation to get
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activated by impact or initiation.
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So tell me about the influence then on the other pieces to
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that. So in the Uranus sextile
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Neptune, Uranus is now in Gate 20, line 5 S Gate 20 is the Gate
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of Contemplation, which is a really hard thing to pin down
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because what actually is contemplation?
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Gate 20 is so special because it's directly related to how
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much awareness we have have in any given moment.
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It is basically the Gate of Presence.
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What function of our being allows us to be present?
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We don't really know, But it's Gate 20, that's what it is.
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A regulated nervous system. Yeah, Thank you.
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And so it's, it's not a mystery anymore.
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So yeah. And Gate 20 is the throat gate.
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So expression and manifestation or just the energy is moving and
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it connects into this whole integration circuitry.
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And the integration circuitry is really the circuitry that set us
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up to become conscious beings, walking on 2 feet, expressing
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ourselves, building civilization.
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It's really where we diverged and evolved from just animal
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life and a very strong connection to our environment,
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but not as much of A focus on our own vision and beingness.
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So this is really an evolutionary leap because you're
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honest is the evolver, the enlightener in a gate of pretty
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much the gate that allowed us to stand up on our hind legs and
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start talking. And so when this is a Neptune
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sex style. We have contemplation, presence,
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action, meeting with this, following this new vision, this
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new pattern that Neptune is dissolving the boundaries of our
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old limits of what we could see as far as the pattern.
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So the pattern just got way bigger.
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And then contemplation says, OK, how much of this can we actually
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draw down and fit into our body and presence in each moment in
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order for it to become a real thing?
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Like life is this kind of puzzle, every little moment of
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presence is a potential fit to a certain piece of the Neptune,
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pieces that are opening up to availability tests.
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Yeah, it's like I go hanging upside down on my tree, I get a
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piece of the vision, I get down, I come and kind of like live it
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into being. Through Uranus and Gemini,
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right? So, but if you're not present,
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you're going to totally miss it. If you're hyper focused on
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looking to fit that piece and a predetermined part of the puzzle
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of making something happen, it's going to be like right in front
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of you and you just miss it. Yeah, it's Neptune.
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You can't get it down here. You have to go go up to the
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tree, you know, metaphorically. And so that's like stepping out
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of the sympathetic nervous system and being an antenna and
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just receiving these higher visions from a parasympathetic
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regulated space because the central nervous system in the
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brain, the eyes, like these are things their era is done
21:50
according to human design. We're moving into 2027.
21:53
It's not just a new 400 year cycle.
21:55
It's the kickoff of a solar plexus dominant era of our
21:59
evolution. We've completed the game of the
22:01
mind. This physical realm that we've
22:03
created is all the mind and the visual cortex.
22:06
Now we're moving to this feeling consciousness that has way more
22:10
bandwidth, so much more depth, just like emotion does.
22:13
Emotion takes over your whole body, you know, your visual.
22:16
Yeah, it's dominant and it's very survival based.
22:19
But emotions connect us to spirit.
22:21
Emotions connect us to the part of us that doesn't fit fully in
22:24
our body, but still communicates with us and guides us and gives
22:28
us at least feedback. And so this is really the you're
22:31
on a sextile Neptune. How much of the vision can you
22:34
actually fit in your body? And what needs to happen to make
22:38
that space if not? And can you surrender and make
22:42
friends with the forces that are looking to displace with
22:46
blocking it from fitting in your life and your body?
22:48
Yeah, I mean, I'm like, should I tell this personal story about
22:53
the crazy shit I've been having happen to my body with this or
22:56
not? You have a lot of integration
22:58
circuitry. You have gate 20, you have gate
23:00
57, you have gate 10. So yeah, you're you're 1 to
23:03
speak because you can really feel it with your defined
23:05
spleen. Yeah, I can really feel it.
23:08
It's been fucking insane in my body.
23:10
The solar plexus thing. There was a phase before this
23:13
last Cancer new moon where for about a week, I was
23:17
unconsciously, just instinctually, I would have to
23:20
constantly push my exhale so far out to like tense my core at the
23:26
base of my exhale, not flexing my abs, like literally
23:30
contracting my core to my spine. And every time I did it, it was
23:35
like I could finally breathe a little bit more in my body.
23:38
Like my body could breathe, but it was this intense contraction
23:42
that it was calling for. And it was like again and again
23:44
and again. And it was so clearly in the
23:46
solar reflexes and it didn't feel bad, but I was also like,
23:48
what the fuck am I doing? Like if somebody was watching me
23:50
just like walking around and I just like, I don't know, I can't
23:53
not do what my body's doing it. And yeah.
23:56
And then the last part I was going to say, which is really
23:58
funny, is my routine traditionally for keeping myself
24:03
in that nervous system regulation and available
24:06
capacity to process these energies and to stay and flow is
24:09
like going to a yoga Class A few times a week, right?
24:11
And it was my favorite yoga class last night.
24:14
It's like half restorative. It's not even a hard workout.
24:16
But I also had this instinct like I should be getting a
24:19
massage right now, but I was like no, I need to workout and I
24:21
was in the old circuitry like in the old rhythm using my mind.
24:25
So I go to the class, I park 2 streets further away like in the
24:30
wrong St. because I'm not paying attention.
24:32
And then I proceed to Sprint down the street to try to make
24:36
this hypo class at 7:00. I get there at 7:03.
24:38
So sweating and the doors locked and I was hunched over because
24:42
at that point now my back hurts and my back never hurts.
24:45
That's been a really new sensation.
24:46
But again, in just feels energetic to all these different
24:48
things happening and I'm like hunched over, pick up my phone
24:51
and call the massage place. And surely enough, they could
24:54
get me in the next 10 minutes. And I went and had the best
24:56
massage of my life. And as soon as I laid on that
24:59
table, I was like, Oh my God, my body was like, thank you,
25:02
asshole. And I knew because that's also
25:03
part of this astrology. And I keep telling people the
25:06
things that are meant to happen are flowing.
25:08
It's happening. It's not hard.
25:10
You know, like even this recording, it's like we were
25:12
talking all the time or thinking about this or planning it.
25:15
And that's kind of how all these episodes in the series, I
25:17
literally got the idea I had reached out to the person.
25:20
They were like, yes. And then we recorded within a
25:22
week, you know? And so I knew when that door was
25:24
locked, I was like, well, I guess I'm supposed to go to the
25:27
massage. It was like the best massage
25:28
I've ever had in my life. And I'm like, yeah, this is this
25:31
astrology on a very mundane, silly Sarah level.
25:34
It's integration and this is how it looks everybody.
25:38
'S well, and I think the piece with Uranus and Gemini, you were
25:41
talking about that gate 20 and I want to see if you can help me
25:45
bring these things together because in the tarot we talked
25:47
about this Deccan of Gemini being the 8 of swords and how
25:51
it's this image of this woman who's like appears to be bound,
25:53
but no ones around and it's actually loose.
25:55
She could just kind of like shimmy out of that and then
25:57
blindfold herself. And you're honest being this
26:00
liberating energy of the mind right now where you have access
26:04
to completely re think everything, the stories, the
26:08
narratives you've carried, the limiting beliefs, the ideas of
26:12
what's possible, just those constructs of mind.
26:15
And maybe it's something you're even aware of and you've gone to
26:17
therapy for your whole life. Like if you're open to the
26:20
possibility right now, you could just drop it and like, just let
26:23
it go. Let it be like completely just
26:25
shift into a new mindset. So how does that play into Gate
26:28
20 and the things you're talking about?
26:30
Gate 20, it's really the release valve of our kundalini energy.
26:35
You could say one of them, but I would say it's like the primary
26:38
1. And so this is about where the
26:41
intelligence of the body literally overtakes sometimes.
26:45
And you know, I don't know if people have ever done like Tai
26:48
chi or Chi gong. And at some point you start to
26:51
feel the energy moving you. You're not moving your body
26:54
anymore. It's like once the space has
26:56
been made, it's just kind of flowing through you.
26:58
And the ways that the energy flows are kind of pre sequenced.
27:02
It's pre designed. It's not you having to think of
27:04
everything. It's just happening because
27:06
these are pre-existing existing energy forms, you know?
27:09
And so it's like we're letting the intrinsic forms displace the
27:15
implanted ones and literally on a circuitry, bandwidth, nervous
27:19
system, embodied level. That's what I thought of when
27:22
you asked that. Yeah.
27:23
So it's kind of cool that the layer that I think I'm receiving
27:27
from this conversation from human design on to this
27:30
astrology and the Tarot with Uranus and Gemini, not just
27:34
looking at it from that vantage point of perception and mental
27:39
change, but it's actually you're honest in Gemini.
27:42
The disruption, the shocking way through and into playing with
27:47
that is by listening to your body more, by getting out of
27:50
your own way, not even mentally, but physically from being in
27:54
that state of like a child being pulled to go climb the tree
27:57
because it's like, oh, that looks like so much fun.
27:59
Not thinking about how will I get down, you know, not thinking
28:02
ahead like that. That's what I'm kind of getting
28:04
is the body is actually the way through that this disruption of
28:07
the ADA swords energy in our head.
28:09
Because in human design, the throat center has 11 gates and
28:15
Gemini has like 6 of those gates.
28:17
So over the Gemini Uranus transit, where is all the
28:21
updates going to be happening? The throat center.
28:23
And the thing about the throat center is all the centers in the
28:26
body graft point to the throat center.
28:27
All the solar plexus, the sacral, the G, the root, even
28:31
the heart, the spleen, the ajna, all of it is focalized on
28:35
getting something out, expressing something,
28:37
manifesting something, being something or being in a certain
28:41
frequency. And that's where it's all going
28:43
down. So it's all at the threshold of
28:45
being. It's like everything else is
28:47
getting rebuilt and kind of knocked down, demolished.
28:50
But at the central moment of expression, manifestation being,
28:54
that's kind of where the safety is and that's where the next one
28:56
is laid down. I feel like this is exactly why
29:00
I feel human design as a system and a language is going to be so
29:05
supportive for everybody who's open unavailable to receive it
29:09
and use it. Because getting into the
29:12
modality of your specific design and its strategy and it's not
29:16
self theme is a very simple functional point of entrance of
29:21
starting to practice. If you're not somebody who has
29:24
any idea where to start of how would I even know if I'm in my
29:28
own way or if I'm in an intrinsic motivation or not
29:30
intrinsic human design, That's one of my favorite things.
29:32
Even if you just know the basic fundamentals, it's so applicable
29:35
to everything we're talking about and just life, right?
29:38
Like a generator in frustration. What an easy way to start
29:42
entering into this deeper level of intrinsic motivation,
29:45
practice and awareness. Yeah, it really helps us see the
29:50
source of our block or our pattern or our frustration
29:55
pretty efficiently. And a lot of times the mind
29:58
wants to make it so many possible things that is rubbing
30:02
us the wrong way in life. But it's usually just one thing.
30:05
It's 1 mechanic that you can go back to.
30:08
And kind of kind of like that idea of going back to the tree.
30:11
It's like, OK, I'm a generator. I've been initiating, I've been
30:14
pushing, I've been not listening to my gut as far as where the
30:17
energy wants to flow next. Let me just go back to waiting
30:20
to respond and that next thing that you could say
30:24
synchronistically, divinely shows up.
30:26
Yeah, sometimes you have to wait longer than you thought you
30:28
might have to wait, but it's really not that long anymore
30:30
because things are moving so fast.
30:32
It gives you a new starting point to re enter the flow of
30:34
life from an aligned place, from that intrinsic heart motivation
30:38
place and everything goes better.
30:39
It's like how to reset your pattern.
30:41
Well, and because not everybody's strategy is to wait
30:45
to respond. I have clients who are
30:46
manifesters and like I'm a manifester and they're
30:49
conditioned to wait to spawned like a generator and they're
30:54
waiting is actually their disruption to the potential flow
30:57
of these outer planets, you know?
30:59
So that's why I'm also saying I think human design is cool
31:01
because you just put in your birth information the same way
31:04
you do for casting an astrology chart, and you're going to get a
31:06
very personal instruction manual for your design and your
31:11
intrinsic motivation and generally applicable, like I
31:13
said, ways of recognizing when you're not doing it.
31:16
I don't know, maybe it's like the first time that we all
31:18
actually live by our design and that's how we build this, this
31:21
new world together. That would be really cool.
31:24
I'm all for that. Well, OK, so let's move into the
31:27
next outer planet. I'm going to let you lead us.
31:30
What's the most natural next step of weaving this basket?
31:33
So Uranus trying Pluto so that is Uranus in 20 line 5
31:39
contemplation meets decrease that's where Pluto and Aquarius
31:43
are currently is that's gate 41. Gate 41 is very interesting
31:47
because it's the start codon in our genetic code.
31:51
So out of all the 64 gates, there's only one start codon,
31:54
and that's where we see in Human Design lens, the beginning of
31:58
the new yearly cycle. This is a gay in early Aquarius.
32:02
So Human Design New Year is right around that cusp of mid to
32:06
late January. So what does 41 do?
32:09
It's also the gate that causes hunger, like in our Physiology.
32:12
So it's the gate that lets us know that something's empty and
32:15
there is a desire to fill it with something else.
32:18
So Pluto is killing off the things that used to fill us up,
32:22
you know, spiritually, physiologically.
32:25
It's the root gate that kicks off what we call the human
32:28
experiential way. And this is a whole series of
32:32
gates that go from root to solar plexus to solar plexus to throat
32:35
center that take us through emotional fantasy and then doing
32:40
the things that we need to do to make that fantasy real, living
32:43
the fantasy and its expectations versus reality.
32:46
Did we get the dream that we were dreaming?
32:48
Did we get a nightmare? Did we get something in between?
32:51
Either way, we learn and evolve, and that's the human
32:53
experiential way. That's what we do now.
32:55
Pluto being here in the base of this is kind of kicking off new
32:59
fantasies. It's literally making us hungry
33:02
for new things, new experiences, new methods of satisfaction.
33:07
And like, collectively, not just personally, because it's Pluto
33:10
and Aquarius, right? Like this is a collective hum
33:14
and pressure and hunger. Yeah, and the 41 in the human
33:18
experiential way is a collectively attuned anyway.
33:22
So it's like triple collective. And so it inherently brings
33:26
involvement with other people. Interestingly, it's like we're
33:29
going on this adventure together.
33:31
And it is also connected directly to Gate 30, which is
33:35
the Gate of the Fates. And this is a really interesting
33:38
gate as well, because it's where in the etching version of Gate
33:42
30, it says that we have this emotional fire within us that
33:46
keeps us going. And the fuel that fuels that
33:50
fire has to be a sustainable resource.
33:52
And so if we're using our own energy and blood and sweat and
33:57
tears as the resource, the powers, our fantasies and our
34:00
dreams, we're going to get burnt up.
34:02
We have to choose a fuel that is truly sustainable, you know, in
34:06
the energetic sense. And that's a very interesting
34:09
conversation because, like, what does that even mean?
34:11
And there's a lot of burnout with the wrong fantasies, like,
34:16
oh, I thought the dream would be marrying my high school
34:19
sweetheart, you know, la, la, la burnout.
34:21
And then we're having to rise from the ashes and the age of
34:24
sleeping Phoenix and not concoct a new fantasy based on what the
34:28
collective says is what we should want, but one that's
34:31
based on our true alignment, empowerment, like what our body
34:35
is actually designed for to do in this life.
34:38
OK, this is so good. I'm going back to the Tarot
34:40
again because it's so freshman. So the first decade of Aquarius
34:43
is the Five of Swords. Then we've got Pluto, which is
34:46
the judgement card, and Aquarius is a star.
34:49
And when you set all those up in a row with a star at the top and
34:52
then the judgement card and then Five of Swords at the bottom.
34:54
I'm seeing the procession of what you just said about the
34:59
hunger, the start of a new hunger, and then realizing that
35:03
we're trying to fuel that hunger from something that's not
35:07
sustainable. We're not actually using the
35:09
star, which is literally the water bearer pouring the source.
35:13
It's like right there, there's so much, but we're not tapped
35:15
into it. And then also there's a
35:17
reckoning of the judgement card where maybe you've gone so far
35:22
and you could call it burnout, you can call it breakdown or
35:24
just the crushing honesty of this isn't, this isn't what I
35:29
want, this isn't it. And the death, like allowing
35:32
that death and destruction or I got it, but on my way to getting
35:37
it, the Five of Swords is like, what harm did I pursue that I
35:42
have to come into humility around, right.
35:44
And then the other piece was this hunger piece and that five
35:47
of Swords energy and thinking about how we've been with Pluto
35:49
energy the longest since March 2023.
35:52
And Pluto is also going to be here the longest.
35:53
So collectively, individually, this 20 year transit and
35:58
evolution of this energy we're talking about, it just started a
36:02
few years ago and it's got a ways to go.
36:04
But in this moment of that transit, it has all of this
36:07
support from these other outer planets in a way it hadn't had
36:10
before. And so the hunger piece was
36:12
standing out to me because that's what I think we're
36:14
reaching right now that the other outer planets are really
36:16
honestly making us confront and make that judgment call with is
36:20
where have our personal hungers become the very thing that
36:24
prevents anybody from actually experiencing the deeper hunger
36:29
that we all share, which is to be happy, to be safe, to
36:32
genuinely feel like there is a way to provide security for
36:36
ourselves in our lives, to not be in fear all the time.
36:39
And this noise of cancelled culture is getting so loud, the
36:43
division, the unhealthy competitive ego winning at all
36:48
costs mentality that hunger can unconsciously activate in us.
36:52
It's very real. It's because a lot of people are
36:54
scared. Genuinely, there's so much to be
36:55
scared about, right? But we're realizing maybe at
36:57
this point, what would it be like if we stopped fighting each
37:00
other? You know, there's something
37:01
about that potentially also a wake up and reckoning way of,
37:05
oh, that's why we keep burning out or that's why we keep
37:09
reaching this and having to hit another start point.
37:11
Yeah, yeah, because the collective conditioned zeitgeist
37:16
says just pursue another fantasy, just keep going after
37:20
it and you'll finally make it. And yeah, it's competitive.
37:23
It's a fight, so you better be ready.
37:25
And then this new light is coming in and it's just kind of
37:29
melting that whole game, our very eyes.
37:32
And So what Pluto is gonna do in its masterful way is, yeah,
37:37
start to kill these desires at their core.
37:40
And that's the decrease of Gate 41 is that's not possible
37:44
anymore. Now what?
37:45
And it's like there's grief, but also a lot of this stuff was
37:49
probably never right for us, you know?
37:50
And so it is back to, OK, you wanted that whole like business
37:54
empire, but do you actually take full responsibility for your
37:58
vessel every day? And like you said, the star is
38:02
right there. The star is just just
38:05
waterfalling beauty and vitality and justice.
38:10
And yet it's since slightly a different dimension, it's
38:13
intermingling. But if unless you're building
38:15
that new bandwidth and that new capacity to be connected and
38:19
available to the next dimension, you can't really see it.
38:23
And that's probably the Neptune thing, too.
38:25
And I think that's also where collaboration comes into play,
38:29
which is going to directly tie into the Leo piece.
38:31
We might still tap into that dimension of the star card and
38:34
that energy and that resource, but it's still only going to be
38:38
like the sink that's just dripping drops of water if our
38:41
vessel just are singular doing it.
38:43
But when we come together and we confront the barriers to being
38:47
in collaboration or conversation even, and connection to people
38:51
who there is division and diversity, there's disagreement
38:54
even. But like, can we still talk?
38:56
Can we still communicate? Can we still have bridges
38:58
between US? And Aquarius being the pineal
39:01
gland and the pineal gland being this part of our brain system
39:04
that gives us some more expansive experience of
39:08
cognition and consciousness. And our ego being this little
39:11
like at the front that's always trying to defend its position,
39:15
you know, super insecure, easily triggered, will take aggressive,
39:20
massive, violent action to protect its sense of identity
39:24
when it's not necessary. That's kind of the two worlds.
39:28
There's pineal gland consciousness, true Aquarius,
39:31
and then there's I don't know what it is.
39:33
Yeah. And realize that at any moment
39:35
you can just hit start again. I think that's what I also want
39:38
to take away from this Pluto piece.
39:40
Is that the benefit, especially with these other planets at
39:43
these very specific degrees, opening these channels to that
39:47
Pluto transit? Right now is the perfect moment.
39:50
If it's been weighing on you and you know you've wanted to give
39:53
up on something or start something, do it.
39:55
Do it and don't be afraid to do it and bring a stop to it and
39:58
start again. If it's a week later, a month
40:00
later, you know, a year later, this is that moment to like do
40:04
that. Would you agree to that?
40:05
Yeah. And I did want to say the
40:07
eclipse we had in February was in Gate 30, so it was in a
40:11
direct channel with where Pluto is in Gate 41.
40:14
And it was on the exact day of the Fire Horse Lunar New Year.
40:18
It was here to allow us to expedite that moment of having
40:23
to humble ourselves to the dying desires so that we could get on
40:27
with this true Plutonian journey.
40:30
And that relates back to what you just said, so.
40:32
Yeah. And it's a great pivot point
40:34
into the Leo piece because we know that as of this podcast
40:38
coming out and everybody hearing it, we are officially in the
40:41
next eclipse portal. The window has opened and the
40:44
next eclipse is going to be that solar eclipse in Leo on August
40:47
12th. And I'm not afraid of this.
40:49
I'm so stoked for these eclipses.
40:51
And I also am not afraid that it's a S node eclipse.
40:53
I actually think that's a gift for everything else going on in
40:57
my opinion, which I'll speak to at a different time, unless you
41:00
want to add to that. But I think it's great that you
41:02
brought that up and also how we can start to think about
41:05
entering into the next cycle or the next phase of that eclipse
41:09
cycle in this Leo eclipse by thinking, talking about right
41:12
now how Jupiter is in Leo and playing its part.
41:16
You know, the sun's also there, but the sun will move on fairly
41:19
quickly. But Jupiter's going to be here
41:20
for a full year. So especially in the beginning
41:22
place where it's really at these early degrees with those outer
41:24
planets, let's bring in Jupiter in human design.
41:27
So Jupiter starts its journey in Leo and the gate of influence,
41:33
Gate 31, it's also a throat gate and it's also in direct
41:37
opposition to Gate 41 where Pluto is.
41:39
So here we are bringing in this geometry and this activation
41:43
around logical hierarchical leadership and how that's
41:47
expressed. It's literally connected to Gate
41:51
7, which in the traditional leaching is called the army.
41:54
And it's all about rank and it's all about preparedness for the
41:58
future through patterns. Again.
42:00
So this Gate 31 is like the person that gets elected to lead
42:04
is typically the person who has the strongest sense of here's
42:09
what we're going to be doing, here's the pattern that we're
42:11
going to follow, follow me. And it's starting in line 3.
42:16
So just for a little backup, every gate has 6 expressions of
42:20
its energy that pertain to different layers.
42:23
So line 1 is foundational. Line 2 is like the core talent.
42:27
Line 3 is experimentation, trial and error.
42:31
It's like the first quarter lunar phase is my astrology
42:34
version of translation. Yeah.
42:35
So the three wants to create a new combination.
42:38
It wants to mix things together that have formulated been
42:41
separate. It wants to try something novel
42:44
because all third lines are responsible for bringing novelty
42:47
into the mix. They find the new stuff through
42:50
their experimentation. So discovery.
42:52
And then also when we look at leadership with Jupiter, there's
42:56
some nod to the expansion of a new kind of leadership with
43:00
Pluto there in opposition being like, well, and you can tell us
43:04
about that part. Well, I think it's Jupiter
43:07
amplifying the sound of the individual leadership, like self
43:12
leadership that's coming online in.
43:15
Here's the thing, Leo is not meant to be narcissistic.
43:18
Leo is a lion and is leader in a sense of this more kind of
43:22
tribal leadership. There's genuine connection and
43:25
care and loyalty that tethers Leo to its sense of
43:29
responsibility for what it leads and what it protects.
43:33
And it's also the willingness to be the one that stands in front
43:37
or goes 1st and also holds that central gravitation force of
43:43
keeping everybody gravitating around what is actually best for
43:46
the entire tribe, for the whole, not about roaring to make that
43:50
lion feel big. You know, that's not its point.
43:54
That's not why it steps into that leadership place when it's
43:56
coming from a really healthy place.
43:58
It's almost like a humility and the willingness to be like, OK,
44:01
I'll be the one. Sacrifice.
44:03
Yeah, like heavy as the head that wears the crown.
44:05
So when I'm listening, do you say all this about leadership
44:08
and thinking about this astrology, these eclipses that
44:11
are going to happening across this Leo Aquarius access and
44:14
going back to the tarot, All of it's saying the same thing,
44:17
which is first self ownership, self sovereignty and the way of
44:23
orienting our compass, our decisions from a true central
44:28
orientation. So first that solar figure has
44:31
to be internally sourced and oriented around, and then
44:34
putting that out into actually connecting with other people to
44:37
have such a strong ego and sense of self and trust and self that
44:42
then there's this capacity to step into the arena and to work
44:46
with others collaboratively. Sometimes taking the stage,
44:50
taking the leadership role, being the one that goes first or
44:53
makes the decision for the group when it's feeling like we have
44:56
to. Somebody's got to step in and
44:58
just take over. But it's not coming from this
45:00
place of self-service, because that's when the reckoning of
45:03
Pluto, I think, is just going to come cracking down.
45:06
Yes, it's like self indulgent, but there's also the underbelly
45:08
of that, which is taking leadership because you're trying
45:11
to prove that you're good enough or that you're the one to
45:14
yourself or others. And that's equally is oh, just
45:18
wobbly and terrible. And that's the kind of
45:21
leadership that we have in the world right now and needs to
45:24
crash and burn. But I think what I hope people
45:27
start allowing Jupiter and Leo to give them is this confidence.
45:32
Jupiter and Leo is a little bit of a boost in confidence, which
45:34
can lead to arrogance and annoying presentations of people
45:38
being like, look, I'm on the stage, look what I can do.
45:40
And like, let me show you my dance.
45:41
It's like, can you not? You've been dancing all day.
45:43
I saw it. But that's not the thing I'm
45:45
talking. I'm talking about to the people
45:46
who traditionally sit in the audience seat, people who
45:49
traditionally wait to share their idea until feel safe
45:52
enough or they are in a group that agrees with them enough,
45:55
long enough that since they have the validation of that belonging
45:59
in place. Now, let me go ahead and step
46:01
into that leadership. Let me step into that
46:03
self-expression that's super authentic.
46:05
But right now it's like you have the opportunity to be a leader
46:10
and to have an impact and to connect with people that you've
46:12
maybe never connected with and to role model to lead.
46:16
And it might just be because you're willing to put yourself
46:18
out there and just show yourself authentically, which means
46:21
you're also willing to do that vulnerably and accept that it's
46:25
not everybody's show to watch. It's not everybody's idea to
46:29
receive something from. And because we're in these early
46:32
stages of the Pluto and Aquarius and this extreme cancel culture,
46:36
it's so heightened right now that everybody's like, I know
46:38
I'm going to get attacked in some way.
46:40
OK? Yeah, you are.
46:41
You're going to be OK. And that's where Jupiter and
46:43
Leo's like consolidate your ego into true sovereignty, into true
46:46
self ownership and self orientation so that when you get
46:50
in the arena and it's a little bit, I don't know, like crunchy
46:53
people get crunchy, you're OK, you can Jupiter laugh it off and
46:58
go somewhere else, play with somebody else.
46:59
Those hate comments are still expanding your engagement so.
47:03
Maybe those are our first leaders, the people that can
47:05
handle the cancel culture with grace.
47:07
Yeah, and I think there are a lot of great examples out there
47:11
right now, which is cool. And the thing about Leo is you
47:15
have to piss people off. Like it's just part of it.
47:18
It's literally the metric for success as a solar being because
47:24
we're not all solar beings. And sometimes it's too hot for
47:28
people and it's irritating. But that's literally showing you
47:30
that your intensity is adequate, I would say.
47:32
And Gate 31 has a voice. Every throat gate has a voice
47:36
and it says I lead because, and that mirrors everything you just
47:41
said. It's not getting out of that,
47:42
you know, viewer seat because of a really a personal thing.
47:47
It's actually you're getting out of that seat because of everyone
47:51
that it's going to influence and impact and that you care about
47:54
that your heart is moved for a greater reason to step forward
47:58
and take that risk, make that sacrifice.
48:00
It isn't about you. And so don't expect it to feel
48:03
like it is ever and that way. We're not waiting long because
48:07
those are the old small ego gratifications of the old era.
48:11
And also, I think with Leo and Jupiter, are you having fun?
48:15
Like what's your relationship to play and laughter, you know,
48:18
because I think there's this helpful, supportive element of
48:22
not taking ourselves too seriously and getting more into
48:25
the Leo childlike. I mean, I say this all the time.
48:28
The thing I love about Leo's is that they can walk in a room and
48:31
do something obnoxious, but if it's coming from that innocent
48:35
place because they're just doing them, it's so adorable.
48:38
And if anybody else did that who's not a Leo, I'd be like
48:41
cringe, you know? But we all have the Leo thing
48:44
within us that I think it's like, if you're coming from a
48:46
place where you're just like, this is fun.
48:48
I just want to do this. I just want to share this with
48:50
somebody. I just want to put this out
48:52
there because I'm so obsessed with this project I've been
48:54
working on. Then it's probably gonna be
48:56
received a lot better too. You know, like the cringe comes
48:58
when we can feel that behind that was this taste of
49:02
inauthenticity and performance. Yeah, or pressure or just like
49:06
projection. And I think it goes back to that
49:09
heart frequency, like when your heart's really there and behind
49:13
it and in it, it knocks the mind out of the way, it disarms it in
49:16
a beautiful way. And if that's not present and
49:18
for me it's a very palpable frequency, the difference that
49:21
you're talking about, then that's when it is like it's just
49:25
not heart based. Yeah, so Joelle is who was on my
49:28
tarot episode and we teased a first kind of like soft launch.
49:33
She's starting this coven collective.
49:34
It's called the Coven Collective and it's basically like an
49:37
online farmers market for all things metaphysical, spiritual
49:41
oriented around kind of self development, self growth, self
49:44
understanding and creativity and art.
49:47
And it's people like me, people like you can basically go on to
49:50
the coven Collective and kind of have our booth that we rent out
49:53
and anybody can freely go into this collective and check out
49:57
the farmers market of what's available.
49:59
And it's a way for all of us to kind of work together and
50:01
collaborate and, you know, just like build community.
50:04
I think the reason I'm bringing this up is because I'm tying in
50:07
everything that you've been talking about and the Neptune
50:10
and Aries piece training the Jupiter in Leo.
50:13
And this is, I think, a good example of where there's a space
50:18
for everyone to be an individual and to have a leadership of
50:21
expressing and opening and inviting people to come in and
50:24
receive their impact. And it's also coming from this
50:28
really genuine place of for the good of everybody.
50:31
Like may the people that come to my booth and receive my
50:34
offerings and my services maybe for their highest and best and
50:37
not at the expense of anybody else's booth, right?
50:39
Like the collective Symphony of everyone being there for the
50:43
right reason and right intention and like playing together and
50:45
being open and working together. That's also what's feeding
50:49
directly back into the opposition to Pluto to support
50:51
or the restructuring that we were talking about in the very
50:53
beginning in a way that's actually sustainable and it's
50:56
still sovereign. There's still sovereignty
50:59
involved in all of this, but we can't.
51:01
If we're missing that collaborative piece, we're
51:03
fucked, essentially. That's what I'm saying.
51:05
And, you know, we're collaboration's sake because I
51:08
think there's a lot of opportunistic collaboration and
51:11
it does not carry the same vitality as, again, people who
51:15
are there because their hearts in it.
51:18
And I think that's something with the opposition
51:20
specifically. We have to be clear in ourselves
51:24
that those old motivations that are more externally imposed as
51:28
to why we would want to create something or collaborate with
51:31
somebody to get a result, to just make money, you know, to
51:34
just get the exposure or whatever self-serving goals for
51:38
collaboration are going to don't do that, please.
51:41
We're trying to do something different here.
51:43
Well, I was going to say, I think this astrology, I've been
51:46
saying this too on these episodes.
51:48
I think it's going to become unavoidably obvious for for
51:52
everybody, if you're the one doing that, it's going to be
51:54
hard to get away with that because for me, it's like a
51:57
taste in my mouth. I'm like, something's off here.
52:00
Or I just immediately feel exhausted, like being around
52:03
that person. You know what I mean?
52:04
But it's also cool because even you coming on today's podcast,
52:07
which by the way, thank you. I don't think I've said that
52:09
yet. Thank you so much for coming on.
52:10
We used to do so much collaborative work together.
52:12
And then I feel like we both kind of diverged into the
52:15
remaining pieces of our Pluto and Capricorn Dark Knights of
52:19
the soul. And we've like re emerged on the
52:21
other other side and it's cool to just jump back into
52:25
conversation and collaboration. And I genuinely feel like it is
52:29
a new start codon. I don't feel some baggage of how
52:32
it felt when we did it before or any expectation of what it was
52:35
going to feel like. And so that's also a piece I
52:37
think is we have this chance and I think this is all the planets
52:40
at the same time saying this truly just leaving the past
52:45
behind you like it's not going to protect you.
52:48
You can trust that the lessons that you learned from any
52:51
experience, they live inside of you.
52:53
Those will come with you like these new instincts that are
52:55
taking up different codons and cells in our body or whatever.
52:58
You know, that language was the wisdom and the memory is there
53:01
where it needs to be. But kind of like shutting
53:04
ourselves out by shutting doors or keeping barriers up because
53:08
of that was what was necessary before in some way is like
53:12
whatever, maybe like to maybe just trust that you can trust
53:14
yourself to put that down and just live moment to moment,
53:17
experience to experience, collaboration to collaboration.
53:20
Yeah, I think it's like turning inward and being, it's giving me
53:23
like this re parenting energy of this is not necessary anymore.
53:27
I can put this down now and then as a result drastically expand
53:32
in a way that feels so much more like breathing deeper into the
53:36
diaphragm than holding all this stuff.
53:38
And that's where the expansion just starts to happen.
53:41
And I think we're also going to see a lot of humans getting used
53:46
to living in a more consistent state of expansion, not as like
53:49
a addictive thing, but it's just like, oh, it's actually always
53:53
like this. Well, as Jupiter being the wheel
53:55
of fortune, I think it comes back to not just intrinsic
53:58
motivation, but also intrinsic peace or contentment or
54:03
satisfaction, whatever the word is that lives as your intrinsic
54:06
central point on that wheel that's always turning.
54:09
We live in a wheel of changing fortune.
54:12
That is reality. That is true.
54:14
Circumstances go up, circumstances go down, but we're
54:16
not so attached to the outer edge of that wheel and which
54:20
direction it's turning or what point it's at in its cycle.
54:23
We're more open and available. And I think the word presence is
54:27
returning to me kind of coming full circle from where we
54:29
started is presence is no longer threatening if it's not in the
54:33
presence of like the glory of the good and the easy and the
54:36
fun. I think we're all establishing
54:38
this new safety that's going to allow presence to be more
54:41
available at potentially the other end of all of this
54:44
together. You know what I mean?
54:45
Like you're going through a hard time and it's real.
54:48
Like that's real. But it's safe to be present in
54:50
that hard time because you have access to other people.
54:54
You have access to the safety of knowing other people are open
54:58
and compassionate and available and so honest about what they've
55:01
been through. All right, so Dylan has someone
55:04
liners for every single planet that we're going to do, and he's
55:07
agreed to play along with me for this 4° cosmic tuning fork idea
55:11
that we're holding. All this he's in.
55:13
He's going to give us his special sound of each planet
55:17
before he strikes the chord of his one liner.
55:20
Hit us off. So First off, with Neptune, the
55:23
core question is for Neptune and Gate 17, what are you following
55:28
and has it earned the authority to lead your mind?
55:40
Wow, that was really good. It was like a bowl in my heart.
55:45
Next up, gate 20, line 5. You're honest.
55:48
In Gemini, the future must be observable in the life of the
55:52
person claiming to represent it. It felt like a Zing inside the
56:08
bowl, the Neptune bowl. It's like Zing.
56:11
And I giggled because right after you finished the
56:13
statement, in a funny different tone, by the way, than how you
56:16
shared Neptune, there was somebody in the background of
56:18
your audio that just started laughing, like tackling out
56:21
loud. I heard that.
56:23
Oh my God. I mean I hope that picks it up.
56:24
Just kind of funny, OK? Love this.
56:26
Now for Jupiter, starting with Gate 31 influence, is the leader
56:31
truly influencing the collective or has the contention begun
56:35
controlling the leader? We.
56:44
That one was interesting because I guess after hearing it I
56:48
realized that part of me thought it was going to be some sort of
56:50
like landing sound, but it felt more like this fizzling out of
56:55
that nonsense. I was clearing it.
56:57
Yeah, I was clearing it. Yeah, OK, Well, then I heard it.
57:00
Yeah. Then I heard it right.
57:01
I heard it right. Jupiter just floated it away
57:04
like a hot air balloon. All the little petty he goes.
57:06
Wish and now Pluto Aquarius gate 41 line 3 decrease is not the
57:12
death of possibility, it is the removal of competing futures
57:17
until the essential one can receive power.
57:29
Yep, that's the root chakra. My feet are like 10 feet into
57:33
the depths of the Earth's mud right now.
57:36
Thank you. Thank you, Pluto.
57:38
Thank you, Dilly. That was fun.
57:39
That was fun. That was fun to play along.
57:41
Tell my audience what they need to know.
57:44
Where can they find you? What are you up to?
57:46
What do you have going on? How can they work with you?
57:48
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57:58
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58:00
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room saying the thing directly to the point that people aren't
58:46
saying. So I appreciate it.
58:47
Thank you, I love that feedback. Yeah.
58:50
Before we go, is there any final words of wisdom or any questions
58:56
that you want to leave the audience with about this
58:58
astrology, about this moment in time?
59:00
You know, one of these other 5D hints I was getting on my notes
59:03
here was to share this one with everyone and we'll just let it
59:07
stand for what it is. It is.
59:08
Do not expand beyond the point at which you can remain
59:12
truthful. That's your Riddle.
59:14
I really like that one. I'm like, should I just make
59:16
that the episode title? That's good.
59:18
Maybe I will. Yes, good job, team.
59:20
Thank you. For this opportunity.
59:22
I'll talk to you soon. Yay.
59:23
OK, bye Dale.