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Speaker 1: is having an open conversation about the reality of where
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Speaker 1: we stand today. And I'm just so proud of you
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Speaker 1: for having that courage to put that pin to paper
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Speaker 1: or your fingers on that computer keyboard.
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Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much. I you know, are we
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Speaker 2: on live right now or well?
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Speaker 3: I don't do live radio.
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Speaker 1: And the reason why, the reason why I don't do
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Speaker 1: that is because because it gives you an opportunity to
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Speaker 1: have a real conversation and we're not We're not going
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Speaker 1: to be like a seven second little news story. You're
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Speaker 1: going to see at five o'clock. And you know who
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Speaker 1: inspired me on that, Ronald Reagan, because he called us
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Speaker 1: a SoundBite generation.
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Speaker 2: And I have moved wonderful.
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Speaker 3: Oh I have.
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Speaker 1: Never lost that when Ronald Reagan said that, it's like
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Speaker 1: that's you know, stuck inside of me forever.
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Speaker 2: Well, I'm looking forward to this man, and I just
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Speaker 2: want to come right out and tell you to begin with,
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Speaker 2: I wrote the book as a sense of self purpose.
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 2: I wasn't thinking about making any kind of contribution to
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Speaker 2: racism or the problem of poverty or anything like that.
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Speaker 2: I just wanted to wake up from I was sleepwalking
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Speaker 2: in life. I'm eighty, mister Collins, I'm eighty two years old.
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Speaker 2: All right. I've been successful in my life. I've done
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Speaker 2: a lot of things and been successful at it. But
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Speaker 2: I had a friend of mine who actually I dedicated
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Speaker 2: the book to. His name is Frank Kashi.
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Speaker 3: Yes you did, Yes you did.
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Speaker 2: And he told me he said, he said, this is
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Speaker 2: a treasurer of sorts. I said, what do you mean, Frank?
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Speaker 2: He said this? He said, you you didn't had a
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Speaker 2: sense of purpose, but there's there's something else that is
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Speaker 2: of value to your book. And he said, you ought
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Speaker 2: to publish it. I wasn't going to publish it. I
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Speaker 2: was just gonna I put a manuscript out there. I
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Speaker 2: had hen review it and I then I had a
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Speaker 2: some editors look at it. And one of the editors,
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Speaker 2: I won't name him, he said, man, he said, you
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Speaker 2: gotta put this book in the in the publication. I said,
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Speaker 2: wait a minute, I said, so. I was looking at
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Speaker 2: the but it wasn't the cost of my time and everything.
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Speaker 2: And like I said, I'm eighty two years old, I'm
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Speaker 2: not getting any younger. So but after I other people
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Speaker 2: who read the book said the same thing to me,
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Speaker 2: and it sort of egged me on here and pushed
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Speaker 2: me to get somebody to maybe to promote the book
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Speaker 2: for me and contact some folks like yourself and you know,
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Speaker 2: talk about it well.
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Speaker 1: One of the things that inspires me so much about you,
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Speaker 1: RW is the fact that you are honest here and
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Speaker 1: the fact that you just shared with me that it
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Speaker 1: started off as kind of a personal kind of writing.
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Speaker 1: I get that because I've been a daily writer since
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Speaker 1: July of nineteen ninety four. There are things that I
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Speaker 1: put in that daily writing that somebody would say, oh
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Speaker 1: my god. And yet it's the kind of language that
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Speaker 1: we need to share, like you're sharing with us today.
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Speaker 1: Inside this book. You have courage to put Mulletmann out here.
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Speaker 1: But it came through the honesty of just being a
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Speaker 1: writer for yourself and everybody else said, Oh my god,
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Speaker 1: this is exactly what needs.
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Speaker 3: To be out here. Have you read the book, dude,
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Speaker 3: It's been in my hands.
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Speaker 1: Of course. This is not a book to be read.
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Speaker 1: This is a book to be studied. This is a
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Speaker 1: book where you need a yellow highlighter and you go
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Speaker 1: back to it because because you know, this is proof
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Speaker 1: that history does repeat itself. And it's like and our
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Speaker 1: w this this is what I don't have. I don't
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Speaker 1: have my mom and dad to run to, but I've
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Speaker 1: got you. I've got this book, if you know. And
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to be the only one that's going
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Speaker 1: to say that, Wow.
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Speaker 2: I just I just I'm overwhelmed by that. I like
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Speaker 2: I said that. The thing I guess I want to
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Speaker 2: point out that people is historically a guy named Arthur Schlessinger.
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Speaker 2: He was a historian for JFK back in the sixties.
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Speaker 2: Brilliant man wrote an article and I don't know it
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Speaker 2: probably appeared in New York Times or Washington Post or
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Speaker 2: something like that about how the country has become fractured. Okay,
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Speaker 2: use that word fractured. I never forgot that word. And
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Speaker 2: he divided the country up in the six or seven
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Speaker 2: little pieces, you know, and maybe it was more than that,
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Speaker 2: but I don't believe we're fractured anymore. I think what
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Speaker 2: I called it the Humpty dumpty all the king's horses.
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Speaker 2: Normally kings men ain't going to put humpty together again.
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Speaker 2: We are in we're in some serious problems right now,
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Speaker 2: I you know, and I just think that quite frankly.
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Speaker 2: You know, President Obama was in there for two times.
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Speaker 2: They never touched this subject. They never touched this issue.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if they wanted, were afraid to touch it,
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Speaker 2: or if they didn't think it was worthwhile. But you know,
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Speaker 2: when you got the South, the Southern Poverty Law Center
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Speaker 2: given money to the KKK and the skinheads, I mean
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Speaker 2: you got to say there's something going there's something wrong here.
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Speaker 2: And if if this book can get people talking about seriously,
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Speaker 2: which Mster Collins, I'm not sure as possible. And I'll
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Speaker 2: tell you why. Just turned on the TV and looked
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Speaker 2: at these Senate hearings, in these congressional hearings about people
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Speaker 2: who are supposed to be really, really intelligent, they got
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Speaker 2: you know, degrees from everywhere you go, and within ten
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Speaker 2: seconds of the conversation they're yelling and screaming in each
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Speaker 2: other and no one's getting anything out of that. I
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Speaker 2: just don't It doesn't make sense. But I think that
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Speaker 2: what I think it does tell you is the Sri
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Speaker 2: state of affairs that the country is currently in. And
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Speaker 2: I think the media. Now, you know, you've got freedom
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Speaker 2: of speech. I understand that, and that's that's crucial. But
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Speaker 2: I think the media, whether it knows it or not,
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Speaker 2: is promoting some kind of.
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Speaker 3: Yes, yes they are.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I can't say that unequivocally. You know, you
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Speaker 2: have to study that and do all kinds of stuff.
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Speaker 1: I can back that up r W. And then here's
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Speaker 1: how I'm going to back it up is that I
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Speaker 1: work for a grocery store. I wanted to be with
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Speaker 1: real people, and my wife goes go be with real people.
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Speaker 1: Then at a grocery store or a home depot, because
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Speaker 1: that's where real people are. Every day, I am with
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Speaker 1: men and women who are white, Black, Asian, Korean Russian, Ukrainian.
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Speaker 1: I don't hold any grudge against anybody, and you know,
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Speaker 1: the people that are in that store don't hold grudges either.
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Speaker 1: And then I step out into the real world, and
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Speaker 1: what does CNN say? What does Fox say? They say,
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Speaker 1: we've got a problem, And I'm going what store? What
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Speaker 1: did I just work for? Because I'm not seeing it
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Speaker 1: inside that store?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's masked. I mean there is a I mean,
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Speaker 2: I don't, mister Collins, this is sort of above my
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Speaker 2: pay grade. And aline, like I said, I'm eighty two
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Speaker 2: years old. I'm an old man. I you know, I
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Speaker 2: really don't. I'm pretty comfortable in life. Yeah, but when
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Speaker 2: I don't think anything exemplifies this more than what you said. Then,
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Speaker 2: when the astronauts landed, okay, and they were out there
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Speaker 2: for the interview, and what is the first media guy
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Speaker 2: asked Victor Glover, who was a black man, who was
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Speaker 2: the captain or commander of this book. He says, well,
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Speaker 2: how does it feel to be the first black man?
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Speaker 2: Now this is the stuff that really it cranks my track.
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Speaker 2: Where does it feel to be the first black man
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Speaker 2: that did this full around the moon and went to
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Speaker 2: father's and to mister Glover's credit and to his ability
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Speaker 2: to think on his feet. And he's thought about this lie,
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Speaker 2: he says, sir, and you could tell there was a
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Speaker 2: little bit of disdainment in he says. This isn't about
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Speaker 2: black history or white history. This is about humanity.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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Speaker 2: Now you can write that down. Somebody should really study
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Speaker 2: that and say, now this guy, this guy told this,
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Speaker 2: and it is a black guy told this guy. Man,
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Speaker 2: he says, knock this crap off with his race bating
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Speaker 2: and all this other stuff that you're pulling here. We
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Speaker 2: got issues, there's no doubt about it. We got we
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Speaker 2: got problems. But we don't need the media to keep on,
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Speaker 2: you know, stoking the flames of this. If you want
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Speaker 2: to do something constructive, you want to criticize constructively, fine,
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Speaker 2: no problem, go about it. I'm with you. I'll jump
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Speaker 2: on the bandwagon. But when you're out there with political
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Speaker 2: uh slants to everything to denigrate somebody, you know that
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Speaker 2: doesn't That's why we're in trouble. We are in serious trouble.
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Speaker 2: And like I said in the book, I said, there's
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Speaker 2: too many people that's going to make money off of this.
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Speaker 2: There's too much power to be made you don't you
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Speaker 2: don't make power trying to unify country. And what I
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Speaker 2: think is also is I think racism is being used
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Speaker 2: as just another lever to divide the country. I know
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Speaker 2: I'm going on here, and if you want to interject something,
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Speaker 2: you know, pop it off. But I'm not sure this
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Speaker 2: is just simply about money or power. I think really,
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Speaker 2: when you get down down to this, there are people
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Speaker 2: who deliberately trying to destroy the country.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I think it's kind of really weird.
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Speaker 1: And it could be just me. The King of England
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Speaker 1: is here in the United States on our two hundred
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Speaker 1: and fiftieth birthday, and I'm sitting here thinking, oh my god.
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Speaker 1: You know, I it's such a it's got such a
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Speaker 1: dang different place inside my heart because this is not
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Speaker 1: the same thirteen colonies of two hundred and fifty years ago.
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Speaker 1: It is so different. And here comes the King of England,
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Speaker 1: who we were trying to get away from, and he's
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Speaker 1: here to celebrate our two hundred and fiftieth birthday. He's like,
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Speaker 1: what the hell, what the hell here?
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Speaker 2: It's crazy.
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Speaker 3: It's just like, Okay, is this an oxymoron? What's going
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Speaker 3: on here?
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Speaker 2: Well, listen. I appreciate you talking about this. The other
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Speaker 2: thing about the book is I think that what it
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Speaker 2: has to offer, it has to offer a lot about
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Speaker 2: things like poverty too.
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Speaker 3: Yes, sir, yes, sir, yes, sir Amen Amen.
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Speaker 2: Chapter five in that thing is is you know one
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Speaker 2: of the chapters I like the best. It's about it,
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Speaker 2: young man. I went to school with sixth grade and
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Speaker 2: down there in Western At, Florida, and his name was
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Speaker 2: Robert E. Lee Bobo Griever, Oh my goodness, Bobo. No
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Speaker 2: one knew why they called him Bobo. But didn't have
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Speaker 2: any shoes. His parents lived in a two room shack
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Speaker 2: and then some working as a sharecroppers or something like
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Speaker 2: that on a farm taking care of pigs. Bobo had
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Speaker 2: never had shoes in his life. The clothes he had
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Speaker 2: on were rags. He was in my sixth grade class
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Speaker 2: at West Kenet, Florida, when I was there in the
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Speaker 2: sixth grade, and he smelt awful. He was a great kid,
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Speaker 2: but he had not We would give him fireballs and
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Speaker 2: marbles to play with us, you know, and he says,
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Speaker 2: so he could have, so he had. The kid had
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Speaker 2: absolutely nothing, but he he never let that wear him down.
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Speaker 2: He never. I mean he was. He knew it. He
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Speaker 2: knew he wasn't going to go anywhere and become anything.
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Speaker 2: But the problem was is that he got sick. Okay,
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Speaker 2: little story here. He was. He smelled so bad that
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Speaker 2: the teacher put him in the front of the room
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Speaker 2: so he could see the blackboy. The boy could barely
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Speaker 2: read and write, okay barely, and he was proud of it.
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Speaker 2: He was like a little peacock strutting around. He says,
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Speaker 2: look at me, I'm in the front of the glass.
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Speaker 2: And she said, well, he couldn't see the blackboy. I mean, yeah,
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Speaker 2: so she had to put him in the front. We
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Speaker 2: all knew that wasn't wasn't the case because we played
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Speaker 2: ball with him. I mean, you know, he says, he hell,
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Speaker 2: he could see as good as they think of us.
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Speaker 2: But that's what she did in it. It was he
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Speaker 2: was happy with it. And I'll tell you what, we
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Speaker 2: learned a lot. And this is the thing, mister Collins,
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Speaker 2: that I found out in life. Sometimes you learn you
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Speaker 2: learn so much about life in places and situations through
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Speaker 2: that you would never even imagine that you could do that.
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Speaker 3: Please do not.
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Speaker 1: Move our w's got a lot of things to share
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Speaker 1: with us, and we are just getting started the name
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Speaker 1: of his first book. At eighty two years in age Mulletman,
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Speaker 1: we are back with writer R. W.
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Speaker 3: Fields.
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Speaker 1: Stories like this, Our W that really open up my
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Speaker 1: heart to continue pushing forward with today's new generation. And
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Speaker 1: because you know, I always hear it all the time
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Speaker 1: from him, I don't have any money, I don't have this,
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Speaker 1: I don't have that. And I go, what do you
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Speaker 1: have that you're proud of? Well, you know I do
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Speaker 1: have some friends. Then why can't you be rich with friendship?
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Speaker 1: Why can't you expand that and build new friends? And
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Speaker 1: so I because I grew up poor and I don't
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Speaker 1: want to go back there again. And the thing about
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Speaker 1: it is, though, is that my dad used to say,
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Speaker 1: define what poor is. Define a house versus a home.
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Speaker 1: Define what having no shoes is all about? Because one
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Speaker 1: day you're going to somebody's gonna look at you saying
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Speaker 1: he had the weight of the shoes on his back,
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Speaker 1: but he kept moving forward. You know, there's so many
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Speaker 1: you're rich with experience, And at eighty two years old,
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Speaker 1: our W, you are rich with experience.
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Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much for that. I've had a
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Speaker 2: very interesting in the exciting life if you will, I never,
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Speaker 2: you know. I hear people tay to talk about worrying
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Speaker 2: about their kids killming in and out of schools, you know,
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Speaker 2: and taking them in and out. I was in and
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Speaker 2: out of six different schools in five years.
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Speaker 3: Good.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's you're just it nevered me.
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Speaker 2: In fact, I look back, and I say this in
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Speaker 2: the book, I look back at what a learning experience
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Speaker 2: that was for me, all the places we went, all
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Speaker 2: the things we did. Fortunately, you know, my dad loved
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Speaker 2: and part of the book is about fishing. And my
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Speaker 2: dad loved to fish. You love to catch it, and
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Speaker 2: if it swam in the ocean, he'd catch it neat Okay,
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Speaker 2: I'm telling you. And we didn't. We were like you.
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Speaker 2: We didn't have a whole hell lot of money. He
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Speaker 2: was in the navy. We had a steady job in that.
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Speaker 2: But we never had a lot of money. But we
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Speaker 2: did things and wherever we went it was. Fishing was
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Speaker 2: high on my list. It still is today because I'm
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Speaker 2: eighty two years old. And when I retired, I went
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Speaker 2: into fly fishing, and then I fished. Now I don't
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Speaker 2: fish as much as I like because my body is
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Speaker 2: wearing out on me. But I fish for a fly, Rode,
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Speaker 2: I fish for tarpain. I said, you know, I'm going
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Speaker 2: to give you guys a chance, and you're fishing for tarpin.
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Speaker 2: He doesn't need much of a much much of an
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Speaker 2: edge on you. He's pretty good. I got you where
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Speaker 2: he wants you. But listen, I I'm glad that people are.
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Speaker 2: I can't. I'm just overwhelmed that people calling me back
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Speaker 2: who've read the book and say we couldn't put the
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Speaker 2: thing down. I said, well, you know, when there's I
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Speaker 2: think there's other messages in the book, no other than
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Speaker 2: the racism and poverty. I had an experience there when
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Speaker 2: you read about it, when I shot my sister in
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Speaker 2: the head with my and I thought she deserved it. Well,
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Speaker 2: when my dad got done with me and my mom
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Speaker 2: got down, he never got the belt. They told me
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Speaker 2: that said, you know what you did is you destroyed
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Speaker 2: the love of your sister had for you. And then I,
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Speaker 2: you know, I felt like a third I mean that
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Speaker 2: was really bummed out. And I went in there and
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Speaker 2: I looked at her, seeing her and talked read a
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Speaker 2: book story to her. She went to sleep. And your
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Speaker 2: name is errow, right errow, I said, do I look
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Speaker 2: at she was asleep there, and I never seen her
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Speaker 2: like that, you know, And I got to thinking about it,
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Speaker 2: you know, I her love for me was was damaged
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Speaker 2: because of what I did to her. It wasn't me
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Speaker 2: shooting her with the court gun. It was you know,
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Speaker 2: what happened to her and I. So that was a
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Speaker 2: little thing I got in life from something I had done.
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Speaker 2: My sister loved me, she absolutely and I looked at
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Speaker 2: her as the it. You know, you read the book
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Speaker 2: and I looked at her as that was the it,
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Speaker 2: because she was a little terror. You know. It was
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Speaker 2: seven years difference in our ages, and that didn't help.
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Speaker 2: But man, I'm so glad. I'm just glad that people
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Speaker 2: like yourself read the book and you see the messages
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Speaker 2: that are in the book.
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Speaker 1: Well, there are a lot of messages in there. And
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I felt. And this goes all
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Speaker 1: the way back to my childhood when the preacher man
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Speaker 1: would say, one day before you go into heaven, you're
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Speaker 1: gonna sit down and watch a movie that God has
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Speaker 1: provided for you, and it's gonna be about you. And
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Speaker 1: I look about, I look at a book like this,
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Speaker 1: and I'm going you sat with God, you sat down
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Speaker 1: and you went over your life and then God said,
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Speaker 1: you know what, look at what you learned. And not
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Speaker 1: only did you learn it, you're now gonna teach it.
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Speaker 1: And that's what your life was all about, our W.
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Speaker 1: And we're going to move forward now with the next
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Speaker 1: book of your life.
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Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much, man, I mean you take
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Speaker 2: my I tell you what, I'm just overwhelmed with a
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Speaker 2: compliment here. And I never suspected they were everywhere and
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Speaker 2: thought that it would get to this level. But you
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Speaker 2: know what, if I touched one person with this book, yep,
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Speaker 2: and apparently I have. I feel I can't tell you
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Speaker 2: how that to me is worth everything. I can't. I
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Speaker 2: can't tell you that people call me I said, Dick,
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Speaker 2: we couldn't. We couldn't put the book down. And so
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Speaker 2: I just thank you and thank you for your encouragement.
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Speaker 2: And I feel he made my day. Brother.
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Speaker 1: Well, don't you think, though, that this book is really
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Speaker 1: a conversation between eighty two year old our W and
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Speaker 1: that nineteen fifties version of you, because I talk about
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Speaker 1: that a lot. That I have to go back one
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Speaker 1: day to talk to my fourteen year old self and say, dude,
19:26
Speaker 1: I know you had radio dreams at fourteen, but we're done.
19:29
Speaker 1: And I just feel like that this book is one
19:31
Speaker 1: of those where our w sat down with his writing
19:33
Speaker 1: instrument and said, hey, how are you back there in
19:36
Speaker 1: nineteen fifty Did we do good to get up here
19:39
Speaker 1: to twenty twenty six?
19:40
Speaker 3: How do we do along the way? And what did
19:42
Speaker 3: we learn?
19:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that is one of the things I hope
19:48
Speaker 2: that really comes out in the book. I told you
19:50
Speaker 2: I did this mostly out of a sense of selfishna selfishly.
19:55
Speaker 2: I don't care.
19:56
Speaker 3: I love it.
19:57
Speaker 1: I thank you for being selfish then, because you're awesome
20:00
Speaker 1: self less because you set the book free. That makes
20:03
Speaker 1: you self less.
20:05
Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much. But you know, and I'm
20:09
Speaker 2: thinking about it and write it and I wanted to learn.
20:16
Speaker 2: Let me see about oh, maybe fifteen sixteen years ago,
20:22
Speaker 2: I had an epiphany of sorts and I don't want
20:24
Speaker 2: to use that word is pretty powerful, but it is.
20:26
Speaker 2: I had an awakening. I had an awakening, I said, well,
20:30
Speaker 2: and it was from talking Frank Crashido.
20:32
Speaker 3: All the time.
20:32
Speaker 2: He said, Dick, he said, asked me this question. This
20:35
Speaker 2: is a question we should all ask ourselves who are you?
20:39
Speaker 3: Yep, who are you?
20:43
Speaker 2: And I'm sitting here, I said, oh, I know who
20:45
Speaker 2: the hell I am. You know, I'm I'm I'm RW
20:48
Speaker 2: And I know what the I know, I know what
20:50
Speaker 2: the score is. I've been this, I accomplished this, I
20:53
Speaker 2: graduated to you know, got a master's degree and all
20:56
Speaker 2: this stuff, business and everything like that. But he said,
20:58
Speaker 2: well who are you? And I said hmm. He said,
21:03
Speaker 2: you know, most of us go through life with sleepwalking.
21:07
Speaker 2: You've heard this before with sleepwalking. And you know, you
21:11
Speaker 2: live a life and you get to the end of
21:12
Speaker 2: it and bang your dead and what did you do?
21:14
Speaker 2: Did you even know yourself? How can you know others?
21:17
Speaker 2: How can you know others if you don't even know yourself?
21:20
Speaker 2: And Frank you say to say this to me all
21:22
Speaker 2: the time. He said, That's why I started writing stuff.
21:25
Speaker 2: I started with my what I call my cogitations. Then
21:28
Speaker 2: I tried poetry, and oh man, I love poets. I
21:32
Speaker 2: tell you what. I never read poetry in my life
21:34
Speaker 2: until I started to try a boy, until I started
21:41
Speaker 2: writing it. Poets, you can write this down. There are
21:45
Speaker 2: people that are off the chart. They are exceptional. They
21:47
Speaker 2: can take words and make you think, and really that's
21:52
Speaker 2: what it's all about, and make you see a vision
21:55
Speaker 2: that you may not have ever thought about. But they
21:58
Speaker 2: can do that with words. To me, it's just absolutely
22:03
Speaker 2: it's a gift. And I never thought, you know, poets
22:07
Speaker 2: yelling right my world? Didn't you with poetry? And I said, well,
22:12
Speaker 2: you they're great. The men and women that write poetry,
22:15
Speaker 2: that are poets, I mean that can really write poet.
22:18
Speaker 2: I'm not talking rhymes and jingle.
22:20
Speaker 3: Right right, all right, poets and writers.
22:23
Speaker 2: Writing this book gave me such a how about that dible?
22:28
Speaker 2: Oh justin I can't you know writers? I thought it
22:32
Speaker 2: would be easy. Yeah, right. Two and a half years
22:35
Speaker 2: after I started writing this thing, I'm still pulling my
22:38
Speaker 2: hair out, you know.
22:40
Speaker 1: You know You've given me something, though, RW that that
22:43
Speaker 1: can't go missed. And the reason why it is because
22:45
Speaker 1: this is a full circle moment for me. Not even
22:48
Speaker 1: an hour and a half ago, I put up on
22:49
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio a an essay of sorts as they call them,
22:53
Speaker 1: and that it's all based on you asked the question
22:56
Speaker 1: who are you? My question on iHeartRadio was who are you?
23:00
Speaker 1: In the eyes of the people who think they know you?
23:03
Speaker 1: So therefore, I mean, so it's say you're asking who
23:06
Speaker 1: are you? I want to know who they think we are?
23:09
Speaker 1: Our w What do they think since they don't know
23:11
Speaker 1: your full story until they read this book, who do
23:14
Speaker 1: they think you are?
23:15
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
23:16
Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh, and listen one of the things and I
23:22
Speaker 2: call this, I call this if you want to attribute
23:26
Speaker 2: something to me that I think is worthwhile, listen to
23:29
Speaker 2: what I want to tell you about. I think today
23:33
Speaker 2: with all the methods of communication, the bombardment of this
23:40
Speaker 2: kind of communication, the newspapers, the television, the magazines, the
23:47
Speaker 2: social media or the Facebook stuff chitters, the chats and
23:52
Speaker 2: all the tweets. And I don't use that stuff. I'm
23:55
Speaker 2: an analog guy. I come, I don't get this digital stuff.
24:00
Speaker 2: But I use it, but I don't like it. And
24:03
Speaker 2: I'm telling you what all it does is it leads
24:07
Speaker 2: to what I call the nonsense of the noise, and
24:11
Speaker 2: it bombards us every moment of our waking life. It
24:16
Speaker 2: prevents you from thinking. And what it does is it
24:21
Speaker 2: puts stuff into your mind that is worthless crap. And
24:27
Speaker 2: it's done deliberately. And again I'm getting back to this,
24:31
Speaker 2: and this is something that I'm working on in my mind,
24:35
Speaker 2: I think it's done deliberately, use that these tools are
24:39
Speaker 2: done deliberately to divide the country, and it's they're doing
24:45
Speaker 2: a good job of it. I mean, we are divided
24:48
Speaker 2: like I've never seen it before. And you know, I
24:52
Speaker 2: don't know what's going to happen here. I ain't got
24:54
Speaker 2: much longer, But guys like you, I think you're going
24:57
Speaker 2: to see something that you wouldn't believe just years ago.
25:01
Speaker 2: We believe it.
25:02
Speaker 1: When did you When did you develop that voice in
25:06
Speaker 1: the way my father used to tell me all the time.
25:08
Speaker 1: One day you're going to be that man that's going
25:11
Speaker 1: to be able to say something and people will finally
25:13
Speaker 1: sit down to listen to you. In other words, he
25:15
Speaker 1: said that, he says that when and because I'll be
25:17
Speaker 1: sixty four here in the next couple of months. And
25:19
Speaker 1: the thing is is that, you know, it's like, when
25:21
Speaker 1: do I hit that age where I'm going to be
25:23
Speaker 1: like our W and say something and people are going
25:26
Speaker 1: to say, my god, oh my god, this guy paid
25:30
Speaker 1: attention and here's growing years. My god, this our w
25:33
Speaker 1: guy has someone to really look into.
25:35
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I again, I got the only explanation
25:42
Speaker 2: that I had for this, and this is what I
25:44
Speaker 2: also truly believe. It's within all of us. Yeah, it's
25:48
Speaker 2: within all of us to do this. It's just whether
25:52
Speaker 2: or not you can get out of the nonsense of
25:54
Speaker 2: the noise long.
25:55
Speaker 3: Enough you can pleasure do it. Yep, God bless and.
25:57
Speaker 2: That's what I did. Fortunately I did that I can't
26:03
Speaker 2: and again it was with the help of my friend,
26:06
Speaker 2: dear friend who's passed now, mister Creshido, and I hope
26:10
Speaker 2: to see him on the other side, Like I ate
26:12
Speaker 2: a book, and he was just great politically, we were
26:18
Speaker 2: at opposite end of the spectrum. Amazing, but well we
26:23
Speaker 2: could talk with each other because I respected him and
26:26
Speaker 2: he respected me, and we talk with each other. It
26:31
Speaker 2: wasn't a situation where you're talking where you're trying to
26:33
Speaker 2: put the other guy down. That's what I see today,
26:36
Speaker 2: you know, step on the other guy, step right on
26:38
Speaker 2: the throope, make him look like a jerk so no
26:40
Speaker 2: one will vote for him, or no one will give
26:42
Speaker 2: him money or whatever the hell, and listen to him.
26:44
Speaker 2: You can make up whatever you want. But in answer
26:47
Speaker 2: to your question, it happened to me Jesus, like I said,
26:53
Speaker 2: when I had that epicity, and I started I think
26:56
Speaker 2: it was a twenty sixteen I started writing my I
27:00
Speaker 2: call cogitations. Now this is cogitations, opinions, horse sense, and horseshit.
27:07
Speaker 2: That's what I say was, That's what I named That's
27:10
Speaker 2: what I named it. So and I've got I kept
27:12
Speaker 2: it all. I wrote it. When something popped in my head,
27:15
Speaker 2: I wrote it down because if I didn't, you know,
27:18
Speaker 2: I forgot about it or something like that. And I've
27:21
Speaker 2: kept a lot of this since twenty and sixteen. And
27:26
Speaker 2: that's what I'm as much as proud of is that
27:28
Speaker 2: as I am in writing this book, because I write
27:31
Speaker 2: my thoughts down and I want to leave it to
27:33
Speaker 2: my kids, who they don't know me. I'm their father,
27:37
Speaker 2: but they really don't know their father, you know, because
27:40
Speaker 2: his father, their father, doesn't even know who the hell
27:42
Speaker 2: he is. How do they know who I am? So
27:45
Speaker 2: hopefully by doing this, I leave something for them that
27:49
Speaker 2: they can appreciate. They may not like it, but at
27:52
Speaker 2: least it gives them some idea of how big of
27:54
Speaker 2: an asshole pardon me, how big of an ass or
27:57
Speaker 2: old man was?
27:58
Speaker 3: I love it.
27:59
Speaker 1: Where can people go to find out more about RW?
28:02
Speaker 1: Because This is definitely one of those reads where you know,
28:05
Speaker 1: in the summertime when people are out at the lakes fishing,
28:08
Speaker 1: or whether they're out at the ocean or wherever they're traveling,
28:10
Speaker 1: or even on an airplane traveling someplace. I want them
28:13
Speaker 1: to be able to embrace this book, but they need
28:16
Speaker 1: to take a yellow highlighter with them, because you say,
28:19
Speaker 1: some junk here that cannot be forgotten and then stuffed
28:22
Speaker 1: away into a book.
28:24
Speaker 2: Wow, oh man, you're you're blowing my doors off here, buddy.
28:29
Speaker 2: You can buy them. You can buy the hardback, paperback
28:33
Speaker 2: and ebook from Amazon. Nice okay, Amazon dot com. They
28:38
Speaker 2: got that. I got an audio book that I put out.
28:41
Speaker 2: They convinced me, you know, Zone said, you know a
28:44
Speaker 2: couple of grand and will produce an audio book for you.
28:47
Speaker 2: So I produced the audio book with this stipulation that
28:50
Speaker 2: as much as the it's the Southern dialect, it is
28:53
Speaker 2: really hard to mimic, you know, in these the heroes.
28:56
Speaker 2: And I told them, I said, if you put in
28:59
Speaker 2: actual black narrators to do the dialect, you know, with
29:05
Speaker 2: the black folks in the book, I think that would
29:09
Speaker 2: be lend credibility to the book instead of just having
29:15
Speaker 2: the narrator say the whole thing all the way through,
29:17
Speaker 2: you know, and speak in all different voices, I mean,
29:20
Speaker 2: one voice for all different people. And they did that.
29:23
Speaker 2: I think the audiobook is they did it as good
29:26
Speaker 2: as they can do it. Yeah, the dialect is tough
29:30
Speaker 2: to do, man, but I thought that was needed.
29:35
Speaker 1: Well, you know, you know, Mark Twain said one thing
29:37
Speaker 1: and that in that autobiography that he puts together. He says,
29:40
Speaker 1: if you do not put your own accent inside your writing,
29:44
Speaker 1: then you're going to be missing out on telling the
29:46
Speaker 1: true heart and soul of a nation that's growing and
29:48
Speaker 1: and and that and so so when I love that
29:50
Speaker 1: you're talking about that. Because so many people want to
29:52
Speaker 1: run away from the South. I'm in the South. I
29:54
Speaker 1: live down here. I don't want anything Southern to disappear
29:58
Speaker 1: because all these dang Northerners are coming down here right now,
30:01
Speaker 1: and I really think it's going to be messing up
30:03
Speaker 1: the soil down here in the South because I don't
30:05
Speaker 1: want that northern accent down here.
30:07
Speaker 2: Yeah. I well, we welcome him in Florida. Where do
30:12
Speaker 2: you live.
30:13
Speaker 3: I'm in Carolina?
30:14
Speaker 2: All right? Well, I remember in Carolina, one of one
30:19
Speaker 2: of my first jobs. I went out with a guy
30:21
Speaker 2: and we were at in the back country and uh oh,
30:25
Speaker 2: Mike said, he said he had to go into the
30:27
Speaker 2: seven eleven story. He says, there's a forty four magnum
30:30
Speaker 2: underneath the underneath the seat and it's floaded. I looked,
30:36
Speaker 2: there's the first day on the job. And that was
30:38
Speaker 2: in North Carolina, New Bern, North Carolina. Oh my, we've
30:41
Speaker 2: gone out in the boonies. You never know what's going
30:43
Speaker 2: to happen out here. And this was, my god, oh
30:49
Speaker 2: forty some years ago. God, I mean, I can't even
30:52
Speaker 2: remember how long ago it was now about maybe even longer. Yeah,
30:56
Speaker 2: I'd say about forty some years ago. And I said,
30:59
Speaker 2: oh my god, I said, okay, I'm out of the military. Man.
31:02
Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't surprise me, doesn't spook me or
31:05
Speaker 2: anything like that. But yeah, it's But we in Florida
31:11
Speaker 2: we tell him down here, guys, bring your money, bring
31:16
Speaker 2: your work ethic, but don't bring your politics. Leave that.
31:20
Speaker 2: Leave that up up. You're leaving. You're leaving the place.
31:24
Speaker 2: Why why are you leaving the place? You don't like
31:26
Speaker 2: it there, and you voted for those people and they're
31:30
Speaker 2: in there and they're telling you what to do, taking
31:31
Speaker 2: your money and telling you how to live, and all
31:33
Speaker 2: this other stuff, telling you how to raise your kids.
31:37
Speaker 2: You come down here, leave that junk up there where
31:41
Speaker 2: you came from, and help us down here to get
31:44
Speaker 2: the country free again. That's what I'm saying. And you
31:48
Speaker 2: know you're talking to a guy. I mean, I went
31:51
Speaker 2: in the service. JFK was President of the United States,
31:55
Speaker 2: and I thought he was I thought he walked on
31:57
Speaker 2: water Man. But politics, politics is politics is not what
32:06
Speaker 2: I don't think is what's going on here. I think
32:09
Speaker 2: it's an ideology battle. You see this guy that has
32:12
Speaker 2: just been elected to mayor in New York. He claims
32:16
Speaker 2: he's a socialist. But I'm looking at this and I'm saying,
32:19
Speaker 2: then you're looking awful, like to me, like maybe you're
32:23
Speaker 2: a little bit more communist than you are a socialist.
32:26
Speaker 2: You want to you want to. You know, if communism
32:29
Speaker 2: is you cant control of everything, people don't own anything.
32:32
Speaker 2: Socialism is people own property, but the government tells him
32:36
Speaker 2: what to do with their property, and capitalism says, you know,
32:40
Speaker 2: it's your property. You do what you want to within
32:43
Speaker 2: certain rules and regulations that we got to have because
32:46
Speaker 2: you know, we're all greedy bastards and so you got
32:50
Speaker 2: to have that. But I think this is racism is
32:54
Speaker 2: a is a tool in quality of distribution of money. Uh,
33:04
Speaker 2: that's also a tool. There's a lot of tools that
33:07
Speaker 2: are being used now to divide the country instead of
33:09
Speaker 2: putting it trying to get it together again. Because I'll
33:12
Speaker 2: tell you, I I hate to say this, but I
33:17
Speaker 2: don't think. I don't think we can bring the country together.
33:20
Speaker 2: I really don't.
33:21
Speaker 3: But it's going to take voices like yours. It's going
33:23
Speaker 3: to take voices like yours. Tell I don't know, don't
33:27
Speaker 3: you give up on me? There I am. Don't you
33:29
Speaker 3: give up on me? Or don't you do it?
33:33
Speaker 2: I'm still writing. I'm still writing, and I don't think
33:36
Speaker 2: i'll do another book again. I think i'll we know
33:39
Speaker 2: with guys like you helping to promote this thing, that
33:42
Speaker 2: that's going to be the turning turning point right now
33:45
Speaker 2: if not too many people know I wrote this thing,
33:48
Speaker 2: and and quite frankly, I'm scared to death. I'm scared
33:53
Speaker 2: to death if a whole bunch of people do stop
33:55
Speaker 2: reading this stuff and something happens or you know, I'm
34:00
Speaker 2: not sure I can handle them money age. I'm really
34:03
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know. I did what I did
34:07
Speaker 2: and them, and I'm tickled to death that I did it,
34:10
Speaker 2: and I will help anybody. But if it's going to
34:14
Speaker 2: go any further than this, someone else is going to
34:17
Speaker 2: have to pick up the ball and run with it.
34:20
Speaker 1: That's it, dude. You got to come back to this
34:22
Speaker 1: show anytime in the future. I normally only do ten
34:24
Speaker 1: minute conversations, and look how long you had my attention.
34:28
Speaker 1: My god, I can't wait to see what you're going
34:30
Speaker 1: to do with the rest of the world.
34:33
Speaker 2: Well, don't be disappointed, man, because, like I said, I'm
34:35
Speaker 2: eighty two and I'm still still writing my cogitations and
34:41
Speaker 2: someone said I should print those things up.
34:43
Speaker 3: But yes, yes, yeah, I don't know.
34:46
Speaker 1: Okay, that's like every every day I write a prayer
34:49
Speaker 1: in my daily writing and my heart is saying, you
34:51
Speaker 1: got to release this, you got to put these And
34:53
Speaker 1: I'm going, why would I release a bunch of stupid prayers?
34:55
Speaker 1: And I'm going, really, you think they're stupid?
34:58
Speaker 3: No, yeah, they're.
35:00
Speaker 1: There for other people too, dude. Don't just keep them
35:02
Speaker 1: to yourself. That's selfish, buddy.
35:04
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, if like I said, I can't tell you
35:09
Speaker 2: how this has made me feel that I have a
35:12
Speaker 2: man of a guy of your wisdom and knowledge and
35:17
Speaker 2: that appreciates this and has given me so much encouragement.
35:23
Speaker 2: I just and I said to my buddy Frank, I said,
35:27
Speaker 2: you know, Frank, if this just affects one or two people,
35:32
Speaker 2: I consider that a success. I do, and I right
35:37
Speaker 2: now I am a successful author. I may not have
35:42
Speaker 2: sold a whole many a lot of books, but I
35:45
Speaker 2: consider myself a successful author. And I'm tickled with that. God,
35:50
Speaker 2: I'm walking on air right like you, man, And anytime you
35:56
Speaker 2: want me to listen. Anytime you want me to come
36:00
Speaker 2: on your show and talk about something, you can call
36:03
Speaker 2: me anytime.
36:04
Speaker 3: I'm there.
36:06
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know if you I don't know if
36:09
Speaker 2: you know how to get in touch with me or not?
36:11
Speaker 3: Sure I do you? You're in my show right now.
36:13
Speaker 3: What do you mean? Do I do I know how
36:14
Speaker 3: to get in touch with you? Of course I do.
36:16
Speaker 3: I figure, my god, you wouldn't be here if I
36:18
Speaker 3: didn't know how to do that. Okay, Okay, well, you
36:22
Speaker 3: be brilliant today. Okay, you be brilliant.
36:26
Speaker 2: Man anymore. I try to be whatever I could be
36:29
Speaker 2: whenever I wake up in the morning. It's you'll get there.
36:35
Speaker 2: I hope you'll get there and you'll see what I'm all.
36:37
Speaker 2: But my mind, my mind works, but parts of my
36:41
Speaker 2: body don't anymore.
36:42
Speaker 3: That's okay. You got that money, all right, brother, all right?
36:45
Speaker 2: Listen, man, it has been a pleasure, and you want
36:47
Speaker 2: to get in touch with me. Anytime you want to talk,
36:51
Speaker 2: I will be there to talk with you and anything
36:53
Speaker 2: you want to talk about. I got a lot of
36:55
Speaker 2: information jammed in the my nog and and if you're
37:00
Speaker 2: want to listen to the nonsense, I'll talk with you anytime.
37:05
Speaker 3: Have a great day, sir, you too.