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- 0:00OK, good morning. We are starting Hilko Sabadi
- 0:02continuing towards the end. Reish samakh Zain.
- 0:06OK, so we are on si EIN. Hey, 75.
- 0:10All right, This is certainly one of the longer simanium Ha Omer
- 0:14asiti poloni Avi Benhorin. So this person, this master, he
- 0:20says I I made my slave free. He's a free man.
- 0:25Woohoo Omar Osani and the Evid, when you ask him himself he goes
- 0:30what are you talking about? He didn't free me Koshishim.
- 0:34So we're afraid perhaps Shema Zihalo Ayudi Akhra.
- 0:40So perhaps the Evid doesn't know about it.
- 0:43But behind his back the owner did free him.
- 0:46He could. There's no way to to prove if
- 0:49the Evid knows about it or not. And the one who freed him is
- 0:54telling him he did. But therefore we're we have to
- 0:57assume with caution. Perhaps so here the Mahogas
- 1:02Mashak he points out Mahogas Duran says he is.
- 1:07We treat him like a Israel Gummer because the more because
- 1:11the his owner. We we trust him ETF and eman
- 1:14who's suing. And so he's higher.
- 1:16So now the evidence is higher than mitzvos like a man.
- 1:20However, we don't let him marry unless he has a get shihwa Tosos
- 1:26and the rush say no, you don't even need a get shekhar.
- 1:30The da qashim havi havi Kamal vadais 100% and you don't even
- 1:37need now that which we don't need a get shekhar.
- 1:40But you still need we still need to know that he was tobel in
- 1:46order to become in order to to marry.
- 1:50It's not enough to have a get shekhar, he also has to Tobel.
- 1:53A shame Aguirre Sissel in order to be a fool Yissel if he wants
- 1:58to to get married to a a Jewess. OK, but minor details there.
- 2:04Let's continue to the main point Aval IM Ammar Kattafti get
- 2:08Sheikhur, but let's say he says I wrote hey, get Sheikhur when I
- 2:13talk to you about and I gave it to him.
- 2:15So the first case was he perhaps gave it to somebody else and
- 2:21every wouldn't know about it. But if in his admission or
- 2:25acknowledgement he's telling you I gave it to him and that's how
- 2:29he became free with Omer. Look at Tavolo Notan and then
- 2:35the evident himself says what are you talking about?
- 2:38You never wrote or gave me anything.
- 2:41So Hadas Bal didn't give me a hate him.
- 2:43So that is when a person is talking about himself, he stands
- 2:48not as an adekhat Namanvi surin like the first guy.
- 2:52This guy is the Evid himself since now he's involved in the
- 2:56story, right? He said he gave it to his hand.
- 2:59So he is like 180 that's his power.
- 3:02So therefore Hareza Evid. So now the evid stays as an Evid
- 3:06100% because it's like one against 100.
- 3:08So the the master doesn't doesn't stand a chance.
- 3:11So Hagah now if they both take back, they take back on what
- 3:16they said the IM Hazar Rabo, the Almer Alonetati.
- 3:20But now let's say the master changes his mind.
- 3:22He's actually I never gave it to him.
- 3:23The lawyer Khala Evan locks of now that Evan can't now change
- 3:27his mind and says he gave it to me.
- 3:29You can't trust him anymore, or at least not the news story Beem
- 3:33Raghu Omidiburo. However, if the master not
- 3:36necessarily that we believe him, but if he's going to keep on
- 3:39screaming no, no, no, he's insistent.
- 3:41He's saying no I I freedom. So then Kofino tell the Cote
- 3:47vlog get Scheffler. So now, since he's announcing
- 3:51him to be a free man. Well, now, right, You have to
- 3:56take care of the person and you can't leave him in this funny
- 3:59situation and he must write him a get Shikhar, right?
- 4:03He's basically saying he's a free man.
- 4:05So he now he just needs to come up with, we forced him to come
- 4:08up with the get Shikhar so the Avid can continue and move on
- 4:12with his life. Let's go to ayin vah Amar la
- 4:18ahar zaheba get Shikhar ZE la ABI.
- 4:21So now the master new case, the master writes a get Shikhar.
- 4:25He owns the avid. There's no question he has his
- 4:28get Shikhar that he writes up and he instead of giving it to
- 4:31the Evan in his hand, he's giving it to 1 of you and he
- 4:34says here you take it and acquire it for him and yatza Las
- 4:40heirut. So then he automatically goes
- 4:42free right then and there. Alpha P Shaloh, right, right
- 4:45then and there. At that moment when you give it
- 4:47to this person, he Zolka for him, right.
- 4:49We say Zakim Adam Shalogafanov, right, That's a Mahoga straight
- 4:54and Giton, if it's a hover, is a hust for the evit.
- 4:57Some evit. They like this nurse.
- 4:58They like to be free, but we overall we pass gonna.
- 5:02It's a hust for him and therefore it's it's it's it's
- 5:06called it's a binding alpha Bishuluy Gieli other evit, even
- 5:09if the evit never receives his who star shook horn in his hand,
- 5:14he's free. So even if the master dies right
- 5:16now, he's still a free man and doesn't need to get from the
- 5:21ocean. But if he says here, take this
- 5:26and you're my basically, you're my Shalia, you're my my delivery
- 5:31service. You're going to go bring it to
- 5:32him and then you're like an extension of my hand really.
- 5:36And then when it gets to him, then it's going to be called so
- 5:39Aniako Lakserbo. So number one, you're not
- 5:41allowed to change in your mind anymore.
- 5:42Once you you establish someone as being free right on the way,
- 5:47then you can't go back anymore. But veloyetsa ha avid lahirud
- 5:54acehiya haget liado. But he can't.
- 5:58But he's not actually free, at least not his body.
- 6:01Maybe on maybe we did Mamun not sure, but certainly he saw his
- 6:07his body, his goof. He certainly the Evid still
- 6:10belongs to the master because he never got that get shukhwan so
- 6:14velietsa evid lachiwa get liago until he reaches his hand that
- 6:18the delivery service was only a delivery service and they didn't
- 6:21receive it for him so therefore he's is not free yet so the.
- 6:26Class explains this is totally in the sugiya of 10 is free.
- 6:31So that's a that's a question they.
- 6:33Can't be close there, but it's not like he didn't say it's OK.
- 6:36So it's done, yeah. Correct one second Lafika I Omar
- 6:45Tinu Gedzella Abdif. A person says give it to my
- 6:48slave Loyi Tanula Akar Mita. So therefore the delivery
- 6:52service can't give it after the master dies it's too late and
- 6:56the Yoshima are going to have to give it to him.
- 6:59The Yaesh Omrin the IM Nathan. I get Liada Shulia for the Al
- 7:03Martin. Well, Abdi get Zeh some there's
- 7:08time to see it. Some could be shown him some
- 7:10hold that when you do say give it to my to my slave, it's
- 7:16you're not considered. It's not considered a delivery
- 7:18service. We assume Khaveki ilu amarlo
- 7:22Zahelo. It's as if he told him, and this
- 7:26is what's his intention that he acquire it for him.
- 7:29He used the Lushano give it to him, but he meant to say acquire
- 7:33it for him. And so that's a mahogas rishoni.
- 7:38I would assume either way, like Akhila, we would make him get a
- 7:42gechikwa from the ocean, but if he dies, he'll need to get the
- 7:47kitchen. But that's the mahogas.
- 7:49Exactly the opposite. But.
- 7:57Yeah, yeah. I'll just point out we'll
- 8:02discuss after it's it's the opposite, but we'll we'll talk
- 8:06when the you know, you wanted to quote the the Taz also points
- 8:10out when it comes to giving a gift, we all agree that when a
- 8:15person says 10, it's not Kazakh. He doesn't have the power of a
- 8:19choir. It's just has it means you're
- 8:21going to give it to him in the future through the Shalia.
- 8:24But when it comes to you know, the reason why it's a Maklok is
- 8:28here and also everyone agrees there by Omatana by a gift here
- 8:32we say it's a Mahlokis regarding avid because question is also do
- 8:38we look at it like a Shin would Hagoo like a person owes money a
- 8:41person that we assume this is the reasoning.
- 8:44One of the reasons for the the second of the a showroom is
- 8:47because we assume why is he freeing him?
- 8:50Because he owes him a favor and the reason he feels indebted to
- 8:54the slave, he, he did so much for him.
- 8:57Maybe he saved, saved him or whatever it is, he just did him
- 9:00a lot of good work and he wants to let him go free.
- 9:02He feels indebted. So how does he get rid of that
- 9:05in debt? That debt that he feels is he
- 9:07lets him go free. And we know that if a person,
- 9:11you don't give a gift when you say 10, it's a verbal gift.
- 9:15There's no acquisition, there's no nicer, there's no physical
- 9:18action that makes it acquired. But when a person owes money,
- 9:22you can just tell him to his face, I forgive your loan and
- 9:25then it gets forgiven. So anyway, that's some more
- 9:27question. How you how do we look at it?
- 9:28Hey, Rachel sama Zain ayen Zain mishit siba Bishop mitato paloni
- 9:33shikhati al isht Abduba. A person looks like he's going
- 9:39to he's on his deathbed and he tells the people in the room,
- 9:41listen, I'm commanding that my my shift call over here.
- 9:47So and so her name my favorite Shivka, whatever it is all of
- 9:51them doesn't doesn't matter. He makes it's Ava that when I
- 9:55let I want her to go. You're not allowed a worker,
- 9:57you're not allowed a worker. So then you're actually the
- 10:02Yoshim were not allowed to. I used to have to do by Yoshim
- 10:04Harezo Shivka Kumosha haita so halakhali.
- 10:09She didn't go free. He didn't free her.
- 10:11He just said don't work her right Kumosha haita.
- 10:14So she's the same Shivka right, her guf she's still in in the
- 10:18Shivka right a slave. But asur le Yorshim le Stabenba.
- 10:24It's absolutely user for the Yorshim to to to make her work
- 10:28right because that was his right.
- 10:31A person has to listen to his, to that sava whenever it's
- 10:37regarding his money and it's his affairs.
- 10:40When it applies to him, let's say his burial, let's say
- 10:43anything that applies to him directly and his money, one is
- 10:46obligated to listen to. Exactly what is it, Mr.
- 10:50Darabonto? Mr. Darisa?
- 10:52Certainly there's a Kiyom Darisa, but right of makayam.
- 10:57So we're about to say that there's a gomara and giten here.
- 11:00I'll just point that out right now and we're going to see a bit
- 11:02more. There's a mitzvah and giten,
- 11:05right giten gomara and daf yudalid and mem where it says
- 11:11mitzvah lakayam divreha Mace. Even if it's not your parents,
- 11:16there's a mitzvah to listen to what he tells you to do.
- 11:18And so the question is, what's the heel on that one?
- 11:22Gomara does not give a reason, the Kumar says by Srivmara.
- 11:25Srivmara says such and such is is I want to go to somebody,
- 11:29it's binding, it's a takana MI durabanan mishu magma snefesh,
- 11:33Shamati tarafdar tell a person is in his agma snefesh and it
- 11:38might cause him to die earlier and that's his, that's what he
- 11:41wants and it's just too difficult.
- 11:42So that Khazal made a takana durabanan.
- 11:48Is it Hefker days in Hefker or whatever it is?
- 11:51I'm not exactly sure, but Sir, but it's it's Akana Darabana.
- 11:54That's that's works Miami slush and we have Takana Tashuk
- 11:58because it's what's going to be it's going to work for the
- 12:01people. But when it come for business.
- 12:05But when it comes to this that they don't they don't explain
- 12:07exactly what's the KOA. So what is it?
- 12:10So I heard a couple different, I read a couple different options
- 12:13of what the KOA is. It might be a Dindar Isa and I
- 12:18supported mushem the Ramban that it's either Medina Makayan
- 12:22Makhasid. Someone mentioned to me it's in
- 12:27Ravashawai. Sinakhasashi quotes someone
- 12:31quoting the the Ramban and I didn't see it inside so I can't
- 12:34say for sure. But based on the puzzle, could
- 12:36be ASU banavlo kin ashurt sivam. It seems more of an asmatta, but
- 12:43that's from the sons of Bene Israel Vayukhi, A gracious nun
- 12:47yabbis, where it's the sons listen to their fathers.
- 12:51You see this concept at least in in in the Torah.
- 12:54But it could be a kiyum Akiba daba.
- 12:57Aim for sure if it's apparent. But anyways, how much of A
- 13:04technical kiyu vernaat? That's a question on the Dinder
- 13:07Isa level, but he also says meetsad Sadiq vah masah
- 13:12masahatara. That's what the Torah really
- 13:14wants from you. It's obvious.
- 13:15That's what I'll show wise, right?
- 13:20It would it would be it would be classic cubit of it.
- 13:23And if it's apparent, but even if it's not apparent, it's
- 13:27there's still still an Indian. OK, anyways, there's certainly a
- 13:36kiyum at least on a level of mitzvah Durabanan.
- 13:39I mean, I think there I think Pashta should say we'll just say
- 13:43when it's Gomorrah says you have to listen, it's a certainly at
- 13:47least a mitzvah Durabanan with a kiyum of the araisa.
- 13:51But let's let's go back to right, correct, Correct.
- 14:01OK, the EM ahmar Asulah Korat Ruach.
- 14:04And if the father tells the people in the room or his
- 14:08children, Asulah Koratura kofin ET ayorshin the EN Mishtami by
- 14:15Ella Bimlaka Shahi wrote Sava. So if he says listen, make sure
- 14:21she's happy, she's comfortable. I'm I'm acquiring, I'm asking
- 14:24you only work her on things that she's interested in doing.
- 14:28So one has to listen to her and you have to ask her, is this
- 14:30something that you're willing to do?
- 14:32And then she goes, I'm not, I don't, I don't know.
- 14:33I don't, I don't do dishes, I don't do ironing.
- 14:36Whatever she comes up with. Well, she can't then you can't
- 14:39ask her to do that. And some of the risheline the
- 14:43Shah points out and it's mentioned in the by the Rama and
- 14:46Kosher Mishpat. And even if she says, you know
- 14:49what, I'm not going to have any Yeshua vadas unless you free me.
- 14:54There's no such thing as karat Ruach.
- 14:56I'm not, there's no karat Ruach with me.
- 14:58I'm not at ease unless you make me free.
- 15:01So they hold you have to free her.
- 15:03OK, so that's a mock log as we've shown him.
- 15:06But anyway, so that's that's the shock point.
- 15:08So Haga, we're going to talk about the Olam Bam Tabodo in a
- 15:16moment. Let's just let's try and get
- 15:18read through this a little bit. And the are not allowed, right?
- 15:26If he tells you you can't work her or if he tells you only to
- 15:30the level of Karat Ruach, the stuff that she's happy to do so
- 15:34willing to do so then you can't sell her because then if you
- 15:38sell her, the buyers might do whatever they want with her
- 15:42right. Technically they can work her
- 15:43very hard. Bane sha Amar, it's.
- 15:46Sell that level. Of yeah, you can't sell that.
- 15:49It's not enforceable. Bane sha Almar al Ishtabdu by
- 15:55yourself. Bane sha Almar Yasuva Qaratruwa
- 15:57right In either case, you can't sell her to someone else.
- 16:00We aimed Siva and if he commands the Almar and she says I want
- 16:07you to free her, he's not in a state of mind as as the Shreve
- 16:11Mera. You can easily free her Mithin
- 16:13Maman, but not the Guf you still need.
- 16:16All right, That's all. It's Shreve Mera.
- 16:18That's all it did there, Aban. I mean, it's my focus in the
- 16:21kumara there is there abandoned. We I think we all assume it's
- 16:23there abandoned the chakraer OTA.
- 16:28So the Allah is we force the basin, the Yoshim.
- 16:31They must free her Ayin and I'll get to Ola Bahamantavoto in a
- 16:35moment. Ayin Shreve mehra shikata kol
- 16:40nahasa le Aldo and right This is the case when personnel on on
- 16:44his deathbed. You don't really know Shreve
- 16:46Mehra is a Shreve Mehra until after he doesn't get up or does
- 16:49get up right. Shreve Mehra basically is 1
- 16:52who's in bed, he's on his deathbed and he's not going to
- 16:55get up again and he doesn't even if he walks around, he's still a
- 16:58Shiv Mera. Even if he goes home, but he's
- 17:00still deathly ill until he's healthy, he's no.
- 17:04So anyways, in that time period, he can make things binding
- 17:08without having to written down the contest of plumbing and but
- 17:12you don't always know if he's going to get better or not get
- 17:14better. So it's you find out what I'm
- 17:16afraid of whatever Shiv Mera Shikata called Nafasa Ahmed
- 17:20kozar Binafasa the Ahmad and he gets up healthy.
- 17:25So he's no longer a shave Mira so hozer binafasim.
- 17:28So we say le mafreya, everything that he gave away, all of his
- 17:32verbal transactions are null and void and it all goes back to
- 17:36him. So he owns her again.
- 17:37But the the ain't no Hozer the evid.
- 17:41But once you pronounce an evid free, you can't go back anymore.
- 17:46Shaharay Kovar Yatza Allah of shame, Ben Khorin, because you
- 17:51already pronounced him as a Ben Khorin.
- 17:53Everybody on the street thinks now he's free.
- 17:55It'll make a big mess and you have to give 100% because he's
- 18:01not free otherwise. So but he has to.
- 18:05OK, let's read. I am Ted and then we we will
- 18:09talk briefly about Olam Behem Talboto, a person who freeze his
- 18:15slave Olver beyasse de la olan behen TA al godu, right?
- 18:20It's a pasa ka natara bahyukra Cafe mbag.
- 18:22You're not allowed to. It's a it's an ase.
- 18:26It's a you have to continually make your slave work as a stay
- 18:32as a slave. It's usser to freedom.
- 18:35It's not a lutasse, it's an ase. Mutal is Shakaro the devar
- 18:40mitzvah, but it's mutter to free them for a dovar mitzvah afilohi
- 18:45medivrayan, even if it's for a mitzvah darabana.
- 18:48But Lucas big mitzvah, small mitzvah.
- 18:51See, it's alright, mitzvah darabana.
- 18:53But anyways, right now let's just read inside.
- 18:56He says for a mitzvah Kegon shalora, you are sarab the Vita
- 18:59Knesset. The classic example we have from
- 19:03Sacobracos is you need them for the minion in the in the show,
- 19:07but that's called a mitzvah or mitzvah the tsibor and therefore
- 19:11you need them for the minion. So you you're allowed to free
- 19:14him for that purpose. Hareze MI shaklier abdo so
- 19:18you're allowed to free him. You're right on the get shakur
- 19:23umashlin Bo minion asara and now he counts for the minion and any
- 19:30similar mitzvah hefker. And if a person has a shivka and
- 19:40she's being used for his nuts, people are taking advantage of
- 19:43her and there's no coughing at Rava.
- 19:48So then we force the the master of Misha Khara and he has to
- 19:52free her 'cause we can't have this situation, right?
- 19:57Misha Khara Kadesh Tina save the So now she'll be able to marry
- 20:02and she'll be with one husband. And one person and should be
- 20:05able to live in a proper fashion.
- 20:07And we will remove this mixel from her from the from the tea
- 20:10board. Maybe we'll do it one more.
- 20:13I just want to point out the Olam Bhimta Vodu.
- 20:16So it's an interesting. It's a macho between the ran and
- 20:19the and Tosos. When is it allowed?
- 20:24The ran says if you're doing it for the sake of the avid, just a
- 20:29avid or a Shivka for their sake, to make them go free.
- 20:33So that's the isir ASI. But if you're doing it for your
- 20:36own personal benefit, anytime it's for your benefit, then
- 20:40there's no isir ASI. If you feel indebted to the
- 20:43person and it makes you feel good to get her to let him her
- 20:47free, then there's no isir. But if you're doing it for them,
- 20:51then it's asir. If you're doing it so that you
- 20:53can do a mitzvah, then it's a mother, hence for a minion.
- 20:57You're doing it for your sake and it's smutter in a way.
- 21:01There is serving at that point it has to be for you.
- 21:06When it comes to the toast, foe says no.
- 21:09The only reason only even if it's you're benefiting is so
- 21:13asur. That's the isur asur.
- 21:14You have to make him a slave. The only time it's smutter is
- 21:19right. We know we normally we don't say
- 21:20in Ase Dolce Ase we say, we do say in Asse's dokhe lotase, but
- 21:26we don't say in asse dokhe assay.
- 21:28So the run is pretty more is more consistent toast versus
- 21:30way. It depends.
- 21:32If it's for a, it depends. As long as you the it's a
- 21:36greater assay is dokhe a lighter assay and the Ola Amitz, another
- 21:42Ola Mam Taoboto is of the lightest of assays.
- 21:46So therefore, you all you need is even a mitzvah Darabana, any
- 21:50assay, I don't know any assay. Most assays they will certainly
- 21:56be on a higher level. And so therefore, whenever
- 21:58there's a mitzvah involved against question, does it have
- 22:00to be mitzvahed Aravi or just any assay?
- 22:04But many assays are going to be on a higher level, you know,
- 22:09Spila, whatever it is. And so therefore, because one
- 22:13might ask, why does the Yoshim have to listen to the parents to
- 22:16free him right. If a father tells you to do an
- 22:20Avera right, like Lola Mantavo do to free a slave, you're going
- 22:24to listen to a parent to do an avera.
- 22:26So that is the issue is it's not an avera either because now
- 22:31you're listening to your parents and that's a mitzvah for you, or
- 22:35you're benefiting from it, or the father made it in a
- 22:39situation where you're no longer allowed to serve.
- 22:42The person is no longer allowed to serve like a shivmera or
- 22:46whatever it is. You made it on a level where it
- 22:49can't be. The slave can't be served where
- 22:51you're not. You can't have a situation where
- 22:52a slave can't be served. Or has this shame been horing?
- 22:56And so whatever the point is, once we have the cases in Einzai
- 23:01and Einhet, there's no longer an isser of not freeing them.