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Mexican Student Murdered by Boyfriend for Refusing Marriage Proposal · Murder Files Unsealed

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  Speaker 1: So I want you to just imagine a scenario for
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  Speaker 1: a second. Just try to wrap your head around this.
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  Speaker 1: Imagine three totally distinct, completely locked doors.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm picturing it. Right.
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  Speaker 1: And behind the first door, there is a literal physical trap.
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  Speaker 1: Someone is locked in. Behind the second door, you have
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  Speaker 1: this massive, just complete failure of a legal system, a
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  Speaker 1: bureaucratic wall.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the kind of wall that just seems impossible to
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  Speaker 2: get through.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. And then behind that third door, it's just time.
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  Speaker 1: Decades of time passing, freezing a case completely solid. So
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  Speaker 1: the question is like, how do you break those doors down?
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  Speaker 2: That's the real puzzle, right? Because we tend to think
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  Speaker 2: of the truth as this super fragile thing. Like if
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  Speaker 2: you bury it deep enough or wait long enough, it
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  Speaker 2: just disappears.
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  Speaker 1: But it doesn't, does it? Welcome to today's Deep Dive, everyone.
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  Speaker 1: Our mission today is to unpack this really intense, massively
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  Speaker 1: detailed compilation from the true crime YouTube channel 365 Criminal.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and we should just say up front, this source
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  Speaker 2: material is dark. I mean, we are talking about murder,
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  Speaker 2: severe torture, and some truly awful betrayals.
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  Speaker 1: For sure. But, and this is important, our goal today
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  Speaker 1: isn't just to, you know, dwell on the darkness. We
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  Speaker 1: want to extract the anatomy of a breakthrough. We are
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  Speaker 1: looking at how sheer human willpower, relentless family advocacy, and honestly,
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  Speaker 1: some crazy cutting edge science can rip the truth out
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  Speaker 1: into the light when literally all hope seems lost.
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  Speaker 2: I love that framing. Because breaking through those barriers requires
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  Speaker 2: completely different tools. Like you need physiological resilience for one,
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  Speaker 2: societal pressure for another, and then literally the bleeding edge
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  Speaker 2: of genetics for the last.
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  Speaker 1: Right. So let's just dive right into that first barrier,
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  Speaker 1: the physical trap. And to get this, we have to
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  Speaker 1: travel back to July of 1994. We're in Baraboo, Wisconsin.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Baraboo in the mid-90s is, it's really crucial
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  Speaker 2: to understand the psychology of this place. It's your classic
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  Speaker 2: Midwestern small town.
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  Speaker 1: Like nobody locks their doors kind of place.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. Kids are just out roaming the neighborhoods until the
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  Speaker 2: streetlights come on. The idea of like a predatory threat
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  Speaker 2: isn't just rare. It's basically alien to them. They don't
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  Speaker 2: think about it.
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  Speaker 1: Which makes what happens in July 1994 so deeply shocking
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  Speaker 1: for that community. You have this 14-year-old kid, Christian Steiner.
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  Speaker 1: He goes to sleep in his own bed. His dad
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  Speaker 1: checks on him around 10 at night. Everything is totally normal.
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  Speaker 2: Right, just a regular summer night.
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  Speaker 1: But the next morning, his room is completely empty, the
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  Speaker 1: patio door is wide open, and the screen on Christian's
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  Speaker 1: window has been deliberately slashed with a knife.
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  Speaker 2: Which is terrifying. And then outside, trailing away from the house,
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  Speaker 2: are these huge footprints pressed deep into the mud, way
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  Speaker 2: too big to be a 14-year-old's shoes.
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  Speaker 1: So, of course, the town just goes into sheer panic.
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  Speaker 1: But a week later, it ends in tragedy. Christian's body
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  Speaker 1: is found in a local body of freezing water.
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  Speaker 2: And this is where the forensic side gets incredibly disturbing. Because, yes,
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  Speaker 2: the medical examiner says the cause of death is drowning,
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  Speaker 2: but the condition of his body is this bizarre puzzle.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, his legs, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, his legs are just grotesquely deformed. He has these
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  Speaker 2: catastrophic bone fractures that absolutely do not make sense for
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  Speaker 2: a drowning.
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  Speaker 1: Because usually in a drowning, if there are broken bones,
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  Speaker 1: it's from hitting rocks or falling, right?
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  Speaker 2: Exactly, environmental stuff. But Christian's fractures were localized and highly specific.
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  Speaker 2: They showed this staggering amount of torsional force.
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  Speaker 1: Torsional force meaning like twisting. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Someone grabbed his legs and applied a twisting motion with
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  Speaker 2: such extreme violence that it shattered the long bones. It's
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  Speaker 2: a signature of deliberate methodical torture.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. So the police know they have a homicide on
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  Speaker 1: their hands and one with a really dark psychological signature.
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  Speaker 1: And in a town like Baraboo, the rumor mill just
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  Speaker 1: goes wild.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, instantly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone starts pointing fingers at this local teenager named
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  Speaker 1: Joseph Clark. He was known for being a bully. Super
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  Speaker 1: physically intimidating. Just generally unstable.
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  Speaker 2: But the thing about the justice system is, mechanically, you
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  Speaker 2: can't just arrest a guy because the whole town has
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  Speaker 2: a bad feeling about him.
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  Speaker 1: Right, you need evidence.
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  Speaker 2: And they had none. No eyewitnesses. The muddy footprints didn't
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  Speaker 2: have a clear tread. No DNA tying Clark to the
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  Speaker 2: window screen. A case just totally stalls out. It goes
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  Speaker 2: ice cold.
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  Speaker 1: So the town just has to live with this low-level
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  Speaker 1: terror for a whole year. Fast forward to July of 1995.
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  Speaker 1: A new family moves in, the Phillips family. And they
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  Speaker 1: have a 13-year-old son, Thaddeus. Everyone calls him Tad.
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  Speaker 2: And Tad has only been there for two weeks. He
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  Speaker 2: knows nothing about Christian Steiner. He hasn't heard the rumors
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  Speaker 2: about Joseph Clark. He is a total blank slate.
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  Speaker 1: Which honestly makes him so much more vulnerable. So July 28th,
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  Speaker 1: Tad finishes dinner and falls asleep on the carpet right
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  Speaker 1: in front of the TV in his living room.
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  Speaker 2: Super normal kid stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Sometime in the middle of the night, Tad actually
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  Speaker 1: feels himself being physically picked up off the floor. But
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't scream. He doesn't freak out.
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  Speaker 2: Because of drowsy compliance. It's this wild psychological thing where
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  Speaker 2: when you're half asleep, your brain just fills in a
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  Speaker 2: comforting story.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he just assumes his dad found him on the
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  Speaker 1: floor and is carrying him up to bed. Exactly. Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: His threat detection center, the amygdala, is just completely offline.
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  Speaker 2: Being carried is a schema of care for him, not danger.
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  Speaker 1: But then the air feels different. It's colder. He hears
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  Speaker 1: outside noises. He opens his eyes, and he's not in
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  Speaker 1: his house. He's standing on the street in front of
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  Speaker 1: a neighbor's yard. And the guy holding him is definitely
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  Speaker 1: not his dad.
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  Speaker 2: It's Joseph Clark. And Clark is, what, 17 or 18
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  Speaker 2: at this point? Much bigger than a 13-year-old?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, huge size difference. So Clark tells Tad to follow him.
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  Speaker 1: And Tad just does it.
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  Speaker 2: Which again goes back to adolescent psychology. Tad is probably thinking,
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  Speaker 2: is this a hazing thing? Is this my older brother's
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  Speaker 2: weird friend? The cognitive dissonance is just too strong for
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  Speaker 2: him to immediately process that he's being abducted.
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  Speaker 1: So they walk in the dark for like half a mile.
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  Speaker 1: Clark takes them to this house that is just disgusting.
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  Speaker 1: Like absolute squalor. Trash everywhere. Rotting food. Dirty clothes.
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  Speaker 2: A total environment of neglect.
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  Speaker 1: They go upstairs to a bedroom. And the second they
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  Speaker 1: are alone in that room, Clark just snaps. The whole
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  Speaker 1: vibe changes instantly.
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  Speaker 2: The fake calm drops. He gets violently enraged, grabs Tad
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  Speaker 2: and pins him face down on the bed.
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  Speaker 1: And what happens next is just it's so hard to hear,
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  Speaker 1: but it's vital to understand how Tad eventually gets out.
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  Speaker 1: Clark doesn't punch him or pull a knife. He goes
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  Speaker 1: to the foot of the bed, grabs Tad's right foot.
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  Speaker 1: And uses his entire body weight to twist Tad's foot
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  Speaker 1: and lower leg completely backward.
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  Speaker 2: Which causes catastrophic structural failure. I mean, the femur is
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  Speaker 2: the strongest bone in your bottle. Breaking it takes the
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  Speaker 2: force of a high-speed car crash.
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  Speaker 1: And Clark did it with his bare hand.
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  Speaker 2: By using that torsional force, that twisting, he created a
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  Speaker 2: spiral fracture. The bone shatters and all those sharp fragments
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  Speaker 2: instantly shred the muscles and blood vessels inside the leg.
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  Speaker 1: Tad said he vividly remembered the sickening sound of his
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  Speaker 1: own bones snapping. He actually passes out from the pain.
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  Speaker 2: Because his nervous system just overloaded. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And when he wakes up, he expects Clark to still
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  Speaker 1: be attacking him. But Clark is backed away from the bed,
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  Speaker 1: his face in his hands, muttering to himself like he's
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  Speaker 1: having this intense breakdown of remorse.
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  Speaker 2: But it's total theatrical. It's a performance.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Because a few minutes later, Clark just stops muttering,
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  Speaker 1: walks over, and is completely calm again. He looks at Tad,
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  Speaker 1: who is literally writhing in agony, and casually explains that
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  Speaker 1: he has an obsession with the sound of breaking bones.
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  Speaker 2: He's articulating his own pathology clearly. It's chilling.
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  Speaker 1: And then he tells Cad to go to sleep. And
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  Speaker 1: Clark just lies down on a couch in the room
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  Speaker 1: and closes his eyes. Like they're having a normal sleepover.
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  Speaker 2: The psychological whiplash there is just designed to break the
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  Speaker 2: victim's mind.
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  Speaker 1: The next morning, Tad is running on pure survival instinct.
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  Speaker 1: He begs Clark to just let him make one phone
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  Speaker 1: call to his parents. And shockingly, Clark says yes.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, this part is just brutal.
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  Speaker 1: Clark hands Tad the phone handset. Tad dials the number,
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  Speaker 1: waits to hear it ring, and Clark just bursts into
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  Speaker 1: this maniacal laughter. Because he had cut the cord, the
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  Speaker 1: handset wasn't connected to the wall.
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  Speaker 2: It's psychological subjugation. He needs the emotional devastation of giving
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  Speaker 2: Tad false hope just to rip it away. It breaks
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  Speaker 2: down the resilience before he starts the physical torture again.
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  Speaker 1: Because he does start again. He drags Tad back to
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  Speaker 1: the bed, pins him, and violently twist the left leg
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  Speaker 1: exactly the same way.
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  Speaker 2: And Tad tries to fight back this time, right?
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  Speaker 1: He does. He hits Clark in the back. But Clark
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  Speaker 1: threatens to snap his neck or his spine if he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't stop. So Tad has to just submit. Now both
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  Speaker 1: of his legs are completely destroyed.
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  Speaker 2: And this brings up a terrifying part of Clark's profile.
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  Speaker 2: It's this corrupted savior complex or medical abuse. After destroying
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  Speaker 2: Tad's legs, Clark leaves and comes back with all these
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  Speaker 2: medical supplies.
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  Speaker 1: Elastic bandages, rigid splints, brand new white socks. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: He meticulously cleans and wraps the shattered legs. He's doing
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  Speaker 2: first aid on the injuries he just intentionally caused.
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  Speaker 1: Which is just so twisted. Why do that?
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  Speaker 2: It's a god complex. If he just wanted to kill Tad,
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  Speaker 2: he could have. But by stabilizing him, he's prolonging his
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  Speaker 2: life so he can repeat the torture later. He's reducing
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  Speaker 2: Tad from a human being into a biological machine that
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  Speaker 2: he completely controls.
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  Speaker 1: But Tad's physical state is critical. He has massive internal bleeding.
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  Speaker 1: He's slowly bleeding to death inside his own legs. At
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  Speaker 1: this point, Clark says he needs to leave the house
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  Speaker 1: for a bit. And when he's gone, Tad is lying
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  Speaker 1: there in silence. And he realizes something.
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  Speaker 2: His cognitive processing here is just unbelievable for a kid
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  Speaker 2: in that much shock.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. Tad remembers hearing Clark having a one-sided conversation earlier.
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  Speaker 1: Which meant Clark must have been using a working, connected
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  Speaker 1: phone somewhere downstairs.
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  Speaker 2: So Tad knows his only lifeline is on the first floor.
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  Speaker 1: But he can't walk. He can't even crawl normally because
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  Speaker 1: dragging his legs causes blinding pain and makes the bleeding worse.
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  Speaker 1: So he rolls off the bed, drags his upper body
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  Speaker 1: to the top of the wooden stairs, and realizes he
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  Speaker 1: only has one choice.
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  Speaker 2: Pasta weaponized.
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  Speaker 1: Gravity. He literally throws himself head first down the entire
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  Speaker 1: flight of wooden stairs.
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  Speaker 2: And the sheer blunt force trauma of that, plus the
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  Speaker 2: bone fragment shifting around, causes his central nervous system to
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  Speaker 2: just shut down. He blacks out instantly.
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  Speaker 1: When he finally wakes up at the bottom, he starts
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  Speaker 1: dragging himself to the kitchen. But then he hears the
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  Speaker 1: front door open. Clark is back. And he brought a
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  Speaker 1: girlfriend with him.
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  Speaker 2: This is where we see the most insane clash between
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  Speaker 2: biological panic and willpower.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Because if you're bleeding out on the floor and
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  Speaker 1: your torturer walks in, your body's going to flood with adrenaline.
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  Speaker 1: You're going to hyperventilate. It's the fight or flight response.
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  Speaker 1: How does a 13-year-old override millions of years of evolution
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  Speaker 1: to just play dead?
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  Speaker 2: It's called top-down regulation. Normally, your amygdala hijacks your brain
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  Speaker 2: and dumps cortisol to prep your muscles to run or fight.
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  Speaker 2: But Tad's prefrontal cortex, the logical part, realized that any
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  Speaker 2: movement meant instant execution.
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  Speaker 1: It makes me think of, like, when your phone is
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  Speaker 1: at 1% battery and you need it for an emergency call,
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  Speaker 1: you don't open Instagram. You close every single background app,
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  Speaker 1: turn the brightness to zero, shut off Wi-Fi. You allocate
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  Speaker 1: every tiny drop of power to that one essential function.
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  Speaker 2: That's a perfect analogy. Tad engaged in extreme physiological compartmentalization.
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  Speaker 2: He shut down the background apps of pain reception. He
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  Speaker 2: consciously engaged his parasympathetic nervous system to slow his own
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  Speaker 2: heart rate down bradycardia. He reduced himself to suspended animation.
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  Speaker 1: So he lies there, totally motionless, while Clark and the
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  Speaker 1: girlfriend are just hanging out in the house. Finally, the
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  Speaker 1: girlfriend leaves. And the second the door shuts, Clark walks
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  Speaker 1: into the living room, looks down, and realizes Tad is
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  Speaker 1: in a different spot.
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  Speaker 2: And Clark explodes because his illusion of control is broken.
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  Speaker 1: He grabs Tad, drags him across the floor, shoves him
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  Speaker 1: into a tiny wooden hallway closet, and locks it from
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  Speaker 1: the outside. Tad is in total darkness now. He can
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  Speaker 1: feel himself going into hypovolemic shock from the blood loss.
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  Speaker 1: He knows his organs are going to shut down in
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  Speaker 1: maybe an hour.
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  Speaker 2: But he still doesn't give up. He starts feeling around
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  Speaker 2: the dark closet with his hands.
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  Speaker 1: And he finds a heavy, solid wood electric guitar. He
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  Speaker 1: lies on his back, grabs the neck of the guitar,
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  Speaker 1: and uses the body of it like a battering ram
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  Speaker 1: against the closet door. He just swings it over and over,
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  Speaker 1: fighting through the exhaustion, until the wood finally splinters.
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  Speaker 2: He literally punches a hole through the door.
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  Speaker 1: Reaches his arm through the hole, flips the latch, and
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  Speaker 1: pushes the door open. He drags himself back into the kitchen,
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  Speaker 1: and he sees the wall-mounted phone. It's mounted way up high,
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  Speaker 1: totally out of reach.
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  Speaker 2: Right, he's on the floor.
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  Speaker 1: But it has one of those long, coiled cords. Tad
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  Speaker 1: reaches up, grabs the cord, and yanks with all his
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  Speaker 1: body weight. The handset crashes to the floor. But there's
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  Speaker 1: a huge problem. The dial pad isn't on the handset.
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  Speaker 1: It's on the base unit, which has also fallen to
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  Speaker 1: the floor just out of reach.
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  Speaker 2: And his fine motor skills have to be failing by now.
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  Speaker 1: With trembling, blood-covered fingers, he reaches out and manages to
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  Speaker 1: punch three digits on the base pad. 911. When the
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  Speaker 1: dispatcher answers, they probably expect someone screaming. But Tad's voice
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  Speaker 1: is chillingly calm.
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  Speaker 2: Top-down regulation is still holding strong.
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  Speaker 1: He gives them the exact address, says his legs have
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  Speaker 1: been broken, and asks for an ambulance. Minutes later, police
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  Speaker 1: kick the front door in, weapons drawn. They find Tad,
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  Speaker 1: and these veteran cops are just stunned. It looks like
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  Speaker 1: an industrial accident, and this kid engineered his own rescue.
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  Speaker 2: Paramedics told him later that if he had been in
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  Speaker 2: that closet for two more hours, he would have bled
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  Speaker 2: to death internally.
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  Speaker 1: He barely made it. But the craziest part happens at
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  Speaker 1: the hospital. Tad is on IVs, heavily medicated, recovering from surgery.
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  Speaker 1: The detectives come in to get his statement, and Tad
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  Speaker 1: looks at them and says, I am not the only one.
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  Speaker 1: He did this before.
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  Speaker 2: Because he remembered Clark muttering that name.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Tad knew the name started with an S. So
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  Speaker 1: he and his dad literally sit in the hospital bed
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  Speaker 1: with the Baraboo Yellow Pages, scanning every single last name
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  Speaker 1: starting with S. And Tad's finger stops on Steiner. Chris Steiner.
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  Speaker 2: The boy who drowned a year ago. The detectives must
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  Speaker 2: have been floored.
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  Speaker 1: They arrest Clark immediately. And based on Tad's incredibly specific
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  Speaker 1: description of the backward leg twisting, they exhume Christian Steiner's body.
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  Speaker 2: And the forensic anthropologists compare the x-rays.
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  Speaker 1: They're identical. Same torsional force, same spiral fractures. So they
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  Speaker 1: charge Clark with murder. But the defense attorneys look at
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  Speaker 1: this and realize their only move is an insanity plea.
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  Speaker 2: Which is really hard to prove. You have to prove
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  Speaker 2: the defendant had a mental defect so severe they didn't
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  Speaker 2: know what they were doing or didn't know it was wrong.
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  Speaker 1: They try to claim Clark had dissociative amnesia. Like a
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  Speaker 1: violent alternate personality took over and he blacked out. They
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  Speaker 1: even tried to say Tad broke his own legs in
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  Speaker 1: a panic, which is just insane.
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  Speaker 2: To beat that, the prosecution has to prove men's a
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  Speaker 2: culpable state of mind. Premeditation.
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  Speaker 1: And they did. During a search of Clark's room, they
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  Speaker 1: found a dirty spiral notebook. Inside were three handwritten lists
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  Speaker 1: where Clark had meticulously categorized and profiled children in bear abuse.
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  Speaker 2: He was tracking their routines and ranking their vulnerabilities.
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  Speaker 1: You can't claim a blackout when you're writing detailed reconnaissance
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  Speaker 1: on victims. He was hunting. The jury convicted him fast.
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  Speaker 1: And he got life in prison.
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  Speaker 2: Tad's survival is just an unbelievable testament to human willpower.
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  Speaker 2: He battered his way out of a physical trap and
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  Speaker 2: dragged the truth with him.
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  Speaker 1: But Tad had a huge advantage that most victims don't.
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  Speaker 1: He lived. He could take the stand and point his finger.
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  Speaker 2: Which brings us to the second barrier. What happens when
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  Speaker 2: the victim is silenced? Right.
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  Speaker 1: What happens when the justice system, the thing that's supposed
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  Speaker 1: to protect us, looks at a mountain of evidence, shrugs,
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  Speaker 1: and literally holds the door open for a killer to
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  Speaker 1: walk away? We're moving to the year 2019 now, to Delicious,
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  Speaker 1: a city in Chihuahua, Mexico.
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  Speaker 2: This is Salma Yahara's story. She's a 22-year-old law student,
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  Speaker 2: and her motivation here is key. She wasn't trying to
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: be a corporate lawyer. She specifically wanted to advocate against
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: gender-based violence.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: She wanted to protect women from the exact crimes that
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: were on the rise in her area. She was super
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: close to her mom, Soledad, and her sister, Karen. Very empathetic,
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: acted in local theater. But behind all that, she was
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: in this deeply toxic relationship.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: She was engaged to a 25-year-old guy named Kevin Walberto Pelcaster.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: He was a professional chef. And this relationship was a
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: textbook case of escalating coercive control.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it started with jealousy, isolating her from her family,
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: demanding to see her phone. And then it escalated to
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: physical assault. In April of 2019, he beat her so badly,
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: a family member had to physically pull him off her.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: That's the breaking point.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Salma knew it was lethal. She called off the engagement
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: and tried to cut ties. But extracting from an abuser is, staphistically,
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: the most dangerous time for a victim.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: The risk of retaliatory violence goes through the roof because
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: the abuser loses control. Kevin refused to let it go.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: He stalked her, showed up at her school, relentlessly messaged
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: her demanding closure.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Which all leads to May 31, 2019. Salma finishes her
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: evening classes and finally caves to the pressure. She agrees
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: to meet Kevin publicly just to get him to stop.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: A friend walks her to the Museum of Paleontology in
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: the center of town.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: Very public, very visible.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Kevin's truck is parked nearby, but he's still inside his work.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Salma tells her friend she's fine and to go home.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: The friend leaves. And that is the absolute last time
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: anyone sees Salma alive.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: When she doesn't come home, her mom and sister know
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: instantly that this is an emergency. They don't wait 24 hours.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: They immediately start a massive social media campaign.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: They flood the internet with flyers. And they are super specific.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: They don't just say she's 5'4. They list her exact tattoos,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: a crescent moon scar on her eyebrow, three hearts on
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: her abdomen, and musical notes on her wrist.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: Her sister Karen even writes a public letter to the
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: kidnapper just begging for Selma's life. It's heartbreaking.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: But a week later, on June 7th, they get the
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: worst news possible. A body is found near a rural
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: irrigation canal outside the city. But the condition of the
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: remains is so horrifying... that visual ID is completely impossible.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: The killer used really sophisticated forensic countermeasures. This wasn't a
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: crime of passion where someone panics and runs. They spent
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: a massive amount of time dismantling her body to make
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: sure she could never be identified.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: They severed the hands to remove fingerprints. But worse, they
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: actively flayed the skin specifically where Salma's tattoos were located.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: The hearts, the musical notes, they surgically excised them.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: And they removed the ribcage. Doing that requires specialized tools
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: and physiological knowledge. You can't do that cleanly with a
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: pocket knife. You need an understanding of joint articulation and
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: bone structure. You need the skills of a butcher.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Or a professional chef.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: The police get a DNA sample from Salma's mom to
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: test against the remains, but while they wait for the results,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: they zero right in on Kevin. He has the motive,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: the history of severe violence, he was the last person
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: scheduled to see her, and his profession gives him the
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: exact knife skills used in the mutilations.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: So on June 14th, state police arrest Kevin. They bring
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: him before Judge Alejandro Carrasco-Barunda for a preliminary hearing.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: And the prosecution lays it all out. They have the
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: friend's testimony, the domestic abuse records, and CCTV footage from
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: near the museum showing a truck that looked exactly like
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Kevin's waiting in the area.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: It seems pretty solid for a preliminary hearing. But the
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: defense attorneys just systematically attack it. They argue the CCTV
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: footage is low-res, black and white, shot at night, you
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: can't read the plates or see the driver.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Then Kevin takes the stand and tells this completely wild story.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: He says he did meet Salma, found her asleep in
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: his truck, woke her up, and then suddenly some random
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: guy jumped out of the shadows, punched Kevin in the
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: face and dragged Selma away.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Which is an absurd alternate narrative. But a story in
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: court needs corroboration, and this is where the defense plays
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: their trump card. They put Kevin's grandmother on the stand.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: And she gives a sworn alibi. She says Kevin got
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: home exactly at 12.15 a.m., took a shower, left to
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: see a friend, came right back because he forgot his wallet,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: and coincidentally, right when he walked in, A plumbing pipe
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: burst in the bathroom, so he had to stay and
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: fix the flood and finally left again at 1230 a.m.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: And the friend he met also gives a sworn statement
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: backing up the timeline.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Okay, wait, I have to ask. Okay. Because I just
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: don't understand the mechanics here. How does a judge look
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: at a guy who cuts meat for a living, who
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: beats women, who admits he was at the scene, and
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: whose alibi relies on a magically bursting water pipe backed
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: up by his own grandma and just let him go?
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: How does the law justify that?
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: It's infuriating, but it ties into Mexico's judicial reform. The
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: new accusatory penal system, the NSJP, heavily emphasizes the presumption
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: of innocence. This was a control of detention hearing. The
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: judge isn't deciding if he's guilty of murder. He's deciding
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: if the prosecution has enough direct evidence to hold him
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: in jail before a trial.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: So the circumstantial stuff just wasn't enough for the judge.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Right. The judge waited out. Grainy video. A history of violence,
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: but no proof he did this specific crime. No murder weapon.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: No DNA tying him to the scene yet versus a
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: sworn corroborated alibi. The legal threshold to hold him wasn't met.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: So Judge Berinda rules that Salma probably went with him voluntarily,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: dismisses the forced disappearance charge and lets Kevin walk.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: And the absolute second that release order is signed, Kevin bolts.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: He flees delicious entirely.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Which just guts Salma's family. And shortly after he runs,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: the DNA results come back. The body in the canal
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: is Salma.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: So the legal system just totally slammed the door in
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: their faces. In a lot of cases, this is where
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: it ends. But Salma's sister and mom just refused to
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: accept it. They realized the courtroom is closed, so they
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: take it to the court of public opinion.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: They start this master class in digital advocacy. Karen creates
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: the Red de Justicia para Salma, the justice network for Salma.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: They know bureaucracies only move when they are under intense
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: external pressure.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: They don't just post pictures of her. They weaponize the facts.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: They plaster Kevin's face everywhere. And they make sure everyone
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: in the state knows that the prime suspect is a
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: professional meat cutter, linking it directly to the mutilation.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: They crowdsourced the investigation. They made his face and the
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: case algorithmically viral. It became politically radioactive. Local politicians couldn't
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: just sweep it away anymore.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: They also teamed up with Norma Ledesma, this highly respected
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: human rights activist, and took a petition all the way
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: to the state Supreme Court to review the judge's decision.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: And this intense pressure actually flushes Kevin out. He feels
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: the heat and he makes a really arrogant mistake. He
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: logs onto social media to defend himself.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: It's wild to read. He uses Darvaux, right? Deny, attack,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: reverse victim and offender.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Exactly. It's a classic narcissistic defense mechanism.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: He writes these long posts claiming he is the real
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: victim of a smear campaign, complaining about how unfair his
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: life is now. He formally thanks the judge for recognizing
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: his innocence. Then he accuses the prosecutors of hiding a
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: secret HD video that would prove his phantom kidnapper story.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: But the worst part is the character assassination. He tries
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: to destroy Salma's reputation, claiming she was a bad woman
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: having affairs with older married men. He's trying to control
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: how the public remembers her, which is just coercive control
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: extending beyond the grave.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: But no one buys it. And the family doesn't take
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: the bait. They don't argue with him online. They stay
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: focused on forcing the justice system to reexamine the evidence.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: And in March of 2020, nearly a year later, the
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: public outcry forces the state prosecutor to reopen it.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: They send a specialized forensic team to do a second,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: much more rigorous raid on Kevin's house. They aren't looking
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: for big clues. They're looking for microscopic errors.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: They find a hidden cache of knives and axes that
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: got missed the first time. But the real breakthrough is biological.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: They find women's underwear, a tampon. and crucially microscopic traces
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: of human adipose tissue, fat tissue.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Which is incredibly hard to clean up.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Right, because even if he bleached the place, fat leaves
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: a lipid residue on porous surfaces.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Exactly, and it contains viable DNA. The lab sequences it,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: and it's a flawless match to Salma.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: It's the direct physical link the judge demanded. In June
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: of 2020, they track Kevin down, arrest him, and charge
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: him with aggravated femicide.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: The family proved that when the system fails... Collective advocacy
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: can generate enough kinetic energy to force the machinery to restart.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: They broke down that second door. But what happens when
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: there is no suspect to direct that pressure at? What
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: happens when the killer leaves no name, no face, and
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: the case freezes for over a decade? This brings us
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: to the third barrier, time itself.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: For this one, we go to Arlington, Texas, in 2012.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: The victim is 32-year-old Iresima Chavez Sanchez. She moved to
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Texas from Nuevo Leon, Mexico, to build an independent life.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: And she was doing great. She was quiet, kind, really
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: close to her family, especially her sister and teenage niece
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: who live nearby.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: But on January 20, 2012, her sister and niece show
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: up at her apartment for a visit. The front door
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: is unlocked. They walk in and it's just a scene
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: of absolute incomprehensible carnage.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: The reports describe the apartment as just saturated with blood.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Eurysm is dead in the kitchen.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: And when homicide detectives get there, they find all these
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: profound contradictions in the evidence. First, the medical examiner says
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: she suffered over 100 individual stab wounds.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Over 100.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. In behavioral analysis, that is called overkill. It's almost
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: never a random burglary gone wrong. Stabbing someone 100 times
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: requires immense physical stamina and deeply emotional rage. It means
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: the killer wanted to obliterate her, which usually points to
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: a close, intimate relationship.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: But the apartment looks staged. There's no forced entry. Irisama
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: unlocked the door and let this person in. No defensive
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: wounds to suggest she was surprised by a stranger. But
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: the killer stole a massive, bulky, flat-screen TV from the
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: bedroom to make it look like a robbery.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Which makes no sense. Real burglars steal small, high-value things
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: like jewelry or laptops. Hauling a heavy TV out of
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: a blood-soaked room is just misdirection.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: And they also entirely disconnected and stole the hard drive
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: for the apartment's surveillance system.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Which shows terrifying cognitive clarity. To be in that much
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: of an emotional frenzy and then calmly locate and remove
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: the digital recording devices, they knew exactly what they were doing.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: But they made one mistake. The crime scene techs find small,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: bloody shoe prints leading out. And then right where the
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: stolen TV used to sit on the wooden furniture, they
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: find a single microscopic drop of blood.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: One solitary drop in a room full of thousands. But
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: this one is different. It's isolated and it's fresh. It's
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: still wet and bright red.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: They swab it. rush it to the lab, and find
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: out two things. It's not Irasima's, and it yields a
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: full DNA profile of an unknown female.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: They also find an exterior security camera that points at
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Irasima's door. The footage from the night before shows someone
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: in really baggy clothes, a huge hoodie, and a baseball
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: cap walking up to the door. Irasima lets them in.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Ten minutes later, the camera goes black because the killer
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: cut the main power line from inside.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: So they have the DNA... the video timeline, and the
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: profile of a female acquaintance. They run the DNA through CODIS,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: the national database, and zero hits.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: The killer has no criminal record.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: They start swabbing everyone in Aracema's life. Exes, friends, co-workers.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Every single one is negative. The case hits a concrete
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: wall and goes cold for four years.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: In 2016, Arlington PD tries a new tech called DNA phenotyping.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Which is different from the regular CODIS check, right?
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Very different. CODIS uses STRs, which are like a social
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: security number. It's just a string of numbers that's only
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: useful if the person is already in your filing cabinet.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Phenotyping analyzes SNPs, which are the genetic instructions that dictate
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: how you look. They feed the SNPs into an algorithm
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: and generate a biological mugshot predicting eye color, hair color,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: and ancestry.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: So they get this report back saying the suspect is
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: a Hispanic female with brown eyes and dark hair, along
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: with a sketch. They release it. but it doesn't lead
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: to a name. The case stalls again for another eight years.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Until 2024. Twelve years after the murder, the detectives deploy
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Investigative Genetic Genealogy, or IGG, with the FBI.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: For anyone who doesn't know how IGG works, think of
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: it like this. Imagine you need to find a stranger's
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: house in a massive city, but you don't know their
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: name or street. CODIS is like looking in a phone book.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: If they aren't there, you lose. IGG is like knocking
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: on a random door and finding the stranger's third cousin.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: You ask, what state do they live in? You go
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: to that state, find a second cousin, ask what city?
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: You find a first cousin, ask what street? You trace
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: the family tree until you're literally standing on the killer's
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: front porch.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: That's exactly it. The FBI uploads the DNA profile to
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: public genealogy databases like GEDmatch, where people opt in to
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: find relatives. They get a partial match to a distant relative.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Then genealogists spend hundreds of hours digging through birth certificates, obituaries,
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: and marriage licenses, building this sprawling family tree backward.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Finally, in April of 2026, 14 years later, the FBI
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: hands Arlington police a name. Mayera Velazquez. She's 42 years old.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: And when they look her up, it's mind-blowing.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: She wasn't a stranger. She was from the exact same
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: hometown in Mexico as Irasima. They were exceptionally close friends.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: She lived just a short drive away.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: It perfectly fits the profile. Irasima opened the door because
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: it was her best friend. The overkill makes sense because
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: it was a deeply personal grievance. But the police can't
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: arrest her just based on a family tree. They need
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: her actual current DNA to match the blood drop.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: So they set up a covert surveillance operation. Undercover hops
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: follow Mayera to a restaurant, wait for her to finish eating.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: And the second she throws her trash away and leaves,
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: they dig a plastic fork out of the garbage.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: They extract her saliva DNA from the plastic tines, run it,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: and it's a flawless, undeniable match to the blood drop
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: from 14 years ago.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: They arrest her on July 16th, 2026 for capital murder.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: And learning about her life over those 14 years is
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: just an insane lesson in psychological compartmentalization.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: If she did this, she brutally murdered her best friend,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: stabbed her a hundred times, and then just walked back
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: into her life and shut the door on it. She
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: was a successful real estate agent, raised a family, took
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: international vacations to Paris and Dubai.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: And she even posted a social media tribute mourning Erasima's
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: death in 2012. The lack of empathy required to publicly
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: perform grief for a friend you butchered is almost sociopathic.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Now, we have to be impartial here because Mayera has
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: pleaded not guilty. And her defense attorney's argument actually sounds
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: really plausible at first. They call the evidence friendship DNA.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: You're saying if they were best friends who hung out
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: at that apartment all the time, of course you'd find
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: her DNA there. They argue that one microscopic drop of
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: blood could just be from a paper cut Mayera got
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: while visiting for coffee a week before the murder.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: It's a smart defense. In a vacuum, a friend's DNA
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: at the scene is totally normal. But the paper cut
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: theory ignores the biochemical reality of blood desiccation.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: How wet the blood was.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Exactly. When blood leaves the body, it dries out and
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: turns brown in a matter of hours. The crime scene
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: techs arrived 10 hours after the murder, and they explicitly
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: documented that the single drop of blood on the TV
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: stand was still wet, shiny, and bright red.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Which means it's physically impossible for it to have been
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: there for a week.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: It was deposited at the exact time of the murder,
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: right where the killer stood to unplug the TV.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: The defense also points out that it's crazy to think
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: someone could stab a person a hundred times in a
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: frenzy and only leave one tiny drop of their own
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: blood behind.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Which is a great question for a juror. But the
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: prosecution will likely say the heavy, baggy clothes she was
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: wearing protected her from cutting herself worse, and the drop
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: was just a minor slip of the knife.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: The defense also claims the person in the CCTV video
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: walks like a man with broad shoulders. They even pointed
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: the finger at Mayera's husband, Robinson, saying he was super
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: jealous of the women's friendship and the cops just got
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: tunnel vision in 2012.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: As of right now, Mayera is out on a $ 45, 000
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: bond awaiting trial. If convicted in Texas, she faces life
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: without parole or the death penalty. A jury will have
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: to decide if a wet drop of blood and a
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: plastic fork are enough to overcome her presumption of innocence.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: It's just a staggering end to a 14-year mystery. And
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  Speaker 1: when we look at all three of these stories, this
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: profound synthesis really emerges. We talked about three totally impenetrable barriers.
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  Speaker 1: A soundproof room, a judge's gavel, and 14 passing years.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: But the common denominator is how incredibly stubborn the truth is.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: It doesn't just evaporate because the killer is clever or
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: the system fails. It anchors itself to the physical world.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: The truth waited in that dark closet while a 13-year-old
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: kid slowed his own heart rate to survive long enough
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  Speaker 1: to throw himself down a staircase.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: It waited in the algorithms of social media, harnessed by
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: a sister who weaponized public outrage to reveal the microscopic
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: cells a killer thought he washed away.
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  Speaker 1: And it waited in the cellular code of a plastic fork,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: letting a genealogist bridge a 14-year gap of silence. In
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  Speaker 1: a world full of digital noise where facts feel so
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  Speaker 1: easily buried... These cases prove that details matter. A dirty notebook,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: a culinary skill, a wet drop of blood. Nothing is
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  Speaker 1: truly erased if someone is willing to look closely enough.
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  Speaker 2: Justice really isn't a passive thing. It takes relentless patience
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: and an absolute refusal to accept a closed door.
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  Speaker 1: Definitely. And before we end this deep dive, I want
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: to leave you with one final kind of unsettling thought
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: about Aracema's case. We spend so much time and money
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: worrying about the stranger in the dark alley. We buy deadbolts.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: We install cameras. We fear the unknown threat. But Arasama
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: didn't have her door kicked in. She looked through the people,
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  Speaker 1: recognized the face, and then unlocked the door herself. It
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: forces you to ask a really terrifying question. If the
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  Speaker 1: person who knows you best is also the person who
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: intimately knows exactly where your blind spots are, how well
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: do you really know the people you invite into your home?