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DIDDY WHAT?: COURT Hearing OVER IN JUST SECONDS 1 Week After Verdict, DEFENSE "DIDDY IMAGE MAKEOVER · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. I'm Nancy Grace. This is
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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us. Joining us
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  Speaker 1: now Tasa Taels from Tasa Tales on YouTube. Tasa what happened?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So like Diddy's team has done the whole trial.
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  Speaker 1: Hurry, hurry, hurry, hurry, hurry, so they can wait.
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  Speaker 3: We were all ready for it.
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  Speaker 1: There was a letture they.
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  Speaker 4: Sent saying they wanted it moved up to September twenty second.
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  Speaker 5: We were waiting for a legal showdown in the court.
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  Speaker 1: It was all done teleconference.
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  Speaker 6: It was all done teleconference.
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  Speaker 2: And what's more, Diddy's team agreed to the October third,
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  Speaker 2: but they will report early.
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  Speaker 1: If anything.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody in the courtroom collectively rolled their eyes. Again they
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  Speaker 2: were in the overflow room. They did not let anybody
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  Speaker 2: into the courtroom.
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  Speaker 7: Everybody collectively rolled their eyes because.
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  Speaker 2: At the end of the day, this is more finagling
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  Speaker 2: and it actually angered a lot of people even when
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  Speaker 2: they heard that news. Why, because you have to look
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  Speaker 2: at it. Didny's team at least I believe they won
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  Speaker 2: on technicalities. They won on a trial by ambush.
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  Speaker 1: And it looks like for this pre.
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  Speaker 2: Sensitive presentencing report where there's going to be a lot
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  Speaker 2: of character witnesses, a lot of character letters wrote to
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  Speaker 2: the judge, good and bad.
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  Speaker 4: They're once again trying to run the clock off and win.
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  Speaker 2: By a technicality.
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  Speaker 8: The general public wasn't allowed in the main courtroom again.
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  Speaker 2: This was all done looked like by a secure zoom call.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, we could have literally just phoned this in, but
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  Speaker 3: you know the Senatorship New York, they.
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  Speaker 9: Don't like anything tape and you're not allowed to get
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  Speaker 9: into the live feed I guess unless you're one of
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  Speaker 9: the parties joining.
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  Speaker 2: However, they weren't generous enough to let everybody go into
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  Speaker 2: the overflow room.
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  Speaker 3: That is when they put the zoom call on the
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  Speaker 3: big feed again.
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  Speaker 6: Mark Agnifilio's comedy show was in.
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  Speaker 1: Full effect again.
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  Speaker 3: When the screens came on, Mark Agnafilia was like, Sean,
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  Speaker 3: is that jew trying to.
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  Speaker 1: Be funny again?
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  Speaker 7: What aren't you performing for?
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  Speaker 6: I guess he's performing for his public.
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  Speaker 1: He said this was the best clothing he ever did.
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  Speaker 3: He is still on a high. He literally said, Sean,
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  Speaker 3: is that jew did? He said, yeah, where are you?
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  Speaker 1: He said, oh, I'm in my office.
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  Speaker 3: Again.
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  Speaker 2: They could have done this off camera but they wanted
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  Speaker 2: everybody to get into the flow.
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  Speaker 3: They asked, is the government on the government was very dry. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: we're here.
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  Speaker 6: I guess they're still looking their wounds.
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  Speaker 7: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, the deputy said, beyond
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  Speaker 2: the letter, is there anything else? Both parties said no,
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  Speaker 2: and they said okay. Meetings adjourned again. When I tell
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  Speaker 2: you it was a nothing burger. Everybody was on the
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  Speaker 2: edge of their seats waiting for something. When it came
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  Speaker 2: to being a nothing burger, it was a giant nothing burger.
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  Speaker 2: And then of course they released the letter to the public.
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  Speaker 2: So we lie of weight to see whatever tricks.
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  Speaker 6: Did He's team, and we're sure they have them have
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  Speaker 6: up their sleeves to make sure that did he even
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  Speaker 6: with those two sex crime convictions, is not held about
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  Speaker 6: a held accountable for what he's done.
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  Speaker 1: Philip Dubay, veteran defense attorney, way in, is this what
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  Speaker 1: you expected?
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  Speaker 7: Absolutely? Are you kidding?
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  Speaker 10: First of all, we're in the dead of summer and
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  Speaker 10: most attorneys court staff have vacation plans ready to go,
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  Speaker 10: and to suggest that they need all this extra time
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  Speaker 10: to prepare and to get witnesses into court is actually
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  Speaker 10: quite laughable, and we use it oftentimes just to placate
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  Speaker 10: the client. You know, patience is bitter, but it's fruit
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  Speaker 10: is sweet. We're going to get you a great sentence,
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  Speaker 10: We're going to get you a great outcome. But the
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  Speaker 10: truth is these attorneys are probably thinking about their prepaid
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  Speaker 10: all inclusive resort getaways that they had scheduled way ahead
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  Speaker 10: of time. The last thing that they need is for
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  Speaker 10: a sentencing hearing to get in the way of that
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  Speaker 10: where they have to reschedule, suffer cancelation fees, and lord
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  Speaker 10: knows what else. So my hunches they need more time
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  Speaker 10: because they want to get out of dodge joining us.
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  Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall renounced likeo analyst out of the La jurisdiction.
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  Speaker 1: You can see her on Peacock and she is the
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  Speaker 1: author of deal Breakers on Amazon. You can find her
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  Speaker 1: online at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Doctor Bethany Marshall,
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  Speaker 1: what do you make of it?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I do think it's much to do about nothing.
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  Speaker 5: I think that when people have nothing to say, they
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  Speaker 5: keep shuffling the shells around, right, and this just seems
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  Speaker 5: like a big shuffle. What I'm really worried about, Right,
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  Speaker 5: now is after the sentencing. If it's too short, what
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  Speaker 5: is going to happen with all of the victims. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: are the victims even being held in mind? I'm not
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  Speaker 5: talking about sex trafficked victims from all over the world.
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 5: Cassie Ventura, Mia Jane, all these women who are so
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  Speaker 5: brave to go out on the stand and to really
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  Speaker 5: tell their truth, risk shame, risk humiliation. And now the
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  Speaker 5: Agnifholo is just doing a big shell game, trying to
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  Speaker 5: sort of he's tap dancing, trying to look like he's busier.
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  Speaker 3: Than he really is.
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  Speaker 5: I think actually that the die is cast. I think
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  Speaker 5: Sebradium has a pretty good idea of what's going on.
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  Speaker 5: I think he's going to give him the maximum. I
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  Speaker 5: do know because I'm married to a judge. Often they
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  Speaker 5: try to.
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  Speaker 1: Split the baby.
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  Speaker 5: Even if they're disappointed after a jury verdict. They may
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  Speaker 5: not like what the jury decided, but they will try
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  Speaker 5: to walk a fine line between what they think is
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  Speaker 5: a fair sentence and what and upholding the opinions of
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  Speaker 5: the jurors the American public. But in this case, there are.
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  Speaker 1: So many victims at risk. That's what worries me.
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  Speaker 5: The most and I'm sure Lynn can talk more about this, but.
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  Speaker 2: P.
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  Speaker 5: Didy is a menace to society. He's a true menace.
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  Speaker 5: The fact that he was holding a freak off the
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  Speaker 5: night that the Feds came for him, what does that
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  Speaker 5: tell you about his future offending behavior. He's not going
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  Speaker 5: to leave prison chased or remorseful or trying to slow
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  Speaker 5: down the party bus. He's going to be even more
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  Speaker 5: galvanized than before. So I just hope this sentencing keeps
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  Speaker 5: society as safe as possible for as long as possible.
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  Speaker 1: Joining me is Lynn Shaw, founder and director of Lynn's Warriors,
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  Speaker 1: dedicated to ending sex trafficking and exploitation of girls and women.
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  Speaker 1: Lynn Shaw. At least the judge sent a message to
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  Speaker 1: the victims, what's your response?
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  Speaker 11: Well, first of all, everybody's hitting the nail on the head,
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  Speaker 11: But I have to ask, where is the standing ovation
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  Speaker 11: for all of these victims that came forward and laid
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  Speaker 11: it out, put their lives on the line. Yes, I'm
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  Speaker 11: going to say put their lives on the line. This
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  Speaker 11: case of one Shawn Colmbs. I refused to call him
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  Speaker 11: dirty Ditty, as I was referring to him for many
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  Speaker 11: weeks because It's not cute at all any more. This
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  Speaker 11: was bigger than just this case. This was something that
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  Speaker 11: all victims and survivors of sexual exploitation abuse, rape crimes.
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  Speaker 11: It kind of infected all of society. We have spent
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  Speaker 11: the exhaustive last couple of weeks unraveling all this, with
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  Speaker 11: victims talking them through everything. But I have to say
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  Speaker 11: again a slap in the face for all victims who
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  Speaker 11: are following along and they're all looking at this and
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  Speaker 11: they're all talking about it. I can ensure that this
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  Speaker 11: is what they're doing, and they're looking at it as
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  Speaker 11: another man of power, wealth over and celebrity over their truths.
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  Speaker 1: And you know what, I.
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  Speaker 11: Think this is just something that they're playing games now,
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  Speaker 11: and that is so insulting. How the lawyer is acting,
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  Speaker 11: you know on the video with Sean Combs making small talk.
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  Speaker 11: It's disgusting. It shouldn't even be allowed. And you know what,
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  Speaker 11: we are all about empowering the victims and survivors. And
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  Speaker 11: we pray that the judge does when this comes around
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  Speaker 11: in October October third, he does the right thing and
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  Speaker 11: gives him the maximum sentence he can give him.
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  Speaker 1: To doctor Dwayne Hendrix, joining US now former Assayciate Award
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  Speaker 1: at the MDC. You can find him at new Dallightfoundation
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  Speaker 1: dot com. Doctor Hendrix, Are you surprised?
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  Speaker 12: So, I'm not surprised mister Combs and his legal team
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  Speaker 12: pivoted from their earlier strategy of an expedited sentence.
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  Speaker 7: I believe after they came.
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  Speaker 12: Down off the euphoria of the verdict last week, they
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  Speaker 12: realized that it was in mister Combs's best interest to
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  Speaker 12: go ahead and go through the pre sentenced investigation. And
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  Speaker 12: I've also believed that if mister Combs fully cooperates with
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  Speaker 12: the pre sentenced investigation and talks about his childhood, especially
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  Speaker 12: accepting responsibility and what brought him to this point in
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  Speaker 12: his life and where he's going to go from here,
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  Speaker 12: it probably will help mitigate the sentence that he's going
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  Speaker 12: to receive in October three. Also, I've also believed if
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  Speaker 12: he received a sentence of less than twenty seven months,
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  Speaker 12: he'll probably serve his time.
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  Speaker 7: At MDC Brooklyn.
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  Speaker 12: And the reason why I say that is because he's
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  Speaker 12: already has a year of jail credit, nearly a year
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  Speaker 12: of jail credit, and then he'll also earn about a
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  Speaker 12: month and a half a good cond of time, and
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  Speaker 12: also he'll be able to serve thirty to ninety days
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  Speaker 12: on own detention if he continues good behavior while he's at.
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  Speaker 1: MDC Brooklyn, Doctor Hendrix, what happens now for Shawn Comes.
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  Speaker 12: He'll remain at MDC Brooklyn until his sentencing on October third,
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  Speaker 12: and during this time he'll try to maintain a low
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  Speaker 12: profile good behavior and also go through the pre sentenced
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  Speaker 12: investigation and probably spend a lot of time visiting with
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  Speaker 12: his family until his sentencing in October.
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  Speaker 1: Doctor Hendrix will Seawan Comes stay where he is now
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  Speaker 1: until sentencing set for October.
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  Speaker 12: So over the last year, in prior to that, MDC
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  Speaker 12: Brooklyn has had a lot of issues and concerns and challenges,
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  Speaker 12: and mister Colmbs made it very clear and his legal
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  Speaker 12: team made it very clear that they didn't want him
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  Speaker 12: house there. However, I find it interesting now that he's
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  Speaker 12: been clear on the major charges and only convicted on
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  Speaker 12: the lesser charges, and now that he's had a standing
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  Speaker 12: ovation when he returned back to the unit. Now I
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  Speaker 12: think that they would rather have him do his time
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  Speaker 12: if he is sentenced more than a year and a
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  Speaker 12: day or time served they would rather have him do
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  Speaker 12: his time at NBC Brooklyn and not anywhere else across
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  Speaker 12: the country. And that way he don't have to go
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  Speaker 12: get on a bus, get on the airlift, where that
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  Speaker 12: black box, Martin chain, and leg irons. So I would
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  Speaker 12: say because of the decreased population, better leadership at the institution,
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  Speaker 12: the challenges have subsided at NDC Brooklyn.
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  Speaker 1: Debate way in.
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  Speaker 10: Well, first of all, it wasn't so expedited. If I recall,
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  Speaker 10: the initial report was going to be a win September fifteenth,
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  Speaker 10: you know, so that's what a month and a half away.
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  Speaker 10: Then they wanted the actual sentencing hearing on September the
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  Speaker 10: twenty second. So all they're really doing is moving it
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  Speaker 10: from September twenty second to October third. We're talking about
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  Speaker 10: a couple of weeks here, and the practical reality of
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  Speaker 10: it is it's very hard to coordinate scheduling for every
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  Speaker 10: member of the defense team, and out of fairness to
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  Speaker 10: the prosecution, they have a right to be heard as
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  Speaker 10: to what date would be convenient and work for them
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  Speaker 10: as well, So they probably just decided, look, October third
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  Speaker 10: is good enough. We can get our vacations done, we
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  Speaker 10: can get our memos filed, we can get the oppositions
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  Speaker 10: filed and be heard in its totality, so no harm,
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  Speaker 10: no foul in the end. But really, if you think
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  Speaker 10: about it, just wasted everybody's time by dropping all these
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  Speaker 10: letters to the cord requesting that the court dates get
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  Speaker 10: advanced to a sooner date. But in truth, they're really
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  Speaker 10: thinking about whether or not they're going to have ample
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  Speaker 10: time to have their mind ties at whatever is or
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  Speaker 10: that they already had pre planned. So in the end,
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  Speaker 10: we're really talking about a two week differential.
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  Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall, what do you think, you know.
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  Speaker 5: Nancy, what's very interesting about men who fit a sociopathic
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  Speaker 5: profile is that they have a lot of bravado. They
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  Speaker 5: relate to others on the basis of power. They believe
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  Speaker 5: they're at the center of things until they face very
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  Speaker 5: serious consequences, and then they fall apart. In fact, they
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  Speaker 5: become quite paranoid. I'm thinking about a patient who came
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  Speaker 5: into my office who was committing all kinds of fraud,
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  Speaker 5: and he was sort of a bully with his family and.
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  Speaker 1: With his relatives.
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  Speaker 5: He came into session crying, paranoid, thinking that his phone
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  Speaker 5: was being tapped, but the minute he was acquitted, he
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  Speaker 5: went right back to the bravado again. So if p
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  Speaker 5: did he fits this offending style, I think he was
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  Speaker 5: headed for some kind of a mild breakdown if he
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  Speaker 5: got life in prison. Now, in my eyes, he's kind
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  Speaker 5: of been exonerated. Okay, you know, a transportation to engage
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  Speaker 5: in prostitution. I mean, just the least charge. This is
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  Speaker 5: going to help him gather his psychological resources. He in
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  Speaker 5: his mind, is going to win. He is going to
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  Speaker 5: beat this. He's going to be a good prisoner. He's
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  Speaker 5: going to be out on his best behavior. I really
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  Speaker 5: shudder to think about what happens when he leaves prison,
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  Speaker 5: because men like this become angrier and even more ready
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  Speaker 5: to offend once they're incarcerated. And do you know why, because,
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  Speaker 5: especially if they're sex addicts or their deviant, all they
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  Speaker 5: have is their sex fantasies. They may not have any
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  Speaker 5: as many victims to manipulate. Maybe some of the other prisoners,
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  Speaker 5: but not in the way that you would manipulate like
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  Speaker 5: children and women outside of the prison system. So by
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  Speaker 5: the time they get out, they are mad. And I
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  Speaker 5: think what we need to do is follow P Didty
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  Speaker 5: in the future and make sure that he doesn't become
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  Speaker 5: even more destructive in the way he relates to people
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  Speaker 5: around him.
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  Speaker 1: In the last hours a ruling, Seawan Comes appears before
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  Speaker 1: the judge demanding a bond. Judge says, no way. Wow
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  Speaker 1: makes me think of all the time sa Cassie, Ventura,
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  Speaker 1: Jane and Maya wanted out. But they didn't get out,
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  Speaker 1: did they? They were forced back in the ring to
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  Speaker 1: have sex with male sex workers. Wonder what that feels like?
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  Speaker 1: Think about it? Did he? There's no doubt in my
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  Speaker 1: mind at the moment Shawn Comes would have walked out
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  Speaker 1: of that courthouse, he would be straight on his way
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  Speaker 1: to Teeborough and out of this country. Sidney Sumner, what
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  Speaker 1: exactly happened?
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  Speaker 13: So the hearing lasted all of two minutes total. We
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  Speaker 13: expected the defense to put up a bigger fight to
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  Speaker 13: expedite the sentencing, but they were tracked their claws and
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  Speaker 13: agreed to the October third sentencing date. So that gives
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  Speaker 13: investigators plenty of time for a pre sentencing investigation to
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  Speaker 13: talk to all of the people important to Sean Combe's
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  Speaker 13: important to this case against him, to determine how long
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  Speaker 13: he should spend behind bars now, Judge Tuberbunning and at
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  Speaker 13: some point as that both council come to more of
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  Speaker 13: an agreement on their sentencing recommendations. Right now, it's quite
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  Speaker 13: a stark difference. Defense attorneys are asking for twenty one
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  Speaker 13: to twenty seven months behind bars while while the government
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  Speaker 13: is asking for fifty one to sixty three months. So
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  Speaker 13: we're hovering at a very large gap in between those
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  Speaker 13: two recommendations. So we may see further discussions trying to
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  Speaker 13: minimize the difference in their two requests.
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  Speaker 1: Joining us now. Tasa tels from Tisa Tales on YouTube
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  Speaker 1: Tisa what happened Holy getting a standing ovation? We need
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  Speaker 1: to revisit it.
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  Speaker 9: First of all, Mark Agnofilio is the one that told
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  Speaker 9: us this.
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  Speaker 2: So I think we do actually need a fact checker
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  Speaker 2: because my Agnophilia also stood in front of the judge
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  Speaker 2: and said that Cassie and Diddy were modern day love story.
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  Speaker 8: He also turned in a judge and said that Freakals
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  Speaker 8: was like your partner loving strawberry.
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  Speaker 7: Lemonade and you not liking it.
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  Speaker 3: He also did.
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  Speaker 4: Say that Jane that Diddy might have.
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  Speaker 2: Been provoked with Jane and beating her viciously with self defense.
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  Speaker 8: So again, the only people we have confirming this story
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  Speaker 8: was actually Ditty's lawyer, Mark Agnifhilio.
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  Speaker 7: But even in the.
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  Speaker 2: Standing ovation, I think Diddy's team might be in a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of a kerfuffle. They know, at least I
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  Speaker 2: would guess that between now and sentencing, they need to
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  Speaker 2: look make Diddy.
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  Speaker 3: Look like he is the hope reborn.
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  Speaker 2: I think they're trying to do a lot of feel
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  Speaker 2: good stories, but the fact that that whole standing ovation
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  Speaker 2: story kind of fell flat.
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  Speaker 1: Because at the end of the day, who is copping
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  Speaker 1: for you? People that are beyond hopeless wishing.
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  Speaker 2: They had one iota of your access, of your fame,
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  Speaker 2: of your privilege, of your money so that they could
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  Speaker 2: hire the Dream Team and get out of jail.
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  Speaker 3: Again, when they say that the.
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  Speaker 2: Inmates were clapping for Ditty, I said it once and
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  Speaker 2: I'll say it again.
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  Speaker 4: They arett clapping for the man. They're clapping for the
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  Speaker 4: fantasy that one day they can earn enough, take enough,
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  Speaker 4: steal enough.
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  Speaker 6: However, they get it so that they too cannot be
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  Speaker 6: held accountable for the crimes that they are being accused of.
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  Speaker 2: Again, you gotta wonder, did it actually happen and even
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  Speaker 2: if it did happen, this is not a good thing.
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  Speaker 1: This is not a good thing. It's actually embarrassing.
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, this.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: Is the most support publicly that Ditty's going to be
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: getting for a long while.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: I fully expect for there to be another bond hearing
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: before sentencing.
• 18:00
  Speaker 10: No, I think that they're going to need the full
• 18:02
  Speaker 10: period of time to prepare.
• 18:04
  Speaker 7: I really believe that there.
• 18:06
  Speaker 10: Are scheduling conflicts. You know, it'd be different if there
• 18:09
  Speaker 10: was only one member of the defense team one member
• 18:12
  Speaker 10: of the prosecution. But they are relying now on the
• 18:16
  Speaker 10: input from probation to get reports together, the input from
• 18:20
  Speaker 10: the US Attorney's Office and the entire sort of defense conglomerate,
• 18:25
  Speaker 10: And they've all agreed upon a date and they're going
• 18:27
  Speaker 10: to use that time wisely to get everybody interviewed, marshal
• 18:30
  Speaker 10: their resources, and get prepared for the October third date.
• 18:34
  Speaker 10: They're going to use it as a drop dead date.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: No bond for Sean comes. Did he will sit behind
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: bars and wait for sentencing? But how did we get here?
• 18:45
  Speaker 14: This has worked, this strategy, which was his strategy, not
• 18:49
  Speaker 14: his lawyers, It has worked.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Did he orchestrates everything. If he pulls this off, it
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: will be his own orchestration.
• 18:57
  Speaker 14: If he pulls this off, he will feel invincible, and
• 19:00
  Speaker 14: at the moment he is feeling pretty dumb goodness.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: After a split verdict where Shawn Combs is acquitted of rico,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: two other counts come into play. Shawn comes convicted on
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: two felony counts. There was a massive argument via paper
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: to keep Shawn Combs behind bars, the defense fighting tooth
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: and nail to let him out on appeal bond, which
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: means you get out while your conviction is being appealed.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Joining me right now, Tisa Tales. You can find her
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: on YouTube at Tisa Tales. Tisa start at the beginning, Start.
• 19:43
  Speaker 7: With the verdict, the split.
• 19:47
  Speaker 9: What happened when the jury walked in, everybody was on
• 19:51
  Speaker 9: pins and needles.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie.
• 19:53
  Speaker 9: Everybody in the courtroom expected him to be guiltied on
• 19:58
  Speaker 9: at least the sex trafficking. There was a somber tone
• 20:02
  Speaker 9: they walked in and when they said please read, and
• 20:06
  Speaker 9: they said, what do you find ye on count one?
• 20:10
  Speaker 9: Not guilty? It was a bomb that went off in
• 20:13
  Speaker 9: the courtroom. The public audibly gassed nobody was expecting that
• 20:19
  Speaker 9: there were cheers of joy from Ditty's side. Count two,
• 20:24
  Speaker 9: what say ye not guilty again? Another bombshell went off.
• 20:29
  Speaker 9: People were in utter disbelief. Any even Diddy's most ardent
• 20:33
  Speaker 9: supporters did not expect him to get off on the
• 20:36
  Speaker 9: count of sex trafficking with Cassie. Count three, when they
• 20:40
  Speaker 9: said guilty for transportation of a prostitute, When they said
• 20:45
  Speaker 9: guilty for the man a, that is when Diddy's team
• 20:49
  Speaker 9: actually cheered, Yeah, that's all right, okay, okay, come on,
• 20:53
  Speaker 9: almost like you were.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: Watching a pro football game.
• 20:56
  Speaker 9: When the other ones came in after that, there were
• 20:59
  Speaker 9: jaws on the grind.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: It was unbelievable.
• 21:01
  Speaker 9: People were looking at the jury searching and to how
• 21:05
  Speaker 9: they can get a verdict in this day and age.
• 21:08
  Speaker 9: They heard Cassie's mother, the twenty thousand, they heard Capricorn Clark,
• 21:13
  Speaker 9: they heard about the savage beatings, and it was unbelievable
• 21:17
  Speaker 9: that the only thing they.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: Said was prostitution. And that is because Daniel.
• 21:22
  Speaker 9: Phillips in his testimony actually said, at least I'm guessing
• 21:25
  Speaker 9: that it was because that he got paid to have
• 21:28
  Speaker 9: sex for money.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: It was a travesty. It was an all out circus.
• 21:34
  Speaker 9: Everybody, including myself, are running to safety.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace. I got a question Fortisa
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Tales and everyone's going to want to know this. You're
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: in a car right now. You had to leave the courthouse.
• 21:56
  Speaker 9: Why I had to leave the courthouse because Diddy's supporters
• 22:00
  Speaker 9: were out of control. The first time I ran and
• 22:02
  Speaker 9: dipped my live. Of course I had two armed security guys.
• 22:06
  Speaker 9: Everyone told me the people in the courthouse is like,
• 22:08
  Speaker 9: make sure you have security. There's a lot of weird
• 22:11
  Speaker 9: stuff going on. It wasn't just me, but I'll tell
• 22:14
  Speaker 9: you what I experienced. Diddy support is surrounding me, threatening me,
• 22:18
  Speaker 9: saying that they were going to hurt me.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: It was a serious situation.
• 22:22
  Speaker 15: It got so bad and there was so much chalos
• 22:25
  Speaker 15: of chaos and violence that they actually had to lock
• 22:28
  Speaker 15: the courtroom down and force the Diddy supporters across the street.
• 22:32
  Speaker 9: It was something myself, the news media, mainstream media, new
• 22:37
  Speaker 9: media have never seen in.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: Their lives the level.
• 22:40
  Speaker 9: And again the jurors, I hope to god they know
• 22:46
  Speaker 9: how to sleep at night, because again I'm sure they
• 22:48
  Speaker 9: did their duty. But when all that chast was happening,
• 22:52
  Speaker 9: as I was being threatened and ushered out by armed
• 22:55
  Speaker 9: security people.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: I thought, this is what the jury did.
• 22:59
  Speaker 9: They sent a six no that it is okay to
• 23:01
  Speaker 9: use violence, It's okay to drug people up. It's okay
• 23:06
  Speaker 9: to live a life of debauchery. It's okay to do
• 23:09
  Speaker 9: whatever you want. Because guess what if you work hard
• 23:12
  Speaker 9: enough and you have enough money and enough delusional fans,
• 23:16
  Speaker 9: and you have engrained yourself in culture enough that you
• 23:19
  Speaker 9: can do whatever you want, and twelve of your peers
• 23:23
  Speaker 9: will look the other way.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: Again, this jury was shocking.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Taste of tales. When you say that Shawnkhm's supporters threatened you,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: what were they saying.
• 23:34
  Speaker 9: They were saying, you B, you F and B. We're
• 23:37
  Speaker 9: going to kill you, you F and B. You've worked apparently,
• 23:40
  Speaker 9: I work for the fence. You're a plant. You make
• 23:43
  Speaker 9: this all up because of you. Again, they're not too smart,
• 23:46
  Speaker 9: because of you. That's how this case got started.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: We're gonna treat.
• 23:49
  Speaker 9: You worse than we treated Cassie. Cassie, what we do
• 23:52
  Speaker 9: to you, it's gonna be nothing that they had on Cassie.
• 23:55
  Speaker 9: They were screaming, they were yelling. Some people were saying,
• 23:58
  Speaker 9: apologize the Diddy apologize Diddy, of course, thank goodness.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: We had Lenny and we had Jimmy, two of the
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: best arm guards out there. So the one thing is
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: they and also they started foaming.
• 24:10
  Speaker 9: Like wild dogs because they realized that I was not
• 24:14
  Speaker 9: an unprotected woman, and they realized they could not just
• 24:17
  Speaker 9: do what they felt like, and they started foaming like
• 24:20
  Speaker 9: wild dogs, screaming, their voices cracking in anger that they
• 24:24
  Speaker 9: ricially wanted to rip me apart.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: This is why their hero had been exonerated. Even in
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: the best of.
• 24:31
  Speaker 9: Times, these people that support him, there's something wrong with it.
• 24:35
  Speaker 9: And I gotta tell you, Nancy, it wasn't just me.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: It was not just me.
• 24:40
  Speaker 9: It was anybody that did not have a that didn't
• 24:44
  Speaker 9: have a pro Diddy stamp from the beginning.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: That's who suffered.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Joining me an all star panel that I want to
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: thank Tisa Tales for what she's doing tonight. You know,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Rob Sheeter is joining me.
• 24:58
  Speaker 7: Rob.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: They don't know where to start. This is a blow.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: This is a huge blow to crime victims all over
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: the country, huge blow. The big news is right now,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Sean Combs is going to jail. Okay, he's going to jail.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: I was actually worried that somehow the judge would contrivet
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: the law. And the law is under the Bill Reform
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Act that for these two charges on which he was convicted,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: he has to go to jail. There is no appeal
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: bond period. But I was so concerned that the judge
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: would somehow find a way to let him walk. And
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: all this time, Shooter, we've been hearing. I've got all
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: these letters here. Here's one from deontaey Nash in fear,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: in fear, talking about Combs's long, well documented history of
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: violent retaliatory behavior. They're afraid rob'shter. Guys, Shooter knows comes
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: better than any of us. His longtime publicist no more.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: But now you can find him at his substack robshooter
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: dot substack dot com and Nony but nice podcast. Sheoter.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I got to tell you, it's like a kick in
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: the stomach when that split verdict came down.
• 26:14
  Speaker 14: Yeah, I think everybody was done before. Before I continue, then, Nancy,
• 26:18
  Speaker 14: I just want to send my best to Tisha. What
• 26:20
  Speaker 14: happened to her outside that courthouse. It's horrific, it's wrong,
• 26:24
  Speaker 14: and I'm afraid these people now have been emboldened because
• 26:28
  Speaker 14: their hero, their idol, Diddy looks like he is going
• 26:32
  Speaker 14: to walk free. So this morning when we heard the judgment,
• 26:35
  Speaker 14: I think we were all shell shocked, we were all heartbroken,
• 26:39
  Speaker 14: we all felt like we'd been kicked in the stomach. However,
• 26:42
  Speaker 14: as the day has gone on, we do have to remember, Nancy,
• 26:47
  Speaker 14: that he has been found guilty of two very serious charges.
• 26:52
  Speaker 14: If any other celebrity had been charged with those two charges,
• 26:56
  Speaker 14: those alone and being found guilty, we would be done
• 26:59
  Speaker 14: with them. So the celebration from Team Diddy, the disappointment
• 27:04
  Speaker 14: from people who've been watching this as closely as we have,
• 27:07
  Speaker 14: I think we can take a step back both sides
• 27:10
  Speaker 14: and realize that this is not a good day for Diddy.
• 27:14
  Speaker 14: He is now a federal criminal, is in jail tonight.
• 27:19
  Speaker 14: He's going to remain there until he is sentenced. And
• 27:22
  Speaker 14: so at least takes some solace in that.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: You know, Rob Shooter, I've been getting flooded by crime victims,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: victims from all walks of life that are upset. They
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: don't really sound mad, yet they're devastated, They're sad, they
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: can't believe this has happened. I've been already subjected to
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: a lot of attacks, verbal attacks, and I think what
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Tisa tells has been subjected to already. But I give
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: the credit to the prosecutors for going in there. And
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: I truly believe this was a day of and Goliath,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: and they went in against one of the highest profile
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: personalities in our country, Sean Comes, who many people think
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: that they know and they love him, and for some reason,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: that blinded them, that drowned out everything that three sex
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: attack victims said. And one had the video? What had
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: the video? I just I don't get it. Rob Sheeter,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: give me some insight and to how Sean Comes got
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: a split verdict. But yes, you're right, he is going
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: to jail on two felonies, two felonies. That's a victory
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: that Shawn Comes is going to jail.
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a victory.
• 28:53
  Speaker 14: We have to hadden on for that, Nancaid, because in
• 28:56
  Speaker 14: this moment, in this hour, there's not a lot of hope.
• 28:58
  Speaker 14: Everything so bad. We have let down not just the
• 29:02
  Speaker 14: people in this case, but victims around the world. Did
• 29:07
  Speaker 14: he now will be empowered. This is not the end
• 29:10
  Speaker 14: of the story, Nancy. When he gets out of jail,
• 29:13
  Speaker 14: if he gets out of jail, hiss behavior will not
• 29:18
  Speaker 14: change because he thinks he has gotten away with it. Again,
• 29:23
  Speaker 14: if you enable someone, Nancy, they do not change. So
• 29:26
  Speaker 14: mark my words, Nancy, this is not the end of
• 29:29
  Speaker 14: the did he story. It's the end of a very
• 29:31
  Speaker 14: very sad chapter. And I think we've let a lot
• 29:34
  Speaker 14: of people down. And as far as being concerned about safety,
• 29:37
  Speaker 14: I just broke reporting that Cassie has now increased her security.
• 29:41
  Speaker 14: Cassie in New York, her home now has security increased.
• 29:46
  Speaker 14: And I think a lot of other people, courageous people
• 29:49
  Speaker 14: who came forward assistance, people that worked with Didd He
• 29:53
  Speaker 14: came forward and testified. They're very vulnerable and they are
• 29:57
  Speaker 14: very very scared right now.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace back to Tisa Tails joining us.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: She had to be escorted by armed guards out of
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: the courthouse and leave the scene after she was mobbed
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: by Diddy fans. Explained to me what was happening outside
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: the courthouse. I understand that wasn't split verdict was announced.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: The Diddy followers, the Diddy worshipers, went cray outside the courthouse,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: actually dousing each other with baby oil and chanting.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: They dows Day swarmed the circle. It looked like a
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: mush pit of depravity.
• 30:44
  Speaker 9: They were spraying baby oil on each other, jumping around,
• 30:48
  Speaker 9: feeling fantastic. One woman and a pair of Calvin kleinb
• 30:52
  Speaker 9: Breefe and Egra started jumping up and down, wiggling boy.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: They sat there spraying baby o her and the crowd was.
• 30:59
  Speaker 16: Chanting yay, yay, yay go and hyping them up. It
• 31:03
  Speaker 16: was a monstrous ball of the parody depravity. When I say,
• 31:07
  Speaker 16: I was sickened. When I say, I shook my head.
• 31:11
  Speaker 9: And when I said, these are the peers, These are
• 31:14
  Speaker 9: the jury of the peers. And it makes me wonder
• 31:17
  Speaker 9: as a jury goes home and they look at the television.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: Sets and they see what their decision costs and what
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: was on the line, it makes me wonder how can
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: they sleep at night?
• 31:30
  Speaker 9: It was absolute pandemonia in between the jumping up and
• 31:34
  Speaker 9: down with the baby oil woman willingly baby.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: Oil being squirted on them, and everybody laughing and having a.
• 31:41
  Speaker 9: Time like Christmas had just come with Santa and the
• 31:45
  Speaker 9: twelve perverted Elves.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: What happened after that was even more amazing.
• 31:49
  Speaker 9: Because while that was going on, there were little fires
• 31:53
  Speaker 9: everywhere of these bands of I don't know if they're
• 31:55
  Speaker 9: in cls, if they're idiots, what was going on looking
• 31:58
  Speaker 9: for anybody they had ever saw make anti Didty contest
• 32:03
  Speaker 9: and by anti Diddy?
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: According to film, it is pro justice.
• 32:08
  Speaker 9: They were going out their ways to make sure.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: That everybody paid.
• 32:13
  Speaker 9: And again I said, this is what that jury costs us,
• 32:16
  Speaker 9: and let us know. It sent a message it's okay
• 32:19
  Speaker 9: to be depraved, it's okay to beat women, it's okay
• 32:22
  Speaker 9: to do drugs, it's okay to do whatever you want.
• 32:26
  Speaker 9: And that jury, that jury, when they gave the verdict,
• 32:29
  Speaker 9: signal that. Again I'm still coming to terms with how
• 32:32
  Speaker 9: the jury got to this thing.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: God, this man was denied bail, Thank god.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Rob Sheeter, Is it true that you just published an
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: article that there is going to be a Sean comes
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Diddy women's shelter for abused and beaten women. I guess
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: they could fill the whole thing up.
• 32:54
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Nancy.
• 32:54
  Speaker 14: So last night I hit the phones and thank you
• 32:57
  Speaker 14: for all the support you've been given my substats. And
• 33:00
  Speaker 14: so this morning I posted a story. I spoke to
• 33:02
  Speaker 14: three different did He insiders last night saying what's next?
• 33:06
  Speaker 7: What is he going to do?
• 33:07
  Speaker 14: I've reported about the comeback to it potentially with Kanye West.
• 33:11
  Speaker 14: What else does he plan to do? And all my
• 33:13
  Speaker 14: sources told me that he's going to use this moment
• 33:16
  Speaker 14: as a marketing opportunity. He is shameless. This is a
• 33:20
  Speaker 14: chance for him to bounce back. He thinks to be
• 33:23
  Speaker 14: bigger than ever and I can see him Nancy standing
• 33:26
  Speaker 14: outside a did He women's shelter, cutting the ribbon, saying
• 33:32
  Speaker 14: that he's a protector of women, he loves women. He's
• 33:36
  Speaker 14: going to flip this narrative. There are no concrete plans
• 33:39
  Speaker 14: for this yet, I point out in the story, but
• 33:41
  Speaker 14: it's just one of the options that did He and
• 33:44
  Speaker 14: his team are exploring. How can he bounce back, not
• 33:47
  Speaker 14: just in music, not just in fashion, but how can
• 33:50
  Speaker 14: he get his reputation back. Normally we see celebrities going
• 33:54
  Speaker 14: to rehab, remember that, Nancy, they always go off to
• 33:56
  Speaker 14: reab for a few weeks. I'm told did He's not
• 33:59
  Speaker 14: going to do that, but he's going to open up
• 34:01
  Speaker 14: potentially several different shelters for battered women around around the country.
• 34:07
  Speaker 14: This is something that is seriously Nancy being discussed.
• 34:10
  Speaker 11: Linn Shaw thoughts not going to happen, never going to happen.
• 34:16
  Speaker 11: He and his team can talk all they want, they
• 34:18
  Speaker 11: can spend millions of dollars on strategies, they can go
• 34:21
  Speaker 11: on every show, which I'm sure he will make his
• 34:24
  Speaker 11: you know, comeback tour being paid who knows how much money?
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Protection sure to I'm not.
• 34:30
  Speaker 11: Even calling that because to me, he's dead. So there's
• 34:33
  Speaker 11: no resurrection with this degenerate. Okay, it's never going to happen.
• 34:38
  Speaker 11: If we at the Warriors have to get every warrior
• 34:40
  Speaker 11: we know to go out and stop this, we will
• 34:43
  Speaker 11: do it because you know what we know. He's all
• 34:46
  Speaker 11: you have to think about is that Cassie video. I
• 34:47
  Speaker 11: think the judge, even you know, with no bail, is like, no,
• 34:51
  Speaker 11: the Cassie video in his mind.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: I'm not a mind reader. He is going to fall.
• 34:55
  Speaker 11: I maintain right now, things they may think are looking good.
• 34:59
  Speaker 11: I'm reminded everybody all day, yesterday and today, he's still
• 35:02
  Speaker 11: a convicted criminal. He's still sitting in jail. He's an offender.
• 35:07
  Speaker 11: Offenders don't change their stripes. He will come out eventually
• 35:11
  Speaker 11: and he will reoffend or do something worse. He's not
• 35:14
  Speaker 11: going to change. I maintain these shelters they talk about
• 35:18
  Speaker 11: it's going to be a nice pr stunt. It's not happening,
• 35:22
  Speaker 11: no way in hell under the Warrior's watch.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: We're not allowing this.
• 35:25
  Speaker 17: It's so difficult to reflect on the darkest times in
• 35:30
  Speaker 17: your life.
• 35:31
  Speaker 7: Sometimes you got to do that. I was, I mean,
• 35:38
  Speaker 7: I hit.
• 35:38
  Speaker 17: Rock bottom, but I made no excuses.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: My behavior on that video is inexcusable.
• 35:46
  Speaker 17: I take full responsibility for my ashes in that video.
• 35:51
  Speaker 7: I'm disgusted.
• 35:54
  Speaker 17: I was disgusted then when I did it.
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: I'm disgusting now. I went and I sought out professional help.
• 36:04
  Speaker 17: And to going to therapy. We're going to rehab. Had
• 36:10
  Speaker 17: to ask God for his mercy and grace. I'm so sorry,
• 36:23
  Speaker 17: but I'm committed to be a better managent every day.
• 36:27
  Speaker 7: I'm not asking for forgiveness. I'm truly sorry.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Linn Shaw joining me from Lynn's Warrior. She's the founder
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: and executive director dedicated to ending sex trafficking and abuse
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: on girls and women. Okay, I've heard she asked for it.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: It was her idea, she started it. It was consensual.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: She's a slashed or, as an Agnifilo said in court,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: She's a beautiful woman. She loves sex on and on
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: the same old stereotyped you've always heard, but this is
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: a new one. It was self defense. Sean Commes was
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: acting in self defense when he beat Jane blah blah blah, blah.
• 37:18
  Speaker 11: Blah, the same old playbook. Let's kick it to the curb.
• 37:22
  Speaker 11: First of all, I want to say something, a great
• 37:24
  Speaker 11: shout out to Tisa and to Rob stay safe. I
• 37:27
  Speaker 11: put out a statement on the Warriors about this right away,
• 37:29
  Speaker 11: with the verdict. I've been attacked relentlessly all day and
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  Speaker 11: all night yesterday, and guess what by women women? So
• 37:37
  Speaker 11: what does this say about all of this? So now
• 37:40
  Speaker 11: you have a lawyer, a lawyer who's saying self defense.
• 37:43
  Speaker 11: I've heard this one before, Nancy, anything to blame the victim.
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  Speaker 11: My concern here, though, is society is the justice system
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  Speaker 11: itself not understanding accepting all of this. How come all
• 37:57
  Speaker 11: of those Diddy disciples attacking Tea and others. How come
• 38:01
  Speaker 11: they aren't in this frenzy to support victims, survivors, those
• 38:05
  Speaker 11: who testified. Why is it that there's this power over
• 38:10
  Speaker 11: this criminal, convicted criminal, this monster.
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  Speaker 3: You know what?
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: That playbook is old.
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  Speaker 11: These lawyers can say what they want. My concern here
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  Speaker 11: also is that women are attacking me for putting out
• 38:21
  Speaker 11: what I am saying that he is. He got off
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  Speaker 11: because they didn't prove sex trafficking and I don't know
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  Speaker 11: what I'm doing. Well, you know what, everybody should walk
• 38:30
  Speaker 11: in my boots, come along with me with the warriors,
• 38:32
  Speaker 11: and do the work we do in the communities, and
• 38:35
  Speaker 11: they'll understand real quickly. These jurors, I wish I could
• 38:38
  Speaker 11: have taken all twelve of them on the road with me.
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  Speaker 11: They would have convicted him of sex trafficking right away
• 38:44
  Speaker 11: because they have to see reality and they're blinded by
• 38:46
  Speaker 11: as Rob pointed out and Tisa, this star doest this wealth,
• 38:50
  Speaker 11: this power. But you know what, he's still at the
• 38:53
  Speaker 11: end of the day, a convicted criminal. He still is
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  Speaker 11: in jail. We still have accounts against him, and he
• 39:00
  Speaker 11: will go down, maybe not right away, in the next
• 39:03
  Speaker 11: few years. He's going down joining me.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Troy Slayton, renowned defense attorney, joining us out of the
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  Speaker 1: LA jurisdiction. Troy Slayton, Look, okay, you got a lot
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: of tricks in your magician's bag that you whip out
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: in front of jury's to get those not guilty verdicts
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  Speaker 1: that you seem to get sadly frequently. But Troy Slayton,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: in a case like this, have you ever seen the
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: defense argue self defense that the alleged rapist, the alleged
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: sex trafficker was acting in self defense. I didn't see
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: any pictures of bruises on Seawan Comes. All I saw
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: was him running up and down the halls of the
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: Intercontinental and nothing but a towel. And we now know
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: why he had the towel that he was clutching so desperately,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: because he didn't want this to be seen on the camera.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: That said, have you ever saying self defense used by
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: an alleged rapist or an alleged sex trafficker.
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  Speaker 18: It's the job of the defense attorney, Nancy, to be
• 40:08
  Speaker 18: a zealous advocate for their client and to do everything
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  Speaker 18: that they can within the framework of the law to
• 40:16
  Speaker 18: secure an acquittal or to.
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  Speaker 7: Get the best possible deal.
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  Speaker 18: Now, I'm not going to sit here and gloat just
• 40:23
  Speaker 18: because I got it right all along that the government
• 40:27
  Speaker 18: overcharged this case.
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  Speaker 7: There was not an overreach.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Yes, you would never glow.
• 40:33
  Speaker 7: There was just not the great good.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: He would never say I told you so. Oh quick, update,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: where's Diddy right now? Oh, he's in jail. Okay, continue,
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: but not for much longer.
• 40:46
  Speaker 18: The sentencing guidelines for what is probably going to end
• 40:49
  Speaker 18: up being the most expensive prostitution trial in US history
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  Speaker 18: is fifteen to twenty one months. So although he has
• 40:59
  Speaker 18: what we call maximum exposure of ten years on each count,
• 41:03
  Speaker 18: which if ran consecutively, would be twenty years, he's not
• 41:07
  Speaker 18: going to get that. The starting point for the judge
• 41:10
  Speaker 18: here is fifteen to twenty one months, not years, and
• 41:14
  Speaker 18: he's already got.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Starting points of credit and a nutshell. Unlike state court
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: where I prosecuted in felony superior court, where the judge
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: had great, great leeway and dependent on the state to
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: make a very convincing argument when it came to sentencing,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: in federal court, there's something called the federal guidelines. The
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: sentencing guidelines. Why because federal judges number one, they're appointed
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: for life. They can do whatever they want to, just
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: like the US Supreme Court. Okay, life, in case you
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: didn't know, they're not realigned to You can't get thrown.
• 41:48
  Speaker 7: Out, can't get impeached.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Okay, you named five justices, name one justice? One justice
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: US Supreme Court since it's ever been impeached. Hearing nothing,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: I'll continue forward. The sentencing guidelines are instituted because federal
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: judges across the country had wildly divergent sentences for this
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: same crime, and defense was starting to say, hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: He got five years and you're giving me life. How
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: can that be? So the sentencing guidelines were put in
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: place to kind of corral the federal judges into behaving
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: and having a more consistent sentencing guideline. However, there are
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: an a nutshell, I'm not going to let Troy Slayton
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: give you a legal treatise on this. There are upward
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: and downward departures. And I know a lawyer now disbarred
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: that made a living of getting snitches behind bars to
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: make up stories to help get downward departures. Downward departures
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: are when you present the judge evidence to the defendants
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: faith favor that gets the judge to give a lesser sentence.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: There are also exactly rancy departures.
• 43:06
  Speaker 18: It's called mitigating and aggravating actors. And that's what your
• 43:10
  Speaker 18: attorneys for Dinny are going to do. They're going to
• 43:13
  Speaker 18: say all the great things about him in order to
• 43:17
  Speaker 18: try and get the judge to downward, depart or deviate
• 43:20
  Speaker 18: from the sentencing guidelines. It used to be in this country, Nancy,
• 43:23
  Speaker 18: that the sentencing guidelines were mandatory. The judge was confined
• 43:28
  Speaker 18: to in this case the fifteen to twenty one months,
• 43:31
  Speaker 18: but that's no longer the case. Judge has why discretion
• 43:36
  Speaker 18: to sentence up to the maximum in this space.
• 43:38
  Speaker 7: But it's not going to happen.
• 43:39
  Speaker 18: Diddy is going to be out in a matter of months,
• 43:41
  Speaker 18: not years.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: As we wait for what will no doubt be another
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: bond request, we stop to remember an American hero, Deputy
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Sheriff Frank Bordinaro, Genesee County Sheriffs forty four, killed in
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: the line of duty after nineteen years of service, leaving
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: behind grieving wife now widow. Robin had two sons, Bryce
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: and Chase. American hero Deputy Sheriff Frank Bordinaro. Nancy Grace
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: signing off goodbye friend,