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Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 124 | Tank Bigsby, Brian Thomas Jr., Brenton Strange & More Young Players Developing Late in 2024 Season · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

• 0:17
  Speaker 1: Welcome into Jagsam, I'm Kinanie Stevens, Brian Textan, and John
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: Osier are with me. We're gonna recap game for you
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: from yesterday, the Jaguars facing off against the Jets. We'll
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: start out with our big things. Big thing number one
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: is surprised. Surprise Stop me if you've heard this before,
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: but the Jaguars lost a one score football game in
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: which they had a chance to win. A lot of
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: it coming down to taking field goals over touchdowns.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, like I said, I mean, you want
• 0:41
  Speaker 2: to get to the fourth and have a different result.
• 0:43
  Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, you gotta get
• 0:45
  Speaker 2: there and you gotta put up points, and I can
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  Speaker 2: turn some of those threes into sevens, like I said,
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  Speaker 2: and it's a different game. So I'll learned from it
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  Speaker 2: and thought the guys played well, fought hard, and I
• 0:55
  Speaker 2: really enjoyed playing with this group, and we're gonna figure
• 0:57
  Speaker 2: it out.
• 0:58
  Speaker 3: Brian.
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: A lot of that game is what we've been talking
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: about this season. They play close in these games, they
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: have an opportunity, but then it's either the defense giving
• 1:06
  Speaker 1: up big plays or the offense can't score when they
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: need to, and which I'll both of it.
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  Speaker 4: Yet, well, the offense was moving the ball surprisingly well
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  Speaker 4: early on, which we hadn't seen this year, and the
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  Speaker 4: defense did a nice job. I mean, other than after
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  Speaker 4: the fake punt where Aaron Rodgers drove them down the field,
• 1:21
  Speaker 4: he completed just one pass in the entire first half. So, John,
• 1:26
  Speaker 4: the Jaguars had two red zone opportunities where if you
• 1:30
  Speaker 4: just get touchdowns, maybe you incite the shut it down
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  Speaker 4: button at halftime, but instead Aaron Rodgers figures, well, it's
• 1:37
  Speaker 4: close enough, let's go, and you're just waiting. You just
• 1:40
  Speaker 4: knew that this was going to come down to a
• 1:42
  Speaker 4: fourth quarter game. And he has a long history of
• 1:45
  Speaker 4: winning games at the end, and the Jaguars obviously have
• 1:47
  Speaker 4: a long history, well at least this season, of not
• 1:49
  Speaker 4: winning games at the end. So that was maddening to
• 1:52
  Speaker 4: watch because you knew you had an opportunity, you hadn't
• 1:55
  Speaker 4: take advantage of it because Rodgers would eventually come to life.
• 1:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, most people watching this have I watched the NFL
• 2:01
  Speaker 5: enough to feel what everybody felt at halftime, which is
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  Speaker 5: you had all these opportunities. You had dominated uh time
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  Speaker 5: of possession, yardage, first downs to a point. They hadn't
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  Speaker 5: done all year, and then you look at the scoreboard
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  Speaker 5: and it was what thirteen seven? Uh that when DeVante
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  Speaker 5: Adams and Eric Rodgers on the other side the script
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  Speaker 5: to to call in our video for a couple of
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  Speaker 5: years ago. The script was pretty easy to see yesterday,
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  Speaker 5: and unfortunately it played out it did.
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  Speaker 1: It was pretty well written or second big thing though,
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  Speaker 1: BTJ is the way.
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  Speaker 3: If there was one bright spot.
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  Speaker 1: Yesterday, it was there was a rookie wide receiver. He
• 2:39
  Speaker 1: had two touchdowns, ten catches over a hundred yards receiving,
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  Speaker 1: and he also broke two up the rookie franchise records
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  Speaker 1: only ours.
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  Speaker 4: When I was alright, I was kind of s Uh.
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  Speaker 4: I was super excited cause they called him.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know if I had it or not, so
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  Speaker 2: uh yeah, I was super excited about both of 'em.
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  Speaker 4: Really, I knew when I got the touchdown, Uh.
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  Speaker 3: I was, I broke it, so uh it was just
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  Speaker 3: super exciting for me.
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  Speaker 5: It was.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, it was a great moment.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: At the end of the day, still reform, It'll be
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  Speaker 4: better if.
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  Speaker 1: I got to win.
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  Speaker 3: Didn't get the win, but we get to see a
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  Speaker 3: special player.
• 3:09
  Speaker 1: John and Brian Thomas junior really coming into his own
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  Speaker 1: as well, playing with a backup quarterback and still finding
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  Speaker 1: ways to get the ball and score touchdowns.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's he's good.
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  Speaker 5: He he's Uh, this f franchise has never seen this
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  Speaker 5: in terms of a first round drafted wide receiver who's
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  Speaker 5: more than living up to it.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 5: There's many players at the position in the last five
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  Speaker 5: or six years around the league who you can compare
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  Speaker 5: him to. This team is needed one of those guys,
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  Speaker 5: and uh, they've got it. The shame is he's breaking
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  Speaker 5: out on such a bad team, which a Jaguars are
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  Speaker 5: right now that probably nationally people aren't gonna feel that.
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  Speaker 5: But Brian, he's got You know, there's so many guys.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not gonna say he's gonna be the best receiver
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  Speaker 5: in the league, but he's gonna be elite, and he's
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  Speaker 5: gonna be a guy they can d had on a
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  Speaker 5: building block, all those things. He's one of the two
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  Speaker 5: or three most important players in this team, no doubt.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm gonna leave the BTJ conversation to you guys
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  Speaker 4: because it's been it's been all we've really had to
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  Speaker 4: talk about in recent weeks. I want to just spend
• 4:13
  Speaker 4: a moment on Breton Strange, who we might not otherwise mention.
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  Speaker 4: He caught eleven of twelve balls yesterday, stepping into a
• 4:19
  Speaker 4: critical role because the tight end in this offense is
• 4:22
  Speaker 4: a critical part. We hadn't seen him that way, and
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  Speaker 4: I recall people were disappointed by his rookie season and
• 4:29
  Speaker 4: we said just hold on because the guy shows promise,
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  Speaker 4: and yesterday Brenton Strange delivered on that promise. He has
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  Speaker 4: been a really good football player, whether you're asking him
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  Speaker 4: to block or run a rout and catch a critical
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  Speaker 4: third down. Breton Strange is part of the way around
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  Speaker 4: here too. You talk about BTJ and Tank Bixby, Breton
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  Speaker 4: Strange has moved his name kai into that triumvirate of
• 4:52
  Speaker 4: young offensive weapons.
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  Speaker 1: Another one of the young players that we love to
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  Speaker 1: see developing as this season goes along. Our final big
• 4:58
  Speaker 1: thing is going to be Max World playing one of
• 5:00
  Speaker 1: his best games in Jaguars uniform, but came up not
• 5:03
  Speaker 1: enough at the end of the game when he throws
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  Speaker 1: an interception. But the energy brings out there definitely needed
• 5:08
  Speaker 1: around this time of the year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, I appreciate you know, it's not I
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  Speaker 2: think for me. It kind of ruins it because we
• 5:15
  Speaker 2: didn't win, right, and I'm I'm always about that. But
• 5:18
  Speaker 2: at the same time, I've been very hard on myself
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  Speaker 2: in the past, and my goal is to finish this
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  Speaker 2: year strong and see where it takes us. And I'm bummed.
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  Speaker 2: I'm disappointed because we were in that game and I'm
• 5:28
  Speaker 2: looking at it from a professional standpoint and what can
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  Speaker 2: I do better? And I thought the coaches called a
• 5:34
  Speaker 2: good game and the players executed for the most part.
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  Speaker 2: I just got to make it a couple more plays
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  Speaker 2: and we'll be in a different spot.
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  Speaker 3: Brian.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't win the game, but the energy was different.
• 5:43
  Speaker 1: And I think at this time of the year, because
• 5:44
  Speaker 1: they've lost so many games, it could look like it
• 5:47
  Speaker 1: did against the line every week, with no energy and
• 5:49
  Speaker 1: just flat.
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  Speaker 3: But at least it was entertaining.
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  Speaker 4: He was fun. I mean, Mac is a fun guy.
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  Speaker 4: We know that we watched it in training camp. But
• 5:55
  Speaker 4: yesterday when he was running the ball and spinning off
• 5:58
  Speaker 4: of a defender's attempt to tackle him, or you know,
• 6:00
  Speaker 4: just fighting for the extra yardage and getting up and
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  Speaker 4: smiling and pointing, and I felt like it was his day.
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  Speaker 4: I felt like it was the Jaguars day quite honestly,
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  Speaker 4: as sufficiently John, as they moved the ball. It's just
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  Speaker 4: when they got to the red zone. Your day is three,
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  Speaker 4: not seven. And ultimately everyone's gonna remember that last throw
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  Speaker 4: that was intercepted with still an opportunity to try to
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  Speaker 4: tie the game and say, well he's Mac. Yeah, Well,
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  Speaker 4: for a lot of yesterday, he was a lot of
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  Speaker 4: fun to watch, and this has not been a fun
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  Speaker 4: season for the Jaguars, so I appreciated that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Look, he's I believe has a long career in the NFL.
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  Speaker 5: I think it'll be as a backup. He brings it,
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  Speaker 5: he's a pro. He's fun to watch. I just don't know.
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  Speaker 3: We've all seen.
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  Speaker 5: It to attack defenses downfield.
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  Speaker 4: His arm is not what the great quarterbacks are.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was fun and at the end you throw
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  Speaker 5: the pick and that's fun.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: John likes fun. So do I stay with us.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna go over the highlights for you from yesterday
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  Speaker 1: against the Jets.
• 7:15
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• 7:16
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• 7:19
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• 7:24
  Speaker 3: Welcome me back in here.
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  Speaker 1: On Monday, sadly not a victory Monday, but we're going
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  Speaker 1: to go over some of the video against the Jets
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  Speaker 1: and talk a little bit about what went down in
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  Speaker 1: that game, because things started out not bad as we
• 7:34
  Speaker 1: talked about the.
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  Speaker 4: First half, and was the first opening drive touchdown they've
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  Speaker 4: posted all year. They only had a pair of field
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  Speaker 4: goals to shoot for, so you know, we had talked
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  Speaker 4: with Mac early in the week about you know, what
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  Speaker 4: does it take to get started early? As well? I'm
• 7:46
  Speaker 4: not a football scientist, well he looked like one in
• 7:48
  Speaker 4: the first try.
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  Speaker 3: Football scientists, we do a lot of the short screens.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we know that works well for them obviously.
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  Speaker 1: That was something they wanted to do as a game
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  Speaker 1: plan that they came out with and it worked well
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  Speaker 1: early and getting beat he Jay involved obviously was huge
• 8:02
  Speaker 1: as well. There's there's some of that Mac Enert here
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  Speaker 1: we talk about. We love to see it. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: after this, I just felt like Brian Thompson he was
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  Speaker 1: going to have a day and we know he always
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  Speaker 1: has that ability to have a big play, but just
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  Speaker 1: getting him involved early and just seeing him being comfortable
• 8:19
  Speaker 1: out there, you can tell when he's kind of feeling
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  Speaker 1: in rhythm.
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  Speaker 4: That's incredible separation there right in a tight area to
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  Speaker 4: just run away from the defensive back like he's not
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  Speaker 4: even trailing him. Just put the ball out there and
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  Speaker 4: let him go get it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, during the draft, you heard from the analyst that
• 8:36
  Speaker 5: there were three guys at the top, but that out
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  Speaker 5: of all the others, he had the ability to be
• 8:41
  Speaker 5: a one. And we could start to see it in
• 8:43
  Speaker 5: training camp where he would get open easily and he
• 8:47
  Speaker 5: had such natural speed and the DBS we're talking about
• 8:51
  Speaker 5: how hard it was to cover him, the Buccaneers DBS, well,
• 8:55
  Speaker 5: even the Jets. But I mean there's a lot of
• 8:58
  Speaker 5: jokes in there, but he's special in the way he's
• 9:04
  Speaker 5: very hard to defend. He has natural speed. What was
• 9:06
  Speaker 5: cool about that he broke Allen Hearns's rookie record and
• 9:10
  Speaker 5: he went over and gave the ball to his mom, Sondra,
• 9:12
  Speaker 5: and out of it. It's fun in an unfun season
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  Speaker 5: to see a kid kind of coming into his own
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  Speaker 5: and there's a confidence. I love his confidence because it's
• 9:26
  Speaker 5: not a cockiness, meaning he knows he's really really good
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  Speaker 5: and he really doesn't have to tell everybody he's really good.
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  Speaker 5: And he plays with that, he's not surprised when he succeeds.
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  Speaker 4: It's gonna be fun to watch how good.
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: This guy gets turns into cockiness on the field though.
• 9:43
  Speaker 1: I think what he's saying to some other people, But
• 9:46
  Speaker 1: that's I.
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  Speaker 4: Know, that's okay. I just love the way you approached Listen.
• 9:51
  Speaker 4: If I love it with Mac, I'm gonna love it
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  Speaker 4: even more with Brian Thomas.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about the fake punt and
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  Speaker 1: then the first touchdown for the Jets, because at first
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: you like, okay, we go.
• 10:00
  Speaker 3: Score, we get a three and out, not quite what
• 10:04
  Speaker 3: it meant to be.
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  Speaker 5: So well, this is always you're always in danger of
• 10:11
  Speaker 5: this sort of play late in the season if teams
• 10:15
  Speaker 5: are involved that are out of it because there's really
• 10:18
  Speaker 5: no risk, nothing to lose. I don't know that you
• 10:20
  Speaker 5: would have seen this call from a team in it
• 10:24
  Speaker 5: or in week four, but when it's two, three and ten,
• 10:28
  Speaker 5: teams roll it out here and go with vague people.
• 10:31
  Speaker 4: Detroit are run happy with Dan Campbell this morning for
• 10:33
  Speaker 4: going for an on side kick, so you do see
• 10:37
  Speaker 4: some craziness there. It felt like once they got that
• 10:41
  Speaker 4: first down, here comes Jared Rogers and Barret Wilson is
• 10:44
  Speaker 4: really fast and look at him just you know, one's peppering.
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  Speaker 3: I can't imagine that was the plan, but probably all
• 10:50
  Speaker 3: by himself.
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  Speaker 4: Were a couple of those instances yesterday where it's like, wow,
• 10:53
  Speaker 4: look at how wide open the receiver is.
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: All right, now, let's talk a little bit about some
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: of the Mac what are you doing moments? So his
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: first interception of day and then also kind of that
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: scramble after as well. So with Mac Jones, we know
• 11:06
  Speaker 1: interceptions will come. Obviously, it's frustrating when you feel like
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: things are going well and then it kind of stops
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  Speaker 1: everything up.
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  Speaker 5: But the first one, though, didn't It wasn't Yeah, it
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  Speaker 5: was third down.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the same bas that gets a really good punch.
• 11:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah. And that's the sort of play that I think
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  Speaker 5: with Mac. And I'm not sitting you're trying to hammer
• 11:27
  Speaker 5: on Mac, but with Max's arm, if you're gonna get
• 11:30
  Speaker 5: a big play, that's sort of the time to throw
• 11:33
  Speaker 5: it up and see what happens. Uh, because you're putting
• 11:36
  Speaker 5: on the next down anyway, So this one will go
• 11:39
  Speaker 5: down as Okay, tuner sent for Mac. I wouldn't care
• 11:42
  Speaker 5: well and I would say he turns into Derek Hannell.
• 11:44
  Speaker 4: My complaint though, is that he was throwing at Devin DuVernay, right,
• 11:48
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's not the tallest guy, and you're throwing
• 11:50
  Speaker 4: into double coverage for Devin Duberne and here, I mean
• 11:52
  Speaker 4: this is credit for him. I mean it wasn't gonna slide. Yeah, Mac, Mamia, yeah, Well,
• 12:00
  Speaker 4: I mean this is a runner. He himself said he's
• 12:03
  Speaker 4: not the fastest guy. I mean that's a quote from
• 12:05
  Speaker 4: him this week's and to fight for that. That was
• 12:07
  Speaker 4: on third down, pick up the key, first down. I
• 12:10
  Speaker 4: loved it. He didn't need to see Brian.
• 12:11
  Speaker 3: You didn't love this, though, did you?
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 12:13
  Speaker 5: I hate it.
• 12:14
  Speaker 4: This is and you and I were texting and your thoughts, Well,
• 12:17
  Speaker 4: this is what you get with Mac. Just toss the
• 12:20
  Speaker 4: ball out of bounds. Don't take the six yard sack
• 12:23
  Speaker 4: because now it's third and goal from the thirteen as
• 12:25
  Speaker 4: opposed to third and goal from the six. I mean, Mack,
• 12:28
  Speaker 4: what do you doing?
• 12:29
  Speaker 5: Mac could tell you that was a little bit of
• 12:30
  Speaker 5: a brain fade, which we all have. Not everybody has
• 12:33
  Speaker 5: it on National I.
• 12:36
  Speaker 4: Get it, but you just you're the quarterbot. No it
• 12:39
  Speaker 4: just drop it out of bounds. That's all you have
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  Speaker 4: to do.
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: All right, Let's talk some DeVante Adams things, because that
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: is a talent. Obviously, we knew Aaron Rodgers very talented,
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: DeVante Adams very talented as well, and seeing that combination
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: all the years they've played with each other, just some
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: impressive plays out there on the football field.
• 12:55
  Speaker 4: Well, we only had one catch of one target in
• 12:57
  Speaker 4: the first half, and you just knew this was this
• 13:00
  Speaker 4: was game changing. This was a Hall of Fame quarterback
• 13:02
  Speaker 4: and a lot of players and coaches talked about it yesterday,
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  Speaker 4: but we're talking about one of the best receivers in
• 13:07
  Speaker 4: recent memory and a Hall of Famer for certain. And
• 13:11
  Speaker 4: I was trying to put in context what yesterday's performance
• 13:15
  Speaker 4: where he was just physically better than everyone else in
• 13:18
  Speaker 4: the secondary. Julio Jones came in here in twenty and
• 13:21
  Speaker 4: fifteen and the Jaguars couldn't No one could cover him,
• 13:24
  Speaker 4: and Andre Johnson did a time and time again with
• 13:26
  Speaker 4: the Texans. That was an epic performance by that receiver.
• 13:30
  Speaker 4: He was just so much better than everyone around.
• 13:31
  Speaker 5: Him, you know. And we've talked some this year about
• 13:35
  Speaker 5: this sort of dynamic with this team I've said all year,
• 13:40
  Speaker 5: I don't know if the Jaguars have enough great elite players.
• 13:44
  Speaker 5: He said, well, oh, I think he's gonna have DeVante Adams.
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: Where the Eagles beat the Jags this year.
• 13:49
  Speaker 5: Because DeVante Smith, Debonda Smith and Don were okay, made
• 13:55
  Speaker 5: a huge play above the x's and o's. Great players
• 14:01
  Speaker 5: win games like that, and DeVante Adams being the best
• 14:04
  Speaker 5: player in the field meant the Jets won well and
• 14:07
  Speaker 5: the Jaguars need more of that.
• 14:10
  Speaker 4: They had that touchdown reversed and got the ball back
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  Speaker 4: and went right back to him, so they didn't think
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  Speaker 4: about anybody else. It's we're seventeen. You can't cover him.
• 14:19
  Speaker 5: Well, there are three or four plays Davante made, now
• 14:22
  Speaker 5: the two big ones in the fourth quarter. You're not fast,
• 14:26
  Speaker 5: but you might have been able to get the first
• 14:29
  Speaker 5: down on the last play. So they gave him too
• 14:34
  Speaker 5: much as well. But there were also plays that there
• 14:38
  Speaker 5: were three or four plays the touchdown, the twenty seven
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  Speaker 5: yard are down the sidelines that he did get the
• 14:43
  Speaker 5: ball and I didn't think he caught it, he made
• 14:46
  Speaker 5: the catch.
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: Those were throw it up to a Hall.
• 14:49
  Speaker 5: Of Fame player, And again, I don't want to believor
• 14:52
  Speaker 5: the point that Brian Thomas Junior was turning into. I
• 14:56
  Speaker 5: think he's quite there yet. That's what you have to
• 14:59
  Speaker 5: have to get to a level.
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: He has a long way to go in the sense
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: that it's about timing. I mean, you could just see
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: that it was in eight between Rogers and Adam yesterday.
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: That is time on task. That is not training camp,
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: that is not year two, that is year seven kind
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: of stuff.
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  Speaker 5: But the good news for the Jags is they have
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: a quarterback Brian Thomas Junior has the ability to become
• 15:21
  Speaker 5: to make that sort of play. I don't know that
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: they've had that since Blackman.
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: No, they have not. And you hope that next year
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: the quarterback is healthy and the wide receiver stays healthy
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: because those guys get beat up too. But that you're
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: seeing that timing on some of those spade passes that
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: he just hasn't been able to hit with mac Jones.
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: He just doesn't have enough muscle memory from running the
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: route on the practice field.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: He doesn't. Unfortunately, we did not win this football game.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to show you the last interception, and
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: we talked a lot about the Jets, So we're going
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: to move this along today and we'll tell you what
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: our hot takes are for the team and come back
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• 16:22
  Speaker 6: I think it's extremely frustrating, but we got a good
• 16:24
  Speaker 6: group of guys that win our lose, will stick to
• 16:28
  Speaker 6: you know, stick with it and stick with each other.
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: And I think this locker room is not a fantastic,
• 16:32
  Speaker 6: fantastic job if you're sticking thin this year, I'm of
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: rallying around each other so you know, we could get
• 16:42
  Speaker 6: I mean, they could be the exact opposite, and guys
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: haven't let that happen, so are very appreciative of that.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: And it makes coming to work a lot easier to
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: stick together. So that three more games this season, we're
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: going to bring you.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Our hot takes now from Firehouse subs Brian, when you're
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: looking ahead, what's your hot takes?
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: These are getting harder and harder because it mean it.
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: They're obvious to people. But last week we talked about
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: all the young players and why the Jaguars were able
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: to beat the Titans because of their young players. But yesterday,
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: in the most critical moment of the ballgame, they lost
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: because of one. It's tied at twenty five in the
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: fourth quarter. It's the final drive for the Jets, and
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: it's third down and five on the cusp of field
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: goal range, and the Jets called time out. So you
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: had a chance to talk about this on the sideline.
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: And when they lined up and I saw Davante Adams
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: across being covered by Jari and Jones, I went, there
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: it is, that's where they're going, and Jarian Jones let
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: him go. Right you're in man coverage and he let
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: him go. So there was a miscue somewhere. He thought
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: he made a mistake. But your young player in a
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: crucial situation didn't do the right thing. And DeVante Adams
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: was wide open, and as you mentioned, I could have
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: gotten the first down. Yeah, he went forty one yards
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: to set up the game winning touchdown. And so you
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: when you play with young players, you win with the
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: sword and you die by the sword, so to speak,
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: and that was the case yesterday on the most critical
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: play of the game for the defense.
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm frankly not sure. I mean, I don't know
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: that Jarian Jones was a bad matchup. He might be
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: the best.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: Cornerback right now in this steam. Oh, I no doubt that.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Did we double thought?
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Well?
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, Adams mightn't require that, right. This is not
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: meant to gut Jarian Jones. I think he's a really
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: good young player. It's just whether it was the scheme
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: and how you decided to do it, or whether it
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: was the execution. You were relying on a young player
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: against the best player on the field yesterday. Is there
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: any argument that he was the best football player in
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: the field yesterday and so it didn't work out and
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: you have those mistakes with young players.
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with that, Brian. It's tough to come
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: up with a clever new hot takes after these games.
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: I went with this is who they are, is what
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: they are, It's what they've been all season. They fight.
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: They fought yesterday. The one two and the will were impressive.
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: It was defined by Mac. But you know, I think
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: there was any doubt they were playing together. They wanted
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: to achieve, but they've lost big game. I mean they've
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: lost games with big plays at the end of games.
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: They've lost eight one score games. And to further the theme,
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: they're a team that gives up a criminal amount of
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: explosive plays in big situations. It's almost it's hard to
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: give up as many as they do. And so I
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: would rather be here at eight and five talking about
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: different things. But I don't know how else you define
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: this team other than to say that game is what
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: this season is all about.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: It was a full microcosmo the entire year.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: I felt full money.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Full deal. All right, I'm going a little positive. I
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: don't think this is hot. This is not a hot
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: take for anybody in Jacksonville, but it might be a
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: national hot take. I think Brian Thomas Junior is currently
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: the best wide receiver from his class right now when
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: you look at the stats.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: Obviously, none of those.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Rookies are in great situations that necessarily the team. He
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: could say, Marvin Harrison Junior is, but the Bears and
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: the Giants have struggled as well. But Brian Thomas, with
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: his two touchdowns yesterday, breaking the franchise record for yards
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: as well. He now leads in receiving yards, he leads
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: in touchdowns. He does not lead in receptions, but Milik
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Nighbers has about forty more targets than him, so that's
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: a little bit of that. I think his development as well,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: also with a backup quarterback in mac Jones, has shown
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: his versatility and he's just getting smarter as things go along.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: So in a draft where they said there were only
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: three wide receivers, that think Brian Thomas Junior is proving
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: that there was more than that.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: By the way, the Raiders have a young player that
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: they're very excited about. Just like Brian Thomas Junior, we'll
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: see Brock Bowers and Taple down here saw him all
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: the time when he was at Georgia and was a
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: star player. He leads all tight ends in the NFL,
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: not just rookies, all tight ends in receptions and yards
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: and is a first team All Pro possibility.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: And on a team where they've been struggling as well.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: And they have struggled as well, and he slid.
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, I was wrong about Brock Bowers. I
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: thought that he maybe hit achieved in college because he
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: was bigger, stronger, faster, everybody else, and you wondered if
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: that will that doesn't always translate. And guess what, this
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: is the first time I've ever know.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: Wrong.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: The Raiders have a long tradition of great tight ends,
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: going all the way back to Dave Casper. For those
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: of you old enough to recall, this guy is evoking
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: those sorts of thoughts. He looks like he's truly a
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: great player. So there, it's a great sign for people
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: who were worried about draft order, right because he's slid
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: and Brian Thomas link back to Daguars, move back a
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: couple of times and got Brian Thomas. It doesn't matter
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: whether you're third or whether you're sixth. What matters is
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: is that you get a great player, find a great player,
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: and there will be some good players no matter where
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: the Jaguars are. The Raiders got powers at what thirteen
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: fourteen something like that, Ain't that right? Yeah?
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: That'll do all right.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: So let's well tell you what's going on the rest
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: of us. Can we come back at the break