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Myths & Legends BIg Pharma, Insurance, Healing Mental Wellness & Long Haul · Wellness Uncensored

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  Speaker 1: Hey, good afternoon and welcome to another episode of Wellness Uncensored.
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  Speaker 1: My name is Dr. Patty G. I'm a psychiatric nurse practitioner,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm here today to talk to you about all
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  Speaker 1: things health, wellness, mental health, you name it, nothing's uncensored
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  Speaker 1: on the table today. I'm glad to have you all here.
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  Speaker 1: Today's topic, we're going to kind of continue and carry
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  Speaker 1: on from last week because we had some really good
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  Speaker 1: conversations and questions. I am still getting hit hard with
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  Speaker 1: a lot of pushback from big pharma, insurance companies, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you name it, it runs the gamut. And, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I would be remiss if I told you it's going
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  Speaker 1: to get any better. Mental health is so important, the
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  Speaker 1: health and the mental wellness of how we all get
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  Speaker 1: through our day. And the last thing we need is
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  Speaker 1: resistance and pushback, questions, and red tape. And for the
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  Speaker 1: benefit of our friends in big pharma, there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of medications that do a really good job. I always
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  Speaker 1: will tell people, don't rely on medication as your source, right?
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  Speaker 1: Because it's an aid. What I don't want medications to
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  Speaker 1: become is a band-aid and Like many people, they come
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  Speaker 1: rushing in. I need something. I don't feel well. I
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  Speaker 1: need something. I can't think. I need something. I can't sleep.
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  Speaker 1: I need something. I'm sad. Okay. And there's some really
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  Speaker 1: good things out there, you know, in addition to medication.
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  Speaker 1: But medication is meant to be a support. It's kind
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  Speaker 1: of like a bridge. Have you ever been somewhere and
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  Speaker 1: you have to go over a bridge to get from
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  Speaker 1: A to B? Where I'm at in my town, some
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  Speaker 1: people are contemplating, well, why don't we have a bridge
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  Speaker 1: to go over to that little island? Because right now
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  Speaker 1: we have to go over a bridge, go on the
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  Speaker 1: mainland and then go over another bridge to get to
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  Speaker 1: the other side. They just want another bridge so we
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  Speaker 1: don't have to go around. And in theory, it sounds
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  Speaker 1: like a good idea, but you know, then there's a
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  Speaker 1: part of things where is it beneficial? Is it disruptive?
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  Speaker 1: Is it a shortcut? What is it going to do
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  Speaker 1: to the long-term scheme of things? Right. And I just
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  Speaker 1: think the beauty and the nature would be lost. You'd
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  Speaker 1: be driving your bridge between the intercoastal and the ocean
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  Speaker 1: where they meet and And it's beautiful right there now.
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  Speaker 1: So why drive a bridge over it? You know, we're
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  Speaker 1: putting up lights, traffic lights, all kinds of things in town.
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  Speaker 1: The development in Florida is just, it's astronomical. And, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we're not preserving much in terms of the wildlife. However,
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  Speaker 1: I say all that because there is a lot to
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  Speaker 1: be said for mental wellness and mental health to enjoy
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  Speaker 1: the beauty and the quietness and the peacefulness around us.
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  Speaker 1: So with medications, and big pharma and where we are
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  Speaker 1: in our lovely, lovely insurance companies. I can't imagine anybody
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  Speaker 1: here believes that the insurance companies are really helping us
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  Speaker 1: in many ways, because how many times do you get
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  Speaker 1: told denied, denied, not approved, prove why you need it. No,
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  Speaker 1: you need more of this. You need more of that.
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  Speaker 1: So I get it. They're in the business to kind
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  Speaker 1: of manage us, but really the more they delay us,
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  Speaker 1: the more frustrated I get sometimes. Now, I will tell
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  Speaker 1: you in terms of with mental health, we don't want
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  Speaker 1: to just rely on a medication. So getting good nutrition,
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  Speaker 1: getting good sleep, they're always the things that I try
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  Speaker 1: to lead with. But when we want to use insurance
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  Speaker 1: and we're paying for it, and in fact, when we're
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  Speaker 1: paying for it, know the difference. We are even further
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  Speaker 1: limited by our choices. In many of the insurances that
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  Speaker 1: are provided at no cost to some folks, they kind
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  Speaker 1: of can get what they want. But the ones that
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  Speaker 1: are paying a lot of these commercial plans, you have
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  Speaker 1: to try certain meds, you have to try more meds,
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  Speaker 1: and you don't always get to try the best meds,
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  Speaker 1: or you don't get to try the treatment until you
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  Speaker 1: try some of the medications. And I'm all for choice.
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  Speaker 1: And I think if you make an educated choice, and
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  Speaker 1: you're willing to try medication A, medication B, or if
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  Speaker 1: you're willing to try a procedure, right, because you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'll talk about TMS and magnetic therapy, how really wonderful
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  Speaker 1: it is. Why do I have to use medications first?
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  Speaker 1: That's how it goes. So, you know, today we're going
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  Speaker 1: to continue on the journey to help you all understand,
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  Speaker 1: I need your help, you need your help, and we
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  Speaker 1: need to tell a friend or two or three, we've
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  Speaker 1: got to start challenging the insurance companies that we're paying
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  Speaker 1: out of pocket for. Even if your employer's paying for
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  Speaker 1: some or all of it, it's still limiting you. And
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  Speaker 1: I have had more than one, two or 10 patients
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  Speaker 1: come back with, well, the insurance won't cover that. Well,
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  Speaker 1: the insurance wants me to try two, four, five different
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  Speaker 1: medications before they'll approve this medication. It's really not okay.
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  Speaker 1: You know, all meds are not created equal. And I
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  Speaker 1: think too, we've also learned, which it shouldn't come as
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  Speaker 1: a surprise in other countries, Most of the medications that
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  Speaker 1: we have access to, they get at a fraction of
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  Speaker 1: the cost. And sadly, I was inspired that some of
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  Speaker 1: these new independent plans, one put out by our current
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  Speaker 1: government association has put into place where you can get
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  Speaker 1: some of these medications at a fraction of the cost.
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  Speaker 1: There's like 70 on there. Do you know how many
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  Speaker 1: medications there are? And sure enough, all the ones that
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  Speaker 1: I need and I want to prescribe for my patients
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  Speaker 1: don't seem to be on that list. And I'll take,
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  Speaker 1: for example, I'll just throw one of the names out there, Capilita.
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  Speaker 1: It's a great med, has a lot of potential. I've
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  Speaker 1: been using it successfully to help people, far less side effects.
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  Speaker 1: You've probably seen some of the ads. But then when
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  Speaker 1: you go to order it, you get told, oh, we
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  Speaker 1: need that fun little thing I talked to you all
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  Speaker 1: about last week, the prior authorization. What is a prior authorization?
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  Speaker 1: Do you know a prior authorization is like applying for
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  Speaker 1: a mortgage? You have to take not only what you've
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  Speaker 1: written on the patient and you have to put down
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  Speaker 1: even more detail and then you have to go do homework.
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  Speaker 1: It's almost like a research project. You have to try
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  Speaker 1: a couple of different medications on the patient. You have
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  Speaker 1: to say why you want this med. You have to
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  Speaker 1: say why the other meds don't work. And look, I
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  Speaker 1: get that it's helpful for them to make a decision.
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  Speaker 1: But if you're going to offer these medications, I say
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  Speaker 1: to big pharma, cut the darn cost. make it available
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  Speaker 1: so that we who want to utilize your medications can
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  Speaker 1: prescribe your medications. And instead what they do, they come out,
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  Speaker 1: they talk to us about these medications, and then we
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  Speaker 1: go to use them and you have to jump through hoops. Now,
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  Speaker 1: if you work in a bigger office, there's staff that
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  Speaker 1: sometimes that's what they pay them to do, which also,
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  Speaker 1: if you have an office and you have staff, it's
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  Speaker 1: going to increase your cost. And that's passed on to
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  Speaker 1: the consumer. But we have staff that will write some
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  Speaker 1: of these prior authorizations and help and collaborate. But how
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  Speaker 1: about those of us, you know, cause I have my
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  Speaker 1: own independent business as well. I don't have the time
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  Speaker 1: to sit down and write a book report on why
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  Speaker 1: Mary should have this medication. How about because it's got
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  Speaker 1: the least side effects and it's going to give her
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  Speaker 1: a quicker boost in her mood and it's going to present,
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  Speaker 1: prevent her from feeling sad or suicidal. How about that?
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  Speaker 1: How about like suicide prevention? Okay. You know, I told
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  Speaker 1: Rebel before I got on, my producer, I was pretty
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  Speaker 1: fired up today. The more I talk about it, I
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  Speaker 1: actually am because I have been doing this kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Sad to say, it's been about 40 years, okay? So
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  Speaker 1: in 40 years, I used to be an early adopter.
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  Speaker 1: I was all about learning. I was all about whatever
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  Speaker 1: you tell me to do, I'm going to do. And
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  Speaker 1: then I became one of those that would trust but verify.
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  Speaker 1: Now I feel like I've grown into, I kind of
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  Speaker 1: fight everything and I just don't like fighting. I like
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  Speaker 1: to be able to help people. So with all that said,
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  Speaker 1: I want you all to learn that there are some
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  Speaker 1: good things out there for you, but you got to
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  Speaker 1: start making some phone calls to your insurance company and
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  Speaker 1: push back. I will tell you, I think I said
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  Speaker 1: last week, I had a patient that was, he was
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  Speaker 1: so infuriated that he couldn't get the medication he wanted.
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  Speaker 1: He did a lot of work for us. And he
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  Speaker 1: called and he called and he wore that insurance company down.
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  Speaker 1: And it was probably the first time ever. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: need to go through a trial of a couple of
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  Speaker 1: different medications to get him the medication that he really wanted,
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  Speaker 1: that we wanted for him. Better still, and I feel
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  Speaker 1: like we're blowing up the text lines now. I've got
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  Speaker 1: your text messages coming in. We'll get to those in
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  Speaker 1: just a second. But I've had patients, there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of medications out there. I'm just going to name some
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  Speaker 1: of the ones that, I've used and that I've had
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  Speaker 1: this happen. I've had patients try some of these medications
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  Speaker 1: that are cheaper and they've had near life-threatening allergic reactions
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  Speaker 1: to them. Why? Because it's what we have to try
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  Speaker 1: because we can't try the other meds first because they're
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  Speaker 1: not always approved. And funny enough too, I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: could just, I could probably fill the hour. I have
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  Speaker 1: patients that when they tell me their allergies and I'll
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  Speaker 1: put them in our system, it will pop back sometimes
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  Speaker 1: that they're not necessarily allergic to the medication, but they're
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  Speaker 1: allergic to some of the components in the medication. And
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  Speaker 1: do you know how many people don't often know this
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  Speaker 1: or check this out? So this one person, we gave
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  Speaker 1: him an SSRI and each dose, let's just say it's
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  Speaker 1: Paxil or Prozac, each dose has a different nutrient additive,
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  Speaker 1: like blue number three or red number 10, whatever it is.
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  Speaker 1: I'm making that up. But those dyes can sometimes cause
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  Speaker 1: allergic reactions, significant ones. This guy developed a rash, his
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  Speaker 1: throat swelled. I shouldn't have to put the patient to task.
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  Speaker 1: So we do need to have a better job of
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  Speaker 1: giving people the ingredients and the cross potential allergic effects
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  Speaker 1: when we prescribe. And I'm here to tell you, not
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  Speaker 1: all programs that have been put out there for providers
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  Speaker 1: to utilize are as sensitive as this particular one that
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  Speaker 1: I use at one of the places that I'm at.
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  Speaker 1: So we're really trying to give you the best type
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  Speaker 1: of treatment plan, the best type of therapeutic approach. But
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  Speaker 1: I think consumers often don't realize what goes on before
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  Speaker 1: and after you leave or should happen after you leave
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  Speaker 1: your provider's office. And we need to partner because you
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  Speaker 1: guys are paying for the insurance. We're trying to work
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  Speaker 1: through the insurance and they seem to be the ones
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  Speaker 1: telling us, can't use that med. Oh, you can use
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  Speaker 1: that med, but it's $ 1, 800. You can use the med,
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  Speaker 1: but we need a prior authorization. So we need to
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  Speaker 1: write a book report. And we may need to try
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  Speaker 1: some medications. They also, between the pharmacies and the insurance companies,
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  Speaker 1: I was sharing this with you guys last week. Do
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  Speaker 1: you know when the pharmacist tells you you have to
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  Speaker 1: get a 90 day prescription, they'll tell you, oh, it's
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  Speaker 1: because it's cheaper. You're going to pay the same for
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  Speaker 1: a 90 day as you would a 30. So get
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  Speaker 1: the 90. They want you to agree to that so
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  Speaker 1: they can tell me, oh, the patient needs the 90 day.
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  Speaker 1: That's the first misinformation. I want to be gentle. The
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  Speaker 1: other part of it is the insurance company and the
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  Speaker 1: pharmaceuticals or the pharmacies, they partner because, and again, I
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  Speaker 1: keep telling y'all, Google it, and now I'm learning how
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  Speaker 1: to use ChatGPT. But when you Google it, it has
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  Speaker 1: changed four or five times in the last year. But
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  Speaker 1: there's incentives and bonuses if they can get you off
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  Speaker 1: a 30-day refill and put you on a 90-day. What's
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  Speaker 1: the problem with that, right? Who sees a problem with that?
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  Speaker 1: The problem with that is my goal should be to
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  Speaker 1: have you on a short-term plan for medication support to
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  Speaker 1: get you to find lifestyle, mood, and behavior changes to
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  Speaker 1: get you down and off medications. But if I put
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  Speaker 1: you on 90 days and I see you three or
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  Speaker 1: four times a year, how apt are you to be
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  Speaker 1: held accountable? And how apt are you willing to break
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  Speaker 1: unhealthy habits or unhealthy coping skills? So what does that
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  Speaker 1: lead to? That leads a lifetime of dependency on medications
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  Speaker 1: because you're not actively working to make those changes. That
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  Speaker 1: is why folks, I just can't say it enough. Psychiatry
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  Speaker 1: is the study of human behavior and the human psyche,
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  Speaker 1: the brain, the study of how the brain works and functions.
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  Speaker 1: Medication management is meant to support and augment it to
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  Speaker 1: develop better behaviors, better coping skills. So if you just
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  Speaker 1: have meds without treatment, you're just band-aiding. your problems aren't
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  Speaker 1: going to get better. We need to work hand in hand.
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  Speaker 1: That is what true, you know, psychotherapy medication management is
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  Speaker 1: intended for. That's why when we recommend and we offer,
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  Speaker 1: and we want to prescribe transcranial magnetic therapy, we have
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  Speaker 1: to go through the hoops of getting insurance to approve
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  Speaker 1: it after we trial several medications and what they're hoping
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  Speaker 1: and what has happened in many cases, if patients get
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  Speaker 1: relief of symptoms, what do you think happens? Well, the
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  Speaker 1: meds are working really good. I don't think I have time. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: but you're going to be taking medication. That's not fixing
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  Speaker 1: the problem. You're going to be taking medication and you're
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  Speaker 1: going to have side effects. And here's the harder part too.
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  Speaker 1: You're going to take medication. You might have side effects.
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  Speaker 1: These medications are meant to be used really independently. So
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  Speaker 1: if you want to go out and have a party
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  Speaker 1: or you want to indulge in a beverage, a drink,
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  Speaker 1: alcoholic drink, you could compromise yourself. You could really hurt yourself.
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  Speaker 1: So do you see how the model is set up?
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  Speaker 1: It's not really set up to get you healed. It's
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  Speaker 1: set up to give you a bandaid and it's set
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  Speaker 1: up so that we're going to go through every possible
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  Speaker 1: older med first. And we're not going to jump to
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  Speaker 1: the newer ones because they're right now expensive. So there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of reasons why I get frustrated with this.
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  Speaker 1: And I hope this is helpful to you in giving
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  Speaker 1: you a sort of a behind the scenes education on
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  Speaker 1: some of these meds. So let's, let's jump to some
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  Speaker 1: of these questions. Okay. Okay. So I would agree Becca
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  Speaker 1: has quite the completely opposite stance. And normally Becca, this
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  Speaker 1: is what we talk about. You know, this is why
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  Speaker 1: many people like to be treated with kind of the
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  Speaker 1: approaches that I use because I'm very holistic. I am
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  Speaker 1: far more apt to want to get you into doing
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  Speaker 1: behavioral changes, lifestyle changes, nutrition changes, movement changes. We use medication,
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  Speaker 1: we use treatments as an adjunct, as a support to
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  Speaker 1: really break through some resistant problems. But yeah, As far
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  Speaker 1: as I go, you know, nature is wonderful. And like
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  Speaker 1: I described that bridge, think about the world around you,
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  Speaker 1: where you live. Why are we so quick to concrete
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  Speaker 1: the heck out of every possible place we can? Why
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  Speaker 1: have we stopped walking? Why have we stopped bike riding?
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  Speaker 1: We've come up with these e-bikes. I've seen more injuries,
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  Speaker 1: more trauma, more drama, more heartache. And yeah, they're fun,
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  Speaker 1: they're efficient, but you know what? You gotta be really careful.
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  Speaker 1: Can you do it? Yes. Should you do it? Maybe
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  Speaker 1: in the right setting, but I'll reserve my comment for
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  Speaker 1: the e-bikes. I just, me personally, I would rather use
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  Speaker 1: my legs and power through where I'm gonna go. And
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  Speaker 1: if it's too far, then I will set the course accordingly.
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  Speaker 1: As far as medication, it depends. Donna's got a great question.
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  Speaker 1: Where can we get medication? Medication generally has to be prescribed.
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  Speaker 1: So we can either recommend providers in your area, we
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  Speaker 1: can talk to you offline if you want to either
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  Speaker 1: text or call us. At Magnolia Behavioral Wellness, we do
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  Speaker 1: treat people here in Florida and certain things we can
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  Speaker 1: help with across the country, especially with nutrition and supplements, peptides,
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  Speaker 1: things like that. But if you have questions and you
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  Speaker 1: want to either Look us up on Magnolia, the letter B, wellness.com.
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  Speaker 1: That's one way to reach us. You can also text
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  Speaker 1: or call 904-377-1196. And texting is great because we can
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  Speaker 1: pretty much text you throughout the day. But yeah, medications,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you really don't want to take a medication
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  Speaker 1: without someone's good medical knowledge. But a lot of these
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  Speaker 1: medications specific to the ones that I'm talking about, you
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  Speaker 1: you want to go to somebody who's not willing to
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  Speaker 1: just slap a medication on you. And then when you
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  Speaker 1: come back in, they want to just increase the dose.
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  Speaker 1: They really should be listening to your symptoms and they
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  Speaker 1: should also be listening to what other things are you
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  Speaker 1: doing in your lifestyle to help improve your symptoms. And
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  Speaker 1: that's where the therapy comes in. The different work between
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  Speaker 1: improving your diet, cutting out sugar, lowering carbs, getting physically active. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: That's really important. Um, Another person has a question about
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  Speaker 1: being prescribed a medication from a doctor and the pharmacy
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  Speaker 1: caught that they were allergic to something. Yeah, I'm glad
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  Speaker 1: that they caught it. And that should be the case.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of times it's not. I won't say a lot.
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  Speaker 1: I would say you have to trust but verify. And
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  Speaker 1: people that are there and that are really looking to
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  Speaker 1: do a good job, they're going to. And they're the
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  Speaker 1: safeguards for all of us, right? I had a patient
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  Speaker 1: who was a nurse. Her husband was a surgeon. And
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  Speaker 1: she came in and we were providing a medication that, well,
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  Speaker 1: we didn't actually provide it. We were providing the psych meds,
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  Speaker 1: but she had been recovering from a type of pneumonia.
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  Speaker 1: So while she was coming in to see me and
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  Speaker 1: we were talking pretty regularly because she was dealing with
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  Speaker 1: postpartum depression issues. And I can tell you some stuff
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  Speaker 1: about that too. But while we were dealing with her,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: I hadn't heard from her over a weekend. And I thought, oh, well,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: maybe she's doing a little better, but I was going
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: to see her on Tuesday. And she came in on
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Tuesday and Only to my surprise, remember, remember she's a nurse,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: her husband's a surgeon. She told me she was allergic
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: to a type of penicillin. So it was noted in
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: her chart. It was noted in her chart. And as
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: I was prescribing medications, those allergies went to the pharmacy
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: on my behalf, that the pharmacy should have had those
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: allergies as well. The person who was helping her with
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: what seemed to be unresolved pneumonia prescribed her an antibiotic
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: and it failed. The pharmacy, well, it failed the prescriber
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: first off because they prescribed it. It failed the pharmacy.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: And as a consumer, she had a little bit more
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: knowledge than most, right? Because she's a nurse. You'd think
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: she'd look up her own medications and her husband. And
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: she had an anaphylactic reaction to the antibiotic because it
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: was in the penicillin family. The weekend I didn't hear
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: from her, the EMS was called. She was intubated and
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: taken to the hospital, did fine. treated for a severe
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: anaphylactic allergic reaction, but how unnecessary and what if, right?
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Because when you have an anaphylactic reaction, you really need
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: minutes to get help. So that's an extreme example, but
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: this is why we're here, folks. This is why I
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: share these stories with you because you want to stay informed.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: You want to ask questions. You want to learn. Knowing
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: these things and the questions to ask can help you
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: one day. So you should know if there's any kind
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: of cross allergens to medications that it may not specifically
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: be the medication, but it could be the dye that's used.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Like 10 milligrams of one medication could be white, but
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: five milligrams of one medication could have red dye in it.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: or blue dye or whatever, or something else. It's important
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: for pharmacies and for the programs that we use to
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: order medications, have that cross coverage of knowing those ingredients.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: So hopefully that's helpful. But yeah, if you've got a
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: great pharmacist, that's fantastic because they're going to be looking
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: out for you. You just need to always check and verify.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Another good question. Tom was asking about glucothione and NAD
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: and vitamin B. Do they come in injection? Yes, they
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: all come in injection. You do need a prescription for them.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: And generally you need to be educated before the provider
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: would give you a way to self inject, but they
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: do come injectable for, we can get them. I have
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: places that can help you get them depending where you
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: are in the United States. And here's what glucothione NAD
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: and vitamin B do in case anybody's, you know, interested
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: to know the how and the why behind that. Glucothyron
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: your body makes, NAD your body makes, but over time
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: after about the age 25, you tend to lose the
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: production of NAD. It slows down and it's a coenzyme,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: but NAD is sort of a precursor. It's like the
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: energy in the Krebs cycle. And so NAD is very
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: good to give you energy, sustainability. It helps with brain fog.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: It helps with mental clarity. It's like the powerhouse. It's
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: like keeping your high performance car high performing. Um, glucothione
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: is one of the, it's a master detoxifier in your body.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: So if you were to use NAD or glucothione, these
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: types of supplements, they can be taken orally by capsule.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: They can be injected with, um, like a sub Q
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: or I am injection. Those can be administered, um, by yourself,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: but you have to be educated and it has to
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: come from a provider. but they can be extremely helpful
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: to give you energy. I personally do utilize them. I
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: do the injections as well as the IVs and I
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: find them remarkably good. I think that's how I can
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: keep myself so active and busy and do what I do.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: But yeah, you can get them in an injection. And
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: why are injections important? That's something else I think folks
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: need to know. We've talked about this a lot, but
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: it's good when you can bypass the gut. So from
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: your mouth, breaking it down into all the little pieces
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: as it goes in and then excreted through your digestion.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: When you inject it, you get more of the nutrient
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: at a higher level and it gets absorbed better. So again,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: that's why people ask about these, but yeah, NAD and
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: glucothione are great. NAC, not NAD, but NAC like in
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: cat is the precursor to glucothione and your body makes
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: that too. But the cool thing about NAC, which you
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: can also get We don't normally inject NAC. We put
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: NAC in an IV, but we don't normally inject NAC.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: But NAC, when you use it in an IV or
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: you take it into the body through a capsule, it
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: can help with a number of things. It is phenomenal
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: for OCD. And the way it works, again, it's a
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: precursor to glucothiol. So it's a cell repair. And so
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: in cell repair, Let's just say it goes in and
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: it cleans up some of the things that aren't working
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: so good. It refreshes the cells. It keeps the cells
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: functioning as they should. So for people that, you know,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: and again, the way I describe it, I don't want
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: to say people are stuck in the thinking, but let's
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: just say if you've got a lot of thinking, overthinking, overthinking,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: or you've got this repetition, it's been studied and there's
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: a fair amount of research articles out there. You can
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Google it yourself. NAC can help improve OCD. Okay. It
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: helps with some of the things a lot of folks
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: with OCD will either scratch or pick or have habits
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: that are repetitive. It helps to slow some of those
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: things down. Some people pull their hair, pull their eyebrows out.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: It can help with curbing those behaviors by again, improving
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: your cell repair and clean up. So NAC is really
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: good too. There is some additional literature out there too,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: because OCD like symptoms are, especially if you have kids
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: or you've been exposed to mold. Kids tend to develop
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: OCD when there is some sort of mold exposure, a
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: type of mold in the home. It's just an example.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: It's not the only thing.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: And if you're an adult, you know, you always want
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: to be aware that if you're starting to develop mental
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: health issues, anxiety, overthinking, OCD, you know, look around your
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: home and maybe do some mold testing just to see.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: But NEC is great for that. It's usually a thousand
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: milligrams twice a day, morning and afternoon. And again, all
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: these things I meant to tell you guys last time
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: on our website, magnolia b wellness.com. There is a several
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: toolbars at the top. And if you go in under
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: the products, the one company I use, it's thought about, gosh,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: they're probably up to like 70 manufacturers. Now they're all
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: third party tested, really pure vitamin supplements. They don't put fillers.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: You know, it's pretty much it's organic of what the
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: supplement is. When we ask you to log in, it's
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: so you have your own private client access. They do
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: not sell your data. They do not. Nobody spams you
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: or does anything like that. It's a it's a site
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: that a lot of providers use to prescribe and send
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: out information for you so you can get non-prescription type
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: supplements that are really high quality. And you can only
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: get them through someone who is a prescriber because that's
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: how we get our best and purest products. So you
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: can get that on the magnolia be wellness.com website. Just
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: go in under products and put in your name, your address.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: And I think you're not your address, your name, your
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: email information and your phone number and your age. And
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: then you can choose from any of the products that
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: are on there. And the prices are very competitive. We
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: typically give people 20% off. If you go through that website,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: So that's the one I use for my patients. So
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: that magnoiabeadwellness.com is where you can find it at the
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: top under products. And we also have other pieces of
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: information on there too. A lot of great questions. Becca
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: also had a question just about loving nature. I agree
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: with you. We really need to not only respect our environment,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: but I encourage you all when life gets really challenging
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: and complex and you find that you're really stressed, I
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: go back to the foundation of what I really try
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: to get folks to do when they come with different
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: issues and symptoms and challenges to go ground, get outside,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: put your feet in the sand, put your feet in
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: the dirt, put your feet in the grass, be quiet,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: be still, listen to the sounds around you. It's kind
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: of like working on the five senses. It's very important
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: to decompress. And in decompressing, you know, it's almost like
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: quieting your mind. You know, I do it myself. A
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: lot of times I'll share some of my tips and
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: challenges with you guys on the show. And I really
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: do practice what I promote. And I think it's important
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: to be able to do that. We all have things
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: come our way. And fortunately, not every day has to
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: be a crisis. But many days we're faced with multiple
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: things that just go against us. And when that happens,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: you know, it's easy to submit. It's easy to just
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: give in. It's easy to just give up. But that's
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: what we don't want to do. What you need to
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: do is press in and find some resiliency. Go give
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: yourself a break. Give yourself a reward. These things don't
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: have to cost money either. You can just go step
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: outside and take a walk. Look at some of the
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: nature's greatest gifts. We've got some beautiful birds down here.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Birds that, I mean, you just can't even imagine the
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: shapes and the sizes. Or just look at the clouds
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: and look at how each cloud is formed. You know,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: the simple, silly... things that we often take for granted
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: are probably some of the best things you can do
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: to really just reframe, quiet your mind, reset and get
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: yourself back in balance. Um, I was going to share
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: a story and it just flew out of my head, but, uh,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Landon has questioned and about, uh, seeing people from out
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: of state. Yeah. It depends what stage you're in, but
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: we are certainly available to everyone to answer questions. And
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: then whether it would be a consult or as a prescriber, um,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: We can see people from some states, not all of them,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: but we can see everybody to give you information if
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: you wanted to do a consult. And we can refer
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: you to people if it's something that we can't handle
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: in a particular state. But by and large, we can
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: at least be helpful, a helpful resource for everybody. So
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: just reach out to magnoliabewellness.com. Fill out the information section
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: if you want to be contacted, or you can just
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: text or call 904-377-110. So that kind of is what
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: I wanted to segue into about medications, insurance companies, and
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: really anything that's worth doing or working on yourself to heal.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Ask questions. Find the answers. Don't just rely on, you know,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: what your insurance company says. you can or can't do
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: don't just rely you know here's the other thing do
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: you all know especially for those of you that seem
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: to have some faith in some of these pharmacists they
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: are supposed to be able to help you get your
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: prior authorization as well They just don't and they push
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: it back on the providers, but they have the ability
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: to do that too. They have the list of the
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: meds you've taken. They have some of the side effects
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: that you may have experienced and they can help partner
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: with us by moving that prior authorization through. They just
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: choose not to do that. The other thing they can do,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: many of these pharmaceutical companies have webpages that you can
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: get a discount card that if you do want to
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: try certain medications that your provider's prescribed, you can go
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: on to, and usually here's the trick how to do this.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: You go on to the name of the drug, whatever
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: it is,. com, or find out if you can't seem
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: to find it that way with the medication.com, Google it
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: or Google the name of the pharmaceutical company. And they're
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: very big on, all these pharmaceutical companies have the websites
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: out there. And on the website, it'll say, you know,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: patient discount card, sign up here, get patient discount card.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: And it's usually close to no cost or $ 0 if
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: it's $ 10. But most of them I'm seeing now are
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: either $ 10 or no cost. You fill out the information
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: and they will give you like a little QRS code
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: or they'll give you a number and you take that
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: to your pharmacy. And then so if it's something that
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: one of your providers has prescribed, the pharmaceutical company will
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: help cover the cost so you can experience a newer,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: better medication that's been prescribed for you. Because if you
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: just run it through your insurance, it's probably, you know,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: a lot of money. So, you know, challenge people, you know,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: you can challenge me too, but challenge people that are
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: there that are supposed to help you and ask the pharmacist, well,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: can you do the prior authorization? Can you help me
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: with this? Or if, like I said, they want you
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: to get a 90 day prescription, find out why, Here's
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: why the 90 day prescription is, you know, it's a
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: bit of a burn for me because if I don't
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: get to see you for 90 days, how am I
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: helping you? I want to see you every 30 days
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: to make sure a, if it's a new medication, I
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: usually see people within two weeks of a new medication
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: just to make sure we're doing good because you know,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: many patients I've had, I'll set them up for a month.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: They'll come see me and they'll say, I tried it
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: for a day or two, but I didn't like how
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: I felt. I stopped. Well, that's not terrible, but why
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: didn't you move your appointment up? Why did you go
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: a whole month? You still feel as bad as you
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: did when you came in, but you stopped the medication.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Had you remembered and written down some of the things
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: we talked about, or had you moved your appointment up?
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: We can talk about, well, you are going to feel
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: a little this. You are going to feel a little that.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Let's just try to get you through a week. Let's
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: try some food. Let's move it from daytime to bedtime.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: You know, some medications... It depends on the time of
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: day you take them. It really depends on the meds.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: So I can't tell you for sure today which med
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: is better for you at daytime or nighttime. Sometimes it's
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: better with food. There's one med in particular that I
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: prescribe that's great for anxiety. You can't not take it
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: without food, a good chunk of food, like a muffin
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: or like an egg and cheese sandwich. You need a
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: good quantity of food because it gets in and it energizes.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: And it's going to do a really good job. And
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: it's going to do some of the things that we
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: don't want some of the basic, you know, antidepressants to
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: do where they dampen you down. This one is energizing.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: It gives you good energy and lifts you up. But
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: because it's sort of so metabolizing, you really have to
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: have something in your stomach with it when you take it.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: So just another thing to think about. But these are
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: all questions that a lot of times either people don't
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: take the time to ask. People don't know because they've
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: never thought of it and you wouldn't. Or providers are
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: just so busy. You know, there's so many providers that
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: you're in and out in five to 10 minutes. You know,
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: in psychiatry, I've heard patients are in and out in
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: five to 15 minutes. While our appointments can be short,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: you know, we generally try to see people 20 to
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: 30 minutes for a follow up. That's still short. But
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: if there's good dialogue, you're going to get some good
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: information and some good homework to go and do certain things.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: So make sure your provider is is listening. And if
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: you have somebody who just every time you go in
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: increases your medication or takes a medication away and starts
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: another one, just be sure they're really listening to you, right?
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, it could be okay to go up in
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: the dose. Definitely could be okay. And it could be
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: okay to change the medication because you're not getting a
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: good benefit or you're getting symptoms that are not positive.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: But if they're just talking and then writing and you
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: don't feel heard, and they're changing medications, and you're not
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: comfortable with that, make sure you find somebody that will listen.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Listening is the key to getting a really good treatment
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: plan going. And medication should be met with some type
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: of additional treatment, therapy, talk therapy, cognitive therapy, exposure therapy,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: trauma group support, maybe an intensive program like an intense
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: outpatient program, magnetic therapy, TMS, And along with all of that,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: you know, we talk about it here most often. What
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: are you doing for yourself? What things can you do
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: that don't require a prescriber? What are you putting into
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: your body? What are you doing to move your body?
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: What are you doing to work on rest? Okay. The
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: most challenges I find with patients are when they don't
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: work on themselves even a little bit. And it's important.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: It's important to make some modifications and some changes. You know,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: how can you expect to get better results if you
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: keep doing the same thing and don't try something different? Right.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Does that make sense? So in that case, it's just
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: really that important. It's that important. And I really want
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: you to get the best results. So let's let's try
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: those things. I don't see any current questions. So I'm
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: going to kind of move into, here's another thing. And
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: this is for your own resolve, resilience through the day.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: When you say you're going to do something, do it.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: When you say you're going to not do something, work
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: on it. And too often we get caught up in
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: other folks' ability to make or break our day. So
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: when you get roadblocks, you get barriers. I just made
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: the mistake of seeing an email pop up. And once again,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: it's almost as consistent as it can be. When you
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: get roadblocks, you get pushback, you know, you can shut down,
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  Speaker 1: you can make a choice. You know, you either have
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  Speaker 1: to work past it, work through it, but don't let
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  Speaker 1: it stop you from what your goals are. And I
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: think that's the biggest piece too. You know, as we
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: talk a little bit more, the other part of today is,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: you know, working through the challenges of You know, we
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: have to work and live with insurance. We have to
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: work and live through, you know, what's available to us
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: and the pharmacies and what they're willing to do. You know,
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  Speaker 1: they used to be so helpful. But nowadays, like I said,
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  Speaker 1: you're barely lucky if you can have the prescription ready
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  Speaker 1: and refilled. They don't have time to help and do
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: the things that they could and should do. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if I agree with that. But when it comes
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: to healing and your mental wellness, it's so important that
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: you take ownership. You know, what is it that's your
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: top priority? And you have to decide this for yourself.
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  Speaker 1: How do we do this? How do I get patients
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: to work through issues? I'll give you an example. And
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: maybe this will hit home to some of you. Patient
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: couldn't wait till their appointment. Things were going down. They
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: were really upset. A close family member, a boyfriend, they've
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: been in a relationship for a while, is having some
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: mental health issues. He's not nearby. He's staying out of
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: town with his parents in another state. And this poor
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: girl was just going out of her mind. She was
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: falling apart. She couldn't concentrate, couldn't work. She was emotional.
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  Speaker 1: She wasn't eating. When do we stop and realize you
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  Speaker 1: can't control another person, but if you're going to let
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: yourself be compromised and face sort of a demise, right?
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  Speaker 1: We don't want you to face a demise, but we've
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: got to be able to have ways to help you
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  Speaker 1: pull yourself up by the bootstraps, if you will. And,
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: find ways to lift yourself. And that's where we talk
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: about going outside and grounding. It's where we talk about
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: going and getting something good to eat. You know, those
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  Speaker 1: kinds of things. I need you to try to find
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: those things and start with the senses, the five senses.
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  Speaker 1: I need you to take a look at those things
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  Speaker 1: and find, What feels good or feels right to you?
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  Speaker 1: You know, what is it that you enjoy? I'll give
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  Speaker 1: you an example. What about do you like to garden
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  Speaker 1: or do you like to smell flowers? OK, if you
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  Speaker 1: like to do any one of those things, go do it.
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  Speaker 1: Stop what you're doing and go do something to take
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  Speaker 1: your mind off of what it is you can't control.
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  Speaker 1: For some of us, like you know, myself, y'all know, I'm,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty big into exercise and, and working out. Find
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: what you like. Maybe you're not active. Maybe you don't
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: necessarily enjoy working out or doing anything, but find something
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: you do like, do you like music? What if you
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: would just step away from what you're doing and go
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: about and turn music on, turn it up loud, close
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: your eyes and just be in the moment. Or even
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: take a minute away at your desk. I love YouTube.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Have you all explored YouTube? There's so
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: much on YouTube. I wish I was on YouTube, but
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: I'm not. Maybe one day. I have enough to do
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: right now. But it'd be great to get on YouTube,
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: put some videos up on YouTube. But on YouTube, you
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: can get a lot of education, a lot of information.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: You have to weed through some stuff. But generally, I
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: know when I'm looking on YouTube, I'm looking for things
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: a lot of times to help patients or work with
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: my trauma group. And there's great videos. They're short, they're quick.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Who doesn't have five minutes? Indulge yourself in a little self-care, okay?
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: This is easy self-care and you can do it at
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: your desk. You can do it on your phone. Type
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: in on YouTube a topic and listen to some good
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: information that's generally provided by different therapists, psychiatrists or whatever. Stress, anxiety, overeating, worry, grief, sadness, despair,
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: all those things. And then the other stuff that you
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: can find on there, if you don't need specifically something
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: like that, look for a relaxing video. Look for a
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: beach relaxing video or mountainous relaxing video. Have we ever
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: taken the time to bring nature inside? Look at a
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: video and just look at the beauty. I mean, there's
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: a lot of cool things out there that we can
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: be exposed to today as opposed to social media, all
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: the craziness, all the challenges. indulge in some beautiful things
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: that are there right at your fingertips on YouTube of
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: scenery and of nature. I usually start our trauma group
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: out with the relaxation and breathing. We do some stretches
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  Speaker 1: and I always put on a video and I'm always
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: amazed because I could sit there and watch the video
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: probably for the rest of the whole session with them.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: After we do our stretches and our breathing, I turn
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: it off and we go into dialogue. And sometimes we'll
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: use those YouTube videos as little snippets to learn, but
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: you all have literally toolkits of information at your fingertips.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: These podcasts, you know, these podcasts are saved and recorded.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: So if you're tuning in late today, or you want
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: to know what we started our topic on last week about,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: you know, pharmacies and big pharma and insurance companies, you
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: can go on to iHeartRadio, not YouTube. You go into
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and you can watch prior shows. I have four
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: years of prior episodes. You can really learn a lot
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: from all the little snippets that we've done every week
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: because we've been on every Thursday for the last four years.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: I can't even believe it's been that long. You need
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: to indulge yourself in self-care. And that's exactly what that is.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: It's self-care. And here's the thing. How much or how
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: often do you have downtime? You know, you get up
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: in the morning, you're getting ready to either go to
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: work or school. You're driving or riding. That's another 10, 15, 20,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: sometimes more, 30 minutes or an hour. Put something purposeful
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: into your head, right? Put something purposeful. And when you
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: do that and you put something purposeful into your head,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: you're going to fill your head with resolve, resiliency, and
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: ways to respond instead of reaction, repression, sadness, stress, anxiety.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: So use that as a tool, okay? There's a lot
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: of good resources. I often recommend a lot of other
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: folks to different books and podcasts. But start filling your
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: downtime or your I won't even call it downtime. But
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: when you have pockets of time that you can just listen,
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: start using that time. Subscribe to podcast. Listen on YouTube.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Jump in on iHeartRadio. Listen to some older stuff. You know,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: we've got the live podcast here for you every week
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: that you can listen to. But if you need to
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: follow up or you need to take notes, it's there
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: for you. And think about this. I also, you know,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: I can't believe we're running out of time again today.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: I get on those soap boxes, but we had great
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: questions today. When you take the time to fill your
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: toolkit and fill your head with things that are nurturing,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: and I tell patients this a lot, it's about training.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Don't tell me you're going to try to do something.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: I want you to do it kind of like Nike,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: but instead of Nike, just do it. Just take the
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: one simple word, train. Train yourself, train your brain, train
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: your mind, train your resolve, train your resiliency. And if
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: you're feeling bad, best person to help fix that is you.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: And then let us help you with the rest. So
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: those hopefully today were some helpful pieces of information. Every
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: week we've got different, you know, different tips or guests
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: or snippets we'd like to provide to give you a
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: really full toolkit of things to learn about. to be
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: aware in the community, to be aware in your world.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: I didn't talk too much today, but as it is
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: cold and flu season, and I am all about personal choice,
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: but I would certainly do a lot more to heal
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: myself holistically with good eating, nutrition, supplements, things like that.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: Go on to copperine.com. It's copper, I-R-N-E, copperine.com. And you
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: can get an amazing nasal mist that you get the
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: copperine and then they show you how to get the
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: little mister. And if you inhale the mist morning, afternoon,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: and evening, five seconds, you just mist and go, mist
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: and go two to three times a day, you will
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: not develop a lot of these cold and flu symptoms.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: And if you do get a cold symptom, it will
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: really help knock it out right away. The fact it
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: uses copper and zinc together is amazing. So look up copperine.com
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: and they'll give you 20% off if you use the
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: discount code of Magnolia, which is part of what I
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: do at Magnolia Bee Wellness. So copperine.com and use the
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: discount code Magnolia. Get it. I've been using it and
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: everybody around me has been sick. Knock on wood. I
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: feel resilient. I feel great. And really take your health
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: and your mental wellness seriously. Start focusing on you. Make
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: a list of things that you need to do for you.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Bring questions next week. We will be here next Thursday,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: 3 p.m. Eastern. It was great talking to you guys.
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  Speaker 1: Great questions today. And I look forward to seeing you
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  Speaker 1: all next Thursday. Take care.