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Speaker 1: Is the record it. Tonight's Bartaby Joyce on the Great
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Speaker 1: Melon Mess and more warnings of the housing crisis, Will
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Speaker 1: labor in peace now? Dump on the labor treasurer who
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Speaker 1: helped cause it? And how Donald Trump sent journals off
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Speaker 1: in a decoy plane to dodge and Iranian assassination plot.
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Speaker 1: And journalism lecturers. When you hear some of them, you
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Speaker 1: won't be so surprised that so many young journalists are
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Speaker 1: of the left, and plenty more, including Rowan Dean. But first,
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Speaker 1: the problem, the anthing they have an easy today is
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Speaker 1: the same problem we saw more seriously, of course after
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Speaker 1: the Bondo messacre last year. Flat footed, too slow to
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Speaker 1: react until too late, too proud, too stubborn, or in
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Speaker 1: this case, employee lacking class. Now, Albertizi has had more
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Speaker 1: than a month since he went on the bush Deep
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Speaker 1: Podcast of a Comedian to stop his boorish mockery of
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Speaker 1: Japan's Prime Minister Sanai A tuki Ichi and a melons
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Speaker 1: from turning into a diplomatic and political nightmare. Actually worn then,
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Speaker 1: you know, a month ago, and I think I was
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Speaker 1: the first to do so, that this could bite him
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Speaker 1: in the backside if he did not fix it. But
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Speaker 1: he wouldn't. He said nothing, which is a big mistake.
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Speaker 1: His look now has become a political and diplomatic nightmare
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Speaker 1: in four different ways, let me count them. One by
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Speaker 1: turning Takeyishi's gift of a ceremonial melon into a sniggering
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Speaker 1: joke about melons with hand gestures to suit albert Ez,
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Speaker 1: he has turned himself into a joke, a national joke,
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Speaker 1: a liar, and a sexist.
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Speaker 2: The Japanese prime minister brought a melon, got a couple
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Speaker 2: of melons, got a couple of melons.
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Speaker 3: He brought too, as you do.
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Speaker 1: Now. The second way, he's heard himself from the country
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Speaker 1: and is party. The labor women that Albinizi has since
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Speaker 1: sent out to defend him are trashing their own reputations
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Speaker 1: that they've got to know it. I mean, they are
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Speaker 1: claiming that you didn't see what you just did, and
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Speaker 1: they're looking like hypocrites. Albanies used to boast, Oh, look,
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Speaker 1: I've got twelve women in my cabinet. That's a majority
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Speaker 1: of the cabinet women, a record women power. But how
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Speaker 1: can any of us ever treat these female ministers seriously?
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Speaker 1: After this? These supposed feminists all now sent out to
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Speaker 1: defend their male master's melons joke and not one of
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Speaker 1: them calling it out.
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Speaker 3: I completely disagree with that interpretation. It is one hundred
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Speaker 3: percent wrong. The Liberals have absolutely lost the plot.
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Speaker 4: Trying to perpetuate this ridiculous, this ridiculous scene.
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Speaker 1: The Prime Minister has been very clear.
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Speaker 5: There has been some significant mischaracterizations.
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Speaker 3: The remarks in the Prime Minister have been misinterpreted. He
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Speaker 3: has enormous respect for women.
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Speaker 6: Appeared on a satirical podcast, and there are people trying
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Speaker 6: to blow that up.
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Speaker 1: There has been a sensationalized reporting.
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Speaker 4: Those opposite who have engaged, who are so desperate to score,
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Speaker 4: so desperate to.
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Speaker 6: Score political points, that they are confecting a diplomatic issue.
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Speaker 1: Hypocrits. Ladies, every single one of you. Now to the
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Speaker 1: third way that Alberze has heard himself, his party, and
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Speaker 1: his country. The Federal police are now on the case
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Speaker 1: after the Liberals at least asked them to check the
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Speaker 1: potentially unauthorized leaking of a confidential note that Japan privately
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Speaker 1: sent to Albaniz. He's saying, look, Taggi, she knew he
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Speaker 1: didn't mean. We're ill with his joke and assuring him
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Speaker 1: she wouldn't react. You know, now, I would bet my
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Speaker 1: house that Albiniams himself leaked that private note to defend himself,
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Speaker 1: you know, to imply, oh, Japan did really cares much
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Speaker 1: ado about nothing, and we told the senior Japanese official
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Speaker 1: has said now that the surprise he did that and
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Speaker 1: did in Albanez. He look shifty in parliament today, refusing
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Speaker 1: to say if he was the leak.
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Speaker 6: Can the Prime Minister assure the House that neither his
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Speaker 6: office nor his department leaked official and private correspondence from
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Speaker 6: the government of Japan And what steps has he taken
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Speaker 6: to satisfy himself that this is the case?
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Speaker 2: I knowe that in a political stunt from the opposition,
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Speaker 2: they have referred matters to the AFP.
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Speaker 3: The AFP is of course.
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Speaker 2: Completely independent of the government and they'll undertake their work.
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Speaker 1: And I'm confident and about that. He wouldn't say he
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Speaker 1: had licked it. He wouldn't say he hadn't. You know.
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Speaker 1: It's always the cover up that gets you, isn't it.
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Speaker 1: And now because Albanizi didn't act, he didn't apologize even
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Speaker 1: privately to Takiichi could bomb. That bomb this week exploded
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Speaker 1: in his face, a Takichi confident the former ambassadors to Australia.
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Speaker 1: So Takichi had never expected to be so casually mocked
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Speaker 1: by Alban Eazy, and now the news of his insult
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Speaker 1: is all over Japan. Here are some of the news
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Speaker 1: stories have found from the Assasi sim Shimbound, perhaps in
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Speaker 1: Japan's most serious newspaper, Australian Prime Minister allegedly made sexually
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Speaker 1: suggestive remarks regarding melons gifted by Takichi. From Fuji Television,
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Speaker 1: a major private TV network, Australian Prime Minister's comment that
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Speaker 1: Prime Minister Takichi brought to melons sparks outrage, sexual jokes,
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Speaker 1: betray the bond, issulting and thoughtless. From Jiji Press, a
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Speaker 1: leading news agency, prime Minister's remarks sparked controversy over allegedly
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Speaker 1: mocking the melons presented by mus Taichi, and so on
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Speaker 1: and on. That's the fourth way he has heard us,
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Speaker 1: of course, I mean, how does that now make Australia
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Speaker 1: look to Japanese voters, to its business leaders, to its politicians,
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Speaker 1: especially these days when Japan was already warning that Australia
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Speaker 1: seemed an unreliable supplier of gas. And also now when
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Speaker 1: you've got Albanezi having skipped a dinner a Parliament house
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Speaker 1: meant to mark the fiftieth anniversary in Australia Japan Friendship
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Speaker 1: and Cooperation Treaty, skipped it and instead ducked into another
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Speaker 1: room in Parliament at the very same time to go
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Speaker 1: and have fun at a Spotify event. Now that's the
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Speaker 1: music streaming service we're he posed next to a Spotify started,
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Speaker 1: How exciting? How taki? How taky is all of this?
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Speaker 1: And you wondered, now, how did Les Patterson become our
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Speaker 1: prime minister? Even down to clutching a whiskey glass while
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Speaker 1: making jokes about a woman's melons in Alberanze's case of
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Speaker 1: that disastrous Bush Deep interview where even the podcast title
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Speaker 1: is a double entione. And after all this aban is
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Speaker 1: he not even trained to fix the damage, just trying
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Speaker 1: to get away with telling you that, oh, you didn't
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Speaker 1: see what you just did see, just like he claimed
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Speaker 1: you didn't see him actually falling off that stage. Now,
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Speaker 1: memo to Albanezi, Look, some people might believe you, but
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Speaker 1: many don't, and they now include a lot of Japanese
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Speaker 1: from their Prime minister down. So even if you think
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Speaker 1: you've done nothing wrong, there is plainly now something you
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Speaker 1: must fix in our relations with our fourth biggest trading partner,
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Speaker 1: and fixed with Japan's Prime minister. Yet even today in Parliament,
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Speaker 1: Albnizi just could not say sorry.
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Speaker 7: Millions of Australians have now seen with their own eyes
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Speaker 7: the Prime Minister's appalling behavior on the Bush Deep podcast.
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Speaker 7: Now he embarrasses all of us by refusing to apologize
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Speaker 7: to the Prime Minister of Japan. Why won't the Prime
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Speaker 7: Minister stop treating us like fools? Man up and say
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Speaker 7: sorry to the Prime Minister of Japan.
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Speaker 2: My office and my team have spent four years carefully
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Speaker 2: rebuilding our relationships you. We take our relationships seriously, including
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Speaker 2: our regular engagement with Japan.
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Speaker 1: No, you don't. Now. Some will say that this is
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Speaker 1: mountain out of a molehill? But does Japan think that?
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Speaker 1: Does this prime minister think that? Do the women Albanese's
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Speaker 1: cabinet who've trashed their reputations to protect him? Do they
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Speaker 1: think that sorry? It could be the hardest word, but
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Speaker 1: even harder than that is what you can get when
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Speaker 1: you don't say it. But you know, I've got to
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Speaker 1: be honest here. One reason that there's now belatedly in
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Speaker 1: many cases, so much fuss about Albanese is melon's joke
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Speaker 1: is that I've got to say the whole thing is
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Speaker 1: just funny as well. I mean, even the word melons
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Speaker 1: is funny. And women especially seem to be enjoying putting
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Speaker 1: the boot in and doing that you know, jiggly thing
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Speaker 1: with their hands. Take One Nation leader paul In Hansen today.
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Speaker 8: Right, okay, what's happened? Has the Prime minister drop dead
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Speaker 8: or what? Over the melons? It's discussing what he's done,
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Speaker 8: and he cannot apologize and that is not leadership. If
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Speaker 8: you get it wrong, you call it out and you
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Speaker 8: say I got it wrong. And now it's gone on
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Speaker 8: saying well they are only cheap melons. They weren't even
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Speaker 8: worth while putting in pecuniary of interest. And then he
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Speaker 8: said it was only still originally we find out now
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Speaker 8: it's been four he's lied, lied and lied.
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Speaker 1: Joining me is our regular commentator and One Nation MP
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Speaker 1: Barnaby Joyce, the former Deputy Prime minister. Barnaby, Great to
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Speaker 1: see you again. You know it's a great standard. You
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Speaker 1: always ask what would the other side have made of this?
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Speaker 1: If you had done what they have done. If Barnaby
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Speaker 1: Joyce had done what Albaneze did, what do you think
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Speaker 1: those twelve women in Albanize's cabinet who are now covering
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Speaker 1: up for him being still what would they say about you?
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Speaker 9: It would be catastrophic. They would be lined up on
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Speaker 9: every media platform. They would be screaming for my resignation
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Speaker 9: from parliament. They would be on every social media influencer
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Speaker 9: or whatever you want to call I would be a misogynist.
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Speaker 9: I would be disgraceful. I'd be everything under the sun.
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Speaker 9: But the way out of it is to be Anthony Abernezi.
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Speaker 9: I'm incredulous, incredulous what we have. We had a man
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Speaker 9: in his sixties with a T shirt on, sitting behind
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Speaker 9: a three quarter drunk bottle.
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Speaker 1: Of whiskey.
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Speaker 9: With a lady dressed up like a elephant hunter, talking
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Speaker 9: about and the double N taunt, straight after saying he
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Speaker 9: wanted to shag a woman, then saying who was also famous?
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Speaker 9: We also know that, and then saying that you know
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Speaker 9: the melon issue, and then saying no, I didn't do it.
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Speaker 1: I didn't do it.
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Speaker 9: I mean, I just what alternate universe is the Prime
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Speaker 9: Minister of Australia living in He's made a fool of himself.
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Speaker 1: He's made a full of us.
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Speaker 9: And now where's the contracte Prime Minister coming up and saying, look,
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Speaker 9: I had that was really foolish what I did.
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Speaker 1: I'm really sorry.
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Speaker 9: If I had my time again, I would never have
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Speaker 9: done it. Yes, I got carried away with myself, and
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Speaker 9: I profusely apologize to the Prime Minister of Japan. I
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Speaker 9: apologize to the people of Australia that I let you
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Speaker 9: down as well doing that.
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Speaker 1: But we don't get that.
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Speaker 9: We just get this continual circus. So now he goes
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Speaker 9: on to the side that he didn't do it.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know.
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Speaker 9: I don't know, am I Are we all living in
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Speaker 9: an alternate universe? You didn't do it? I mean, mate,
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Speaker 9: we watched you. I turned down the volume and it
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Speaker 9: made perfect sense to me. Before I turned the volume up,
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Speaker 9: it made perfect sense to me what you were saying.
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Speaker 9: It's just I wished you hadn't said it. That's a
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Speaker 9: big strategic partner in defense. Fourth figures economy in the
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Speaker 9: world are the counterbalance to communists China, and you're making
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Speaker 9: sort of puerile discussions on a puerile platform about a
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Speaker 9: very dignified lady who is incredibly.
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Speaker 1: Important to us. I got to say too bad a bit.
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Speaker 1: Look it told me through this because I agree, you know,
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Speaker 1: saying sorry would have been the quickest way out that said.
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Speaker 1: In politics, it does you pay a price for saying sorry.
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Speaker 1: They've got you on camera, they've got you on the record.
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Speaker 1: It's an admitted fault, comes up in the campaign ads,
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Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. Is saying sorry in politics actually
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Speaker 1: so deadly that you don't dare say it.
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Speaker 9: Well, Peter Bety didn't think so. I mean he stayed
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Speaker 9: premier forever. He made an art form saying sorry.
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Speaker 1: You got it right, yep.
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Speaker 9: And I think, yes, you do pay a price, you
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Speaker 9: pay a couple of bad days in the media, and yeah,
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Speaker 9: it might get brought up later on. But where we
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Speaker 9: are now is vastly worse for the Prime minister because Pete, like,
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Speaker 9: I don't know what the group is of people who
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Speaker 9: believe him, but I'd suggest it's small and you're dead
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Speaker 9: right is excruciating Watching Tanya and Tanya Clever, second Penny
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Speaker 9: Wong and the whole coterie of other strong feminists going
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Speaker 9: out and saying nothing to see here. It's just like
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Speaker 9: the whole world's gone mad. And I tell you there's
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Speaker 9: one guy who is kind of happy about it. And
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Speaker 9: his name is Mark Butler. I reckon he's pretty happy
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Speaker 9: about it. Jim charm is probably not too bad because
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Speaker 9: they'd be all starting to circle now, starting a circle.
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Speaker 1: Now. No, I would have thought Tony Burke. I would
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Speaker 1: have thought Tony Burke, that's what mayl I'm getting. But
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Speaker 1: maybe you're right. I think Mark butt is actually doing
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Speaker 1: good job provided he backs his rhetoric with actions. So
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Speaker 1: we shall see in the health Department, particularly the NDAs.
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Speaker 9: I'll tell you I'm getting overwhellus down and without avail,
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Speaker 9: you'll be happy about it.
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Speaker 1: Watch him. Oh, he'd be seeing a chance, he'd be
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Speaker 1: seeing a chance. Oh no, no, I'm with you, but
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Speaker 1: bun to me. All these polls, all these poles, it's
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Speaker 1: just confusing. And I've got to say I'm confused. After
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Speaker 1: our own News twenty four Pulse poll came out today.
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Speaker 1: Surprised me. Last week Red Bridge pole that one Nation
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Speaker 1: is the most popular party, the Coalition way behind. On Monday,
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Speaker 1: News poll had one Nation tied with Labor. The Coalition
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Speaker 1: gets again way behind. But today's news twenty four pole
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Speaker 1: has one nation in orange on the graphic, plummeting from
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Speaker 1: thirty percent a month ago. We got the different graphic anyway,
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Speaker 1: thirty percent a month ago, so just twenty four percent now,
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Speaker 1: four points behind Labor and just two ahead of the
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Speaker 1: Coalition that somehow sowed from a catastrophic seventeen percent a
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Speaker 1: month ago to twenty two Now big changes, like I say,
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Speaker 1: surprise me. So I guess I'm going to have to
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Speaker 1: wait until a new pole to see if there's a pattern.
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Speaker 1: But what does your own polling suggest? Have you really
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Speaker 1: lost the fifth of your vote in just a month? No, no,
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Speaker 1: we haven't.
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Speaker 9: And what I what I'd suggest, First of all, it's
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Speaker 9: hubrist is to decide that a poll is a vote,
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Speaker 9: their pole is a pole that's taken on the issues
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Speaker 9: of the day. I would say that there are basically
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Speaker 9: three major parties. There's the Labor Party, Nation and the
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Speaker 9: Coalition and within that block will we determine the future
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Speaker 9: government of Australia. And that's that's what I take away
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Speaker 9: from it, And it means that we have to do
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Speaker 9: the very best job we can every day to show
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Speaker 9: to the Australian people that even with the limited resources
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Speaker 9: we have nearly six people in the Parliament and only
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Speaker 9: a handful of advisors. We have to match up to
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Speaker 9: the Labor Party with its four hundred and eighty advisors
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Speaker 9: and the Coalition with its near ninety advisors, and we
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Speaker 9: do a remarkably good job.
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Speaker 1: So we're working as hard as we can and well,
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Speaker 1: maxim more agile, doesn't it mex more agile that baud
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Speaker 1: it because you can throw the volts, you know, the
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Speaker 1: better all volks working from one side of the road
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Speaker 1: to the other. Whereas you're driving a great big bus
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Speaker 1: full of people behind them, or you know, backseat driving,
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Speaker 1: it's a little hard to be nimbled in. But can
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Speaker 1: I just ask you before I've run out of time
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Speaker 1: to another huge government bailout of a business using taxpayer
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Speaker 1: money Tomica tomorrow the Albany and New South waleses Labor governments,
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Speaker 1: so they're going to reportedly announce a one billion dollar
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Speaker 1: bailout of the Tomago aluminium smelter that's in the Hunter
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Speaker 1: Valley in the labor seat of Patterson, which Labor, by
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Speaker 1: the way, not unrelated to this, could lose at the
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Speaker 1: next selection. And what's more, the one thousand odd workforce
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Speaker 1: heavily unionized Barnaby one union from the labor right too,
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Speaker 1: from the ruling labor left, and they've put big pressure
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Speaker 1: on labor to cough up. Do you think those two factors,
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Speaker 1: the marginal seat and the unions helps to explain this
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Speaker 1: massive bailout of a private business with public money.
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Speaker 9: Well, let's first of all say why it has to
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Speaker 9: be bailed out. Because Rio Tinto has done a greater
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Speaker 9: assessment on Australia's energy policy than anybody else and has
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Speaker 9: decided we are completely and utterly off our chops and
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Speaker 9: they are leaving because energy prices are ridiculous, So they
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Speaker 9: know more about anybody or how your intermittent power of
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Speaker 9: windmills and solar panels is going de industrializing this nation.
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Speaker 1: You are making it weaker.
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Speaker 9: Issue number two, A billion dollars won't do it. I
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Speaker 9: want Tomogo to survive and a billion dollars is a
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Speaker 9: band aid on an amputation. And unless you deal with
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Speaker 9: the actual issue, which is energy prices, this is going
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Speaker 9: to really be a slight reprieve before the ultimate finale
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Speaker 9: that energy prices have sent tommygo broke or not tomicgo broke,
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Speaker 9: but made it unviable at it's not going broke. So
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Speaker 9: and the unions there they've come up with the unions
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Speaker 9: rather than fighting for a package, should be fighting for
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Speaker 9: a package. And to get rid of net zero, get
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Speaker 9: rid of the Paris Agreement, get rid of this imbit house,
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Speaker 9: get rid of the capacity investment schemes, and then Tommy
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Speaker 9: Goo will survive. But until and get rid of the safeguardment.
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Speaker 9: Don't forget otherwise it's ridiculous here you earn money, right,
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Speaker 9: You're right that the government c that work bound Toby.
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Speaker 1: How many smell dos have already had their hand out
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Speaker 1: and and the others lining up knowing that the governments
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Speaker 1: that they've got the government over a barrel, right, I
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Speaker 1: think this is about the fourth or fifth fourth I
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Speaker 1: think bailout. I mean it's just too much as Taxpa's money.
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Speaker 1: Barnaby Joyce, thank you so much for your time. After
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Speaker 1: the break, the housing crisis just got worse. I mean,
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Speaker 1: what will labor in pace now do the treasure of
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Speaker 1: Jim Charmers for getting this so wrong? Now, this house
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Speaker 1: in crisis keeps getting worse. I know, that house prices
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Speaker 1: were too high. But falling this fast and by so
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Speaker 1: much is dangerous. And the Reserve Bank yes that I
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Speaker 1: said there's more to come. That's the wealth of six
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Speaker 1: million Australians we're talking about now. One problem with this
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Speaker 1: huge fall is that, as a Reserve Bank also said,
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Speaker 1: it means fewer homes get built just when we need
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Speaker 1: so many more of them. The profit to build them
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Speaker 1: isn't quite there now. And look today the come withth
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Speaker 1: Bank I boarded a fifteen percent fall in loan applications
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Speaker 1: since the May budget when the Albanizi government broke its
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Speaker 1: promise and hit us with higher housing taxes. Join me
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Speaker 1: is the political panel. Camer Milner from the chief of
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Speaker 1: Staff to Labor leader Bill Shorten now director of g
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Speaker 1: xo's strategies, and Michael Koshler, former New South Wales Labor
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Speaker 1: Treasurer Cameron A few houses being built when we need more,
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Speaker 1: big fallen house prices. This is not what treasure Jim
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Speaker 1: Chalmers promised with his budget. No it wasn't.
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Speaker 10: And this Albany's Government's putting the boot into homeowners and
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Speaker 10: anyone whose wealth is connected to a house and a
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Speaker 10: part they own. Has seen it being absolutely trashed since
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Speaker 10: budget night. That's what the CBA said, That's what west
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Speaker 10: Pac said as well, Andrew. And the problem here is
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Speaker 10: that the government's got a trillion dollars worth of public
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Speaker 10: debt and have smashed the house value of Australians by
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Speaker 10: one point two trillion. One point two trillion dollars has
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Speaker 10: been lost because of Albanese's budget disaster for houses, And
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Speaker 10: to your point, it's mums and dads for making houses
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Speaker 10: for renters. The government isn't doing anything anywhere near enough
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Speaker 10: lifting work in terms of building enough houses. It's mums
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Speaker 10: and dads who are building rental properties across Australia and
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Speaker 10: have done so and they're getting you know, absolutely in
21:13
Speaker 10: the neck and you know, and as I say, the
21:15
Speaker 10: government's taking a boot to homeowners.
21:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's weird though, Michael. The way the governments are
21:21
Speaker 1: answering this is just crazy. They're not they're training not
21:25
Speaker 1: to say that their policies have done much about to
21:30
Speaker 1: cause this and to interest rates, foreign uncertainty, etc. On
21:33
Speaker 1: the other hand, they're saying, but look, you know we
21:36
Speaker 1: are looking after first home bars. Houses are cheaper. They
21:39
Speaker 1: can get into the market if they can actually find
21:41
Speaker 1: a house for sale. Now, what is this? Is this
21:44
Speaker 1: a terrible mistake and uh no, worry, no wonder they
21:48
Speaker 1: don't want to admit it, or is this exactly what
21:50
Speaker 1: they planned? And why don't they admit it?
21:53
Speaker 11: Well, Andrew, I don't think they planned this at all.
21:57
Speaker 11: And again, to me, it's more of you know, bagged
22:00
Speaker 11: bog charmers trying to spin it to his desired narrative
22:04
Speaker 11: given that has blown up in his face. You know,
22:06
Speaker 11: he went from saying that these changes in the budget,
22:09
Speaker 11: and let me say that some of them could have
22:11
Speaker 11: been implemented in a more sensible manner and would have
22:16
Speaker 11: been better policy. They stuffed up the implementation of these
22:19
Speaker 11: policies and we know that. But he's gone from saying
22:21
Speaker 11: that I have no effect, remember that two dollars a
22:24
Speaker 11: week on rents and slowing growth of house prices over
22:30
Speaker 11: the forward estimates of around two percent a year to
22:34
Speaker 11: saying that this was his desired effect. Now, you know
22:37
Speaker 11: he's in trouble when he's claiming the thing that blew
22:39
Speaker 11: up in his face is what he wanted to do
22:41
Speaker 11: and is trying to spin it that way. I mean, look,
22:44
Speaker 11: the rental market is the one that I'm really concerned
22:47
Speaker 11: about because you know, if you ain't a home, you
22:49
Speaker 11: can sort of ride out the cycle. But if you're
22:51
Speaker 11: in rental, and more and more people are in rentals,
22:54
Speaker 11: this has blown up right in their face. They went
22:57
Speaker 11: from two dollars a week. I mean, the average Sydney
22:59
Speaker 11: rent's gone up fifty dollars a week, not two dollars
23:02
Speaker 11: a week. So you know, we've got real problems there.
23:04
Speaker 11: In the RBA's forecasts yesterday, Andrew blew all of the
23:08
Speaker 11: budget assumptions out of the water, every single one of them.
23:13
Speaker 1: I think it's a real problem.
23:15
Speaker 12: Now.
23:15
Speaker 1: The government's saying these are short term fluctuations, you know,
23:19
Speaker 1: just write it out for a few months and you
23:20
Speaker 1: know she'll come good. Maybe it will, maybe it won't.
23:23
Speaker 1: But given all this, Cameron, given all this turmoil and
23:29
Speaker 1: the blown assumptions, are you picking up any concern in
23:33
Speaker 1: labor among labor MPs that Jim Charmers taxes are causing
23:38
Speaker 1: more pain than predicted and they're not happy it's causing them
23:41
Speaker 1: a problem.
23:43
Speaker 10: Oh look, Chalmers has got a huge problem with labor Caucus,
23:46
Speaker 10: a huge problem. I mean he promised them a budget
23:48
Speaker 10: of reform and it's been an absolute disaster. We look
23:50
Speaker 10: at the member for Sturt only last week writing to
23:53
Speaker 10: her constituents saying Jim Chalmer's got it wrong. I mean
23:56
Speaker 10: she's a Labor backbencher and she's actually writing Charmers out.
24:00
Speaker 10: Chalmers has a huge problem. His credibility is shot from
24:03
Speaker 10: this budget and I think his ambition to be Primaries
24:06
Speaker 10: of Australia he's massively diminished, if not potentially taged forever
24:10
Speaker 10: in terms of what he's brought down in May this year.
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Speaker 1: What do you think, Michael, what does this mean for
24:18
Speaker 1: Charmer's future? And he seemed to be a sue in
24:22
Speaker 1: to be the next leader. Now I wouldn't want to
24:25
Speaker 1: bet on that.
24:26
Speaker 12: Well.
24:27
Speaker 11: I've never been a fan, as you know, Andrew, because
24:29
Speaker 11: I think that he really is not qualified for the
24:32
Speaker 11: job that he's doing. He just doesn't understand economic growth
24:35
Speaker 11: and the principles behind it. He's certainly good at spinning
24:38
Speaker 11: a line, or was initially in the position, but he's
24:41
Speaker 11: no longer seen as even being good at that. Look
24:44
Speaker 11: I unfortunately, but your listeners and viewers are not going
24:48
Speaker 11: to like this. I think this just consolidates Albo's position
24:51
Speaker 11: I just don't see any of the people that are
24:53
Speaker 11: around at the moment having any chance given the factional
24:56
Speaker 11: structure of knocking off Albo. I think he's there for
24:59
Speaker 11: as long as he wants ago And you know, even
25:02
Speaker 11: those preferred prime minister polls would give him some sort
25:05
Speaker 11: of comfort against the rest, So I think he's there
25:08
Speaker 11: for the long rule.
25:11
Speaker 1: And what about Michael Cameron, what about Albinize's female ministers
25:19
Speaker 1: or all of them having to defend his joke about
25:22
Speaker 1: Japan's prime minister. They cannot be happy to make fools
25:27
Speaker 1: of themselves like that for him.
25:31
Speaker 10: Well, no, absolutely not. I mean Albo's angels, they're all
25:34
Speaker 10: out there today. Albo's angels, weren't they defending the indefensible.
25:37
Speaker 10: I mean the prime minister looked, the Prime Minister on
25:39
Speaker 10: that podcast looked like a sleeze bag and a dirty
25:42
Speaker 10: old man.
25:43
Speaker 1: Quite frankly, that's what he was. I mean, he was
25:45
Speaker 1: insulting and appalling as a joke.
25:48
Speaker 10: But not only that, I mean the actual melon fruit
25:50
Speaker 10: gift was actually a high cultural value from Japan. What's
25:54
Speaker 10: missed in this, Andrew, is the fact that diplomatically it's
25:56
Speaker 10: an absolutely insult to say it was the worst possible
25:58
Speaker 10: gift he's ever received. I mean in Japan they're given
26:01
Speaker 10: as gifts of high value and meeting between friends, and
26:05
Speaker 10: that's what the Japanese Prime minister was doing. So no,
26:07
Speaker 10: I mean, not only does he look like a sleeze bag,
26:10
Speaker 10: but he looks like a cultural diplomatic ignoramus. That's the
26:13
Speaker 10: problem with Albo in terms of whole melingate situation.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got to in fairness say, look, he was
26:20
Speaker 1: asked what was the worst gift you were ever given?
26:22
Speaker 1: And he actually produced this melon's thing. But then he
26:26
Speaker 1: did say it ended up quite good. But I don't
26:28
Speaker 1: know whether he just realized, oh I just stepped in
26:31
Speaker 1: a Landmarin. I do not know. Michael. I talked before
26:35
Speaker 1: about the Tomago deal to be announced tomorrow, A billion
26:39
Speaker 1: dollars of taxpace money to save this smelter. Worked it
26:41
Speaker 1: out for every worker employed directly or indirectly. That is
26:45
Speaker 1: two hundred thousand dollars per man or woman. That's huge money.
26:52
Speaker 11: Well, Andrew, I think Barnaby Joyce was right on this.
26:55
Speaker 11: It's not that amount. It's much more than that. They're
26:58
Speaker 11: talking about on energy having a subsidy of anywhere between
27:02
Speaker 11: three one hundred million to five hundred million a year.
27:06
Speaker 12: Now that can't stop.
27:07
Speaker 11: That's the reality because you know aluminium is forty fifty
27:12
Speaker 11: percent electricity, So how are they going to stop that subsidy?
27:16
Speaker 11: So you can quadruple that figure that you're talking about.
27:20
Speaker 11: I think that's a been over two or three years
27:24
Speaker 11: and continue for the life of the smelter.
27:26
Speaker 12: Having said that, I mean, you know we do need
27:28
Speaker 12: these smelters. We need them as part of our defense
27:30
Speaker 12: industry program. You know, we're trying to build some marines
27:33
Speaker 12: and ships and everything else, and we need aluminium. And
27:37
Speaker 12: you know they've just created a disaster with their energy policy.
27:40
Speaker 12: And by the way, this is the reason why up
27:42
Speaker 12: here in the Hunter people are flogging to one nation.
27:45
Speaker 12: They're de industrializing across the board. It's not just there,
27:48
Speaker 12: it's in the minds and everything else that's associated the
27:50
Speaker 12: small businesses. So that's why you're seeing one nation go up.
27:53
Speaker 12: But it's more than a billion dollars.
27:55
Speaker 1: Andrew, but Cameron, you know we were so disciplined. You
28:02
Speaker 1: saw it in the Victorian Parliament, right, Victorian labor where
28:06
Speaker 1: as soon as Justiner Allen is blown out the door
28:09
Speaker 1: because the radies aid are terrible and they've got to
28:11
Speaker 1: go to someone else because they're going to get slaughtered.
28:13
Speaker 1: And suddenly I know she was wrong in this. I
28:15
Speaker 1: wasn't part of that decision. It was all wrong. We're
28:17
Speaker 1: going to change everything. We're going to rethink working from home,
28:19
Speaker 1: We're going to rethink a royal commission. We're going to
28:22
Speaker 1: do this all differently. Is behind the scenes. Do you
28:26
Speaker 1: detect behind the scenes a sense that from Labor in
28:30
Speaker 1: Pece so the government is completely on the wrong track?
28:35
Speaker 10: Sorry, I think in Victoria Ben Carroll doing a really
28:38
Speaker 10: good job. So, I mean I think he's actually given
28:39
Speaker 10: Labor a chance at the state election. Allen was gone
28:41
Speaker 10: for all money. Karrol will give them a chance federally. Yes,
28:44
Speaker 10: I mean I just come back from the UK and look,
28:46
Speaker 10: Andy Burnham has just replaced her sitting in the Prime
28:48
Speaker 10: minister in Kirstarma, who was elected on a massive majority
28:51
Speaker 10: simply because at the end of the day, after two
28:53
Speaker 10: years in government, he didn't look like he had answer
28:55
Speaker 10: to anything and no one liked him. The polls are
28:58
Speaker 10: terrible and doesn't that sound for me? I mean, Albow's
29:00
Speaker 10: the same su of Doldrums to your point before, Michael,
29:03
Speaker 10: I don't think the factions move against him, but the
29:05
Speaker 10: numbers certainly are.
29:08
Speaker 1: Michael Cossa, Kameron Milner, thank you very much to you both.
29:12
Speaker 1: After the break. The truth about that is Muslim prayer
29:16
Speaker 1: at the Bondeau massacre site. I mean, how naive are
29:24
Speaker 1: Australians still after Bondai, especially if you're of the left.
29:31
Speaker 1: Now at the end of the city to serve run
29:34
Speaker 1: in Sydney last weekend Sunday, this bloke and Muslim was
29:38
Speaker 1: pictured in his running gear with Free Palestine printed on it,
29:41
Speaker 1: praying apparently at the memorial to the Bondau dead people
29:45
Speaker 1: killed by allegedly ISNAMUS terrorists out to kill Jews. Now
29:50
Speaker 1: you've got a lot of people quite naturally, particularly in
29:52
Speaker 1: social media, so well, how disrespectful was that? This was
29:56
Speaker 1: a power move and you can guess the rest. But
30:00
Speaker 1: then you've got the apologist saying no, no, no no,
30:03
Speaker 1: this was a prayer for peace, a tribute quite touching Kumbaya.
30:08
Speaker 1: Well blog Dreu Pavlu. I've heard him on the show
30:11
Speaker 1: a few times. He's tracked the guy down on social media.
30:14
Speaker 1: We can't find out his name still, but turns out
30:16
Speaker 1: it's from Ireland, and he's a man that doesn't sound
30:20
Speaker 1: to me to have peace and love to old Jews
30:23
Speaker 1: on his mind. For one, he's recited a lovely poem
30:27
Speaker 1: he's done about the Bondoi massacre being an Israeli false
30:32
Speaker 1: flag operation. My focus is on Bundo. It was a
30:37
Speaker 1: real false flag. Their weapons are grief so that they
30:41
Speaker 1: can flow their rag. And how genuine is his devotion.
30:48
Speaker 1: I mean he posted an apology for that terrible attempt
30:51
Speaker 1: at a Muslim prayer, but it was an apology not
30:53
Speaker 1: to Jews, but to Muslims.
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Speaker 13: My skin should be covered more as a prayer. As
30:59
Speaker 13: a Muslim. I was just have to running a race.
31:01
Speaker 13: I just walked up to the monument and it just
31:03
Speaker 13: felt right at the time. So I'm really sorry if
31:06
Speaker 13: any Muslim is looking at this and it's horrified by
31:10
Speaker 13: the way I'm praying.
31:15
Speaker 3: I'm not pointing in the right direction either.
31:21
Speaker 1: Shorts on pointing in the wrong direction anyway. Joining me
31:24
Speaker 1: is Rowan Dean had Sort, Chief of The Spectator Australia,
31:26
Speaker 1: host of Outsiders every Sunday at nine am, and host
31:29
Speaker 1: of his own show on Fridays at seven pm. Busy
31:33
Speaker 1: Guy Rowan, this Irish chap in Australia. I mean, it
31:40
Speaker 1: makes you wonder how we let such people in. Well.
31:44
Speaker 14: I don't know about the particular individual, but he seemed
31:48
Speaker 14: more concerned about having upset Muslims through his stunt or
31:53
Speaker 14: his genuine prayer than upsetting the people who were probably
31:58
Speaker 14: most upset by it, which we've were Jewish Australians to
32:03
Speaker 14: be at Bondi wearing Free Palestine gear is in itself
32:08
Speaker 14: pretty offensive to.
32:09
Speaker 3: A lot of people.
32:09
Speaker 14: I would have thought, you know, the Bondei massacre was
32:13
Speaker 14: done in the name of Islam.
32:17
Speaker 3: To then sort of prey in front of the memorial.
32:20
Speaker 1: You know.
32:20
Speaker 14: Okay, whoever this guy is, whatever he's done, it doesn't
32:23
Speaker 14: strike me that he was either incredibly stupid or he
32:26
Speaker 14: was incredibly provocative and is taking the mickey out of
32:31
Speaker 14: the rest of us. Okay, that's fine. But the bigger issue, Andrew, is,
32:35
Speaker 14: as you said at the beginning of a show, and
32:36
Speaker 14: relationship to something else.
32:37
Speaker 3: Imagine if it was reversed.
32:40
Speaker 14: Imagine if a bunch of Christians or Jews some sacred
32:45
Speaker 14: place for out in the Kember or wherever where there's
32:48
Speaker 14: a mosque and there's something or like that. You know,
32:50
Speaker 14: it would be deemed outrageous and offensive and all the
32:52
Speaker 14: rest of it. But again, there's a bigger issue than that,
32:55
Speaker 14: And I was thinking about this the other day. We
32:58
Speaker 14: talked a lot in recent way weeks about multiculturalism.
33:02
Speaker 3: We haven't talked much about multi faith.
33:05
Speaker 14: When I was a kid, my mother was a scriptures teacher,
33:09
Speaker 14: a religion teacher, and she taught. It was in the
33:12
Speaker 14: seventies and it was, you know, multi faith was the
33:15
Speaker 14: big issue of the day, and ecumenical movements were keen
33:19
Speaker 14: on bringing people together.
33:20
Speaker 3: And it was a very good movement.
33:22
Speaker 14: It brought Protestants and Catholics together, It brought Jews and
33:24
Speaker 14: Christians together, and so on, brought Buddhists and Muslims. That
33:27
Speaker 14: brought everyone under the same umbrella. But at what point,
33:32
Speaker 14: you know, in the same way that we debate multiculturalism,
33:35
Speaker 14: and at what point does it kind of spill into tribalism.
33:39
Speaker 14: Has multi faith worked? Has it really worked in Australia,
33:43
Speaker 14: I don't think so. It certainly hasn't worked in Europe,
33:46
Speaker 14: where you see basically Islam becoming a very dominant religion
33:51
Speaker 14: and not really interested in the multi multi faith world.
33:55
Speaker 14: At all, but rather being a dominant.
33:57
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's I made. I've seen it trying
34:01
Speaker 1: to cover up go into this cottonwool, fluffy kittens, soft
34:07
Speaker 1: white clouds, green grass, smartiest for everyone kind of vision.
34:12
Speaker 1: All religions are actually the same, we all pray to
34:15
Speaker 1: our the same guy, but in a different way, completely false.
34:19
Speaker 1: They are very different religions, sometimes antagonistic. And you mentioned
34:23
Speaker 1: did it work. I read about a Jewish guy. I
34:28
Speaker 1: think you might have been a rabbi in Melbourne after
34:32
Speaker 1: all this September eleven stuff and his interfaith group. Not
34:36
Speaker 1: one person in it from the Muslim faith ran him
34:39
Speaker 1: to commiserate, not one, So he wrote a letter somewhere
34:43
Speaker 1: about it. I mean, there you go. But talking about
34:45
Speaker 1: people driven a little extreme by the ideology of the
34:49
Speaker 1: left row and the ABC, this won't surprise you. Has
34:53
Speaker 1: been wowed by a part of who's given up flame
34:56
Speaker 1: because of the missions, global warming and all that saying.
35:00
Speaker 1: I was just looking at the amount of fuel that
35:02
Speaker 1: was ordering for each flight. I got to the point
35:04
Speaker 1: where I just thought, I don't think I can in
35:08
Speaker 1: clear conscience amidst the climate situation we're facing be part
35:11
Speaker 1: of the industry anymore. But Ryan has now turned to
35:14
Speaker 1: baking instead, not seem to care much that the baking
35:17
Speaker 1: involves ovens and the bakery that employs him there ovens
35:21
Speaker 1: burn wood and lots of it. Why did't the ABC
35:25
Speaker 1: pick up that point?
35:27
Speaker 14: Well, the ABC wouldn't wouldn't understand the irony of that point.
35:32
Speaker 3: You know, the ABC is struggling to.
35:35
Speaker 14: You know, they they seem to be struggling to find
35:38
Speaker 14: their feet at the moment.
35:39
Speaker 3: The ABC, but you know, this.
35:41
Speaker 14: Bloke doesn't seem to understand that him not flying doesn't
35:45
Speaker 14: mean that the aeroplanes won't still be flying. And it's
35:48
Speaker 14: the carbon emissions from the aeroplane, not from the fact
35:50
Speaker 14: that he's the pilot of it. That is something that
35:54
Speaker 14: the climate cult is more concerned with.
35:57
Speaker 3: But I think it also goes to what's really depressing.
35:59
Speaker 14: We're talking about religion a moment ago is the way
36:02
Speaker 14: climate ism is a religion.
36:05
Speaker 3: It's the modern religion. It's all about faith and morality.
36:10
Speaker 14: So you're a you know, my conscience wouldn't let me
36:13
Speaker 14: fly the aeroplane.
36:14
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a ludicrous statement.
36:16
Speaker 14: The arrogance of thinking that the one plane you're flying
36:20
Speaker 14: is somehow going to lead to armageddon in fifty years
36:24
Speaker 14: time or whatever. But there is this morality that has
36:27
Speaker 14: been forced down people's throats and into the minds of many,
36:30
Speaker 14: many people who genuinely believe that climate change is an
36:35
Speaker 14: issue a question of morality. It was Kevin Ryd, that
36:38
Speaker 14: genius who told us that it was the greatest moral
36:41
Speaker 14: issue of our time. I'm not sure if he still
36:43
Speaker 14: believes that. But it's sad to watch but the ABC
36:47
Speaker 14: carry on pushing this sort of stuff. They think this
36:49
Speaker 14: is terrific, how wonderful, what a great moral guy this
36:53
Speaker 14: person must be. And it's kind of sad and pathetic,
36:57
Speaker 14: particularly when you know you're just discussing with the Michael
37:01
Speaker 14: and Cameron. We have people going out of work because
37:03
Speaker 14: of the climate cult. We have huge people losing their jobs.
37:07
Speaker 14: This country de industrializing itself because of the climate culture,
37:10
Speaker 14: because of this so called question of morality. How many
37:13
Speaker 14: people have to lose their jobs, How many people have
37:15
Speaker 14: to go without a livelihood, How many businesses have to
37:18
Speaker 14: go bankrupt to satisfy the virtue signaling morality of the
37:23
Speaker 14: climate cult.
37:23
Speaker 3: It seems there's no end to it, and that is
37:27
Speaker 3: the real.
37:27
Speaker 1: Trial would you be well, absolutely, we won't know because
37:32
Speaker 1: for a long long time, because all the catastrophe is
37:35
Speaker 1: still to really break over our heads. But you're right,
37:37
Speaker 1: it's a religion, say sort of mantra repent for the
37:40
Speaker 1: end of the world as nay, be good. You know
37:43
Speaker 1: they've staying from sin. Bless you the whole thing. That's
37:46
Speaker 1: just a different form a pan indulgence. Thank you so
37:49
Speaker 1: much for your turn, and by your carbon credits. Indeed,
37:54
Speaker 1: thank you so much, Roan. After the break, Donald Trump
37:58
Speaker 1: sends journal us off on a decoy plane so he
38:01
Speaker 1: can escape an Iranian plot to kill him. Donald Trump
38:09
Speaker 1: has said a thousand times is destroyed Iran militarily. But
38:14
Speaker 1: now we've learned that the president's security officials were so
38:18
Speaker 1: worried by reported Iranian threat against them last months to
38:23
Speaker 1: NATO meeting in Turkey, that when he left the country,
38:26
Speaker 1: they first made him go to his new Air Force
38:29
Speaker 1: one the presidential plane, wave goodbye, shut the door, while
38:33
Speaker 1: the journalists following him around went up the backstairs of
38:37
Speaker 1: the plane. While they were doing that, Trump left the
38:40
Speaker 1: plane by a catering truck underneath it, which then secretly
38:44
Speaker 1: drove him to another plane behind the one you see there,
38:48
Speaker 1: you probably see just passed the wheels over there. Journalists
38:51
Speaker 1: weren't told that they were on what's now being called
38:54
Speaker 1: a decoy plane while Trump flew ahead of them to Britain,
38:59
Speaker 1: and then quietly he joined them on a third plane.
39:02
Speaker 1: Not that Trump wanted them to think they had been decoys.
39:07
Speaker 1: It's only up to Secret Service.
39:08
Speaker 7: I just follow what they'd like to do, so I
39:11
Speaker 7: go by Secret Service.
39:13
Speaker 1: And the military.
39:15
Speaker 14: They wanted me to go on a different flight, a.
39:17
Speaker 1: Different plane, equal safety, but they wanted me to do it,
39:22
Speaker 1: so I do it. I do what they say.
39:24
Speaker 14: The track.
39:26
Speaker 1: I guess there was a thread out there. I didn't
39:28
Speaker 1: really ask so much about it.
39:30
Speaker 12: I get a lot of threats.
39:34
Speaker 1: Joined me at gemonton NINNI Columns and Communications because Southern
39:37
Speaker 1: Carolina russa commentator and president of the West Astralian Liberals.
39:40
Speaker 1: I gotta say, it's not a great look for Trump,
39:43
Speaker 1: although I accept that, you know, he he's the main man,
39:47
Speaker 1: and he's going to follow the advice. But Jurna's going
39:50
Speaker 1: one way, go shoot them, and he going the other.
39:53
Speaker 1: Not sure well, I mean.
39:55
Speaker 5: The practical reality, Andrew is that he does have to
39:58
Speaker 5: follow what the Secret Service says and what the military says,
40:01
Speaker 5: and it is it's bizarre, but also in this current
40:05
Speaker 5: political environment, completely believable and not bizarre. How I would
40:10
Speaker 5: feel if I was a member of the White House
40:13
Speaker 5: Press courts and on the so called decoy flight. I
40:16
Speaker 5: don't know that i'd feel so great about that, because
40:18
Speaker 5: you're essentially just you know, like flying bait, flying shark
40:23
Speaker 5: bait in the sky. But the threat must have been
40:27
Speaker 5: present and credible for the decision to take that action
40:31
Speaker 5: to have been taken to have been made.
40:35
Speaker 1: I think there'd been some questions asked about that. You
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Speaker 1: forgive him, don't you, Caroline.
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Speaker 4: Well, yes and no, I mean selfishly, I'd also like
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Speaker 4: to not die in an aeroplane. So I take that
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Speaker 4: view read Trump, and I can understand if the Secret
40:50
Speaker 4: Service gave him that advice. But I also can't really see,
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Speaker 4: if you know, if once his plane had taken off,
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Speaker 4: the journal has taken off that plane and perhap put
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Speaker 4: on another, so they weren't the flying shark bait as
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Speaker 4: Jemma Pudden.
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Speaker 3: So I think that.
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Speaker 4: Probably could have been done a little better, could have
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Speaker 4: been done differently, Andrew. But as far as the President
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Speaker 4: not wanting to die in the Secret Service, not wanting
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Speaker 4: that on their hands, particularly after the criticism they came
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Speaker 4: after when he was shot before the last election, or
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Speaker 4: there was that attempt at assassination attempt before the last election.
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Speaker 4: I can understand why the Secret Service would be being
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Speaker 4: very cautious.
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Speaker 1: I just see sorry, with no alert to you beforehand,
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Speaker 1: no warning, I just see The ABC's ombitsman has apologized
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Speaker 1: herself to Gina Einhardt for the ABC segment that fantasized
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Speaker 1: about you know, saying, no, I got to tell you
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Speaker 1: this is really weird. She says the ombitsman thee we
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Speaker 1: regret that this content didn't meet your expectations.
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Speaker 4: Your expectations not an apology.
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Speaker 5: That's the boy you make up with. All the girlfriend
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Speaker 5: whos the case may be, but that is the part
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Speaker 5: that that you break up with when they say I'm
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Speaker 5: really sorry, I belchied you around the head, but you
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Speaker 5: made me mad. That's not an apology.
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Speaker 3: That is just peak. Ab set is incredible. Every single
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Speaker 3: person in.
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Speaker 5: Like, what is the point of genuinely, what is the
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Speaker 5: point of them if they're coming out with trap like that. Ourselves,
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Speaker 5: Let's say we're really sorry that your upset that we
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Speaker 5: belted you around the head. We're sorry that that made
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Speaker 5: you angry, like it is not credible.
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Speaker 1: It is not I thought, it's not grown up.
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Speaker 3: It is not respect, it is not.
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Speaker 1: It's not taking responsibility. I would have thought, Karen, the
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Speaker 1: bare minimum would not be the same. I regret that
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Speaker 1: the content didn't meet your expectations. I would have thought
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Speaker 1: the minimum for the ABC would say, we're so sorry
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Speaker 1: that content didn't meet our expectations and our obligations, and
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Speaker 1: we are going to have a long, hard look at
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Speaker 1: ourselves because this cannot stand. That's an apology.
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Speaker 12: That was not.
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Speaker 4: No, that was not an apology. That was absolute Toddle.
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Speaker 4: It's our expectations in a sense, they're not irrelevant, but
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Speaker 4: their secondary What is your obligation? What are you required
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Speaker 4: to do? And that is all set out in the charter.
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Speaker 4: It should be saying we didn't meet the charter and
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Speaker 4: we apologize. Is that there could be done in a sentence,
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Speaker 4: And obviously I haven't seen it. You've just raised it.
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Speaker 5: Now.
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Speaker 4: Look, I'm sure that there is a full page of
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Speaker 4: waffle that goes along with that non apology, and you
43:53
Speaker 4: can put as much waffle in a statement as you like, Andrew,
43:57
Speaker 4: but it still does not make it an apology for there,
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Speaker 4: you know, so far below the bar.
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Speaker 3: It's not an apology.
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Speaker 5: It's I think we're really really worried and we're wetting
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Speaker 5: our pants about the size of the potential legal bills
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Speaker 5: if we don't try and do something like that's what
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Speaker 5: that is.
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Speaker 1: That is. But if you're write that, you write that,
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Speaker 1: there's no contrition, right that adds to the costs listening
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Speaker 1: back home? Well, she would know, she would know. I
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Speaker 1: realy the most extraordinary opinion piece, yes she does. A
44:37
Speaker 1: really amazing opinion piece in the Citny Morning Hero by
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Speaker 1: a long term journalism lecturer, Jenna Price, who is furious
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Speaker 1: for the ABC apologizing for screening that film about doing
44:48
Speaker 1: you know what's a Gina Reinhart with a stick saying,
44:52
Speaker 1: you know that's the ABC bowing to the wicked Murdock media,
44:55
Speaker 1: which means meet you, Caroline. I wonder why News Corp
45:01
Speaker 1: Hates the National broadcasters. This now retired journalism lecturer always
45:07
Speaker 1: about money. The ABC gives away free what News struggles
45:10
Speaker 1: to get people to pay for now Jemba, I've long
45:14
Speaker 1: worried about the hard left bias for so many journalism lecturers.
45:17
Speaker 1: Here again Jenny Price telling you, I don't criticize the
45:21
Speaker 1: ABC for giving aways suffer free, as I have said
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Speaker 1: a hundred times, at least I criticize the fact that
45:26
Speaker 1: I am forced by law to subsidize a national broadcaster
45:31
Speaker 1: hijacked by the left and running a political campaign so
45:34
Speaker 1: often and smears against consertis like Junia Reinhart Jemma. It
45:39
Speaker 1: scares me that this woman taught journalists for many years.
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Speaker 5: Well, I had a read of that column when it
45:45
Speaker 5: came through earlier, and I didn't really like it, you know,
45:49
Speaker 5: to each her own, but it was kind of like
45:51
Speaker 5: a whole bunch of word salad to me, like, you know,
45:54
Speaker 5: like the typical This was the stereotypical you know, news
45:59
Speaker 5: Corp is evil kind of diatribe from the left that
46:02
Speaker 5: has no objectivity, rationality, or even accuracy to it. I mean,
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Speaker 5: like the laughability that newscorps struggles to get people to
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Speaker 5: pay for subscriptions. From what I've read on readily accessible,
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Speaker 5: publicly available media, in the paper I write for, and
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Speaker 5: many many others, that is just not the case. My
46:21
Speaker 5: first job, Andrew, was with the ABC in Karratha in
46:24
Speaker 5: nineteen ninety five. So I'm giving away my agent'ls. I'm
46:27
Speaker 5: fifty three years old. The first story I ever got
46:30
Speaker 5: paid to write was about the Panawonka dunny Derby. It
46:34
Speaker 5: was small beginnings, but that was in the day where you,
46:37
Speaker 5: as a young journalist, as I was, you aspired to
46:40
Speaker 5: work for the ABC. It was a different organization. I
46:42
Speaker 5: didn't know really the politics of the people I was
46:46
Speaker 5: working for and with at that time. And I look
46:47
Speaker 5: at it now and I think it has.
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Speaker 15: Abandoned the fundamental objective and directive for anyone who is
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Speaker 15: a working journalist, and that is to be fair, an
46:58
Speaker 15: objective to report what's happened without fear or favor, and objectively.
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Speaker 3: None of this activism.
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Speaker 5: You cannot be an activist and be a journalist at
47:08
Speaker 5: the same time.
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Speaker 3: You cannot.
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Speaker 5: You can go work for a bias baby, you can
47:11
Speaker 5: go work for a set like an industry paper or.
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Speaker 3: An organ well.
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Speaker 1: I don't know, do you know what I mean though?
47:16
Speaker 5: But if you're working for.
47:18
Speaker 1: I don't want to say yeah, no, I know what
47:19
Speaker 1: you mean, but I don't want to be I don't
47:21
Speaker 1: want to sound ultra defensive here, but the point is,
47:24
Speaker 1: I think there's an implicit bias or a set of
47:26
Speaker 1: beliefs that informs even a question you ask, the priorities
47:29
Speaker 1: you set on, you know what you describe, the topic
47:33
Speaker 1: you raise. I think it's implicit. But as long as
47:36
Speaker 1: you're fair, and with the ABC, that's particularly so in
47:39
Speaker 1: that it has because it gets money from us, all
47:42
Speaker 1: it must represent us all so, and by the way,
47:45
Speaker 1: she'll be fair to Jenner Price. I worry about the
47:48
Speaker 1: journalists she teaches if that conspiracy theory is a sample
47:51
Speaker 1: of the work. But you must Caroline bump across this
47:56
Speaker 1: all the time they're reporting on the liberals, given that
47:59
Speaker 1: you are, you know, state president.
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Speaker 4: Yes, of course, And I mean the gena Ryan Hard example.
48:06
Speaker 4: And as we've just established, there hasn't actually been a
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Speaker 4: proper apology, So I'm not quite sure what she's got
48:11
Speaker 4: a Nickersina not about about expectations not being well whatever
48:16
Speaker 4: the pretend apology was. So I think it's probably a
48:21
Speaker 4: little over sensitive. But you know, the conversation that we've
48:24
Speaker 4: had on this show in relation to the Japanese Prime Minister,
48:28
Speaker 4: in relation to Kylie Minogue, in relation to a whole
48:31
Speaker 4: bunch of issues we always know that if it's in
48:34
Speaker 4: relation to a coalition member of Parliament, it is always
48:37
Speaker 4: going to be dealt in much than the Labor Party.
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Speaker 1: Everything very true. Got to go, ladies. Thank you so much.
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Speaker 1: Alw it's lovely to talk to you. Gem Toni, Carolyndarussa,
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Speaker 1: thank you very much. Coming up next, Sherry Marxon. Good night,