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Yes, "Too Soon" Is a Thing · The Wes Carroll Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: The news, opinions, commentary and interviews. You need to start
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  Speaker 1: your day and you're listening to the West Carrol Morning Show.
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  Speaker 2: Thursday morning, fourteenth day of May. I'm wes, thanks for
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  Speaker 2: joining me. Inching our way towards the weekend. Not quite
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  Speaker 2: there yet though, but we're making it, zipping right along.
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  Speaker 2: As my good friend Scott Miller would say, we're zipping
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  Speaker 2: right along through this week and man, another day closer
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  Speaker 2: to school, wrapping up this school year that you know,
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  Speaker 2: you don't want to wish them away. You don't want
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  Speaker 2: to wish those years with your kids away. But some
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  Speaker 2: school years you're just ready to be done with for
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  Speaker 2: the kids and get on into their summer and I
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  Speaker 2: know it'll be a blink and they'll be back in
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  Speaker 2: school again. But this is just one of those years
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  Speaker 2: we're just kind of ready for it to be done.
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  Speaker 2: I'm spoken to some other parents that feel the same way,
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  Speaker 2: but they've kind of had some of the same experiences
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  Speaker 2: that we've had. So that's where we are. The roast
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  Speaker 2: of Kevin Hart. It just happened recently, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: typically those roasts to me are pretty funny. I'll you know, yes,
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  Speaker 2: there are times where people certainly go too far in
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  Speaker 2: some of the roasts, and the humor is it's just
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  Speaker 2: a bit much. And you know, as a bit of
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  Speaker 2: a humorist myself, who's been known to go a little
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  Speaker 2: far with jokes, there is a point where I draw
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  Speaker 2: the line. There's a point where I go, it's too much.
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  Speaker 2: This is this is funny, and then you go a
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  Speaker 2: little too far. I've got a couple of friends, one
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  Speaker 2: friend in particular, one of my closest friends in the
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  Speaker 2: whole world. He's like a brother to me, and he
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  Speaker 2: and I will often we'll start kind of on this
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  Speaker 2: path where we're kind of writing a joke and we've
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  Speaker 2: got this idea and we're just kind of bouncing it
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  Speaker 2: back at each other and we'll take turns. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: not officially, but it's kind of just riffing an idea,
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  Speaker 2: brainstorming out an idea, and we just kind of go
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  Speaker 2: a little bit too far. We both Eventually one of
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  Speaker 2: us gets there and the other goes, ooh, okay, well
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  Speaker 2: that's the limit. And that's when we know, when at
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  Speaker 2: least between the two of us, the joke goes too far,
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  Speaker 2: there's no reason to dwell in it anymore. It's over.
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  Speaker 2: We've exhausted the joke because one of us went just
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  Speaker 2: a little bit too far, And our attitude is typically like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we've kind of exercised the whole thing, and
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  Speaker 2: now we can exorcise that joke that went too far,
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  Speaker 2: and we typically don't talk about the joke when it
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  Speaker 2: goes too far. We both know that that was the
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  Speaker 2: point when the joke stopped being funny and started to
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  Speaker 2: be mean or it started to be inappropriate in some way,
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  Speaker 2: and then we just kind of say, all right, And
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  Speaker 2: there's a process to that. If you've ever worked in
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  Speaker 2: a creative field, working in radio around a lot of
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  Speaker 2: creative types, you basically have you know people that when
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  Speaker 2: you have a brainstorm session and you kind of bounce
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  Speaker 2: some ideas and you really truly try to encourage in
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  Speaker 2: that stage that there are no bad ideas. Just bounce
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  Speaker 2: them around and we're not going to be judgmental. We're
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  Speaker 2: just going to float some stuff out and we're going
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  Speaker 2: to see if anybody hit something. And some of the
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  Speaker 2: absolute best ideas that I had in programming radio at
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  Speaker 2: some time would come from those kind of ideas, and
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  Speaker 2: some of the ideas were absolutely ridiculous, but you just
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  Speaker 2: kind of throw it out there and you think there's
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  Speaker 2: no way that we're going to be able to get
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  Speaker 2: away with this idea, and then you know it gets
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  Speaker 2: approved and then you do it, and then you think
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  Speaker 2: that was a memorable thing, and you know, glad that
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  Speaker 2: we did that process. And then there were times where
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  Speaker 2: we would have an idea and we would would go
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  Speaker 2: through the same sort of thing. We'd kind of bounce
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  Speaker 2: ideas around. We'd come up with this thing that we'd go,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know if we're going to
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  Speaker 2: get away with this one, and then ultimately someone from
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  Speaker 2: legal gets involved and they go, you absolutely cannot do this.
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  Speaker 2: This is not a good idea. And then we think, okay, well,
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  Speaker 2: maybe this time our process didn't work, like we did
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  Speaker 2: not get to the point where we realized that was
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  Speaker 2: a bit too much. Now I still stand by some
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  Speaker 2: of those ideas. They were good ideas. It just someonet
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  Speaker 2: at legal decided no, you're not going to do that,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, fair enough, that's their job. Their job
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  Speaker 2: is to not get the company sued. Our job is
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  Speaker 2: also to not get the company suit. I say that
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  Speaker 2: just to lay it out there for this roast where uh,
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  Speaker 2: there were several topics that should have been considered, uh
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  Speaker 2: just you know, just things that you wouldn't want to
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  Speaker 2: talk about. And I know that there's this, uh, there's
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  Speaker 2: this concept that it's comedy. You just got to go
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  Speaker 2: for it. If you don't like it, don't don't watch it,
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  Speaker 2: don't listen to it. A few handful of jokes, and
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  Speaker 2: I haven't watched the whole thing. The handful of jokes
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  Speaker 2: that I saw that I found uh to have gone
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  Speaker 2: too far made me not want to watch it. And
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  Speaker 2: I usually enjoy these things. So for me to not
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  Speaker 2: watch it, it was just too much. It was too much.
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  Speaker 2: I don't we're I don't think we're at a point
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  Speaker 2: where Charlie Kirk jokes are okay. I just think that
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  Speaker 2: that's that's still you can say too soon, that old
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  Speaker 2: joke about too soon. I remember once someone made a
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  Speaker 2: joke a comment and about what's the line about other
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  Speaker 2: than that missus Lincoln. I was the play. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: you make that joke when it's still fresh, that's not
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  Speaker 2: an okay joke. You make that joke all these years
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  Speaker 2: later you can say, well, it was an American president
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  Speaker 2: and you just say, but you know, I don't think.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think we still have you know, survivors, you know,
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  Speaker 2: living the trauma of that. But you can make a
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  Speaker 2: case that even that's not appropriate. It was an American president
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  Speaker 2: for crying out loud. Some argue our best American president.
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  Speaker 2: So I understand that there are times when people might
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  Speaker 2: make a joke and you feel like you could defend it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that anything Charlie Kirk related is defensible
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  Speaker 2: at this point. And honestly, you know, likewise, there there
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  Speaker 2: were George Floyd jokes in there, and I think that
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  Speaker 2: because you know, they're roasting Kevin Hart, who's black, they
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  Speaker 2: feel like if he laughs, then you know it's okay.
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  Speaker 2: And there were certainly people who criticize Kevin Hart for
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  Speaker 2: laughing at any of the George Floyd jokes. And there
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  Speaker 2: were you know, Israel jokes, Zion joke, there were things
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  Speaker 2: in there that you just go, what are we doing here?
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  Speaker 2: And I understand that people are going to defend their
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  Speaker 2: right to say it, their right to call it comedy
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  Speaker 2: and all those things. And sure, you know, when you
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  Speaker 2: have a freedom of speech, you have a freedom to
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  Speaker 2: say things that even people don't like, but it still
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't make it okay. It doesn't mean that in
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  Speaker 2: in our society that we're trying to have that those
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  Speaker 2: jokes are okay. And I look, I'm a very strong
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  Speaker 2: advocate for some jokes. Like there's two guys I don't
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  Speaker 2: remember what their site's called, the two guys that have
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  Speaker 2: a page that they've done where it's a white guy
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  Speaker 2: and a black EYI they're best friends and they take
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  Speaker 2: each other to things that are typical of their group.
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  Speaker 2: And it's like, I'm taking my black friend to, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Talladega for a NASCAR race, or the black friend says,
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  Speaker 2: I'm taking my white friend to the barbershop kind of deal.
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  Speaker 2: And then I think sometimes they work an Asian guy
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  Speaker 2: into it and our Asian friend, and I think that's
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  Speaker 2: the kind of humor and comedy that comes out in
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  Speaker 2: that that we need more of, because you know, they
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  Speaker 2: went to Cracker Barrel in one and you know, there
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  Speaker 2: were some jokes made at the expense of Cracker Barrel.
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  Speaker 2: There was some jokes made at the expense of white people.
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  Speaker 2: There was some jokes made at the expense of black people.
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  Speaker 2: But I think that's the kind of thing when it's
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  Speaker 2: done in the spirit of kind of, you know, tearing
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  Speaker 2: down some of the stereotypes and getting past some things.
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  Speaker 2: And some would argue that that's not okay, And I
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  Speaker 2: get that. I do that. Some people feel that way,
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  Speaker 2: so I know it's all about taste. I get that.
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  Speaker 2: I just think it's soon for the Charlie Kirk thing.
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  Speaker 2: It's really soon. And I think that because we are
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  Speaker 2: definitely still in a culture of people that think that
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  Speaker 2: that was okay and that it should be done, and
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  Speaker 2: there's just some things that shouldn't be joked about. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know that that's ever really okay. I mean, and
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  Speaker 2: I know that there have been people who have made
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  Speaker 2: jokes about other people that have been considered martyrs. And
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  Speaker 2: no matter where you stand on the conversation about Charlie
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  Speaker 2: Kirk as a martyr, Look, some people feel that way,
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  Speaker 2: some people don't. But it's a bit much, even the
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  Speaker 2: George Floyd stuff, it's it's a bit much. So anyway,
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  Speaker 2: I say that because this happens, and then you know,
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  Speaker 2: we've had this stretch now in this month of May
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  Speaker 2: where we have had and it's not a true one
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  Speaker 2: to one segue, but it's worth pointing out as they're
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  Speaker 2: making these jokes that would be at one time called
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  Speaker 2: anti semitic. And by the way, the people involved this
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  Speaker 2: is like the kill Tony group. These are the people
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  Speaker 2: that you know, work out of you know, Joe Rogan's
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  Speaker 2: place in Texas, and you know these people that everybody's saying, hey,
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  Speaker 2: these are the guys that have their finger on the
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  Speaker 2: pulse of things, and that they're part of the group
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  Speaker 2: that helped get Trump reelected and all these things. So
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  Speaker 2: they're going to get criticism in that regard somebody, but
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  Speaker 2: they just feel like sometimes they're trying to push back
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  Speaker 2: in the other direction. You know, that Drusky guy, he's
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  Speaker 2: kind of part of some of these guys, and and
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  Speaker 2: he has you know, he did the thing where he
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  Speaker 2: dressed up like Erica Kirk and was kind of mocking her.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, again, no, it's just not okay. And
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  Speaker 2: I say that with the anti Semitic stuff that was
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  Speaker 2: in there, the or just anything kind of referencing Israel,
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  Speaker 2: and they were calling Chelsea Handl Handler a Zionist and
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  Speaker 2: making jokes about all of that, and you know, it's
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  Speaker 2: just worth noting one, we do still have people that
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  Speaker 2: are trying to kill our president for similar reasons that
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  Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk was killed. So and we still have people
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  Speaker 2: that are defending the killer, the Luigi Mangione guy for
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  Speaker 2: killing the healthcare CEO and taking his life because oh
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  Speaker 2: it's justified. But a couple of days ago, like guys
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  Speaker 2: in masks marching in Jewish neighborhoods, chanting and intimidating and
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  Speaker 2: threatening and and uh in some cases they said they
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  Speaker 2: were grabbing and and uh, you know, screaming at children
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  Speaker 2: and it had to it was supposed to be disrupting. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: I guess some kind of a real estate thing. And
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  Speaker 2: they just were going through the neighborhood and and trying
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  Speaker 2: to and they're screaming out, you know, uh, holding their
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  Speaker 2: hesbal of flags and and then and that was in Brooklyn,
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  Speaker 2: and then in Manhattan it's happened that they call them
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  Speaker 2: a mob, using the term mob. In Park East at
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  Speaker 2: the Parky Synagogue and again screaming out, you know, death
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  Speaker 2: to the IDF. No Zioni is here demonstrators fighting police
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  Speaker 2: and people that we're trying to go in and out
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  Speaker 2: of the synagogue. Also, this month's swastika sprayed on a
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  Speaker 2: synagogue homes and that was in Queens. So this anti
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  Speaker 2: Semitism thing with this rise that's happening, and now that
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  Speaker 2: we've also learned, you know, Southern poverty law kind of
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  Speaker 2: funding some of this stuff in the past, not these
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  Speaker 2: specific riots and things, but you know, trying to fund
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  Speaker 2: some things that are supported by you know, white nationalists
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  Speaker 2: and things. And not that these are white nationalists, but
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  Speaker 2: these are all things that certainly are on the radar
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  Speaker 2: of Jewish people. Let's just be honest here, and if
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  Speaker 2: you start talking about you know, white nationalists, Nazis, obviously
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  Speaker 2: if you are Jewish, you're gonna certainly say this my problem.
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  Speaker 2: And on top of that, now we now have this
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  Speaker 2: Pennsylvania Supreme Court justice who has broken away from the
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  Speaker 2: Democrat Party and he's basically saying we have a problem
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  Speaker 2: in the Democrat Party with this rise. And he issued
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  Speaker 2: a statement about and this is Justice David Weck ran
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  Speaker 2: as a Democrat elected in twenty fifteen, and he basically said,
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  Speaker 2: from nineteen ninety eight to two thousand and one years
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  Speaker 2: that preceded my judicial career, I served as vice chair
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  Speaker 2: of the Pennsylvania Democratic Party in the quarter century that
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  Speaker 2: has passed. Since then, the Democrat Party has changed. Nazi tattoos.
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  Speaker 2: Wonder who he's talking about there, Jihata's chance, intimidation and
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  Speaker 2: attacks on synagogues, other hateful anti Jewish invective and actions
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  Speaker 2: are minimized, ignored, and even coddled. Acquiescence to Jew hatred
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  Speaker 2: is now disturbingly common among activist leaders and even many
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  Speaker 2: elected officials in the Democratic Party. And this is just
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  Speaker 2: part of the reasons why he's decided he needed to
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  Speaker 2: step down. He said, I can no longer abide this,
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  Speaker 2: so I won't, so I am no longer registered with
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  Speaker 2: any political party. It is my hope that Pennsylvanians and
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  Speaker 2: Americans of all viewpoints and backgrounds will oppose and resist
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  Speaker 2: the scourge of Jew hatred before it undermines what our
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  Speaker 2: ancestors have built here. And then, of course John Fetterman
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  Speaker 2: has sounded off on this, basically saying, I know David
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  Speaker 2: and his legendary father Cyril. This was on X as
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  Speaker 2: I've affirmed I'm not changing my party, but I fully
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  Speaker 2: understand David's personal choice. Again, you get John Fetterman, being
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  Speaker 2: a voice of reason who saw that coming. He said
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  Speaker 2: the Democrat Party must confront its own rising anti Semitism problem. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: it absolutely should. And the fact that we still have
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  Speaker 2: a number of Democrat registered Jewish Americans that aren't going anywhere.
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  Speaker 2: They're not going to leave the party. They that's the
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  Speaker 2: party that they have been associated with, and it is
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  Speaker 2: an opportunity now to take a moment look at what's
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  Speaker 2: happening and make a decision about whether or not they
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  Speaker 2: should continue to vote that way and support that party.
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  Speaker 2: That's the only way to get their attention is by
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  Speaker 2: showing them at the ballot that you are not on
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  Speaker 2: after the break. We talked about elements of this on
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  Speaker 2: a show a couple months back. I think it was.
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  Speaker 2: that social media connections with strangers were linked to higher
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  Speaker 2: levels of loneliness. Interestingly, interacting online with people you do
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  Speaker 2: know didn't make loneliness worse, but it didn't really help either.
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  Speaker 2: Experts say part of the problem is social comparison and
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: online They say it's easy to idealize other people's friendships,
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  Speaker 2: especially when there's no real world context to balance it out.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: It's just more proof social media is not a replacement
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: for face to face connection and that real world relationships
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  Speaker 2: still matter a lot. Did a whole show on this
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  Speaker 2: about how there's a maximum number of people that you
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: can actually have in your life that is a beneficial
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: relationship of some kind, friendships, acquaintanceships, whatever they are. And
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: you kind of hit a point where there's a cap
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: there and then the other people beyond that you're not
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: really even capable having a meaningful relationship with. And I
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  Speaker 2: think this ties in to this so interesting though. And
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  Speaker 2: then also the fact that even the people that you
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  Speaker 2: know on there, you're not really truly necessarily connecting with them,
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  Speaker 2: and that's that's a problem, right. Maybe you feel like
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  Speaker 2: you're connecting with them, but you're not really actually doing that.
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  Speaker 2: And it's a good idea occasionally to you know, maybe
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  Speaker 2: sit down and have a meal together or a drink
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: or whatever it is, and really and truly catch up,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: like face to face. A lot of talk about AI,
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  Speaker 2: and I know we just had this instance where at
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  Speaker 2: a graduation AI got brought up in the graduate's bood. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: way to go. Kudos to them for that, and I
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: wish there was more of that. I understand the benefits
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: and perks of something like AI, but the fact that
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: it has become the go to for basically eliminating jobs
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: and creating more responsibilities for people, that's a reason for
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: brand new college graduates to boo it. And we've had
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: this conversation about there's some jobs that just won't be
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: affected by AI, and I know that there are some,
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: but one of the ones that I think people are
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: constantly saying will not be affected by AI, I think
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: it may have already been in some ways. And I
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: don't know that it means you're going to be able
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: to eliminate the job or the career field anytime soon,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: but it does feel like it's already having an impact
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: in some way. And that's medicine. People say, oh, we're
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: gonna always need doctors, We're gonna always need people to
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: diagnose things well. There's some new Pew research that says,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: according to a study, about half of people under the
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: age of fifty are not just and this isn't specifically AI,
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: but they turn to the internet for wellness tips, even
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: social media influencers. And it to me feels like that's
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: one skip away, one tiny step away from just going
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: to AI. And people are turning to AI for it,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: but diet, exercise, mental health, and these are people that
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: aren't doctors, and you're getting information from people who have
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: no business in many cases dishing out wellness tips. And
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: some will actually say that they are health care care
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: professionals when they're not. Some describe them as coaches, some
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: just say I'm an entrepreneur. But many of the influencers
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: on Instagram than TikTok and then YouTube, and people say
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: these influencers are helping to make topics easier to understand
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: and motivate lifestyle changes. Trust being mixed, some people saying
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: that they only believe some of what they see, and
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: influencers being a big part of the picture. Doctors remain
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: the top source for health information, and that showing social
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: media hasn't replaced it just yet, but it does feel like,
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: and I've done this, there have been a few things
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: where I've thought, let me just let me kind of
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: ask some specific details. I was able to take my
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: next surgery and go to AI and say, explain exactly
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: what the procedure involves in detail, and it was able
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: to explain it greatly, and my doctor, my surgeon, had
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: done a great job of explaining exactly what was going
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: to happen, exactly what the procedure was. But AI was
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: able to give me some other very detailed things in
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: there that I was able to break down. And I
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: even mentioned it to my surgeon. This wasn't a case
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: of saying I don't need you, I just need this. However,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: and I know someone something like a surgeon, something like
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: someone who's got to do a procedure on you have
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: some kind Obviously it's going to take transferring things over
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: to some kind of a cyborg or robot or whatever
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: to be able to do all of those things without
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: the help of actual bodies. But just kind of feels
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: like that career may not be white as safe as
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: we once maybe thought it was, or we kind of
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: still think it is. That'll do it for this Thursday edition,
• 26:06
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  Speaker 2: you for listening. I'll catch you back here tomorrow morning.
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