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  Speaker 1: All Right, Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here
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  Speaker 1: at Gilette Stadium and we're watching Paul and I the
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  Speaker 1: stay tuned with Patriots dot com for all the Combine
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  Speaker 1: news as it relates to the Patriots. And uh, Deuce
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  Speaker 1: will be calling in I think around one o'clock, so
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  Speaker 1: he'll give us a live update of what's going on
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  Speaker 1: over there. Uh. Paul and I are here in studio
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  Speaker 1: with Matt Evan and Deuce are in Indie along with
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  Speaker 1: no Tamaris not I don't know where she is, um,
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  Speaker 1: but the rest of our crews out there and we're
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  Speaker 1: covering the Combine from a Patriots perspective. Obviously. I just
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  Speaker 1: saw Nick Assario was at the podium. We saw Josh
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  Speaker 1: McDaniels earlier at the podium, and uh, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: think based on what he said, didn't kill the Matt
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  Speaker 1: Patricia going over there news. Um, so that could say, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean that was the first the first press conference
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  Speaker 1: I heard this morning. UM was Sean Payton and he
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  Speaker 1: was asked a couple of questions about Matty p and um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Peyton was very complimentary of him, Um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: talked about his work with the Patriots. But then there
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  Speaker 1: was a follow up, you know, basically saying, you know,
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  Speaker 1: so is this not closed? The door not closed to
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  Speaker 1: him and he's in the way. Peyton explained that he
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  Speaker 1: wanted to continue to talk to Vanish Joseph. Obviously you
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  Speaker 1: want to make sure the defensive coordinator is okay with
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  Speaker 1: the potential role. Um, but that he's you know, he
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  Speaker 1: was it very impressed with his interview as a very
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  Speaker 1: bright guy, and they wanted to look and so was
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  Speaker 1: it a New England media person who asked the question.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't make out the voice of the woman who
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  Speaker 1: asked the question. The follow up question was definitely a woman.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't I didn't see it and I was
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  Speaker 1: watching it, but you just watch the podium, you don't
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  Speaker 1: see the people asking the questions. So I didn't. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I you know, I thought that, you know, when the
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  Speaker 1: announcement was made with Bill O'Brien, I thought there was
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  Speaker 1: a good chance that Patricia would stay and go back
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  Speaker 1: to the role that he was before twenty twenty two,
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  Speaker 1: which was more you know, on a GM path, more
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  Speaker 1: personnel scouting, you know, back office type stuff. But then
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  Speaker 1: you hear like the growing influence that Matt grow has,
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  Speaker 1: you know, has gotten over the last year, and you're like, oh, well,
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  Speaker 1: maybe there isn't room for him to go back there,
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  Speaker 1: So so maybe we shouldn't be surprised that he's out there,
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  Speaker 1: you know, interviewing for other jobs. Um. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: as as we talked about, it would be weird if
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  Speaker 1: you know, all year Matt's here and you know, Matt
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  Speaker 1: Patricia and all he's hearing is oh, the offense is
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  Speaker 1: better and blah blah blah. And you know that's an
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  Speaker 1: uncomfortable situation for both sides. Yeah, I agree. And you
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  Speaker 1: know the other part that leads me to believe that, um,
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  Speaker 1: there's there's some more than just some smoke. Um, you
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  Speaker 1: know with that for that is um. Right after they
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  Speaker 1: went away NFL Network went away from Peyton, they went
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  Speaker 1: to their anchor desk and and was Ian Rappaport immediately saying, um,
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  Speaker 1: I believe the terms that he used were a role
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  Speaker 1: something like senior defensive assistant or you know, slash associate
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  Speaker 1: head coach, which I thought was kind of specific for
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  Speaker 1: something that was just kind of being you know, um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, off the top of the head. So I
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  Speaker 1: think Ian maybe um in the loop there, um that
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  Speaker 1: that that's in the plans. It sounded like, uh, and
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  Speaker 1: and Peyton talked you know, in in you know, in
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  Speaker 1: positive terms about Vance Joseph, Matt Patricia and Rex Ryan,
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  Speaker 1: who also interviewed for that job. It sounded like he
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  Speaker 1: just wanted to sort of run it by Vance Joseph
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  Speaker 1: just to make sure, you know, there was no ruffled
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  Speaker 1: feathers there or anything like that. So interesting, you know,
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  Speaker 1: so we're already getting some Patriots related news out of
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  Speaker 1: the combine. Uh. Yeah. And Josh McDaniels, Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: really I thought pretty strong on Billy O'Brien. Yeah, just
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  Speaker 1: what he saw when they were together. You could see
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  Speaker 1: he was a guy who was cut out for the
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  Speaker 1: NFL right away. And yeah, you know, so I think
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  Speaker 1: he thinks Mac Jones is in good hands. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: today his coaches and head coaches and gms uh talking. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: they'll do a little bit more of that tomorrow and
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  Speaker 1: then you know, when the focus turns to the players. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and there's more head coach and GM stuff tomorrow too. Um,
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  Speaker 1: but you're right tomorrow in earnest it will go to uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the player's perspective starts off with defense this year,
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  Speaker 1: which is a little bit of a flip flop for
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  Speaker 1: what they normally do. Ye. Um, so maybe they maybe
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  Speaker 1: they saw that like a lot of people left the
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  Speaker 1: combine early. Yeah, and they're trying to keep attending. I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised by that at all. They might, Um,
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  Speaker 1: it might be an effort to do it that way,
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  Speaker 1: but it might also be an effort to make it
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  Speaker 1: more equitable for the defensive players because I think that
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  Speaker 1: media is probably still gonna leave. Yeah. I read an article,
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  Speaker 1: um uh it was one of the national reporter is
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  Speaker 1: talking about how the player union has been complaining over
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  Speaker 1: the years because you know, with the NFL network taking
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  Speaker 1: kind of over the the combine, like there's been workouts
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  Speaker 1: late at night and stuff like that, it's just not fair. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And one of our companies around here, local Noble, has
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  Speaker 1: taken over the common bind is presenting sponsor and whatnot,
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  Speaker 1: and evidently as part of that they're building a pretty
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  Speaker 1: significant workout facility with the players too, you know the
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  Speaker 1: way that they sort of described this, And I saw
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  Speaker 1: Ben Voland actually wrote a little about this over the week.
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  Speaker 1: It might have been Voland that I was reading. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he talked about you know, a lot of the players
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  Speaker 1: were like sort of relegated to hallways and whatnot to
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  Speaker 1: warm up for like you know, forty yard dashes and
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  Speaker 1: things like that. So yeah, I think that's probably a
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  Speaker 1: better situation. But my thought was, if they're gonna build
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  Speaker 1: a sort of state of the art kind of facility
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  Speaker 1: for these players to work out in inside the convention center,
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  Speaker 1: does that mean the Combine staying in Indianapolis? A good question,
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  Speaker 1: because there has been some talk about moving in around
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  Speaker 1: the venue. Yeah, unless what Noble is building is kind
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  Speaker 1: of mobile, you know, it's just like a set that
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  Speaker 1: are stuff that they can just move wherever. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: I have no idea. The other thing I thought was
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  Speaker 1: interesting that we've heard this before that the players associations
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  Speaker 1: complained about, and I guess now they have to agree to,
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  Speaker 1: is that teams can't ask those weird questions that Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I guess that was in a memo trying to crack
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  Speaker 1: down on some of that stuff. You know. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: forget which team got in trouble a few years ago
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  Speaker 1: for asking about a player's mother. Yeah, I think it
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  Speaker 1: was Dez Bryant's, wasn't it. It might have been. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So so that's going on now, and Douce will be
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  Speaker 1: calling in around one o'clock, he said, with an update. Yah,
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  Speaker 1: And I guess Nick Kissario, you know, recently finished his
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  Speaker 1: and didn't have many New England ties to that, so um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you just kind of you you'd look at
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  Speaker 1: a lot of these guys and you, you know, well,
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  Speaker 1: he was here, he was here, he was here, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, looking for sort of Patriot flavor from some
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  Speaker 1: of that. But a couple of give you a couple
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  Speaker 1: of nuggets that I had that I didn't necessarily think
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  Speaker 1: rose to the level of writing a separate post about
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  Speaker 1: Freddie Um, the general manager in um Denver, who spoke
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  Speaker 1: shortly after Sean Payton. George George Patton or Peyton. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not sure how to pronounce. His name is pat O
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  Speaker 1: and is that Patton Patone? It could be I'm not
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  Speaker 1: positive how to pronounce. He's been there for a little
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  Speaker 1: while um he um, you know, sort of talked about
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  Speaker 1: Jerry Judy a little bit. Who's a guy that Um,
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  Speaker 1: they're still deciding whether to pick up his fifty er option, right,
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  Speaker 1: So if they don't pick up the fifty er option,
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  Speaker 1: that would potentially, to me make him a more viable
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  Speaker 1: trade candidate because it would sort of indicate that maybe
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  Speaker 1: the Broncos aren't sold on him. But they he indicated
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  Speaker 1: they're very happy with him, and that's something they're going
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  Speaker 1: to be discussing in the future. Um. Another one was
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  Speaker 1: Omar Kahn, who was the new general manager in Pittsburgh
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  Speaker 1: who took over for one of our Andy and I
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  Speaker 1: all time favorite Kevin Colberg. In Pittsburgh does a draft
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  Speaker 1: like Kevin Colbert, right, and I thought he was really
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  Speaker 1: good at it. And Omar Karn talked a little bit
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  Speaker 1: about Adrian Clem. Not a whole lot there, um, you
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  Speaker 1: know from the time that that Clem was in Pittsburgh.
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  Speaker 1: Just said, you know, he enjoyed his time with Clem,
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  Speaker 1: and I thought he was a really good person and
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  Speaker 1: enjoyed talking about his family and whatnot. But not really
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  Speaker 1: a whole lot of substance there in terms of this
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  Speaker 1: is what you're getting as an offensive line coach. And
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  Speaker 1: you know who knows, Patriots still really haven't announced that,
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  Speaker 1: so I guess that's reportedly other Patriots news. Devin mccordy
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  Speaker 1: was on Good Morning Football? Is that what it's called? Yes? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I got that right. Okay, Um his obviously his brother
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  Speaker 1: is on that show, Jason, but um made some news
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  Speaker 1: talking about mac. Um. I called it a Patriots Nation
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  Speaker 1: pep talk because you know, if you were worried about, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, what his teammates think about him, I think
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  Speaker 1: Devin MCCORDYUM gave you some optimism there. Yeah. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: worried about what his teammates think of him. I'm worried
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  Speaker 1: about what his coaching staff thinks about understand. But yes,
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  Speaker 1: that's half of it right there. Yeah, I think that
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  Speaker 1: I'm not surprised to see the players speak, um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: on his behalf. Um, that's interesting stuff. I think that's
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  Speaker 1: probably gonna be what you and I are going to
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  Speaker 1: talk about for most of this show. Is is that
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  Speaker 1: kind of stuff? One last thing, Um Combine related that
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  Speaker 1: I think is of interest to Patriots fans, not necessarily
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots specifically, but I don't know if you saw this.
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  Speaker 1: Freddy Um Leslie Fraser, the defensive coordinator for the Buffalo Bills,
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  Speaker 1: decided to take the year off. Yeah. I have a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of a different take on this. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's a good a good thing for Buffalo. I think
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  Speaker 1: that he has come up smallest in the biggest games.
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  Speaker 1: Yea as the defensive coordinator for the Bills. Um. Right now,
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  Speaker 1: it looks like Brandon Bean when he spoke, said there's
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  Speaker 1: a possibility that they're just going to leave the defensive
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  Speaker 1: play calling duties to Sean McDermott. Yeah, I think that
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  Speaker 1: would be an upgrade. So you wonder if he was
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  Speaker 1: if it was his decision for him, Like he's like
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  Speaker 1: Frasier says he's coming back to coach in twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 1: Bean didn't say whether or not that would be in Buffalo, right,
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  Speaker 1: but it sounded like the doors open for him in Buffalo.
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  Speaker 1: I think Frasier may be going through some person situation. Um.
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  Speaker 1: You know that I have no idea about. But um,
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  Speaker 1: I think they're on the surface. You say, wow, Buffalo
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  Speaker 1: is losing their rough, their defensive coordinator. You know, here
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  Speaker 1: we are in almost March you're saying it could be subtraction.
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  Speaker 1: Is I don't think it's a I don't think it's
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  Speaker 1: a great thing for Buffalo, But I don't think it's
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  Speaker 1: a it's a terrible thing either, because, like I said,
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  Speaker 1: I think in the playoffs and in big moments, big situations,
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  Speaker 1: they haven't come up big. Yeah. Um, and they have
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  Speaker 1: I think the talent to have a better defense than
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  Speaker 1: they've they've shown. Um. So that that was another Patriots
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  Speaker 1: related item that came out of the Okay combine this morning.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, anything else I'm going around, like league wide
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  Speaker 1: or anything that we should just put on the table. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota was released in Atlanta. Oh and um there
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  Speaker 1: was the Orlando Brown junior is available? Is that correct? Well,
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  Speaker 1: he's gonna be a free a. He's gonna be a
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  Speaker 1: free agent, Okay, because I heard them talking today that
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  Speaker 1: someone wrote the highest rank tackle depending free agent, and
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  Speaker 1: someone wrote this morning that the Patriots are going to
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  Speaker 1: sign him. Oh I didn't see that. Yeah, that was
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  Speaker 1: talked about on one of your shows. That'd be a
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  Speaker 1: drop dead stunner. Yeah. Um, I had never heard that before,
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  Speaker 1: and it could may not be true, but that's what
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  Speaker 1: they were talking about this morning. Yeah, one of your writers,
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  Speaker 1: that's twenty plus million annually. Yeah, that just don't think
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  Speaker 1: that would be something the Patriots would be doing. But okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: twenty play I wrote that. I wrote down these numbers
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  Speaker 1: a while ago. Orlando Brown. A lot of people are
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  Speaker 1: projecting at twenty Why are they letting him go? And
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  Speaker 1: maybe he doesn't want to resign there I don't know. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: all right, okay, maybe they're not letting him go. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: they'll just franchise him. That's true. Um, I'm trying to think.
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  Speaker 1: Who else did they mentioned today? Um, not necessarily that
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots were going to sign, but just people, you know,
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  Speaker 1: possible moves around the league we still haven't heard about.
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  Speaker 1: I give you a possible guy that I that I'm interested,
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  Speaker 1: not as like that number one guy at wide receiver,
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  Speaker 1: but Giants are gonna let go of Kenny Galladay. That's
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  Speaker 1: the one on the first day of the league he
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  Speaker 1: was I was reading that morning. I have no illusions
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  Speaker 1: that Kenny Galladay is gonna step in and be that
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  Speaker 1: A J. Brown. He's not that guy anymore. Um, he's not,
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  Speaker 1: you know. But but I do think there's a chance
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  Speaker 1: that he could, he could give you a higher level
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  Speaker 1: of talent and you have, yeah in that in that room,
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  Speaker 1: especially if you lose Jakobe Myers. Yeah, well I was
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  Speaker 1: just gonna bring that. Speaking in wide receivers, Mike Reis
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  Speaker 1: had a you know, some information this weekend on Myers.
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  Speaker 1: And you know there's another item that Mike Reas had
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  Speaker 1: that remind me of when you finished with the Myers
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  Speaker 1: you know what he could possibly getting, uh uh? In
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  Speaker 1: terms of salary, I think it was like the sixteen
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  Speaker 1: million range. Six Yeah, I mean, anybody has him around
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  Speaker 1: fifteen million. Mike had it between fifteen and twenty, right, Um,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it'll get to twenty, but I think
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  Speaker 1: fifteen is reasonable. Yeah. Yeah, I mean if you look
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  Speaker 1: at his his production, it's it's right on par with
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  Speaker 1: guys that mean like Hunter Renfroe just got sixteen and
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  Speaker 1: now he's all produced Hunter render now the problem. So
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  Speaker 1: you know, we all love Myers, right, and we think
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  Speaker 1: he's he was probably the most consistent minde receiver the
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  Speaker 1: team had no probably, but if you do go out
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  Speaker 1: and get a a true number one, how much does
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  Speaker 1: his production go down? As now you paid him sixteen
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  Speaker 1: or fifteen million or whatever, and then you signed this
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  Speaker 1: number one and now he's not getting the same production
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  Speaker 1: he had before, right, I not necessarily. First of all,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure that the production will go down because
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  Speaker 1: I think the style that he has is going to
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  Speaker 1: be conducive to catching a lot of a lot of balls,
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  Speaker 1: much like when you know Welker and Edelman weren't the
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  Speaker 1: number one guys, they still caught the most passes. Yea, yea,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I don't. But I
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  Speaker 1: don't see him as being that quick, get open kind
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  Speaker 1: of guy that Edelman and Welker were myers. But he is.
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  Speaker 1: He gets open like they do ye as quickly. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean he's he's a possession receiver. Yeah, who catches
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  Speaker 1: eighty five balls? Yeah, Like I mean, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: This gets back to my my my itch that I
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  Speaker 1: that I scratch every once in a while about they
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  Speaker 1: need a slot guy. So this gets me to Mike
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  Speaker 1: Reese's other item, which he had today. Evidently the Patriots
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  Speaker 1: have plans. I don't know if it's already happened or
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  Speaker 1: if it's going to happen today of working out Slade Bolden,
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  Speaker 1: the former Alabama West Welker slash Julian Edelman type who
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  Speaker 1: you know, everybody I'm sure would much rather see than
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  Speaker 1: Jacobe Myers, even though I don't think that he'll be
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  Speaker 1: that kind of a guy. But he's an undersized inside
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  Speaker 1: slot guy who Bill O'Brien used at Alabama a lot
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  Speaker 1: like he tried to use Wes Welker, Right, So evidently
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  Speaker 1: there's some interest there. Guy wasn't really even in the league. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, knowing the way the Patriots operate, there's probably
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  Speaker 1: some people in the room, you know, saying, let's not
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  Speaker 1: pay this guy sixteen million, Let's just start over with
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  Speaker 1: another guy, because, like Paul Perilla says, they're just loose change. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they at least have to be NFL players. Yeah, he
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  Speaker 1: wasn't one last year. Um yeah, no, No, that's that's
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  Speaker 1: that's a fair like snark at me. No question, I
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  Speaker 1: think less of those guys than most. I think. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be proven wrong in this. I think continuing
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: to try to model your offense in that way as
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: a mistake because you don't have Tom Brady. That's first
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: and foremost. But that would be true no matter what
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: you tried to model your offense like, Yeah, I think
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: in this day and age, unique guys to make place.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: I think teams will let you throw the ball underneath
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: all you want. You're not gonna beat me that way.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: This is the way they look at it now. Yeah. Um,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: like Tom Brady had one of his lowest average per
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: attempts last year of his career. Yeah, million completions you know,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: through for a lot of yards again like he always does.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: They couldn't score and they couldn't win games. Yeah, they
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: couldn't score points because they couldn't get the ball consistently
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: down the field to Godwin and Evans the way they
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: had in the past. In my opinion, Yeah, I just
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: I just feel like it's a tough way. It's a
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: tough way to play offense to just rely on that guy,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: especially if you don't have to do Now, if you
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: want to add that guy to Randy Moss and his
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: prime on the outside, that's different, right, that's different. Yeah,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: you know, you just have to have that threat. You
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: have to have a big play threat, you know. Yeah.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: And I found it interesting that I listening to a
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: couple of the the gms, you know, they're always asked
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: those generic you know, you know, I'll talk about this class.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on this class? What positions are strong?
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: And I heard a lot of guys talk about tight
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: end being very deep, cornerback being very deep, and pass
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: rusher m Brandon Bean was one of them that used
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: those three positions. But so you wonder if if it
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: turns out to be I think there are some options
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: at fourteen. And what I hate is, you know, also
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: a lot of these guys agree there's not a tremendous
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: amount of blue chippers to use you a term, okay, right,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: not a ton of blue chippers. So what does that
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: mean If there's not a lot of blue chippers? Rade down? Okay,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: why doesn't it mean trade up? So you get one
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: of them? But there aren't any but there are some. Yeah, well,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: I guess blue chipper is in the eye of the beholder.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: But my point is there's never been a draft without
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: any blue chips. Yeah, so if there aren't a lot
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: of them and you're at fourteen, if you can get
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: up into the top ten, maybe you can get one. Yeah,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: I'm not even but everybody was with you. Well, that
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: means they're trading down, and you're probably right you're probably right.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: I agree. Yeah, Well, especially if teams are undervaluing the
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: top tier guys and they're willing to take less to
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: get out of it because they just don't think the
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: market's there for these players because they're not Blue Chippers.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe the move is to go up and you know,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: get a you know, have to give away a little
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: less than you normally would, right, you know, I don't know,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: so yeah, I mean just the it's it's just starting. Yeah,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: but we and I had some fun this morning monitoring
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: some of this crap. All right, eight five five pats
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: five hundred is the eight sticke at hot Line. Eight
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: five five pats five hundred. A lot of a lot
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: of electricity last show because we're giving away our T shirts.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: And Derek Carr's actually in Indie meeting with the Saints,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: the Jets, and the Panthers. Wow, which is kind of
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: rare for a veteran. Yeah. Um, yeah, I heard that
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: the Jets are hot in his heels, you know. I
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: think the Jets are trying to protect themselves in case
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers doesn't ultimately leave Green Bay, which some people
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: think this is going to end the same way it
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: did last year, and he's not gonna end up going anywhere.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, if I kind of feel for Green Bay
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: fans like I like, I would be going nuts if
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: I was a fan right now. But would you be
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: going nuts wanting him to leave? It would be it
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: would be love hate. Yeah, that's how it would be.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Love hate. I'm so done with him. I want him,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: but I hate the way he's acting. You know. That's
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: the way I would be as a green Bay fan
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: because this talent is undeniable. You know, Are you a
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: better team with Aaron Rodgers? Yes? You know. Is there
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: someone else that you're gonna get that's gonna be as good? No?
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: You know. So it's that's the the conundrum that Green
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Bay's going through right now. But yeah, we we did
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: give away some T shirts last show. We'll give away
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: a couple more this show. At some point we'll do
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: some trivia questions. First person who emails web radio at
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Patriots dot com with the correct answer, we'll get the
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: T shirt. I did get some complaints though, We got complaints. Yeah, well,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: you're catering to people who you know who listen to
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: the show. Yeah, And I said, yeah, I mean the
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: first T shirts are going to go to our loyal
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: listeners over the year. I'm sorry, but at some point
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: we'll have more generic and we can have some more um,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: more recent yeah stuff. Yeah, but those are too easy,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: I think, you know. Yeah, well, I mean they're not
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: really meant to But we can also have some non
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: related trivia questions too, So Paul, if you if you
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: have any good you know, Patriots non show related trivia,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: we can also throw those in two to give everyone
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: a shot. I'm not good, but a lot of people,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: a lot of people took the questions that we asked
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: last week and actually did research. They went and looked
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: at tweets that we had or shows in the past,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: and and found the answer on their own. Okay, you
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: know somebody also, someone actually referred to a curse chronicles
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: that I did in two thousand and one. I didn't
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: even know those were still available. Remember I used to
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: do those daily blogs from the Super Bowl, and uh
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: I mentioned Shane Donaldson and one of them, and he
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: got the answer from that Shane Olszo. Good stuff. Good stuff.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: All right, Um, phone lines are light up. Let's get
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: over to the Ace ticket outline. We'll start with Eddie
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: in La what's up, Eddie? What's up guys? Thank you,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: they're doing good. We're doing good. Thanks for Colin. I
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: wanted to talk about potential target for a wide receiver
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: to trade for. Okay, and it's not in the draft. Um.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: I know that there's probably not word that he doesn't
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: want to be with this team anymore. But maybe like
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: the team is rebuilding and they feel like they need
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: other things, and maybe they don't think that this this, uh,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: this guy that's in his rookie contract won't be here
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: the long term. Is Michael Pittman Jr. Okay, Yeah, would
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: he be a good potential trade target? Yeah, I think
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: you would. I think you would, Eddie. I think you
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: would also be a great piece for Indianapolis to try
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: to uh you know, turn this around, uh and and
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: put last year behind them for for the Colts. So
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: but yeah, I like I like that kind of player. Um,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: and I think he would be a good addition for
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: the Patriots. So it's definitely worth looking into. Yeah, Okay, Yeah,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: I mean I like that idea. I like the way
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Eddie's thinking, you know, you know, go outside the box
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: and look at some guys that might be able to
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: you know, and maybe you might look at it and say, well,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Indy might have to strip. Indie's been trying to put
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: band aids on it, and maybe they've gotten to the
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: point where right now they're just saying, let's strip it
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: to the studs and start again. I wouldn't go that
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: way with Indie. I would never go that way with anybody,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: because I don't think you need to do that in
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: the NFL, right right, you know, I think you can
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: kind of you get a few pieces. Yeah, yeah, um,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I mean the Gallady thing, you know, just reminded me
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: that you just never know who's gonna come available, you know, Yeah,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: you know, a guy like that, he's a tremendous disappointment
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: with the Giants. Um that he was a good, big
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: free agent addition two years ago and he's done very
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: little right for them. So but then you look did
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: and say, Okay, you know, Daniel Jones did better last year.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: But up until that point, you know, does Galladay have
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: the same excuse that a lot of people are giving
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: mac Jones? You know, like the people around like he
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: didn't have a quarterback? Most don't. I was laughing yesterday.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: I talked to you a little bit about this um um.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Yesterday here in the office. Um so you talked about
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Devin mccordy with his strong passionate defense of mac Jones.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: I think he said something like if you think he's
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: not the future, you're wrong. I think was that was
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: the money quote that we all used in our in
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: our recaps um. And then at the same time, you know,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: like there's been as you say, all the time. You know,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: all these people on the radio that want him gone,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: you know, the callers in the listeners, not the guy
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: that want him gone in Andy, our buddy bighead. You know.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: So is it is it? Uh, you know, a passionate defense?
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Is it? Is it the back or is it or
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: is it slander against against mac? Or you know, you know,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: how does this look? Um? You know, because some people
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: are tired of the propaganda propping Mac Jones up. And
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: by some people, I mean like Adam Jones, yea who
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: the dark Knight himself, who's now on wei And then
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: people are looking at the bashing of mac Jones as slander.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: So right now you've you've, you've you're in a mess.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: It all depends on who you listen to and what
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: voices are in your head. I mean Adam, I mean what,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: he's really good at what he does, but I hate
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: what he does. H Adam Jones. Like Friday, they were
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: talking about video that we came out with UM about
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: you know, the Shrine Game and the Patriots coach coaches
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: being there and all that stuff, and you know, our
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: narrator um mentioned you know players recently who have come
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: out of the Shrine Bowl, Kyle Dugger and uh Ouche
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: and you know, and didn't mention Mac Jones. Well, it
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: was an oversight on our part to not have Mac
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Jones in that conversation. But when Mac Jones was there,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: he had a sprained ankle. They didn't play in the game,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: so I can understand why it was an oversight. But
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: of course Adam Jones, in his fashion, looked at it
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: as some conspiracy that it was, you know, a message
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: that the Patriots were sending. Mac Jones was at the
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Shrine Bowl and not the Senior Bowl. I don't know,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: but like that, See that was that's my pushback is
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: I thought our piece was about the Shrine Bowl. Well
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: that's where our coaches it was most I think Mac
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Jones was at the Senior Bowl and didn't play there
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: because of an ancle. It could be, but ninety percent
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: of the piece was about the Shrine Bowl. Ten percent
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: of it was about the Senior Bowl because two of
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: our coaches were at the Senior Bowl. Cummington was over there,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: you know, so they did mention that, and they might
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: have mentioned other players who'd come out of the Senior
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Bowl in the past. I'm not sure. But either way,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: either way, it was just an oversight. It wasn't like, oh,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: the Patriots intentionally left him out to send a message.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: First of all, football has nothing to do with the video.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: We don't ever do that, you know, we don't ever
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: try to send messages. That's how you get fired, right,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: We're not doing that. So, like, you know, I listened
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: to your guy Adam Jones, and I was like, oh,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: rolling my eyes. And poor Matt Smith, who you know,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: is the producer of the thing, Like it's like, oh, shoot,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: you know, I forgot to put him in now he
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: didn't say fudge, yeah, you know. Yeah, It's it's one
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: of those things that we always deal with and whenever
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: something like that comes out, it's always, well, you know,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: the team website doesn't have a defensive coordinator listed, and
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: you know, like that's not always because you know, some
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: edict from above. We're just doing, you know, the best
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: we can. We put together what I thought. You know,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: a lot of people, there's a lot of positive feedback
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: on that piece. I know, Matt I thought it was
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: a great I know Mike Reese was very complimentary of it.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: And I do want to say football because they did
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: give us Actball gave us a lot of access, you know,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: so um, you know, but that doesn't mean that they
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: were telling us out Matt Jones. Hey, hey, hey, hey,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: we're trying to send a message track Jones. We gotta
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: get him back back on track here. That leave him out.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: That's the last thing they would ever do. And they
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: wouldn't ask us. They wouldn't ask us to do it. Yeah,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: oh my god. So I just thought that was funny.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: So you you were funny to you say, like, he's
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: very good at what he does, Adam Jones, But I
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: hate what does it like what he's doing right now
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: with the Bruins. Oh, he is a troll. I'll believe
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: it when they hand them, when they hit I won't
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: believe it until they hit him the Stanley Cup for you, Okay,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: way to get out of there, and like like, so
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: so they can go through the entire regular season to
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: be the best team in hockey by a significant amount. Right,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: they could go through all the through three rounds of
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: the playoffs and ultimately lose in the Stanley Cup Final,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: and He'll say I would see right, I mean right,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Like that's unbelievable to me, you know, and I do
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: think it's funny. I don't, unlike a lot of other people,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: I don't take this stuff um personally like. I just
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: think he often does the team with the record not
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: win at all a lot? What how like? You know,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: but does not winning at all mean right that? This
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: is the argument I've always had with big Head is
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: you know what he labels as a failure of a season.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: And I'm much more easygoing that, right, Like, like losing
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: to Philadelphia in the seventeen Super Bowl did not make
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: that season of failure, right to me? Losing in the
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: first round of the playoffs with a team like that,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: like say in two thoy ten, that's more of an
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: argument to make as a failure, right, you know, like
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: that there are there are differences, like not every great
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: team wins at all. Yeah, and to me. Those who
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: call it a failure when you get close and you
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: don't do it don't realize how freaking hard it is
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: to get as far as you get. You know, it's
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: like the Celtics and Bruins right now are both playing great.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: You know here in Boston. I know, you know, we
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: don't have a lot of Jess Boston fans that are listening.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: But does that mean that there's seasons were waste of
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: time if they don't end up winning it all? Now,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: if they get punched out in the first round, have
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: at it. Yeah, Like that's different, right, But you know
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: you're losing like the conference finals or the or the
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: actual finals. I mean, I'm sorry, that's a pretty good
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: run they took you on. I mean the Bruins, you know,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: winning all these games, they are on pace to set
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: an all time record for points and wins. Yeah, and
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: if they lose in Game seven of the Stanley Cup Finals,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: I'm supposed to say I can't believe I invested all
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: that time. Oh my god, But that's what people but
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: losing the first round of the playoffs, Yeah, and I'll
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: be saying, jeez, I can't believe I had face invested
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: all that time. That's a choke. That's a choke. I agree. Yeah,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Patty and agawam in the ACE ticket hot line. What's up,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Patty Gay, Hey, Hey Patty. So I gotta get kudos
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: to Paul. You're right Mac Jones within the Senior Bowl
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: and he got hurt and he heard his ankle in
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: practice that week and then he didn't play in the game. Yeah,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: I'm giving credit to Fred for the ankle part because
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: I didn't remember that. Yeah, and I got it wrong,
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: I you know, but whatever, it was Shrine Bowld, both
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: games were mentioned in the piece, and you know there
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: was no message being said, I can guarantee you. I
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: just wanted to touch on a couple of things to
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: you guys that I kind of agree with Paul, where
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: they were to resign to Kobe and they went out
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: and got a quote unquote number one guy. I think
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: that that would increase his production because that would take
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: a lot of pressure off of guys like him, guys
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: like Hunter, Henry Gasp Johnny Smith. Maybe I highly doubt
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: the latter one. And yeah, I mean if if Fred
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: your scenario that you heard were they possibly might sign
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Orlando Brown junior, if they don't franchise them. I would
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: move up and take the one guy that I really like.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: I know, I said, there's no Saucer Darrell Reeves in
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: this class. But the guy I really like his Van
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Witherspoon out of Illinois. He looks like he's there sort
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: of you know, in that he treat Muldus high Laws
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: to find Gilmore. Good press man guy. He just he
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: looks like he needs to add maybe like ten pounds
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: to his brain. But he looks like a player, you know. Okay, Yeah,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: And like I said, a lot of these NFL decision
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: makers are talking about the depth of the cornerback position,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: tight end, cornerback, pass rushers. I've heard that a couple
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: of times today. So yeah, I wouldn't be a I
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: think cornerback is a big need. I know. Like I
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: heard people on my station Freddy last weekend or early
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: m late late last week talking about eight wz. That's
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: ten thirty. But anyway, I heard Gasper and Mary talking
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: a little bit about you know, they've had a great,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: great track record of developing corners, and I'm like, I
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: mean a great track right now. You could certainly point
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: to the undrafted guys. Sandel Gay Right, Randall Gay, No,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: you can Randall Gay, Malcolm Butler, Jonathan Jones, j C. Jackson,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: all undrafted guys who turned out to be good players. Now,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: let's talk about what they've drafted at that position and developed. Yeah,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: that's not so good. Wheatley, Oh Wheatley, will Hike, Duke Dawson,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Joan Williams, Cyrus Jones. That list is Jordan Richards, Tavon
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Wilson did. Their list of second round defensive backs is abysmal. Yeah,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: why do you think that is? I have no idea.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: Why are they better with the undrafted guys? The undrafted
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: guys come in there, I would argue more. I would
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: argue that there's probably not a huge difference. It's just
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: your perception. Yeah, of what it got this undrafted rookie's
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: playing as opposed to you know, the second round. You know,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: the second round draft pick is a part time player
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: right now. I think Malc and Butler and j. C.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Jackson were a lot better players than Tyrone, Tyrone Wheatley.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Terrence we is Terrence Wheekly, not Tyrone we are running back, Yeah,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Terrence Wheatley and you know, Duke Dawson. Yeah, but I
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: do think part of that is perception. I think you
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: think a lot more of the undrafted guys because they
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: were undrafted. Sure, Uh, all right, Patty? Is that it?
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: All right? Thanks? Let's go down to North Carolina. Todd's there.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: What's up Todd? Hey, guys being hard to buy a
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: house these days. I tell you, Wow, it's a lot
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: of hoops. A well, it's always been a lot of hoops.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: But also competition and all that, the price and all that.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't envy you. Yeah, last called last week.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: I called in and said, well, what do you think
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: would be like a sign of progress and trying to
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: move the team forward and stuff? And I actually thought
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: I should probably answer my own question because I think, really,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: if they want to show that they're trying to turn
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: the page on last year, move forwards, give Mac jone
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: a chance. Like I'm not going to say whether I
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: like macdones or not saying I'm not going to get
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: into that whole thing. I just think he needs a
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: chance so the team knows what they got, whether there's
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: something there or not. They need to get rid of
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Judge and they need to get rid of Patricia. They
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: need to start clean because there's just too much baggage
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: with those two. Well, I think that that would be
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: a sign that they're moving forwards. I really do. At
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: the very least, neither of them can have anything to
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: do with the offense. You know, I don't know. Even
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: the defense was complaining about them apparently well okay again
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: that's that's hearsay. I can't say it, but you know,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: they were. They were over involved in stuff, and I
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: think that as long as they're there, there's a chance
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: that they could be a bit of a toxic situation.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: You know. Bill's good at navigating things, but I don't know,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: like this that bothers me. Yeah, I kind of feel
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: like Todd, we talked about this late last week. I
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: just wonder, you know, like these stories that are coming out,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: are were they a couple incidents? Was it a thing
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: that happened every practice? You know, Like like I don't know,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: I I no, I know, but you know, like I
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: just wonder, like what what's going on, Like is what
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: what kind of ship is Bill running these days compared
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: to what he used to run. I just wonder, you know,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: and like, to me, one of the things they need
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: to do this offseason Besides, you know, building a team
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: is like and I'm not saying they should do an
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: investigation and who's leaking and all that, but it doesn't
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: matter who's leaking. They just need to put a stop
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: to it. They need they need to get everybody on
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: the same page and you know, um somehow, somehow and
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: just get rid of all that nonsense and Todd you
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: might be right. The way to do that is Judge
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: and Patricia are gone, so that you eliminate all any
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: of that. But I just think that that's one of
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: the big things that Bill needs to do this offseason
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: is get it everyone back on the same page, you know,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: working towards the same goal. Yeah, I think, oh yeah, yeah.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, by the way, yeah, do that too, Yeah,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: get the players, But I think that it has to be,
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: you know, an all around effort. But anyway, great show, guys.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: I love to give aways. Yes, I had two of
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: the answers, but my phone didn't work last week, so
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: and I was doing those things so away, all right, thanks.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: You know, like, you know, going back to two thousand
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: and three when they got rid of Lawyer malloy, there
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: were a lot of people in the locker room that
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: weren't happy with that decision, you know, and then you
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: had the Tom Jackson his comment, Um, he didn't make
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: it up. I don't think Um, but Bill figured it
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: out how to. You know, winning helped, but you know,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: he got those guys back to a mindset where you
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: could win. Um. And I don't know what. I don't
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: know how he did it, but it you know, it happened.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: And that's kind of what he has to do now,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: is it's just get everybody's mind right again. Well, you know,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: do I think that that alone is going to be
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: a sign of progress. No, But I do think that
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: sends a message to those guys on offense that they
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: were heard. We heard you, okay, and right we're gonna
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: make sure even though we're not going to have them
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: on offense now looked at, Sometimes these things work themselves
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: out for you. And we opened the show talking about
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: Sean Payton talking about Matt Patricia. So maybe that part
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: of the equation worked itself out for you. You don't
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: have to do anything. Maybe Sean Payton hires Matt Patricia
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: and that's that's one of the two gone. Your point
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: is if Joe Judge is just not involved with the offense.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: I do think you'd be better if he just wasn't around,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: if they feel as strongly as it seems. This is
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: not me saying I can't have Joe Judge in my day.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: But if the players feel like that that they were
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: done wrong by Joe Judge last year, then I think
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: it's better off for both parties ye to sort of separate.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: But that alone isn't going to do anything. But I
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: do think it's a sign that the coaches heard the
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: complaints and they did something about it. Yep. Let's go
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: to Scott and Scott are you and Wellesley? Hey, guys,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: how are you? Yes? Scotty? Yeah, that was a poor
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: attempt at spelling Wellesley Matt. Yeah, but anyway, it's a
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: Rhode Island attempt. Yeah, what's up, Scott? Not too much?
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: You know, Surprised when you're talking about busts in the
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: in the in the defensive background, you didn't include Rosie Dowling.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's another one. There you go, that's another one. Yeah.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: You know, I was worried about you, Fred because I
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: saw that they cut Quinn Norton and they knew how
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: excited you were about him last year. Comparing him to
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Justin Tucker. He could really hit that ball. Yeah. Yeah.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: The question what I wanted to call about essentially was, um,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: you know, whether you think they should go for a
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: wide receiver with with the pick that they have a similarly,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: don't trade down. You know, I like the kid from
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: US uh they Ahdison kid. I also let you know,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Mosch a little bit lower than him is the key
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: to Domini that Rose bowls from Ohio State. And then
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: but then you also look at some of the you know,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: a lot of people are mocking cornerbacks to them there
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: and you but you'd like to think that go to
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: the offense first and maybe either get a wide receiver
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: or get an offensive Lineman's curious what you guys are
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: thinking that. It's It's like Paul said earlier, there's a
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: lot of ways they can go in this draft. Um,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: and I wouldn't. I know, we get frustrated when they
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: trade down, But if they trade down, load up a
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: bunch of guys second third round, and get a wide
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: receiver late in the first round, I'd be okay with that. Yeah,
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: you know, and I like I like Addison too, like
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Scott does a little bit more, but none of these
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: guys seem to be fourteen Yeah, I mean I know
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: that's the whole thing as well. Not at fourteen It's
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: just like, you know, I like Jacoby Myers, but not
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: at fifteen million. But then you don't like him. Yeah,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: if you don't like if you don't like him for
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: he's supposed to be. Now, I just feel like they
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: have so many needs that they can go in a
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: lot of directions. Yeah. So you know, if the tackle
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: is the guy that they need at fourteen, fine, I
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: think the defense needs plenty of work too. I'm tired
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: of every time they play a reasonably competent offense, they're
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: on the hills the whole game, and that's what happens. Yeah.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: You know, fortunately for the Patriots, they don't play that
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: many competent, you know, like high powered offenses. Yeah, hey, Paul,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: do you think now that Bill O'Brien's do you think
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: he'll make a difference in terms of, like, you know,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: going all the way back the Belichick and Parcels in
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: that whole tree is never really valued wide receivers. But
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: we're seeing now all these teams that are going far
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: have real weapons. And when I'm talking like you know,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: I'd like c J. Kobe Myers come back, but he's
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: not a you know, he's not a waddle. He's not
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: you know, I agree a guy like that. So my
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: question is, do you think Belichick will ever change his
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: mindset in that regard and say, yeah, I needed justin Jefferson.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: I'm wanting to take a guy in the middle of
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: the first round who's a wide receiver or do you
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: think he would trade down and take Jackson? Did? But
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: they kid I was talking about from Ohio State. I
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't you know. I think that's a
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: great question and it's I don't have the answer to it.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: I just think it comes down to money. Um always,
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: you know, like you say, well, you know they had
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: a two wide receiver one with Randy Moss, but when
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: they got him and they trade, he was that bargain.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: That's what Scott's trying to say. Do you think that
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: they will ever change that mentality? I don't know. I
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: don't know. If they don't, they will be do them
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: to mediocrity, is my opinion, because because I think the
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: cap is getting so big that you can't compete without
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: paying for playmakers. Yeah, but if you look at the
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: first round last year, Lobby was you know turned out well.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson was a great thick for the Jets, which
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: they're going to ruin when they signed car because the stinks.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: But that's neither here nor there. I just think it's
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: time for them to roll the dice and get a
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: wide receiver. And even if mac Jones isn't the answer,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: at least you have a guy who for five years
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: who's good. Yeah. I I'm not opposed to it. I
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: just don't know, Like like Fred said, I don't know
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: if there's a wide receiver that's among the best fourteen
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: players in the draft. Yeah, I mean the evidence is
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: out there. Like you said, Scott, that the teams that
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: are doing well in the league right now have that
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: true playmaker. Um, most of them also have a pretty
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: good quarterback too, but that's beside the point. Um, they
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: all have that true playmaker. So you know, it's it'll
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: be easier to get free agents on defense because they're
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: all say for us. I think there was some sarcasm
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: in that comment, right, All right, thanks Scott. Um, Let's
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: go to New Jersey. Eric's there. Hey, Eric, it's Eric
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: with a K. Maybe it's Scalavino. Yeah, not New Jersey.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Oh no, Eric, Yeah, Hey, how are we doing? Guys?
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: Um kind of want to friend. I really got to
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: push back on the Jakobe Myers uh situation. I mean,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: I think it's just what bad teams do to stay
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: in the mediocrity here. Um again, I think he provides
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: more value to us than a team on the open market. Um,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: no other team. I can't really name another team that
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: he's gonna catch seventy eighty balls? And again, why not?
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: Why not? But why does that the only way that
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: he would provide value? Because because he I mean, if
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: you throw the ball to him at ten yards, you're
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: gonna get ten yards. There's no yack, there's there's no
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: upside for yak on on on his ability. Now, I
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: think the guys, but that's not what I asked. I asked,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: why would his value be lower if he doesn't catch
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: eighty balls? What if he makes more plays? What if
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: he creates more first downs? Well he's saying he can't,
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: but what But why why not? Is what I'm saying.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: Why is he more valuable to the Patriots than anybody
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Else's my question? I just think that he has are
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: we built him up when he's come he's come through
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: whatever quote unquote far he came up through the well,
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: let me ask you a question. The question I know,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: but is he a seventy eighty r a catch player
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: on most other teams? Know why? And I'm asking why? Why? Compared?
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: I can name about literally a canna about thirty five
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: four receivers that, oh that are better than Jakobe marsh Again,
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: I think he's again he's consisted, But why is he not?
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: But why would he not have value if he doesn't
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: catch it? Eaty balls? So question, No, I think he
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: doesn't have He doesn't provide the same value as opposed
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: to see I disagree. I think I think if you
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: put him in Kansas City last year, he's a better
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: player for the for the Chiefs than he was for
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: the Patriots. That's a team that had no wide receivers.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: They had they had no real answers at wide receiver.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Oh what we're knocking, we're knocking something tiles up, something
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: just fell on, hit me in the head. We got
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: we got we got wire issues sold on, we got wires,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: got a workman's comp No, I think that you put
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: him on a team that has a competent passing game
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: but doesn't like and I think Kansas City is the
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: perfect example. Yeah, he's not going to catch with Travis
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Kelsey catches, but I think he would have been in
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: line with with those other guys like Juju. I think
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: he's better than JR. Smith Schuster to be honest. Like again,
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: my my, my, I guess my issue with Jacobe. Like
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: I said, I love I love the story. Nothing is
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: nothing against Jacoby. I don't really care about the story.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: I just care about the play. I think it's I
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: think it's great. But I mean as far as when
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: it comes to all terms for the football field, I
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: don't think that he provides too much. You throw ball
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: to him ten yards, you're not gonna get you know,
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: you need a thirteam. He's not gonna get you the
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: ext three xty yards. He's not going to provide that.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Yak over the account. Now again, I think these guys
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: like Jacoby his skill set, I think those are easily
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: there's a plug and play guys that you can pick
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: up off the scrap people. Again, just my first I
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: don't know if he I believe he can catch seventy
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: or eighty catches with another team, And I think that's valuable,
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: whether it's for the Patriots or another team. I think,
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: you know, an eighty catch receiver, you know, you know
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: who else, whether or not yak or not, you know
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: who else. I think you would have stepped right in
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: and been really good with seventy five catches Buffalo. Yeah, yeah,
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: they could have used that absolutely. Yeah, and and again
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: like this whole like he'll catch the pass at ten
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: yards and yeah, that's what slot receivers do. Slot receivers,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: they get a lot of yak because they're only two
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: yards over the line when they catch the ball. Otherwise
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: they all average ten yards of catch. Yeah, they're not
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: guys that are going to get downfield and average fifteen plus.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, West Welker was as prolific as anybody. Right,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: what are you average? Like ten eleven yards of catch? Yeah,
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: he got a lot of yak, ye, but that's what
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: he averaged. All Right, we're gonna take a break, so
• 49:31
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• 49:34
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  Speaker 1: Don't you like to have something vested? No, it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have to, but I'd rather have something do it. I'd
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  Speaker 1: rather have something. Tell you I was rooting from mahomes
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  Speaker 1: and borrow to score every possession the other day. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but yes, what I'd rather like been rooting against, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like for a team and against another team. Yeah, because
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  Speaker 1: that's how you watch games normally. Yeah, but I don't
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  Speaker 1: have to have things like Patriots fans need to find
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  Speaker 1: that I watch. I'm gonna I'm gonna give you the
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: nod now you know who. Okay, they'll root against the
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  Speaker 1: Rams because they spend too much money and that's not
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter that, it doesn't matter. For five years
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  Speaker 1: in a row, they've been in the playoffs. One games
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  Speaker 1: It is wrong, good Mike, and that's the way Patriots
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  Speaker 1: fans will take. So Fred says he likes the vitriol. Fine,
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  Speaker 1: you're allowed to like the vitriol. The rest of us
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  Speaker 1: who don't like the vitriol should be allowed not to
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  Speaker 1: like the vitriol. We just want to watch a good game.
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  Speaker 1: I know, whoever wins wins, I wouldn't care less. That's
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  Speaker 1: a week. It doesn't have weak sauce. I don't necessarily
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  Speaker 1: What's that? When we have those arguments that you know,
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  Speaker 1: Eric is like focusing on the vitriol. I'm like vitriol.
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  Speaker 1: I had no problem with that part of it, right,
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  Speaker 1: Like in that particular game, I wasn't really rooting against anybody, yep.
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  Speaker 1: way a lot of offense. That's the way I watched sports. No,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: it's not not all the time, um, speaking of vitriol. No,
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  Speaker 1: coaches talking. So we'll very grateful for Paul. He's doing
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  Speaker 1: a great job helping us to bang out the content.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I might have to cut back just letting
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  Speaker 1: you know. Oh you've been all over it. It's been great.
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  Speaker 1: Um so yeah, it's it's been pretty good, pretty good
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  Speaker 1: start so far. Yeah, so you know, give us a
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  Speaker 1: What are you hearing? Well? I mean, can I start
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  Speaker 1: it was it was it was different. Did that was
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• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: don't think anybody did get the prime rib, because that's
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: that is a hefty piece of meat they've got there. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: and it felt a little late, and we're gonna go
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: back there Thursday with it with one of you know,
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  Speaker 1: Paul's specials, the like five thirty reservation, which I'm a
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• 1:05:15
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• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: wasn't as overwhelming as it usually is when we're there. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So when Schefter walks in, is he already carrying the
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, but so yeah, getting into it. Um, I know,
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  Speaker 1: All right, Um, so what's the plan for the rest
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. I think today was a low day,
• 1:06:53
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  Speaker 1: the linebackers not not probably the strongest class from what
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  Speaker 1: those big boys walking. Oh yeah, oh yeah, tell Bradley
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• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: we're getting a good good amount of no socks. But
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: Bradley also made a cameo. Yep, I gotta just stay
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: on the air. Bradley is awesome. That guy is a
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: machine and he's doing everything necessary. Yeah, he is great. Yep,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: all right, thanks Mike, thanks for calling in. Guys. We'll
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: talk to you Tuesday. All right, all right, Duce Mike
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: do So live from Indy with the update. I like it.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: Good stuff. Speaking of people who work here, someone who
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: used to work here, Megan O'Brien is on the line.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: She wants to talk about eighty for Brady. What's up,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: Megan Morant? It's good. It's good to hear from you.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: What's happening? Hello from you, guys. I'm bum that Paul
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: is not in an indie. What are they gonna do
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: without him? There? Oh he's fine. Oh wait, you're not
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: an indie, are you? No? I'm actually headed to um
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay raised New York Yankees spring training game
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: right now? Oh Legends field? Wow? Yeah, no, it's over
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: at a Worldwide of sport. Oh okay, yeah, now Paul's here,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: downing two leaders of dia PEPSI. Yeah, he's the one.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: All right, good, not much just changed. So have you
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: guys seen eighty for Brady yet? No? No? Oh my god,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: you really got it? Why I really don't. So listen,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: we all know that my stance on Brady right like
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: he left us and decided I don't like him anymore. Ye.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: So I reluctantly was to see eighty for Brady because
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: on my pcast we decided we're going to draw review
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: on it. I put it off to last minute. I
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: went last night at ten twenty pm alone and you guys,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: I cried in theater. It was fantastic, is that right? Year?
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: It was phenomenal. The acting was great. It really like,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: you know the thing we do at Dulight the day
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: of pampering? Are you being paid to say this? I
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: don't know what's happened to my niece. I will both
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: see it with you. It was great. I mean, I
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: know WWE is scripted, but this I don't know about
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: this because even Aaron came in yesterday and said it
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: wasn't that good? So good? How could you think it
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: wasn't good? It was about these women who were best
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: friends and cancer and how the team brought them together.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: It was really everything you just mentioned is a Hallmark movie.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: I'm not interested. I think you would love it, friend, Okay,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: I might, I might. I'm only being you know, snarky
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: go on this like wild super Bowl trip, no accidents. Yeah, toombling,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: Oh of course, very good. Yeah, okay, sounds like a
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: weekend at the Parlo House. Yeah wow. Um if when
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: it comes on cable, I'll definitely watch it. But I'm
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: not going to the movie theater to see that and
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: then tell me we could do a whole review. Okay,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: I'm surprised you still have our numbers, honestly, you know, yeah,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: I mean the fact that she still interacts with me
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: is like right, I'm so proud. Yeah. Well, Paul gave
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: me bad gambling advice recently on Northeastern month basketball, so
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: we've kind of been struggling. I told you not to
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: bet on Northeastern. It was bad about that um by
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: ten and nineteen. By the way, Megan, I really liked
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: your interview with the German wrestlers. Yeah, and I gave
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: you advice about not jumping onto the other and use
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: bandwagon And what's happened since I know they get ranked
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: and when they lost to Illinois and then the Maryland
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: it's blowing big leads too. I told you, Yeah, so
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: do you miss using? Do you miss us? You guys?
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: I miss you dearly, I really do. I missed talking
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: football every day. Yeah, I miss you too, you know
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: I miss you. I miss I miss your attitude, your enthusiasm. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: yeah I do. I you know. Yeah, you know, like,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: for example, going to eighty for Brady by yourself just
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: because you wanted to see it. I mean, that's not
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: everybody would do that. And now you've you've got it,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: You've you can have an informed opinion on the subject.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: Like that show you went to an indie that year
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: by yourself? What was that show that was a cabaret?
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: What was it? I went to a comedy show yea,
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: and Paul and Andy were making fun of me because
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: they said everybody coming out of the show was in
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: high school. This is true. I know it's hard to believe.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: But Paul and Andy were making fun of Megan. What
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: were you guys side spying on her? How do you
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: know who was coming on it? Because we were out
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: and about, Okay, I think we I think we had
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: plans to meet up for drinks after. Ye Well, Megan
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: that the hour in ticket, which is very unfortunate. Yeah,
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: but it still exists though, right, Yeah, they still have it.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: But you get drink tickets. This is at the hotel
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: that everyone stays. You can only have so many other words, right,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: But I hear there's a lot of people who don't
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: use them that if you know the right people, you
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: can get extracts. I used to take it up so
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: I could save some money later. Oh yeah, sure, sure,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: Well Megan, it's good to hear from you. Always good
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: to hear from you. Guys. We got to get to
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: a show Friday night, SmackDown next time we're in the area.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: Coming absolutely. And for those who haven't seen eighty for Brady,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: Megan's review is positive review, five stars. You gotta go
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: see it. Not winning any awards, but it is in
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: my heart. Okay, all right, you were crying, You were
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: sobbing like a child's unreal. Ye all right, I don't
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: know what's happened to her. Yeah, I could. I traded
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: you better than this for different reasons. I spent fifteen
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: dollars on this, all right, Megan. We'll talk to you soon,
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: all right, thanks for Carl. Appreciate it, mobi mate. Yeah,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: she's just got great enthusiasm. She's really she's the best.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: She's just have too many bad days. Now that one nope,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: Marks and Bolton calling in on the stick and hot line.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: What's up? Mark? Hey, a few weeks ago I was
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: the trade doown guy and got a little pushback. Now
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: Bill Perry and everybody else on this trade doown bandwagon.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but anyway, but also, well one thing with
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: that though, I also said, you're not gonna get a
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: trade down unless somehow one of the four quarterbacks falls
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: to at fourteen, and I don't think it's very likely.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: So I think the tradeown is really unlikely unless, you know,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: unless one of those things happened. I don't know, but
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's it's all dependent on a quarterback.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: That's a big piece though, Ye box right about that.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: But you know, we traded down last last year from
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: where we were fifteen last year twenties. We were in
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: the twenties last we made the playoffs. Last year, that's right,
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: was the year before. We don't remember our success. The
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: year before we were when we picked Mac we were fifteen, fifteen,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: and then we were I think we were twenty one
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: and traded down to like twenty eight or something like that. Yeah,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: so so yeah, well anyway, that being said, um, but
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: once i'd like to see the patriot take a risk
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: with a wide receiver and go for like a type,
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: a flamboyant type. You know, I think that we're just
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: I think we'll take criminals or near criminals at cornerback.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: But oh, we don't seem to want to do that
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: at a wide receiver. But what I mean, I don't
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: think they want to take criminals at any piece. Yeah,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I thought that was an
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: interesting choice of words. Um, but like in terms of
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: but but Mark, hold on, I understand what you're saying.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to nitpick on the semantics like fred Wood.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: I think it's fair. These are kids the like I
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: would take issue a little bit um by saying, like,
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: for once, I wish they would take a risk on
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: a wide receiver. And I think that's when they get
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: in trouble. Is that taking rid like I mean, Nikil
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: Harry was not you know, a safe pick at wide
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: receiver obviously. UM, I know what you're saying. You want
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: like a guy with a big personality. You know, you
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: said the word criminal, and I know that that's not
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: necessarily what you meant. You're talking about a guy who
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: garners a lot of attention and you know type a
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: you know, in your face kind of you know, cocky,
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: confident wide receiver. Right, that's what you're looking for. Yeah, okay, um,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: you know I wanted in the trade down. I'm getting
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: off the subject, but well, we did have a kid
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: that knocked off a Panda express ye as a cornerback
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: yep um. And he's a player and I like him.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: I think Jack Jones is a heck of a player.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: So we'll see. Um, well, I wanted to get to
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: I got three players. I got three players that I
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: want I think that could change our offense that are
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: realistic in the draft. Um. And one of those is
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: talking to this you know, sort of controversial wide receiver
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: is Kashawn boot you know wide receiver LSU. I know
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: he's had some sort of he set them back and
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: forth with coaches. Um, and that's his sort of problem.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: But yeah, he's a Deebo Samuel type six ft two
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: y five and he can play inside outside. Yeah, and
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: I think that you know, he's a guy I really like.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: Second guy six six two fifty five Oregon State type
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: then runs a four or five ish Luke Musgrave, Um,
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: I think we need that new style, fight end and
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: get up the field, can get separation and can take
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: over the middle of the field. And last, but not least,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: I think we need a third down back, traditional third
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: down back, and I like do spawn Kansas State, you know,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: sort of a Darryl Sprowles five six, one seventy five
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: type player. So, um, I just those those are three guys.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: They're not they're not huge names. Yes, they are all
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: three of the type players I can can do something. Yeah,
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: those are those are high profile players. All three. Boutet
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: is a guy who if heading into last year, was
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: even higher ranked. It's like, you know, they talked about
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: like Will Anderson, if he was came out of Alabama
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: last year, would have been the number one overall pick,
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: and you know now he's he's not going to go
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: number one overall. But those those are all good players.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: I just I just don't know how realistic it is
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: to like we're gonna get the the you know, the
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: best playmaking the you know, the best all around receiver,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: the best playmaking uh tight end, and the best pass
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: catching running back. You know, they might be able to
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: get one of those guys. You can probably fourth round,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: fourth round pick yeah, so you don't think everybody else
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: wants to do that too. Well, I don't know if
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: he's I think I don't know someone gonna take him
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: in the third round. No, I'm saying the fourth like
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: he's a fourth round kind of guy. Third, fourth, fifth round. Yeah,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: but like right, and we got the fourth pick in
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: the fourth round. Um, so I don't think that that
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: much of a stretch. I'm not saying it's a stretch.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: It's a stretch to get all three of them, is
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: what I said. Yeah, well, I'm not saying it's a
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: wretch to get duce Vaughn. Yeah right. I mean those
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: are not under the radar players. Those are high profile players,
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: all three of them, like to the point where I
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: know who they all are and I don't even do
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: draft research yet. Well I'm bold, Okay, Well, I mean
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, you know who they are, but not any
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: of them are projective first round. No, but we're not
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: talking about the first round comes. I think that, you know,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: I think Musgrave could blow up the combine all right,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: the other really high profile tight ends that are already
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, yeah, all right, thanks for the call. Market. Well,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: I don't think I mean, I don't think they're going
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: to take a tight end at fourteen. So you're looking
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: at you know, I don't think. I'm not telling you
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: they won't. I don't think they will take a tight
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: end at fourteen. So you're looking at the Luke Musgraves
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: of the world, Like, you know, once you get second, second,
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: third round, you know, beyond the first round. Rashads in Baltimore.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: What's up with Shad? Hey? What's up? What's up? Hey? Um?
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: All right, people, I start. I have to say the
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: the the argument last week that y'all had the um
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: the blue chip players, the blue chip player argument and
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: the back and forth, and then you then you at,
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: you know, telling Mike you know why you switching. I
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: loved all that y'all y'all had me. I had to
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: I had to step off. I had to step off
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: my desk at work because I was I was that
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: was just another class we could entertain. Good, good, That's
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: what's then our job was done that day? Correct? Great? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, perfect?
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: But um, I'm gonna I'm gonna go on the draft. Now.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: Last week Evan was like, you know, if you if
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: you want a wide receiver, you know, put a name
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: on it. So, you know, like this past week and
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: I just been looking at players and I pretty much decided,
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: like I really think the Patrins should go corner or tackle,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: Like I do want a wide receiver, but like I mean,
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: I think Evan Wright, like I don't. I don't think
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: it's nobody that works, you know, the fourteen unless we
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: trade back. You know, I don't even think they should
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: pick a wide receiver at fourteen. Not going to be
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: that number one guy. He'll you know, he he'll be good.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: But if you're going to pick somebody at fourteen and
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: that's a wide receiver, I want them to be I
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: want them to be a you know, justin Jefferson, you know,
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: somebody like that. But I've been looking at I've been
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: looking at corners, and I like the guy Deontay Banks,
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: you know, from Maryland. It's also this other pinner, Tyree
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: Stephenson from from Miami, and I was looking at this
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: is uh sas and stuff. It looked like he got
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: good man coverage to six. But so I'm like, you know,
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: if we don't get somebody, if we get a tackle
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: on the first round, we can get somebody like Campbell's
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: projected to go second third and then also, uh, I
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: like the quarterbacks from Alabama elive rick Um. I think
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: it's a it's another pointerer from South Carolina. I think
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: it's named Cam Smith or Sunting I was. You know,
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: I'm just looking at players that I think the Patriots should,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: you know, should pick on and not and not the
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: people that's like the Tayvorn Wilsons. You know, I don't.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: I don't want to the people that's projected to go
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: lower and then want the name brand. Yeah. Yeah. And
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: I also want to say one more thing. I don't
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: want the Patriots to take a risk, like I want
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: them to take the small decision, Like I don't want
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: to take a risk. And then we got a Nikille
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: Hurry or you know, and Isaiah went, I want them.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: I want them to take the right approach. Yeah, you
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: want that. You want the twenty twenty one draft and
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: not the twenty twenty two draft. In twenty twenty one,
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: they went for name brands to Alabama to Oklahoma in
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: the first four picks. I'm not a big like, that's
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: not how it has to be for me. Yeah, Like
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: I know a lot of people, you know, like I'll
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: take another Kyle Dugger. It's not a name brand guy.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: I want them to pick good players. Well, yeah, I
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: know it sounds some place. Kyle Tugger was pegged to
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: go in the second round. Yeah, but most so was
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: a lot of the other guys they took Cold Strange. No,
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: that's not That's what I'm but But but if he
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: was good, I wouldn't have any problem with it. Right
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: he was. He was average at best and got yanked
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: out of three at least three games. But I'm just
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: saying that cold Strange was picked ahead of where he
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: was projected. You know. That's all. Yeah, you are correct,
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: that's all. Yep. But in Rashad is like, no, I
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: want the consensus. If he's our first round consensus, let's
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: pick him. If he's not, don't pick him, right, No,
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: I but that that to me is the more important part.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: Like we picked Christian Barnwore because that's where you're supposed
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: to get taken, right, like, not because we went name
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: brand with Alabama. Yeah, I mean you know, in the room,
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: like if if they have any doubt, like if if
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: any doubt or like anything like that, then you should
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: move the you should move to the next player, you
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: should move to the next player. Yep, yep, I hear you.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: All right, thanks for Sean. I appreciate the call. All right.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: So I think, um, people are getting anxious here. Uh
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah. They want a chance to win a
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: T shirt. So I'll do one. I'll say the trivia question.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: Uh it's show related. First person who emails the first
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: the correct answer to web radio at Patriots dot com
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: gets the T shirt and then you'll send Matt your
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: home address that we're in size so we can get
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: it out to you. So the question is, and this
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: is an easy one. Everyone should be able to get this.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: So this is about speed. It's about speed, not knowledge speed.
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  Speaker 1: What innovation has Fred been trying to impose on the
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  Speaker 1: world of hygiene? What innovation has Fred been trying to
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  Speaker 1: impose in the world of hygiene? Matt, keep an eye
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  Speaker 1: out on the web radio at patriot dot com for
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: the first correct answer, and that person will win a
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  Speaker 1: T shirt if you want. Already. Last week gives some
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: other people. This is one of the ones that I submitted.
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  Speaker 1: And if this one takes a long time to get answered,
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: that that's something I think that's just poor to me.
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  Speaker 1: I already have a winner, and who is the winner? Matt, Nice,
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  Speaker 1: Cody and Indian. All right, so you can stop answering
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: everybody because they're coming, they're flying in. But it is
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: Cody in Indiana was the first one. The answer is
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: soap with a slot of course. All right, so we've
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  Speaker 1: got I'm gonna do two. I'm gonna do another one,
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  Speaker 1: another one, and maybe we'll do one at the end
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  Speaker 1: of the show as well. If we get another quick
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: response like that one, we could save one for a
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  Speaker 1: little later. Okay, so I'll do one. Um, this one
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: goes back a little bit, but we recently talked about it,
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: so if you're a recent listener and you do keep notes,
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: you might know the answer to this as well as
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: our old timers who wrote, oh did I already do
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: this one? Okay? Who wrote the first PFW in Progress
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: theme song? Who wrote the first PFW in Progress theme song?
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: These are original songs. So that is the question. Let's
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  Speaker 1: see if anyone comes in with that right away. If not,
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: I'll just let it go and up we do have
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: an answer. Wow, Wow, that was fast. That was fast. Matt.
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  Speaker 1: Who's the winner? Andrew and Bradford Nice, Andrew Andrew in Bradford.
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  Speaker 1: Is that uh mass, I guess I don't know. The
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  Speaker 1: answer is, mister Lyff and he got it, all right,
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: so good, good job. We'll do one at the end
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: of the show as well, so keep listening. Um, but
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: UM love to give away these T shirts. So we've
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: also had a lot of people who said, you know,
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: I just want to buy one. Um. We are working
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: on getting them up on the Fanatics store. We'll so
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: the Patriots section of Fanatics keep an eye out there.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: Looks like we'll have some T shirts for sale over there.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: So wow, people, man, we had there's a lot of
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: people listening that don't call our email normally because my
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: email box is just full. Right, who is that something,
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: isn't it? Everybody wants free crap? Well, plus, it just
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: shows you how many more people are listening to us
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: than participate and participate. But that's fine. We don't all
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: just that. No, but that's a good thing. Yeah, that's
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: a good thing. Yea, all right, um, good stuff. All right,
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: So let's get to the emails that are coming in
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: that don't have anything to do with the T shirt.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: Let's go to Sam in North Carolina. He writes, He
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: wants to talk about Mac. He says, why does it
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: have to be Mac is the guy? Or get rid
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: of him? He's on a rookie deal, didn't get a
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: fair shake last year, was a first round pick, and
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: there's not the next goat quarterback out there to acquire.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: Let's give the guy a chance and we can move
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: on when the option comes due. I think this is
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: where most fans and media stand. I think that's a
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: really interesting way of looking at it, and I think
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: it's nuanced a little bit. I get what he's saying.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like that? Yeah? I think I think
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: I think if you were to poll, you know, do
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: another one of Paul's polls, most people I think would
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: be in that Caddie or lad give him a shot. No,
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: But I think that that's too we're arguing two different things.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: I think he's saying, why does it have to be
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: he is the guy? Or we have to get rid
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: of him? Right, he's saying, even if you're sort of
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: in the middle there, why don't you just middle it
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: for a little while? Yeah, Okay, that's what he's saying. Like,
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: because I think if you if the day that you
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: think he's the guy, you want to do whatever you
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: can to lock him up. The day that you are
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: convinced he's not the guy, I think you need to
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: move on. Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. I
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: do because you know what I think of. I think of.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: And this is another one that's fairly topical. Yesterday Carson
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: Wentz was released by Washington. Right, So that's three teams
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: in three years that wash their hands of Carson Wentz, Philly, Indy,
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: and now Washington. If Philly had said there and said
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: we invested in this guy, look what he did for
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: us in twenty seventeen before he got hurt. He was
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: the you know, the presumptive MVP for a team that
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: was good enough to win the Super Bowl, and they
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: just decided to ignore all the warning signs and held
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: on to him. Then you don't get Jalen Hurts, and
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: you don't go back to another Super Bowl. Yeah no,
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: like in teams make that mistake. But and I think
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: like he was falling off a cliff right in front
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: of them right now. I'm not suggesting that Mac Jones
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: has played as bad as Carson Wentz. I don't believe
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: that to be the case. So don't attack me. But
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying that's the mentality. Like if you decide,
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: like like, if I'm in the middle of those two,
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: then I don't I need to look for another guy. Yeah,
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: I don't see how anyone could really honestly have an
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: opinion either way yet, Like, I can't see how you
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: could definitely definitively say he's the guy as much as
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: you could definitively say he's not the guy. I think
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: I don't have it. I don't know yet. You're probably
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: going to have another year. Yeah, and then my guess
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: is a lot of people will sort of middle it again,
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: and there'll be a lot of talk either way. I
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: think they'll be arguments either way. Yeah, And in my
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: point of view, I would be looking to move on
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: if that's the case, because, like I said, I think
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: it's pretty I think it becomes clear pretty quickly when
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: a guy is going to lift you. Now, I think
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: you can have a situation where the San Francisco model,
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: where you can surround him with eliteness all over the
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: place and you can get by. I don't think that's
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: a great way to go about business. I think that's
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: a hard, hard thing to do. Let's see Chris writes
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: in from New Hampshire, you got to get mac weapons
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: is a common refrain. I'm not expecting any major moves
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: with a mostly unchanged roster. I expect a slightly better
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: version of Max Ricky year. If that happens, what do
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: you do? QB and coach? I love Bill, However, what
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: have you done for me lately? If it's not better
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: than his rookie year, then you have a disaster on
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: your hands. He said it was slightly better. No, but
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: I'm saying if it's not better than you like three
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: years in, if you're not way better than you were
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: as a rookie, it's a disaster. Yeah. Yeah, Yeah, He's
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: got to be remarkably better than anything we've seen so far,
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: because it's you know, like even if Matt Patricia was
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: still his OC his third year, he should be better, right,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: you know, let's see Neil and New Brunswick. Last week
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: someone jokingly asked about Billy oh unlocking John U. Smith. Well,
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: if you look at the contract, we'd better pray he does.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: He's got tons of dead cap in a high salary
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: and no production, not good for cutting or trading. What
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: was built? Thinking on the contract if no unlocking happens,
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: it's one of the worst free agent deals in league history,
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: he says, So there you go. It just hasn't I mean,
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: it just hasn't worked. But Jonas Smith, he hasn't really
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: given him much at all. Yeah, Rich in New York
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: City says, what are your thoughts on Damian Woody's statement
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: that the Patriots being irrelevant has got to be eating
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: craft up? I think there's some truth to that. Absolutely,
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: who wants to be irrelevant? Yeah? I mean he's this
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: is a business first and foremost, and you know, you're
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: not going to have a good business in the NFL
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: if no one cares about you, and the worst thing
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: you can have is apathy, right you know? So Yeah,
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: I'm sure ros why a lot of people at the
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: time made a big deal of the Patriots getting flexed
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: out of that Sunday night game with the Raiders last year. Remember, Yeah,
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: that's why, because those kinds of things don't sit well
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: with people. Jay and Nappa. I want a freaking T shirt,
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: he says. If a guy who's been listening since OZ
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: three h four, not really or can't get a T shirt,
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: at least put on Fred and the lobster bisk for
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: the PFW from the past. It's a lobster what's the
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: lobster bisk? Didn't you argue whether or not that's a soup?
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think there was an argument of
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: whether or not that soup it's soup has a ceiling.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's kind of cloudy. But I think
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: you and that's definitely a you and Andy argument. Yeah,
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know if we said is bisca chowder or
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: a soup or you know, soup has a ceiling? Can
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: only be so good? That was an Andy ism, It
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: can only be so good? Oh right, I don't know. Wow,
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: you don't remember any of it? No, I do. I
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: know I love lobster bisk. So now I'm guessing that
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: that Fred's I mean that Andy was arguing with you
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: about whether or not it's a soup. Yeah, I do
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: love it matter. I do love a good lobster bisk,
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: no doubt, no doubt. Um. Christian the Cuban writes in
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: out of all the positions of need edge oats wide
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: receiver in cornerback, which would you say you want them
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: to acquire for the next year edge tackle wide receiver
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: or corner corner. Yeah, which do I want to draft
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: or you know, trade, draft or free agency? Which I
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: don't care. Yeah, I mean that's sort of a nuanced question,
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: which I like because it all depends on what you
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: think you can acquire. Now, if I had my choice,
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: like nothing, I'd like to trade for a wide receiver,
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: an established wide receiver. You want someone who can just
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: walk step right in. Yeah, yeah, yeah, But my guess
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: is that's not really realistic. You know. I know a
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: lot of people have talked about this before, but in
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: the modern NFL, more and more wide receivers from college
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: are just stepping right in. Yeah. That used to not
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: always be the way, but it seems more prevalent now
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: because the college game has changed. These guys are coming
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: in a little bit more, you know, uh NFL ready,
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: and the offenses are geared more towards what I agree
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: all around here. I think that's that's that's a good probably.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, it might be simplistic, but I think it's
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: it's rooted in some truth. Um let's see who's this.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: Anthony writes in and he says, if Josh, I'm assuming
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: he means Josh McDaniels is interested in Mac? Would you
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: deal him and a twenty twenty four second round pick
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: for the number seven pick? So you give the Raiders
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: Mac and a second round pick for their number seven. Yeah,
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: you would do it. I would do that. And who
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: would you take? I don't know. Would you take a quarterback?
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: Depends on who's available. Let's say say none of them are.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't take well then, so you know, but so
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: but but in other words, you would do this without
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: a guarantee that you're going to get a quarterback out
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: of the draft. Yeah, and then you just kind of
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: signed Jimmy Garoppolo or something like that. Yeah, okay, you
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: talked me into it with your hypotheticals, all right. You
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: then be in a position to take either Levis Is that?
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: Is that how you say? Yeah? Or Richardson as a
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: new quarterback of the future and maybe signed Jimmy g
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: or another veteran to play until the new quarterback is ready.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: Would you rather do that or deal probably at twenty
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: twenty four first and fourth for t Higgins in roll
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: with Mac? Is that what it's going to take to
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: get t Higgins? Yeah? Probably something like that. Are you
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: willing to first and or fourth for te Higgins. I
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: would do that too. M Yeah, I mean it's the
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: way you talked about it. Fred. It's a bigger risk
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: trading Mac without knowing you're going to get a quarterback. Yeah,
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: like if you if you can get Stroud or or Young,
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: then that's different. You're not going to get them at seven. However,
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: these kinds of trades offering get get made with knowledge
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: of future trades. So if you can get up to seven,
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: then it's not that hard to get up to three, yeah,
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: where you might be able to get one of those guys. Yeah, right, yep.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: So I think that's that's the way I would look
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: at it. That's that's that's how I would go about it. Uh.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: Megan from Topeka, Kansas Rights in when do you think
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: teams will start trading players before free agency starts are during? Um, Well,
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: they can't until March fifteenth. They can't, they can't become
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: official until March fifteenth. But it can happen. I think
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: we've seen it happen before someone got traded last year.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: I remember also Paul the Carson Wentz trade. Well, if
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: I'm just watching Carson Wentz highlights right now, I think
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. That trade from India to Washington was was
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: made before the league year started. Now it obviously doesn't
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: become official until the league year. Also, Paul, who do
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: you hope we trade for? Also living in Chiefs Kingdom,
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: I just want to tell you all the fans out
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: here are so annoying and I've been threatened just for
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: not liking the Chiefs. So long story short, I'm ready
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: for the Chiefs to not win like they have been. Yeah,
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: that I could totally understand if I lived in another
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: fan bases area. That would get tiresome. Yeah, wide receivers.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: I think we've talked about like the Jerry Judy's and
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: the t Higgins of the world. You know a lot
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: of people still like the idea of DeAndre Hopkins. I'm
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: not as high on that as as others are, even
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: though he's a great player. Yep, I don't know. I
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: don't know who you know. We had a caller earlier
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: bring up Michael Pittman from the Colts, which I thought
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: was a different name than the ones that we normally hear.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: I just I'm just interested in in that kind of player. Yeah,
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: someone who's has an established track record. Who who you
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: could step in and be, uh, you know, a definite,
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: like a discernible upgrade to your depth chart. Back to
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: the phones, John's and Duxbury. What's up, John, Hi, gentlemen,
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: how are you okay? Doing great? John? Yeah? Well, Paul,
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: I hope you're on the same wavelength with me that
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: the Patriots should be traded up, not backwards. Yeah. I
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: mentioned that earlier. If there's a you know, a paucity
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: of blue chip prospects, I don't know why that means
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: you have to trade down. They Paul got eleventh draft picks,
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: the steed More. They need to get ahead of it
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: uts and take one of those three tackles if they're available,
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: take it. I want them taking the top pick. I
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: don't want the faudi it in the sixtieth players for
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: their fourteenth pick. That's stupid. Yeah, I mean I kind
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: of agree. I kind of agree. If there's a guy
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: that they target and you can get them by by
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: sliding up a handful of spots, I think that's something.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: As you mentioned, John, they have a lot of picks,
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: so they have a lot of ammunition to move up. Yeah,
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: they don't need anymore. And you know, I can't wait
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: till the Jets sign the raatest quarterback. That would continue
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: they have last place finishes. I don't know. I gotta
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: tell you right now, if if Derek Carr was the
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: Jets quarterback last year, they would have made the playoffs probably.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: Well yeah, but if Derek is gonna lose us, you're
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: not gonna win anything. Well, you're not gonna win. I'm
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: not gonna win a title with him, absolutely, absolutely agreed.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: But it does make them a better team. They would
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: have made the playoffs with him as their quarterback last year.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: Thanks John, Derek Carry. He's kind of gone on a
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: roller coaster for me. Like there was I thought he
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: was a joke, and then you know, two years ago
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: he really showed a lot of leadership and I was like, Okay,
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: I like this guy. But then last year, I don't
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: know what happened, but he got benched, you know, and
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: the word was that he was off script too often. Yeah,
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: for Josh's liking, he was improvising too much. Yeah, I
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: don't know how much truth is to that. But so
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Like he's okay, Like I don't think
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: he's any more than what most other people think he is.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: But that's a team that won seven games with no
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: quarterback play. Yeah, I think they could have. I think
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: they could have won two or three Yeah. Yeah, I
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: think they could have won two or three more games
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: with with adequate quarter adequate quarterback play. And I think
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: two of them may have been against you. Yeah, those
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: two games could have gone either way. Ye William and
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: Phil him? What's up? William? Hey? What's going on for it?
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: What's up? Okay? Um, I got a question to ask
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: you about when Bill Bill takes time. I guess I
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: don't know who makes it, makes the contracts up and whatnot.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: So I'm just trying to figure out how how does
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: that work? So okay, you got JUDEI and nothing Aggivar,
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: So how do you decide how much to pay him
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: and whatnot. It's there's a lot of research that goes
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: into it with players of the same you know, similar
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: amounts of experience in the league, production at their various positions,
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: and what other guys make. So it's it's like anything else.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: It's like the law. And by the way, William, just
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: so you know, like there's like this Management Council database,
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: you know, portal all the teams have access to every
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: contract of every other team, so there's no secrets out there.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: So it's you know, every team has guys on their
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: staff that that's what their job is to. You know, Okay,
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: give me, you know, give me the average salary for
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: wide receiver four years in the league with this amount
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: of stat and those answers are at their fingertips because
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: they have access to all the c that's you know,
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: that's where like Mike Reese had his item on Jacobe
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: Myers that we talked about earlier in the show, right,
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: and he brought up I thought Mike did a good
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: job of giving you a couple of comps in Christian
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: Kirk in Jacksonville and Hunter Renfro in Las Vegas, and
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: they you know, and no two guys are exactly the same,
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: but they had similar amounts you know, of seasons in
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: the league, in similar production in terms of receptions, yards, whatnot.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: So those guys made X amount of money. That's where
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: you come up with the fifteen to twenty million dollars
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: range because that's where those two guys fell. Hunter Renfro,
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: I think, was signed a two year, thirty two million
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: dollar contract and Christian Kirk signed a big you know,
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: a longer term deal for big money. So that's where
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: they fall. I think he's seventeen annual Christian Kirk. So
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: that's why people are looking at Jacobe Myers as a
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: guy who could make some way between fifteen and twenty million.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: And that's why I like so. You know, reportedly, so
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: many teams were upset at the Deshaun Watson contract because
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: it threw the quarterback correct, you know, trend out of whack.
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: Like if you're Lamar Jackson and you've been on the
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: field and you've been winning games while this guy was,
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: you know, suspended, how can you not say, well, well,
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: you gave it to him. You got to give that
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: to me, right, I agree, Yeah, I agree, I have
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: I had one more question, and I said, this is
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: kind of a real kind of big question too. So
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: all right, so we all know that we need a
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: number one wid out though, but here's the question in
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: the I don't think no one's asking I'm gonna ask this,
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: Why did it take you so long to do this
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: when you had opportunities? You have Brandon, could you trade
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: him off? You could have had you could have had
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: a lot of receivers at this point. Why did you
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: wait so long, then then the greatest quarterback as he's gone. Man,
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: you see what Matt can do? You know he can't
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: do it yet or or if he can't at all,
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know, he can't, you know, not what this
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: not what not? What the weapons that you have? You know,
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: you gotta get premium talent now. So I don't I
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: don't understand why will keep. I mean, I mean none
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: of us know exactly why. But you know, we can
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: only surmise that it's a philosophical thing. You know. He
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: they you know, and they could be part of the
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: owner too. They just didn't want to spend that much
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: of the cap. And I know the cap is crap,
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: but that percentage of a cap on one player who's
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: not a quarterback, you know. And uh but I think
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: in today's NFL, the wide that playmaking wide receiver is
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: he's not as important as a quarterback, but he's up there.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: You know, the value of that position has just gone.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: It's skyrocketed in this league. But because the league is
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: designed to throw the ball. Yeah, I just feel like
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: that there's this notion that so and so good overpaid.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: This guy got overpaid. If they want to give silly money.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: And you look at the franchise numbers for offensive line,
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: defensive end, defensive tackle, linebacker, wide receiver, they're all between
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: eighteen and twenty one million. Yeah, so there's not like
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: a skyrocketing number that's out of whack or whatever. This
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: is what players cost. This is to me, it's a
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: changing economy in the league that's coinciding with the rapid
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: rise in salary cap. Yeah. So to your point, Fred,
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: if there's a percentage that that teams have stuck in
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: their head, it's getting it. But it's probably not all
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: that different, right, because the number might be the salary
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: might be much different, but the percentage wise for the
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: cap is probably not that different. And all of those
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: positions that the ones that are diff the outliers. Obviously,
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: quarterback is far and away the high. I think there's
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: like thirty two thirty three million. Running Back is lower,
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: tight end is lower, right, like most of the other positions.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: I think safety is lower. Corner, right, you know, corner,
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: defensive line, offensive line, edge rusher, wide receiver, they're all
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: the same. Middle linebackers probably this year, you know, um,
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 1: but yeah, those impact positions. Yeah, and then you look
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: at some of this. Roquan Smith just just got a huge,
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: huge bag of money from Baltimore. So like even then,
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: this is what players cost. Yeah, and if you don't
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: want to pay with players cost, you're gonna fall behind. Yep.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just I'm scared. As head of this offseason.
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: You said to be surprised and stuff, Paul, but we're
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: talking about Bill Belichickie, I am scared. I am dead
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: series man from Yeah, I get it free to see
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: to the draft? Oh my god. So I just all
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: I'm meant to do with this pray to them, to
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: the football guy, please God to to pick somebody players.
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: All right? I mean I understand where Williams coming from
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: because we've watched this guy for twenty plus years and
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: we know how he wants to set up his team.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: And my question would be to you, Fred, and I
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't have the answer. I'm no expert
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: by by no means um. You know, does he have
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: to change in order to win at the level that
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: he's accustomed to winning? Right? I would say the answer
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: is yes, yeah, And to assume that he is going
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: to is us don't know? And I and I'm not
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: saying that this is what they're doing. But if they
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: if they're trying to build the team so that it's
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: good for a decade, I don't think you can have
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: that type of vision anymore in the NFL, you know,
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: Like I don't. I think I think you can, but
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: only when you get the quarterback. But I just think it's, yeah, well,
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: that's when you have the home So Josh Allen or Burrow, Okay,
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: you can think ten years down the road, but until
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: you have that quarterback, there's no sense and look down
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: the road. I don't want to look ten years down
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: the road as a fan of a team. I only
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: care about now. Yeah so, And I think it's so
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: easy in that league to mix and match parts. Yeah so,
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: I think building a team that's a stayle for a decade,
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: I don't think that that's the NFL these days unless
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: you've got one of the four or five top quarterbacks
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: in the league. And really there's only that many, you know, Like,
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: I guess you could throw Rodgers into that mix, but
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: he's getting old. You're not gonna look ten years ahead
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers, you know. So it's it's hard to do.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: You need that quarterback once you get that quarterback. Okay,
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: now you can start looking at the future, but until then,
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: you gotta look at like this year and next year,
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: Kevin and Dublin. I'm growing worried about Bill's management of
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: the staff, both coaching and playing. More broadly, the notable
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: decrease in Bill's ruthlessness of years past has corresponded with
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: a rise in locker room leaks and player pressure. I
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: get that it's not always necessary to rule with an
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: iron fist, but I think Bill has invited trouble by
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: refraining for making swift, tough decisions on players descent and
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: coaching mediocrity. Still a great coach, but as he lost
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: the edge in terms of management. I don't really have
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: the answer to that. Well, like you know, okay, when
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: it comes to coaching, we were talking about this a
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: few weeks ago. I don't remember Bill ever firing a
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: coach mid season, have you you know, like ruthlessness? No, yeah,
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: so like mad season. Yeah, maybe maybe there was never
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: a reason to do it. But like you know, I've
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: seen other teams do that, but Bill has never done that.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: Does that mean he's not ruthless? I don't know, but
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: he's never done that. But I will say that. I
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: the other part of what he talked about, I don't
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: remember these kinds of leaks coming, the kind of information
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: that could consistently came out of the locker room right
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: the last couple of years. I don't ever. But does
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: that happen when you're not winning on any team? I
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: think it does. I don't, I do, I don't. I
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: think that they've had mostly winning seasons around here. But
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: you didn't hear that kind of crap, No, because they've
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: had mostly winning season. But this is not the only
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: losing season they had. Okay, you go back to my point.
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: You going back to the day list Thomas year. You
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: heard a lot that year because they were dysfunctional in
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: the locker room. Yeah, but the only thing that you
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: heard coming out of that locker room in terms of
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: disgruntled was specifically to an individual for their treatment. In
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: other words, those four guys that were late, Yeah, for practice,
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: they were pissed off. Yeah, Like I'll go back to
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: but you will go back to Corey Dillon. He wasn't starting,
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: he was pissed off. Yeah, go ask Bill. Yeah, like
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: you didn't hear, like, I don't know what our game
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: plans are all about I've heard that for the last
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: couple of years. Yeah, I mean including inn at ten
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 1: and seventh season that they went to the playoffs. Yeah,
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: I think. I think a lot of that has to
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: do with no Tom Brady, believe it or not. And
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: and yes, a little bit of a lack of leadership
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 1: on the offense obviously, because you know, actions speak louder
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: than words, and we saw the actions as a result
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: of last year. And I think part of it is
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: a changing mindset for players. These players, and I used
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: this analogy all the time. These players are used to
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: just changing teams and you don't like a situation, just
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: transferred to or another school, go to another high school,
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: find a different coach that will understand you and figure
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: out the way you want to do it. And I
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: think that's part of it. These guys are like, no,
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna I'm not
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: I don't want that guy running my defense, i don't
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: want this guy calling players on my offense. I'm just
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: gonna bitch about it. Because that's a lot of that
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: is kind of generational for you and I. You know,
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: we're old guys. Fred, you would have never thought to
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: openly question the coach's authority. Now you keep your mouth shut, right, Yeah,
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: you know you might think something, but you're not gonna
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: express it, right, Although I might have, but nowadays, I mean,
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: who doesn't express every thought they have? Ever? I know,
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: I know you put it out on your account. Darren
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: writes in what does bisku mean? It's a thick cream soup.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: It's a noun thick cream soup made with shellfish or game,
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: or a cream soup of vegetables, ice cream containing powdered
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: nuts or macaroons. I don't know anyway. Um, yeah, there's biscus,
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: there's chowder, there's stews, and then of course there's soups.
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 1: This gaspacho, which is cold soup. I don't like a spatcho.
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 1: Do you like a spot potato? Right? No, No, you're
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: thinking of nacchick, but not ever. No, gaspacho is cold soup,
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: cold soup. I don't. I don't like it. Yeah, I
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: don't think I've ever had. I don't think I know
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: from gaspacho. I've never had gaspacho. I don't think so,
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: I can't. I can't accurately commented whether or not I
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: like it. All right, it doesn't sound like something I
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: would like. Yeah, I mean to me, why have soup
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: if it's cold? I don't just have a V eight Fred.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: We're having a like we're having a nice show today,
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: You and I we're sort of lockstep. But if it's
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: a dessert soup, a dessert, a dessert soup like strawberry
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: cream soup or something, what the hell is that they
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: have that? It was good? Now, a moose is like
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: a pudding. Right, it was actually like a soup. It
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: was the soup and it was good, good, but it
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: was cold. That's why the spotsh made me think of it.
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be satisfied with that. Like, you know, I'm
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: gonna have dessert. I'm gonna have cake or ice cream.
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: It's not something that they're gonna give me this liquid
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: put in front of you at a wedding. Yeah, where
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: do you feel? Where do you fall on pies? That
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: dessert pie is a dessert? Pie is a dessert? Okay?
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah unless this chicken pot pie, and then it's a meal.
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: Good point by you, which I had last night. Chicken
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: pot pie is underrated midwinter. But but you can't have
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: the chicken pot pie with the peas and the carrots
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: in it. It's just gonna be chicken, gravy and the crust.
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: That's that's it. I don't need all the like you
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: don't like veggies, put them on the side if you
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: want them, don't But I like the carrots. Don't put
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: him in my pie. I don't like peas peas out
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: of my pie. Wow, yeah, you are very regimented. Yeah,
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: I like. I like just the chicken, the gravy, and
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: the and the flaky crust for my chicken pot pets.
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 1: It's like I said, it's a very under midwinter kind
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 1: of butt meal. You know. For the most part. Pies
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: to me are desserts. Are they not for you? Oh? Yeah,
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 1: yeah yeah? Why wouldn't they be? But well, I don't know.
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 1: You just said cake and ice cream, so I didn't
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: know if you were. I like pie. I love pie. Yeah, sure,
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: give me a pie. Stop laughing, man, Uh, let's see
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: any kind of who doesn't? Uh? I know what Matt's thinking?
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 1: Marks and Everett, what's up? Mark? Hey, guys, how are
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: you doing? I love either way, vegetavals or not, it
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter, okay, Because he's from God's country, he knows do.
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: I always agree with you, and I can't stand that,
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: but I do always agree with you, especially young. A
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: lot of guys are now. But I wanted to ask
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: this as a receiver number one thing. Stever really what
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: we need if we had him last year? Well we
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: have won any more games. I mean, Mac Jones. The
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: Office of Line was most of our trouble, wasn't it.
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: It really wasn't there Stever having another one or not?
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: Don't you think? I? Um? In general? Yeah, I agree.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: I think that there's a notion that if you just
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: get the weapons, everything is going to be magically fixed,
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: and I'm not sure that that would have fixed everything
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, I think the weapons they hatch should
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: have been better. I think a lot of people agree
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: with you, Fred, And you know who agrees with you
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: a lot? Who's that on my show? Felger? Oh yeah,
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: he says it constantly. Their weapons were better than they
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: showed last year. Time that we agree they had plenty
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  Speaker 1: to be more successful than that. On offense. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: agree with that. I've said it. I said it from
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  Speaker 1: them from the jump. Black was storing him in the
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  Speaker 1: ground People's heads, and he was towing people into danger.
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  Speaker 1: I definitely agree with that last one. Yeah, I think
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  Speaker 1: offensive blinds what we should have focus on. And maybe
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  Speaker 1: you're looking at maybe another quarterback or getting macked back
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: into his game. Okay, you guys, thank you all right,
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  Speaker 1: Thanks Mark, Thanks Mark, Um, You're good in God's Country. Dana, Virginia,
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  Speaker 1: Michigan says, apologies to the emailer if I have it wrong,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm guessing what he's talking about when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to bisk is Fred's comment that good lobster bisk is
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  Speaker 1: sex is like sex for your throat. I do remember
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 1: saying that. I do remember saying that. I don't. But
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  Speaker 1: that's even funnier than is like sex for your throat.
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  Speaker 1: He's not the only emailer to say it, so it
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  Speaker 1: must be true because yeah, there's a plus. It was Dan. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I wouldn't doubt Dan. Other email is saying
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  Speaker 1: you said sex in the mouth. Um, if you're looking
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  Speaker 1: for a good lobster bisk on the Cape, the Daniel
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  Speaker 1: Webster in Sandwich has an excellent lobster bisk. You have
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  Speaker 1: the the place down the cape. Oh yeah for everything. Well,
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  Speaker 1: if you haven't noticed, they eat out a lot because
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  Speaker 1: I don't cook but and my wife doesn't really particularly
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  Speaker 1: enjoy it either, so we eat out a lot. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: my wife and I eat out a lot too. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: um I I I enjoy the whole thing about eating out.
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  Speaker 1: I do you know, I like the sitting down, getting
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  Speaker 1: a drink, placing the water. I just you know what
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  Speaker 1: I really like when I like a like a Saturday night,
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 1: especially in the summer, if it's nice out, you get
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: to a place on the water and your table's not ready,
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 1: and you go to the bar and have you know,
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 1: maybe a couple of drinks while you're waiting for your table. Yeah,
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: And that that to me is like, see, I don't
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 1: cut this a couple of I don't perfect for me.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like having to be in a place where
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna have to move as soon as
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 1: they call my name. I like to just be where
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be and settle in. Fat. Yeah, it's not
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 1: about lazy. I don't want to move, I know. I
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: just I just want to be where I'm supposed to
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 1: be and settle in, get comfortable, and not have to
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 1: worry about Oh now I gotta move. I'll pay the
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 1: check now and take it to bring the tab. You know,
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: I don't want it to worry about that. I just
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 1: want to get my table. I want to sit. I
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 1: want to relax. I enjoy the I love that nice
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 1: like kind of summary. It's not like scorching hot, but
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 1: you're on the water, so it's close like that that
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 1: likes being at a barn all, you know, and it's
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 1: just relaxed. It's like sometimes like you go and you
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 1: sit and you feel like, you know, because they want
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 1: to turn the tables over. That's true. Like I just
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 1: want to go and I want to be out for
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 1: a couple hours and I want to enjoy the sort
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 1: of the atmosphere. That's true. And you know me, Freddy,
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 1: you know, as as an admitted D list celebrity, I
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 1: get recognized a lot of the bar. That's true. You know,
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 1: people want to buy me middle of lights. Yeah, and
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 1: who am I to deprive people of? Oh? There you go?
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 1: So for you, it's a business decision in all seriousness.
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 1: I get my wife and I when we're out, we
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 1: get into a lot of conversations with people at the bar.
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 1: I find that And I'm not overly extroverted in that way, right,
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 1: But when you're sitting at a bar, it just sort
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 1: of lent itself more. You hear somebody says, oh did
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 1: you mention? Yeah, it happens a lot when at the bar.
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 1: I enjoy that. Uh yeah, that's a night out. All right, Um,
• 1:59:53
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