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The IU Report with Grant Shouse: Football Media Day Reaction (July 25, 2025; Podcast 335.2) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

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[SPEAKER_01]: What you are listening to now is the IU report with Grant Shouse.
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[SPEAKER_01]: On this week's IU report Grant talks about IU football media day with head coach Kurt Sigmetti making waves once again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course IU football is going to be the main topic of the IU report for the next, I don't know, fifteen weeks or so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He also talks about his less than stellar experience.
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[SPEAKER_01]: going to think of the old house to watch the assembly ball TV team and Grant also honors the late Bob Hamilton.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're listening to the central Indiana Sports Report with your host, Greg Mengal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome, IU fans to the Central Indiana Sports Report with Grant Shows.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Grant is here with me today on the Riverside App to talk some football and some basketball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And media day was Tuesday Grant and what did we learn?
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[SPEAKER_02]: We learned that the charisma and the willingness of the head coach did not go anywhere in the off season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Went asked when it
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[SPEAKER_02]: why Indiana can't throw the home in home series with Virginia next season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The answer was pretty simple and it was that Indiana has taken the SEC's approaching to scheduling games and it's the fact that Indiana's non-conference schedule is very weak.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's weak this year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's weak next year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's weak in two years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's weak in three years and
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's week even and I think five years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know why he wants to do it like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have any problem with it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I really love the quote.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We want to take the approach that the SEC takes and he's right and I think even the rest of the conference is backing him up surprisingly in that statement.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And another quote I really liked from him is that
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[SPEAKER_02]: He said, before I retire, Coach Sigma, he said, before I retire, that stadium's going to look a whole lot different.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that could be kind of teasing to a renovation project coming in the next coming years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he also said that there will be a new press box at some point, which is I think good, because that press box is such an eye sore.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's, I mean, it's a trap.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He had almost the trotches.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's almost a joke for a big ten school.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Grant, speaking of jokes, I can't let you get away with this, not you with Coach Sigmaity, this SEC schedule.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me go through some of the games that SEC teams play this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Texas is at Ohio State, LSU's at Climbs and Alabama is at Florida State.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oklahoma takes on Michigan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Texas A&M plays Notre Dame, Florida plays Miami, Auburn plays Baylor, Missouri plays Kansas.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They can at least play someone like Kentucky or Virginia.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Give me a break.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's cool for the love of.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I see what you're saying, but the SEC only plays eight conference games.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the big tense playing nine games.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we're going to sit here and have that conversation the entire year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we're going to be talking here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a year up to that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's hope it doesn't cost them a playoff spot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't, I don't, I'm not sure that it will.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean,
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[SPEAKER_02]: If Indiana can run the table again and be eleven and one it's it's still going to be the same story there's still what if you're ten and two and they're borderline the committees going to go yeah they played Indiana state for
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know what to tell you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the schedule was made well in advance.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That Virginia series was not for this year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's for next year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he said they can't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, who's to stay, they can't pick up another power conference opponent for the next coming years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, those aren't those aren't set.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Those can get canceled.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Those can get added.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Those will get those can be made up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And this is what he wants.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know why that's that'd be a question you'd have to ask him honestly I try not to let the outside noise get to me because at the end of the day like I'm not sure that really matters like you play the game on the field you don't play the game on social media you don't play the game on on the podcast you know what I mean like
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[SPEAKER_02]: you play the game in between the white lines.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's more important to him and his staff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if other fan bases and hell, other staffs around the country want to be more concerned with that, then let them spend their time, let those other teams spend time talking about that and not talking about the game and not talking about how they want to go out there and beat somebody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My fair quote from him yesterday, and this is such a powerful coach's quote is that
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[SPEAKER_02]: Somebody asked him, what gives you the most satisfaction?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And his answer was simple, beating somebody's ass, gives him the most satisfaction.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If any, I mean, I feel like I probably every coach thinks that, but a lot of coaches don't say those things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What we love them?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, one of the things I've noted, and I noticed this literally from the very first press conference that he was introduced up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The guy is not very fond of the media.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's not the first Indiana coach and in the school's history to be fond of the media or to not be fond of the media.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think it's kind of funny watching him do the things he does up there like checking his watch, you know, everyone's on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll check in that watch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What time is it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I make questions.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We got left.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so when he, I think gets aggravated and gets frustrated with some of these questions.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because he's not at me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he's not a media guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And there's coaches like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you know, from your years of
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[SPEAKER_02]: cover and sports that there's just people who don't want to talk to the media.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They don't want anything to do with it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They do it because they're obligated to do it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But when he doesn't like questions or the questions are too stupid or whatever, and I've dealt with coaches like that too, then you give answers that make the interviewer or the questionnaire look stupid.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's why you get the kind of quotes that you get from him like, like, we beat the shit out of top twenty five teams.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, they don't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They haven't yet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we thought they would last year, but they haven't yet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's when you get the quotes like we've taken the SEC's approach to scheduling.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's when you get probably his most famous quote, the most famous quote in this guy's tenure and it came
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[SPEAKER_02]: before his first season is in Google me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's all about the psychiatric.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can look at how he treats people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I, I'm not saying he's a mean guy, you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I don't think he's a real guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like in person, I just think that he doesn't deal well with answering questions and when the questions are stupid and they're repeated all the time and just because those reporters are looking for
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[SPEAKER_02]: To get a quote like that to get something like Google me and I mean it is what it is I try not to look into that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just find it I find it That's why he says the things that he says that would be my answer to it But there's no excuse you should be playing Virginia I agree I I don't like that move of canceling the series.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I get what you're saying it's Virginia
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're not cancel in a series with Alabama.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're not canceling as a series with Georgia or taxes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is Virginia.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Indiana has played Virginia about almost say, say, probably seven, eight years together, played Virginia.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And one, I remember they won on the road at Virginia.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and he said that he wouldn't be opposed to having kind of a a conference challenge got like out college basketball has it were like a big tenteen plays an SEC team where they play an ACC team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He said he wouldn't be opposed to that and I would honestly as a fan I wouldn't be opposed to that either if you were able to set it up because TV would kind of dictate that you know they would want Ohio State to place the one like Alabama or Michigan to play
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[SPEAKER_02]: Texas or Oklahoma, and you give a team like Indiana, let him play, let him play Missouri, let him play Kentucky Vanderbilt.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Someone there speed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're going to try and get a good match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're not going to try and punish at school.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're not going to give Purdue Alabama to play.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're going to make the match up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You look at the SEC and you have programs like Missouri that solid Vanderbilt, which is kind of the SEC's version of Indiana a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, never have been good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then the last year or so, they have kind of flipped things around.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're cultures changed a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I would be opposed to Indiana playing an SEC school, but Indiana Ole Miss would be all get the SEC credit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Man, that schedule is just an absolute gauntlet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just an absolute rum of the mail.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's tough.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's always tough.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What are you hearing about Fernando Mendoza?
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[SPEAKER_02]: We've said it on here before and I'll say it again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll talk about it a lot more is that if you love or if you liked Curtis Rork, you're gonna love Fernando Mendoza and he's more mobile than Curtis Rork was not to make excuses but I think Curtis Rork and him playing on basically a, I don't want to say a broken leg but a torn ACL.
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[SPEAKER_02]: all of last season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think kind of derailed his mobility a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he had a tough time moving.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mendoza can move.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Sigma, he said that you're not guaranteed your starting spot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He may not be the starter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he probably is going to be, but you have to earn those kind of things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So to that staff, he may not even be the best quarterback on the roster.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now,
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to be the starter, but those things get dictated before the season starts and fall camp, which is starting here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I believe Robley next week, the week after week and a half.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's going to be good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's going to be fun to watch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's coming over from Cal.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He can throw the ball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He can move with the ball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And with a new quarterbacks coach and Chandler Whitmer after they lost TNS and Sary and fortunately, that was that was honestly crushing to lose TNS and Sary your offensive coordinator, your co-offensive coordinator that basically just dealt with the quarterback and Kurdish work last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you had to pick between the four guys to go and between Sigmetti, Bryant Haynes defensive coordinator in Mike Shanahan, the offensive coordinator in Tinos and Sary, no disrespect, but I think you want some Sary gone out of those four.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can't afford to lose your D.C., your main O.C., and of course your head coach.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I trust in Mendoza, I trust in his new coach and
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[SPEAKER_02]: Time will only tell.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's three weeks aren't going to give us any.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's first three weeks aren't going to give us anything on what's telling us about this team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to know a lot more about this team week four against Illinois.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, Grant, you and I will be talking to you football from now till the end of the season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to have plenty of time to preview the team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But what we know for sure is this defense should be great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It should be, I mean, you're returning a lot from last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Adding some new pieces, the big key addition will be a guy by the name of Kellyn Wyatt, who comes over from the University of Maryland and a linebacker spot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a huge addition.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You also have a guy by the name of Tyre Tucker on the defensive line.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then you return guys like McCall, Kamara, who is an all-American, eight in Fisher, another linebacker.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and then D. Angelo Ponds who is on his way to being my maybe my all-time favorite Indiana football player.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think a defense is in good hands and I think you have a top three.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this note, there's no bias.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He just from watching it from here and other people talk, but I think you have a top three defense coordinator in the country and Brian Haynes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Sigmund said in the, um, Sigmund said in the media days that
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[SPEAKER_02]: The blue bloods were after this guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean Penn State, Penn State I know for sure was heavily after this guy to get him to replace funny enough Tom Allen the former Indiana coach is their defensive coordinator and Indiana was able to cough up the money and that shows a lot as to what the athletic department is saying about is saying and thinking about football and that
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[SPEAKER_02]: They want to keep these guys.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They they don't want that to be a one hit wonder last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They don't want that to be a one year thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We want to keep this consistency and the biggest thing is is keeping the staff keeping those assistant coaches on the staff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The defensive staff is really good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then of course those guys that I mentioned are are also really good as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So the defense the defense last year in games.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like
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[SPEAKER_02]: What are we doing?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like wake up, and then there'd be other times when I do, this is the best defense in the country.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they could be almost at least every game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: At least there a game that I was at and I noticed, and maybe every game I guess that I watched, though I saw them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There would be maybe one or two or sometimes even three drives, especially in the games that they won.
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[SPEAKER_02]: that they would stop and they would delay an egg.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's when you're like, okay, what are we doing?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then that would get corrected either at half time or in a time out in the locker room or wherever on the sideline.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that would get fixed and it happened to the first half, happened in second half at some points.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But that defense would almost get lazy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You could almost see like they were tired.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They were kind of sucking for air and
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[SPEAKER_02]: Those things got corrected the off.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, sometimes you're your greatest.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes your greatest defense can be your offense and it sounds nuts, but keeping your defense off the field is so crucial.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And with how good Indiana's offense was last year that defense got plenty of rest.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So when they would kind of slip up and not do very well is because the offense was off the field quick.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a three and out or it was get a first down and then it was the three plays and off the field.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So there's the certain things that go into it, but I think maybe this defense is going to be more like way more consistent than they were last year and they could be really consistent at some points.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I see that uh... produced new coach bariodum has uh... ingratulated himself down blooming to who is it i'm sure it's what's his name bariodum uh... they have a football team they do okay okay i i didn't know i didn't i did i did that about to all team because it's good enough they got a football team so so this very so this very out and said what
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, not, not that I think, but I think he said something.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't know what's happening.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's another coach in the conference.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it had to be someone I knew had a football team, but that surprises me, because I don't know that a football team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think he said that we could be like another school in our conference or in our state.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and cancel series with other opponents, and we're gonna play the teams that were scheduled to play.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, that's fine, but they're gonna be really funny.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you guys say that, and then it's gonna be really funny when we won the Ball State Cardinals come over there and win.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, and I'm not saying that's gonna happen, but if it does, then like, dude, you're gonna be in for a field that,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, Sigmetti talked an awful lot before his first season as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's not forget this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That that is true and his and his was a lot more like like direct.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I I don't have a problem with what he said to be I jokes aside.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have a problem with what he said.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it is what it is that that I mean we're all entitled to our own opinion in his opinion.
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[SPEAKER_02]: whether it's right or wrong, I think time will tell.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's why if I was a Purdue fan, I would have had no problem with what Signetti said at that basketball game about Purdue such as says Michigan Ohio State, it's like, it's like, okay, we'll let the game dictate that, you know?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, like, two cares of that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I really don't care what he said.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's hope Grant, the very autumn list that program to the point where they rival at least matters.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's going to be tough.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I know produced a approach to their football program is going to be different.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And those producers can sit there and say what they want.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But if it wasn't for Indiana doing what Indiana did last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if Indiana wasn't very good or still had Tom Allen and didn't go on this rise and beat their ass.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sixty-six nothing last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: then they'd still be stuck with Ryan Walters.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's so cool.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think to see the fact that Indiana may be a setting a little bit of a trend here in that because of this success that they had, then other schools who don't have a great football program or have had a great football program in the last few years are like, okay, we can do this too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We just have to find the right guy to lead it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And even even
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[SPEAKER_02]: Indiana's athletic department had to do that with another sport across the parking lot too because they're watching the the the athletic department is watching what the football team is doing there at Indiana having this unbelievable turnaround and people are in the stands and and it's a culture shock it's a culture change and the athletic department sitting there like
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[SPEAKER_02]: Dude, we have to do this with the basketball team too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's why they did what they did last year and basically forced Mike Woods in a new retirement.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then they go in higher a coach that hopefully will be able to change the ways a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's kind of my take on it, but you're right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I hope Indiana can and Purdue can get back to a good rivalry, not just some football, but also in basketball as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm looking forward to that game on Black Friday this year on November the
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do not believe Purdue will finish in last place in the big ten grand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe they will win at least two big ten games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You were a butler and you were not impressed with what I you did right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now I wasn't and I was very angry, but I wasn't angry.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I wasn't really angry at what the product I saw on the floor with assembly ball on Saturday against a team called fail harder, which is an
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[SPEAKER_02]: a team with a lot of Indianapolis based guys that are from Andy or went to college and Andy you know guys that played at IEP I think there was a couple dudes that had played at Marion at one time and that team actually that failed harder team that B I used team in assembly ball and the TBT actually ended up winning that region and so they're moving and they're actually
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[SPEAKER_02]: like in the lead aid or whatever, they're actually in the elite aid of tea.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they beat the Ohio State team on Tuesday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And a team called Carmen screw actually that failed harder team that beat the I you team won that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My thing is that what gets me with that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They did all of this promoting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: for months, leading up to it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Come out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to have James Blackman Jew here on the team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to have Christian Wopford on the team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's another guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, Yogi Ferrell's going to be there, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's it's so cool, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to have all these guys coming back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It seems going to be awesome.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then they don't play.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They don't even dress.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They sit on the bench.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a PR thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's too sell ticket.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not about winning.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not about the money with these guys.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's literally about selling the tickets and getting the people to come watch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: John Morgan did the dude even play ball since he since he graduated.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Troy Williams is as wide as he is tall now.
22:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you remember Troy Williams Greg?
22:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
22:23
[SPEAKER_02]: He sucks.
22:26
[SPEAKER_02]: he sucks man oh my gosh like so it's not the tournament you don't like it's not the idea it's that if you're gonna do it you got to do it yes you don't rob these these people of their money you're just taking money all you're doing is stealing money from these people by getting by say oh we got James black we got yogis arrow Christian waferd all these guys Miller cops gonna be a Miller cop what even there
22:56
[SPEAKER_02]: But I understand why he was thinking these, I think he was still playing in the summer.
22:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, so I get it.
23:01
[SPEAKER_02]: I get it.
23:02
[SPEAKER_02]: If you knew that was going to conflict, then why even try and get the dude to come play?
23:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Race tops and oh my gosh, dude, I forgot how mad that dude used to make me.
23:15
[SPEAKER_02]: He's been gone for two years.
23:17
[SPEAKER_02]: And then I watched him and I'm like, oh my gosh, dude, I remember being so mad because of that guy.
23:23
[SPEAKER_02]: And then you have guys that are on the roster like this Quentin Patterson who actually give a crap like they play hard.
23:32
[SPEAKER_02]: They give a crap.
23:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Then you have guys like Al Durham who kind of played hard who gave a he who kind of cared a little bit.
23:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Dude, I really liked on the team was Luke Fisher who started in Indiana and then went to market in his career.
23:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Big dude.
23:47
[SPEAKER_02]: I actually really I wasn't impressed with him, but I hope to God they never assemble that team again.
23:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't do the assembly ball anymore.
23:55
[SPEAKER_02]: We're good.
23:56
[SPEAKER_02]: You've done it for two years.
23:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Dad, you scammed us two years in a row.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We let them first year slide because they actually did have some dudes out there playing, you know, Jordan Halls who is like in his third, I don't know how old he is, but he's in his thirties, probably early to mid he's dude and he's only good for like three minutes to come in and maybe shoot a couple shots.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He needs to be breathing that.
24:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't even put him out there.
24:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't suit him up.
24:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't even want to see what for at this point.
24:29
[SPEAKER_02]: It's all good.
24:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Black men and I think James was hurt and I think he had just had surgery or he's going to have surgery and I get it.
24:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Yogi's old and they may be in some pain, but it's like it's not the fact that they didn't play.
24:45
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not the fact they chose to set out because there's certain reasons that they're doing it.
24:49
[SPEAKER_02]: But if you know that these guys are probably going to sit out and they tell you well and advance if they're probably going to sit out, then why the hell are you even telling people that they're coming here and playing?
25:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't do it again.
25:03
[SPEAKER_02]: We're good.
25:03
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't need it.
25:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to that thing next year if they're in it.
25:08
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going when they play.
25:10
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm only giving them money if I could see they can win.
25:13
[SPEAKER_02]: I am not wasting my money on two tickets for me and my dad or me and my girlfriend to go watch that garbage if you're not going to compete and and it reminded me of like of how frustrating Indiana basketball has gotten over the years because it it literally was the same effort like it was the same crap Greg and I hope they never do it again and that's why ran on it.
25:39
[SPEAKER_02]: That's all I got to say.
25:41
[SPEAKER_01]: and kind of a sad week in Bloomington and for the media world.
25:45
[SPEAKER_01]: The world lost a media legend, Grant.
25:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Bob Hamill passed away over the weekend and he was a guy that started off just up the road from where I'm at in Huntington, Indiana.
26:01
[SPEAKER_02]: And I guess I didn't really realize this until kind of doing some research on him.
26:06
[SPEAKER_02]: He was very smart.
26:08
[SPEAKER_02]: And he ended up going to college at Indiana when he was like sixteen or seventeen years old after his first year at Indiana.
26:16
[SPEAKER_02]: He had gotten a call or somebody had reached out to him from back home in Huntington.
26:23
[SPEAKER_02]: wanting to know if he wanted to be the sports director of the hunting to newspaper.
26:27
[SPEAKER_02]: The guy with seventeen years old, I mean, he'd be a junior in high, I mean, imagine a junior in high school being in charge of the sports department at a newspaper.
26:35
[SPEAKER_02]: That even then was unheard of.
26:37
[SPEAKER_02]: It's that certainly unheard of now because of just how scarce that kind of stuff has become.
26:43
[SPEAKER_02]: So he then returned to Bloomington.
26:45
[SPEAKER_02]: He worked, I know he worked in Peru at one time.
26:49
[SPEAKER_02]: He worked
26:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Another place is Fort Wayne and Deanapolis.
26:54
[SPEAKER_02]: A fine made his way back to Bloomington.
26:56
[SPEAKER_02]: And this was a guy that loves sports and was just an encyclopedia for sports.
27:01
[SPEAKER_02]: And so when he got here early, he met
27:05
[SPEAKER_02]: the new Indiana basketball coach in nineteen seventy one bob night and i think of because how smart him was not just was sports but i think with other things like history and politics this kind of things that's how him and night became great friends and it got to a point where everywhere even up until literally the day night died in twenty twenty three
27:27
[SPEAKER_02]: He was always with Bob Hamilton when he was an Indiana even after he got fired.
27:32
[SPEAKER_02]: He was always with Bob Hamilton every public appearance.
27:37
[SPEAKER_02]: He would make that like every speaking engagement when he would go and he was still speaking and would go out and speak.
27:45
[SPEAKER_02]: up until about twenty nineteen and that's when people really started to notice that his dementia was taking over and Bob Hamill was always there right by a side and even pat has told me that he said one time Mr. Hamill was still coming over to the house even until he died he may have even been there when night died now I think about it he he was just such a great friend of coach night and not only that he was just such a recognizable face within the program
28:16
[SPEAKER_02]: He became one of those kind of background people that like, if you weren't really, if you were a fan, but you didn't, if you were a fan, but you were a casual fan, you wouldn't have noticed.
28:27
[SPEAKER_02]: You wouldn't even know who he is.
28:28
[SPEAKER_02]: But if you were a real dedicated fan and you read a season on the brink where he's mentioned a lot, his perspective is in that thing a lot, then you knew who Bob Hale was.
28:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Indiana, and maybe it's just because I'm a fan and I'm into that kind of stuff.
28:44
[SPEAKER_02]: But Indiana has had
28:46
[SPEAKER_02]: so many kind of notable, I don't want to say background characters, but they're side characters.
28:52
[SPEAKER_02]: There are people you don't think about that have always been there at Indiana and have always been involved at Indiana.
28:59
[SPEAKER_02]: To his names that come to mind are Don Fisher.
29:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he's always been associated with Indiana.
29:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, Gabby name a Tim Garl, who was the longtime athletic trainer for the basketball team.
29:09
[SPEAKER_02]: He was just let go of this all season.
29:13
[SPEAKER_02]: I think another one of those people was Bob Hamill as well.
29:17
[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't shocking.
29:18
[SPEAKER_02]: There was an article that came out in the Indianapolis star.
29:22
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was two or three weeks ago at the end of June.
29:25
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was maybe early July that, um,
29:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Doyle put out there that he was in hospital care for a while and so it was not shocking that he had died, but it certainly was saddening because he did so much not just for Indiana, but just for the community of Bloomington.
29:45
[SPEAKER_02]: He was one of the most recognizable sports writers in the state and people love reading his work and he was a great author.
29:52
[SPEAKER_02]: He was just such a great ambassador for the city of Bloomington and for Indiana University.
29:58
[SPEAKER_02]: So Bob Hammer will be missed.
30:01
[SPEAKER_02]: I can only imagine that reunion with Coach Knight in the afterlife and beyond.
30:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much.
30:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Once again, to grant for joining the Central Indiana Sports Report and talking about his passion, I use sports, of course.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We will have an IU report every week, at least through the end of the men's basketball season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when the season begins, we will also have a preview of every IU game with Grant.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we will recap and get Grant's reaction to every game.
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