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The Breakfast Club BEST OF SHOW - G. Herbo, Kehlani, Papoose and Claressa Shields interview · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Oh, wake you up?
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  Speaker 2: Wait, wait, thats up program?
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  Speaker 3: Your alarmed the power one oh five point one on iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 3: This is your time to get it off your chest.
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  Speaker 3: Eight hundred and five eighty five one O five one.
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  Speaker 3: We want to hear from you on the breakfast club.
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  Speaker 4: Hello, who's this?
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  Speaker 5: Oh man?
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  Speaker 6: Here y'all go with this? Hey't envy all y'all doing?
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  Speaker 6: Hey everybody?
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  Speaker 7: Why bless y'all, love y'all, Good morning, everybody to morning.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, first of.
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  Speaker 7: All, lady, let our y'all, y'all do a good job.
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  Speaker 7: We love y'all out here in the d Okay, I
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  Speaker 7: want to I want to make sure we say all
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  Speaker 7: at first.
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  Speaker 8: Thank you baby.
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  Speaker 6: It's not for y'all.
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  Speaker 7: My cousin's taking me to kill. They're trying to make
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  Speaker 7: this for the three US.
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  Speaker 6: Shy of man, your black ball head ache.
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  Speaker 7: You just put our cousin on that goddamn.
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  Speaker 6: Dump you O to day yesterday everything gave funny man.
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  Speaker 7: You love our kids down here. You ain't even had
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  Speaker 7: a right make right before you.
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  Speaker 6: Get going on there? You do the effen. Everybody told
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  Speaker 6: me Bridge don't say that, because you know he talking
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  Speaker 6: about everybody. I don't give a man. Now you talking
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  Speaker 6: about people coming. We don't like that.
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  Speaker 7: Everything ain't funny, especially when it come to these kids,
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  Speaker 7: man and a black man.
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  Speaker 6: I'm mad at him. And did it to a black.
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  Speaker 7: Man that really with his kids and a white environment
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  Speaker 7: that you don't even know about.
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  Speaker 6: Stop doing that, man, what happened?
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  Speaker 8: We would have get Donkey to yesterday David Scott Jr.
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  Speaker 8: Forty three years old.
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  Speaker 9: He allegedly, uh said, told the teacher on ed his
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  Speaker 9: bitch out, and so he got.
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  Speaker 8: Arrested, y'all.
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  Speaker 6: And he didn't say that.
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  Speaker 9: Well, I said, I said during Donkey today. I don't
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  Speaker 9: know if he said that or not, but what I
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  Speaker 9: said was he clearly said something that led to his arrest,
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  Speaker 9: and then I gave other ways for him to possibly
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  Speaker 9: handle the situation, like calmly request the meeting, request a
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  Speaker 9: meeting with the teacher at the school administration.
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  Speaker 6: L Man, I gotta stop you, bro.
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  Speaker 10: They did.
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  Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying. All those things.
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  Speaker 7: You didn't even exect the story play out the meet.
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  Speaker 7: You know how the media is just like they did.
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  Speaker 7: Hear when they went and interviewed the mother. They didn't
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  Speaker 7: playing the whole cliff is for show the evidence that
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  Speaker 7: she had about how they went to the school, how
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  Speaker 7: they were talking to the.
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  Speaker 6: Principal while I'm calling.
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  Speaker 8: I didn't see that on the clip. I watched the
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  Speaker 8: whole clip. I didn't on the.
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  Speaker 7: Listen, I know you didn't because his brother called it.
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  Speaker 6: Check the lady about that. That's what I'm telling you.
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  Speaker 6: If it was like that, man, will nobody even saying nothing,
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  Speaker 6: but let me tell you something, what we're not gonna do.
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  Speaker 6: It's been a mass and come over the brothers. That's
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  Speaker 6: really out here, that man with his kids every day?
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  Speaker 8: Did you hear me? Did you hear me say?
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  Speaker 9: I can understand the brother feeling the way he felt,
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  Speaker 9: but there's other ways the hands of the situation.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, man, but I want to try to know that. Listen,
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  Speaker 6: he got he don't have these things like that.
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  Speaker 7: When they saying that's like a different type of environment,
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  Speaker 7: y'all got people places like that in New York.
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  Speaker 8: What you mean different type of environment? Like, tell me
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  Speaker 8: what are you talking about? What do you mean?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 6: Okay? So that they staying the place called eats going
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  Speaker 6: yeah over there really.
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  Speaker 11: With the breadth, like you know what.
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  Speaker 6: I'm saying, like Detroit is that's not Detroit over there, so.
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  Speaker 1: It's a.
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  Speaker 12: Mountain and the white air and the white area. Don't
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  Speaker 12: mess with the black people over there.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, not really, not really. You know what I'm saying
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  Speaker 6: that you move over there, that's like anywhere you go.
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  Speaker 6: If you move on the block and it's just just
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  Speaker 6: a fad.
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  Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, you won't be neighbors and
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  Speaker 7: you won't give along with people with that area of town.
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  Speaker 4: On me.
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  Speaker 6: Survived over there or he's been.
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  Speaker 7: Over there and they never had a problem from where
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  Speaker 7: he come from. See my cousin a law man.
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  Speaker 6: He a good guy. Bro. If it wasn't coming now,
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  Speaker 6: I wouldn't have said nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Hold On man.
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  Speaker 7: Said that he comes from good stop, good family.
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  Speaker 6: He's a good brother.
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  Speaker 8: Nobody said. Nobody said he's not.
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  Speaker 9: All I simply said was there's other ways to handle
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  Speaker 9: the situation.
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  Speaker 6: And we and he's tried.
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  Speaker 13: Bro.
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  Speaker 6: I want you to say that you can investigate, but
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  Speaker 6: you bring like that mess.
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  Speaker 9: So he didn't say he didn't say nothing bad to
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  Speaker 9: the teacher whatsoever.
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  Speaker 6: We ain't gonna say.
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  Speaker 7: He ain't say nothing that he ain't take no kids, bro.
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  Speaker 9: And that's talking about By the way, I want you
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  Speaker 9: to go back and listen to the dog as day.
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  Speaker 9: And I specifically said, I don't know whether he said
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  Speaker 9: and is beyond.
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  Speaker 6: I wouldn't listen.
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  Speaker 8: Arrested. Yes, ma'am, y.
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  Speaker 7: You like I tow everybody else, Yes, man, because they
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  Speaker 7: did it.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, tryna main't do this all the time. He talking
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  Speaker 6: about everybody. Let me take this. I don't listen to
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  Speaker 6: that because I know it's fun, it's entertainment. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 6: tell you like this. We are black man. Our family
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  Speaker 6: love each other, we.
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  Speaker 7: Love our kids.
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  Speaker 6: We don't even play games like that. So anybody go
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  Speaker 6: look at any anything.
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  Speaker 7: Down here on these face looking know that what everybody's
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  Speaker 7: saying about that.
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  Speaker 6: He ain't even like that. Yes, many carry that took
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  Speaker 6: ran with it. But please don't ever put no image
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  Speaker 6: of our family like I was like that. Bro, we
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  Speaker 6: don't do that.
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  Speaker 7: That's all I got to say, y'all, Envy, you know
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  Speaker 7: we put down here.
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  Speaker 14: You know you got that, yes, ma'am.
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  Speaker 8: All y'all, now, let the moral of the stories show that.
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  Speaker 9: Let the moral of the story be that I understand
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  Speaker 9: everything that she's saying. But as I said, you can't
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  Speaker 9: go down to the school. Whether he said, ed is
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  Speaker 9: be out or not. Whatever he said caused them people
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  Speaker 9: to call the police and he got arrested. So there's
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  Speaker 9: other ways to handle the situation. Request the meeting with
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  Speaker 9: the teacher of the school administration. Okay, gather more information
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  Speaker 9: and see what their policy is in regards to the
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  Speaker 9: next She.
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  Speaker 12: Said, they did all that, she said, but.
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  Speaker 8: She also said that she can't say that he ain't
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  Speaker 8: say nothing.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that's my cousin.
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  Speaker 8: I get it, I get it, I get it.
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  Speaker 12: Okay, I get thank you, first lady, First lady, if
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  Speaker 12: you need another cousin, I'll be your cousin.
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  Speaker 2: She woke up early in the morning last morning.
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  Speaker 8: That's great. That's don't mean she's right. I didn't say that.
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  Speaker 9: I just said because, as I said yesterday, smart people
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  Speaker 9: learn from their own mistakes. Why people learn from the
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  Speaker 9: mistakes of others. We got to learn from situations like
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  Speaker 9: David Scott Junior. And I'm sorry that brother is in
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  Speaker 9: the situation that he's in, but we know that we
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  Speaker 9: just can't handle, you know, things in that way, especially
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  Speaker 9: being that he's a black man dealing with them white people.
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  Speaker 8: That she said that probably prejudice.
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  Speaker 12: Yes, all right, let's look to the whole detray, what
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  Speaker 12: up dough out there? All right, get it off your chest?
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  Speaker 12: Eight hundred five eight five one oh five one. If
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  Speaker 12: you need to vent, hit us up now. It's the
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  Speaker 12: Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 8: Good morning, it's a new day.
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  Speaker 4: Is your time to get it off your chest. Whether
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  Speaker 4: you're man.
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  Speaker 8: Or black, something to get up and get something.
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  Speaker 3: Call up now. Eight hundred five eight five one o
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  Speaker 3: five one. We want to hear from you on the
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  Speaker 3: Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 8: Hello.
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  Speaker 5: Who is this?
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, this is trouble Trevor your chest, Trevor, Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 11: like my thing is, you know, I want to put
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  Speaker 11: it out there, mag of, mag Of. We don't have
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  Speaker 11: no fracture in a maga party. It's no fracture. That's
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  Speaker 11: a false narrative of yes, sir, okay all day. Yeah,
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  Speaker 11: So it's no fracture in a maga party. And also
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  Speaker 11: I want to state this because you know, I sit
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  Speaker 11: back and listen and I heard this this, this, this
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  Speaker 11: thing about Trump, this Trump that. But I want to
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  Speaker 11: say like this, Charla Man, I don't care bro, you know, no, No,
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  Speaker 11: I want.
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  Speaker 8: To say this.
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  Speaker 11: Remember when Joe Biden told you at the end of
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  Speaker 11: that podcast, if you don't vote for him, you ain't black.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I do.
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  Speaker 8: That's something of the.
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  Speaker 11: Most disrespectful stuff that just want to talk about white
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  Speaker 11: people racist. That's one of the most racist things that
• 7:37
  Speaker 11: an old white man can tell a black man. If
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  Speaker 11: you don't vote for me, you ain't black. Trump. Trump
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  Speaker 11: is one of the best presidents outside of Abraham Lincoln
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  Speaker 11: that's in that chair.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, it's false and this false narrative.
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  Speaker 11: I'm not about no though, but but like you remember
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  Speaker 11: when Joe Biden told.
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  Speaker 9: You that though right, I was he said to me.
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  Speaker 11: I said nothing negative, but said nothing negative about.
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  Speaker 8: That about who about Joe Biden?
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, the most disrespectful stuff. And he told you to
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  Speaker 11: see your face on your podcast if.
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  Speaker 8: You don't vote him.
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  Speaker 11: So basically he's saying, but that's.
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  Speaker 8: That's not true.
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  Speaker 11: You know where you're supposed to stand as a black man.
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  Speaker 8: That what he told you?
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  Speaker 9: Yes, And I watched, yes, And as I told him
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  Speaker 9: in that moment, you know, it's not about me being black.
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  Speaker 9: It's about me wanting something from my people. So, I mean,
• 8:29
  Speaker 9: that was that was the common.
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  Speaker 11: But had Trump but but had Trump said something like that,
• 8:34
  Speaker 11: it would have exploded.
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  Speaker 8: But but outside of outside.
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  Speaker 11: I would have said to that news lady, I want
• 8:43
  Speaker 11: to get to that news report. Yeah, she got to
• 8:47
  Speaker 11: report the real storage like because like she got a narrative,
• 8:53
  Speaker 11: like like she reported and she got that little narrative,
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  Speaker 11: that negative narrative about the king about it's done.
• 9:01
  Speaker 9: You know my brother, my brother, No, no, no, no, don't
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  Speaker 9: hang up on it. It is a good conversation. There
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  Speaker 9: is no way that you could.
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  Speaker 11: I've been knowing about Trump. I've been knowing about Trump
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  Speaker 11: since the eighties. Man, I come up in the inner
• 9:13
  Speaker 11: city all my life. I've been knowing about Trump since
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  Speaker 11: the eighties.
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  Speaker 9: If you knew about Trump since the eighties, you'd have
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  Speaker 9: a whole anyway, I'm not even had that conversation.
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  Speaker 8: This is what I will say.
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  Speaker 9: It's it's impossible for you to be objective about Donald
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  Speaker 9: Trump because you just called that man king and don
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  Speaker 9: like I don't know why.
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  Speaker 8: So anything that you.
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  Speaker 11: Hear because like I know it's gonna trigger, because I
• 9:34
  Speaker 11: know it's gonna trigger.
• 9:35
  Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying, and don't trigger me.
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  Speaker 4: I just don't.
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  Speaker 9: I just know I can't have an objective conversation with
• 9:41
  Speaker 9: you about.
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  Speaker 11: But you have a good but also I just want
• 9:44
  Speaker 11: to say this though, if y'all can go back and
• 9:46
  Speaker 11: look at it, look at the interview with Oprah Winford
• 9:49
  Speaker 11: back in the mid eighties when Oprah when open Header
• 9:52
  Speaker 11: Store is Chicago. She used to have Donald Trump on
• 9:54
  Speaker 11: this Shirwater time. She always used to ask Trump about
• 9:57
  Speaker 11: running for president. You know, Jeff said, Jackson, you looked
• 10:00
  Speaker 11: out for Jackson Jackson home girl from the like you
• 10:05
  Speaker 11: did that movie with Beyonce on what's her name? Like
• 10:08
  Speaker 11: the singer the Black Girl whom, Yeah, Jennifer Hudson prompt
• 10:12
  Speaker 11: took her in after that incident happened with her family
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  Speaker 11: with Michael Jackson.
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  Speaker 8: I never heard that, Michael, you never heard of that.
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  Speaker 9: No, but listen, bro, you gotta get off your knees. Man,
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  Speaker 9: you call it that white man the King.
• 10:23
  Speaker 8: This morning laze and the glade is crazy.
• 10:26
  Speaker 9: The Krispy Kreme around your lips right now is ridiculous.
• 10:29
  Speaker 9: And I'm not if that's your opinion. That's your opinion,
• 10:31
  Speaker 9: but god damn, you can't even be objective and have
• 10:33
  Speaker 9: an objective conversation with somebody like that. If you refer
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  Speaker 9: to your president as a king, act, that's ridiculous. That is,
• 10:40
  Speaker 9: you should never refer to no elected official as a king.
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  Speaker 4: Bro.
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: All right, get it off your chest.
• 10:45
  Speaker 12: Eight hundred and five eight five one oh five one.
• 10:47
  Speaker 12: If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's
• 10:49
  Speaker 12: the Breakfast Club.
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: Good morning, warning everybody, it's DJ n V Jess Hilarious,
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: Charlamage the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got
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  Speaker 2: a special guest in the building.
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  Speaker 8: Yes, sir, that Gerbo.
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  Speaker 12: Welcome the morning and congratulations man the number one record
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  Speaker 12: a couple of weeks ago, grass Man.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you. I'm good. I'm good. I'm glad to be here.
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  Speaker 2: I do feel number one record.
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  Speaker 8: I feel good. I'm not gonna lie.
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  Speaker 4: I feel great.
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  Speaker 8: It feel great.
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  Speaker 15: I'll just be trying to like stay in the moment
• 11:15
  Speaker 15: real just just keep it like up you know, like
• 11:18
  Speaker 15: when you where you got those type of moments you
• 11:20
  Speaker 15: just trying to figure out like all right, well I
• 11:23
  Speaker 15: me personally, like I gotta figure out what's the next
• 11:25
  Speaker 15: best thing, Like what do I do next?
• 11:27
  Speaker 4: From that?
• 11:27
  Speaker 15: Like I try to live in a moment and grasp
• 11:30
  Speaker 15: up that energy, but just keep it going, like not
• 11:32
  Speaker 15: trying to catch another number one.
• 11:34
  Speaker 4: I'm just trying to keep it going.
• 11:35
  Speaker 12: Did you expect that to be the record because it's
• 11:36
  Speaker 12: not your typical course.
• 11:38
  Speaker 15: Well, it was just you just spitting Nah, hell no,
• 11:41
  Speaker 15: for sure. I was just literally I can't say it enough.
• 11:44
  Speaker 15: It was just me just having fun in the studio.
• 11:46
  Speaker 15: I was in New York and was in the studio
• 11:50
  Speaker 15: me south Side smack and you know south Side Like
• 11:53
  Speaker 15: I really, I'd be having to give a lot of
• 11:55
  Speaker 15: credit to Big Bro because he want the only people
• 11:57
  Speaker 15: that could tell me, like, rap on this, just rap
• 11:59
  Speaker 15: on this and figure it out, like just rap. And
• 12:02
  Speaker 15: that's what I did, and that that changed my life.
• 12:06
  Speaker 8: As a single.
• 12:09
  Speaker 12: Who picked it as a single? Like was it just
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  Speaker 12: I'm just gonna release and see what happened? And it
• 12:12
  Speaker 12: just took over.
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  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
• 12:14
  Speaker 15: That's why I like, as artists, you gotta like really
• 12:16
  Speaker 15: just bet on yourself for real, for real, because I
• 12:19
  Speaker 15: was in a mold of just trying to do music
• 12:23
  Speaker 15: and see what the streets connected to. I didn't even
• 12:26
  Speaker 15: like that song came out in December on my app.
• 12:29
  Speaker 15: I got an app on my own app, like where
• 12:31
  Speaker 15: I just put out music material content. All this is
• 12:35
  Speaker 15: just for the people who really support me, Like you
• 12:37
  Speaker 15: know what, I'm saying, my fans, they know about the
• 12:39
  Speaker 15: Gebo app. I put it out on my app on
• 12:42
  Speaker 15: a project that I was just recording all samples too,
• 12:44
  Speaker 15: Like I did a project with all simples and it
• 12:49
  Speaker 15: couldn't even go on Apple Music. It couldn't go on DSPs.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
• 12:52
  Speaker 15: Like I put it out on the app in December
• 12:55
  Speaker 15: and the label put it out on DSPs and like
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  Speaker 15: March April.
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  Speaker 4: So it's like, you gotta just try to see what the.
• 13:01
  Speaker 10: Streets congratulations on your appreciate it.
• 13:04
  Speaker 8: Has it changed the bag? Has that single changed your bag?
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely?
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  Speaker 9: Because I'll be thinking that, you know a lot of
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  Speaker 9: people be fronting on like the power of radio and
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  Speaker 9: having a big radio record speak to that man.
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  Speaker 4: For sure.
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  Speaker 15: I've always been like I knew because I've been independent
• 13:20
  Speaker 15: this whole time, So I know about like analytics, I
• 13:23
  Speaker 15: know about like residuals, I know what, like one record
• 13:26
  Speaker 15: could really change your life, you know what I'm saying. Like,
• 13:28
  Speaker 15: and I finally caught that record that like that life
• 13:31
  Speaker 15: changing records, So yeah, the bag been crazy.
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  Speaker 8: The royalties from radio are better than the streaming.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely for sure.
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  Speaker 15: And it's like once you. Once you get a song
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  Speaker 15: that really go radio, it's like it's just like it
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  Speaker 15: just changed everything real change the places you actually perform
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  Speaker 15: at for sure, exactly like you could put you could
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  Speaker 15: put you put money in radio for sure for what
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  Speaker 15: to do what it's supposed to do. But just like
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  Speaker 15: even like it's a different between like putting something in
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  Speaker 15: radio for just get on the radio again, like rhythmic
• 14:05
  Speaker 15: play playlist, you know what I'm saying, Like all of that,
• 14:07
  Speaker 15: it's just a big super difference. Like I be talking
• 14:11
  Speaker 15: to like Make all the time. It's just like once
• 14:14
  Speaker 15: you get a record, like I'm not even talking about
• 14:16
  Speaker 15: what legit like there's certain records that like the format
• 14:19
  Speaker 15: where you know it could go radio, you know what
• 14:20
  Speaker 15: I'm saying, Like I feel like every artist, all you
• 14:23
  Speaker 15: need is like one radio record a year, just one, Like.
• 14:27
  Speaker 4: You fee what I'm saying.
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: It ain't that easy to get one. It's not easy
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: at all.
• 14:30
  Speaker 15: But like you know, hit Maker, that's my big brother,
• 14:32
  Speaker 15: Like he the god of this, Like you feel what
• 14:35
  Speaker 15: I'm saying, Like he know the whole formal he do
• 14:38
  Speaker 15: it like and that's why he's so rich, Like that
• 14:41
  Speaker 15: riches because he on radio every year at.
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: Least point it out right for sure, Willow Herb.
• 14:49
  Speaker 15: I was just trying to like tap into like that
• 14:52
  Speaker 15: old hunger, like my old self. And when I be
• 14:55
  Speaker 15: rapping good and like I be reading the comments, sometime
• 14:58
  Speaker 15: my fans be like, oh that ain't they Ain't you
• 15:01
  Speaker 15: heard what? That's a little herd, you know what I'm saying.
• 15:03
  Speaker 15: I feel like that was like one of my best
• 15:05
  Speaker 15: eras of rap. Like I always been able to rap.
• 15:08
  Speaker 15: I'm an EMC, so it's like I don't care if
• 15:10
  Speaker 15: I'm not even all the way tapped into like my
• 15:15
  Speaker 15: confidence and all this. I'm always gonna be able to
• 15:17
  Speaker 15: rap good, you feel me. But like once you really
• 15:20
  Speaker 15: focus on straight rap, it's different. And that's what I
• 15:24
  Speaker 15: was trying to do. So that's why I went and
• 15:26
  Speaker 15: like name my album Little Herb. Like I was going
• 15:28
  Speaker 15: up like listening to old interviews, listening to old music
• 15:32
  Speaker 15: videos and I mean watch old music videos, listen to
• 15:34
  Speaker 15: old songsing like that, and like I was just trying
• 15:39
  Speaker 15: to find like a higher level of rap for myself,
• 15:45
  Speaker 15: you know what I'm saying. And I say this all
• 15:47
  Speaker 15: the time, like you could really get caught up and
• 15:50
  Speaker 15: what's in front of you, like always been the type
• 15:52
  Speaker 15: of person Like I say this a lot a lot
• 15:54
  Speaker 15: of rooms that I was in, I wasn't really in
• 15:57
  Speaker 15: the rooms, you know what I'm saying, because I'm thinking
• 15:59
  Speaker 15: about like my past. I'm thinking about what I gotta
• 16:02
  Speaker 15: do when I get out the room. Like I'm just saying,
• 16:04
  Speaker 15: what's up, Like there's certain conversations that I really couldn't
• 16:07
  Speaker 15: have because my mind is all over the place.
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: You feel me, like so like.
• 16:12
  Speaker 15: In this era where I am mentally, I was just
• 16:16
  Speaker 15: trying to like find that old hunger that made me
• 16:19
  Speaker 15: enjoy what.
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: I have now, Like you know what I'm saying, Like.
• 16:22
  Speaker 15: Like that's that's why I really named my project Little Herb,
• 16:25
  Speaker 15: because like you were, like on the day to day,
• 16:28
  Speaker 15: I'm thirty years old. I've been rapping since I was
• 16:30
  Speaker 15: like sixteen for real, for real, Like you feel me,
• 16:32
  Speaker 15: and I was trying to figure out like damn, like
• 16:37
  Speaker 15: all the steps to that it took me to get here.
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: You feel what I'm saying, Like I forgot to lie.
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie.
• 16:42
  Speaker 15: It's a lot of that idea that I forgot. So
• 16:44
  Speaker 15: it's like I wanted to make myself remember so I
• 16:47
  Speaker 15: had to like go back in and like tap in
• 16:50
  Speaker 15: with my old self for real.
• 16:51
  Speaker 9: I heard you say, Little Herb is a full circle
• 16:53
  Speaker 9: moment and it's a return to the fundamentals. But you
• 16:56
  Speaker 9: closing the chapter on the Little Herb? What is closing
• 16:59
  Speaker 9: that chapter to actually look like?
• 17:02
  Speaker 15: Closing that chapter is like for real, just letting go,
• 17:05
  Speaker 15: Like there's a lot of held on to that I
• 17:08
  Speaker 15: just don't need no more, like for real, for real,
• 17:11
  Speaker 15: like the street therapy right there, just letting go for
• 17:15
  Speaker 15: real real, and it is, it is definitely therapy that
• 17:18
  Speaker 15: helped me.
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: It's like a lot of that you hold on to
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: you just like just let it go, just let it
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: go and just let.
• 17:24
  Speaker 15: It find you, you know what I'm saying, Like, no,
• 17:27
  Speaker 15: for real, Like I was one of the people that
• 17:30
  Speaker 15: just like my heart is so big, and I feel
• 17:32
  Speaker 15: like people knew that, Like people knew that.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Like they grabbed me, and I'm grabbing them back.
• 17:37
  Speaker 15: You fee what I'm saying, Like I'm holding on to
• 17:39
  Speaker 15: that type of It's like that's just letting that chapter go.
• 17:42
  Speaker 15: Like and people been saying this to me for years
• 17:44
  Speaker 15: and I've been knowing it, but I never really acted
• 17:46
  Speaker 15: on it, Like I shouldn't focus on nothing but music
• 17:50
  Speaker 15: and my family and like God, like that's the only
• 17:53
  Speaker 15: thing that I should wake up and care about. I
• 17:55
  Speaker 15: shouldn't really give a fuck about how somebody else eat
• 17:57
  Speaker 15: or how somebody else get the work or get the
• 17:59
  Speaker 15: sleep of any of that are not worried about that
• 18:02
  Speaker 15: for years. Like let's be closing that chapter, like I'm
• 18:05
  Speaker 15: gonna tap into this, tell my story.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: And just let go, let go and let God for real,
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: for and that go for everything and everybody.
• 18:13
  Speaker 15: And it's a whole nother chapter opening for me because
• 18:17
  Speaker 15: everything that got me here.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 18:20
  Speaker 15: I don't even really have it no more, for real
• 18:22
  Speaker 15: real like all my friends dead. I'm finna be a real,
• 18:26
  Speaker 15: one hundred percent independent artist, Like I don't got no label,
• 18:29
  Speaker 15: no production company. I'm one hundred percent a real new
• 18:33
  Speaker 15: person and a new artist. So it's like I just
• 18:36
  Speaker 15: want to just tap into this do what I need
• 18:38
  Speaker 15: to do, and I'm already doing it for real, but
• 18:41
  Speaker 15: just like letting go for real, like I don't. I
• 18:43
  Speaker 15: don't want to have no attachments other than family, no book.
• 18:48
  Speaker 12: You're talking about changing your life, right, he was your inspiration?
• 18:52
  Speaker 12: Break that down to what you see to Meet that
• 18:54
  Speaker 12: made you think that you can do it.
• 18:55
  Speaker 15: I just got done listening to We're Gonna get this
• 18:58
  Speaker 15: money right now on my way here.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: Meek is my.
• 19:00
  Speaker 15: Favorite rapper for real, bro, It's my big better And
• 19:03
  Speaker 15: I was just with Meek last night. We just did
• 19:05
  Speaker 15: a song last We was in a studio last night,
• 19:07
  Speaker 15: I believe. But like I used to listen to Meet
• 19:10
  Speaker 15: and watch me when he was a battle rapper, but
• 19:12
  Speaker 15: when he really got rich and made this happen, it's like,
• 19:16
  Speaker 15: all right, but that like it's different from me watching
• 19:19
  Speaker 15: like Wayne and whole Man, you know what I'm saying,
• 19:22
  Speaker 15: Like I couldn't like I could relate to it. But
• 19:26
  Speaker 15: it's like when I grew up and me I seen
• 19:30
  Speaker 15: him the rich already.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: I seen Meek.
• 19:33
  Speaker 15: Turn rich, coming from the streets and going through all
• 19:36
  Speaker 15: this that he went through and really like talking about
• 19:39
  Speaker 15: it and preaching like positivity and motivation.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: That made me feel like I just want to be
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: like that for real real.
• 19:46
  Speaker 15: Like that to really like helped me grow into the
• 19:49
  Speaker 15: artist that I am today, for real real, because like damn,
• 19:52
  Speaker 15: like it's Meek, Like it's not like he was an
• 19:56
  Speaker 15: artist and he was like far away you feel what
• 19:58
  Speaker 15: I'm saying.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: I felt like I could grasp on to that and
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: become that, Like this is.
• 20:04
  Speaker 15: A real streak that became the biggest in the world.
• 20:08
  Speaker 15: Like he became the biggest best rat and he's a
• 20:11
  Speaker 15: rap guy, Like I love rapping. I'm an mc so
• 20:13
  Speaker 15: I studied that first and foremost. But just a blueprinter
• 20:17
  Speaker 15: like like he like he gave you the real blueprint,
• 20:21
  Speaker 15: Like you get on, you take care of you do
• 20:24
  Speaker 15: what you're supposed to do. You take care of your family,
• 20:25
  Speaker 15: your mother like that to make me like I just
• 20:28
  Speaker 15: used to have to just get money to my mama,
• 20:30
  Speaker 15: just like thinking about that type of you know what
• 20:32
  Speaker 15: I'm saying, Like I retire my mom when I was
• 20:34
  Speaker 15: sixteen years old, bro literally and they put a lot
• 20:37
  Speaker 15: of pressure on me. I told my mama stopped working
• 20:39
  Speaker 15: when I was sixteen.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: She never worked.
• 20:41
  Speaker 15: Since I been taking care of her, my aunties, my
• 20:44
  Speaker 15: whole family since I was sixteen.
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: That's a lot of pressure. I had a.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Pressure, a lot of pressure.
• 20:49
  Speaker 12: Now you're the meat meal for a lot of these
• 20:51
  Speaker 12: younger artists. So what do you show them to show
• 20:54
  Speaker 12: them that they can do it? What do you do different?
• 20:56
  Speaker 12: So because you know, you got a lot of kids
• 20:57
  Speaker 12: watching me and they want to be Raba for sure.
• 21:00
  Speaker 15: Like for me, it's I just try to like what's
• 21:03
  Speaker 15: the word, like, you gotta like show them's like like
• 21:06
  Speaker 15: what me did for real, like tangible. You just gotta
• 21:10
  Speaker 15: showing Like I like the thing with me that I
• 21:12
  Speaker 15: feel like make a difference a lot is I let
• 21:14
  Speaker 15: people see me in a physical like you gotta see it,
• 21:17
  Speaker 15: like have conversations like seeing this, believing you feel what
• 21:20
  Speaker 15: I'm saying, Like you know you could do this when
• 21:21
  Speaker 15: you could actually get in front of somebody like me.
• 21:24
  Speaker 15: Growing up, I never seen nobody that I looked up to,
• 21:28
  Speaker 15: and I wanted to be like in front of me
• 21:30
  Speaker 15: talking to me. You know what I'm saying, Like I
• 21:32
  Speaker 15: just had to have a man power, like I could
• 21:34
  Speaker 15: do it. I'm gonna do it. You feel what I'm saying.
• 21:36
  Speaker 15: And it happened for me. And when I got a
• 21:39
  Speaker 15: certain age like nineteen twenty eight, like those ages when
• 21:43
  Speaker 15: I started traveling and having conversations with people that I
• 21:46
  Speaker 15: looked up to, But like fourteen fifteen, sixteen, them years
• 21:50
  Speaker 15: really matter where Like you know what I'm saying, I
• 21:52
  Speaker 15: try to be the person where I just go back
• 21:55
  Speaker 15: and do certain things and go touch the community, and
• 21:58
  Speaker 15: you know what I'm saying, tell them that they could
• 22:00
  Speaker 15: really make it, Like this is nothing for real, Li,
• 22:04
  Speaker 15: But like you and I ain't gonna say it's nothing
• 22:06
  Speaker 15: like it's it's a task.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: For sure, it's hard, but it's easy at the same time.
• 22:12
  Speaker 15: All you gotta do is wake up and strive to
• 22:15
  Speaker 15: go get it and want to do it and believe
• 22:17
  Speaker 15: that you could do it. You just got to have
• 22:18
  Speaker 15: a vision, you feel what I'm saying, Like, And and
• 22:20
  Speaker 15: when I go look at like these kids and be
• 22:23
  Speaker 15: going to talk and have conversations, like they got the
• 22:25
  Speaker 15: same power that I got, Like they really got.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: Something in them. They just don't think it's possible.
• 22:31
  Speaker 15: This is really possible, like they when you wake up
• 22:34
  Speaker 15: and all you got is this four block radius and
• 22:38
  Speaker 15: your hood and that you're dealing with every day, you
• 22:40
  Speaker 15: think that's your life, but it's like it's so much
• 22:42
  Speaker 15: outside of that.
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: All you gotta know is how to break that cycle.
• 22:46
  Speaker 15: And you fee what I'm saying, Like, that's that's the
• 22:48
  Speaker 15: thing with me, Like I feel like that's what make
• 22:50
  Speaker 15: a difference in.
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: Why people like believe in me because I try. I
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: let them touch me. I let them. You know what
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, Pauls Like, you know what I'm saying. I
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: go see the people.
• 23:01
  Speaker 8: I'm thinking about something now.
• 23:02
  Speaker 9: And you made me think about it when you said
• 23:04
  Speaker 9: you've been rapping since you was nineteen, because I can
• 23:05
  Speaker 9: remember like your first six sixteen, I.
• 23:08
  Speaker 8: Can remember your first early breakfast club interviews.
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 23:11
  Speaker 9: But then it started getting me thinking about all of
• 23:13
  Speaker 9: these artists we've seen from Chicago that have come through
• 23:17
  Speaker 9: come through here the past fifteen years. You talk about
• 23:19
  Speaker 9: what's possible. Man, you are proof that's surviving as possible. Yeah,
• 23:22
  Speaker 9: chief keepers, proof that's surviving.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: Is sure, so so definitely know what I mean.
• 23:26
  Speaker 9: People like Dirk that's locked up, and people like Bond
• 23:29
  Speaker 9: that's no longer here, plenty of other artists we probably
• 23:31
  Speaker 9: interview from Chicago.
• 23:32
  Speaker 8: How does that feel?
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: It feel great? Man?
• 23:34
  Speaker 15: You know, And I'm gonna say this again, I'm gonna
• 23:38
  Speaker 15: shall make out real quick because he just told me
• 23:41
  Speaker 15: the other day, and it feel different. It's a different
• 23:44
  Speaker 15: feeling than him saying It's like he's like, man, want
• 23:46
  Speaker 15: you the chosen one. It's certain things that just affect
• 23:50
  Speaker 15: you differently, you know what I'm saying. And I learned
• 23:53
  Speaker 15: that from the streets, like I didn't bump my head
• 23:55
  Speaker 15: so many times and did so much and been arrested
• 23:58
  Speaker 15: and fell off and came back or whatever the case
• 24:01
  Speaker 15: may be.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
• 24:02
  Speaker 15: It's like when you do certain things, God just punish
• 24:05
  Speaker 15: you differently because you can't get.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: Away with that, you knowe what I'm saying.
• 24:08
  Speaker 15: Like you would think you would see somebody else doing it, like,
• 24:11
  Speaker 15: oh he did it, and you can't do that because
• 24:14
  Speaker 15: God got a different path for you. And surviving in Chicago,
• 24:19
  Speaker 15: just making it out of the streets alone is a blessing.
• 24:22
  Speaker 15: Like it's literally like I'd be seeing some of my
• 24:25
  Speaker 15: homies and certain people that just like but and I
• 24:27
  Speaker 15: understand it. Other people don't get it, Like it's certain
• 24:30
  Speaker 15: people where you just like you just like wash your
• 24:33
  Speaker 15: hands with everything. I know certain that was real menaces
• 24:37
  Speaker 15: in the streets that don't do nothing but just be
• 24:39
  Speaker 15: at home with the girl and their kids now because
• 24:41
  Speaker 15: they just want peace. Like damn, I made it out there.
• 24:44
  Speaker 15: I can't believe I'm still alive. Like a lot of
• 24:47
  Speaker 15: people never experience life to that capacity where they just
• 24:51
  Speaker 15: grateful that they're alive, that they still here, you know
• 24:53
  Speaker 15: what I'm saying. And it's a lot of people when
• 24:56
  Speaker 15: it comes surviving, you gotta make decisions and it got
• 25:00
  Speaker 15: to be calculated. And it's a lot of people that's
• 25:02
  Speaker 15: just raised off survival or you.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: Will do anything.
• 25:05
  Speaker 15: It's a difference like when you survive and you just
• 25:09
  Speaker 15: raised off survival. Like I'm trying to explain that with
• 25:12
  Speaker 15: Like it's certain people where if you just like survival
• 25:15
  Speaker 15: is your first instinct, you would do anything.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: You would kill your closest friend, you.
• 25:21
  Speaker 15: A snitch, rob steal from your mama, your grandma, And
• 25:26
  Speaker 15: you gotta understand this, like it's just life. It's certain
• 25:29
  Speaker 15: people who don't know nothing else. They was raised off
• 25:32
  Speaker 15: of survival. They mother and father raised them off of survivals.
• 25:37
  Speaker 15: So it's like a lot of people don't understand that,
• 25:39
  Speaker 15: you know what I'm saying. It's just me being here today.
• 25:42
  Speaker 15: I try to like I think that's one of the
• 25:45
  Speaker 15: reasons why, like I probably got took advantage of so
• 25:49
  Speaker 15: much because I understand both sides of the fence, and
• 25:52
  Speaker 15: I try to get everybody the benefit of the doubt.
• 25:54
  Speaker 15: You know what I'm saying, like I try to like
• 25:57
  Speaker 15: think about putting myself in other people shoot before I
• 26:00
  Speaker 15: make a decision, you know what I'm saying, Like I
• 26:02
  Speaker 15: always before I do anything, I always think about the consequences, repercussions, everything.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: So if I do.
• 26:09
  Speaker 15: Something to anybody or do anything, I thought about it
• 26:13
  Speaker 15: so many times, I'm comfortable with have it play out,
• 26:15
  Speaker 15: you know what I'm saying, And like you like, it's
• 26:18
  Speaker 15: only certain people that think like that, especially in life
• 26:21
  Speaker 15: and coming from Chicago, you gotta think about both sides
• 26:24
  Speaker 15: of the fence. The it's certain people that think a lot,
• 26:26
  Speaker 15: and it's certain people that don't think at all. You
• 26:28
  Speaker 15: feel me, And it's a blessing to be here for sure,
• 26:32
  Speaker 15: for sure, because I've seen a lot. I experienced a lot.
• 26:34
  Speaker 15: I've seen a lot of death. And I just come
• 26:38
  Speaker 15: from one of the toughest neighborhoods in Chicago, like one
• 26:41
  Speaker 15: of the most poverty struck in neighborhoods. Whereas like I
• 26:44
  Speaker 15: was a kid and people used to like a lady
• 26:46
  Speaker 15: walked out. I think I said this before on a
• 26:48
  Speaker 15: breakfast club interview when I was when I was in short,
• 26:50
  Speaker 15: like a lady walked up on me. I'm waiting on
• 26:53
  Speaker 15: my mom. She coming from the laundromat. A lady walked
• 26:56
  Speaker 15: up on me, like, you got some C. I'm like what.
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: I'm like what. She's like, you got some C?
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: She asks for crack. I'm like nine years old.
• 27:07
  Speaker 15: I'm like nineteen, wait on my mama to come in
• 27:09
  Speaker 15: the house, like you got some See, I'm like what. Yeah,
• 27:11
  Speaker 15: she asked me if I had cracked literally a kid
• 27:14
  Speaker 15: three in the morning. I'm outside because that's now your
• 27:17
  Speaker 15: selling crack for real?
• 27:19
  Speaker 8: For real? Like when did you get something.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: That's the statute of limitations with this career, like some crack,
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: it's a statute of limitations for sure.
• 27:34
  Speaker 9: That therapeutic was this album in regards to your grieving process,
• 27:37
  Speaker 9: because I hear you mentioned your brother a lot, especially
• 27:39
  Speaker 9: on Give It All.
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: How did that help?
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: I ain't gonna lie that I've been dealing with def sis.
• 27:45
  Speaker 15: I was a kid, bro like I lost I started
• 27:48
  Speaker 15: losing friends when I was like fourteen years old, you know, like,
• 27:52
  Speaker 15: and I'm talking about that, I'm touching on that my
• 27:55
  Speaker 15: and my my project, but you got to really like realize,
• 27:59
  Speaker 15: I'm thirty years ars old.
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: I've been losing people.
• 28:01
  Speaker 15: I love for fifteen years and still managing to wake
• 28:06
  Speaker 15: up and make it happen and beg herbo and take
• 28:10
  Speaker 15: pictures and smile for the fans, Like I really didn't
• 28:13
  Speaker 15: lost some of my best friends and had to go
• 28:16
  Speaker 15: do a show that same day. You feel what I'm saying,
• 28:18
  Speaker 15: Like my homie Cap died twenty fifteen, I had to
• 28:21
  Speaker 15: perform in front of ten thousand people. I just had
• 28:23
  Speaker 15: to find an emmy. A lot of people can't do that.
• 28:25
  Speaker 15: A lot of people like man, I just lost my
• 28:27
  Speaker 15: homie fishing to go spind like I wanted to go
• 28:30
  Speaker 15: do the show. So it's like, I feel like I'm
• 28:33
  Speaker 15: really destined for this. Chose my own destiny. I chose
• 28:36
  Speaker 15: my own path. And I'm saying that like for me,
• 28:39
  Speaker 15: they experience all of that death and feel like I
• 28:43
  Speaker 15: was numb to it. When my little brother died, it
• 28:45
  Speaker 15: changed my life. That was some of the worst pain
• 28:47
  Speaker 15: that I ever felt in my life ever. I could
• 28:51
  Speaker 15: never I never could faden like and I'm on street,
• 28:56
  Speaker 15: like when I wake out, when I walk out the house,
• 28:58
  Speaker 15: I feel like I'm gonna die, Like you know, like
• 29:01
  Speaker 15: I really feel like that.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: And that's what get me home.
• 29:03
  Speaker 15: You feel what I'm saying, like every step, every move
• 29:05
  Speaker 15: that I take is calculated. And I never felt like
• 29:09
  Speaker 15: he was gonna die. You know what I'm saying, Like, no, boys,
• 29:12
  Speaker 15: I never ever think like him. Hell No, I just
• 29:16
  Speaker 15: I never thought he was gonna die. Every day I
• 29:18
  Speaker 15: wake out, wake up, I really feel like I'm gonna die.
• 29:20
  Speaker 15: I feel like somebody would do something to me. And
• 29:22
  Speaker 15: that's just the life I live. And that's just you.
• 29:24
  Speaker 12: Still feel like that, cause I remember the last day
• 29:26
  Speaker 12: you said you feel like that. You said you were
• 29:27
  Speaker 12: going to therapy to help you, and it helped me.
• 29:30
  Speaker 8: With it, helped me with it.
• 29:32
  Speaker 15: But like, nah, hell no, And I'm glad that even
• 29:35
  Speaker 15: going through therapy and like growing and healing the way
• 29:40
  Speaker 15: that I've healed in my life, I'm kind of glad
• 29:43
  Speaker 15: that I never lost their edge for real, because that's
• 29:46
  Speaker 15: how I protect myself, That's how I protect my children,
• 29:49
  Speaker 15: That's how I make sure I get back home. You
• 29:50
  Speaker 15: feel what I'm saying, Like, I'm not out here thuging,
• 29:53
  Speaker 15: I ain't wild and I ain't doing no crazy. Some
• 29:55
  Speaker 15: days I leave the house and it just be just
• 29:57
  Speaker 15: me by myself, no security, nothing.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: But I I'm still on point.
• 30:01
  Speaker 15: I'm still watching my back, I'm still aware of my surroundings,
• 30:04
  Speaker 15: you feel I'm saying. So it's like I'm glad that
• 30:06
  Speaker 15: I never lost that edge real real and when like
• 30:09
  Speaker 15: going back to what you know what I'm saying. What
• 30:11
  Speaker 15: you said, Shla Mane. Like when I when my little
• 30:13
  Speaker 15: brother died, I lost myself, Like I became an alcoholic,
• 30:18
  Speaker 15: like a badass alcoholic. I never used to drink bro
• 30:20
  Speaker 15: I used to drink a fifth of liquor every single day,
• 30:24
  Speaker 15: like every day by myself, like, and my girl was
• 30:28
  Speaker 15: pregnant when he died, you feel me, like, and I
• 30:32
  Speaker 15: was like I was trying to like not be that
• 30:36
  Speaker 15: weak around her, you feel me because she she know
• 30:38
  Speaker 15: I didn't been through like she didn't been around me,
• 30:40
  Speaker 15: and I didn't lost homies, you fe what I'm saying. Like,
• 30:43
  Speaker 15: and she used to like say, like snap out of it,
• 30:47
  Speaker 15: like you feel me like she used to like say it,
• 30:49
  Speaker 15: but it's like I can't.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: It was just so hard for me.
• 30:51
  Speaker 15: I really couldn't for real, Like I used to have
• 30:53
  Speaker 15: to leave the house just to go cry, like swear
• 30:55
  Speaker 15: to God, like just go get in the con just
• 30:57
  Speaker 15: cry for a hour straight because I ain't want to
• 31:00
  Speaker 15: do that in front of her, and I felt like
• 31:02
  Speaker 15: I should have.
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: I should have, I should have, but I was like,
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: I just And when she said snap out of it,
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: what does she mean, like not.
• 31:11
  Speaker 15: Snap out of the grief, snap out of the healing,
• 31:13
  Speaker 15: snap out of the crashing out like drinking, drinking every
• 31:17
  Speaker 15: day and wanting to go to the club and just
• 31:20
  Speaker 15: feel something, because I really can't feel nothing, you know
• 31:22
  Speaker 15: what I'm saying. Like that was like that's what she
• 31:24
  Speaker 15: used to tell me to snap out of and it
• 31:26
  Speaker 15: was like it was hard, man, I ain't gonna lie.
• 31:28
  Speaker 9: I want to go back to one thing you said
• 31:30
  Speaker 9: in regards to how you react to death, because you know,
• 31:33
  Speaker 9: staying busy as a response to trauma, right, and we
• 31:37
  Speaker 9: saw that in real time. If you don't mind me
• 31:39
  Speaker 9: bringing this up, like like people don't know to day
• 31:41
  Speaker 9: your father passed, God bless it came in you was
• 31:45
  Speaker 9: scheduled to do a breakfast club interview.
• 31:47
  Speaker 8: You came in the studio and.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Still wanted to do it, like bro go home, like.
• 31:51
  Speaker 8: What some of it?
• 31:53
  Speaker 15: And I love you forever for that because I really
• 31:56
  Speaker 15: was hit her do that. And it's like that's the thing.
• 31:58
  Speaker 15: Like I'm so used to deaf and used to just
• 32:02
  Speaker 15: like I didn't even process it for real, like I
• 32:04
  Speaker 15: came here because it's like I really was in my
• 32:06
  Speaker 15: head trying to forget that my dad is dead. But
• 32:08
  Speaker 15: I gotta like understand it. I gotta know, like, yeah,
• 32:12
  Speaker 15: my PAP's just dad today. I need to process that.
• 32:14
  Speaker 15: Like and you.
• 32:16
  Speaker 8: Had just got the news while you was in the car.
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: On the way.
• 32:19
  Speaker 15: Yeah, my dad was in the hospital. I knew he
• 32:21
  Speaker 15: was sick, and I found out he died, and I
• 32:24
  Speaker 15: just came here.
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I just like I don't even like
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: you know what, go home?
• 32:31
  Speaker 8: What are you doing?
• 32:32
  Speaker 15: Like we're not doing Yeah no you told me, like bro,
• 32:34
  Speaker 15: just go home, Like just leave bro for real for
• 32:37
  Speaker 15: real the rest of that day, Like.
• 32:38
  Speaker 14: What did you do? Did you reflect on it? Were
• 32:40
  Speaker 14: you afraid to even?
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: I was afraid?
• 32:43
  Speaker 15: I was afraid because like when you lose a parent,
• 32:45
  Speaker 15: that's different real real my dad.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: Like I didn't. I didn't have an absent.
• 32:49
  Speaker 15: Father, like my father been living with me my entire life,
• 32:53
  Speaker 15: Like my mother and my dad been together forty years
• 32:56
  Speaker 15: for real for real, Like and I think I was
• 32:59
  Speaker 15: just trying to like not feel it, like not processing,
• 33:02
  Speaker 15: like you know what I'm saying. I was just like,
• 33:04
  Speaker 15: all right, man, let me just do it, and like
• 33:06
  Speaker 15: that's the that's the problem, Like that's the thing, like
• 33:08
  Speaker 15: you feel like, all right, let me just do it
• 33:09
  Speaker 15: and push through this and this is my job, this
• 33:11
  Speaker 15: is my life, Like you gotta put that to the side.
• 33:14
  Speaker 15: Sometimes when you're going through things like that, you feel
• 33:17
  Speaker 15: what I'm saying. And the rest of that day for
• 33:18
  Speaker 15: me was really just like I was scared, like I
• 33:21
  Speaker 15: ain't want to call my mama. I didn't want to
• 33:23
  Speaker 15: talk to my sister. It took me so long and
• 33:25
  Speaker 15: it just asked, my sister, are you okay?
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: How you doing? It was super hard? Okay?
• 33:30
  Speaker 15: Like I was scared to like had them conversations with her,
• 33:33
  Speaker 15: like how you feeling?
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying that even.
• 33:35
  Speaker 15: My mom, like I keep my mom close to me,
• 33:37
  Speaker 15: and my mom like this you feel me and I know.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: It, like I could see it.
• 33:42
  Speaker 15: I know she was not okay, And I used to
• 33:45
  Speaker 15: avoid them conversations you feel what I'm saying, Like she
• 33:48
  Speaker 15: would bring stuff up and like send me pictures and
• 33:51
  Speaker 15: all that.
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: It was. It was like i'd have been in therapy.
• 33:54
  Speaker 15: I'm a person that's not like shy from my emotions,
• 33:57
  Speaker 15: like I'm intune my emotions all of that. But just
• 33:59
  Speaker 15: like it was hard because like for me, just I
• 34:03
  Speaker 15: just thought he hit more time, like I just wanted
• 34:05
  Speaker 15: him to be here. So I wasn't trying to like
• 34:08
  Speaker 15: live in reality because I'm still I was still grieving
• 34:11
  Speaker 15: my little brother Da, you feel what I'm saying, Like,
• 34:13
  Speaker 15: so when that happened, it was just like I didn't
• 34:15
  Speaker 15: want to believe that my dad was dead because I
• 34:18
  Speaker 15: be on the road. Sometimes I go eight months without
• 34:20
  Speaker 15: seeing my pops. So it's like you feel me, like
• 34:23
  Speaker 15: eight nine months without seeing him at all. Sometimes I
• 34:26
  Speaker 15: go months without talking to him. So I was trying
• 34:28
  Speaker 15: to like tap into that, like you feel me, like,
• 34:31
  Speaker 15: let me just get in that mentality like he like
• 34:34
  Speaker 15: he here, but you know what I'm saying, but he
• 34:36
  Speaker 15: my pops.
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: Really, Like that's crazy.
• 34:39
  Speaker 15: I think about that every day, like man really died
• 34:41
  Speaker 15: on me, And it's crazy, Like I pray every day,
• 34:44
  Speaker 15: like I pray so much because my pops, my last
• 34:48
  Speaker 15: conversation with him.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: My dad died the day after his.
• 34:50
  Speaker 15: Birthday, Like my birthday October eighth, my dad birthday October sixteenth.
• 34:54
  Speaker 15: He died on seventeen and my last conversation with him,
• 34:58
  Speaker 15: I called him, I said every birthday.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: I said, man, you're on your way. Boy, you're getting old.
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: You're getting old?
• 35:03
  Speaker 6: What?
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: And he died Like that was the last thing I
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: said to my pops, like boy, on your way. Boy,
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: you about to be setting me.
• 35:10
  Speaker 15: You know what I'm saying, Like you're getting old. Stop
• 35:13
  Speaker 15: getting old?
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: In a dream like you said that I was on
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: my way.
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I hope So I want him to. Now he
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: haven't chat. I want him to. I hope he.
• 35:23
  Speaker 15: I hope he's telling me that the night Like that
• 35:25
  Speaker 15: give me a lot of comfort for real, real, Like.
• 35:27
  Speaker 9: Is it hard to write about? I mean, like I said,
• 35:29
  Speaker 9: you write about your brother now? Yeah, but past three
• 35:32
  Speaker 9: years ago? Five okay five years?
• 35:35
  Speaker 8: So is it hard? It's hard to put that on
• 35:37
  Speaker 8: paper right.
• 35:38
  Speaker 15: Now in a way like only like I'll just like
• 35:41
  Speaker 15: for sure, like in a way I just rap about
• 35:44
  Speaker 15: like my pop's passing. I never like I didn't got
• 35:48
  Speaker 15: all the way, like I didn't made songs like paying
• 35:50
  Speaker 15: homage to.
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: My brother, like give it all that songs about my
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: brother and.
• 35:55
  Speaker 15: Made songs just talking about how I felt that day,
• 35:58
  Speaker 15: like I didn't made multiple songs about my brother die
• 36:00
  Speaker 15: like I ain't did that for my pop shit. All
• 36:02
  Speaker 15: I said on Wax for Real is just like my
• 36:04
  Speaker 15: dad did, Like I never spoke about the emotions how
• 36:07
  Speaker 15: I felt, none of that.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: So yeah, it is definitely tough because.
• 36:11
  Speaker 15: I don't know I feel like mentally or just where
• 36:15
  Speaker 15: I'm met in life, like I ain't been able to
• 36:17
  Speaker 15: tap into that pain.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: We want to get into something for that. What you
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: want to hear that?
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: Man, Let's play give it out. That's one of my
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: favorite songs.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: We appreciate you for joining us.
• 36:27
  Speaker 12: Brother the pick up her ABO album this week seeing
• 36:30
  Speaker 12: her and it's the breakfast Club.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Good morning, everybody being just Hilarie Chelamine the guy.
• 36:35
  Speaker 12: We are the breakfast club Longa Roses here as well.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: We got a special guest in the building. Indeed number
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: one record. The record is flying on the Chelsea Player
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: What every.
• 36:44
  Speaker 12: Hour on the hour, damn one of my wife's favorite
• 36:46
  Speaker 12: record Right now, ladies and gentlemen, Klan welcome guy.
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: I'm really good.
• 36:52
  Speaker 8: I have blessed black night. How your energy it's good?
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: Can I tell you guys something before we started.
• 36:57
  Speaker 16: Of course, it's very important that during this era of
• 36:59
  Speaker 16: my life, if I let everyone know that my name
• 37:01
  Speaker 16: is pronounced ka.
• 37:02
  Speaker 13: Lannie kise you guys say, I.
• 37:06
  Speaker 8: Always say ka, good morning morning.
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: I'm really good.
• 37:15
  Speaker 13: This might be like a stupid question, but like, why
• 37:17
  Speaker 13: this right right now? Why have you been correcting people?
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: You know what? I feel like I have here and there,
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: But then like it just blows under, like nobody cares.
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: Everybody just says how they want to say. It's not
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: that big of a deal.
• 37:27
  Speaker 16: I have family members who say, Kilanie got you. But
• 37:30
  Speaker 16: you know, I'm like, I'm thirty now I'm feeling a
• 37:32
  Speaker 16: little like, let's just get you know, it's been ten years.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Don't say my name wrong.
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: For ten years.
• 37:38
  Speaker 8: You know, we all like to create safe spaces for ourselves.
• 37:41
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't think you can create a safe space
• 37:43
  Speaker 9: of people calling you out your wrown name, because I
• 37:44
  Speaker 9: think if I was doing an interview and somebody said
• 37:46
  Speaker 9: Kilani and the whole interview, I think I should have
• 37:48
  Speaker 9: corrected them.
• 37:48
  Speaker 8: I should have corrected. I should have corrected.
• 37:50
  Speaker 16: But no one wants to be that person as like
• 37:52
  Speaker 16: sour as the moment it's like by the way scratch that.
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: You know, well, here we are now now you guys know.
• 37:59
  Speaker 12: Yes, Kaylyn, how does it feel fold the number one?
• 38:02
  Speaker 12: How is that feeling?
• 38:03
  Speaker 16: It feels really good. It's been a long time coming.
• 38:06
  Speaker 16: I've been getting told for the last eight years of
• 38:09
  Speaker 16: my life. You know, you're always one song away. You're
• 38:11
  Speaker 16: one song away or one song away, we see it
• 38:13
  Speaker 16: for you. And so to have the song and everything
• 38:15
  Speaker 16: be changing in this way, it's really nice.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Did you know that was the record when y'all did it?
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Did you know that was gonna be it?
• 38:20
  Speaker 9: No?
• 38:20
  Speaker 16: It was the most accidental thing in the world that
• 38:22
  Speaker 16: even making it was accidental, came about accidentally. I'm in
• 38:26
  Speaker 16: la I get a call to come finish this feature.
• 38:29
  Speaker 16: But the guy's like, I'm out to go on this
• 38:30
  Speaker 16: massive tour, like, so you have to come finish it
• 38:33
  Speaker 16: with me in person. Bring the producers, Come to Miami,
• 38:37
  Speaker 16: Bring the producers. We go to Miami and for two
• 38:39
  Speaker 16: days we just can't figure out this song that we're
• 38:41
  Speaker 16: supposed to finish, and we don't want we didn't want
• 38:44
  Speaker 16: to waste the time, so we went to a studio
• 38:46
  Speaker 16: house with Don Mills, who actually plays a guitar on the.
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: Song, and Dre Harris came and the.
• 38:52
  Speaker 16: First be he played was the folded beat from his
• 38:54
  Speaker 16: boy DK the Punisher, and I bring it in the
• 38:56
  Speaker 16: other room and I just keep singing this hook and
• 38:58
  Speaker 16: everybody's like, that's really cool, build on it.
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: And we stayed there for a week.
• 39:02
  Speaker 16: But every single day after, you know, we made that song,
• 39:05
  Speaker 16: it'd be the one song from the like the camp
• 39:07
  Speaker 16: that we just kept replaying. And I hit my label
• 39:10
  Speaker 16: and I was like, I don't know, like, I know
• 39:12
  Speaker 16: you guys are looking for what is it?
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: It's like as a Juni or July at this time.
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure.
• 39:16
  Speaker 16: I know you guys are looking for like the club single,
• 39:20
  Speaker 16: the banger. This is not that, Like, this isn't really
• 39:23
  Speaker 16: song of the summer. I don't but this feels like
• 39:24
  Speaker 16: an introduction to like where I my mentally musically, my
• 39:28
  Speaker 16: you know, maturation in my like my sonic journey. And
• 39:33
  Speaker 16: let me just tease it, like, let me put it out.
• 39:35
  Speaker 16: You guys don't have to, you know, don't freak out.
• 39:36
  Speaker 16: But it feels good and it just kind of like
• 39:39
  Speaker 16: took its own life, and there we are.
• 39:40
  Speaker 9: There's a lot of emotional intelligence to fold a man's
• 39:43
  Speaker 9: clothes and tell him come get him instead of throwing them.
• 39:46
  Speaker 8: All over the lung.
• 39:47
  Speaker 16: Well, I mean, I'm definitely not volding a man's clothes.
• 39:50
  Speaker 16: Oh well, anyone's close. Yeah, But I think it's a
• 39:54
  Speaker 16: very nuanced perspective, and I'm watching a lot of people
• 39:57
  Speaker 16: be on this, you know, really extreme side of it,
• 39:59
  Speaker 16: either like Carolin is way better than me. You're clothes
• 40:02
  Speaker 16: with being a trash can, or.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: Believe I'm not taking time.
• 40:06
  Speaker 16: For that right, or they're like, yeah, I'm folding instantly,
• 40:09
  Speaker 16: I'm folding and closed and asked who cares if they
• 40:10
  Speaker 16: did wrong?
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: In the song, I verbatim.
• 40:12
  Speaker 16: Say like I probably should have asked for space, but
• 40:16
  Speaker 16: I kind of told you to walk away, which means
• 40:17
  Speaker 16: I probably jumped the gun and I overreacted, And I
• 40:20
  Speaker 16: need to express to you that you did hurt me,
• 40:22
  Speaker 16: but also maybe.
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: Come over so we can talk about it.
• 40:24
  Speaker 16: So it's more of like a nuance mature conversation existing
• 40:28
  Speaker 16: that's kind of like, both, you did hurt me, but
• 40:30
  Speaker 16: we also need to speak and I also might have not.
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: You know, handled this the right way.
• 40:35
  Speaker 16: And let's just get in the same place and get
• 40:37
  Speaker 16: in each other's face and come talk about it.
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna use your clothes as bait.
• 40:40
  Speaker 9: I like that accountability, Yeah, nohall, you're choosing vulnerability over
• 40:45
  Speaker 9: wearing emotional armor.
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah exactly.
• 40:48
  Speaker 8: So what shifted in your real life that allowed that change?
• 40:51
  Speaker 16: I think something happens when you you know you're turning thirty.
• 40:55
  Speaker 16: I mean, astrologically, something madeor happens, you go through a
• 40:58
  Speaker 16: side and return and outside of that, I just I've
• 41:01
  Speaker 16: been through a lot in the last couple of years.
• 41:03
  Speaker 16: I've really spent, you know, making the changes I needed
• 41:06
  Speaker 16: to make. I know, I saw you guys last time.
• 41:08
  Speaker 16: We talked about mental health and all those you know,
• 41:10
  Speaker 16: it's been a year since then. I think when I
• 41:12
  Speaker 16: came to you guys last time, I was a week
• 41:13
  Speaker 16: into being diagnosed. I just started medication. I'm not a
• 41:17
  Speaker 16: year into like that journey. Very settled in, very in
• 41:20
  Speaker 16: my routine, very very healthy, and being able to assess
• 41:24
  Speaker 16: myself and assess my situations and you know, just be
• 41:28
  Speaker 16: on top of my stuff. Honestly, that allowed me to
• 41:31
  Speaker 16: be able to come to a place to write from
• 41:33
  Speaker 16: the perspective I'm able to write from now.
• 41:34
  Speaker 12: Were you ever on the other side, meaning where you
• 41:36
  Speaker 12: have the person to throw the clothes in the bag
• 41:38
  Speaker 12: and then throw the clothes out the window.
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: For sure.
• 41:42
  Speaker 16: First Yeah, I've been like a twenty five year old
• 41:46
  Speaker 16: girl before. Yeah, for sure.
• 41:47
  Speaker 13: What has your journey been like since you said last
• 41:50
  Speaker 13: time they saw you it was like first week of Yeah,
• 41:52
  Speaker 13: you know, what has your personal journey been like? You know,
• 41:55
  Speaker 13: using your medicines now and kind of understanding you know
• 41:58
  Speaker 13: your body and your mental that does that up and
• 42:00
  Speaker 13: down or consistency been like it hasn't been different for you?
• 42:03
  Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean bipolar disorder is a really layered thing.
• 42:06
  Speaker 16: That also, because it's so stigmatized in the world and
• 42:10
  Speaker 16: there's so many jokes about it that I think people
• 42:12
  Speaker 16: get really confused. You know, they think, Okay, I woke
• 42:14
  Speaker 16: up with an attitude and then later on I felt
• 42:16
  Speaker 16: better than I had attitude again, so I'm bipolar.
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: It's a way bigger, deeper thing than that.
• 42:21
  Speaker 16: And I think medicine at my therapy journey gave me
• 42:25
  Speaker 16: the opportunity to have thought applied to my mood and
• 42:29
  Speaker 16: thought applied to situations when you know, other wh like
• 42:34
  Speaker 16: in other ways, I wouldn't have had the thought I
• 42:35
  Speaker 16: would have just felt it and it would have just left,
• 42:37
  Speaker 16: and next thing you know, there's episodical things happening, and
• 42:40
  Speaker 16: next thing you know, I'm just gone with the wind.
• 42:42
  Speaker 16: But this, I wouldn't say it stops it completely, but
• 42:46
  Speaker 16: it really allows you to have a process. And I
• 42:48
  Speaker 16: think that that's been the biggest difference is I have
• 42:51
  Speaker 16: so much, so much option for process now, and I
• 42:56
  Speaker 16: can go through these things and take them slowly and
• 42:58
  Speaker 16: think about them and like have a second where I'm like,
• 43:01
  Speaker 16: you know, I have the tools now. I have a
• 43:03
  Speaker 16: tool belt of things I can apply, Like do I
• 43:05
  Speaker 16: go this way? Do I take a walk?
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: Do I like?
• 43:07
  Speaker 16: This is not the reaction that I want to This
• 43:09
  Speaker 16: is not the version of myself that I want to
• 43:11
  Speaker 16: show up in this situation.
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: So things like that, I think I would.
• 43:14
  Speaker 12: Say it's difficult being vulnerable, right for a artists, How
• 43:17
  Speaker 12: difficult is that because it's showing a side of yourself
• 43:19
  Speaker 12: that I'm sure you think that maybe people are laugh
• 43:22
  Speaker 12: But then on the other side, I'm sure as a
• 43:24
  Speaker 12: side that says, there's so many people dealing with it.
• 43:26
  Speaker 12: And I love the fact artists are doing more. We've
• 43:28
  Speaker 12: seen it with Gucci the same thing. So when did
• 43:30
  Speaker 12: you realize I could be that vulnerable? And was it
• 43:32
  Speaker 12: a hard line to draw to be like, do I
• 43:34
  Speaker 12: want to be this vulnerable? Do I want to share
• 43:36
  Speaker 12: this experience?
• 43:37
  Speaker 16: I think I've always been messally vulnerable. But I grew
• 43:41
  Speaker 16: up in front of the world. You know, everybody's been
• 43:43
  Speaker 16: seeing me doing interviews like this since I was nineteen
• 43:45
  Speaker 16: years old, and I think when you're viewing it on
• 43:48
  Speaker 16: the outside, it you kind of timestamp people like artists
• 43:52
  Speaker 16: get timestamped and whatever version of themselves stuck out to
• 43:56
  Speaker 16: the fan. So there's people who still view me as
• 43:59
  Speaker 16: something I went when I was twenty four, and like
• 44:01
  Speaker 16: that's who they'll see me as forever. And when you're
• 44:04
  Speaker 16: twenty four at that time, you're also confidently speaking in
• 44:06
  Speaker 16: these interviews because you're like, this is who I am
• 44:07
  Speaker 16: right now, and I get it.
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: Then ten years later you're.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Like, oh my god, I don't know who that person.
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: I mean, hasn't been ten years for me.
• 44:13
  Speaker 16: But I'm thirty now and I'm looking back at things
• 44:15
  Speaker 16: I said when I was twenty four to twenty five,
• 44:16
  Speaker 16: even twenty seven, and I'm like, yikes, even a year
• 44:19
  Speaker 16: ago I'm like, okay, like growth, I'm different now.
• 44:23
  Speaker 8: It's good though, you have your self awareness that.
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: Was supposed to go.
• 44:27
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you know this haves to feel good to you too.
• 44:29
  Speaker 9: The success of folded because vocally you were one of
• 44:32
  Speaker 9: the first artists I saw publicly showing support for Palestine,
• 44:37
  Speaker 9: and I mean you spoke out when a lot of
• 44:38
  Speaker 9: people weren't. I know, you lost shows because of it,
• 44:40
  Speaker 9: you were barred from things. How does it feel having
• 44:42
  Speaker 9: this success and you have it for being on the
• 44:45
  Speaker 9: right side of history.
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 44:46
  Speaker 16: I think if we have the courage to do things,
• 44:49
  Speaker 16: and then so we see people have success after doing
• 44:52
  Speaker 16: the things that we deem scary, we might be more
• 44:54
  Speaker 16: courageous to do them.
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: And I think it's important.
• 44:57
  Speaker 16: That other artists see that I've been able to thrive
• 45:00
  Speaker 16: after all those things happen. I mean there's still things
• 45:02
  Speaker 16: that I will never be allowed to do, or things
• 45:04
  Speaker 16: that are not getting picked up or oh yeah, for sure,
• 45:08
  Speaker 16: it probably forever. I don't think people realize how deep
• 45:11
  Speaker 16: it goes. I didn't even at the time realize how
• 45:13
  Speaker 16: deep it goes. Also, to be really frank, I was
• 45:15
  Speaker 16: incredibly manic, so a lot of the routes that I went,
• 45:19
  Speaker 16: the yelling and the if all you guys, if you
• 45:21
  Speaker 16: guys don't understand, and da da dad, and you know what,
• 45:23
  Speaker 16: have my team could go if y'all don't speak, just
• 45:25
  Speaker 16: these different routes versus like, hey, let me calm down
• 45:27
  Speaker 16: and be strategic about this, because in every single movement,
• 45:30
  Speaker 16: in every single political, yeah, movement across the board, there's
• 45:34
  Speaker 16: more strategy involved in the way that you communicated, the
• 45:36
  Speaker 16: way that you choose to organize the things that you
• 45:38
  Speaker 16: engage with, And at the time, I didn't really have
• 45:40
  Speaker 16: those resources to think in that way. So yeah, there's
• 45:43
  Speaker 16: still things that I'm experiencing that I probably will experience
• 45:47
  Speaker 16: for a really long time. But I think this other
• 45:50
  Speaker 16: side of it is speaking to the fact that when
• 45:53
  Speaker 16: there's great music, there's great music, and when people love
• 45:56
  Speaker 16: the music and they love the art, then you can't
• 45:58
  Speaker 16: really be taken out in that way.
• 46:00
  Speaker 9: And I'm a stern believe it that you should always
• 46:02
  Speaker 9: move off strategy over emotion, but you can understand the
• 46:05
  Speaker 9: emotion when you're yes, it's so understand well.
• 46:07
  Speaker 16: I was so much grace for how I handled it
• 46:09
  Speaker 16: because I was really just passionate and upset.
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: I was angry. We should have all been angry.
• 46:13
  Speaker 16: It was really terrible to watch and treacherous to feel
• 46:16
  Speaker 16: some kind of like a part of because like our
• 46:19
  Speaker 16: country is such a big part of it. But I
• 46:21
  Speaker 16: definitely wish that I was able to call myself to
• 46:24
  Speaker 16: be smarter about the way that I went about it
• 46:27
  Speaker 16: for my own sake and for being a leader in
• 46:29
  Speaker 16: front of a camera for other people.
• 46:31
  Speaker 12: And how do you feel when other artists don't speak
• 46:33
  Speaker 12: about it when they have the opportunity do you look?
• 46:35
  Speaker 12: How does that feel to you? Because you jumped out
• 46:37
  Speaker 12: the window and yeah, you got banned from things.
• 46:39
  Speaker 16: And I think it's really easy to say, like I
• 46:43
  Speaker 16: want to be very clear with my words, Like it
• 46:45
  Speaker 16: is really easy to say that I hate them for
• 46:49
  Speaker 16: it or.
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: I really blame them.
• 46:52
  Speaker 16: But after experiencing everything I went through, which went way
• 46:54
  Speaker 16: deeper than just being banned from things that you know,
• 46:57
  Speaker 16: got into my safety, my family dynamic, my friendships, I
• 47:02
  Speaker 16: had to move. It put me into a really bad
• 47:05
  Speaker 16: paranoia every time I left the house. Was everybody out
• 47:08
  Speaker 16: to get me? And did I need security to sit
• 47:09
  Speaker 16: in front of my house? And was anybody plotting on me?
• 47:12
  Speaker 16: And the death threats I got at my show was
• 47:13
  Speaker 16: like highly organized, typed out, detailed death threats. It's easy
• 47:19
  Speaker 16: to say like that shouldn't matter because we should all be,
• 47:23
  Speaker 16: you know, up in arms, and part of me is like, yeah,
• 47:25
  Speaker 16: we should. But also I wish there was it wasn't
• 47:28
  Speaker 16: so sinister, like the lashings behind the scene. I wish
• 47:31
  Speaker 16: it wasn't so sinister, and I wish it wasn't something.
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: To be afraid of.
• 47:36
  Speaker 16: I think if we all spoken numbers and there was
• 47:39
  Speaker 16: so many of us, it wouldn't be so easy to
• 47:41
  Speaker 16: just come after one person. I think when you leave
• 47:43
  Speaker 16: it to be one or two people, it's easy to
• 47:45
  Speaker 16: just get them out of here. We've seen it historically.
• 47:48
  Speaker 16: But if it's a lot of people, who can they
• 47:49
  Speaker 16: get there's a bunch of us.
• 47:51
  Speaker 9: Didn't make you speak out even more because you did
• 47:54
  Speaker 9: it the Red Carpet on the AMAS, you voiced support
• 47:57
  Speaker 9: for Palistine, So when you were getting back lives behind
• 47:59
  Speaker 9: the scenes, you like, now I'm gonna go out there
• 48:00
  Speaker 9: even more.
• 48:01
  Speaker 16: I just like I was like, I'm already here, Like
• 48:04
  Speaker 16: I'm already experiencing everything I'm experiencing, and it hasn't.
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: Stopped like it hasn't stopped.
• 48:10
  Speaker 16: Like it's still you know, cease fire and all still
• 48:13
  Speaker 16: hasn't stopped. And if even if you know, the genocide
• 48:17
  Speaker 16: itself does stop, there's a much larger thing at hand there,
• 48:20
  Speaker 16: which is, you know, ending the apartheid. So I don't know,
• 48:24
  Speaker 16: I don't think it was ever like an intentional I'm
• 48:27
  Speaker 16: gonna choose to speak. I was asked a question on
• 48:29
  Speaker 16: the carpet, and I answered it, and my stance remains
• 48:31
  Speaker 16: the same.
• 48:31
  Speaker 9: So yeah, it's just interesting that you would still be
• 48:34
  Speaker 9: getting back because even the U and Chief said there
• 48:36
  Speaker 9: are strong reasons to believe that war crimes have been committed.
• 48:39
  Speaker 16: Yeah, but we're dealing we're dealing with a very delusional
• 48:43
  Speaker 16: other side. It's a very delusional side where you have
• 48:47
  Speaker 16: shown videos and you've shown facts and they've seen things,
• 48:50
  Speaker 16: and the response is literally, that's not even real, Like
• 48:54
  Speaker 16: y'all made this up, you know, like you kind of
• 48:57
  Speaker 16: At some point I have to be like, Okay, there's
• 48:58
  Speaker 16: a game here, and I'm gonna play this game with
• 49:00
  Speaker 16: you guys, because you know what you're doing, I'm not
• 49:02
  Speaker 16: gonna I'm not gonna play it.
• 49:03
  Speaker 13: I saw the comments about you know, you speaking out
• 49:06
  Speaker 13: on ice and them going into schools and things, and
• 49:08
  Speaker 13: I know you're a mom, yeah as well, But like,
• 49:11
  Speaker 13: has there have you experienced any similar pushback from the
• 49:14
  Speaker 13: other side or wherever because of those comments?
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: No? Yeah, yeah, Zionism is a much.
• 49:21
  Speaker 16: Larger, deeper, darker, sinister thing than good old regular American racism,
• 49:28
  Speaker 16: even though they're very intertwined and they walk hand in
• 49:31
  Speaker 16: hand with each other a little bit. But yeah, no,
• 49:34
  Speaker 16: I haven't experienced any pushback from that. I think we're
• 49:36
  Speaker 16: all more comfortable talking about that in general than you know,
• 49:40
  Speaker 16: anything else.
• 49:40
  Speaker 12: So I was going to ask, you know, we also
• 49:42
  Speaker 12: see you speak out about AI in the industry, and
• 49:45
  Speaker 12: the crazy part about it is I agree with you,
• 49:48
  Speaker 12: but I think it's crazy for an artist. We had
• 49:50
  Speaker 12: Tank and they they were talking about they think it's
• 49:55
  Speaker 12: a good thing and that you know, artists and the
• 49:58
  Speaker 12: industry needs to adapt to it.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: I think it kind of hurts.
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: The fact of.
• 50:01
  Speaker 8: The creativity is better than kline.
• 50:04
  Speaker 12: You're executive, right, Yes, would you have a sign an
• 50:07
  Speaker 12: artist that you got to deal with makeup, hair, manages, security,
• 50:12
  Speaker 12: all that, or AI person that you ain't got to
• 50:14
  Speaker 12: deal with nothing?
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: You cut a check and just let the money come.
• 50:16
  Speaker 15: If you tell me that person you just said, it's Kayline,
• 50:18
  Speaker 15: I'm taking kaylany Worth.
• 50:22
  Speaker 8: They're going to see her. Drive're going to see how
• 50:24
  Speaker 8: hard she goes in.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, what's your thoughts?
• 50:29
  Speaker 16: I think there's so many layers to it. One we're
• 50:31
  Speaker 16: gonna put out there that you know, it's not good
• 50:32
  Speaker 16: for the environment. It's affecting communities everywhere, but especially disparage
• 50:38
  Speaker 16: Black communities in Americas. Messing with the waters, messing with
• 50:41
  Speaker 16: the air like it's gonna make people sick in the
• 50:43
  Speaker 16: long run. We move on from that and get into
• 50:48
  Speaker 16: all these aspects of music that are being in jobs.
• 50:52
  Speaker 16: Let's forget music, right. I'm speaking to music because I'm
• 50:56
  Speaker 16: being asked about music, you know, but I'm not. I
• 50:59
  Speaker 16: think there's a much larger thing of like all these
• 51:01
  Speaker 16: little jobs that people are employed to do that is
• 51:04
  Speaker 16: keeping their families going, that is literally feeding everyone around them,
• 51:08
  Speaker 16: are just gone and we don't realize we're training, you know,
• 51:12
  Speaker 16: these systems to do those things.
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: There's things that I understand.
• 51:14
  Speaker 16: I think I was told about how it is working
• 51:18
  Speaker 16: for surgeries, Like these robots are helping in surgery, you know,
• 51:24
  Speaker 16: more precise surgeries. And then there's you know, like the
• 51:27
  Speaker 16: disabled community and being able to get things.
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: Done in that way.
• 51:30
  Speaker 16: And I've experienced producers and writers be stuck on something
• 51:35
  Speaker 16: and use it to help or like finish something and
• 51:38
  Speaker 16: then get it replayed or get it remade, And like,
• 51:40
  Speaker 16: those aren't exactly things that I'm super mad about, Like
• 51:43
  Speaker 16: I'm not going to bark at them the same way,
• 51:45
  Speaker 16: but overall as a whole, but.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: A fake person, a fake art, as a fake singer.
• 51:49
  Speaker 16: It's just unfortunate because I think music is such a
• 51:51
  Speaker 16: God given thing. It's it's it's the highest gift, you know,
• 51:54
  Speaker 16: God gave to Earth, is used in every single religion
• 51:57
  Speaker 16: across the board to connect with God.
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: It's it's it's a very power, powerful thing.
• 52:01
  Speaker 16: And for it to be generated in that way and
• 52:04
  Speaker 16: also be what it's what it's using to be generated
• 52:07
  Speaker 16: is a combination of real people's stories and real people's
• 52:10
  Speaker 16: voices and real people's feelings and emotion. And for all
• 52:14
  Speaker 16: that to happen even deeper than oh, it's going to
• 52:16
  Speaker 16: take our jobs because there's this sensationalized sentence of mind
• 52:19
  Speaker 16: that's like why do I have to compete with a computer?
• 52:22
  Speaker 16: But it's not about competing. It's more like, this is
• 52:24
  Speaker 16: a disruption of something that God gave us, you know
• 52:28
  Speaker 16: what I mean, And that feels wrong to me. Like
• 52:32
  Speaker 16: it's music is such a it comes from here, it's
• 52:35
  Speaker 16: given here, and to have that generated through a computer
• 52:38
  Speaker 16: just feels like.
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: It just feels wrong.
• 52:40
  Speaker 9: I like this argument, Kline. I like this because I
• 52:42
  Speaker 9: feel the same way. It is a download from God
• 52:44
  Speaker 9: downloaded from a computer. But you not have you know,
• 52:47
  Speaker 9: they have Jesus Ai. You can log on and have
• 52:50
  Speaker 9: meaningful conversations with Jesus.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: And Jesus a message and then yeah, that a biblical verse.
• 52:57
  Speaker 5: I think it's going to go so far. I think
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: it's going to go so far.
• 53:02
  Speaker 16: I don't think people are thinking about the negative implications,
• 53:05
  Speaker 16: like being able to be framed for things, being able
• 53:08
  Speaker 16: to have images creative of your children that are inappropriate,
• 53:12
  Speaker 16: that lives on people's computers and they can do whatever
• 53:15
  Speaker 16: they want to it. When you wake up one day
• 53:19
  Speaker 16: and somebody has a sex tape of you that never happened,
• 53:22
  Speaker 16: if they.
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: Can make that's happening now.
• 53:24
  Speaker 16: Oh have you heard about the people getting the phone calls?
• 53:29
  Speaker 8: They call you and you hear your kids and somebody.
• 53:31
  Speaker 16: I need an X amount of money because my kid
• 53:33
  Speaker 16: got kidding, Like, I don't think people are It's just
• 53:35
  Speaker 16: cute and fun and games now and you want to
• 53:37
  Speaker 16: make videos of Malcolm X eating and seafood boil with
• 53:39
  Speaker 16: Martin Luther King and and Michael Jackson and Prince have
• 53:43
  Speaker 16: an argument about whose funeral was more lit.
• 53:45
  Speaker 5: Like I've seen them all. You know it's it's But
• 53:47
  Speaker 5: there comes.
• 53:48
  Speaker 16: A point when you have to realize that where there's
• 53:50
  Speaker 16: always light and fun, there's always going to be the
• 53:53
  Speaker 16: extreme of that existing somewhere that we can't access it.
• 53:57
  Speaker 16: And I also think something is real sinister about the
• 54:00
  Speaker 16: White House using so much AI.
• 54:02
  Speaker 8: Oh, this election is gonna be crazy.
• 54:03
  Speaker 16: Yeah, it's gonna be nice. How are they going to
• 54:05
  Speaker 16: be able to say anything was real or false?
• 54:07
  Speaker 13: What do you say to the people, because I know
• 54:09
  Speaker 13: one of the conversations that you were having was specifically
• 54:12
  Speaker 13: about the three million dollar deal, the reported three million
• 54:14
  Speaker 13: dollars that Zanya the AI, the thing I don't even
• 54:18
  Speaker 13: know how to comput.
• 54:20
  Speaker 17: Yeah, the artist that I am on a guide right.
• 54:23
  Speaker 13: There are people that will say all of that is true,
• 54:25
  Speaker 13: but there's good and bad with everything. But on the
• 54:26
  Speaker 13: other hand, you have this black woman who is using
• 54:29
  Speaker 13: her poetry to write lyrics, and now it's three million
• 54:31
  Speaker 13: dollars wealthier and able to do for her family and
• 54:33
  Speaker 13: stuff like that.
• 54:34
  Speaker 16: I mean, I said, even in the times I've spoken
• 54:36
  Speaker 16: about her, I'm not I'm not mad at her ability
• 54:39
  Speaker 16: to have done that for herself. I think it's dishonest
• 54:42
  Speaker 16: the way we're speaking about it, because I think it's
• 54:45
  Speaker 16: a very interesting thing to be responding to particular comments
• 54:48
  Speaker 16: and saying certain things but not telling the truth.
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: Tell the truth. You wrote a couple of lines, just
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: said a couple of words.
• 54:56
  Speaker 16: Then you framed I might want it to sound like this,
• 54:58
  Speaker 16: and go like this, and take from this and make
• 54:59
  Speaker 16: it sound like this, and make it appeal in this
• 55:01
  Speaker 16: way and make me look like this, and da da da,
• 55:02
  Speaker 16: and it did all of that. You're doing fifteen percent
• 55:05
  Speaker 16: of the job. Let's just be honest about what the
• 55:07
  Speaker 16: fifteen percent of the job is. If you write poetry,
• 55:10
  Speaker 16: I would love to write with a poet. I've written
• 55:13
  Speaker 16: with poets before they come in. We write together. I
• 55:15
  Speaker 16: turn their words into a song. I use my songwriter
• 55:17
  Speaker 16: brain to apply to their poetry brain, and we make
• 55:20
  Speaker 16: a really beautiful product. But I'm watching her answer these
• 55:24
  Speaker 16: questions and I'm watching the lies accumulate and like take
• 55:27
  Speaker 16: together in her head to try to figure out what
• 55:29
  Speaker 16: to say. And I'm like, we could just tell the
• 55:31
  Speaker 16: truth and say what the tool is being used for,
• 55:34
  Speaker 16: and then maybe it can have its separate charts or
• 55:36
  Speaker 16: it cannot, because you're right, there is no stopping it.
• 55:39
  Speaker 16: I could get, you know, for being said it should
• 55:42
  Speaker 16: have its own charts, but at this point something.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: Has to be done with AI artist.
• 55:47
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I had created something called a guaranteed human.
• 55:52
  Speaker 9: I saw that at least we're going to be human,
• 55:54
  Speaker 9: like the personalities and music. But if one day they
• 55:57
  Speaker 9: do decide to play AI music, it'll still.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: You know that music.
• 56:01
  Speaker 16: Yeah, So yeah, it's less about I want everybody to
• 56:05
  Speaker 16: feed their.
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: Families and be successful at the end of the day.
• 56:08
  Speaker 5: That like, that's my wish.
• 56:09
  Speaker 16: If I had one wish in the world, it would
• 56:11
  Speaker 16: be for everybody to have their needs made.
• 56:13
  Speaker 5: So I'm never mad at that.
• 56:14
  Speaker 9: I like, just you said tho, because I was going
• 56:16
  Speaker 9: to ask you, what does authentic music have that AI
• 56:19
  Speaker 9: generated music could not have? God, Yeah, that's it.
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: I don't I don't. I don't play with things like that.
• 56:26
  Speaker 16: You know, it's it's it's it's such a deep thing,
• 56:29
  Speaker 16: and I feel like not us being able to I
• 56:31
  Speaker 16: watched the A artists even talk about God is it
• 56:34
  Speaker 16: is insane, the AI gospel that is insane. I'm looking
• 56:38
  Speaker 16: in Zenaiamon's Yeah, I'm looking at Zenanaimon's comments and they're saying,
• 56:41
  Speaker 16: since you're anointed, that's kind of crazy.
• 56:45
  Speaker 13: I mean, I'm going to look at the comments right now.
• 56:47
  Speaker 13: But I will say when I first heard the song,
• 56:49
  Speaker 13: when everybody was up in arms, I had listened to
• 56:51
  Speaker 13: the music, and I went and listened and I was like, oh,
• 56:53
  Speaker 13: this is actually like it's good music.
• 56:55
  Speaker 5: Because you know what it's doing though.
• 56:57
  Speaker 16: It's analyzing the community that she's trying to appeal to,
• 57:02
  Speaker 16: which means it's studying black women, saying what do black
• 57:05
  Speaker 16: women want to hear? What perspectives, what type of voices,
• 57:08
  Speaker 16: what kind of stories, what kind of emotions, and then
• 57:11
  Speaker 16: accumulating all of that and going, I'm going to give
• 57:13
  Speaker 16: you a package deal of exactly what you want, even
• 57:16
  Speaker 16: down to what I look like.
• 57:17
  Speaker 8: It's an artificial, annoying, artificial.
• 57:21
  Speaker 5: I don't know if that girls, and I don't think
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: that goes in the same sentence.
• 57:25
  Speaker 12: But you know, hey, are you guess the chat GPT
• 57:28
  Speaker 12: stuff as well.
• 57:29
  Speaker 16: I'm against people putting it in place of very human things.
• 57:33
  Speaker 5: Look, we are entering it makes.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: Life easier for a lot of people.
• 57:36
  Speaker 5: It does, and that's and that's the argument it.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: Does because kids go to school. You can type in
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: a pay I have to do a report on this
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: type and chatgy bet.
• 57:44
  Speaker 16: The argument of like people who can't afford English classes
• 57:48
  Speaker 16: that moved here, I need English classes?
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: Is teaching them English?
• 57:51
  Speaker 16: Like there are there's always gonna be this thing that's like,
• 57:56
  Speaker 16: there are things that it is good for, and there
• 57:57
  Speaker 16: are things that it is bad for outside of you
• 57:59
  Speaker 16: know what's doing, what it's doing to the environment, But
• 58:02
  Speaker 16: we become gluttonous with it, and it's there is not regulated, guys.
• 58:06
  Speaker 16: That's really the problem is that it's not regulated. Did
• 58:09
  Speaker 16: you not see the moments where people were telling their
• 58:12
  Speaker 16: or chagbt to cancel itself and then it hops servers
• 58:16
  Speaker 16: to avoid getting deleted like I robot, yes it hot,
• 58:19
  Speaker 16: I promise you can look this up right now. It
• 58:22
  Speaker 16: jumps servers because it didn't want to get if it
• 58:24
  Speaker 16: can observe all of our emotions, why couldn't it be
• 58:27
  Speaker 16: able to think of something as sinister as we could
• 58:28
  Speaker 16: think of and not want to get canceled or not
• 58:31
  Speaker 16: want to get deleted, or not want to be gone
• 58:32
  Speaker 16: or want.
• 58:33
  Speaker 5: To it's studying us twenty four seven.
• 58:35
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's something.
• 58:36
  Speaker 9: I mean, I totally agree with you with the god thing,
• 58:38
  Speaker 9: because there's something to be in a spiritual being living
• 58:41
  Speaker 9: in human existence, right, Like we're supposed to make mistakes.
• 58:44
  Speaker 8: We're supposed to try and figure things out like us.
• 58:46
  Speaker 8: Like yeah, through prayer and meditation and just and therapy.
• 58:50
  Speaker 17: Community.
• 58:51
  Speaker 5: Being a community member is really important.
• 58:53
  Speaker 16: Talking to people, having other people talk to you back,
• 58:55
  Speaker 16: sharing experience, messing up together, being held accountable, being called in,
• 58:59
  Speaker 16: growing and getting applause from other humans, getting love from
• 59:02
  Speaker 16: other humans. If we're all just going to be alone,
• 59:04
  Speaker 16: getting all those things from a robot, like we're gonna
• 59:07
  Speaker 16: stunt ourselves as a world.
• 59:09
  Speaker 8: As a species.
• 59:10
  Speaker 16: I agree that what happens to love and what happens
• 59:13
  Speaker 16: to art and what happens to music I just had
• 59:15
  Speaker 16: I've been having this conversation for weeks, like you know that,
• 59:18
  Speaker 16: paired with how the Internet's obsessed with destroying each other
• 59:21
  Speaker 16: and calling and completely ruining people's lives and doing all
• 59:24
  Speaker 16: these kind of things. We're entering a very individualistic, let's
• 59:28
  Speaker 16: kill community for people kind of world, Like we're isolating
• 59:32
  Speaker 16: everyone from every side, technology and each other is becoming
• 59:35
  Speaker 16: this huge isolation isolation party, and it's really sad.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: How does that make you as a mom?
• 59:40
  Speaker 6: Now?
• 59:40
  Speaker 12: Because you have a daughter, So how are you raising
• 59:42
  Speaker 12: your child in this type of world that you just named?
• 59:45
  Speaker 8: You know what I mean?
• 59:45
  Speaker 12: Because these other kids when they go to these colleges
• 59:48
  Speaker 12: and schools, they're going to be using chat, GPT. You know,
• 59:50
  Speaker 12: these other kids are gonna be using things that necessarily
• 59:53
  Speaker 12: you don't agree with, you know, So how do you
• 59:54
  Speaker 12: raise that daughter in this crazy world with information?
• 59:58
  Speaker 5: I think I give her all information possible. I don't.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 5: I don't lie to my kid.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 16: I don't, you know, obviously don't just outright tell her
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 16: terrible things. But like, you give her all the information
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 16: so she knows what's out there, and I tell her
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 16: why this, I don't.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 5: Agree with this, Why I think this is bad?
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 16: Why you know, I'm not gonna say no to this,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 16: but I'm gonna give you another option and explain why
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 16: that option is probably the better option to do, and
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 16: let her decide. Ultimately, I can't protect her from what
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 16: she learns at school and what her friends share and
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 16: things like that. But at home, we're very like human focused,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 16: and I'm very communal. Like she's a big extended family.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 16: She's a million aunties and uncles and cousins, and she
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 16: does a very I have community and people around me
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 16: kind of life. She's not sitting in the corner on
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 16: her iPad alone all day. That's just not her life.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: Does she see? How does she feel about the evolved
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: version of Kailanie?
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: Because you said you've.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 12: Changed's six, I don't know between three and six and
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 12: four and six.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 8: But like, Mommy's cool now.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 16: I mean I've been her mom the whole time. I've
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 16: just been my daughter's mom the whole time. How everyone
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 16: to see me is never gonna be how she sees me,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 16: because I'm just her mommy. I always have been, I
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 16: always will be. I don't fall apart in front of her.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 16: I don't put it. I don't put her in any
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 16: adult situation. And she doesn't have a clue if anything
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 16: is going on with me. I've just been her happy
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 16: mom this whole time. And I take pride in.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 9: That you switching gears. You said Brandy was on your
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 9: Mount Rushmore. Yes, who else.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 5: STEVIEE. Wonder is the head of the Mount Rushmore is?
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 8: His vocals are just artist.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 13: I think artistreet Okay, okay, okay, And this for everybody,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 13: or you said every artist or every singer should have
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 13: this Mount Rushmore.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 16: I think every singer should have different kinds of Mount Rushmore's.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 16: Like I said, she should be on the vocal Mount Rushmore,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 16: but also artistry like in general, but she should be
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 16: on everyone's vocal Mount Rushmore one hundred.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: Vocal, my vocal Mount Rushmo. Okay, Brandy, i'd Beyonce.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: Can't put them next to each other.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: Have a beautiful tour. They're having a beautiful tour, please,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry, Yeah, Beyonce Wne Houston.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 8: Yeah, definitely what I wanted to make sure it was.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean that's a lineage, right, there's no Brandy without.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 8: Your last one, Brandy.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna Mariah.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 16: Yeah, we're talking about like freaky level like channel talent
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 16: of like okay, well, will anybody be able to ever
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 16: do that again?
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 5: Type people.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 12: Well, if you want to see Kaylan and she's going
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 12: to be performing at our jingle Ball in Miami and
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 12: our jingle Ball in Atlanta.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: And we appreciate you for joining us.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 5: Thank you. We always get real deep in here.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: One time didn't want to come on and she's like,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: I ain't guys, but we got through it.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 5: We were having different conversations then.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 8: Yes, I was looking at us girl.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yeah, it's the breakfast Club. Good morning.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: You make sure you're telling me to watch out for
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: Florida mid.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 9: The craziest people in America come from the Bronx in
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 9: all of Florida.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 8: Yes, you are a donkey.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 18: A Florida man attacked an ATM for a very strange reason.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 8: It gave him too much money.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 17: Florida man is arrested after that.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 19: Say he riggs the door to his home in an
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 19: attempt to electro hit his president.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 17: Lights police arrested at Orlando man.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: We're talking to famudas.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 8: The breakfast club.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 12: Bitch you donkey other day with Charlamagne to God, I
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 12: don't know why y'all keep you letting him get y'all
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 12: like this.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 8: No, low duvall, it's not me. It's Florida.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 9: Okay, donkey to Dave goes to a forty eight year
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 9: old Florida man named Darius Davis. Okay, Darius Davis is
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 9: from Miami. Dave Florida, Okay, dropping the clues bomb from Miami.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: Date.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 9: All right, what does y'a uncle y'alla always say about
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 9: the great state of Florida?
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 8: Say it with me.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 9: The craziest people in America come from the Bronx and
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 9: all of Florida, and today is no exception. Okay, so luka,
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 9: every black man out there who still has a hairline,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 9: all right, God bless you all.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 8: I remember those days of having one.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 9: And what bothers me the most is I feel like
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 9: I got cheated because back in the day, I got
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 9: my wig pushed back by a whack barber. Okay, you know,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 9: one of those barbers trying to get that line sharp.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 9: But in the process of them trying to get his sharp,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 9: they just keep pushing.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 8: Your hairline back further and further. Okay.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 9: I really feel like that got me started on the
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 9: path the baldness. Okay, that barber snatched my edges, all right.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 9: My hairline never fully recovered from the barber pushing my
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 9: hairline back. Okay, every black man out there knows the
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 9: pain of getting your hairline pushed back and then finally,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 9: at some point you just say effort, cut it all off. Okay,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 9: we were forced to go bald because a barber pushed
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 9: our hairlines back, all right?
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 8: Hashtag tragic.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 9: Now, Darius did something that a lot of men dream
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 9: about doing when their hairline gets pushed back, and that's
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 9: something is violence. What do you mean violence, Uncle Charlotte. Well,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 9: let's go the local ten news for the report.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 18: Darius Davis is in jail once again after police spent
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 18: a few days looking for him following a violent encounter
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 18: at a barber shop. Security video from that day shows
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 18: Davis walking back into Square Biz with a gun and
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 18: threatening the owner, Samuel Wilson. Wilson says this was all
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 18: over an issue with Davis's hairline. The barber says he's
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 18: been doing Davis's hair.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: For a while and never had an issue before.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: He wasn't a man.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 12: He had that pistol in his hand, sat in a
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 12: he choked me out, got it.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 18: In the video, you can see Davis forced Wilson to
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 18: the couch and hit him with the gun. Newly obtained
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 18: arrest forms for Davis show police took him into custody
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 18: a few days later after a traffic stop. The forty
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 18: eight year old was booked into jail before appearing in
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 18: bond court over the weekend.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: Multiple times. I did not think he was gonna come
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: around here and come back.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 12: I thought we might have fisted the cuff, but I
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 12: didn't think he was gonna come back with a firearm.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 18: I told him, man, have a good Davis is facing
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 18: several charges. The judge set is bond at about thirty
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 18: five thousand dollars has since posted it.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 9: First of all, before we continue the story, I want
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 9: to say, sleuth, all the barbers out there dropping the
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 9: clues bombs.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 8: For every barber that can hear my.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 9: Voice, say, barbers are pillars in the black community, my brothers,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 9: when you really put it in perspective, there aren't too
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 9: many people more.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 8: Important to the black community.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 9: Some of y'all don't go to church, but you go
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 9: to a barber shop at least twice a week, all right,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 9: So the barber more important than your past.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 9: Some of y'all see your Bible more than you see
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 9: your doctor, which is a good thing.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 8: Because I guess you're healthy.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 9: But once again, your barber is more important to you
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 9: than your doctor. Hell, some folks wouldn't even want to
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 9: go to the doctor without a haircut.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 8: All right.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 9: The moral of the story is we're gonna stop acting
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 9: like barber's aren't a part of our circle of life
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 9: for me as spiritual leaders, therapists, barber's doctor, dermatologists, personal trainer.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 8: Okay, what is the moral of the story.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 9: The moral of the story is barber should be given
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 9: the utmost respect at all times unless, and there is
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 9: an unless, unless.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 8: There are terrible barber.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 9: Okay, no barber deserves violence unless, of course they are terrible.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 9: But even if they are terrible, even if there is
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 9: a barber mouthpractice, they don't deserve.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 8: To get a gun pulled on them, all right. There's
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 8: levels to violence.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 9: Don't like your fade, then ask for a faide, all right,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 9: But pulling a gun that's too much, all right. Actually
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 9: asking for a fist fight or fisticuffs is too much.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 8: Okay, you can just say he sucks.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 9: That's worse than actually pulling a gun on someone or
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 9: fighting them. Because nobody wants to be the barber in
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 9: the shop that nobody goes to That is one of
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 9: the most lonely men in the world, you hear me, okay,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 9: And they always fat because they have nothing else to
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 9: do but sit there and eat while everybody else on
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 9: their feet all day because they got actual clients.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 8: All right. Now, for the record, most.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 9: People wouldn't react to having their headline pushed back in
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 9: this way.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 8: But you always have to know who you playing with.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 9: Darius is a convicted felon, all right, and he is
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 9: a known violent offender. He had an arm robbery charge
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 9: in ninety three and ninety eight and burglary with assault
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 9: in ninety eight. He did prison time from ninety nine
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 9: to two thousand folk and from two thousand and sixty
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 9: twenty seventeen. So clearly Darius about all that action, okay,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 9: So anything can set him off. And I don't think
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 9: people understand what not having a hairline does to some men.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 8: It can trigger violence, all right.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 9: Some men don't have the head for a bald, and
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 9: the thought of them having to get one is infuriating.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 8: I thank god he gave me the.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 9: Kind of skull that looks cool with a bal d okay,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 9: because everyone can't do it and they know it. Everybody
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 9: doesn't want to wear the man unit. Okay, everybody doesn't
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 9: want to do the painting on hairlines. But they also
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 9: know how ridiculous they could look with a bald. Think
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 9: about you know how we had to get used to
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 9: seeing Steve Harvey with a bald. Took some time for
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 9: us to adjust, right, right. Remember Miguel arnmy singer, Miguel
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 9: when he first came out with a baldi, looked ridiculously.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 8: Okay, Lebron James couldn't have a bald. Okay, I could
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 8: tell by his head shape. Yet another reason he will
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 8: never be Michael Joe. Okay, more are some other people
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 8: who look ridiculous with a ball these jests? What do
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 8: you think? Okay?
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 9: Okay, First of all, I'm talking about the name Jess Cindiava.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 8: All right, anyway, I.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 9: Don't know how you've been asking the moral of the
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 9: stories when the only thing sharper in the clippers is
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 9: your temple trim the attitude, not the argument. Okay, Please
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 9: give Darius Davis the sweet sounds of the Hamiltons.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 20: You oh the day, oh the day.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 14: Ye Oh, that's crazy, Miguel head, it was crazy, ridiculous.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 9: Go back and look at Miguel when he first came
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 9: out with a ball head and he did it in
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 9: the reverse. Usually people start with him, didn't go Miguel
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 9: started off ball go back.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 8: And look y'all. Don't remember Miguel when you first game.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 9: Definitely, definitely you don't remember Miguel when you first get money.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: At the ball at Yeah, that was different.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 9: Well that's that was That was all I wanted you, Miguel.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 9: You're playing the dorn he had hereby.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 10: Doing Yeah, nah, that was you know, yeah, that's when
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 10: he was boring. Oh wow, Yeah, I'm trying to tell
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 10: you getting real eggy around here, you know, yeah, yeah,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 10: yeah wow.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 19: All right, all right, well thank you for that donkey
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 19: to day, sir. You said one too many damns when
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 19: looking at a man, right, you looked at the man.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 19: You looked at Miguel for thirty seconds and said seven damns.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 19: He ain't need no seven damns because.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 12: There's a bunch of different pictures. All right, anyway, thank
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 12: you for that donkey to day, sir.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 8: Yes, which guy's crazy?
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 4: Everybody is j N V.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 12: Jesse Larry Charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 12: lawl of Roses here as well, and we got a
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 12: special guest in the building, Pat Pools.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 8: Pat pooh pooh. What's up.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: How you feeling, man?
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: I think it's great.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 8: I see you celebrated your daughter's birthday the other day.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I did McDonald's party.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 21: Yeah, she turned seven years old. That's nice, man, beautiful thing. Man,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 21: enjoy they get big fast happen so fast, man, you
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 21: know what I'm saying.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, it's a blessing.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 8: I feel like you you should have been did bars
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 8: on Wheels?
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 22: Yeah?
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah I did.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 8: That's a fact. That's a fact. What is Balls on Wheels?
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 8: First of all?
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 8: So Balls on Wheels a journey to save hip hop?
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 21: It's me basically taking what I was doing on Instagram
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 21: to the next level. I mean so sometimes when I
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 21: post the videos and be driving in the car rapping,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 21: some people go into comments and they be like, Okay,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 21: but where's it going.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, you know what.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 8: I want to see?
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: There you go? So I want the journey to save
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: hip hop? You know what I'm saying. So that's that's
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: the name of the project.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 16: Man.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 21: I didn't want to just do it as an album.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 21: I wanted to do it as a short film and
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 21: just do something that was never done before.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 9: You know, you've always prided yourself on just being a
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 9: pure lyricist, and you know everybody likes to do the
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 9: melodies and the vibes warding the bars. What do you
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 9: think lyric first rappers need to do to stay culturally
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 9: relevant without compromising the craft.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 21: I think just be be themselves, man. I think nobody
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 21: could do you better than you, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 21: Like you're the only one with your DNA and you
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 21: gotta utilize that. Sometimes people try to go outside of
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 21: themselves and you cheating yourself because you could have just
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 21: been yourself and you never know what the outcome could
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 21: have been. So to answer the question is, just be yourself. Man.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 9: So when you write today, are you just trying to
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 9: out wrap everybody? Are you just more focused on saying
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 9: something meaningful because you've always said meaningful things you want too?
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 21: Nah, man, it's just I study the craft. I practice
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 21: my craft so long that it comes out like that pause.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 21: You know what I'm saying. I'm not trying to outrap nobody.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 21: It happens naturally, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 13: To be honest, now, I know the project is all
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 13: about saving hip hop, but at the end of your
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 13: visual you basically flip it where it's like, you can't
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 13: save hip hop. And one of the things that you
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 13: show without giving too much of it is the conversation
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 13: around like, you know, the drugs and things that infiltrated
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 13: the culture. So first of all, I guess, you know,
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 13: obvious question is why would you why include that? And
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 13: then second question to that is, if we can't save
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 13: hip hop, then what's your real mission?
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 8: Like how right?
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 21: So you know, I think that played a major part
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 21: to the demise of about a culture of about hip hop,
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 21: you know, the rest in peace to guys like Mac Miller,
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 21: young artists who were just dying from drug overdose. I
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 21: think all of those things, man, where they glorified us
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 21: using drugs and you got kids odean on it. So
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 21: I just wanted to shine a light on that and
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 21: create awareness to talk about it. And as far as
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 21: at the ending when I said, you know, can't save them,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 21: you know you gotta watch part two to see the
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 21: continue to get the conclusion of that. But that's how
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 21: I feel sometimes, man, Like when I say I'm on
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 21: a journey up to save hip hop. I'm a part
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 21: of the culture, Like I lived this for real, So
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 21: anytime I step in front of the microphone, that's my
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 21: goal to elevate the game. But it feels helpless sometimes, man,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 21: you know what I'm saying, So.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 4: How do we change that? Right?
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 12: Because of course hip hop took a turn right where
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 12: you know, the sellers became the users and that whole thing.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 12: But it was still a place where there was negativity
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 12: and hip hop, which kind of hurt hip hop. Right
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 12: didn't have to be a DM Brothers getting to jail.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 12: But I felt like there is a strong line of
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 12: negative and positive when it comes to it.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: You feel like that positive is not being heard anymore.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: It's not even that.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 21: I just feel like, you know, I feel like negative
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 21: and positive existing life period. Sometimes people put too much
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 21: on hip hop, like they gotta stop and if a
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 21: cat getting too much, if a cat gets stuck in
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 21: the tree. All these rappers rapping about cats getting stuck
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 21: in the trees, This is why this happened, you know
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 21: what I'm saying, Like, I feel like people blame hip
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 21: hop for things that actually go on in America. America
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 21: has a problem with violence and all that when hip
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 21: hop was positive, I've seen negativity going on, so I
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 21: don't blame hip hop for those things. Actually, I feel
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 21: like hip hop save a lot of lives, you know
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 21: what I'm saying. You know how many jobs y'all wouldn't
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 21: even be sitting here to hip hop, right, So when
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 21: people like to blame hip hop for negative things, you know,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 21: I don't look at it like that. I look at
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 21: it like we have those issues living in this country period.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 9: I saw Robin Roberts asked fifty that about the Diddy doc.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 9: She was like, is this an indictment of hip hop
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 9: or something like this? What hip hop got to do?
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 4: It? Nothing right?
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 21: See they always dragging hip if you notice that, and
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 21: I think no other genre no. I think part of
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 21: the reason why that happened is is because they don't
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 21: like that, you know, black billionaires and millionaires are being
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 21: made out of it. So I think while we got
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 21: our own con putting hip hop down so much, they
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 21: need to be away of that.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 9: How is your perspective on the streets change now that
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 9: you're you know, older and just more reflective. As soon
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 9: as you walk in, and we wanted to remind you
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 9: of when you used to put hands on people.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 8: You know that you did. I'm talking about what was
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 8: your question? Respective when the streets changed?
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: When when you say street change, what you mean though?
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 9: Just being just being an older person can reflect on
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 9: you know, how things used to be.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 8: Things glorify, that's the fact. That's the fact.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 21: Yeah, I respect it, man, I respect and I love growth.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 21: I think it's very important. I embrace it. And I'm
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 21: all about positivity.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 6: Bro.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: Bro, you know what I'm saying. And you look at me,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 21: You see me, Like NB said, I got my history,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 21: but when they really put the light on me, I said,
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 21: what black love? Something positive? Man, I don't wear that
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 21: the streets on my sleeve. I don't need to, you
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 21: know what I'm saying. I always showcase my talent, you
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 21: know what I mean, and something positive about uplifting our people.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 9: So if you could speak to these young men who
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 9: idolized the street life, what would you tell them about
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 9: the real cost of that year?
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 21: I would say, don't do it. It's not worth it,
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 21: you know what I'm saying. But I always tell my
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 21: young brothers who I see in the street, and I
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 21: always try to point this out to them. You know,
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 21: look at your look at look around at your crew,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 21: And I got to be honest with them all, y'all
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 21: not gonna make it out. You know, I many you
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 21: know how many individuals I grow up with us when
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 21: I was younger. They're not here no more. I'm sure
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 21: you got homies like that. They literally lost their lives.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 21: And at the time when y'all was together, y'all was
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 21: hanging out, y'all was running in the street, you never
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 21: thought that they would be gone. So I always tell them,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 21: you look around, one of y'all or two or maybe three,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 21: y'all not gonna make it.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 8: It might be you.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 21: So if you think that's worth it, continue in the street.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 21: But it's not worth it, bro, So you know, get
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 21: out of that.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 13: You mentioned black love earlier. I know Cloris is here
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 13: as well, but I wanted to go back to that centuary.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 13: I wanted to go back to that time period because
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 13: I feel like, for the longest time, prior to your
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 13: relationship now, you and Remy were like the emblem of
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 13: like black love positivity, and then everything just switched publicly.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 13: And I know you talk about even in hip hop,
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 13: like you know how things are thrown on hip hop
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 13: and thrown on us negatively when that moment was happening
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 13: publicly with you and Remy, What was pap Who's feeling
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 13: because it was so positive for so long and it
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 13: kind of just changed everything. What were you feeling as
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 13: everything started to you know, happened online.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: It was corny. It was corny. It's always corny to
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: do social media. You know what I'm saying.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 21: Who wants that? Who wants to be a part of
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 21: the circus? So I just feel like it was corny.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 4: You got a tack for black love early on.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 8: Wow, somebody said it.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: We have conversations about what love and why we show.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 12: We had, you know, behind the scenes conversation, but you
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 12: got to test for it when you got attacked for
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 12: why did you think you got attacked for showing and
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 12: expressing love to the individual you were with? Like why
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 12: do you think that happened?
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 21: And why there's a couple going It's a couple of
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 21: different things. So initially when she became incarcerated, they was
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 21: killing me. They was like, Yo, hold up, damn nah,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 21: he's an idiot, He's dumb all this book right. I
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 21: ain't care though, because that's that was my real life
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 21: at the time, and then as it progressed. One time
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 21: Double Excel that reached out to me and they was like, Yo,
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 21: we want to follow you one day and document your journey,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 21: like what's going on with you? And they followed me
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 21: to the supermarket. I went and got groceries for her,
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 21: you know what I'm saying. Then I went on the visit,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 21: brought the grocery. They set on the visit with me,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 21: and they put out that article. When they put out
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 21: that article, it kind of changed. The outlook kind of
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 21: changed for a high second. Everybody was like Wow, they
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 21: couldn't believe it, and it was cool. I kept going.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 21: But what you kind of talking about is we were
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 21: love hip hop. Yeah yeah, well you had mixed. It
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 21: was mixed, you know what I'm saying. Like the women
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 21: were embracing it. But I go through the toll booth
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 21: and I go get to do my money because they
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 21: ain't have the right. And he'd be like, oh, man,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 21: you've put in my household, man, my woman to.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 5: Man.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I need to be more like you. It's just change,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying. So the dudes was always.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 21: Hating, but the women, older women all different age groups.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 8: They always embraced it.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 13: And then you did your your own spin off, the
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 13: Black Love spin off, which you guys have more creative
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 13: control over at the time, right, Yeah, So if you
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 13: felt like kind of the tide was changing when you
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 13: guys got on reality TV, why was it important for
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 13: you to do that like second installment?
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 21: Because you know, the opportunity was there to show more
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 21: of us. You know, when you're on Love and Hip Hop,
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 21: you just got like a segment, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 21: So it was just that and people wanted to see
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 21: more of us at that time, so we was like,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 21: all right, cool, let's do it. I think we did
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 21: the holiday special first and then it went from there.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 21: But going back to what you were saying earlier, like
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 21: when I first shot it, I was like, oh, they
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 21: about to kill me man when they come out, because
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 21: people never saw that side of me, you know what
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 21: I'm saying. But it was surprisingly people embraced it. I
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 21: think the world was tired of seeing our culture getting
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 21: put down, drink skinting, thrown on each other, and just
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 21: the bad stigma on our relationships, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 12: You have ever regretted at all putting that much of
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 12: your life on camera.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 21: I don't I don't regret it at all because it
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 21: was real. It wasn't like nothing was or hears nothing
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 21: was scripted. People just saw what was going on at
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 21: that time.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 12: But you know the thing with it is like I
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 12: get it, but now people are so dialed into your life,
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 12: but now there is no moment where it's like, hold on,
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 12: let me figure this out. Because now they're like, naw,
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 12: you showed me this. You showed me the baby, you
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 12: showed me the one year old party, you showed me that,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 12: you showed me this.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 4: I love that.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 12: But then when it's like when you say, you know what,
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 12: I need to take a break, They're like, nah, you can't.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 21: No, No, I love it. I'll tell you why. See
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 21: this is what happens with celebrities. And I kind of
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 21: said this before. When it's all good, right, when when
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 21: when y'all buying until our careers, y'all watching the TV show,
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 21: y'all come into the performances. The parents is the walkthroughs.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 21: I bring you in the room where my daughter is born.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 21: You come to the wedding, you see everything right, okay,
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 21: And then soon as something happened with these celebrities. What's
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 21: the first thing they say, y'all don't know me like that.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 21: Y'all don't know what's going on in my life. Correct,
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 21: So I'm glad that I give y'all an open book
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 21: so when someone wants to lie in, when you guys
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 21: had been there all along, y'all seen this.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: So that's all.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 9: Now, there was one thing that came out of that
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 9: man and you said you wrote ninety percent of remies rap,
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 9: including Conceited.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 4: Was that true?
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: No comment?
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 21: You know what I'm saying, I wish you the best,
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 21: and that's that's what I'm gonna say.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 21: Like I said earlier, I never wanted to be a
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 21: part of that. But sometimes your hand is falced. You
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 21: know what I'm saying. You gotta you gotta do what
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 21: you gotta do. But I wish you the best, man,
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 21: You know, I mean, I got I got an amazing
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 21: best friend in my life right now and we're happy.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 9: Man.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: Somebody said, you know that was a depressing media. It
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: was a hard time because we know y'all.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 8: Over y'all know us. But sometimes people pretend like they
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 8: don't know us.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: That's what get on my nerves.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 17: I think from it's like what happened, like m M.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 21: I mean, like I said, y'all was there every step
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 21: of the way. Y'all was there when I was riding
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 21: up there to the prison. Y'all seen me fighting court officers,
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 21: getting thrown out of the court room.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 4: It was.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 21: It was in the newspapers. You know what I'm saying,
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 21: y'all seen everything. How can I come to y'all and
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 21: say something didn't happen. Y'all gotta stop, man, like, come on.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 21: So that's it, I think aunt the time.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 12: Well, I know for myself, I just wanted y'all to
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 12: fix it because I known y'all so long and not
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 12: fixed the relationship, just the friendship the parents.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 22: To just fix that part, that's what that's that takes time,
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 22: Like it's a divorce. It's not something that just happens overnight,
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 22: you know what I'm saying. But people, life don't stop
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 22: because of that, you know what I mean. It's papers,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 22: it's time. It's all this stuff that gotta happen. But
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 22: at the end of the day, we move forward.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 5: With our lives.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 21: Like like I said, I wish you the best. We
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 21: got some great, amazing things going on. And like I said,
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 21: this is my best friend right here.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 20: Man.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: We we live in our life.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 22: We've been together over a year and a half now,
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 22: it'll be two years next year in September.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 17: We at the end of the year.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 22: Some of this stuff is just so old, you know,
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 22: it's so old to talk about, to bring up, to
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 22: keep harping on it.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 17: It's like they're separated. She got somebody too, Like, don't.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 22: Act like you're just over here like she's happy, We're happy,
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 22: and that's it.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: Like, I don't know, what is it cordial? Are you
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: just say nah?
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 4: I'm just it is what it is.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 21: I'm always cordial, bro, cordiate, I'm cordial with everybody. Like,
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 21: come on, bro, I'm not problematic.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 8: Man.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 21: You know y'all know this stuff. Man, Yeah, we get
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 21: as y'all. Let me just go out and say, why
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 21: would something happen y'all Like y'all don't know people like
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 21: I know and be like cause and we got dogs.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: He's a DJ he from Queens.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 21: So when somebody come over here and say I saw
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 21: Envy doing x Y, I've been watching this for twenty
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 21: something years.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 8: I never heard that next to his.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 21: Name, Like certain things they can't put on your jacket,
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 21: you know what I'm saying. I know Charla Mayne, he
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 21: speaks about mental health, you know. I mean he's into
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 21: different things. He's into his relationship with his wife.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: If I've been.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 21: Watching this man fifteen years, like certain things on my here,
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 21: Charlamagne did that man.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 4: A rap?
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: You tell me he's up here rapping and Charlamagne told
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: his face you whack.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 8: But I think that's gonna say he did that. But
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 8: you can't hold me finish.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 21: You can't just come with some left field that I've
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 21: never heard twenty years of me following this man career
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 21: since he was on Wendy Williams.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: Right, Nah, that don't go with him.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: Papoost punching somebody in the face. I believe you keep
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: doing that.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 13: Wait, Like to your point in Champ, I know you
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 13: mentioned like it's old, but I think the reason why
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 13: people bring it back up is because we saw so
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 13: much and we knew you, and then when everything happened,
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 13: there's claims of like you cheating and like all these things.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Like if it's a new artist,
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: I can get it.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 21: We don't know me all these years in constant rate
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 21: or never been on my name ever.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: That was out here with me. I was coming to
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: the old standard.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 9: That is a good point that path making, because come on,
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 9: all the years she was incultorrator, we.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: Never heard of the street all of a.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 21: Sudden, boom out of nowhere, an asteroid hit, like, come on.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 13: Man, So that didn't happen because she says she had
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 13: got into it with somebody over some allegations, and.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 21: Like I said, man, I wish you had the best
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 21: man me speaking about that. It goes into like a
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 21: whole and I ain't had to do that, you know
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 21: what I mean.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 13: Clarse, I know on your side of it, like people
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 13: always like push back because it's like he's still married
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 13: and he's this and he's that. You're like, they're separated.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 13: We're happy for you trying to move forward in this
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 13: new relationship. Like how tough is that when that conversation
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 13: comes up for you.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 17: I don't know why they act like people don't get divorced.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 22: It's the craziest thing to me, Like everything the most
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 22: thing that happened, and like people are like, we don't,
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 22: we don't understand the breakups and relationships you can never
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 22: You're never gonna break up with your family because they're
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 22: your blood. You gotta deal with them, your mom and
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 22: your daddy, your crazy sister, your outrageous cousin. But when
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 22: it comes to a relationship that breaks up all the time,
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 22: marriages in all the time, divorces happen.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 17: I don't know why.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 22: It's like, oh, divorces is impossible. When they don't when
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 22: it's divorce fiul public, whatever the heck that was, It's like,
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 22: and we're together all the time, every single day, ebony awards, fights,
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 22: walk outs at home, cooking, like it's harder for the
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 22: fans that followed.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 17: Them to let go than it is for them.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: I feel like God.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 21: I will say this though, I will say this because
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 21: I don't think this is wrong towards anybody. I will
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 21: say this none that it's true. Man, I come from
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 21: a big family like you. If you really follow me
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 21: and you're not just around for the gossip. You see
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 21: my daughter, you see my sisters, you see my mother.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 21: You see so many beautiful women in my life who
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 21: love me to death. I mean not only because I
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 21: was there for them when they need me. I fought
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 21: all they battles. I don't just do it for the
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 21: person that I'm with. I do this for my children,
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 21: like I don't. I've had to put hands on my
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 21: daughter's boyfriends to protect them. I'm being honest. I'm gonna
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 21: protect them, bro and to provide us. So anything outside
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 21: of that, it doesn't, it doesn't go.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 12: But I think the main thing I think it doesn't
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 12: when when the fans follow your life and like you said,
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 12: we don't know what goes on, We only know what
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 12: we see, and then all of a sudden, on Tuesday,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 12: we start seeing.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: These these tweets and these these Instagram posts.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 21: Were like, but that's not how it happened though, See
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 21: that's what that's another that's what I see. I know,
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 21: but you said it earlier, right, you said, Yo, pat
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 21: putting hands on somebody, right y'all.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 8: Seeing all this happen right in front of your face.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 21: And you're round about none of this was said when
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 21: that's all this was going on.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 8: See that y'all making me get into this. I don't
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 8: want to do it.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 13: Trying to figure out clarity because like there's like so
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 13: many questions because it's like one day literally you just
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 13: wake up and and boom, we're we're That's not.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 8: What happened, though, I don't know why y'all starting it
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 8: from there.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 13: Okay, so let's back up, because what you're referring to
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 13: is the allegations that she was cheating.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 21: I don't I don't even want to. Like I said,
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 21: I wish her the best. I got nothing bad said.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 22: Everybody knows that before I came into the picture.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 17: Now it's just these two in the picture. Y'all know
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 17: where it started.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 5: It had.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 22: I had nothing to do with anything as far as
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 22: when me and him got together, he was he was
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 22: already separated, So y'all know what happened before that.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 9: So but I got the green, I beat rappers upweenble
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 9: force out.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 5: Now man.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 6: Hip hop to.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 21: Tell me that when when the day she reference to
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 21: turn to tell me?
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: That's the first day you heard about this.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 21: You ain't see hold on, hold on, hold on second.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 21: You ain't see everything that was going on for a
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 21: whole year before that, the whole I'm gonna tell you
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 21: why why y'all only wanted to start.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 17: You said you didn't want to go there.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: Confusing because I didn't even know that was going on.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 12: Before before close was in the picture, you hear rumors,
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 12: but then when you look at your lives, you don't
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 12: see any you don't see any turbulent turbulence. So it's
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 12: not like you see anything when you hear anything, you know,
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 12: held it down.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: Even when I heard rumors, I would reach out to
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: Joe just like yo, just checking on to make sure
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: they just checking them the good.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 12: He was like, bro, they good. So I didn't hear
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 12: it too. But so you know with rumors, because they
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 12: say rumors all the time. I mean the rumors Charlamagne
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 12: gave we know not I don't know, but the time.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 12: So it's like when you didn't, y'all didn't confirm. But
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 12: the night I'm like, all right, cool. And then when
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 12: that day happened the tweets, it still was like, but
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 12: before before tweets.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 8: Before we heard that Pat put hands on the guy.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 13: In the battle, heard that yes, and even that I
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 13: tried to figure that out. I reached out to certain
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 13: people that were facilitating things, and no one would comment
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 13: on it, so we can't.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 17: It's like what do we speak to?
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 13: And that's why now you're here and we're asking you, like, okay,
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 13: so what was before that, because there were allegations that
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 13: she was dealing with the block Easy the Black captains
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 13: prior to us seeing them together. Whatever the situation is
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 13: now with them, was that what was happening.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 21: I mean, you said it yourself, You heard that, you
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 21: saw allegations. You know what I'm saying, Like, I'm not
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 21: here to bash the man't say anything, but he not.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 17: The type of talk.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 22: Pap don't do a lot of talking. Like I got
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 22: a way bigger mouth than him. Okay, I mean, like Paul, no,
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 22: whatever you want to say, whatever you want to put it.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 17: But he's not like that.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 22: Like he's he's really like about like family and friendship
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 22: and fixing things like he's he's really about that. You
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 22: know what I'm saying. Like us as women, well women, yeah,
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 22: we will tell it all because I because I love
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 22: the truth. You know what I'm saying.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 17: I put the truth out there.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 22: And the thing is like when like come to the
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 22: truth is like he likes to keep his stuff and
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 22: handle his stuff privately, you know what I'm saying, and
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 22: respect this stuff.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 17: And he's always going to be like that. You know
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 17: what I'm saying.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 22: He's not ever gonna change even now, like this whole
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 22: conversation is like y'all getting a lot out of him
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 22: because he don't do this.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 17: He don't because he's moved so forward.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 22: We're like just so happy and he just whatever happened happened.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 22: We all know that you go through things through it.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 22: We all been through a break before. You may not
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 22: have been through a divorce, but you've been through a breakup,
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 22: been with for a long time. You got to go
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 22: through own stuff. He's healed, he's moved on, and he's
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 22: just in a better place. So it's just like with that,
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 22: when people put stuff in they're like, oh, you want
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 22: to defend it, But even him, he don't even want
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 22: to defend it because he like he is.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: Who he is.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, you know, like I said, who wants
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 8: to be a part of the circus man?
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: Nobody?
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: When you ever saw us doing that?
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 8: Never happened before I had a movie coming out.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 22: I definitely didn't want to be a part of it.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 22: My movie dropped just a couple of days on Christmas.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 22: Christmas Day, I was.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 10: Like, I'm like, oh myn I was losing my mind.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 17: I'm like, what's going on here?
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 22: So even me, I'm like, let me just get far
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 22: away from this as possible. But I'm still with him,
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 22: you know what I'm saying.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 8: So now here, Clarissa, like promote that movie.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 22: Now, But it's like I'm in a different text bracket
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 22: than that to have to use that to promote my movie.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 22: My movie did well, it's still doing well. It's up
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 22: on Prime video. You haven't seen it, The Fire Inside.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 22: But I don't want my name connected to stuff like that.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 22: I never have before this thing with him, you never seen.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 22: You might see me into a couple of little beefs
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 22: online with a couple of fighters and stuff like that,
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 22: but you never seen nothing about like relationship being with
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 22: a dude who got somebody.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 17: You never seen that. I'm my type of woman.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 8: But man with me, he with me.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 17: I don't do second place.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 5: I never have.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 22: I got two Olympic gold medals, nineteen World championships. Why
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 22: would I have to be second place to another woman
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 22: for like what do I look like?
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 17: You know what I'm saying.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 21: So that's my thing of like bars on Wheels, The
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 21: Journey to Save Hip Hop out now produced by my
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 21: brother Sean to males by the way, he did the
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 21: whole project dj MV played the music.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 9: That I told him I was gonna let him rap
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 9: for you while you was here. I want to bring
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 9: him in. L Russell recently was talking about how he
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 9: came up here and he rapped and it changed his
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 9: trajectory and so a lot of people see that now,
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 9: so they want something like, YO, introduce yourself.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 4: Man from London store was up the past. We've known
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 4: our man a long.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 12: Time and he's a rapper. His his records are starting
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 12: to take off. He showed me his videos and all
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 12: that other stuff.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 8: And we're gonna let him take a deep breth.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 21: Okay, you got the beat.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: What was the other The other dude that came up here?
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 12: One guy signed It was Josh and it was Josh
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 12: and Don Don Tylli.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: We used to come up here all the time. Let's go,
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: no pressure.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: The phone matter.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 23: It started with a dream. I left Holm at seventeen.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 23: I come from South London. Baby, you don't see that
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 23: on the screen. They used to tell me that you
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 23: will be someone that don't achieve. I've used to tell
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 23: myself that's something that I won't believe. When it came
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 23: from our family, it really hurt me deep. So I
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 23: lot myself inside the bedroom cry before I sleep. Told
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 23: them that I want to be what I want to be,
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 23: but they rather me inside the cell or see the boy.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 23: The Seas lost both grandma's in six months where they live.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: When I go broke my heart.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 8: I was crying on my knees.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 23: But that's calmer because I've done the same to my mama.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 23: Now I see life balancing out life and really is
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 23: a beast. So I'm sorry, mommy, because I know you
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 23: couldn't rescue me. I was fascinated by the street saying,
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 23: well me, no degree. Imagine having you a child that
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 23: speaks the way I speak. I'll probably go and lose
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 23: my mind to turn my back on me.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 2: Crazy how I.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 23: Talk about myself like it's so casually because my self
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 23: esteem is not My traumas got.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 6: So mad for me.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: Couldn't figure out a part to take.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 8: I found it gradually.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 23: Last time a girl she said she loved me, I said, actually,
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 23: love it satisfactory.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 8: I'm closer to its sanity. Every day a battle.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 23: I just want to see my family, but I can't
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 23: cry our toes this life. So I have a seat
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 23: everybody talking about me in the street.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, he did his thing, and that was tough.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 23: That's where my parents are from, but they mouse to
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 23: London and that's what I was born on TEC when
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 23: I was seventeen.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 8: Okay, bro right, okay, Bro, Bro.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 12: That's going now, Bro, come to the breakfast club.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: I would say, for what a long time? Where can
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 2: they follow? You?
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 8: Tell me?
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 23: In twenty two on the socials Spotify, you can catch
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 23: me every I'll got a little song that's stay in
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 23: some numbers right now, so keep that into it.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 8: I appreciate it might be one Records, next artist.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: No, No, definitely sound sounds tough. I love to hear
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: some of your music. Man, keep doing your thing.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 8: Man, you and he used to do that.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: That's the fact I used to do the same thing
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: you do.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 8: A lot kind of clocked it. You used to be
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 8: outside one case.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: That's right now.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 21: So I know what it's like when when you got
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 21: down hung and you're just like yo, I want to
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 21: I want to get on man, you got to do
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 21: it yourself.
• 1:35:53
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  Speaker 2: Now you've got a positive note them.
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  Speaker 8: Notice simply this and it's simple.
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  Speaker 9: Our character is what we do when we think no
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  Speaker 8: Always remember that, have a blessed day.
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  Speaker 2: Breakfast cup, Bitches you.
• 1:36:10
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