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Bruce Meyer takes over MLBPA, Mike Trout wants CF back, Jordan Westburg out longer, Kris Bryant done? · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: weekend to continue the Arizona tour. A little Cactus League action.
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  Speaker 1: As you can see, they're getting the field ready. There's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be games soon too, right AJ, when's the first
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  Speaker 1: game tomorrow?
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  Speaker 3: Tomorrow? Tomorrow's Friday? Right, Yes, Cubby Birds, Kubby Bears, White
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  Speaker 3: Sox tomorrow. I know that one is on Friday, So
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  Speaker 3: that's the start. I think. Well, heck, they gotta get ready, Todd.
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  Speaker 3: They got the WBZ starting in like two weeks.
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  Speaker 4: This should have started the day after the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 4: Let's go.
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  Speaker 1: Well, no, some of them get their Valentine's Day in
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  Speaker 1: and then they jump.
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  Speaker 2: Right after that. Right, that's part of the deal.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean, in all seriousness, Todd, if you were
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  Speaker 1: playing the WBC in the first game's Friday, and then
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  Speaker 1: the WBC starts in like two weeks. You know how
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  Speaker 1: guys say, oh, I need X amount of at bats
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  Speaker 1: to be ready for the season. Well, for most of
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  Speaker 1: these guys, they treat it like a big deal.
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  Speaker 2: They want to be seasoned ready way sooner.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think that starts with live at bats too.
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  Speaker 5: It's one of those things where you know only a
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  Speaker 5: select number of pitchers can throw that day. But at
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  Speaker 5: the same time, hey, man, if I can hop in
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  Speaker 5: and get an extra bat or see an extra four
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  Speaker 5: or five pitches, don't mind if I do. And now
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  Speaker 5: game starting, you don't want to play all in the beginning.
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  Speaker 5: Of course, you know your body is not fully ready
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  Speaker 5: for that. And I always tell everybody you can't really
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  Speaker 5: get ready for spring training. That's standing around you put
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  Speaker 5: your cleats on and stand in the rocks in your
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  Speaker 5: backyard for you know, an.
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  Speaker 4: Hour and thirty minutes. It still won't it won't help
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  Speaker 4: you out.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, I would like to get extra bats, extra
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  Speaker 5: this extra work, all that kind of stuff to make
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  Speaker 5: sure I'm in tip top shape to play this this
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  Speaker 5: big classic.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be big. We're gonna be covering it extensively.
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  Speaker 1: We'll have some postgame shows too.
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  Speaker 3: But by the way, you can't play nine innings except
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  Speaker 3: if you're Tom Kelly. If you're playing for Tom Kelly,
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  Speaker 3: who would play the catcher nine innings the first spring
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  Speaker 3: training game. Oh christee, if you were in shape or not.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it happened. It happened. Marcus Jensen, who's a
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  Speaker 3: coach of the A's here, he had it happen to him,
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  Speaker 3: and he got me. I think I made eight innings
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  Speaker 3: and he finally took me out one year. So yeah,
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  Speaker 3: he'll tests you right away, test you right away.
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  Speaker 2: Right after the little I feel like that's a little much. No,
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  Speaker 2: you were okay with it, Listen.
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  Speaker 3: I was young man. I was like, I'll play. I'll
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  Speaker 3: play forty innings if you want me to. Like twenty two,
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  Speaker 3: twenty one, two twenty three years old, the first day
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  Speaker 3: of spring shame. I got a chance to make the team,
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  Speaker 3: I'll put You need me to play a doubleheader, I'll
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  Speaker 3: do it. I'll figure it out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Tom told you to do that. When you're thirty
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  Speaker 1: five and you got a lot of dirt in your spikes,
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  Speaker 1: then what.
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  Speaker 3: You might have had a little different conversation.
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  Speaker 2: Let's chat in the office.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well we have we have some office conversation
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  Speaker 1: to get to here and then we'll talk to some
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  Speaker 1: Aze players later on.
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  Speaker 2: So let's charge.
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  Speaker 3: Let's charge it out.
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  Speaker 1: So this is three days in a row now leading
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  Speaker 1: charge of the mound. It's the replacement for Tony Clark,
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  Speaker 1: and it's somewhere to that everyone is very familiar with
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  Speaker 1: in the Players Association. So since we had our last show,
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  Speaker 1: we now know that Bruce Meyer is going to lead
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  Speaker 1: the Players Association aka the Union. This came out yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: passing first breaking that he was unanimously elected as executive
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  Speaker 1: director of the Players Association. Now it sounds like there's dissension.
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  Speaker 1: I'll let everyone know because we do this all the
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  Speaker 1: time on both sides. Owners and players when they're voting
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  Speaker 1: for things often will disagree on things, and then it's
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  Speaker 1: almost like a revote, and then everybody says, yep, we
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  Speaker 1: agree because.
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  Speaker 2: You can chat.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, remember aj they had a meeting first the
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  Speaker 1: day before, and then they're like, wait, hold up. There's
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  Speaker 1: probably a million phone calls that go down with different players,
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  Speaker 1: and then they all get on the same page and
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  Speaker 1: they say, Hey, this guy has been here for years.
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  Speaker 1: He knows the deal, he knows how to say no,
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  Speaker 1: tam lb. He's still going to be the lead negotiator,
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  Speaker 1: which actually a little bit uncommon. Usually have the leader
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  Speaker 1: and then the number two, which is Matt Nussbaum who
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  Speaker 1: enters that role.
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  Speaker 2: But Meyer has.
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  Speaker 1: Been in this role now for a while, going up
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  Speaker 1: against Manfred's number two, the deputy Commissioner, whose name is
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  Speaker 1: Stan Halem. That Meyer and Halem will still duke it
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  Speaker 1: out starting in a couple months when negotiations begin. And
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  Speaker 1: I say that in air quotes because they're really not
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  Speaker 1: going to do much until like next.
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  Speaker 3: Jeez, Scott, you're putting a loan.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just being real about how this stuff goes blah
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  Speaker 1: blah talk in ten months.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope they don't. I saw Bruce last night
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  Speaker 3: at the UH Playmakers Classic that we were at, and
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  Speaker 3: he was he was happy. He looked relieved. He looks stressed,
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  Speaker 3: but when I talked to him, he gave me a
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  Speaker 3: hug and relieve. He looks stressed, but then he looked
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  Speaker 3: relieved after we talked, and he said, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm happy that it's over with. I'm very excited to
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  Speaker 3: get this job done and now I'm ready to rock
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  Speaker 3: and roll. So I think it was the right move
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  Speaker 3: for the players to have someone that was already in
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  Speaker 3: the room. And the most important part for me is
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  Speaker 3: the owners know what they're getting in Bruce Meyer. Whether
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  Speaker 3: you love him or hate him as a player, you
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  Speaker 3: know what he's gonna do, and he's going to negotiate
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  Speaker 3: the hell out of the CBA for his side, which
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  Speaker 3: is the players. And listen, we had sky Bar song,
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  Speaker 3: We talked Terrek School arbitration case. Bruce Meyer went in
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  Speaker 3: there and was the final argument for Trek Scoogle. That's
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  Speaker 3: what you want because I know, and I heard this
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  Speaker 3: from numerous people when they saw Bruce Meyer. They were
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  Speaker 3: not happy on the owner's side when Bruce Meyer sat down,
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  Speaker 3: because he knows the CBA, he knows labor law, and
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  Speaker 3: he knows how to get things done. So I think
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  Speaker 3: this was a nice hire. Now how long will last?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. Bruce, does he have the greatest personality
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  Speaker 3: in the world. No, but you're not getting this job
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  Speaker 3: for personality. Don fear to have the greatest personality in
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  Speaker 3: the world either. So, but he was great at what
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  Speaker 3: his job is. And Bruce Meyer's job is to get
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  Speaker 3: a win on the CBA for the players and to
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  Speaker 3: keep baseball going strong the way it is.
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  Speaker 2: Todd, can I just bring up an analogy that I
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  Speaker 2: think will help this case too.
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  Speaker 1: So let's say you have an agent and some people
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  Speaker 1: are like, Eh, he's not the most fun to get
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  Speaker 1: drinks with, or he doesn't totally understand my game, whatever,
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  Speaker 1: but he always gets me the best deals are the
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  Speaker 1: best contracts. That's their job, right. So you may not
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  Speaker 1: like or love the person. I bet Bruce Meyer is
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  Speaker 1: not the funniest person in the world. I don't want
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  Speaker 1: him to be the funniest person in the world. I
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  Speaker 1: want him to be the guy that knows how to
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  Speaker 1: say no if he's trying if another entity like MLB
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  Speaker 1: is trying to bully the players, right, because they have
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  Speaker 1: a billion lawyers, the Player Association is a billion lawyers. Too,
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  Speaker 1: But you can't have a guy that's like, yeah, you
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  Speaker 1: know what, that's fine, We'll just do that.
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  Speaker 2: It's okay.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're one hundred percent accurate with that.
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  Speaker 4: He's a guy for me.
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  Speaker 5: When I was there, he went unnoticed, and I think that's,
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  Speaker 5: in all fairness, that's a really good thing. These are
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  Speaker 5: the type of people that are the quietest in the room,
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  Speaker 5: the person that's like, who's that in the corner, I
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  Speaker 5: don't recognize him, Oh that's you know, that's Bruce or whomever.
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  Speaker 5: But for a guy like this, I said hi to
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  Speaker 5: him a couple of times, never really got in depth
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  Speaker 5: in conversation. That's the guy I was always looking out
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  Speaker 5: for in a good way, you know what I mean. Like,
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  Speaker 5: this guy wants to be here and he wants to
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  Speaker 5: help out these players, and I you know, whether you
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  Speaker 5: love him or hate him, he's the guy now for
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  Speaker 5: how long again, we don't know, but he's the guy.
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  Speaker 5: I think he's going to put it in his back
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  Speaker 5: pocket and say, listen, it's my turn. However, I got
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  Speaker 5: this job right now whatever, we're going to put that away,
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  Speaker 5: put that to the side. It's my turn to show
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  Speaker 5: what I got here.
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  Speaker 4: Into you know.
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  Speaker 5: All due respect to the owners, I think they're you know,
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  Speaker 5: maybe a little worried here about who is in charge
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  Speaker 5: and how new and how different there. Bruce is going
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  Speaker 5: to go about his business to protect these players. And
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  Speaker 5: we'll see next year, you know, come twenty seven. But
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  Speaker 5: ultimately this changes the game for everybody and everyone involved.
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  Speaker 1: tell them foul Territory sent you. Yeah, and Chris Bassett
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  Speaker 1: had some really strong public comments over the last few days.
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  Speaker 1: But Aje has pointed out that there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: confusion sometimes because if you go back a couple years,
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  Speaker 1: there was a group of players that were trying to
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  Speaker 1: get a new regime to take over, and Bassett felt
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  Speaker 1: like there was a lot of confusion about who you know,
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  Speaker 1: is friends with who and who's supposed to talking to who.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, you know, some players are like, oh he
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  Speaker 1: talks to Boris, No shit, he represents a ton of players.
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  Speaker 1: Here's one of the quotes, so Andy Coska pointing this
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  Speaker 1: one out from Bassett, who's now on the Orioles MLBPA
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  Speaker 1: subcommittee member on the salary cap debate, he said, the
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  Speaker 1: CAP's not the issue. Having suppressed salaries across the league's
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  Speaker 1: owners can make more money is not the answer. But
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  Speaker 1: also he gave credit to Bruce and to Matt Nusbaum,
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  Speaker 1: who's now the number two here for having players backs
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  Speaker 1: during this investigation that was going on.
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  Speaker 4: As you know, Tony.
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  Speaker 1: Clark had the sister in law thing going that we
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  Speaker 1: just found out about, and I think it was a
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  Speaker 1: shock to many, and that was discovered by this outside
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  Speaker 1: firm that was hired because Tony Clark was being investigated
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  Speaker 1: by the FEDS. So if they end up finding something
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  Speaker 1: with Tony, who is representing the players, you bring in
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  Speaker 1: this firm, they start their own investigation, they find out
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  Speaker 1: what's going on with Tony outside of the investigation, which
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  Speaker 1: was the inappropriate relationship, the Jerry Springer situation going on
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  Speaker 1: with Tony and his sister in law. But I'll take
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  Speaker 1: the quote here from Bruce Meyer about Tony Clark because
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  Speaker 1: he worked for him, right. But he said, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to say this is a great thing. This is unforeseen.
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  Speaker 1: There have been some issues hanging over as you know,
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  Speaker 1: and in some respects it's good to get them out
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  Speaker 1: of the way sooner rather than later. It's the same
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  Speaker 1: so he said, same legal team, same player stance as
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  Speaker 1: all of that. But now you don't have the distractions
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  Speaker 1: of everything that was going on with Tony.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, everything. There was a lot happening, FBI investigations.
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  Speaker 6: Do you find this guys trying to get him out?
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  Speaker 6: And if you remember Scott, I think it was the
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  Speaker 6: CIA's group of guys that kind of banded together and
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  Speaker 6: then went, I don't know, I hate to call out
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  Speaker 6: certain people.
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  Speaker 3: And then you know, there was a little bit of.
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  Speaker 1: We said, say some names Flaherty and uh and gild.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they were part and there were other group.
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  Speaker 3: What they wanted though, if you remember, is they wanted it.
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  Speaker 3: They wanted an audit to see where they were spending
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  Speaker 3: the money, right, because I think for years the union
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  Speaker 3: has kind of gone un checked. I know, I was
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  Speaker 3: in the Union forever and I don't know what they
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  Speaker 3: spend all the money. And they took a lot of
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  Speaker 3: our money, right, Todd and and they said, oh, we're
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  Speaker 3: putting it in at a war chest and they're doing
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  Speaker 3: this for later, right. But I mean, and then you
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  Speaker 3: got it, you gotta check of it back. But it
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  Speaker 3: wasn't always the full amount because they had to spend
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  Speaker 3: some for time and for to do things and to
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  Speaker 3: you know, fly the the guys around and which is fine.
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  Speaker 3: I get that part, but no one has ever checked
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  Speaker 3: what they were doing, so that I think that I
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  Speaker 3: think if I'm correct, that's kind of where this all started,
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  Speaker 3: is they wanted an audit to see what the thing
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  Speaker 3: was spending on. The union fought it back, and then
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  Speaker 3: after a while they got those guys out because those
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  Speaker 3: guys are on the subcommittee. They kicked them out and
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  Speaker 3: now here we are with a different subcommittee, and they
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  Speaker 3: improved Bruce Meyer. So it's a lot of and it's
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  Speaker 3: too much to get way too deep into the weeds,
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  Speaker 3: but they I just feel like they chose the right guy.
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  Speaker 3: And I think this will unify the players because everywhere
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  Speaker 3: you look, oh there's blood in the water. There's blood
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  Speaker 3: in the water. Tony's gone, well, guess what, you just
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  Speaker 3: brought a bulldog in and Bruce Meyer to clean up
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  Speaker 3: that blood.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's not held back with any of the
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  Speaker 1: actions now, Todd, Sorry, he's not helping.
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  Speaker 5: No, that's what I was gonna say. It's his game now,
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  Speaker 5: you know what I mean. He can step on toes now,
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  Speaker 5: he can he can say some things that maybe he's
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  Speaker 5: been wanting to say, you know, to a couple of
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  Speaker 5: guys on the other side point some fingers, so without
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  Speaker 5: you know, being two over the top.
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  Speaker 4: So it's falls in your court now, so we'll know.
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  Speaker 3: Todd, he can go over the He can go over
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  Speaker 3: the top if he wants. At this point, he can
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  Speaker 3: do it because he's in charge now, and I think
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  Speaker 3: he's in I think he was named interim, right, so listen,
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  Speaker 3: he's got however long this negotiating takes to prove that
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  Speaker 3: this is his job, and this is I'm assuming for
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  Speaker 3: a labor lawyer, this has got to be a top job.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what he's gonna make or what they make,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm sure it's not chump change, right, and if
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  Speaker 3: you probably okay, if you're passionate, Todd, if you're passionate
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  Speaker 3: about this, sure go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: So he was making about one and a half mil
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  Speaker 1: and Tony Clark was making about three and change. Now
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  Speaker 1: in comparison, Rob Manford makes like twenty mil and many
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  Speaker 1: of his people around him make tons of money. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, some people still look at that. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of money, right, So.
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  Speaker 4: We don't know. I had no clue, nobody.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, those mbers happen to be filed it's it's labor law.
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  Speaker 5: You know, all right, Yeah, but I'm just saying if
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  Speaker 5: you ask all the players, I wouldn't I would say
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  Speaker 5: fifty percent at least don't know, which is fine. I'm
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  Speaker 5: just saying, and I think AJ brought it up a
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  Speaker 5: little bit. There was a lot of stuff, you know,
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  Speaker 5: players that we didn't know about, which at the at
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  Speaker 5: the time.
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  Speaker 4: It's like whatever, they're doing their job, good stuff.
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  Speaker 5: But there's a lot there's a lot of little things
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  Speaker 5: where that would go unnoticed and maybe maybe something different
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  Speaker 5: here now for the players that they'll know more.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, that was it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So those are those are the numbers. That's as
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  Speaker 1: much as we can tell you about what goes on.
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  Speaker 3: As much as listen. Yeah, but Scott, the money's nice, right,
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  Speaker 3: But if you're Bruce Meyer and you want to keep
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: that job and you want to move up to the
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: Tony Clark salary, you go prove it. You have twelve
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: months a year whatever it is till just prove it.
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: Prove it you're behind the players, Prove that you can
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: get a good deal done, because once you do that,
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: then I'm not saying you get four years off after
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: five years or three years or whatever the next CBA is.
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: But then you get time to kind of reload, relax,
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: get all your people in place that you want in
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: place for the next war, which comes, you know, every three,
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: four or five years. It's usually four years they signed
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: these deals for, so it's about every four years when
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: they have these. So if you get a good one
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: and the players are behind you, guess what, You can
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: keep this job for a long time. Ask don for
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: your Ask Marvin Miller, right, the guys that ever, the
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: main people that everyone knows you can keep this job
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: for a long time. And listen, three and a half
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: million foul Territs are ain't even paying todd three and
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: a half million.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: Let me you don't know that.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you this though, because people look at
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: player money, right and they think, oh, that's crazy. But
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: then you're like, hey, they're splitting a pot. Otherwise it's
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: going to you know, an owner who just runs a
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: team and makes plenty of money off that team too,
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: So they're splitting a massive pot. Just to give you perspective,
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: I did the math quickly because actually read an article
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: just randomly last night.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: Couldn't sleep.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal top rate right now that's going for
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: the top end lawyers, you know, because.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: They always keep uping it.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: Do you know if it's at now per hour if
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: you get in the tippy top on the competition, thirty
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: five hundred dollars an hour, So if you lay that
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: out over the course of a year, do you know
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: how much money that is salary wise? Seven million dollars.
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: I got.
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: I got two cousins that just got finished there. So
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: I'm like, you know what smart move law schools.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's good living.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: If you're at the top of the class, you can
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: make Obviously there's plenty of lawyers that make one hundred grand.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: But I'm saying the tippy top are charging thirty five
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: hundred to the Wall Street Journal article from yesterday.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: I saw it. Plus don't know that, Scott. Depending on
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: what kind of article or sorry, what kind of lawyer
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: you are. Let's say you're a class action you know,
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: Morgan and Morgan, whatever you want to call it, you
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: can make way more money because if you hit the side.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: I know a friend who is one of those guys,
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: and they hit one of those big ones and they
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: are stupid, crazy rich because they you know, they hit
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: these big ones. That are tobacco asbestos. Right, what was
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: the Julia Roberts movie that one time went the water
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: thing in the South? Aaron Brokovitch. Aaron Brockovich, I mean
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: her lawyers made a killing. So if you lawyers, if
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: you like reading, then it's a great profession. If you
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: like arguing, then you become a defense attorney or a prosecutor.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: But there's a lot of behind the scenes stuff that
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: you can do. That is, you can make a lot
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: of money. How come, by the way, but how come
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: nobody puts a salary cap or wants a salary cap
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: on lawyers?
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: Scott, Well, there's not a salary cap on a free
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: market in our world.
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: If you yeah, you're allowed to make more.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Yes, this is a free market country and baseball is Americana,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: And that's why we really should be looking at the
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: reverse end of if you can't spend one penny in
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: the offseason and no offense. But like yesterday, we got
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: a lot of backlash. We're talking to the guardians. They
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: were great with us, but like when they say we
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: basically couldn't do anything in the off season, fans are like,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: if you can't do anything, are you the right person
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: to be owning the team. I'm talking about the front office.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: But if you can't spend a dime, maybe you need
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: to re look at how you're running your business. So
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: that's real talk on what's going on here. So hopefully
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: this was informative for everyone. And I will say, to
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: sum it up from a fan perspective, I think that's
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: important because most of the people watching and listening are
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: baseball fans. They don't work within the industry. They go,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: how does this affect me? It affects you just about zero.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: It's the same exact people that would be putting together
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: the case to have conversations with the league, like the
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: same exact to a tee. Tony Clark is not the
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: lawyer in this conversation. He wasn't the one doing the negotiating,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: so almost nothing changes. And yes, if anything, the guy
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: who was doing the lead negotiating now will have more say.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: So does it affect how the next CBA works yet?
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Probably a little bit.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Does it affect the timing if we'll miss games or not?
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: Not?
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Really, it's gonna be the same stance from this team
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: and from the players. All right, any questions or anything
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: we missed there if you watch this afterward, drop comments.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: I know we post this separately on YouTube, and then
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: I'll go back and forth with fans and explain to
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: them how I truly don't care who gets what out
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: of all of this. I just want games to be
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: played and teams to give a crap. Mike Trout leads
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: off hot corner today he is going back to center
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: field for the Angels. Trout has battled injuries for years,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: and you've got first year manager Kurt Suzuki in there.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Trout has a conversation with him in the org and
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: he's like, I've actually feel better in center field. Sounds
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: like he feels as if there's less wear and tear there.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: And also, this had been discussed for the past couple
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: of years. If he's just eching all the time, he's
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: going to take too many swings. He thinks he'll stay
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: healthiest in center field. We posted about it, and actually
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: I'll show you one reply from Mike Cameron, who manned
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: center fields for a long time in this sport, and
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: he said ego is crazy man.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Of course he got some pushback for that. I understood
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: what he was saying, right.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: It's like Todd father you're the best in the world
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: for a long period of time, and you feel like
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: you still got it and you can handle it out there,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: and you desperately want to stay on the field, you know, Troudy.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to take the organizational side here and
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: just the fan side of watching Mike for years battle
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: through injuries. I know he's taking a lot of swings.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: If he's a DH, to take less swings, you got
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: a DH. He's got years left on this deal and
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: he's not grading out well in the outfield anymore.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: So what do you do here?
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: If you're the Angels and you've got a manager on
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: a one year contract who doesn't want to say no
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: to anybody, let alone the best player.
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: Maybe it goes to show you where Mike Trout is
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: right now. Maybe he feels really really good. Maybe it's
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: a thing where he feels like, all of a sudden,
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: if I go in this position and I'm the DH
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: and I'm not playing outfield anymore, it's kind of fizzling
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: my way out of there. I don't mind it. I
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: like always come out. I think it shows confidence. I
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: think it shows his ability of where he's at and
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: his body right now. I don't have all the answers
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: to why he wants to play center field, but I
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: feel like, if that's it and that's what he wants
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: to do, man let him do it. I feel like
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: he wants to show everybody that he can play, you know,
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: one hundred and forty five hundred and fifty games a
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: year and be the guy of old and you know, listen,
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: I don't know how many years he has left in
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: his contract, but it's got it's coming.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: Oh he has a lot, Yeah, he has a lot. Yeah.
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: I mean, so listen, I'm not worried. I'm not worried
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: about it. I'm not worried about it at all. I
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: want the guy to go out there and play center field.
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: He's one of the most electric players there is when
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: he's healthy, and I don't see that as a bad choice.
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: But then all he gets hurt, it's going to come
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: back home. Anybody has a chance to get hurt in
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: this game. I think it just goes to show where
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: he is and where he's at in his program and
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: how confident he is of being healthy.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Here's I agree with you, Todd on that part. But
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: here's here's the one thing I'll say to that though
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: you cover so much more ground in center field. And yes,
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: I understand he's more comfortable out there and he's done it,
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: but you have to cover so much more ground. And
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: what has Mike Trout had most A lot of his
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: issues with right calves and hamstrings and stuff like that.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: So if you can back right, you have to lessen that.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: If you're Mike Trout at this age, and I kind
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: of agree with it. You said, if you have to
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: DH some don't take a million swings. Take find a routine,
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: or you take five to ten swings in between you
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: don't take you don't have to take one hundred swings in
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: between the bats. And I mean, we just want to
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: see Mike Trout on the field. And if it's center field,
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: that gives them the best chance. If it's left field,
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: if it's right field, if it's shortstop, if it's first base,
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: if it's DH, whatever it is, baseball is better when
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: Mike Shout's on the field. So if he thinks it can,
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: he can do it. We'll see. Well, we just want
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Mike Trout on the field, so let's just do whatever
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: helps him stay on the field the most.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, what helps him stay on the field.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: The most is that that he mostly DHD last year.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: He did twenty.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Two games in right field and one hundred and six
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: as the DH, and he actually appeared in one hundred
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: thirty games last year. It was the most games that
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: he's appeared in since twenty Nope, we're not even in
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: the twenties since twenty nineteen, okay, And there's a lot
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: of like, you know, twenty twenty one, thirty six games,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, one hundred nineteen, twenty three, eighty two games,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: twenty four to twenty nine games, one hundred thirty games
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: last year. He might not have been totally pleased with
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: his bat, but he still was one hundred and twenty
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: one ops plus. That's a very valuable bat within an
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: organization that always needs offense.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Right, So I don't know if.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: I need to activate roleplay here, but like, if I'm
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: the organization, then I'm smart about it. I'm like, dude, enough,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: you're dhing because we haven't to do twenty thirty.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: I don't give if that's what so like, yes, but
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: they can't mistake that was an awful movement.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: And if only there was a show that absolutely torched
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: that move let me know if you find it.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, is this one?
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna look.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Okay, there's a billion clips from it.
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: Let me ask you this question with what Mike Cameron said,
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: ego was crazy. Man, you could take that a couple
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: of different ways.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Now, yeah, so fans thought that he meant like, oh,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Trout is an ego.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: We all know Trout.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: He's humble, he's nice, he is he is a great personality.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: To me, I took it as Cameron saying, Hey, you
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: want to be the guy forever, right. Nick Castianos just
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: moved on from a team. And what was part of
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: what sparked that the team saying, hey, dude, you're not
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: grading out well defensively anymore, and so we don't want
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: you out in the outfield. We want to mix it up.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: We're going to replace you in a game. And he
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: got pissed. So to me, there's this confidence level here.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: I'll bring up the end now, top father. A player
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: gets hurt, or even someone that's not a pro athlete
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: gets hurt, they think they can return in five minutes,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: and you want to return in five minutes.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: But sometimes you got to take your time.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: So for this one, for me, it's like, hey, centerfield's
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: not the spot for you anymore.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: You don't grade well there, and we got to keep
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: you on the field.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: You're getting paid a ton of money through twenty thirty,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: so DH worked. And if you feel like you're taking,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: like Aj said, you take it too many swings, you're
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: a human being.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Take less swings. I don't feel like this is complicated.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: But the Angels, I think, feel like they're in a
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: tough spot because they have a manager on a one
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: year deal. If the manager's on a three year deal,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: he's he's almost taken his deal through the end of
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Trat's deal, and he's like, listen, bro, I want to
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: get along with you, but I want to win games,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: and I'm going to put a better outfield out there. Really,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: I am going to put some blame on perrimanation here
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: because I've been I've been trusting his process for years
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: and I'm starting to turn there Todd Father, because I
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: thought the Solaier move was a disaster and it almost
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: put them in a corner where they had to put
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Trout in the outfield because Solaire's not going to play
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: the outfield much or shouldn't. Okay, what he should be
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: doing is like this offseason, I'd be going after Harrison Bater,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: so Trout can't even look at center field because you know,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Bader is one of the best in the biz out there,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: so I'm spending money on that so that I don't
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: have this problem, because it would be hard for Trout
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: to sit down with Kurtzuzuki and be like, I should
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: play center field. But they're looking right now, like who's
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: playing centerfield?
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: Okay, I'll play it, Yeah, yeah, who else are they're
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: going to put out there?
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Dude's well. Adella last year was the guy who played
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: center fields. He wasn't bad, was he? I don't know
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: the number.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: No, I'd rather have him, but he doesn't grade well
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: as far as I remember either. I mean, he made
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: plenty of mistakes last year, but I would rather have
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: him out there fresh legs than than Trout, who's had
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: trouble staying on the field.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: I mean Josh Slow's there now, but I think he's
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: better in a corner.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: I don't know it's in.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Listening, but whatever. In as far as Cammi's comments my Cameron,
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: I think, yes, there comes a point in everyone's career.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: Todd you went through. I went through it where you
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: have to look yourself in the mirror and say, I
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: can't do what I could do at twenty five years old.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: I'm thirty plus. Now I need to take less swings. Hey,
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: maybe I need to catch less or I need to
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: play the field less.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: It kind of happens to everybody. Heck, even Tom Brady
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: had to freaking succumb to father time at a certain point,
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: and he thought he'd played for till he was seventy
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: because he didn't need tomatoes. Right, So you have to
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: look yourself in the mirror and say, man, I can't
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: do this every day in centerfield. If it's best for
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: me to stay on the field, and listen, Mike wants
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: to do it. They're gonna let Mike do it, whether
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: his manager's on a one year deal, a five year deal, whatever,
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: because he's still might trout. But whatever Mike helps you
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: get on the field, please do that because I want
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: to see you play more.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: Agree.
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: So inconclusion, yeah, it's still his team at the end
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: of the day, So I mean, listen.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: But like, okay, so let's say there is somebody that's
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: that's thinking they're going to be there beyond this year,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: because this is part of the problem, and this is
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: where there's always an ownership issue.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: People are on like year to year situations basically there,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: so it puts you in a tougher spot to be
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: able to back something up when Trout's going to be
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: there longer than you. Let's say I'm Kurt Zuzuki and
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: I'm on a longer term deal, so I feel more
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: stable in my position and Todd Father we have an
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: offseason chat. Hey, Trouty, you played one hundred and thirty
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: games last year, Bro, that was way more than you'd
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: played previously, and we want you to stay on the field.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: You can be our best bat. Your defense has been
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: great in the past. You're in your mid thirties and
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: it's not great and as well anymore. And I can't
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: see you, but I feel like you're probably doing that
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: thing where you kind of roll your eyes and you
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: rotate your finger, like, yeah, keep going, Kurt, but I
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: need you to mostly DH and then play a little
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: bit of corner outfields a skipper.
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: I haven't got a grade since high school. I'm not
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: worried about grades. I'm worried about getting on the field
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: and helping this team. I gotta go because I got
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: another workout to tend to. We'll talk and spring.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Okay, great, so I know you hung up, but I'll
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: have you hitting third dhing on opening Day.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Awesome. Thanks, But I mean to me aj like it's
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: hurting the team. It is. I'm sorry.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Like his percentage chance of getting hurt is much higher
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: in centerfield. We all know that that's a fact.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: But everybody has a percentage chance of getting hurt. Scott.
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: That's where I'm not trying to argue with you. I'm
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: just telling, yeah, he's been hurt a lot more. But
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: if he's healthy and he's not rehabbing or getting massaged
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: out after every game and ice and this and that,
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: if he's if he's there, which we don't know hopefully
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: he is, then I'm not worried about him.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Man, Let him go play DH and some corner outfield
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: he doesn't want to.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Centerfield is a demanding position.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: It's it's one of the most demanding positions, and you
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: need you need someone out there that's that's a stud.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: At the position.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: He's still a stud at that episode.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Stud Bat, stud Bat.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: I'm taking a hard stance on this one, because this
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: is a team that needs to win every game they can.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: And I just feel like we always talk about these
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: stories that wouldn't be a thing with another team. Another
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: team would have had a center fielder in there that
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: they feel really good about, and then it would put
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Trott in a position where he couldn't even ask for centerfield.
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: I want to go back. You don't think he's a
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: good center fielder when he's healthy.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Not anymore? No, not above average, not anymore.
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: All right, Well we'll disagree on that one too.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Perfect storm right, He's not an above average center fielder. He's
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: been injured a lot. He actually stayed on the field
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: as a DH. I love the guy, I love the player.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: I want him playing as many games as possible every time.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: This happens almost every year besides last year. Obviously you
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: didn't miss as much time. When he goes down, you
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: just feel like someone popped a balloon and you're like,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: all right, and Traut got hurt and the Angels are toast.
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: You got to put money on yourself and if you
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: if you're confident enough and you feel that way, I
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: want to play. I want to play center field, like
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: go ahead, go ahead, you think Angels are winning the
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: World Series?
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: No, but I think I think if the Angels want
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: to shock the world and win eighty two games or
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: whatever the heck, their goal is, you need a full
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: fledged Trout, hey, j I mean if you were the manager,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: would you be okay with this? Would you be like, yeah,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: go for it, knowing that there is a higher percentage
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: chance he's gonna get hurt and it's going to screw
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: your team over.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: Scott, I'm gonna ask you this. Do you remember the
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: time that Bryce Harper got bench for not running a
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: ball out by Matt Williams? He was not on a
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: one year contract and who got fired from the Nationals.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: But wait, what does that have to do with it?
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: Not Bryce Harper? You said, if I'm the manager on
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: the long term deal, I'm telling him he ain't playing
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: center field, Dude, Matt Williams tried to out Bryce Harper.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: Guess who was not in Washington very long after that?
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: Not Bryce Harper. Right, Mike Trout is the icon of
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: the Angels franchise for a long time. Now, Mike Trout
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: wants to play center field, you give him a shot.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: If it doesn't work out after a month, you say, Mike,
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: you're banged up. Here's the metrics. Right you pull out
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: the I old iPad and you say, Mike, here's the metrics.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: The defensive run saves ain't great. Now we're gonna try
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: someone else. And then you go to whatever his DRSS
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: were last year in right field and you say, Mike,
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: you were better in right field last year, or you're
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: gonna be better in left field. We need you to
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: play there. And then if Mike says no, then you
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: have another conversation. But for right now, you give him
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: the shot in spring training, You give him a month
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: or whatever it takes, and if it's not working out,
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: then you go to him. But right now, he's Mike
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: Trout and he's got he's earned that right to try.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's fine. I mean, I see what you guys
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: are saying. I just disagree. I would have had the
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: combo now because I already had the years.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: I guarantee you, I guarantee you. They've already had this conversation.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: Why do you think he played right field last year?
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: Because they had this conversation. Why do you think he
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: dh last year? They had this conversation. Mike Trout went
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: in the off season, built a new golf course, worked
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: out probably the best shape of his life. Right here,
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: he is, I want to play center field. You give
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: him the shot. The Angels aren't winning the World Series
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: more than likely, right right, American League West, Mariners, Astros, Rangers,
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: Athletics are all probably better than the Angels. Correct. Correct,
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: Give him a shot.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, I don't think it's gonna go well, but I
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: hear you it's not really gonna matter. That's actually a
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: good way over there, Non negative, Nancy. I'm only saying
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: it because he's missed so much time. When you guys
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: miss that much time and he's thirty four years old,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: you don't put him in center field.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: I get it. I get it.
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: But if he's telling me as a manager, hey skip,
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: I work this offseason.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: I feel good.
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: I'm I'm ready to get back in the center field.
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: I want to prove to everybody I have no fluke.
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna help this team win. I'm gonna be a leader.
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: And guess what, you're first team manager. What will you
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: say to that? You're like, you know what? Gave me goosebumps?
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: Right there, let's go. The Mike Trout of old is
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: coming back and guess what, like AJ just said, Honestly,
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: if he's not getting the balls, if all of a sudden,
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: you know, he made an error here or there, or
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: he's like man and you know what, I need a
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: break by DH mean put me there.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, then do it.
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: But if he looks if he looks good, and you
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: get involved, which I still disagree with you. I still
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: think he's above average center fielder, We'll see what happens there.
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: But spring training's gonna tell a lot. Spring training's gonna
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: tell a whole heck of a lot because he's gonna
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: do with four or five innings, take a day off,
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: maybe two, another four or five, you know, and it's
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: gonna ramp up a little bit.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: That's fair, right.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: You let him run around in spring training and see
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: what it looks like and see how he feels.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Okay, next up. Injury not good.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: We've talked about it a little bit, but it sounds
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: more serious than initially anticipated. And we don't even know
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: as of now, unless there's something that's come out in
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: the last like thirty to sixty minutes. Jordan Westburg is
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: hurt for the Orioles and he is a very valuable
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: piece of the puzzle Jacob Calvin Meyer with the tweet
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: from this morning to help explain what's going on there.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Manager Craig Albernaz, when asked if Westburg's injury to whatever
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: body parts, since they won't say, we don't know, it
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: could be oblique, elbow is worse than originally feared. Quote,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: just want to make sure that we're doing our diligence
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: and make sure Jordan isn't the best chance to play
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: this year. And then Calvin Meyer put at the bottom
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: this year question mark. So aj when we initially learned
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: about the oblique because he had some imaging done also
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: on his elbow. This is from the Baltimore Banner saying
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: that he underwent imaging on the elbow. Prognosis is to
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: be determined. Currently unable to participate at camp. So we
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: initially heard about the oblique and then you know, it
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, they'll slow play it, but he should
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: be ready for spring training. So I'm gonna like give
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: the educated guest that it's more elbow related at this point,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: that's the bigger concern, and then we'll see what happens here.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: But this would be a huge blow. They've got some
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: depth there in the infield. But Westburg is an all
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: star caliber player.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's one of the leaders on this team. If
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: you talk to the Orioles, I'll tell you that Jordan
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: Osburg is a big leader for him. Orhere'd the elbow
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: come from? We were all talking oblique, like Todd, what happened?
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: He was doing some crunches he heard an elbow, like
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: what happened? Because remember the whole talk was early on,
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: like you said, Scott Oblik oblk oblique and now and
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: the thing that's weird is when you said when Craig
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: Alberna said the year, like, is he gonna miss the
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: whole year? A bleak? Is you know, it could be
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: a month or two, but elbow, I guess could be
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: a year if you get the old Thomas Jonas.
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: Tomas Jean. Yeah, this is this is different. This is
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: different than what we've expected, and specifically for me, when
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: you hear about an injury you don't hear much about
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: and then it finally comes out what it was, not
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: the exact prognosis, then you're like, hmm, okay, why were
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: they trying to hide this a little bit more? I've
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: had tons of o bleaks I'm sure AJ has. They're
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: painting the in the side, literally, but eventually they do
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: go away after about you know, twenty five thirty days.
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: Elbow knock on wood man, it's scary, so there could
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: be a whole bunch of things in there, you know,
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: hoping it's maybe a little tenlbow or something. So he
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: takes a couple of weeks off and he's fine. But
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: position player with an elbow, that kind of scary it is.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: And hey, AJ, they kept Mountcastle. I mean, Ken has
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: talked about how he might be on the trade block,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: but Kobe Mayo is still there, so you're able to
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: mix the match a little bit and fill the spot
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: with someone who could be a regular big leaguer, you know,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: a full time player.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Those guys got to prove something good position I know, yeah,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: you guys.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: You know Mountcastle has had some good years, he's had
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: some injuries. To Kobe Mayo hasn't proven anything. I'm sorry.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's been a prospect forever and he every
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: time he comes up he doesn't hit, which is what's
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: supposed to be his tool. So maybe this SERI he
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: figures it out. But Jordan Westberg, you know this when
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: he's in there, he's going to give you a good
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: at bat and he's going to hit you some power.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: He's a good defender, and like I said earlier, if
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: you talk to guys in the oriols, they'll say Jordan
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: Westberg is a leader in that room and that's important.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a stud.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: Hopefully it's not too bad for him, but it sounds
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: like Westbrook and Holiday will not start the season for Baltimore,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: a team that's looking to rebound from what was a
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: disaster year.
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: Results come to Blue Jays first, first two months, watch out,
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: they might take us commandingly.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Well, that actually perfectly transitions us to the New York
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Yankees and Ryan McMahon. McMahon might get some reps at
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: shortstop in spring. Todd Father, do you like this? I mean,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: he's a supreme defender over at third. How about a
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: little shortstop time to see if he can be a
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: backup option if needed. According to manager Aaron Boone, I
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: mean those Yankees are going to be chasing the Blue Jays,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: you would think all year battling it out with them.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: What do you think about McMahon getting some time over
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: there at shortstop? Since you know you're not gonna have
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Vulpi to start the year and his caballero and everyday shortstop.
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's okay, I mean nothing that's going to be
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: like whoa man, that's a really good idea. I like
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: him over at third base and anything I is a
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: versatile enough to play shortstop most likely. Most likely there
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: are two different positions, a lot more ground to cover
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: at shortstop, a lot more stuff. You gotta worry about,
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: double plays, you know, tagging guys out, being the leader
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: a little bit more there too, as well.
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: Positioning.
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: It's a different ballgame and the field looks that much
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: bigger when you go to shortstop. So I do like
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: I'm a third He'll be the third baseman, but you
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: have to have a backup. Maybe there's something else they
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: got going on in case they got to move him
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: over and put somebody else there at third base. I
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: know Rosario is an option. There's all different types of
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: players you can put there, but the more natural position
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: is third base.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Scot or tug. Do you know the hardest position to
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: find in a lot of times for a baseball team
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: is do you know you guys know what that is?
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: A backup utility player that can play shortstop in case
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: your shortstop goes down, that guy is super valuable if
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: you can find a utility guy that can play shortstop
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: when if your shortstop goes down for a week or
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: two weeks or a month, that guy is There's you
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: can't put a value on that guy for a team
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: to know that that guy is there, because the great
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: shortstop is his second for me only to the great
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: catcher as far as importance on a team, because they
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: command the infield, they command everything, and and it's tough.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: Now can a man do it, probably, but can he
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: do it for a long period of time, we don't know.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: But according to what Scott said, if if Scott said
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: like Scott said about Mike Trout, I'm not telling him.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: I'm just telling him he can't do it. So Scott,
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: he can't play it because you said it.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: They're saying Ryan McMahon can't play shortstop.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because he you know, he's willing to and they're
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: gonna give him a shot, Scott. So since Mike Trout
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: can't do it, McMahon can't do it because you said
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: it in role play with your phone.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: The phone, that's a troll comment, they said, totally. Situation
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: is a little different.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Right Man is a nice third, but he's no Mike
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Trout and that's what's causing this problem. You should be
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: able to, as a manager put your chest pieces in
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: the best position to win you games.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Period.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Every player says the same thing, I want to win
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: the most games possible. Cool, let me tell you how
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: to win the most games possible.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: We know it and it's you playing.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: Every player games, hold on, hold on. Every player says
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: that every Every.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Player publicly says that some of them might be full
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: of shit, but every player publicly does every player not
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: say my number one, number one goal this year, Sam Kennedy,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: as possible, did Sam Kennedy.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: Say that Raffi Devers did that when he would pick
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: up the glove, Remember he would pick he would pick
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: up the glove. We needed to play first. He wouldn't
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: pick up the glove.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: That was Tom Warner. That's a different Red Sox Detective.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Sam Kennedy talked about how he basically kind of dodged
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: the question about Alex Bregman and the no trade clause,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: which is weird and I cannot wait to talk to
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Bregman at some point and just be like, hey, dude,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: I think we should just lay it out once and
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: for all. We're the reds going to give you no
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: trade cause guarantee you. He's going to say no, and
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: then I don't know what the Red Sox response to that.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Is, But okay, sorry, I got Mountain around the al East.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: I got, I got my Boston executives with strange quotes, confused,
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: I apologize.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: No, You're good.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: They were all strong candidates for Dork of the Week
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: this This was probably in our history of Fair Territory,
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: one of the most rigorous battles. And I actually don't
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: even know which one got chosen because there was probably
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: five or six Dork of the Week candidates this week
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: for Kennon Alana and I didn't get to watch the
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: end of the episode because we have our show, so
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: I will be listening to that on Apple Podcasts on
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: my car ride home after this show.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: But let's get to that's what he said.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what he said.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: That's what he said, that's what he said. That's what
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: he said.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: All right, So let's spin forward the Chris Bryant conversation.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: He's on the sixty day il. He has barely played
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: since being a member of the Rockies. He is at camp,
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: and he did speak, so let's listen to what he
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: said and then we'll talk about it.
• 43:05
  Speaker 7: But yeah, it's difficult.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: It's not.
• 43:09
  Speaker 7: Easy waking up in pain every day. So yeah, so
• 43:15
  Speaker 7: now we're here, and I think just trying to determine
• 43:21
  Speaker 7: next steps while I'm here and with the training staff
• 43:24
  Speaker 7: and the doctors.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: So I mean, to me, when I hear that Todd father,
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: I don't feel like he's ever gonna play again.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's in significant back pain. He's got a.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: Degenerative whatever it's called chronic back situation. You know, my
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: questions are is he going to ever play again? Nobody knows,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: you know, except for maybe doctors and him. And then also,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: is there nothing that can be done? You're like where
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: we're at with medicine. You know, if somebody's waking up
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: in massive amounts of pain and they're in their early thirties,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: that's a problem for anybody.
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And not to be an example, but that happened
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: to me at the end of my career. Just anytime
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: I woke up in the middle of the night or
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: in that morning, it took me a good.
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: Two three hours sometimes four hours just to be able
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: to walk upright.
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: And it's you know, I don't know what a pain
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: he's experiencing, the general dist disease and the lumbar I mean, nothing,
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: nothing compares to you. Your back is, you know, right
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: in the middle there, and I just I feel for
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: the guy man, and you know, for him to come
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: out and say that, I hope there's something they can do.
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: I'm not going to count him out just yet, but
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: this could be a whole year long process. I mean
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: there's a lot they can do. Surgery, I don't know,
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: you know, can they give them, you know, a couple
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: of needles here to maintain it? We have no clue,
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: but you can see it on his face and the
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: way he's talking. You feel for the guy man because
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: he is He's a great dude. He's a great player
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: and love playing against him.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: It's sad. It's just sad, that's it. It's just sad
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: that he didn't beget to become what everyone thought he
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: would become when he first came up with the Cubs
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, that that great
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: run the Cubs had there.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: So.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: Remember he was the original guy for the player manipulation
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: of service time. And remember they had the billboard for
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: I think it was Adidas that had the big billboard
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: let's get Chris Bryan here whatever, right outside Wrigley. It
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: was a shame. It's a shame because everyone thought he
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: was on a Hall of Fame track. You know, I
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: think you were a Rooie of the Year in MVP.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: They won a World Series in Chicago. Then he gets
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: traded it didn't work out there. Then he signs this
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: huge deal with the Rockies and he hasn't been able
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: to play, and if he never plays again, the amount
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: of games that he's gonna miss. I mean, you could
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: put this contract is one of the worst contracts of
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: all time. Whoever you want to Strasburg, Rendel, whatever, whoever,
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: Chris Davis, whoever you want to throw out there, is
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: the worst contracts of all time. This Chris Bryan won
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: is definitely gonna be on the list if he doesn't
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: play again. And it's in the biggest part of what
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: people understand is it's sad. It's just sad. This guy's
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: played baseball's entire life. Now it's going to be taken
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: away from something that is kind of out of his control.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: It's just sad. It's just sad for Chris and his family.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: And I know he made a lot of money, but
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: it's still sad.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: And if you want to learn more about the injury,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: we have an injury Territory show. Will Carol injury Expert
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: covers it. And just to give you a sneak peek,
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, he said players do not come back from this,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: so he's not thinking that he's going to play again.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: And that would be one hundred and seventy games played
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: with the Rockies out of a possible one thy one
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: thirty four, so fifteen percent of games in that seven
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: year contract.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: And yeah, this is not.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: Like a player going out there under performing because when
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: he played the first year of Colorado, I think he
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: got hurt at some point during that season, but he
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: was hitting pretty well.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: I'm looking real quick.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: I think he had like one twenty eight ohps plus,
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: which is pretty close to a lot of the numbers
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: he was putting up before that. But then once once
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: he went down, I mean, he just has not been
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: able to pick it back up. So it sounds like
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: something chronic that could knock him out for the rest
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: of his career, got a few extra minutes for slap.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: So I got two things.
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: Prepped for you.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Actually, first we're going to start with Sean Manaia, a
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: former athletic spending a little time in a college bullpen
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: in casual clothing spotted. You know, he pitched for what
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Indiana State and he's at their game going up against Miami.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: So he was down in Coral Gables and he hung
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: out in the bullpen with the guys. To me, that's
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: pretty cool.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: You got a big league accomplished pitcher in there who
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: used to pitch, you know, out of school. That's not
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: pumping out big leaguers left and right. If he calls
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: and he's like, hey, I can stop by, I'd be like, cool,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: you can do whatever you want. You want to sit
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: in the dugout in the Freedom bullpen for a game.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: And Sean is also one of the nicest guys in
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: the sport too. He went like the Nice Guy Award
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: I think last year in New York when he was
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: with the Mets. So you know, pop father pretty cool, right.
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that is pretty cool. And you know he didn't
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: step on toes either.
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: He didn't go in the dugout you know, some people
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: are probably like, oh, you should have did this and
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: that went to the outfield. You know, shoot the shit
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: with a couple of guys, maybe go over a couple
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: different placements of the ball in your hand, just talk shop.
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: And they were in the game there until late, you know,
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: against the top twenty five Miami team. So that's got
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: to be really exciting. The bullpen coach looked like he
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: was having a good time there. Somebody was warming up.
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: Looked like he just came off the street and was just, hey, man,
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: do you mind if I sit next to you. He's
• 48:42
  Speaker 5: that type of dude. He's a chill and to come
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: back to where he used to play and you know,
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: talk a little shop about pitching.
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, everybody should have been around him right there.
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: It was so cool.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: It was awesome. It was awesome. He went back. His
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: alma mater was down there. He went back, and of
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: course he wants in the bullpen talk to the guys.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: Why not. I mean, he's in spring training right there
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: in Port Saint Lucy drove down to Miami, and what
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: a thrill for those kids, What a throw for those
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: kids that are in college in Indiana State to have
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: shanm and I. I sit next to him and talk
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: to him, and I thought it was awesome. As someone
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: that has a kid playing in college, if there was
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: somebody that came down and talked to him and helped
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: him a little bit, if not only in baseball, on
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: life and from what I know of Sean ma and I,
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: he seems like a great guy. So if you can
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: get someone like that to come in and speak to
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: your children and they help them, I'm all for it.
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: Yep, no doubt.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: All right, let's get to one little move that went down.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Minor league signing, but a guy who could crack the
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: big league team, Mitch Garber agreeing with the Mariners on
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: a minor league contract. He's thirty five years old, he
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: spent the last two years with the Mariners. He's going
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: to compete for the backup catcher job to Cal Raley.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: So they also have Andrew Kisner on that roster right now.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: So AJ, if you're in Kisner spot, are you pay
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: when you see something like this or is it pretty
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: standard where someone comes into camp and you see what happens.
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: It's pretty standard. Also, remember Garb didn't catch a whole
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: lot of games, right He went a while. Remember, for
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: a while, they're like, he can't catch at all. He
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: didn't catch for a long time when he signed that
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: deal with the Mariners originally, and then finally they're like, well,
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: we got to really catch him at some point. I
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: think he went like a year and a half or
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: someone without catching. And remember they eased him in. They
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: ran it like a spring training game. He caught like
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: five innings and cal Rawley came in and caught the
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: rest of the game, so he wasn't catching a whole lot.
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: If your kissner, you're like, okay, well it's another battle.
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: We'll see what happens. But it's the big leagues. You
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: got to compete and you got to produce if you
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: want to keep your job.
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: Competition is healthy, it's healthy. You know, sign him in
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: what they said as a minor league deal too as well. Yeah,
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: there's competition, but you got to understand your worth and
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: you know what you were brought up to be. Play
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: your game and everything will take care of itself.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: One more minor league signing, because we didn't get to
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: it the other day and a couple of people were
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: asking us about it and just for info for anyone.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: Minor league signing means that the team can essentially cut
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: you and it'll cost them nothing. Right, it's not a
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: guaranteed big league contract. If you're a big leaguer, then
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: you get paid whatever the deal is that you could
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: make millions of dollars on a minor league contract. I
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: believe Dylan Moore signed a contract where if he cracks
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: the big you know, he gets like three million bucks
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: whatever it is. So it just doesn't guarantee that the
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: player is going to get whatever he's signing for. Walker
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: Buehler signed a minor league contract with the San Diego Padres.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: Everyone knows Bueller for his Dodger days. That's when he
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: shined and he's bounced around a little bit now. But
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: he'll get a chance to crack a Padres rotation. They're
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: bringing in a few of these flyers ag. I know
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: you guys talked about the Padres the other day. They
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: had so much news that day with Castiano signing and
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: aj Preller signing the extension. I feel like under the
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: radar went Harmon Marquez and Scriffin, Canning and now Walker Buehler,
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: all guys that have a legit shot to be a
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: part of this rotation.
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: Depth. It's all depth. What do we say they didn't
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: have enough pitching, they didn't have those teams? What do
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: the Dodgers do? What do the good teams do? The
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: Blue Jays build depth. If you have enough depth, you
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: get through the season. If everyone works out, you get
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: to the postseason, and then you move some guys to
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: the bullpen if you need to and just add depth.
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: You need depth to get through the season. These are
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: nice depth pieces that can help the Padres win this year.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: And are all three of those guys going to be
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: part of the Padres rotation for the season.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: Absolutely not.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: But even if one of them makes it through and
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: becomes a factor, then it was great Canning's recovering. I
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: don't know if he's ready yet anyway, but he was
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: off to a nice start with the Mets. It looked
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: like they unlocked something when he went from the Angels
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: to the Mets. Herman Marquez used to have some good
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: times and it's coming off you know, this will be
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: his first full season coming off injury. I know he
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: wasn't good last year, but also he finally gets out
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: of Colorado and it's not just the environment there it's
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: also for marquees joining a different pitching program. The Rockies
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: up until this year were probably pretty far behind. Now
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: they're bringing in a new staff, but maybe Marquez is
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: able to find something. So that rotation right now is
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: King Paveta, Musgrove, Randy Vazquez, and then could be Marquez,
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: eventually could be Canning, could be Walker Buehler. And lastly,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: we look at the spring training tour calendar as we'll
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: put a little check mark after today on the Ace
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: foul Territory. Spring training calendar is engineered by Fast and All,
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: So thank you to the a's for Katze and Rooker
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: and Jacob Wilson was great. And then Dodger Camp tomorrow
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: Saturday is Mariners Camp Live, Rangers Camp Live on Sunday
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: next week Brewers, Reds, Cubs, Diamondbacks, Giants, and that'll finish
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: up our Arizona.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: Portion of the tour before we flip it over to Florida.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: So Dodger Camp tomorrow, AJ you'll have a lot of
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: Rizzo helping you out there too.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: Todd Father will be there.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: I will be annoying everyone in the chat, whether you
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: like me, love me, or absolutely despise my haircut.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: I will be in the chat with.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: You tomorrow.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: And wait on my way out. This is how I
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: want to say goodbye. This is important. I wrote this
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: down from yesterday.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: I watched the whole live stream last night. So for
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: Todd Father, the former Derby champ, I'm Scott Braun.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: And for the hit Machine, thank you, I love you.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: Alex call loved AJ growing up. He called him the
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: Machine as a kid. Yes see you Friday, Come Voya.