Latest / No Dribble / Liz's Rule of 3, 72 sleeps To Go & Netball Heritage Matters!
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hey, dribblers, Sorry about this. The audio in this episode
- 0:03Speaker 1: is not amazing mouthsayer, cable dog ate my homework, don't
- 0:07Speaker 1: know tech issues. It's still very listenable and enjoyable, but
- 0:10Speaker 1: you'll hear the odd hiccup and apologies for that. Hope
- 0:13Speaker 1: you still enjoy it. Bye. It's Friday. It's one hundred
- 0:25Speaker 1: and forty days to Christmas, which means it's about seventy
- 0:29Speaker 1: eight days till Catherine puts up her Christmas tree, I believe.
- 0:32Speaker 1: But more excitingly for Net four fans, it's seventy two
- 0:35Speaker 1: days until the real Christmas, which is the start of
- 0:38Speaker 1: the Constellation Cup. Because, of course, while the Commonwealth Games
- 0:41Speaker 1: may be behind us, we are just in the throes
- 0:44Speaker 1: of an exciting netfull year. You're in No Dribble strappings. Hello.
- 1:00Speaker 1: My name's Carolyn Swandelle. Welcome to No Dribble podcast. So
- 1:03Speaker 1: we talk about therefore, we talk about so much more.
- 1:06Speaker 2: And I'm with zealous and we sent her missing somebody.
- 1:10Speaker 1: The empty chair beside me has gone to the bathroom obviously,
- 1:13Speaker 1: but we decided that we needed to get cracking anyway,
- 1:16Speaker 1: because there's just we can't wait for her to be ready.
- 1:20Speaker 1: If we pause every time Catherine needs to go to
- 1:22Speaker 1: the toilet. We'll never get this podcast done, sir.
- 1:26Speaker 2: I should try rooming with it like, oh no, it's happened.
- 1:28Speaker 2: It's down. It's like oh man.
- 1:30Speaker 1: Whayed to offer you. But can we just tell the
- 1:32Speaker 1: truth that we had audio issues for the first forty
- 1:34Speaker 1: five minutes. I Sitney here, you were sitting there quiet nicely.
- 1:39Speaker 1: You had your device. I just you don't need those.
- 1:42Speaker 1: We've got audio issues. Would you like to introduce yourself.
- 1:45Speaker 1: I'm cut Cots, welcome back, Thank you.
- 1:48Speaker 2: Hey, I've got a dilemma. Great, I needed to help
- 1:52Speaker 2: me with. Well, I don't need to help with because
- 1:55Speaker 2: it's solved, like it's over. But I want to know
- 1:57Speaker 2: what you would do. So last Saturday morning, my son
- 2:01Speaker 2: was filling in for a football team, and so his
- 2:05Speaker 2: teams playing at ten thirty and he was filling in
- 2:07Speaker 2: for a team that was playing at eight thirty. So
- 2:10Speaker 2: we got up and we drove to the fields and
- 2:13Speaker 2: we parked. And where these fields are it is notoriously
- 2:16Speaker 2: difficult to get apart. But because we were so early,
- 2:18Speaker 2: I got there and I got like pole position, and
- 2:22Speaker 2: it was a bit of a crappy morning, lots of rain,
- 2:24Speaker 2: lots of crappy weather, and I passed and I went
- 2:27Speaker 2: to watch him. And then at the end of the game,
- 2:29Speaker 2: there was an hour between the first game and then
- 2:32Speaker 2: his team's game, and he wanted to stay there because
- 2:35Speaker 2: a couple of his mates were there, and I was like, yeah,
- 2:36Speaker 2: that's fine. All the parents are here. They're all sort
- 2:38Speaker 2: of running the soccer. And then I thought, what do
- 2:42Speaker 2: I do If I get in the car and go,
- 2:44Speaker 2: I lose pole position. But I needed a coffee, so, oh,
- 2:50Speaker 2: I can't do you know what. I stood there in
- 2:52Speaker 2: the front of the car and just looked looked for
- 2:54Speaker 2: a bad It was these fields between two towns, right,
- 3:00Speaker 2: so they're not there's no you can't walk anywhere.
- 3:04Speaker 1: I thought, now, are you talking about getting an uber
- 3:06Speaker 1: to get the coffee? Or uber? Right? It's come to you.
- 3:09Speaker 2: Oh, Uber to the coffee.
- 3:11Speaker 1: I don't even think of that.
- 3:12Speaker 2: How stupid am I? I should have Uber to the coffee?
- 3:15Speaker 2: Welcome to even do that?
- 3:16Speaker 1: Knowlogy, what did you do? Oh?
- 3:19Speaker 2: I've got in the car and drive and then I
- 3:20Speaker 2: had just a crap park. When I got back and
- 3:22Speaker 2: it was pouring rain and Austin was covered in mudin
- 3:25Speaker 2: anyway that my whole day went downhill from there and
- 3:27Speaker 2: then netbik but wish see I need. I should have
- 3:31Speaker 2: rang you to and said what do I do? You
- 3:32Speaker 2: would have said get an uber, but problem, he's in
- 3:34Speaker 2: the country. An uber could take up to like forty
- 3:36Speaker 2: five minutes, but it would have been worth it to
- 3:38Speaker 2: miss his game to have a great park when he finished.
- 3:41Speaker 1: Do you know what I think you should have done? Actually,
- 3:44Speaker 1: Liz is leant a little bit on the fact that
- 3:47Speaker 1: you are a beloved celebrity in this country and talk
- 3:51Speaker 1: to someone about your dilemma and just going, oh, really,
- 3:55Speaker 1: wish I had a coffee and then either they would
- 3:57Speaker 1: drive you to get it, or they would drive and get.
- 4:00Speaker 2: It for you.
- 4:01Speaker 1: I think this is the time you don't get paid
- 4:03Speaker 1: for your job, so you might as well exploit who
- 4:06Speaker 1: you are in some ways. And that would be you know,
- 4:10Speaker 1: they'd feel like I'm doing a national treasure a favor.
- 4:15Speaker 1: You'd have a coffee, your car wouldn't have moved.
- 4:18Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true. Do you know what I
- 4:20Speaker 2: should have done was put it out on socials. Yeah.
- 4:23Speaker 2: Quite a few years ago, when it flooded, we got
- 4:26Speaker 2: flooded in and I didn't have any coffee beans. So
- 4:29Speaker 2: there's a recurring babe my iced in the coffee. And
- 4:34Speaker 2: one of my neighbors had a spare bag of beans,
- 4:36Speaker 2: and she brought it to our front gate and we
- 4:42Speaker 2: sort of got her to sort of toss it to
- 4:44Speaker 2: where the tractor was. Anyway, we finally got it because
- 4:47Speaker 2: we couldn't get our car in and out to drive
- 4:49Speaker 2: to get some beans. So and because as I put
- 4:51Speaker 2: it out, I said on the socials, I am help,
- 4:55Speaker 2: I am I can't be held responsible for my temper
- 4:57Speaker 2: for the next twenty four hours. Enough, the beans last
- 5:01Speaker 2: cost up to three weeks. What that's the rule of three.
- 5:05Speaker 1: That's the rule of three.
- 5:07Speaker 2: The rule of three. Use You got three months from
- 5:10Speaker 2: when they're picked green to use them. You've got three
- 5:12Speaker 2: weeks from when they're roasted to use them. You've got
- 5:15Speaker 2: three minutes from when they're ground to use them.
- 5:17Speaker 1: Three minutes from when they're ground.
- 5:19Speaker 2: Yeah, look the moment if you if you pre ground
- 5:22Speaker 2: grind your beans, it's not as good as if they're
- 5:24Speaker 2: freshly ground. It's probably controversial.
- 5:28Speaker 1: Yeah, Remeymber. The other day we were talking about how
- 5:30Speaker 1: it was going to be difficult for you to explain
- 5:31Speaker 1: Wanka and teed LESSO tell them.
- 5:34Speaker 2: Three wait till I start talking about my wines hella.
- 5:41Speaker 1: All right, so that was the dilemma and you just
- 5:44Speaker 1: solved it by capitulating.
- 5:46Speaker 2: Yeah, I just capitulated. But I need Okay, I should
- 5:50Speaker 2: use the socials more, shouldn't I?
- 5:52Speaker 1: Yes? Or the group chat. Yeah, because so far you've
- 5:55Speaker 1: only used the group chat in the last couple of
- 5:57Speaker 1: days to swear about the neck ball. But you know,
- 5:58Speaker 1: if we can all the blood Dribble Facebook page, you
- 6:02Speaker 1: would have had a coffee delivered to you by our
- 6:04Speaker 1: amazing dribblers within seconds.
- 6:06Speaker 2: Because I wish all the world this is true. But
- 6:10Speaker 2: on our group chat, didn't you ask us to post
- 6:12Speaker 2: pictures of our cups of tea to prove was it
- 6:14Speaker 2: just to prove to Catherine that it can be done?
- 6:17Speaker 1: No, you said yours through too late, and I will
- 6:21Speaker 1: post them and I want the dribblers to try to
- 6:24Speaker 1: pick whose tea is which so obviously know a little
- 6:29Speaker 1: bit about mate someone's someone's problem with pouring.
- 6:35Speaker 2: But yeah, so, but I put a picture.
- 6:38Speaker 1: Of a cup of tea up on the You was pathetic,
- 6:43Speaker 1: but it wasn't finished. But I'm just showing that you
- 6:45Speaker 1: can pour. You can pour your milk and your water
- 6:48Speaker 1: in without it needing to turn into a national crisis,
- 6:52Speaker 1: like isn't it wasn't finished. Well, the tea bag needed
- 6:55Speaker 1: to steep for a while. Oh well, that that was
- 6:57Speaker 1: the border level. That's what that was the level that
- 6:59Speaker 1: you going to lead that up. Yeah, that was pathetic.
- 7:02Speaker 1: You have to make another one to get any sort
- 7:04Speaker 1: of tea. Okay, you could have another one.
- 7:07Speaker 2: Excuse me, excuse me, lady of the land here, you
- 7:09Speaker 2: don't use tea bags. That's not a proper cup of tea.
- 7:12Speaker 2: That's what you use in emergencies, you do, you were
- 7:17Speaker 2: using leaf. I use leaf tea. We have a teapot
- 7:21Speaker 2: and every morning we get half and we fill the
- 7:23Speaker 2: teapot up, and every person in our house gets a
- 7:25Speaker 2: cup of tea delivered to them, so children, me, husband
- 7:28Speaker 2: does a delivery, and then you have to refresh the
- 7:31Speaker 2: teapot and then we get.
- 7:32Speaker 1: So one person in the house does not get his
- 7:34Speaker 1: tea delivered to him.
- 7:36Speaker 2: Well, sometimes he does, but not often. Well, he gets
- 7:39Speaker 2: his second cup delivered to him because I do the
- 7:41Speaker 2: second cup.
- 7:42Speaker 1: Now, this is what I need to do. I think
- 7:43Speaker 1: I need a tea pot and then to still that
- 7:45Speaker 1: bucker up to the top and then I can just
- 7:47Speaker 1: be civilized with my cup paw and just go again.
- 7:52Speaker 2: Cup like you.
- 7:52Speaker 1: Oh, I don't have that sort of stamina. Well, so
- 7:55Speaker 1: getting a bigger cup then would help it, you said,
- 7:58Speaker 1: don't just tell me to get a bigger cup because
- 7:59Speaker 1: I still fill it up.
- 8:01Speaker 2: No, Catherine, tea, just get a gribbed.
- 8:05Speaker 1: Catherine, it's probably where.
- 8:07Speaker 2: Have you got itself? Yes?
- 8:10Speaker 1: I do.
- 8:10Speaker 2: I've got a nice friend one. I like my tea cozy.
- 8:13Speaker 2: I bought it from the ladies at the Yeah, I
- 8:15Speaker 2: brought it from the ladies at the c W at Bangalow.
- 8:19Speaker 1: Oh, it's such a dying art. Who's going to be
- 8:21Speaker 1: making us that cool stuff when the next gen, you know,
- 8:24Speaker 1: like and who's doing all the home baking? I feel
- 8:26Speaker 1: like all that sort of stuff is so retro bake do.
- 8:31Speaker 2: The sewing and repairing clothes? Right. So my mom, my mum,
- 8:37Speaker 2: who is in her mid eighties, and it's unbelievable, she
- 8:41Speaker 2: still like does hems and buttons and stuff. Or Matthew
- 8:44Speaker 2: does buttons. I can't do buttons, so I can't sew.
- 8:46Speaker 2: But I worry that where we've got such a disposable
- 8:50Speaker 2: approach to fashion that we actually should be repairing, and
- 8:52Speaker 2: I don't know how to repair. So I've asked them
- 8:55Speaker 2: to teach Evelyn because my time is past. I can't
- 8:58Speaker 2: do it.
- 8:59Speaker 1: Yep, can't teach Chilled Dog, New tree Wolf.
- 9:04Speaker 2: Someone sends up with to Evil or one of their
- 9:06Speaker 2: kids the other day about mum having to sew on
- 9:08Speaker 2: the button and they're like, no, that's dad's job in
- 9:09Speaker 2: her house. Yeah, that's feminism.
- 9:11Speaker 1: Yeah, my husband is certainly the one who does those things.
- 9:14Speaker 1: I just say, I can't get the sewing machine down.
- 9:17Speaker 1: It's too high. Not that you use a sewing machine
- 9:19Speaker 1: too to get that down, but the sewing basket and
- 9:21Speaker 1: the sewing machine are up on high. And it's like, well,
- 9:24Speaker 1: everyone loves to tell me though I'm now the shortest
- 9:26Speaker 1: person in this household, I'm not getting that ship down.
- 9:29Speaker 1: You do it? Can we stay on the topic of
- 9:32Speaker 1: Pete and go to my not Dribble recommends yes, so
- 9:35Speaker 1: carry all as Pete's my husband for Oh, I don't know. Honestly,
- 9:38Speaker 1: Carolyn has got these strip lights, but they're censored.
- 9:43Speaker 2: So when you're a bit excited then when it was
- 9:45Speaker 2: like Pete and strim Street, Yeah, I should just end
- 9:48Speaker 2: the story there. Anytime, if you walk into the bathroom
- 9:51Speaker 2: or walk wherever, it automatically lights up. You knowderf for
- 9:54Speaker 2: you're turning to light on so it gives you enough
- 9:55Speaker 2: light and then it's just censor for her.
- 9:57Speaker 1: Have the long and then you leave. Anyway, I was
- 9:59Speaker 1: right even about them like a crazy person. Pete bought
- 10:02Speaker 1: me some and they are the best things out every bra.
- 10:07Speaker 1: They're like a ruler and you can just stick them on,
- 10:09Speaker 1: to stick them onto the wall, chuck them in your
- 10:12Speaker 1: suitcase if you're traveling somewhere, particularly if you're taking your
- 10:15Speaker 1: mummy somewhere for instance, and it's like you don't know
- 10:18Speaker 1: whether your accommodation will have good night light type situation.
- 10:22Speaker 1: So I'm going to take them to your ze next
- 10:24Speaker 1: week USB change and they'm fantastic on but you're getting
- 10:28Speaker 1: good use sound of them. Get on board it. And
- 10:29Speaker 1: they're just from what Amazon or something, aren't they well
- 10:32Speaker 1: know is a very expensive shop that he brought them
- 10:35Speaker 1: from to team were a gift. I don't know, we're
- 10:37Speaker 1: probably taking more Amazon US. Oh good glad you like
- 10:42Speaker 1: alf we should take a little break and talk about
- 10:44Speaker 1: some netball though. Okay, I've got some controversy, and look,
- 11:00Speaker 1: we've talked about it before, but I think it's timely
- 11:03Speaker 1: for us to raise this again. So I've had a
- 11:06Speaker 1: number of dribblers right to me over the last couple
- 11:08Speaker 1: of days, obviously grieving somewhat a Commonwealth Games gold medal
- 11:15Speaker 1: that we probably all thought was going to come back
- 11:18Speaker 1: to Australia, didn't we. So it's been a bit of
- 11:20Speaker 1: a shock to the system. But actually sort of talking
- 11:22Speaker 1: about that, and we talked about this the other day
- 11:25Speaker 1: that in allowing internationals into our super netball competition rise
- 11:30Speaker 1: and tide raises or boats, everyone's getting better. But what
- 11:33Speaker 1: point do we go It's not worth it for Australia anymore.
- 11:37Speaker 1: We've now you know this, We've now made our lives
- 11:42Speaker 1: much more difficult. So, you know, I had Sharon Brock
- 11:46Speaker 1: wrote to me and she said that, you know, personally
- 11:49Speaker 1: she's a big fan of the internationals and obviously he's
- 11:51Speaker 1: a Thunderbird supporter. She certainly would be, but you know,
- 11:55Speaker 1: is just saying, now, you know, have we seen the
- 11:58Speaker 1: last of our every four years Commonwealth Game gold medal.
- 12:02Speaker 1: Is next year's World Cup starting to look under threat
- 12:04Speaker 1: for us? And what's what price are we willing to
- 12:07Speaker 1: pay here? Discuss? Don't ask me, well, let me tell you.
- 12:13Speaker 1: Let me. I've got some notes and things that I
- 12:16Speaker 1: wanted to say. And this will obviously fantastic. Story came
- 12:21Speaker 1: to me from madridblin named Emagillard and she's Irish and
- 12:24Speaker 1: County Mayo has won the Gaelic Football Championship for the
- 12:28Speaker 1: first time since nineteen fifty one, seventy five years since
- 12:33Speaker 1: they have had a championship, and they just won it.
- 12:37Speaker 1: And this town, this county is going absolutely insane now
- 12:41Speaker 1: very interesting because they think they were cursed. In nineteen
- 12:45Speaker 1: fifty boy yes son the winning squad. When they came
- 12:49Speaker 1: back into County Mayo interrupted a funeral procession. Legend has
- 12:54Speaker 1: at a Catholic priest cursed them all, saying they would
- 12:56Speaker 1: never win another championship as long as they all shall live.
- 13:00Speaker 1: Last surviving player from that winning team died in twenty
- 13:03Speaker 1: twenty three, leading many to believe that the curse has
- 13:06Speaker 1: been broken. So Mayo has been a running joke for
- 13:09Speaker 1: years and years and years that it's like Mayo can't
- 13:12Speaker 1: win anything. And you know, you look at the South
- 13:15Speaker 1: City rabbit Os here in rugby league or forty three
- 13:19Speaker 1: years between their last two Premier issues. Now every sport
- 13:22Speaker 1: has these clubs who have this incredibly long period without success.
- 13:28Speaker 1: Tea Birts nearly two seasons without a win and their
- 13:32Speaker 1: fans are absolutely rusted on. So is losing actually something
- 13:38Speaker 1: that creates greater commitment from the fans. Does it make
- 13:45Speaker 1: your dessert sweeter when you've eaten your Brussels sprouts for dinner? Oh,
- 13:48Speaker 1: it absolutely does. But it is also going to make
- 13:50Speaker 1: Australia better, Like they haven't ever made the gold medal game,
- 13:54Speaker 1: so you can't tell me they're not now going in
- 13:56Speaker 1: there and flipping every rock upside down to see what's underneath.
- 14:00Speaker 1: Where do we need to improve? We've got a World
- 14:03Speaker 1: Cup at high next year. Yeah, that can't happen to
- 14:05Speaker 1: us again. I think it is so good, as I said,
- 14:08Speaker 1: internationally for all the other countries, but it's a kick
- 14:11Speaker 1: in the ass for us as well, and that's not
- 14:14Speaker 1: always a bad thing.
- 14:15Speaker 2: Yes, And whilst I do need to tread carefully, I
- 14:19Speaker 2: would love to see I don't think the answer is
- 14:21Speaker 2: restricting the imports. I think the answer is getting more teams, right,
- 14:24Speaker 2: So that's something that that certainly is a focus. But
- 14:29Speaker 2: I actually also think, yes, five New Zealand players, five
- 14:33Speaker 2: silver Fans played in super Netball. How many Jamaicans four
- 14:38Speaker 2: maybe played in super Netball five?
- 14:40Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 14:41Speaker 2: Do you know how many Diamonds played in super Netball twelve? Right?
- 14:45Speaker 2: So yes, it helps the other countries, but our players
- 14:49Speaker 2: get to play against some day in day out. The
- 14:51Speaker 2: thing that having all the imports certainly restricts is the
- 14:56Speaker 2: number of Australian players with contracts. But there's still you know,
- 14:59Speaker 2: six israel plays ish. I don't quite don't have the
- 15:02Speaker 2: numbers in front of me. So I do think though
- 15:07Speaker 2: that from a commercial point of view, saying being able
- 15:10Speaker 2: to say this is the best league in the world
- 15:12Speaker 2: with the best players is certainly helpful. I know from
- 15:15Speaker 2: speaking to people at Channel nine who were there for
- 15:17Speaker 2: the last negotiations when you know super Netball came to
- 15:21Speaker 2: nine a decade ago, was that that was something that
- 15:25Speaker 2: was really quite exciting for them and it's something that
- 15:27Speaker 2: we've sort of built the commercial reality on. So I mean,
- 15:31Speaker 2: I think it's it's always it's good to always good
- 15:34Speaker 2: to question, right, if we're going to have our unlimited imports,
- 15:36Speaker 2: we should have a really good reason as to why
- 15:38Speaker 2: it shouldn't just be it's because that's what we've always done.
- 15:41Speaker 2: If we're going to restrict the imports, we need a
- 15:43Speaker 2: good reason as to why. But certainly it's having that
- 15:46Speaker 2: loss in that semi final ego, Well, because we've trained
- 15:49Speaker 2: up the rest of the world. Well, maybe we have,
- 15:51Speaker 2: But is that a if we can take a step back,
- 15:54Speaker 2: Is that a good thing for the game globally? Yeah?
- 15:56Speaker 2: Is it a good thing for the game domestically, probably,
- 16:00Speaker 2: because there's so much more interests when it's you know,
- 16:02Speaker 2: when it's in the balance. That's when sport is at
- 16:05Speaker 2: its greatest. When things are in the balance. It's like
- 16:07Speaker 2: you know, you know, when you lose it. When you
- 16:08Speaker 2: win a Grand Final by twenty, it's great, but when
- 16:11Speaker 2: the final whistle goes, you're like, yeah, we won. When
- 16:13Speaker 2: you win a Grand Final in the last second, that's
- 16:15Speaker 2: when you lose your shit, right, because it's in the balance.
- 16:17Speaker 2: And that when sport is in the balance, whether it's
- 16:19Speaker 2: in a Grand final or whether it's in a competition
- 16:22Speaker 2: where anyone can win that's when it is it is
- 16:25Speaker 2: at its best, and I'm proud that Australia has been
- 16:27Speaker 2: able to do that for the rest of the world.
- 16:29Speaker 2: I think that's something we should absolutely hang our hat on.
- 16:32Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think your point is so valid in
- 16:34Speaker 1: that how invested were people that wouldn't normally be in
- 16:38Speaker 1: this game's campaign because they knew all these players from
- 16:41Speaker 1: other countries and knew them really well, so they could
- 16:43Speaker 1: watch that gold medal game, they could watch the bronze
- 16:45Speaker 1: medal game. I know most of the players on the court.
- 16:48Speaker 1: I think that is so special and it gets you
- 16:50Speaker 1: excited and then it's going to get you even more
- 16:51Speaker 1: excited about next year. Well, I'm really excited about the
- 16:54Speaker 1: Constellation Cut for a whole lot of reasons, obviously having
- 16:57Speaker 1: watched these players, but now seeing New Zealand as the
- 17:01Speaker 1: current gold medalist, and I think about rugby union and
- 17:04Speaker 1: like the Bledislow Cut Australia New Zealand, it happens every year.
- 17:08Speaker 1: Australia hasn't won it since two thousand and two, and
- 17:12Speaker 1: they get tens of thousands of people going along to
- 17:14Speaker 1: see this fully expecting that the Wallabies are going to
- 17:17Speaker 1: lose it. And it's like that is part of the whole.
- 17:21Speaker 1: I need to be there when this happened, when this
- 17:23Speaker 1: tight Ferns and those Silver Ferns fans who made their
- 17:27Speaker 1: way to Glasgow, they were there when they saw that happen,
- 17:31Speaker 1: and it's so then will that's part of it? And
- 17:33Speaker 1: I just I think it's a I hate to see
- 17:37Speaker 1: the Diamonds lose. It was hodeous slip well afterwards, but
- 17:41Speaker 1: I also feel like it's possibly the best thing that
- 17:44Speaker 1: could have happened, not just internationally but for us as
- 17:47Speaker 1: a sport, Like it really starts to bring in something
- 17:50Speaker 1: that it's like, oh, yeah, well the Diamonds just always win.
- 17:53Speaker 1: Oh they must only always win because everyone else is hopeless.
- 17:56Speaker 1: It's like, no, they win and it's hard to win.
- 17:59Speaker 1: And I think that's that's much more valuable. I'm excited
- 18:03Speaker 1: by it. I feel sorry for those young women who
- 18:06Speaker 1: had to be the ones, you know, the first team
- 18:08Speaker 1: to not get into a Commonwealth Games gold medal. But
- 18:11Speaker 1: I feel like that will be in and we saw
- 18:13Speaker 1: it the very next day when they came out in
- 18:15Speaker 1: the bronze medal max that they went to hell with this.
- 18:18Speaker 1: Let's show them what we can do. And I really
- 18:20Speaker 1: hope mentum of New Zealand's win carries on to something
- 18:23Speaker 1: getting fixed in the annually.
- 18:25Speaker 2: Ill Yeah, And I also think that, like the redemption
- 18:28Speaker 2: after for next year's World Cuff is such a great
- 18:30Speaker 2: opportunity for the Diamonds as well, like to like, that's
- 18:33Speaker 2: a great story, that's really exciting. Someone did say to me,
- 18:36Speaker 2: you know, about the Olympics push. They were like, well,
- 18:38Speaker 2: be careful what you wish for the rest of the
- 18:40Speaker 2: world might get good at netball, Like that's great. I
- 18:43Speaker 2: want the Netball World Cup to be like ten nations
- 18:47Speaker 2: can win it. But you know, when you watch the
- 18:49Speaker 2: Football World Cup, it's still the same sort of five
- 18:52Speaker 2: or six nations that you see at the pointing end,
- 18:54Speaker 2: but everything's just that bit more condensed in terms of
- 18:57Speaker 2: who can win. I would be racked to see that.
- 19:00Speaker 2: I would be wrapped to see China and the United
- 19:02Speaker 2: States and India and these really populous nations put a
- 19:07Speaker 2: crap town of money into the sport and development, Like
- 19:09Speaker 2: how good would that be?
- 19:10Speaker 1: Well, netb USA, it's advertising for a whole lot of positions.
- 19:14Speaker 1: If anyone wants to go over and build a game
- 19:16Speaker 1: in the United States, there's the jobs are open right now.
- 19:20Speaker 2: So yeah, interesting.
- 19:21Speaker 1: I was watching and this obviously changed over the weekend,
- 19:27Speaker 1: but you know, I was watching a number of the
- 19:29Speaker 1: pool matches and I thought, so, it's for argument's sake,
- 19:32Speaker 1: say giants, that were our worst super netball team just
- 19:34Speaker 1: based on where they came on the ladder. I don't
- 19:36Speaker 1: I don't think that necessarily reflected how close some of
- 19:40Speaker 1: the games they played were and the excellence of what
- 19:41Speaker 1: they shot on court. But I think that they could
- 19:45Speaker 1: have been quite competitive at the Commonwealth Games and not medalists.
- 19:49Speaker 1: But you know, and that makes it really hard if
- 19:52Speaker 1: you are a netballer in this country, because you've got
- 19:55Speaker 1: to be really world classed into the Diamond. But what
- 20:00Speaker 1: are they doing. They're saying, I'm going to be world class.
- 20:02Speaker 1: I'm going to I'm going to do what I need
- 20:05Speaker 1: to do in order to get that position, and then
- 20:08Speaker 1: if they do, then you know, they get to play
- 20:12Speaker 1: in one of the best in the world. Before we
- 20:14Speaker 1: leave on I just want to show everyone the showing
- 20:16Speaker 1: off that's going on here. What's up? Look at the
- 20:19Speaker 1: size of that font. Do you actually read that? Yeah?
- 20:23Speaker 1: I can read it. You know, it's not I probably
- 20:26Speaker 1: should have. I did think earlier on when I was
- 20:28Speaker 1: reading it that I probably should have made that slightly large. Anyway,
- 20:32Speaker 1: all good shot, everyone growing questions, but also, like all
- 20:35Speaker 1: of this stuff, thinking about you know, the other sports
- 20:37Speaker 1: and things. It's so critical that we retain the heritage
- 20:40Speaker 1: of our super net ball clubs, isn't it. Like you
- 20:42Speaker 1: look at that with the so the Rabbit O's were
- 20:45Speaker 1: in and out of the competition, the West Tigers have
- 20:48Speaker 1: had mergers and things, and I know, you know, so
- 20:51Speaker 1: the Sydney Swans were what were they in Melbourne? The
- 20:55Speaker 1: South Melbourne, But there's still the Bloods and we get
- 20:59Speaker 1: a whole lot of peace from Melbourne coming up to
- 21:01Speaker 1: support them. And you can't create that heritage. It needs
- 21:05Speaker 1: to be built. And it's like, I'm so if we
- 21:08Speaker 1: have to have changes of ownership structures and things, I
- 21:11Speaker 1: really hope we can retain the brands because you know,
- 21:15Speaker 1: the Mavericks have just started Booth three years in now,
- 21:18Speaker 1: but it's like they've got none of that sort of
- 21:20Speaker 1: heritage to pull on. And then when we were all
- 21:22Speaker 1: at the Swift's thirty year at dinner, you know, you
- 21:25Speaker 1: look at all of that and that it inspires the
- 21:27Speaker 1: players and keeps fans from different generations connected. And you
- 21:33Speaker 1: know you can't. It has to happen over time, but
- 21:37Speaker 1: it does. It matters for a sport and for sports fans.
- 21:43Speaker 2: It does.
- 21:44Speaker 1: Interestingly, County Mayo have the same colors as the rabbit
- 21:47Speaker 1: O's that are red green, so it has that five
- 21:52Speaker 1: years and the poor Barsket. Everyone in Mayo is just thinking,
- 21:55Speaker 1: can your diary? All right? We should take a quick
- 22:01Speaker 1: break and come back. Okay, well, gosh, it's Friday now,
- 22:16Speaker 1: we're exhausted. We've been talking about neck Bull for well
- 22:20Speaker 1: over a week now. I think a question for you,
- 22:22Speaker 1: do you because you were carrying on about Holy Madison
- 22:25Speaker 1: and the book that I read it yeahn four time
- 22:27Speaker 1: and answers down the rabbit hole. Yes, and you said
- 22:30Speaker 1: I'm going to get it. Yes, you happen.
- 22:31Speaker 2: I have you.
- 22:33Speaker 1: I've started with mome work. I haven't finished. I'm a
- 22:35Speaker 1: third of the way through. What it strikes me is
- 22:39Speaker 1: an incredibly exploitative and quite tragic story of an old
- 22:46Speaker 1: rich man taking these young women and basically holding them hostage,
- 22:53Speaker 1: and this horrendous, bloody life. So it is it's much
- 22:58Speaker 1: more interesting that I thought, and it's a much more
- 23:02Speaker 1: feminist text than I respected. I've got to say because
- 23:05Speaker 1: actually that is what Holly Madison is saying. I don't
- 23:07Speaker 1: know where she will get to in the ark of
- 23:08Speaker 1: a story. I'm three quarters of No, I'm thirty percent
- 23:12Speaker 1: of the way through. That's different from three quarters, Maxkans.
- 23:14Speaker 1: If you're doing your HC, don't come to me for you.
- 23:18Speaker 1: But I suspect that's where she's going, because she really
- 23:21Speaker 1: is talking about this setup and how vile and exploitative
- 23:27Speaker 1: it was, and how the women were pitted against one
- 23:31Speaker 1: another in competition for Hugh Hefner's attention, but also for
- 23:36Speaker 1: the possibility that if you get to be a Playmate
- 23:39Speaker 1: of the month, that will change your life, and she
- 23:42Speaker 1: is now realizing, actually there's not can you name a
- 23:46Speaker 1: playmate of the month apart from like Pamela Anderson and
- 23:50Speaker 1: I think marily Monroe was one. But yeah, it's I'm
- 23:53Speaker 1: really into a surprise. And then the good thing is
- 23:59Speaker 1: because after you read it, if you go back and
- 24:01Speaker 1: watch the episodes, I know you won't. Yeah, but it's
- 24:04Speaker 1: the show is completely glorified. You don't get an inkling
- 24:08Speaker 1: into any of that stuff. So it is fascinating to
- 24:11Speaker 1: then go back and watch it on the lens of
- 24:13Speaker 1: having read all that stuff, and to be honest, that's
- 24:15Speaker 1: what I thought the book would be like that. It
- 24:17Speaker 1: was just a kind of oh, look at us, we're
- 24:18Speaker 1: pretty in and look at our outfits. But it is
- 24:21Speaker 1: actually it's a really interesting and very sad story actually
- 24:26Speaker 1: about these these young, young, impressionable women who are just
- 24:32Speaker 1: brought into this world with these promises and just yeah,
- 24:36Speaker 1: and how lonely it must have been for them. I'm
- 24:41Speaker 1: god smacked. I'll get you all my other recommendations. Okay,
- 24:45Speaker 1: have you read Slash's book No right from Guns n' Roses?
- 24:49Speaker 1: I know who's actually is interesting. Oh, you keep talking,
- 24:53Speaker 1: let's get it to say, more books. I bet you
- 24:54Speaker 1: uns out of stadt. No, you regulate in a doc
- 25:00Speaker 1: I did, And I read Andrea Agassi's book That was fascinating.
- 25:03Speaker 1: Have you read that? No? Yeah, read a book about Tennis? Well,
- 25:07Speaker 1: because it's not it's about the story in the background,
- 25:11Speaker 1: and they both hated Tennis hated it. It's fascinate anyway,
- 25:17Speaker 1: So I'm faring to the biographies and stuff people's love
- 25:21Speaker 1: stories made interesting.
- 25:22Speaker 2: I think the interesting thing about both Andrea Agas's book
- 25:25Speaker 2: and the Lana Dokic's book was the role of their
- 25:27Speaker 2: father's and the fact and I don't know about you, Catherine, like,
- 25:32Speaker 2: I am so whatever whatever you want to do, I'm
- 25:34Speaker 2: not going to push you with my kids because I
- 25:36Speaker 2: don't want them to write a book going My mum
- 25:38Speaker 2: was an asshology push me. And you know I do
- 25:43Speaker 2: say when people ask me, I'm like, I don't care
- 25:45Speaker 2: what they play. Oh won my World Cups. I do
- 25:47Speaker 2: need do not need my children to win World Cups.
- 25:49Speaker 2: And people go to be, ah, what a flex I'm like,
- 25:51Speaker 2: oh no, I'm not okay, it's a flex. Whatever. Yeah,
- 25:54Speaker 2: I won World Cups. I do not need my children
- 25:57Speaker 2: to win them for me.
- 25:58Speaker 1: No.
- 25:58Speaker 2: Do you know what I saw year's oldest ever gold
- 26:01Speaker 2: medalist Commonwealth Games gold medalist was a woman who wanted
- 26:03Speaker 2: gold medal in the bowls. I was like, oh, very,
- 26:07Speaker 2: I don't look any sport where you can drink a
- 26:09Speaker 2: beer and do it not that not that the people
- 26:13Speaker 2: at those level do it.
- 26:14Speaker 1: Like.
- 26:14Speaker 2: She was really super focused and superior. And I'm like, yeah,
- 26:18Speaker 2: it's just you know, idiots like me that would drink
- 26:20Speaker 2: a beer and bowl at the same time throw darts.
- 26:23Speaker 1: No, that's not an Olympic spot or commwalk game sport.
- 26:25Speaker 1: But Paul's got a good little circuit going on. Yeah, snooker.
- 26:28Speaker 1: I think they take it pretty seriously.
- 26:30Speaker 2: I think they do. It's not like you, me and Catherine,
- 26:32Speaker 2: where there's like, if you have a certain number of drinks,
- 26:36Speaker 2: there's like a sweet spot where oh yeah, your poor
- 26:39Speaker 2: ability and your drinks sort of really work together, and
- 26:41Speaker 2: then you have one more drinking and it's just fall down. Yeah. Yeah,
- 26:44Speaker 2: it's such how they do it professionally, Catherine.
- 26:47Speaker 1: I find my attention span Wayne's before I finish the
- 26:50Speaker 1: game of pool, Like I really like it in the beginning,
- 26:53Speaker 1: and then I'm like, for God's sake, can I just
- 26:56Speaker 1: can someone win this? Dame to what I'm taking from that,
- 26:59Speaker 1: I'm not very good.
- 27:00Speaker 2: Not y, you know, because you should play with Catherine's excellent?
- 27:04Speaker 2: Are you? Why are you? So?
- 27:05Speaker 1: We had a pool table growing up, which was the
- 27:08Speaker 1: greatest thing ever because if you were bored kids, No,
- 27:12Speaker 1: not a that's a great stage though.
- 27:15Speaker 2: Oh we had a ping pong table in the garage.
- 27:19Speaker 1: Oh so good see and could you play ping pong?
- 27:22Speaker 2: Still?
- 27:22Speaker 1: We did our parents were deleased. What's that God can.
- 27:26Speaker 2: Do with d What did you say, Carolyn?
- 27:29Speaker 1: I said, we did.
- 27:29Speaker 2: My parents were divorced. Just not half a pool table
- 27:35Speaker 2: and half a ping pong table.
- 27:39Speaker 1: Every second weekend I had a pool table. They were
- 27:42Speaker 1: so good though, because I would just play it by
- 27:44Speaker 1: myself all the time, like if I was born and
- 27:46Speaker 1: I just you know, it's a skill.
- 27:49Speaker 2: I would read a book.
- 27:50Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, a little bit the same.
- 27:53Speaker 2: So my kids, you know how we've got that really
- 27:54Speaker 2: long table at our place. And when we built our
- 27:57Speaker 2: house there was an old dead teach tree, I think,
- 28:00Speaker 2: and we cut the cut the tree down and we've
- 28:03Speaker 2: got it milled and we've turned into a massively long table.
- 28:06Speaker 2: As you both know, it can fit I don't know
- 28:08Speaker 2: ten or twelve people on it, but my kids have
- 28:11Speaker 2: turned it into a table tennis table. And do you remember, Catherine,
- 28:14Speaker 2: you guys bought me like a carved, beautiful carved sort
- 28:17Speaker 2: of going first Nation's art, and it's really long and
- 28:20Speaker 2: it's actually if you put it across the table, it
- 28:22Speaker 2: goes from one side. That's nice. It's poverty ping pong
- 28:28Speaker 2: because we don't have a ping pong table. But they've
- 28:30Speaker 2: turned the darting table into a table tennis. Fast forward
- 28:33Speaker 2: a few years, I'll be using it for beer pole.
- 28:37Speaker 2: I'm not bad at that.
- 28:38Speaker 1: Oh see, yeah, you've got to find you think. I
- 28:42Speaker 1: don't think I'll ever played bee pole? When can we
- 28:44Speaker 1: do that next? It's also not that fun, but you're drunk,
- 28:48Speaker 1: so it's like, oh, it's just fun. And what you
- 28:51Speaker 1: two should do is come down to my gym and
- 28:53Speaker 1: December every year we do the beer Mile. I've told
- 28:55Speaker 1: you no its haven't I No, I am. I am
- 28:58Speaker 1: the reigning champion this year. My name is on the
- 29:01Speaker 1: trophy three out or twice out of the three years
- 29:04Speaker 1: that we have been running it. So it's scarlet can
- 29:07Speaker 1: of beer and bolt is the prescribed choice. You have
- 29:11Speaker 1: to do that run four hundred meters. You do that
- 29:13Speaker 1: four times. So I'm how many people vomit when you
- 29:16Speaker 1: do that?
- 29:17Speaker 2: Oh?
- 29:17Speaker 1: Like quite a lot. Oh we didn't have as many
- 29:19Speaker 1: vomitters last year. But a lot of what happens is
- 29:22Speaker 1: a lot of twenty somethings come in and go, I'm
- 29:26Speaker 1: going to be great at this, and they're hopeless at it.
- 29:29Speaker 1: And in the middle aged people. So the gen x
- 29:31Speaker 1: is because of course these younger people are not drinking
- 29:34Speaker 1: as much as they eat as we did so, but
- 29:36Speaker 1: also because they're young, they go, I'll drink and then
- 29:39Speaker 1: I'll sprint. And the answer is, if you're ever going
- 29:41Speaker 1: to be a mild, drink fast, run slow. Now do
- 29:44Speaker 1: you know what you need to do this year? Off
- 29:45Speaker 1: the back of some inspiration we had earlier? This? Have
- 29:48Speaker 1: you there? Well, that would be a good start. But
- 29:50Speaker 1: do you beer and then do a burpie and a
- 29:53Speaker 1: squat jump or beer? Yeah?
- 29:58Speaker 2: No, there's a great. There's a great at the Bangalow show.
- 30:01Speaker 2: So this is why you live in the country. And
- 30:03Speaker 2: at the end of it, like you've got to do
- 30:05Speaker 2: a heap of things like that and you ride your
- 30:07Speaker 2: horse and drop things, but you have to skull a
- 30:10Speaker 2: can of warm beer as well. Yes, but I always
- 30:14Speaker 2: saw Catherine that, you know how we used to do
- 30:16Speaker 2: the beat test and you and I was sort of
- 30:19Speaker 2: you and I were sort of.
- 30:20Speaker 1: Mid to bad. There's no meat about where I was.
- 30:25Speaker 2: Okay, you were bad and I was mean. But I
- 30:28Speaker 2: always thought, you know, all these smart ass little mid
- 30:30Speaker 2: courts who you know, kill us on that make him
- 30:33Speaker 2: drink a bottle of champagne and do it in heels,
- 30:35Speaker 2: and they would there would be nowhere you and I
- 30:38Speaker 2: would have absolutely smashed it out of the ballpark. But
- 30:41Speaker 2: no one to do that. I don't know.
- 30:45Speaker 1: That's not a mid No, that's an age. I reckon.
- 30:48Speaker 2: That's they're all little, right. If you're little, you can't
- 30:52Speaker 2: drink some champagne and run. It's when you were a
- 30:55Speaker 2: big unit, you've got more. What is it?
- 30:58Speaker 1: Myself as as incorrect? Elizabeth only one at last year
- 31:04Speaker 1: because the woman who is an absolute weapon was not there.
- 31:08Speaker 1: So but I don't care. It's you. I beat all
- 31:14Speaker 1: the others. There was another woman who clearly thought she
- 31:16Speaker 1: was going to get me, and at about three laps
- 31:18Speaker 1: so after the third beer, I thought, no, I just
- 31:21Speaker 1: have to hang in here. I'm going to get her,
- 31:24Speaker 1: and she just could not finish her fourth beer. It
- 31:26Speaker 1: was you out the front the whole time. No, no, no, no,
- 31:28Speaker 1: she was. She was ahead of me and I just
- 31:31Speaker 1: had my yes and I can't let her get too
- 31:33Speaker 1: far away. I reckon, I'll be able to run her down.
- 31:35Speaker 1: Did she any one of the premature celebrations before the
- 31:38Speaker 1: lawn note? Wasn't that great? I love those clips? So
- 31:42Speaker 1: I sent a video around in our group chat after
- 31:44Speaker 1: lizard stuff, swearing about the game of athletes doing premature celebrations,
- 31:50Speaker 1: so you know, coming up to the line and then
- 31:52Speaker 1: sort of waving their hands and someone coming up and
- 31:55Speaker 1: just getting over, breaking the tape before them. So you
- 31:59Speaker 1: would replay that in your mind every night at two
- 32:03Speaker 1: am for eternity, yeap or eternity? Do you have menopause?
- 32:09Speaker 1: Is that why you're awake at anyway? Exactly so, and
- 32:12Speaker 1: so it's beautiful and if you've got anxiety, that's a
- 32:14Speaker 1: double win too. Isn't that good break? Anyway? So yeah, anyway, well,
- 32:18Speaker 1: I guess that's probably time for us to wrap. But
- 32:22Speaker 1: you know, we've all survived the first week post Commonwealth Games.
- 32:25Speaker 1: It's only what is it, two hundred and seven weeks
- 32:29Speaker 1: until the next Commonwealth Games? There or thereabouts were off
- 32:32Speaker 1: to India. But in how many days did I say?
- 32:35Speaker 1: Seventy two days from today we will be having Constellation Cups.
- 32:39Speaker 1: So there you still a lot of neck board to
- 32:42Speaker 1: still get excited about thanks to joining us. I'm Caroline
- 32:44Speaker 1: Swindella got dogs.
- 32:46Speaker 2: I'd lose ls bye ah.
- 32:48Speaker 1: But this