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- 0:57Every
- 0:57football
- 0:58fan
- 0:58knows
- 0:59the
- 0:59sound,
- 0:59the
- 0:59heart
- 1:00stopping
- 1:00clank
- 1:01off
- 1:01the
- 1:01upright
- 1:01that
- 1:02can
- 1:02ruin
- 1:02a
- 1:02season
- 1:03or
- 1:03make
- 1:03a
- 1:04miracle.
- 1:04We
- 1:04call
- 1:05it
- 1:05the
- 1:05doink
- 1:05today.
- 1:06But
- 1:06where
- 1:06did
- 1:06that
- 1:07word
- 1:07actually
- 1:07come
- 1:08from?
- 1:08Joining
- 1:08us
- 1:09is
- 1:09Timothy
- 1:09b.
- 1:09Brown
- 1:10of
- 1:10footballarchaeology.com
- 1:11and
- 1:11he's
- 1:12tracing
- 1:12the
- 1:12doink
- 1:13back
- 1:13to
- 1:13a
- 1:13legendary
- 1:14John
- 1:14Madden
- 1:14Broadcast
- 1:15in
- 1:151986
- 1:16and
- 1:16uncovering
- 1:17the
- 1:171870s
- 1:18era
- 1:18of
- 1:18the
- 1:18poster
- 1:19where
- 1:19hitting
- 1:20the
- 1:20goal
- 1:20post
- 1:20meant
- 1:21the
- 1:21kick
- 1:21didn't
- 1:21count
- 1:22at
- 1:22all.
- 1:22Grab
- 1:23your
- 1:23helmets.
- 1:23We're
- 1:23diving
- 1:24into
- 1:24the
- 1:24history
- 1:24of
- 1:24football's
- 1:25most
- 1:25maddening
- 1:26sound.
- 1:26Tim,
- 1:27welcome
- 1:27to
- 1:28Pigskin
- 1:28Dispatch.
- 1:29Hey
- 1:30Darin,
- 1:30thanks
- 1:31for
- 1:32inviting
- 1:32me
- 1:32once
- 1:33again.
- 1:33And
- 1:33you
- 1:34know,
- 1:34we're
- 1:34sitting
- 1:34here,
- 1:34we're
- 1:35going
- 1:35to
- 1:35talk
- 1:35about
- 1:36football's
- 1:36first
- 1:36doinks
- 1:37and
- 1:38kind
- 1:39of
- 1:39just
- 1:39want
- 1:39to
- 1:39know
- 1:39if
- 1:39you
- 1:40remember
- 1:40your
- 1:40first
- 1:40doink.
- 1:42I
- 1:42don't
- 1:43know
- 1:43if
- 1:43that's
- 1:43any
- 1:43of
- 1:43your
- 1:43business
- 1:44there,
- 1:44big
- 1:44fella.
- 1:47I
- 1:47admit,
- 1:48you
- 1:48know,
- 1:49kicking
- 1:49the
- 1:49ball
- 1:49and
- 1:50hitting
- 1:50a.
- 1:50Oh,
- 1:50oh,
- 1:51okay,
- 1:52okay.
- 1:53All
- 1:53right.
- 1:53Oh,
- 1:53your
- 1:53mind,
- 1:54your,
- 1:54your
- 1:55mind
- 1:55is
- 1:55terrible.
- 1:58I'm
- 1:58not
- 1:58even
- 1:58going
- 1:58to
- 1:58tell
- 1:58you.
- 1:59Where
- 1:59I
- 1:59asked
- 2:00the
- 2:00question
- 2:00and
- 2:01you
- 2:01just
- 2:01went.
- 2:01I
- 2:02don't
- 2:02even
- 2:02know
- 2:02where
- 2:02my
- 2:03mind
- 2:03went.
- 2:03So.
- 2:04It
- 2:05went
- 2:05long
- 2:05ago,
- 2:05that's
- 2:06for
- 2:06sure.
- 2:07All
- 2:08right,
- 2:08well
- 2:08Tim's
- 2:08alluding
- 2:09to
- 2:09a
- 2:09recent
- 2:10tidbit
- 2:10that
- 2:10he
- 2:10wrote
- 2:11that's
- 2:11called
- 2:12football's
- 2:12first
- 2:13doinks
- 2:13and
- 2:14poster.
- 2:14So
- 2:14Tim,
- 2:15it's
- 2:15a
- 2:15interesting
- 2:16story
- 2:16and
- 2:16maybe
- 2:17you
- 2:17can
- 2:17explain
- 2:17it
- 2:17to
- 2:17us.
- 2:18Sure.
- 2:19So
- 2:19this,
- 2:20you
- 2:20know,
- 2:21lately
- 2:22I've
- 2:22been
- 2:22doing
- 2:22a
- 2:22bunch
- 2:22of
- 2:23these
- 2:23kind
- 2:23of
- 2:23multi
- 2:24level
- 2:25stories,
- 2:26right.
- 2:26I
- 2:26mean
- 2:26just
- 2:27different
- 2:28things
- 2:28that
- 2:28kind
- 2:28of
- 2:28come,
- 2:29hopefully
- 2:29come
- 2:29together.
- 2:30But
- 2:31so
- 2:32this
- 2:32one
- 2:32is
- 2:32about
- 2:32kind
- 2:33of
- 2:33the
- 2:33origin
- 2:33of
- 2:34the
- 2:34word
- 2:34doink
- 2:36as
- 2:36used
- 2:36in
- 2:37football
- 2:37today.
- 2:38And
- 2:39you
- 2:39know
- 2:40when,
- 2:40well
- 2:40actually
- 2:41I
- 2:41should
- 2:41say
- 2:42origins
- 2:42of
- 2:42the
- 2:42word
- 2:43doink
- 2:43before
- 2:44it
- 2:44was
- 2:44applied
- 2:45to
- 2:45football,
- 2:45then
- 2:45when
- 2:45it
- 2:46was
- 2:46first
- 2:46applied
- 2:46to
- 2:47football.
- 2:48And
- 2:48then
- 2:48the
- 2:49third
- 2:49thing
- 2:49is
- 2:50what
- 2:50did
- 2:50we
- 2:51call
- 2:51doinks
- 2:52before
- 2:52we
- 2:52called
- 2:52them
- 2:53doinks.
- 2:54So
- 2:55that's
- 2:56kind
- 2:56of
- 2:56the
- 2:56gist
- 2:56of,
- 2:57of
- 2:57the,
- 2:57the
- 2:57tidbit.
- 2:58And
- 2:59so
- 2:59you
- 3:00know,
- 3:00when
- 3:00I
- 3:00go
- 3:01back
- 3:01and
- 3:02research
- 3:02the
- 3:03word
- 3:03doink
- 3:03in
- 3:04like
- 3:05the
- 3:05newspaper
- 3:05archives,
- 3:06anyways,
- 3:08most
- 3:08of
- 3:08the
- 3:08time,
- 3:09you
- 3:09know,
- 3:09the
- 3:10early
- 3:10doinks
- 3:11were
- 3:12appear
- 3:12to
- 3:12just
- 3:13be
- 3:13typos.
- 3:14You
- 3:14know,
- 3:14it's
- 3:15like
- 3:15somebody,
- 3:16you
- 3:16know,
- 3:17at
- 3:17the
- 3:17time,
- 3:17you
- 3:17know,
- 3:17there
- 3:18was
- 3:18somebody
- 3:18physically
- 3:19typing
- 3:20or
- 3:20setting
- 3:21the
- 3:21type,
- 3:21right.
- 3:22I
- 3:22mean
- 3:22they
- 3:22had
- 3:22to
- 3:22put
- 3:22in
- 3:23manually,
- 3:23put
- 3:24in
- 3:24all
- 3:24the
- 3:24letters.
- 3:25And
- 3:26so
- 3:26doink
- 3:27was
- 3:28oftentimes
- 3:29a
- 3:29misprint
- 3:30or
- 3:30a
- 3:30typo
- 3:32misset
- 3:33of
- 3:33a
- 3:33word
- 3:33like
- 3:34drink
- 3:36or
- 3:36doing.
- 3:37And
- 3:39so
- 3:39anyways,
- 3:40so
- 3:40we
- 3:40had
- 3:40doinks.
- 3:41But
- 3:41they
- 3:41had
- 3:41damn
- 3:41auto
- 3:42correct
- 3:42back
- 3:42in
- 3:42the
- 3:43day.
- 3:43No,
- 3:43not,
- 3:44not
- 3:44in
- 3:45the
- 3:45types,
- 3:45not
- 3:46when
- 3:46they
- 3:46were
- 3:46using
- 3:46those
- 3:46little
- 3:47lead,
- 3:47you
- 3:47know,
- 3:48pieces
- 3:48of
- 3:48type.
- 3:51But
- 3:51it
- 3:51would
- 3:51have
- 3:52been
- 3:52handy
- 3:52if
- 3:52they
- 3:52had.
- 3:53Yeah,
- 3:53that's
- 3:54for
- 3:54sure.
- 3:55So,
- 3:56so
- 3:57then,
- 3:58then
- 3:58doink,
- 3:59you
- 3:59know,
- 4:00sometime
- 4:00maybe
- 4:00the
- 4:011930s
- 4:01or
- 4:02so,
- 4:02then
- 4:02it
- 4:02kind
- 4:02of
- 4:03doink
- 4:04appears
- 4:04more
- 4:04often.
- 4:05And
- 4:05a
- 4:05lot
- 4:05of
- 4:05times
- 4:05it
- 4:05was
- 4:05in
- 4:06like
- 4:06cartoons
- 4:06where
- 4:07they're
- 4:07trying
- 4:08to
- 4:09use
- 4:10a,
- 4:11they're
- 4:11trying
- 4:11to
- 4:12make
- 4:13somebody
- 4:13who's
- 4:13like
- 4:13German
- 4:14or
- 4:14Eastern
- 4:14European,
- 4:15they're
- 4:15trying
- 4:16to
- 4:17apply
- 4:17their
- 4:17accent
- 4:18in
- 4:19a
- 4:19cartoon.
- 4:19And
- 4:20so
- 4:20the
- 4:20word
- 4:20doing,
- 4:21they
- 4:21also,
- 4:22they
- 4:22typically
- 4:23had
- 4:23them
- 4:23pronounce
- 4:24it
- 4:24doink.
- 4:25I
- 4:25don't,
- 4:25I've
- 4:26never
- 4:26really
- 4:26heard
- 4:26anybody
- 4:27use
- 4:27pronounce
- 4:28it
- 4:28that
- 4:28way.
- 4:28But
- 4:28anyways,
- 4:29that's
- 4:30what
- 4:30they
- 4:30did.
- 4:31And
- 4:31then
- 4:31by
- 4:32the
- 4:321960s,
- 4:33doink
- 4:34meant
- 4:36one.
- 4:36It
- 4:36was
- 4:36a
- 4:36sound
- 4:37that
- 4:37came
- 4:37when
- 4:38one
- 4:38object
- 4:39hit
- 4:39another
- 4:39and
- 4:39it
- 4:40could,
- 4:40there
- 4:40wasn't.
- 4:41It
- 4:41tended
- 4:41to
- 4:41be
- 4:42like
- 4:42something
- 4:42hollow
- 4:43hitting
- 4:43or
- 4:43something
- 4:43hitting
- 4:44something
- 4:44hollow.
- 4:44But
- 4:45it
- 4:45was
- 4:45all
- 4:45over
- 4:45the
- 4:45board.
- 4:47But
- 4:47it
- 4:47wasn't
- 4:47a
- 4:48very
- 4:48popular
- 4:48word,
- 4:49you
- 4:49know,
- 4:49throughout
- 4:49that
- 4:49whole
- 4:50time,
- 4:50you
- 4:50know,
- 4:51it
- 4:51was,
- 4:51wasn't
- 4:51a
- 4:52real
- 4:52popular
- 4:52word.
- 4:53And
- 4:53then
- 4:54all
- 4:54of
- 4:54a
- 4:54sudden
- 4:56John
- 4:57Madden,
- 4:58who
- 4:58was
- 4:58famous
- 4:59for
- 5:00using
- 5:00the
- 5:01all
- 5:01kinds
- 5:01of,
- 5:02you
- 5:02know,
- 5:02kind
- 5:02of
- 5:02bizarre
- 5:03expressions,
- 5:04right,
- 5:05he
- 5:05started
- 5:05using
- 5:06doink.
- 5:08But
- 5:08he,
- 5:08he
- 5:09used
- 5:09it
- 5:09to
- 5:10oftentimes
- 5:10to
- 5:11describe
- 5:13a
- 5:13really
- 5:13solid
- 5:14block
- 5:14or
- 5:14tackle,
- 5:15you
- 5:15know,
- 5:15like
- 5:15a
- 5:16really
- 5:16good
- 5:16massive
- 5:17hit
- 5:17that
- 5:17was
- 5:18a
- 5:18doink.
- 5:19And
- 5:20so
- 5:20that
- 5:20was
- 5:20all,
- 5:21you
- 5:21know,
- 5:21fine
- 5:21and
- 5:21good.
- 5:23But
- 5:23then
- 5:23in
- 5:23a
- 5:231986
- 5:24playoff
- 5:25game,
- 5:26the
- 5:26Giants
- 5:27had
- 5:27a
- 5:27kicker
- 5:28named
- 5:28John
- 5:28Schubert
- 5:29and
- 5:29he
- 5:29missed
- 5:30like
- 5:30eight
- 5:30of
- 5:30nine
- 5:31field
- 5:31goals
- 5:32in
- 5:32the
- 5:32playoffs.
- 5:34And
- 5:35one
- 5:35of
- 5:35them
- 5:36he
- 5:36missed
- 5:36a
- 5:3719
- 5:37yarder.
- 5:38And
- 5:38it
- 5:40hit
- 5:41the
- 5:41uprights.
- 5:42And
- 5:43in
- 5:44the
- 5:44instant
- 5:45replay
- 5:46of
- 5:46the,
- 5:46of
- 5:47that
- 5:47kick,
- 5:49Madden
- 5:50used
- 5:50the
- 5:50word
- 5:51doink
- 5:51to
- 5:52describe
- 5:53his
- 5:53kick
- 5:54hitting
- 5:54the
- 5:55upright.
- 5:55And
- 5:55then
- 5:56from
- 5:56that
- 5:56point
- 5:56on,
- 5:57you
- 5:57know,
- 5:57doink
- 5:57just
- 5:58became
- 5:59a
- 5:59word
- 5:59that
- 6:00was
- 6:00commonly
- 6:00used
- 6:01to
- 6:01describe
- 6:02hitting
- 6:02the
- 6:02uprights
- 6:03or
- 6:03hitting
- 6:03the
- 6:03crossbar.
- 6:04And
- 6:05I
- 6:05think
- 6:05kind
- 6:05of
- 6:05what
- 6:05I,
- 6:06what
- 6:06I
- 6:06like
- 6:06about
- 6:06him
- 6:07and
- 6:07maybe
- 6:07I
- 6:07think
- 6:07part
- 6:07of
- 6:08the
- 6:08attraction
- 6:08of
- 6:08the
- 6:09word
- 6:09doink
- 6:10and
- 6:11just
- 6:11the
- 6:11concept
- 6:11of
- 6:11doinks
- 6:12is
- 6:12that,
- 6:13you
- 6:13know,
- 6:13it
- 6:13just
- 6:14kind
- 6:14of
- 6:14reminds
- 6:14you
- 6:14that
- 6:15football,
- 6:16a
- 6:16game
- 6:16of
- 6:16football
- 6:17in
- 6:17a
- 6:18lot
- 6:18of
- 6:18sports,
- 6:18it
- 6:18just
- 6:18filled
- 6:19with
- 6:19all
- 6:19these
- 6:20chance
- 6:21happenings,
- 6:21right?
- 6:22Does
- 6:23somebody
- 6:23slip?
- 6:24Does
- 6:24the
- 6:24ball
- 6:25barely
- 6:25pop
- 6:25out
- 6:26of
- 6:26somebody's
- 6:26hand?
- 6:27Does
- 6:27the
- 6:27helmet
- 6:28hit
- 6:28the
- 6:28ball?
- 6:28And
- 6:28right,
- 6:29just
- 6:30right
- 6:30when,
- 6:30you
- 6:31know,
- 6:31making
- 6:31a
- 6:31tackle
- 6:31and
- 6:32fumble
- 6:33ensues,
- 6:33you
- 6:33know,
- 6:34so
- 6:34I
- 6:34mean,
- 6:34I
- 6:34just
- 6:35think
- 6:35there's
- 6:35as
- 6:36much
- 6:36as
- 6:36football
- 6:36Is
- 6:37planned
- 6:37and
- 6:37regimented
- 6:38game.
- 6:39There's
- 6:39just
- 6:39a
- 6:39lot
- 6:40of
- 6:41little
- 6:41things
- 6:41that
- 6:42might
- 6:42have
- 6:42gone
- 6:42the
- 6:43other
- 6:43way.
- 6:43And
- 6:43doinks
- 6:44are
- 6:44one
- 6:44of
- 6:45them
- 6:45because,
- 6:45you
- 6:45know,
- 6:45had
- 6:46the
- 6:46ball
- 6:46Dr.
- 6:47Just
- 6:47gone
- 6:47a
- 6:47little
- 6:47bit
- 6:48left
- 6:48or
- 6:48right
- 6:49or
- 6:49doinked
- 6:50and,
- 6:50you
- 6:50know,
- 6:50hit
- 6:50the
- 6:51crossbar
- 6:51and
- 6:51crossed
- 6:52over
- 6:52the,
- 6:52you
- 6:52know,
- 6:52or
- 6:53hit
- 6:53the
- 6:53upright
- 6:54and
- 6:54crossed
- 6:54over
- 6:54the
- 6:54crossbar,
- 6:55then
- 6:55it's
- 6:56a
- 6:56good
- 6:56doink,
- 6:57right,
- 6:57instead
- 6:58of
- 6:58a
- 6:58bad
- 6:58doink.
- 7:01So
- 7:01anyway,
- 7:01so
- 7:01that's
- 7:02kind
- 7:02of
- 7:02our,
- 7:03our
- 7:03modern
- 7:04use
- 7:04of
- 7:04doink.
- 7:05And.
- 7:06But
- 7:06I
- 7:06also
- 7:07wanted
- 7:07to
- 7:07look
- 7:07back
- 7:07and
- 7:08see.
- 7:08Okay,
- 7:08well,
- 7:09what
- 7:09did
- 7:10we
- 7:10call
- 7:10doinks
- 7:10before
- 7:11we
- 7:11called
- 7:11them
- 7:11doinks?
- 7:12And
- 7:13I,
- 7:13I
- 7:14don't
- 7:14know
- 7:14that,
- 7:15you
- 7:15know,
- 7:15for
- 7:15a
- 7:16lot
- 7:16of
- 7:16like
- 7:16the
- 7:1620th
- 7:17century,
- 7:17until
- 7:17Madden
- 7:18came
- 7:18along,
- 7:18I'm
- 7:18not
- 7:19sure
- 7:19we
- 7:19really
- 7:19had
- 7:19a
- 7:20term.
- 7:21But
- 7:21back
- 7:21in
- 7:22the
- 7:22day,
- 7:23like
- 7:24at
- 7:24really
- 7:24the
- 7:25origins
- 7:25of
- 7:26football,
- 7:261876,
- 7:29when
- 7:30they
- 7:30first,
- 7:31when
- 7:32the
- 7:32Intercollegiate
- 7:33Football
- 7:33association
- 7:34first
- 7:34approved
- 7:35the.
- 7:36Their
- 7:37rules,
- 7:38they
- 7:38basically
- 7:38almost
- 7:39verbatim
- 7:39adopted
- 7:40the
- 7:40rugby
- 7:40Union
- 7:41rules
- 7:41of
- 7:411876.
- 7:43And
- 7:43rule
- 7:44number
- 7:44five
- 7:46dealt
- 7:46with,
- 7:47you
- 7:47know,
- 7:47what
- 7:47constitutes
- 7:48a
- 7:48goal.
- 7:49And
- 7:50one
- 7:50of
- 7:50the
- 7:50things
- 7:50that
- 7:51that
- 7:51rule
- 7:51says
- 7:52is
- 7:52that
- 7:52if
- 7:53you,
- 7:53if
- 7:54the
- 7:54ball
- 7:55hits
- 7:55the
- 7:55crossbar
- 7:56or
- 7:57the
- 7:57goal
- 7:57post,
- 7:58it's
- 7:59not
- 7:59good.
- 8:00And
- 8:01that
- 8:01event
- 8:01is
- 8:02called
- 8:02a
- 8:02poster.
- 8:04So
- 8:05that's
- 8:05why
- 8:05the
- 8:05title
- 8:06says,
- 8:06you
- 8:06know,
- 8:07football's
- 8:07first
- 8:07doinks
- 8:08and
- 8:08posters.
- 8:08So
- 8:09early
- 8:10on.
- 8:10So.
- 8:11So
- 8:11it
- 8:11wasn't
- 8:11good
- 8:12even
- 8:12if
- 8:12it
- 8:12passed
- 8:13through
- 8:13the
- 8:14plane.
- 8:14Yeah.
- 8:15No
- 8:15matter
- 8:15what,
- 8:15if
- 8:16it
- 8:16hit
- 8:16the
- 8:16goal
- 8:16post
- 8:17at
- 8:17all,
- 8:17it
- 8:18was
- 8:18dead.
- 8:18Dead
- 8:18ball?
- 8:19Yep.
- 8:19Okay,
- 8:21well,
- 8:21actually
- 8:22originally
- 8:22I
- 8:22don't
- 8:22think
- 8:23it
- 8:23was
- 8:23a
- 8:23dead
- 8:23ball.
- 8:23It
- 8:24was
- 8:24still
- 8:24a
- 8:24live
- 8:24ball,
- 8:25but
- 8:25it
- 8:26just
- 8:26wasn't.
- 8:26It
- 8:26wasn't
- 8:27a
- 8:27goal,
- 8:27you
- 8:28know,
- 8:28whether,
- 8:28whether
- 8:28this
- 8:29is
- 8:29a
- 8:29kick
- 8:29from
- 8:29a
- 8:29goal
- 8:30from
- 8:30field
- 8:30or
- 8:32goal
- 8:32after
- 8:32touchdown.
- 8:35So
- 8:36anyway,
- 8:37so
- 8:37then
- 8:37I
- 8:37started
- 8:37looking.
- 8:37Okay,
- 8:38well,
- 8:38where
- 8:38did
- 8:38we,
- 8:39you
- 8:39know,
- 8:39could
- 8:39I
- 8:39find
- 8:40instances
- 8:41searching
- 8:42for
- 8:42like,
- 8:42you
- 8:42know,
- 8:43ball
- 8:43hits
- 8:44the
- 8:44crossbar,
- 8:44hits
- 8:45the
- 8:45upper,
- 8:45whatever,
- 8:46you
- 8:46know,
- 8:46hits
- 8:46the
- 8:46goalpost.
- 8:47And
- 8:47so
- 8:47I
- 8:48actually
- 8:48was.
- 8:49I
- 8:49found,
- 8:50you
- 8:50know,
- 8:50five
- 8:50instances
- 8:51and
- 8:51then
- 8:51I
- 8:51just
- 8:51stopped.
- 8:52So
- 8:521876,
- 8:53Princeton,
- 8:54Columbia,
- 8:54which
- 8:54actually
- 8:55was
- 8:56played
- 8:57a
- 8:57week
- 8:57before
- 8:58the
- 8:58IFA
- 8:59approved
- 8:59those
- 8:59rules.
- 9:01They
- 9:01had
- 9:01a
- 9:01poster.
- 9:02Right.
- 9:02So.
- 9:02But
- 9:03it
- 9:03was
- 9:03under
- 9:03rugby.
- 9:04You
- 9:04know,
- 9:04they
- 9:04played
- 9:04it
- 9:05under
- 9:05rugby
- 9:05rules,
- 9:05but
- 9:06it
- 9:06wasn't
- 9:06kind
- 9:06of
- 9:06official,
- 9:08but
- 9:08still,
- 9:09it
- 9:09didn't
- 9:10count.
- 9:11Now
- 9:12could
- 9:12they
- 9:12have
- 9:12been
- 9:13talking
- 9:13about
- 9:13that
- 9:14rule
- 9:14then
- 9:14because
- 9:14it
- 9:15was
- 9:15so
- 9:15fresh
- 9:15in
- 9:15their
- 9:16minds
- 9:16from
- 9:16happening
- 9:16the
- 9:17week
- 9:17before?
- 9:17Well,
- 9:18you
- 9:18know,
- 9:18I
- 9:18think
- 9:19they
- 9:19just.
- 9:20I
- 9:20think
- 9:20it
- 9:20was
- 9:20much
- 9:21more
- 9:21of
- 9:21a
- 9:21thing
- 9:21where,
- 9:21you
- 9:22know,
- 9:22they
- 9:22only
- 9:23made
- 9:23like
- 9:24three
- 9:24or
- 9:24four
- 9:24minor
- 9:25corrections
- 9:26to
- 9:26the
- 9:26rugby
- 9:26Union
- 9:27rules.
- 9:27Okay.
- 9:28And
- 9:28they
- 9:28added
- 9:29two
- 9:29other
- 9:29rules,
- 9:29you
- 9:30know,
- 9:31for
- 9:31American
- 9:31football.
- 9:32One
- 9:32is
- 9:32like
- 9:32to
- 9:32have
- 9:32a,
- 9:33a
- 9:33referee
- 9:34which,
- 9:35you
- 9:35know,
- 9:35rugby
- 9:36union
- 9:36just
- 9:36had
- 9:36captains
- 9:37making
- 9:37the
- 9:38decisions
- 9:38on
- 9:39fouls.
- 9:40So
- 9:40they
- 9:40did
- 9:40things
- 9:41like
- 9:41that.
- 9:41But
- 9:41pretty
- 9:42much,
- 9:42I
- 9:42mean,
- 9:42it's
- 9:42literally,
- 9:43if
- 9:44there's,
- 9:44you
- 9:44know,
- 9:45whatever,
- 9:45I'm
- 9:45making
- 9:45up
- 9:45a
- 9:45number,
- 9:46but
- 9:46if
- 9:46there's
- 9:462,000
- 9:47words
- 9:47in
- 9:47the
- 9:47rugby
- 9:48union
- 9:48rules
- 9:48of
- 9:48the
- 9:49time,
- 9:5119,
- 9:5250
- 9:52of
- 9:52them
- 9:53are
- 9:53the
- 9:53same
- 9:54as,
- 9:55as,
- 9:55you
- 9:55know,
- 9:56the
- 9:56football
- 9:56rules.
- 9:57And
- 9:57a
- 9:57lot
- 9:57of
- 9:58the
- 9:58changes
- 9:58were
- 9:58just
- 9:59changes
- 9:59in
- 10:00wording.
- 10:00Right?
- 10:00I
- 10:01mean,
- 10:01that.
- 10:01Okay,
- 10:02the
- 10:02Brits
- 10:02weren't
- 10:03that
- 10:03precise
- 10:04in,
- 10:05in
- 10:05their
- 10:05wording
- 10:06on
- 10:06some
- 10:06things.
- 10:06The
- 10:06Americans
- 10:07like
- 10:07to,
- 10:07you
- 10:07know,
- 10:07nail
- 10:07it
- 10:08down
- 10:08a
- 10:08little
- 10:08bit
- 10:08more.
- 10:10But
- 10:10anyways,
- 10:10you
- 10:11know,
- 10:11then
- 10:11there
- 10:11were,
- 10:12you
- 10:12know,
- 10:13the
- 10:14first
- 10:14four
- 10:15posters
- 10:15that
- 10:16I
- 10:16could
- 10:16find
- 10:16all
- 10:17involved
- 10:17Columbia.
- 10:18And
- 10:19then,
- 10:19you
- 10:19know,
- 10:19and
- 10:20it's
- 10:20like
- 10:201879,
- 10:211880,
- 10:211890,
- 10:2281.
- 10:23So
- 10:23anyways,
- 10:24so
- 10:24it's
- 10:24just,
- 10:25you
- 10:25know,
- 10:25the
- 10:26idea
- 10:26of.
- 10:26So
- 10:27they
- 10:27didn't
- 10:27call
- 10:27them
- 10:27doinks,
- 10:28but
- 10:28we
- 10:28had.
- 10:28They
- 10:28called
- 10:29them
- 10:29posters.
- 10:30But
- 10:31the
- 10:31reality
- 10:31is
- 10:32we
- 10:32had
- 10:32posters
- 10:33before
- 10:34football
- 10:34was
- 10:35football.
- 10:36Right.
- 10:36Because
- 10:37it
- 10:37was,
- 10:37it
- 10:37was
- 10:37part
- 10:37of
- 10:38rugby,
- 10:38you
- 10:38know,
- 10:38just
- 10:39like
- 10:39a
- 10:39lot
- 10:39of
- 10:39other
- 10:40things
- 10:41in
- 10:41the
- 10:41early
- 10:41part
- 10:41of
- 10:42the
- 10:42game.
- 10:43So
- 10:44doinks
- 10:44were
- 10:44posters.
- 10:45And
- 10:46then
- 10:46that
- 10:46term
- 10:47just
- 10:47kind
- 10:47of
- 10:47faded
- 10:47out.
- 10:48You
- 10:48know,
- 10:48it
- 10:48left
- 10:49the
- 10:49rules.
- 10:51They
- 10:51did
- 10:51change
- 10:52it
- 10:52so
- 10:52that
- 10:52if
- 10:52the
- 10:52ball
- 10:53went
- 10:53over
- 10:53the
- 10:53crossbar.
- 10:54And
- 10:54I
- 10:54can't
- 10:55remember
- 10:55when
- 10:55that
- 10:55happened,
- 10:56but
- 10:57so
- 10:58some,
- 10:58somewhere
- 10:59along
- 10:59the
- 10:59line
- 10:59we
- 11:00lost
- 11:00the
- 11:00word
- 11:01poster
- 11:02and
- 11:02we
- 11:03were
- 11:03left
- 11:03to
- 11:03Madden
- 11:04inventing
- 11:04the
- 11:04word
- 11:05doink
- 11:05or
- 11:06at
- 11:06least
- 11:06applying
- 11:06the
- 11:06word
- 11:07doink.
- 11:08Yeah,
- 11:08I
- 11:08didn't
- 11:09realize
- 11:09that
- 11:09until
- 11:10I
- 11:10read
- 11:10your
- 11:10article
- 11:10that
- 11:11Madden
- 11:11came
- 11:12up
- 11:12with
- 11:12it
- 11:12because
- 11:12the
- 11:12first
- 11:12time
- 11:13I
- 11:13think
- 11:13I
- 11:13became,
- 11:14I
- 11:14mean,
- 11:14I
- 11:14heard
- 11:15the
- 11:15word
- 11:15doink
- 11:15of
- 11:16course
- 11:16before,
- 11:16but
- 11:17maybe
- 11:17it
- 11:17was
- 11:17like,
- 11:17you
- 11:18know,
- 11:18in
- 11:18the
- 11:1860s
- 11:19when
- 11:19watching
- 11:20the
- 11:20old
- 11:20Adam
- 11:20West
- 11:21Batman
- 11:21things,
- 11:22you
- 11:22know,
- 11:22I
- 11:22mean,.
- 11:22That's
- 11:22one
- 11:22of
- 11:22the
- 11:22things
- 11:23that
- 11:23popped
- 11:23up.
- 11:23Wham,
- 11:23bam.
- 11:24Yeah,
- 11:24hit
- 11:25the
- 11:25penguin
- 11:25in
- 11:25the
- 11:25nose
- 11:26or
- 11:26something.
- 11:26Maybe
- 11:26doink.
- 11:27But
- 11:28I,
- 11:28I
- 11:29think
- 11:29when
- 11:29it
- 11:29really
- 11:29became
- 11:30connected
- 11:30to
- 11:31me
- 11:31anyway
- 11:31with
- 11:32football
- 11:32is
- 11:32the,
- 11:32the
- 11:33double
- 11:33doink
- 11:33that
- 11:34the
- 11:34Chicago
- 11:34Bears
- 11:35kicker
- 11:35had.
- 11:36I
- 11:36believe
- 11:36it
- 11:36was
- 11:36a
- 11:37big
- 11:37game.
- 11:37I
- 11:37don't
- 11:37know
- 11:37if
- 11:37I
- 11:37remember
- 11:38if
- 11:38it
- 11:38was
- 11:38a
- 11:38playoff
- 11:38game
- 11:39or
- 11:39I
- 11:39think
- 11:39it
- 11:39was
- 11:39in
- 11:39the
- 11:40playoffs.
- 11:40He
- 11:40had
- 11:40to
- 11:41double
- 11:41doink
- 11:41where
- 11:41he
- 11:41hit
- 11:42the,
- 11:42the
- 11:42post
- 11:42and
- 11:43then
- 11:43the
- 11:43crossbar
- 11:43and
- 11:44it
- 11:44bounced
- 11:44out
- 11:44and
- 11:45they
- 11:45end
- 11:45up
- 11:45losing
- 11:45the
- 11:45game
- 11:46over
- 11:46it.
- 11:46But
- 11:47that's
- 11:47then
- 11:48I've.
- 11:48Ever
- 11:48since
- 11:48then,
- 11:48it
- 11:48seems
- 11:49like
- 11:49it's
- 11:49been
- 11:49a
- 11:49lot
- 11:49more
- 11:50Popular,
- 11:50but
- 11:50I
- 11:50didn't
- 11:50realize
- 11:51that
- 11:51Madden
- 11:51said
- 11:51it
- 11:51way
- 11:52back
- 11:52in
- 11:521986.
- 11:53Yeah,
- 11:54I
- 11:54mean,
- 11:54all
- 11:54I
- 11:54can
- 11:55tell
- 11:55you,
- 11:55you
- 11:55know,
- 11:55I'm
- 11:55basing
- 11:56that
- 11:56on,
- 11:57you
- 11:57know,
- 11:57it
- 11:58doesn't
- 11:58appear
- 11:58in
- 11:59newspapers
- 12:00anyways
- 12:01until
- 12:01Madden
- 12:02says
- 12:02it.
- 12:02It,
- 12:02it
- 12:02sounds
- 12:03like
- 12:03a
- 12:03mad
- 12:03word,
- 12:03that's
- 12:04for
- 12:04sure.
- 12:06So
- 12:06anyways,
- 12:07he
- 12:07was,
- 12:07he
- 12:08was
- 12:08good
- 12:08for
- 12:08something
- 12:08and
- 12:09colorful
- 12:09language
- 12:10is
- 12:10one
- 12:10of
- 12:10them.
- 12:11Yeah,
- 12:11definitely.
- 12:12He
- 12:12definitely
- 12:12made
- 12:12the
- 12:13game
- 12:13more
- 12:13interesting
- 12:14and
- 12:14really
- 12:14inspired
- 12:15a,
- 12:15a
- 12:15generation
- 12:16of
- 12:16broadcasters.
- 12:17I
- 12:17think
- 12:17that
- 12:17still
- 12:17carries
- 12:18on
- 12:18to
- 12:18this
- 12:18day.
- 12:18You
- 12:19know,
- 12:19you
- 12:19still
- 12:19see
- 12:19elements
- 12:20from,
- 12:20from
- 12:20others
- 12:21trying
- 12:22to
- 12:22emulate
- 12:22him.
- 12:22So.
- 12:23Yeah,
- 12:23great,
- 12:23great
- 12:24stuff.
- 12:24Great
- 12:25research.
- 12:26You
- 12:26know,
- 12:26it
- 12:27always
- 12:27amazes
- 12:27me
- 12:28that
- 12:28you
- 12:28can
- 12:28go
- 12:29back
- 12:29in
- 12:30time
- 12:30and
- 12:31search
- 12:31all
- 12:31these
- 12:32words.
- 12:32I
- 12:32know
- 12:32there's
- 12:33search
- 12:33functions
- 12:34in
- 12:34Newspapers.com
- 12:35and
- 12:35other
- 12:37different
- 12:37resources,
- 12:38but
- 12:38still
- 12:38to
- 12:39find
- 12:39something
- 12:39like
- 12:39the
- 12:40word
- 12:40doink,
- 12:40you
- 12:40know,
- 12:41that's
- 12:41gotta
- 12:41be.
- 12:43That's
- 12:43amazing
- 12:43that
- 12:44you
- 12:44found
- 12:44that
- 12:44much.
- 12:45Well,
- 12:45there's
- 12:45other
- 12:45words
- 12:46that
- 12:46I
- 12:46look
- 12:46for
- 12:46that
- 12:46I
- 12:47never
- 12:47find
- 12:47and
- 12:47so
- 12:48then
- 12:48we
- 12:48don't
- 12:48do,
- 12:48I
- 12:48don't
- 12:49do
- 12:49tidbits
- 12:49about
- 12:49them.
- 12:52Well,
- 12:52you
- 12:52know,
- 12:52your
- 12:53research,
- 12:53you
- 12:54do
- 12:54some
- 12:54amazing
- 12:54things
- 12:55like
- 12:55that
- 12:55and
- 12:55maybe
- 12:56you
- 12:56could
- 12:56share
- 12:56with
- 12:57folks
- 12:57how
- 12:57they
- 12:57could,
- 12:58you
- 12:58know,
- 12:59pay
- 12:59attention
- 12:59and
- 13:00appreciate
- 13:01what
- 13:01you're
- 13:01doing
- 13:01on
- 13:01your
- 13:02research.
- 13:02Yeah,
- 13:03so
- 13:04I
- 13:04mean,
- 13:04I
- 13:04just
- 13:04published
- 13:06a
- 13:06couple
- 13:06times
- 13:06a
- 13:07week
- 13:07on
- 13:07Substack,
- 13:08so
- 13:09my,
- 13:09you
- 13:09know,
- 13:09addresses
- 13:10or
- 13:10your
- 13:11URL
- 13:11is
- 13:12www.footballarchaeology.com.
- 13:14So
- 13:14just
- 13:14go
- 13:15there,
- 13:15check
- 13:15it
- 13:16out.
- 13:16And
- 13:17I've
- 13:17been
- 13:17having
- 13:18some
- 13:18technical
- 13:19challenges
- 13:19of
- 13:20late
- 13:20with
- 13:20it.
- 13:21Hopefully
- 13:21they're
- 13:22resolved
- 13:22by
- 13:22the
- 13:22time
- 13:23anybody
- 13:23listens
- 13:23to
- 13:24this
- 13:25podcast.
- 13:25But
- 13:26anyways,
- 13:27that's,
- 13:27that's
- 13:28the
- 13:28way
- 13:28to,
- 13:28to
- 13:28find
- 13:29it
- 13:29and
- 13:29just
- 13:29subscribe.
- 13:30And
- 13:31if
- 13:31you
- 13:31do,
- 13:31you'll
- 13:32get
- 13:32a,
- 13:32get
- 13:33an
- 13:33email
- 13:33every
- 13:33time
- 13:33that
- 13:34I
- 13:34publish
- 13:34a
- 13:34new
- 13:34article
- 13:34with
- 13:35the
- 13:35article
- 13:35in
- 13:36the
- 13:36email.
- 13:36So
- 13:37yeah.
- 13:38And
- 13:38folks,
- 13:38if
- 13:38you
- 13:39want
- 13:39to
- 13:39find
- 13:39more
- 13:39on
- 13:40this
- 13:41tidbit
- 13:41that
- 13:41Tim
- 13:41wrote
- 13:42about,
- 13:42you
- 13:42know,
- 13:42just
- 13:42on
- 13:43your
- 13:43YouTube,
- 13:43just
- 13:44go
- 13:44down
- 13:44in
- 13:44the
- 13:44show
- 13:45notes
- 13:45here.
- 13:45We
- 13:45have
- 13:45the
- 13:46URL
- 13:46available
- 13:46for
- 13:47you
- 13:47if
- 13:47you're
- 13:47listening
- 13:47on
- 13:48the
- 13:48podcast,
- 13:48go
- 13:48the
- 13:48show
- 13:49notes
- 13:49on
- 13:49there.
- 13:49Get
- 13:50you
- 13:50a
- 13:50link
- 13:50right
- 13:50to
- 13:50Tim's
- 13:51thing
- 13:51and
- 13:52any
- 13:52images
- 13:52and
- 13:53his,
- 13:54his
- 13:54colorful
- 13:54literary
- 13:56storytelling
- 13:56is
- 13:57there
- 13:57as
- 13:57well.
- 13:58As
- 13:58long
- 13:58as
- 13:59his
- 13:59other,
- 13:59you
- 13:59know,
- 14:00billion
- 14:01and
- 14:01zillions
- 14:01of
- 14:02articles
- 14:02he
- 14:03has.
- 14:03Footballarchaeology.com
- 14:05and
- 14:05Tim,
- 14:06we
- 14:06really
- 14:06appreciate
- 14:06you
- 14:06coming
- 14:07on,
- 14:07talking
- 14:07about
- 14:07this
- 14:08again
- 14:08and
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