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110: My Nickname With Bill Lawrence · Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Dude, how is that Beastie I'm great, what's that Beastie
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  Speaker 1: Boys song? It's like Intergalactic now. Someone told yeah, and
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: someone told me that if you listen closely, you can
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  Speaker 1: hear Intergalactic, Kill the children, Kill the children, and Turgalactic.
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, once you hear that, you will forever
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  Speaker 1: hear it. When you listen to that song, I want
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  Speaker 1: you listeners, I don't this podcast.
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  Speaker 2: You will hear when young children.
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: You know, when someone points something out to you, and
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  Speaker 1: then you can never not hear it that way.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it's like it's like listening to that song. Sir
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  Speaker 2: shut dicy sat so shut.
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  Speaker 3: They put on the interweb on like memes and stuff.
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  Speaker 3: They give you fake lyrics, and it really sounds like
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  Speaker 3: these people are saying that.
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  Speaker 1: Bill Bill Lawrence arrived in the zoom call everybody Intergalactic,
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  Speaker 1: kill the children, Kill the children.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like that.
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  Speaker 4: I don't like it either, But the Beastie Boys did.
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  Speaker 2: It Donald, They did not do that.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not one of the Beastie Boys.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm a huge fan of the Beastie Boys, and
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  Speaker 3: I refuse to believe that they killed children or that
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  Speaker 3: they want you to kill children in an intergalactic planetary way.
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  Speaker 1: Intergalactic kill the children, kill the children, and here's Lawrence.
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  Speaker 5: Everybody, you guys watch the Beastie Boys documentary.
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  Speaker 2: Not yet.
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  Speaker 3: I really want to watch it, though it's on my
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  Speaker 3: to do list. I'm stuck on the right now.
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  Speaker 5: I'm watching you know who really likes The Beastie Boys
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  Speaker 5: a lot? The Beastie Boys.
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  Speaker 6: Documentary.
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  Speaker 5: And then we did this great thing.
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  Speaker 6: Bill.
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  Speaker 1: I imagine you as a sports fan. You're watching the
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  Speaker 1: the the that's the one.
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  Speaker 2: I'm stuck on.
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  Speaker 4: The Bulls.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, oh my gosh. This but Bill, doesn't this remind
• 2:01
  Speaker 3: you of why you love Michael Jordan so much when
• 2:05
  Speaker 3: you were younger? Like, this makes me realize why he
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  Speaker 3: was one of my idols growing up.
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  Speaker 4: Even I had the poster.
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  Speaker 1: Guys, I want you to know that I had a
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  Speaker 1: poster of him in my room because I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: be cool too. Every kid that age, our age at
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  Speaker 1: that time had the Michael Jordan poster, And even though
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  Speaker 1: I didn't watch any of it, I was like, well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna need one of those.
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  Speaker 5: There is nothing funnier than you with a Michael Jordan poster.
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  Speaker 1: It was right next to a Phantom of the opera
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  Speaker 1: Beach Towel. My father bought me a Phantom of the
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  Speaker 1: opera beach Towel, and you were supposed.
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  Speaker 4: To use it at the beach. And I was like,
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  Speaker 4: this is art. I will hang this on my wall.
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  Speaker 1: And I took thumbtacks and hung it like a tapestry,
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  Speaker 1: like like a really precious, rare tapestry. It was a
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  Speaker 1: fan of the opera beach towel. And right next to
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  Speaker 1: that was Michael Jordan dunking with his tongue out. So
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  Speaker 1: there you go. I was in.
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  Speaker 5: Should I start this voice memo?
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  Speaker 2: Now?
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  Speaker 5: Guys?
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  Speaker 1: All right, well you should have.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Zach forgot the the other day.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I fucked up. I hear that.
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  Speaker 5: I was the only one I haven't heard. I haven't
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  Speaker 5: heard Judy Is yet because I fell asleep last night.
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  Speaker 1: It's so good. Judy was a man.
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  Speaker 2: She was great.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, we forgot to sing, We forgot to sing Bill
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  Speaker 1: save five, six, seven, eight.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, I've always wanted to do this. Wait, is is
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  Speaker 5: it going to be at the end or oh?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, the audience wait in Bill.
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  Speaker 1: Thousands of people did an online Twitter poll and decided
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  Speaker 1: that the mm HM stays.
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  Speaker 5: All right, well I'm gonna do oh yeah, because that's
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  Speaker 5: what it is in my head five six, seven, eight.
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  Speaker 3: Stories about show we made about a bunch of dogs
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  Speaker 3: and nurses.
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  Speaker 2: He said, he's the stories natural. So gada ra here,
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  Speaker 2: YadA ra here.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Bill, you're the very first for the obvious reasons,
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  Speaker 1: you're the very first asked we've invited back.
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  Speaker 2: He's our recurring.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, you're recurring, Bill.
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  Speaker 1: Just just how you had the power to make characters
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  Speaker 1: on Scrubs re reccurring. We bon Donald and I have
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  Speaker 1: have the power to make you the creator of the
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  Speaker 1: show recurring, and we've chosen you.
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  Speaker 5: Oh I like that. It makes it makes me feel
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  Speaker 5: like it's tenuous, like I could lose this at any second.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but you can fuck up and be cut anytime,
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  Speaker 4: you know what.
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  Speaker 3: Speaking of reoccurring, Uh, it's it has a lot to
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  Speaker 3: do with the episode.
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  Speaker 2: But Yo, how where did you? Where did you find Rob?
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  Speaker 2: How did that happen?
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  Speaker 4: What's the Rob story?
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  Speaker 1: Bill? Because we've had versions of this.
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  Speaker 2: How did you find Rob? Who plays the Todd Everyone?
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  Speaker 1: All my laugh out loud moments in this episode were Rob.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm embarrassed to say that because they're the dumbest
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  Speaker 1: fucking sex jokes. But every time I always write down
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  Speaker 1: lo ol, just so I can mark when I actually
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  Speaker 1: laughed out loud.
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  Speaker 4: And they were all Robs.
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  Speaker 5: Rob was an actor that got cast in a play
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  Speaker 5: that I wrote, and so I got to know him,
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  Speaker 5: and he was a stand up comic and his performance
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  Speaker 5: was always better than his material because he was just,
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  Speaker 5: you know, had crazy amounts of confidence and I just
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  Speaker 5: got to be buddies with him, playing basketball and hanging out.
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  Speaker 5: And my wife always says that I ruined his life
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  Speaker 5: because Rob went to Columbia and I think he was
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  Speaker 5: thinking about doing other things besides acting, And right then
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  Speaker 5: I said, I'm doing the Scrubs pilot. You want to
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  Speaker 5: be the jockey surgeon. He might have a line here
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  Speaker 5: and there. I think the line had Rob had one
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  Speaker 5: line in every episode for nine years.
• 5:37
  Speaker 1: And then.
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  Speaker 5: You know, and after that, I think, you know, he
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  Speaker 5: was a guy that had been doing it so long
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  Speaker 5: it was too late to reinvent himself and to start
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  Speaker 5: over as anything other than an actor. But this says
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  Speaker 5: a very good ending because he's a hugely he's still
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  Speaker 5: the Todd and he has a hugely successful real estate
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  Speaker 5: business in Venice, California, and is killing it out there.
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  Speaker 5: And he's still occasionally though, dyes his hair black, puts
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  Speaker 5: the fake tattoo on, and goes to like European comic
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  Speaker 5: cons as the Todd And he's got to pay people
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  Speaker 5: pay him for high fives.
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  Speaker 1: And he's got his cameo business, which you can get
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  Speaker 1: him to cameo all your friends if you go.
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  Speaker 3: And if I were hiring Rob to do a Todd appearance,
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  Speaker 3: he'd have to be in the banana hammock like I'd be,
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  Speaker 3: and you have.
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  Speaker 4: To probably costs extra.
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  Speaker 1: Donald. That probably costs extra.
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  Speaker 5: I would probably cost ever extra.
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  Speaker 7: And now he probably needs about a six month lead
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  Speaker 7: time on.
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  Speaker 5: That to start starving himself.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, if you need a real estate, if
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  Speaker 1: you need a real estate broker in southern California, especially
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  Speaker 1: down at the beach, hire Rob Mashio, because I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: he'd be willing to give you a high five while
• 6:48
  Speaker 1: he shows you places. In Venice.
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  Speaker 5: There is, without a doubt way to buy a house
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  Speaker 5: from me high five out there for someone.
• 6:55
  Speaker 1: You could buy a house and get a high five
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  Speaker 1: from Robin, surell throw it in with the yeah, I.
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  Speaker 5: Don't even think you have to pay extra for that.
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  Speaker 5: But he couldn't be. It couldn't be a nicer guy.
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  Speaker 5: Loved the show. I used to love how passionate he
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  Speaker 5: was about it. And you guys made the joke because
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  Speaker 5: he would have one line and he would be running
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  Speaker 5: it over and over. And it's still one of my
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  Speaker 5: favorite jokes. Rob's over there running line.
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  Speaker 4: Running singular. He would take it.
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  Speaker 1: He would take it so seriously, and we were laughing
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  Speaker 1: with him because he would laugh at it with us.
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  Speaker 1: But he would be like over there in the corner
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  Speaker 1: being like high five, high five, fine.
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  Speaker 2: Working it out, but I mean, come on, always delivered.
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  Speaker 1: He's so fucking funny man. It's it's always the same joke.
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  Speaker 1: But that's another testament to Rob. It's like, it's always
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  Speaker 1: an innuendo joke. It's the same joke, and it's always
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  Speaker 1: in a sexual innuendo joke. But I but a testament
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  Speaker 1: to you and him. I laugh every fucking time.
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  Speaker 5: You by the way, you you just nailed. I believe
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  Speaker 5: it might be you know, old war in history, But
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  Speaker 5: my favorite Todd joke I think came from a one
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  Speaker 5: a month. I think it was Neil Goldman and I
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  Speaker 5: hate giving him a name check because he wants them
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  Speaker 5: so bad.
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  Speaker 1: I know. I saw Neil Goman wrote on Twitter. He's like,
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  Speaker 1: there's been six episodes. I've been mentioned once.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know, but the I think it was. I
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  Speaker 7: think it was him.
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  Speaker 5: I think someone of the writer's room said, is every
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  Speaker 5: time the Todd talks just going to be sexual innuendo?
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  Speaker 5: And I think he's the one that said in your end,
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  Speaker 5: in your.
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  Speaker 3: Endo, he has the best line. He has the best
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  Speaker 3: line in this episode. It made me laugh so hard
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  Speaker 3: when he says it's one of my l O l's bet.
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  Speaker 2: I bet you it is. When he goes, you know
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  Speaker 2: what else? You know what else?
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  Speaker 5: Remember, I think it's I'm not sure, Todd, but I'm
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  Speaker 5: gonna guess it's your penis.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Todd, I'm not sure, but I'm gonna guess it's
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  Speaker 1: your penis.
• 9:01
  Speaker 4: And it was now Bill Bill in your mind? Is
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  Speaker 4: he a good surgeon? Yeah?
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  Speaker 8: I don't know if you remember, if you guys have
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  Speaker 8: gotten there yet, no, we're only on this one ten.
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  Speaker 8: One of my favorite moments that the writer's room all
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  Speaker 8: loved was because we had read something about how surgeons
• 9:20
  Speaker 8: are just cutters. You know, medical guys call them hammers
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  Speaker 8: and the patient and nail, and if they get too
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  Speaker 8: caught up in their head, they sometimes aren't as good.
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  Speaker 5: And that gave us the idea for Turk's character. Asked
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  Speaker 5: doctor when who the best surgeon is, thinking it would
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  Speaker 5: be that young girl Bonnie or whatever her name is,
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  Speaker 5: and doctor Wenn says, you really want to know who
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  Speaker 5: it is, and he points at the Todd and you say,
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  Speaker 5: no way. And then doctor Wenn says, you're all caught
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  Speaker 5: up in your brain thinking about all these problems. You
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  Speaker 5: know what Todd's doing, and they cut to Todd and surgery.
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  Speaker 5: We actually paid for the Bonanza theme because he's just
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  Speaker 5: he's just looking at all his instruments. He's going tiny Scalpel.
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  Speaker 1: Was like, it's he's still present in the moment because
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  Speaker 1: his mind isn't getting distracted. He's just like, yeah, he's.
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  Speaker 5: Got nothing to distract it. It's like somebody. It's like,
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  Speaker 5: it's like how somebody that's not that bright could be
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  Speaker 5: great at the video game. That's Todd.
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  Speaker 3: Let's talk about Bonnie because we mentioned it earlier that
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  Speaker 3: she was supposed to be my nemesis at one point
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  Speaker 3: right like that was supposed to.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, we we she got another gig.
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  Speaker 2: She was good.
• 10:34
  Speaker 5: She would have stayed around the same way Doug did,
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  Speaker 5: in the same way other you know, JD. Had Doug
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  Speaker 5: on the medical side, she would have been the person
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  Speaker 5: that stayed around on the surgical side. But she got
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  Speaker 5: another gig.
• 10:45
  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 5: That's why we we sent her off on that trip
• 10:49
  Speaker 5: and came up with that story only because we knew
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  Speaker 5: she was not going to be around to work for
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  Speaker 5: a while.
• 10:55
  Speaker 3: That's always tough, man, that has to be difficult. Like
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  Speaker 3: when we talk about the people that have him through
• 11:00
  Speaker 3: the show, and you know, like A. Z's and all
• 11:03
  Speaker 3: of these other people, it's like, you know, if they
• 11:06
  Speaker 3: weren't bubbling and doing their thing at the time, they
• 11:09
  Speaker 3: would have been staples on the show for years, to doubt.
• 11:12
  Speaker 5: Man, even Charles Chung disappeared for a second because he
• 11:16
  Speaker 5: got some pilot or movie and stuff. And we loved
• 11:18
  Speaker 5: having that dude around. He's just a really kind of
• 11:21
  Speaker 5: you know meet and Potato's good actor, you know, and uhu.
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: And he was a good straight man too for Donald
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: because he was just so good at deadpan, you know,
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: and Donald could be like wacky Turk and he was
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  Speaker 1: just perfect like we had.
• 11:34
  Speaker 5: You can keep listening him. Remember, Neil and Garrett called
• 11:36
  Speaker 5: them our weapons chest, and those were one line characters
• 11:41
  Speaker 5: that we thought were so very funny that not just
• 11:45
  Speaker 5: Ted the lawyer and Aloma, you know, Nurse Roberts, but
• 11:48
  Speaker 5: like doctor Zeltzer, you know.
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: And Bob, yeah, way, Bob Clennen, who's yet to make
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: an appearance. I don't know if he arrives in season
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: one or not, but you introduced me to Bob Clint
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: Dennon on the show and he played Zeltzer, and I
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  Speaker 1: just thought that is one of the funniest character actors
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  Speaker 1: I've ever met. I've put him in, I put him
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: in a bunch of stuff since because I just love
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: that guy.
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  Speaker 5: He's uh, he's amazing, you know him and Sam Lloyd
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  Speaker 5: and uh, Krista and Aloma. I mean, they could all
• 12:18
  Speaker 5: be regulars on any show.
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: And so it was.
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: Though of like you'd have like your guest star level,
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: like Krista, and then you'd have like the Aloma level
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: who were like and then you'd have people used to
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: call your assassins who would just come by once in
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: a while and they do like a drive by one
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: liner and just kill it like and and Bob Clintennon
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: was one of those. He was as REGOs will there
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: will there be prostitutes.
• 12:47
  Speaker 5: He would just be my favorite part of that joke.
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  Speaker 5: You love that. My favorite was doctor Cox going no
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  Speaker 5: and Bob's readA poe good.
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  Speaker 1: No, oh good good.
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  Speaker 5: He was not worried about it at all. He was hopeful.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, Bill, I thought we could start off since we
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: have you, and I was thinking today because I did,
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: because you're here, and I put on a nice shirt.
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: I was telling him before you got on that because
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: we had you, I put on a nice shirt. And
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: I actually did a lot of preparation for this episode.
• 13:21
  Speaker 5: I'll watched it last night too. I'm ready.
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  Speaker 4: It's very very good.
• 13:24
  Speaker 2: First, it was such a great episode.
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: Dude, Judy fucking Raly, we gotta do you guys got
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: to carry one torch for me beforehand.
• 13:32
  Speaker 5: The only thing that really bummed me out about this
• 13:34
  Speaker 5: episode and all my experiences is when I catch up
• 13:36
  Speaker 5: with you guys, unless I want to pop a DVD
• 13:39
  Speaker 5: and I watch on Hulu. And the song that Christa
• 13:42
  Speaker 5: picked at the end of this episode was so good,
• 13:45
  Speaker 5: and it was it's not you know, the original music
• 13:47
  Speaker 5: is not on these episodes and streaming and it bums
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  Speaker 5: me out and.
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: I heard you. We keep telling the audience that, And
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: just to reiterate if you're just hearing this, not that
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: we don't love Hulu, but we do love whoo. But
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: we love you Hulu. But because of streaming rights and
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: contracts and such, you're not gonna get all of the
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: original songs that that Bill and Christa and others placed it, Zach.
• 14:10
  Speaker 5: And the ending song of this in the rain was
• 14:14
  Speaker 5: a song by a band called Sebadoh, and it was
• 14:16
  Speaker 5: so good and so poignant in the real production of it.
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: Speaking of music, we used it so much.
• 14:24
  Speaker 4: Here that's in this episode right, definitely in.
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: This episode, and it's kind of new in the scrubs.
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  Speaker 3: It's like the second time we've used it.
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  Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. But when it
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: came on, it pissed me off so much. It was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: you ruined it with the what's funny.
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: What's funny is like back when they back when they
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: introduced that sad c this was like, you know, this
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: was like, you know, a tenth episode of season one,
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  Speaker 1: it was genuinely like sweet and heartfelt. Now that we
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: did nine seasons and then started to make fun of it,
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: now when it's like in a point you moment.
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: You're like, oh, not that fucking sad. This is the
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: same time.
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  Speaker 3: This is the second time, this is the second time.
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  Speaker 3: I remember when it finally caught my attention, I was like,
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: how come it fucking keeps going? Because at first I
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: was like, oh, such a beautiful moment for so long,
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: for so long, and then somebody was like, dude, the
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: sad song, We gotta figure that out.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: I think it was you Bill that said that it's gotta.
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: Go all in our head. All those cues were the
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: stuff that's happening in Zach's head, Zach's character's head while
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: he's roomming around, you know.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: So then you ended up doing a moment where in
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: one of the episodes where I actually referenced the cue, well.
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: You say, what do you mean now? Is when you
• 15:36
  Speaker 5: say something poignant it makes me think about it, And
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: then the sad music plays.
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: And then you hear me, you hear me in the
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: voiceover go.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: And then I think, and then and then you geniusly
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: fucking then use the queue out of that scene. Now
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: it's so fun.
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he walks away and says you're an idiot, and
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: it goes. The real cue goes, but ma uh and
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: then then you lip sync the last one you.
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: I thought that.
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: I think that guy's name is Jan Stevens, and I
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: think he won a bunch of score awards for our show.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: I don't think he was happy when you were like,
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: I don't like the anymore.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: I want to hold He understood, he got it.
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: That guy got it.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: He that he got to write, by the way, just
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: right hard, very hard assignment, just like you guys.
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: Are joking about yourself, as with anybody that was a
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: dude that worked his butt off, Oh my god here
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: for years and then when you get later in it,
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: you'd be like, hey, we need a queue four, and
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: your inbox will go how about this one? Just be
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: literally he was like one hand on his keyboard when
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: you said I need a que just going bomb bomb
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: bum bum bum. There you go done, I'm gonna head
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: out to the park.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: What's funny was that? There? You know, when there's these
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: things called stings, which are really quick little moments. They're
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: all over scrubs and and uh, and funny one. Yeah.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: Jan would write one like hey, we need some stings
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: for the end of the scene, and you get one
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: to be like bow and you're like boom. But we'd
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: use them. It was like big scrub scene and bow.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: I thought, I thought, because we have you here and
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: and and we're really we're really not We're not only
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: entertaining the audience, but we want to provide a service
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: so that you could explain a little bit about what
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: a showrunner does. Because I was thinking as we were
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: having you on today that I honestly think I've done
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: a bunch of different jobs in my career. I think
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: a showrunner is the hardest job there is. And it's
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: dovetails with this episode because this is about taking on
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: too much workload and being stressed and being overwhelmed, particularly
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: for the character of Joe Tracy and Sarah Chalk. And
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: I just I thought you could explain to people that
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: aren't in the business, uh, what a show what a
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: showrunner is, what a show runner does, and why it's
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: such a fucking impossibly hard job.
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: Well, so it was here, what's interesting, man, Hollywood. The
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: first thing that you know, even when you're a kid,
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: if you like movies and TV and stuff like that,
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: is that you know that feature films are a director's industry.
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: We have all gone like, oh, it's a Martin Scorsese movie,
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: it's a Steven Spielberg movie, no matter who wrote it,
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: you know, and the directors get to do it. They
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: want the script and they cast it, and they argue
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: for final cut. And what's really interesting is in TV,
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: directors come and go week to week, and so the
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: person that creates the show, the head writer, often becomes
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: an event of the term for it, the showrunner. And
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: it's why I think, and I'm not being self aggrandizing,
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: I'm talking about other people, not myself, some of the
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: best writers in entertainment stay in television because in WEST
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: you're the movie director. In movies you're like, hey, you
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: give us the script and then we'll do whatever we
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: want to it. And in TV they go, all right,
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: if we decide to do your TV show, you get
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: to cast it, you get to write it, you get
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: final cut, the music. You're in charge of the director,
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: so that you can come down and say, no, I
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: don't like the way this scene is blocked. It's gonna
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: be funnier if you do it this way and you
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: get to run the whole shebang, right, And so that's
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: really appealing. The danger of the job is since they said, essentially,
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: if you're the showrunner, you can do everything. The people
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: whose brains explode are the ones that go, all right,
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna do all those things, but I'm also going
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: to do wardrobe, and I'm also going to stand on
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: set and make sure no one changes and to also
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: and I'm also going to do props, and I'm gonna
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: do you know. And those are the people that sometimes
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: they melt. Sometimes they're viewed as kind of tyrants, you know,
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: Like you know, Aaron Sorkin, I think would be one
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: of the first people to tell you that he's hard
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: to work with and for because you know, every last
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: detail you know drives him banana pants and the job.
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: The hard part of the job become whether or not
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: you can go of control and seed some things to
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: talented people. And I was lucky enough that we had
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: so many talented people there, like Carrie Bennett, the head
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: of wardrobe. She's done a lot of shows for me
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: after that. If I was somebody that needed to look
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: at every T shirt, every outfit, I think I would
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: have you not made it, that would have burnt out quicker.
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: But I was lucky and said, hey, you do this,
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: and I'll only say a word if I think it's wrong,
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: And then I never had to say anything, so to me, yes,
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: that's what the gig is great. It forces you to
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: pick the things that you prioritize the most personally and
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: not get lost in the things you don't care about
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: and the people that drown. Try to do everything.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: But even in not micromanaging Bill, in a typical hour,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: you are leading a writer's room, then being called to
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: set to watch a rehearsal for the scene being shot,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: then needing to go to editorial to look at a
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: cut that has to go out to the network.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Doing rewrites if jokes don't work right.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, I just remember watching you and thinking, God,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, and it takes a person who can multitask
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: without going fucking nuts, because it's just a lot of pressure.
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: The herd, believe it or not. The hardest part for me,
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: and I had a little of it with YouTube, but
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: more with the writers is you also become, if not
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: a big brother, you know, a parent and a psychiatrist
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: to people and The joke was, you know, a lot
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: of the writers stayed for five, six, seven, even eight years.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: On Scrubs, which is unheard of. I didn't know it
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: was a good gig. Yeah, I didn't know.
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: You take off, but if you're on a hit show,
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: you stay and your salary goes up every year. And
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: the joke was that by the end, every single writer
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: had been in my office emotional, crying about something, you
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: know what I mean. And Zach and Donald, you guys
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: can't see them, they're laughing because I think they both
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: inherently know that I'm the last person on earth that
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: wants somebody to be in his office.
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: We turned you into a hugger, Bill Bilt, Donald and I.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: I remember when you didn't hoddle then Donald, dude, Donald
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: and I broke you down.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: You were finally like, yo, dude, come on, let's hug
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: and I was.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, Donald and I broke him down. He was
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: not a hugger. He was a very waspy Connecticut guy.
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: Oh.
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: They used to always make fun of He think, come
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: in with some emotional thing of work or life or whatever,
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: and I would subconsciously, with all the things on my desk,
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: build a wall between the two that almost nuts. What's
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: going on with you and your uh and your your boyfriend?
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, do that?
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: And you had to do that with with everyone.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: And also I think you know, you started on Spin
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: City where you were you were young, and you had,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: you know, a legend like Michael J. Fox to to
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: work with and to make sure he was happy. And
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: then when when Scrubs came on, we were all unknown.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Did you feel a little bit of uh an onus
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: to keep everyone's egos in check? I mean I would,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: I would think that.
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I really wanted to keep people's egos in check
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: because in between, you know, I had seen, you know,
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: how hard it is when certain things hit you. You know,
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: I was on the first year of Friends, and I
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: actually empathized with that actors and actresses because watching how
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: you know that group of the air kids, how their
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: lives all change so fast, sometimes to the better, and
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: you know, you guys know this burden nothing to complain about,
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: but sometimes in complicated ways. So yeah, it was it
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: was really important to me to have a good culture
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: at work, to keep everybody's egos from blowing up. And
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: I'm not you know, I don't uh to equate it
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: to sports because we were talking about the Michael Jordan thing.
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: No I'm not Michael Jordan, but to be a leader
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: for a group of people that they at least knew
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: there were levels of respect you had to have for
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: each other and ways you're supposed to behave and that
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: somebody would watch your back.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: You know, you might not be a Michael Jordan, but
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: I think of you like a Mike Kaminsky.
• 23:43
  Speaker 7: Donald and I are basketball guys. It's such an insult man.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: That is the problem is is that that's the only
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: basketball guy he knows.
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: No.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Listen, when my father of a certain age, my father
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: would drag me to the New Jersey Nets games and
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: so I only know whatever year that was, that team,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Darryl Dawkins, Mike Jaminsky, otis Bird's song. So whenever I
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: have to make a basketball reference, I'm still like, oh,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: you mean, like otis Bird's song?
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: Do you know?
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: Do you know Darryl Dawkins uh nickname?
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah? It does. Wait, he doesn't top the thunder thunder
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: and backwards.
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: Yes, And you know why I care because there was
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: a pitch that we were really trying to do. I
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: don't don't know why we got bogged down in it,
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: but it lived for the better part of two years.
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: That everybody wanted Darryl Dawkins to be nurse Robert sex husband.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: That would have been awesome.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: Oh man, God rest his soul, but that would have
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: been awesome if he was on the show.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: That would have been the best day that would have been.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: That would have been a highlight for me. Oh my.
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: It was so like, it sucks because it breaks. It
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: sounds like it breaks down on male female dynamics because
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: there's a lot of guy sports fans in there. But
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: it was one of those things that a lot of
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: the great female writers on that show were like, I
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: don't understand. Why do you want this former seven foot
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: tall NBA that would have been perfect that they called
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: Chocolate Thunder to be your exit.
• 25:04
  Speaker 7: He's not even an actor, right, He's not an actor?
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: Is no? He breaks he breaks backboards?
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Why was?
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: Why am I right with the trivia that he was
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: famous for breaking backwards?
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: And why was why did he do that? And how
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: could he do that?
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: He didn't do it in person. He used to the Thunder.
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: He used to dunk so hard that occasionally when he
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: would dunk, even just with a rubber basketball. He would
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: leather basketball. It would shatter the backboard.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he was the first one. Yeah, he would
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: do it in games.
• 25:34
  Speaker 7: It wouldn't would go nuts. They'd have to sweep it
• 25:37
  Speaker 7: up and put a new one up.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: It was really crazy because when Shaq broke the backboard,
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: he just made the backboard fall to the ground, you
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like the whole thing came down
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: chocolate thunder.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: When he hit the rim, that thing exploded like the
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: death Star. Dude. It was like wow.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: It was such a his he has like two or
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: three of them, I think two, but they were so
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: thunderous and monstrous.
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: Man.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: And when he did it was so hard.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: And this was you know, basketball is a finesse game,
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: and you know it's a it's a it's a game
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: of you know where athletes they run real hard and
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: then they go at this little cup and it's so like,
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: you know, graceful and everything like that. There was no
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: grace in the way he slammed a basketball, you know
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: what I mean. It was like wow, you know what
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: I said, You.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Know what I mean? I heard it.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: Yes, drink wow, drink.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Up, Bill, Bill Bill. The fans have started a drinking
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: game because Donald says, you know what I mean so
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: much that they're drinking every time he says you know
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: what I mean, I.
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: Would force people by the way. I want to say
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: two things.
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: One to that.
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: One of the things, you guys can see the connection
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: to how much fun it would have been for JD
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: to want to call Turk, as one of his many nicknames,
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: Chocolate Thunder. And then Nurse Roberts doesn't like it. And
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: then you guys don't know why she doesn't like it,
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: and it's because the man that left her is Chocolate
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: thunderbirl Dons.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, it must have been so late in
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: the night in writer's room when you guys are wrestling
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: with that just hours.
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: How do we reach by the way? And by the way,
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: I'm sure he was a lovely man, but there's no
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: doubt in my mind while he's alive, if he had
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: showed up, first of all, if he had gotten that call,
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: he'd been like, they want me to do what beyond skill?
• 27:16
  Speaker 7: Because I don't think I ever saw him like on
• 27:18
  Speaker 7: a love boat or on any shows.
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: They want me to. They want me to come out
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: of retirement to do something I've never done. Before and
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: play a nurse's husband.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: All right, you break it backboard or something.
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: I think people should also drink at any time, Zach,
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: And I've only heard it three or four times that
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: you say one of the things that you would always
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: say to sum up the show and the voiceovers at
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: the end, because it's become part of our lexicon, and
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: one of them I heard you going at the end
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: of the day. It was so funny to me because
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: you're talking about scrubs in an episode that if you
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: listen to it goes at the end of the day
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: all you can really hope, and then you go at
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: the end of the day, what we so any any
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: any scrubs at the end of the day type things?
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, and I also had another drinking game idea for people.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: You're gonna get shit faced listening to this podcast.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: But I got really.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Excited in this episode when I when I had a
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Snoop Dogg intern sighting, and I thought it might be
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: fun for fans to also do a shot every time
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: you see Snoop Dogg intern resident attending.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: Well, it should start with Snoop Dogg, but then once
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: you know, Mickhead shows up and and and be doctor doctor.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: Oh Man Man, Colonel Doctor passed away, didn't he?
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: Colonel doctor? Just so what he knows is called Colonel
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: Doctor because he looks like the colonel from Kentucky Fried Chicken.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: And my favorite thing about that, that's why you think
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: he's I mean, it's funny that that's his nickname, Colonel Doctor.
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: And his name turns out to be Coleman Slowski, which
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: is cole Slaw.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, here's what I like.
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: My favorite thing that you guys all liked that Zach
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: is the first one kind of that he noticed was
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: he had all these great background performers, and we wanted
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: the consistency of recognizing nurses and doctors, and so he
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: tried to have the same people come back and then
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: because they were around, whether it was Coleman Slavsky, doctor
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: Mickhead who ultimately I think murdered his spouse and gave me.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: On the show, Yes, and Colonel Doctor, and Snoop dogg
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Beard fac and.
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: The world's oldest intern Gloria, I think it's really But
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: the point is that even amongst the background people, they
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: became tears like a call sheet. And I started noticing
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: that I'd come into like the background holding area, and
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: there'd be all the background and then there'd be the
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: king shit background of those four doing the equivalent of
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: like drinking martinis as the ones that had been the
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: ones that have names to sit around going like we're
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: fucking we're ruling this world.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: And I loved it that.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: What was really cool was when you would trust them
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: with lines and stuff like that and they would deliver.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: Like I remember, Mickhead had so many lines and you
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: gave him a storyline and everything, and it was because
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: you were like, yo, he delivers every time I give
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: him something.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, A lot of were actors. They just
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: hadn't had a break yet. And you know, like like
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: any group of actors, some could act and some couldn't.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: But I think Mickhead was one that was actually really good.
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: His backstory was Frank's backstory was a fascinating He was
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: a paid screenwriter that none of his even though he'd
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: sold a bunch of movies, none of them ever got made.
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: And you eventually reached the end of that career and
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: he was still plugging away writing and came by to
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: make dough and then when he was doing it, he
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: at least had a knowledge of film enough you know that.
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: He was good and subtle and he's like, what are
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: you making me into an actor for? This is not
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: my plan.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: It was really fun well and mainly Henry delivered one
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: of the greatest lines in Scrubs history, where mahoes at,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen them.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen you know. I played golf with Mickhead
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: quite a bit. We played.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: That's one of my golf buddies. And he still writes books.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: He's a novelist, you know, he writes with his with
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: his wife.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: And it's stay high for me.
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: Man.
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: He was a nice man.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I definitely will. Let's take a break.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: We'll be right back after these fine words. Okay, so
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: we're back. Yeah, yeah, No, Bill, it's no, and we
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: don't do the full song at the commercial breaks.
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: Bill does the song start? Whenever I say five to
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: six seven eight, it's unfortunately.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Dan's got his finger on the trigger. And whenever you
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: say five hits, please.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Don't say five six.
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: Stop saying five to six eight.
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: That's my favorite. He should Dan should just be contractually
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: obligated to do it. Whenever he hears that.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, whenever Dan, we started, he started it Dan, I
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: have the power stick.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Got it?
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: All right? Donald, you were going to start us off.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: We're forty minutes and we should probably talk about the
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: TV show.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: Okay, So first of all, Uh, Whiney Dancer was pretty good.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna put that out there. I thought that was
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: a very funny nickname. Yes, I laughed very hard at that,
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: and I was mad that it didn't stick. But Scooter
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: short for Scooter Pie is even here because he hates
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: Scooter Pie.
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: There's two things. It was hard for me to watch
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: that story because a Neil Flynn is funnier than the
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: material he gave him, you know what I mean in
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: that one, because we could have done a much funnier
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: stuff with your nickname.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: And then b is I don't know why he's eating
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: a popsicle in that next one, I see he seemed
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: to want to be eating it, which made me really laugh.
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: And then the third one is I remember that because
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: we're you know, strapped for figured out a moment. Uh
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: at the end when someone finally calls you Scooter, which
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: is a moment I do like uh, and I go
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: it's revealed, Neil, and he's like, how should I celebrate
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: I'm like, I don't know, do some kind of dance
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: or Irish jig or something. And that made me laugh
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: out loud because he committed to it, like good god,
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: yeah he could.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Really he could.
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: But Neil just pulled out an irs shade because it
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: looks pretty good.
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah I didn't. I don't think that he We had
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: planned that, you know, and you know we put the
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: music to it. We put the music to it. Afterwards.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: It was really he went straight river dance. He went
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: to straight river dance.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: That was funny before.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: That's also not us at that beach by the way.
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't want to ask you. I don't know
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: those doubles because that's not my hair, and I know if.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: That is your in my head also yeah, no, I
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: think we went and got that without you guys.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: Okay, but Donald's double is good my mind.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: I always ran.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Now it doesn't look like my head.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: I'm going I'm going to do that. I'm going to
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: that Donald that looks like your head. I'm at four seconds.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: If you're following, I.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Wish it was my head.
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: It is so not you guys, A and B you guys.
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: This is the show runner issue. I don't know if
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: you guys have this. What the fun thing about watching
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: these shows for me is that I just watched them
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: for all the mistakes I made, especially early and like
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: even that stupid fantasy, I didn't have a frontal shot
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: coming back on you two, like the flash out of it.
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: So it was a weird transition, Like, ah, man, it's
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: screwed that up too. I still at the stage.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: I think this is I think this is such a
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: funny episode. I laughed so many times in this episode.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: So you see, what you see is your mess ups.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: What I see is you know. I that That's how
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: it always I feel like that's how it always is
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: with people, you.
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: Know what I mean?
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: Like we we make things and then we find the
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: flaws in them. But if you sit back and let
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: other people tell you how amazing it is, you'll be like, really,
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: I didn't see them, you know what I mean?
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: This good?
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: That's another one.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: Oh drink Bill.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: I laughed that you chose smooth jazz from when we're
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: sitting on the bench, unless that's another track that's been changed.
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: But when I don't, I don't know, but I didn't
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: remember it. Look, I had my first weird thing. I
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: was giving you guys shit here at home for not
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: remembering any of this stuff. And uh, I wrote this
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: script by myself like at home to catch us up.
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: And h I didn't remember writing it. I didn't remember
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: what it was about. So I watched it was really weird.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: So is that what?
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: Just talk to that for a second.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: So, so, when you're the showrunner, you're overseeing your writing
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: staff having episodes, and then of course you end up
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: rewriting them a lot yourself. But when you said you
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: wrote this to catch up, just to explain that to
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: people the you know you.
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: In comedy staffs especially, someone will go out and write
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: a draft. The whole staff will help kind of you know,
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: you outline it and do out stuff. Whole staff will
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: help kind of punch it up. And then the showrunner
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: of any show that you've ever loved will usually do
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: a pass of it before it shoots, you know, just
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: not just out of arrogance, but out of wanting the
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: show to sound like it's from that one distinct voice.
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: That's why people over the years, you know, they noticed
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: when the showrunner on one of their favorite shows left
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: for a year, how it suddenly sounds different, you know,
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: And when you get caught and behind in writing. You know,
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: when you look at all the different stages, outline which
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: has to be approved by the showrunner, uh draft which
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: gets notes from the showrunner, rewrite with the whole staff,
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: which the showrunner does, you know what I mean. It's
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: you often can catch back up if you're behind writing.
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: If as the showrunner, you're like, hey, why we're all
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: doing this, I'll outline one on my own and write
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: it and then just drag all you this whole gang
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: and to punch it up really quick and then we'll
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: shoot it, you know. And so that was one of
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: those one and sometimes those to tell you the truth
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: in a weird way. Sometimes the don't aren't. Those aren't
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: as good as other episodes because showrunners don't have to
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: listen to other people's input and sometimes and sometimes instead
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: of the whole group punching it up, you'll just hand
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: it in and go that's done. Now, we're as long
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: as we don't spend four days trying to make it better.
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: We're back on timing again. You know, make twenty four
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: episodes this year.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Well, you nailed it with this one, man.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: This one has everything that you're looking for from you know,
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: from the drama to the comedy.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: This was I laughed so many times at this episode.
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: There was a couple of things. I really liked it. Mate.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: You know, at one fourteen, Neil is just boring a
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: giant hole in the reception desk for no, for no
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: apparent reason. I was trying to think about what what
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Neil's doing?
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: No, you know what, you know what that's for.
• 37:11
  Speaker 7: This is what you'll see early on, and you guys
• 37:13
  Speaker 7: should look for it.
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: There are certain things that exist solely because directors, once
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: they knew that they were allowed to have fun visually,
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: you know, on this particular show, would work backwards from
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: the shot they wanted, so that, without a doubt was
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: somebody working backwards from in the script JD going hey,
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: uh and the jannit they're turning and being imposing, you
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: know what I mean and saying, oh, you know what'd
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: be cool is this giant ten foot drill in JD's face.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: I know, I know, but I'm just laughing it. I'm
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: just labbing because I like to just rationalize things. I'm like,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: what assignment did he have with that drill in that
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: reception desk? I guess he was adding a new hole
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: for a new phone line or something.
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: Well, dude, we used to get It's so funny if
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: you think about this in terms for writers. At first,
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: it would annoy us when we would see, you know, uh,
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: what directors came up with, for like why is the
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: janitor there? How is he going to be imposing? And
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: then when we would get trapped, we'd start making jokes
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: out of it. And one of my favorite ones, we
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: needed the janitor in there and we didn't know why,
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: and so we had him say I don't really have
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: anything to do. I'm mopping the rug, and then I
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: love you. I love you guys. Remember then the rest
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: of that scene, when you guys walked across that rug,
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: you would hear squishy sounds like why is that guy
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: mop on the rug?
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: I love that Neil would Neil would take it seriously
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: and he'd be like, I why would my character be
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: mopping in a carpeted room? Yeah, you know, it's just
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: everybody wants their motivation, you know, of course, but Donald
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: pointed out I think and what Donald was? You mentioned that?
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: You know?
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: I never realized either. But the janitor feels like he's
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: a pretty good janitor, right, I mean he's absolutely I
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: never realized until rewatching it, but like, even though he
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: spends his entire existence fuggy with me, you know, he
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: does his best. He's pretty much a one man band
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: except for that that that Troy Troy, Oh my god,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: nice to the except for Troy and then Martin.
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Troy was the best because Troy frustrated the janitor
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: to no end. My favorite thing was when Troy's like,
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna go beat you up. He's like, that's not
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: how we do it, man, It's not how we do it.
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: It was literally like, we're better than that.
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: Man.
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: I enjoyed working with Flynn.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: And I forgot about the Frozen Effecting Bill and it's
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: really cool.
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: It's a two forty three.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: It's really done well and I don't even remember how
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: we pulled that off, but the foreground and background are frozen. Yeah,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: and whoever that was executed was really good. And then
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: we go to the guy who's then on the other
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: side of things. We go to the guy who's just
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: frozen and doing a horrible job trying to be frozen
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: without anything.
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: I know, you know, you know what's really interesting is
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: it one of the things you'll see in the first year.
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: Much like the sound effects that you guys noticed is
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: they're drifting away. I think they're almost gone. I'm hoping.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: We keep laughing, we keep laughing that that you say,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: they're almost going away, and then we.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Hear and then there'.
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: Jingle bells. Yeah, jingle balls balls. But that The other
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: thing that you have to look for is we used
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: to because writers have to procrastinate, We used to have
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: hours of talks about rules, you know, and the rules
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: of the world, and uh, this broke one of them,
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: and we made it right after this was you can't
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: still be in a fantasy after you're out of a fantasy, oh,
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: you know, because then after you flash out, it has
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: to be real. The one the conversation that tortured people
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: forever and we didn't show the answer to it to
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: like the six or seventh year, is when Jad has
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: these long fantasies, what's he doing? Is he just standing there?
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's happening.
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: And eventually eventually we had you and talking to the
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: todd in like the sixth or seventh year, when you go,
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: huh oh, that makes me think about trolls and you
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: go like this, and then Rob the better part of
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: like thirty second and then you're like, and.
• 41:01
  Speaker 7: That's why you shouldn't buy blah blah blahs or whatever.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, well you started.
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: It's funny because the last time you're wrong.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: We talked about how when I, when I came out
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: of a fantasy, I had agreed to buy Nurse Roberts
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: dead husband's of bowling shoes and I didn't know because
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: I was in a fantasy land, but I forgot. You
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: didn't really keep that little thing going that I would
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: have been a funny runner if like JD, because he's
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: in a fantasy, ends up agreeing to all this random shit.
• 41:27
  Speaker 7: We didn't have any of the rules yet, man, and
• 41:29
  Speaker 7: we were trying.
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: People used to argue all like the biggest argument that
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: you guys can look for in the writer's room in
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: a eight up hours the first year was was JD's
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: voiceover omniscient? Did he know what was going on in
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: the other stories and could narrate them or did we
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: have to write it so general as if he's talking
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: about himself but doesn't know about those stories. And it
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: used to drive people insane?
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Right, were we a hit at this time? At this
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: point where we like, did we get the back nine
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: at this point?
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the first the show, the show did so well
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: coming out of the gate, the first year that it
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: was considered a hit, and then the second year they
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: made a mistake in my view, and uh, the first
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: year of the show it was sometimes increasing on its
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: lead in and just crushing and you're they should have
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: kept it there forever. And then the set they said,
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: it's such a big show for us. Next year, we're
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: going to put it after Friends. And the combination of
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: no show could retain eighty five percent of Friends' audience.
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: It was a cultural you know, lightning bolt, and so
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: you know, we were like the eighth rank show in
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: the country. But they're like, you're only retaining like sixty
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: seven percent of their audience. So we're and just so
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: you know, anytime they want to do a forty minute episode,
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: we're going to make it supersized and you guys will
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: be moved or not on or whatever. And they never
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: they should have they didn't know the show. They should
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: have put us after Friends and left us there in perpetuity.
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: The show would have been bigger and bigger, but instead
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: they put nine thousand different shows one after another, after Friends,
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: each time pulling them when they don't get the same
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: ratings as this giant monster juggernaut and never established a
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: new successful show after that show in its entire existence.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, not only that, it was also the
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: end of Friends too, And then Joey came right after that,
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: and then we followed Joey for a little bit.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: And I followed it.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: It doesn't work either, now, yeah, we followed Joey for
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: like a little bit.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: And then for those of you who don't know what
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: the networks want, Bill, please correct me if I'm wrong.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: Is they want you to hold that is to say,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: keep eighty five percent of the lead in show's audience,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: which is pretty impossible if it's Friends and it's the
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: biggest show ever. And if you go below that then
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: they kind of start thinking about moving you or losing you,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: right right.
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Well, the only difference is they would have
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: left because the show is so well reviewed and was
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: doing really well. If they owned our show, this is
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: all boring business, they would have kept us on there forever, going, hey,
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: we'll keep this on forever and make tons of money
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: for ourselves. But since they didn't own it, the second
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: it didn't immediately become bigger than Friends. They said, let's
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: try some shows that we owned to see if they
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: become bigger than Friends.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: And just kind of feel like that was I feel
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: like Friends was the end of tg of not TGIF,
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: but that Thursday night line.
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: On must see Must see Thursdays.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: I feel like that's a no.
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: Yes, you know, because you'll like this. You guys should
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: get it. And I interrupt him, Sorry, Donald, But Jeff
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: and Gold, who is an NBC exec, has a Must
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: See Thursday poster in his office. He's proud of when
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: it was US thirty Rock, the office and parks and
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: rec We're all Thursday and that's that was a cool
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: That was a cool lineup.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, at one point that was a Thursday night.
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: I think it was I can't remember if I have
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: the no, it might have been Earl, but it was
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: US thirty Rock office and either Earl or you know,
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: but it was He's like, that was total, a total
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: must they were still doing.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: That's a pretty good muss seat Thursday. Man, that's a
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: pretty muss seat Thursday.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Shall we talk about Nicole Sullivan? Guys, absolutely, Bill tell
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: us about obviously, you know a lot of people know
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: knew Nicole Sullivan from Mad TV and how did how
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: did you choose her? Were you friends with her?
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: She was going, Yeah, she was another you know, we
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: brought people through our world that were friends of mine
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: that I knew were super talented. We wanted to have
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: her in this world because not only is she really funny,
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: but we knew she could actually act. And we had,
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: you know, kind of the idea beforehand, whether it was
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: with Brendan Frasier or her or Missus Wilke, that there
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: were sometimes patients that we would say, let's bring them
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: in and know that they're going to come back, you know.
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: And so we didn't know right then that Nicole was
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: going to die, but we knew she was going to
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: come back. And uh so we were setting her up
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: for the crap that, you know journey that her person
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: went down, you know, in a cool way. I think
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: the most fun way to do that. Donald said something
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: about it is you sneak it up on people. You
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: introduce somebody as something that's just going to be funny
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: in a goof to see them, and you get people
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: emotionally invested. So when there's stuff, when the wheels come off,
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: people are just you know, emotionally affected by that.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: That was something that you know, uh, and it just
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: shows how great of a writer you are. You know,
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: I'm sure you're you know this already.
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: But he does like a like a like a Michael
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: Jaminski of writing.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Almost you said you you would give everybody clues. The
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: clues are there, and if you're really paying attention, you know,
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: if you're really really paying attention, when it happens, it's
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: not that big of a surprise like it's we foreshadowed
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: so much.
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you talked about that, and I really appreciated it
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: because the way our staff worked that I thought was
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: cool before in the pre production every year before we
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: wrote episodes, we talked about what big things, you know,
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: arcs and stuff we wanted to do. Like we'd say, hey,
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: we want Turk and Car to get engaged, but we
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: want it to be a little bit of a rocky road.
• 47:13
  Speaker 7: And then we would work backwards, same way.
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: We'd go, hey, we want Johnny c to end up
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: with his ex who's never moved past now he's a
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: more matureian. We work work backwards. We're gonna kill Brendan Fraser.
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: It's worked backwards and then it would almost seem when
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: we're doing these initial episodes. Since we had already plotted
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: out these arcs, it was very easy to go, all right,
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: so if Nicole.
• 47:32
  Speaker 7: Sullivan's gonna eventually die, and.
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: Let's establish her here as a fun, neurotic person that
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: you think is just being kinde of hypochondriac, and then
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: do you know what I mean? So it is set
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: up because we were working backwards from the big episodes
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: that we wanted to accomplish. Was part of the fun.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good writing to me.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: That's because whenever you can look back and say to yourself,
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: was there and I didn't see it?
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: I feel like you know, Kayser So's you.
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: Know, yeah, it is the it's the trick of it all.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: That's the trick is that is you know you're not
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: gonna the audience isn't gonna have the heartbreak for an asshole.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: You know, you got to have the audience fall in
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: love with them and go, oh, I love listener. She's wacky,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: she's silly, She's I want to be her friend, she's
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: you want to you want to fall in love with
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: the person before Bill kills them.
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: It was the it was the one trick we went
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: back to a lot. It was too mean, was we
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: knew in twenty two minutes it was too hard to
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: get people to love someone and then kill them. So
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: we're like, all right, let's bring them and do another story.
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: And our goal is not only to do a successful story,
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: but make people like this person so that when they die,
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: we're uh screwed. The only time we thought we pulled
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: it off, that we killed someone people cared about in
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: one episode. It ties to this one because this is
• 48:52
  Speaker 5: me being a dummy. So Nicole Sullivan, you know, one
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: of the bride'smaids at my wedding, old friend she I'm
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: not good at naming characters. She played Jill Tracy, and uh,
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: and then I didn't realize till later. Jill Tracy, who's
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: Tim Hobert at the executive producer, one of them a
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: great actress in her own right. Not only had I
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: not put her on the show, but I named another
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: character after and somebody else played it. So then Jill
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: Tracy came and played the woman who died in a
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: Broadway musical. Waiting for my real life to the game.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: On a clear day when I can't see.
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: Very long crazy.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: So did she call you?
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: Did did you real jail Jill Tracy call you?
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: And what was she like?
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: No, Tim is just such a good buddy. I realized that,
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: you know, as it happened, and I'm like, oh, I'm
• 49:53
  Speaker 5: a piece of shit. We gotta make sure we get
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: you in there. And she was luckily also a Broadway
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: level singer and had done musical theater her whole life.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: You know, she was great, Hey, I'm looking at these
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: blackberries and I remember that this was like the time
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: that blackberries came out and Bill, as I recall, you
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: gave us all our first blackberries as a present.
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it gave them to everybody as a Christmas gift.
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: And I have a memory I remember you like we
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: were like, what is this so you can type on it?
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that I wrote that down, Nicole Sullivan says email
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: as we're talking. That kind of dates the show.
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, I know it was so weird.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: That means right when they all came out. I mean
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: that's we were like state of the art. She's got
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: a state of the art gadget.
• 50:33
  Speaker 7: Getting back to the.
• 50:34
  Speaker 5: Show, that was one of my favorite things because we
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: really wanted everybody had their thing to overcome on this show,
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: and we really wanted Sarah Chalk's character to overcome how
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: hard she always is on herself and you know how
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: much she buries herself psychologically and on an unhealthy way
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: with all her work. And my favorite scene in this
• 50:56
  Speaker 5: besides the Judy and Zach went out in the rain,
• 50:59
  Speaker 5: was Sarah and Johnny C with Johnny C doing some
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: really subtle stuff when he says, go ahead and make
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: your case why Jill Tracy can stay in the hospital,
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: and Sarah is saying, you know, sometimes you get overwhelmed,
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: and it's this and this, and John McGinley is without
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: doing anything big, proving to her that she does the
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: very same thing to herself. I love that moment.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 51:20
  Speaker 5: The reason I loved it as a writer was it
• 51:22
  Speaker 5: wasn't something that Sarah was necessarily doing in this episode,
• 51:26
  Speaker 5: but she had done it in every episode up to
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: this one.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: I wrote that down that that that's such a great moment.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: That scene is so awesome and Sarah pulls it off
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: really well where she's talking about you know, she's talking
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: about Nicole's character and then and then you know, Johnny says,
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: but have you looked at how you have you looked
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: at yourself?
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: I know I'm a skin and then.
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: That she's like, and she's like and then she'll do anything.
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: She's such a people pleaser for anyone.
• 51:52
  Speaker 7: I think he says, will you go clean up my
• 51:54
  Speaker 7: dog shit and take it to do it lunch?
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: She's really good in that scene.
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: Oh but it cuts right from that into you pulling
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: up in the cab, and that's where I got pissed
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: off because right there, like, no, not now jam but
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: it's but it marries so well, you know what I mean.
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: It's drunk out and by the way, and then the
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: parings we did in this one, the pairings we did
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: in this show made me think of another question I
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: answered to you guys in the previous episode, because I
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: believe Kelso calls you Turk in this episode because you
• 52:30
  Speaker 5: guys are having a battle, and he did.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: It in another episode too, he did it.
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: But that's why it's important. It's important to know that
• 52:39
  Speaker 5: that's why we do believe he thinks your name is Turkleton.
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: But that's why we got to the logic with the
• 52:45
  Speaker 5: writers that he thinks your name is Turk Turkleton. When
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: we said we said you know, he thinks her name
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: is doctor Turkleton. You know, in the writers you fight
• 52:55
  Speaker 5: about everything writers room. A lot of the writers were like,
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: he can't, he's called him Turk before. And then somebody's like, well,
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: then he thinks his name is Turk Turkleton.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: That's one of the best. And to this day, to
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: this day, to this day, there are a lot of
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: there are a.
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: Lot of Scrubs fans that know, you know, Christopher Turk
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: is the name, but there are some that honestly believe
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: Turk Turkleton is the characters man.
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: You know what else, by the way, came up randomly
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: is somebody asked me after why you were named Gandhi,
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: Like why doctor Coxon name checked.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: You as Gandhi Because I was a bald head guy.
• 53:31
  Speaker 5: It wasn't just that, it was because I was concurrently
• 53:34
  Speaker 5: looking at cartoons and okaying the character design with Chris
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: and Phil for Clone High and the Gandhi character. They
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: had him with a hip go T because he was
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: a young teen version and whatever, and I'm like, oh, ship, we.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: Should go I do.
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: We were typically going to talk about that right now.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: Let's just go to commercial real quick.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, sure, Commercial.
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: Okay, we're back. Steph is in the house, y'all. Steph
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: is in the house. Steph. Steph is in the house.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: All right, Steph is in the house. We're just gonna
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: finish the Clone High chat. So Steph.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: Okay, so let's get.
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: Back into Clone High. Dude, you now, had Phil and
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: Chris done anything before this.
• 54:24
  Speaker 5: Or or they were barely they were barely getting their
• 54:27
  Speaker 5: careers started. They were young animators from for Disney that
• 54:31
  Speaker 5: went to Dartmouth and we're also very funny and we're
• 54:34
  Speaker 5: just starting their career as kind of comedy writer animated.
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: The had done nothing. It was like the first project
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: that I supervised someone else the way I was supervised.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: And now the two.
• 54:43
  Speaker 5: Guys that are gonna give me and you and Steph
• 54:46
  Speaker 5: and Joelle a job. Eventually, I pray that they.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: Give me Donald wyt you explain the context, because not
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: everyone's gonna know what the hell are Okay.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: So Chris and Philip gone on to create movies like
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: twenty one Jump Street, twenty two Lego Street, the Lego
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: Lego Movie, the best, probably the best Spider Man movie ever.
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: Into the Spider Verse.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs, yes.
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: They were the animators, directors writers of that as well.
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: Yes, they've gone on to do some amazing things. But
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: in the beginning, before this all happened, there was a
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: little show called Clone High, which Bill was an executive
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: producer on, And while we were making scrubs in the basement,
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: they were doing all their recordings.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: And in the mental war in the mental ward. I
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: believe that was the writers.
• 55:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we hid to save money.
• 55:32
  Speaker 7: We hid our writing staff of that show in the hospital.
• 55:35
  Speaker 5: And then you guys just casually started to notice other
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: writers around the commissary every day eating. Yeah, I'm just
• 55:42
  Speaker 5: hanging out there.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: But they put us in the show too. So I
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: got an opportunity to play two really cool characters in
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: that were.
• 55:48
  Speaker 5: You George Washington, which is I was George, and.
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: I was also Toots, who was Joanavak's father in law
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: or something like that.
• 55:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it was a blind It was a blind former
• 55:58
  Speaker 7: jazz man.
• 55:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, it's so weird because all a bunch of
• 56:02
  Speaker 5: Clone High nerds. I love Big Mouth, but Toots is
• 56:05
  Speaker 5: very much like the jazzy ghost that they have in
• 56:09
  Speaker 5: that cartoon Big Mouth.
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: You know, are you guys bringing it back?
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: In some way.
• 56:12
  Speaker 5: Bill, I'm not at liberty to discuss that yet.
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: No, I stumbled across something top secret audience.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: That would be awesome.
• 56:20
  Speaker 5: That's a good tease.
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: I was in it too, but I don't know who
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: I played a lot.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: You weren't in it a lot.
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: I don't minimize my part.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: I did occur.
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: I did it was it was such a cool college
• 56:31
  Speaker 5: filmmaking type atmosphere, which is what Scrubs was anyways, that
• 56:34
  Speaker 5: you guys would be shooting scenes and we would literally go, hey,
• 56:37
  Speaker 5: do you mind while you're eating to walk downstairs and
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: record a voice being a cartoon character, and you guys
• 56:43
  Speaker 5: were also nice about it.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: Well, I loved working on that show Man. That was
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: a lot of fun.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: I was Paul Revere, Joelle is telling so Paul Revere
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: is an important character everybody.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was like one episode.
• 56:55
  Speaker 5: You had a bigger You had a bigger one when
• 56:57
  Speaker 5: you were selling a weird energy paste with Sarah Chalk
• 57:00
  Speaker 5: and Marilyn Manson came in and saying the food Pyramid song.
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: It's very weird.
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, I just remember being I remember being there,
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: and this is the first time I met Mandy Moore.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: She did a guest spot on the show.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: I met Uh, I've never remember what shall we go to, Steph?
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: I met Tom Green? That was cool. That was the
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: first time I've ever met Tom Green and he was
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: on fire at the time and was on it.
• 57:21
  Speaker 5: Steph was on.
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: And also even we have a caller, guys, our caller
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: has has Finally we're gonna let her talk.
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: Okadies and gentlemen, please welcome Steph.
• 57:34
  Speaker 9: Bill.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: Bill's counting into everything. Dan, turn off the theme song, Steph.
• 57:42
  Speaker 7: At any point that you want to hear that awesome song,
• 57:45
  Speaker 7: just say five to six seven eight.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: It's official. Anytime you say five six seven eight.
• 57:55
  Speaker 6: Maybe wait three whole minutes so I think it's only
• 57:58
  Speaker 6: just right, Okay, five six seven.
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: Eight, Okay, but not the whole song, the damn stopping
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: to stop it?
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: Do you want to do the tag at the end? Stuff?
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: I don't know, give us the tag?
• 58:18
  Speaker 5: Good boys?
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: All right, this this has all gone to ship Steph.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: What's your question?
• 58:23
  Speaker 6: So I'm finishing up my second year of medical school,
• 58:27
  Speaker 6: which is in part due to scrubs.
• 58:30
  Speaker 9: So basically, yeah, super funny story.
• 58:35
  Speaker 6: I alluded to this in my personal statement but left
• 58:37
  Speaker 6: out certain details because I didn't want them to not
• 58:39
  Speaker 6: take me seriously.
• 58:40
  Speaker 9: But basically, my mom was a surgeon.
• 58:44
  Speaker 6: So when I was growing up, I saw like, you know,
• 58:46
  Speaker 6: pictures of her job and stuff like that, and I
• 58:49
  Speaker 6: thought it looked awful. I was like, I have no
• 58:51
  Speaker 6: idea how you do what you do. She's a breast
• 58:53
  Speaker 6: cancer surgeon. So I was like, that's disgusting, Like, how
• 58:56
  Speaker 6: do you look at boobs all day? So weird?
• 58:58
  Speaker 9: I never am going into medicine.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: How do you look at boobs all day?
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: That's just I don't know, it's easier if you're not
• 59:04
  Speaker 5: a medical professional. Continue, I got it.
• 59:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, So I started watching Scrubs maybe like I don't
• 59:10
  Speaker 6: even remember when, maybe in middle school, and I related
• 59:13
  Speaker 6: to Elliott's character on such a spiritual level that I
• 59:17
  Speaker 6: was like, this looks really fun. Maybe I will go
• 59:19
  Speaker 6: into medicine. And since then kind of became more legitimate.
• 59:23
  Speaker 9: But definitely the first thing that piqued my interest with Scrubs.
• 59:26
  Speaker 9: So thank you guys.
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: Do you use the word frick a lot?
• 59:32
  Speaker 9: I kind of graduated to the U version.
• 59:35
  Speaker 6: But.
• 59:37
  Speaker 10: Sometimes I mean, I gotta say I want to interject
• 59:41
  Speaker 10: stuff because that means so much to me because we
• 59:46
  Speaker 10: wanted to make sure that medical personnel seemed like heroes
• 59:48
  Speaker 10: and the job seemed like fun.
• 59:50
  Speaker 5: And I just was talking to the real JD last
• 59:53
  Speaker 5: night and his wife Dolly, who Elliott's based on, and
• 59:58
  Speaker 5: their favorite thing is is to consider you know that
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: they might have had a tiny part in some people
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 5: kind of embracing medicine as a career because it means
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 5: so much to them. That's A and B for those
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 5: of you that are just listening that you can't see
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 5: Steph could easily have played Elliott, just so you guys know,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 5: she's elliot S. She's elliot S both in her mannerisms
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 5: and her appearance. And I almost, by the way, this
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 5: is the thing that I have to watch out for
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 5: late in life because I'm much older than all these people.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 5: But I almost said, I am here talking to a
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 5: young Sarah Chalk. But Sarah Chalk is still very young,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 5: So I did not say.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: That Sarah is not an old person at all.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 6: Yes, my mad school friends all tell me, all the
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 6: ones that watch Scrubs religiously are all like you have
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 6: the same luck that she does. When you guys, did
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 6: the episode of Sarah Chalk, how like the crazy stories
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 6: that come out of nowhere.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 9: You're like, there's no way that happened to you on
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 9: a Monday.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 5: That's me, Like, yeah, I was watching that. I think
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: that that that story that Zach and Donald told led
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 5: us to write a story in which he bought a
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 5: new car. In every thirty seconds, someone someone took another
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 5: door off.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: That would happen to Sarah.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 6: The best part of that episode is when the grumpy
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 6: radiologists like, thanks for stopping by and don't forget your.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 9: Car doors, Like I did.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 6: You know what?
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 5: You're a real fan. This will make you laugh. And
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 5: I don't even know if Donald and Zach remember it.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 5: Different things from different episodes would stick on set and
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 5: people would say them over and over and I never
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 5: could predict what it was. And I don't know Zach Donald,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 5: if you guys remember what it was from this one.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: But it was a made up flavor of smoothie that
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 5: you guys kept saying for weeks.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: Orange goo go.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: Wait which episode I remember that?
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: What flavor do you want? I'll have a Frasberry olist
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: an orange goo go. I believe that.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: I believe Bill.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: I believe that came from in the writer's rooms, you'd
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: have the assistance do like a smoothie run and you'd
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: all be like calling out weird jama juice flavors where
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: you make.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: Up fake flavors and just to torture the poor young
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: people working on hourly waves. Yeah, and so that orange
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 5: goo go orange with.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: Immunity.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 5: All right, stuff, we're taking this.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: Come on, come on your time, it's your time. Stuff,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: it's your time.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: It's your time.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: Stuff. Goonies go ahead. Stuff.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 6: So it's actually kind of perfect that Bill is here
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 6: on this episode because it kind of relates to the
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 6: behind the scenes part of it. But since I watched
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 6: the show so much, a lot of the times when
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 6: I'm studying, i'll recognize words that will like remind me
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 6: of certain scenes of the show. And I know you
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 6: guys talked about like trying to make it really medically accurate.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 6: It is reverifying, but it's also really funny, which I
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 6: think is hard to do with medical vernacular if you're
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 6: not really used to it. So I was wondering if
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 6: there is a specific member of the writing team that was,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 6: you know, kind of crucial in making the medical scenes,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 6: specifically the funny ones, because I think it would be
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 6: kind of hard to write if you didn't have that
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 6: medical knowledge.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 5: I'm going to give props to First of all, we
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 5: have actors and actresses that can sell comedy, and they
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 5: were great. But the real JD is, as I can
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 5: tell by your persona, he is a guy that I
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 5: would not have been surprised if he went into comedy writing.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 5: He was funny, and so for me it was it'd
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 5: be interesting to even go back to all his memories.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 5: But I remember him talking about pimping, you know, when
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 5: you get grilled with questions and rounds, and he would
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 5: be like, I was never ready. I always felt, you know,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 5: like I was a deer in the headlights. And then
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: just from him saying that, you know, I was like, oh,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 5: JD's gonna be a deer in the headlights when they
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 5: ask him a question, you know what I mean? And
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 5: I would bet stuff that you when you go through
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 5: all this stuff, we'll meet it with humor and banter,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: because if you don't, I think you go crazy. So
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 5: I give him the props for it, and the performers
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 5: the propsport because they'd find ways to make it funny.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: You know, Bill, did JD ever like overstep the line
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: and he's like, hey, Bill, I got an episode for you.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: Here's what's going to happen.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And they did two things. One, he and Dolly
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 5: once said, hey, we got bored because we were both
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 5: sick and stayed in all weekend. We wrote an episode
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: and I was like, oh my god.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 7: I was like yeah, and of course I'll look at it.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 7: And then they're like, no, we're not going to show
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 7: it to you.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 5: We forget it. We don't want to do that right,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 5: which was super cool.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: It's probably brilliant and in the movie version would be
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: like the most brilliant script ever written, I know.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 5: And then the other thing was to answer Steph's question.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 5: We would sometimes work backwards, you know, which was really
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 5: hard because for.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 7: Him, because I'd go, I want to do this funny moment.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 5: We need you to say something that would cause this
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 5: guy to not have a sense of smell and not
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 5: blah blah blah, and it can't be soious enough that
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 5: I have to worry about whether or not he died.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 5: And he should still be conscious and be able to
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 5: talk because he has to talk in the scene. And
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 5: Jad would be like, dude, this is worse than med school. Homework.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 5: This is impossible, hard one.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: Speaking of speaking of funny medical dragon, uh, it's pronounced
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: annal Jesus.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 9: I can't believe you said that. Literally, I had to
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 9: give a talk to my like med school.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 6: It was one of our small groups, and they were
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 6: talking about how it's so important to be able to
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 6: articulate in kind of Layman's terms, what you're talking about.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 6: And I was like, yeah, there's a scene of Scrubs
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 6: where Turk has to explain that anal jesick is like
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 6: not the same as anal jesis put it in your
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 6: bite and that. Everyone was like, I mean, yeah, I
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 6: guess that works. That was.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 5: On my top ten jokes that I did not write
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 5: that I wish I could take credit for. That's such
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 5: a funny joke.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: Manil Goldman, whatever you do, I'm not gonna it.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 5: Really bums me out. I think that might have even
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 5: been Arsist or Gabby I don't even know, or Hobert.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 5: It sounds like a Tim Hobert choke too.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: All right, Steph, you got another question.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's kind of piggybacks off of the first one
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 6: a little bit. So you guys talked about early on
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 6: in your episodes that you kind of work to develop
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 6: this character and figure out what kind of mannerisms you
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 6: wanted and all that kind of stuff. It really shows
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 6: throughout the progression of this season they kind of grow
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 6: into those character traits while also still growing as people.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 6: But I find that they're really kind of congruent with
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 6: how you would expect that person to act as a clinician.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 9: And I was wondering if the kind.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 6: Of character that you developed influenced the way that the
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 6: writers wrote scenes of how you practiced medicine.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 5: Like later on, I'll set Donald and Zach up to
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 5: talk about this, but I'll tell you my philosophy of
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 5: running a TV show is ook. They were talking about
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 5: show running earlier. So your question's awesome because it means
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 5: a lot to me that it felt that way to you.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 5: Because when I teach sometimes like the I teach the
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 5: Writers Guild for kids running shows for the first time
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 5: and stuff I said. The most successful shows, in my mind,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 5: when you write the pilot and come up with it,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 5: and actors and actresses don't exist there. The characters belong
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 5: to you. You invented them, and then you cast these people.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 5: And when you do the pilot the first episode. For
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 5: it to be great, it's got to be a partnership.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 5: You know, it's half mine and half yours. But then
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 5: for a show to work, ownership you have to stop
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 5: being a control freak, and ownership has to go to
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 5: the actors and actresses playing the parts. And so I
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 5: would ask Donald and Zach, you know at this point
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 5: in the show where they said it, you know, because
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 5: what would happen is it's really cool. Eventually, on good shows,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 5: people start coming up to you and going, I don't
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 5: think my character would say it this way? Or are
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 5: you sure this is how my character would react in
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 5: this moment, or should my character be more like this?
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 5: And you on shows that are working, you have to listen,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 5: and I did you guys eventually kind of feel like
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 5: those characters were yours?
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: You know, I definitely felt.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: I definitely felt like Turk became if not I became Turk,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: or Turk became me. I definitely at some point everything
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: it just seemed like I was living life on camera
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: at some point. And what really helped me, though, was
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: you realizing medical jargon wasn't my strength.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: And once you realized that, right, and once you realized
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: that and made Turk just a scalpel jockey.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: It freed me, you know what I mean.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: And I didn't have to worry about having to say
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: certain things, you know what I mean, drink up. I
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: didn't have to worry about saying certain things, whereas Zach
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: and Sarah would say and Johnny would say things, and
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: I'd be like, I'm so happy I don't have to
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: do that.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: I remember being in the makeup chair in the morning
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: and being like looking through the sides and being like,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: oh no, Donald's got a medical jargon monologue.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 4: Those are just lunch is going to be late today.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, those would be the worst. Those would be the
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: worst days. But once Bill was like, I'm not going
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: to give you medical jargon anymore.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 4: Churk knows it, he just doesn't like to use it.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: Right, life became so much easier.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 5: It's a good question, though, because do you guys eventually
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 5: even would start riffing your own lies, and I gladly
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 5: would use them because they knew their characters and how
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 5: they would react and what they would say and didn't
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 5: bother me at all. It made me happy. And you're
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 5: you know, even getting.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 7: To talk to the same way. Getting to talk to
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 7: you makes me happy.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 5: I One of the things I momentos I have on
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 5: my wall in my office from Scrubs is from a
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 5: med student Steph, who pulled an answer it rounds out
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 5: of their ass because they remembered a chunk of dialogue
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 5: on our show. And they said the attending was so
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 5: blown away because it was a question they shouldn't have
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 5: known the answer to, you know what I mean.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 6: And I said the same things about her med students
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 6: that like all of the fact like trivia that people
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 6: don't really they're not supposed to remember, you know, years
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 6: into practice because it just is you never see it.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 6: She was like, yeah, all the med students know it
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 6: because scrubs.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 5: That what kind of what kind of doctor do you
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 5: want to be? Stuff?
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 9: I'm leaning towards surgery, but we'll see opened anything.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 5: I think it's really really neat. You know that you're
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 5: doing that, and uh, it's a gig that's of service.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 5: It's like being a teacher. It's awesome and the most
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 5: important jobs to be of service. I think like teacher, soldier,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 5: a physician, and of course comedy writer.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: I would think right, not at all all, Right, Steph
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: thank you so much. That was amazing questions and also
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: really inspired us. I mean, you made us all feel
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: like we we may have inspired we you know, we
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: inspired at least one person per Medicine a lot.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 6: A lot. Let me.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 9: Yeah, you guys have a huge medical fan base.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: Well, good luck with that.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 5: Promise me that you'll dress up and you'll dress up
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 5: as Elliott for at least one Halloween, oh yeah, every Halloween.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: And whoever, if you have friends that go as Turk
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: for Halloween, tell them please no black face.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: Make sure they're really black because Donald might cringe.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: No, they don't even have to be black if you
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: just don't paint your face right.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: Okay, but Donald and I cringe every Halloween when people
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: tag us on Instagram like excitedly like Turk and GD
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: for Halloween. And still in twenty twenty, there's still people
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: painting their faces brown and black and it's horrible.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: Although we did it a lot on scrips.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 5: Yeh. By the way, one of the many things that
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 5: doesn't hold up in retrospect on the show the a stuff.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 5: Good luck with all this stuff, and.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 9: Hi, Vic and Hayden, hope you guys are jealous.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: Turn it off.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: Turn it off, you guys, turn it off.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: Steph thought she was just gonna sneak into Vic and
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: Hayden a quick thing, but I think we should just
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: keep talking about Vic and Hayes.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 4: I like Vic, but I don't like Hayden.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: I don't like it at all.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 4: I want their shout out to go awry.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 5: Vick and Hayden shout out. Now, yeah, I want let's uh,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 5: let's do a Vic and Hayden episode.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, we should so at four forty four, guys, what's
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: happening before? At four forty four, what's happening is cow?
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: We haven't talked about this episode at all.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, here's what I like.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 7: We've talked about the Sarah story both with Steph and.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: We jumped around.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: We jumped around, and we talked about.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 7: The Neil, but we haven't talked about the Judy and
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 7: Zach story.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: We're gonna get into it, and we're gonna get into it,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: you know. But listen, Donald Bill Laurin's episodes, they are
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: always going to be long because he brings a lot
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: to the table, and he's.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: No, I'm not complaining. I'm not complaining about the length
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: of the episode. I'm just saying some people. Some people
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: want to listen to a rewatch podcast and actually rewatch
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: the show, well.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: Then they should listen to a different show. We happened
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: to we happened to Meander. At four forty four, What's
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: Happening is mentioned for the first time.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: Okay, you don't need to start banging.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 4: I did I bang the table?
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: I banged the table on that. I'm sorry? Why am
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: I yelling?
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 5: What happens?
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: At four forty four, What's Happening is mentioned for the
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: very first time on Scrubs.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, and you guys did the dance and we
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 5: don't even idea it really, She says, it's not that
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 5: great a show. You just expected people to know what
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 5: we were talking about. And that's such an old reference.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: And nowadays kids don't even know the glory of what's
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: happening unless you're our age.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: Hey, hey, the glory of what's happening or what's happening now?
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: I know, do you remember what?
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 6: Now?
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 4: What's happening?
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: Surely owned the restaurant.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: They all grew up and now d is not just
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: a small character. She's like the star.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: No, she was the star I think because she was
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: the star.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: Everybody came back.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: I didn't like what's happening now as much as what's happening.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: What's happening is.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 7: I just liked We Runs dance, and I liked the
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 7: moment you guys did for me, which is forever.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 5: I liked, hey, hey, hey, what's happening?
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: Hey hey hey?
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: Do you remember in the opening credits when they made
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: they left rerun and he's driving the street and then
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: reruns just running after the pickup truck.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: That's rude that they did that.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: I know they were making they were making fun of
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: me heavy.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: Said guy, making fun of the heavy set guy.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: But watching me run chase after that truck was funny.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 5: Come on, this sure was because he had suspenders on.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well that that and the hat and the and
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: the same red His outfit never changed.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: Do you remember the episode where Roger decided he was
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: going to be a nude model.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 5: My favorite thing that's happening right now is you guys said,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 5: we haven't talked about the show yet, and then you're going,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 5: do you remember the episode of What's Happening? By the way,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 5: And if I was like if I was like at
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 5: ten fifteen and that what's happening episode.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 7: That's the first time that surely says.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 4: I just remember. I'm well, you can go back to
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: the show, but I just remember that there was an episode.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: Where Roger was doing nude modeling for artists, you know,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: when they like paint the nude model. And I remember
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: thinking as a child, like this is scandalous. Roger's gonna
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: take off his clothes, like that's crazy.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: Okay, let's get back into the show. Okay, So let's
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: talk about the JD and Carla storyline, which is a
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: very interesting storyline because at the beginning of the show,
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: you guys are really clicking and grooving. One reason because
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: your best friend and his now girlfriend are always you know,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: we live together, or your roommate and his girlfriend always around,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: and so you guys have developed a relationship and because.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: Of that, you're a dynamic duo of your own.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 5: You know what I mean.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: She doesn't work, drink up, she doesn't work for you.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 3: But you guys are a team that is very, very
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: very cohesive, and you go along and you fuck it
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: up by becoming judgmental.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: Right, Well, I'm feeling every one is being condescending to
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: me and I and I'm starting to become a good doctor.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: I'm starting to get my groove. I'm starting to know
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: what's happening.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 4: And and also.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: Okay go on, and and and I just you know,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: like like someone does you lose he loses his temper,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: and of course he loses his temper at the worst
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: person possible, his teammate. Uh, Carlo.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, this was also a product the reason I wrote
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 5: this is is interesting, the product of two things. One,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 5: all the nurses that were nice enough to give us interviews.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 5: You know, one of the stories that you saw was
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 5: the nurses are essentially the last line of training, you know,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 5: for a lot of these medical students and residents and
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 5: interns and stuff, because when you first show up, you
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 5: know more than they do even say it in the show,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 5: than the training.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 7: Kicks in and the dynamics ships, and you know, so
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 7: many of them ultimately.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 5: Told us that it's so interesting how to navigate that,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 5: because you know, there is an air of superiority to
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 5: some doctors, you know, when they get to that point,
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 5: and it messes up that dynamic, you know. And I
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 5: wanted to combine that in my personal life. My mom's family,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 5: my mom and then me were the first two in
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 5: her side of a family to go to college, you know,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 5: and then you always kind of enter these dynamics of like, oh,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 5: you know, you think you're smarter than me because you
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 5: actually went on to secondary education and did that stuff.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 5: And you know, as you get older, you realize that
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 5: doesn't have anything to do with anything. You know, At
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 5: this point in my life, I know tons of geniuses
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 5: that didn't finish high school and tons of you know,
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 5: grad school graduates. They're the dumbest people alive, do you
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 5: know what I mean? But around youthful things that kind
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 5: of carries there. And my favorite part of that stuff
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 5: was her challenging you to admit it and you actually
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 5: admitting it, you know what I mean? And that was
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 5: what enabled you guys still to be friends.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: In that scene was really I mean, Judy's I'm just
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: you know, the straight man in that scene. Her her
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: performance in that rain outside the bus I thought was
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: just incredible. She did such a beautiful job and it
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: was heartbreaking. Still to this day, I'm watching it and
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: was so moved by by by by how heartfelt and
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: open she was.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 5: Uh and uh, I wrote down because this is what
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 5: we wanted to do that people didn't understand it comedy
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 5: of comedy at the time, and why Judy Rays was
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 5: so perfect, you know, because there weren't a lot of
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 5: dramedies on. And one of my favorite jokes in this
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 5: episode was when before you get off the bus, she's
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 5: leaving and she's like, I'm so mad at you and
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 5: you said you can't you forgave me.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 7: You can't just change your mind, And without selling it
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 7: as a joke, she's like, have.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 5: You never met a woman before? And she walks out
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 5: into the rain, you.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 6: Know what I mean.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 5: And it wasn't read like a punchline. It was read like, yeah,
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 5: you can still be funny in drama and amongst pathos
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 5: when you're feeling bad. And that was like the tonal stuff.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 5: That's why she's so good man, because she's always so real,
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 5: very very very good actors.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I look back at it like I had no
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 3: clue how much of a power how she was or
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: or is I should say, And when I watched these episodes,
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: you know, I said it in our first podcast, her
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: and Ken, Wow, really they're really MVPs of our show,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: Drink up?
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 5: They can just you don't get actor.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: You don't have to tell people to drink when you say,
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: you know what, I'm just I know they're just gonna
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: do it.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: I'm bringing I'm bringing it to my attention that I
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: said it.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: This is the most you've ever done, by the way
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: you went from the previous episode being conscious of it
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: and doing none to this one doing like thirty I
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 3: I probably said it several times in the last episode. Also,
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: this episode is also about how how important your name is,
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: regardless of if it's Bambi or JD or your reputation
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: or Scooter, whatever it is you have. Reputation is very
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: important and you only get one chance to make a
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: first impression and after that people will have judgments of
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: who they think you are.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: And this episode really touches on that.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 5: Here's the thing I screwed up in this episode off
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 5: what Donald and Sam bothers me. What doctor Cox's character
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 5: does to JD, you know, of shaming him was so
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 5: bad that it bummed me out that he never got
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 5: his comeuppance for that, you know what I mean, because
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 5: you didn't tell her to go protect you. And then
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 5: he makes everybody stop and goes we're all to be
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 5: super special to this little flower, you know, And I
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 5: thought that was so egregiously mean, you know what I mean.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 5: But his character, I guess was flawed. But we should
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 5: have gotten him, have him make amends for that or
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 5: get thumped for that.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: But Boxing Fantasy was pretty funny, though Johnny stil oiled.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: I'm not to say, holy cow, how oil did he
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: have on?
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 4: There was a lot of oil. I remember, it was
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 4: a lot of Crisco.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 5: I watched it with Christa, who had to do all
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 5: her romance scenes with Johnny c and uh and she
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 5: will eventually, you know, be on your You're so nice
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 5: about her too. He came he came on as a
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 5: punching bag, and she was half asleep through upstairs in
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 5: the room and she goes, uh, half drowsy. Here comes
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 5: old up.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: That he is just just glistening with Johnny has a
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: full bottle of criscal oil.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: Let's be honest, he's ripped. He looks amazing.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 5: I think it's drawn on. Oh you know what I
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 5: wanted to say, and I wanted to tell me if
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 5: you guys thought this in real life. When I say
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 5: that is what I wrote. Last thing, I wrote down
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 5: about Judy.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 7: Would I say, like, when you get really lucky, it's
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 7: not the.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 5: Writing or anything else, it's all it's everything, and the
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 5: casting people have to really nail you know, these characters
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 5: and be who they are. And the amazing thing watching
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 5: Judy back then, you guys, Zach and Donald were such kids,
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 5: and Sarah Sarah's character, and Sarah felt like a kid
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 5: and Judy and this is one of the reasons I
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 5: think the show works. She was not significantly She's essentially
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 5: the same age as all you guys, but she seemed
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 5: like such a grown up even.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: From the start, definitely way more mature than we were.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 5: You know, and seemed like such an adult that it
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 5: made the show work. Of like, oh, one of these
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 5: four is you know, old for her years and an
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 5: adult already, whereas Judy is, you know, she could have
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 5: easily on a different show been Elliott or been you know,
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 5: the little kid, you know.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 4: And so it was was she like that in real
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 4: life or she was good man in real life?
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: Judy was way more mature than the three of us.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: I think we were. We were just as silly and
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: goofy as our characters, and you know, Judy was funny
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: and would play along with us, but I think she
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: was definitely more mature than us.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: By the way, there's a really funny there's a really
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: funny fuck up bill at twelve oh three. When Donald
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: runs into the room that Kelso's lured him to, you
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: could totally see a hand that's all come in and
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: it's on the floor and it's holding the door open.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: And it made me think, now we paint sh like
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: that out. I know, I know nowadays we just you know,
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: painted out, but it made me think it was probably
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: Patrick Bolton or something lying on the floor.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: Patrick shout out, Patrick Bolton.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: Patrick Bolton was the on set track.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: It has wheels, that thing will be on set.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 5: I enjoyed after hearing the interesting thing you guys posted
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 5: about eating. I think I've never seen the two of
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 5: you do more eating in an episode. Zach having a
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 5: jam a cupcake in your mouth, Donald just wolf and sandwich.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 5: Did you guys really eat that stuff or were you
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 5: just spitting it out as soon as they said cut.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: I do love a sandwich.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie, and a cupcake doesn't count. But
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: if someone says we need you to jam this cupcake
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: in your mouth. You're gonna do it.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's your excuse. Also was that it was
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 4: that cheap cupcake.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 5: What are those called hostess cupcakes?
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: That was a dang Listen. I'll tell you something right now.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 3: You put some cold cuts, some cheese in between some
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 3: hero that sounds delicious to me. You could put some
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: lettuce tomato on it. I'll eat that shit.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: And another another strike at the janitor not speaking to
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: anyone in season one, Bill, is that he clearly has
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: told doctor Cox to call me Scooter at the end.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 5: I don't know what you're talking about.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 7: He never ever spoke to anybody except JD.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: And Donald and I have been going through like detectives
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: going so we're trying to keep the janitor Laura alive
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: for season one. But the facts, the facts are, the
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: facts are problematic.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 4: The facts are problematic.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 5: Bill doesn't We've done all the work, just like Turkleton,
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 5: there was just okay.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 4: So in your mind, Bill, hit your rationalization button. How
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 4: does Cox know to call me Scooter?
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 7: It's just a random coincidence.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 5: Nicknames.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 4: I love it.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: I really want this to be a running gag that
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: Donald and I do the detective work to see how
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: the janitor talks to other people.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 5: The only one I think you've ever seen him speak
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 5: to is Elliott in that thing when they're all walking
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 5: up to each other. Mad.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, well she speaks to him. He doesn't necessarily
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: speak to her.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 4: The exact exactly.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 5: That might not have even been a janitor she made Mad.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 5: This is just a lens.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 4: The last thing I wanted to, last thing I've.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: Ever you know what, And you're absolutely right.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: Actually, the very next person at the janitor, the very
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 3: next person that's attacked after Elliott, uh does that to
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: the janitor is JD.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: So it could be it could be that that one's that.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 5: One's imaginary and Elliott was talking to an intern or
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 5: inn order or something or.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: No, that's a possibility.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: Or she's just not even talking to anyone. There's no
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: one there and she's just saying it.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's very fight clubby.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: The last thing I want to say is this, they
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: went overboard with the filters on Sarah in the bathtub,
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: because it's like Barbara Walters, you could barely see her
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: through filters, and and she's in like this most enormous
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: fucking bathroom, and I was thinking, like, why does Elliott,
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: But then I remember it is doesn't Elliot supposed to
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: have money from her parents.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 4: Her parents are paid Elliott's in like the bathroom of
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 4: a millionaire's house.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 5: It was subtext that we had planned for and a
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 5: lot of it got cut, but it eventually pays off.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 5: When she tells her dad she doesn't want to go
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 5: into a female specialty and he stops paying for her life,
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 5: so she has to move in with you. She loses
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 5: her whole apartment. She works, was at that apartment. She's like,
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 5: this place is big.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: She works at the clinic, she starts working at the clinic.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: All of that stuff. I remember, Well, thank you, sorry, audience,
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: we've done.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, audience, we we went all over the place today,
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: but we're so excited.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 4: We made about a bunch of talks and nurses.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: Said, he's a story natural. So yanda here yea