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Songs for Swingin' Lovers - Frank Sinatra · Barber Cuts: Beats and Bars

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Welcome to Barbara Cuts, Beats and Vars.
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We're a father to daughter music podcast that slices into some of
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the greatest albums, one cut at a time.
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With no industry ties or formal training, just a shared love of
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I bring the beats. And I bring the bars and
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together we deliver real talk and fresh takes from both sides
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of the sound. Hey everybody, I'm Riley.
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And I'm Todd, and welcome to this week's episode of Barber
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Cuts. And this week we are talking
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about the old swinger, the old blue eyes himself, Frank Sinatra
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songs for swinging lovers from 1956.
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So we're going a bit back in time to talk about this one.
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So Riley, what are your least favorite two from the album?
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My one of my least favorites was Anything Goes for it being a
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Frank Sinatra song. It's very pessimistic.
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It's like just a really depressing little song and I get
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it. I I am not saying I'm not a fan
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of depressing music. I am a fan of the Cure, so have
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to be there a little bit. It just doesn't fit really Frank
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Sinatra music or context of what I'm saying It's it's saying that
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anything goes like good authors used to write a lot.
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Now we only use this Black's white today Day's night today
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like it. It's just kind of saying that
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anything goes and it it turns, but it's just kind of like a
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weird little song to be put in, like Frank Sinatra's list.
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And, and so really, to be fair, I guess we should preface at the
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very beginning that all of these and, and this is this is
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strange. So it's 1956 is the album.
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It's it's 2025 now. 1956 is the album.
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All of these songs were cover songs.
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Yeah, yeah. So all of these were previously
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recorded and and he went in and, and redid it in in his style.
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So, but I mean, that doesn't make it any easier because I
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didn't know any of the like some of these go back to the 20s.
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So, you know, if I didn't know it from the 50s, I'm not going
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to know it from the 20s. But you know, I recognize some
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of the names. Gershwin I definitely
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recognized. We'll we'll throw that caveat in
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here as as we talk about these songs.
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Right, it just was interesting to hear this song within like
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the list of the other love songs.
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Like it just felt a little out of place.
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But my my least favorite song, which we don't really need to go
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in more in depth than the title is naked Whoopi.
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I think that kind of says it. I I will also say another caveat
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that I feel like we need to mention is even though Frank
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Sinatra was very progressive for his time, as you mentioned,
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these songs are from the 20. So some things just age kind of
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strange, like things just are different.
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And this song was just like funny to me because by no means,
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I don't know, it's just him talking about like, oh, it's
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crazy that like he would even work around the house and do
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this type of stuff as a man. Like that's what it's been
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brought to. And it's like, that's not that
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crazy anymore. Like that's expected that you
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take care of your baby. He's so ambitious.
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He even sews lots of guys. So it's like not that.
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And it's like saying like, don't forget, that's what you get,
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Jamaican Whoopi. It's like, this is like your
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punishment. And it's like that's not really
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how it goes anymore. So it just doesn't even work as
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a song anymore. True, true.
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And then there, there'll there'll be lots of especially
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the older ones if if you ever really investigate the music and
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the lyrics. And I think this is this is one
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of those that that does. It's a time that's forgotten
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almost maybe, yeah. And you know, one of the things
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that again, I'm I'm not, I'm not really a Sinatra fan, like I
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know is big stuff and, and knew maybe 2 from this album.
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And, and so as I was listening to it, you know, I heard the the
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making whoopee and then two songs later, anything goes.
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And as I'm listening to the lyrics there, which again, this
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is one of those that's I would say a little bit more difficult
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for me because it's it's the lyrics are in your face the
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entire album. And so I'm sitting there
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listening and like, all right, OK.
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And then get to anything goes and it's talking about, you
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know, opens with in olden days, a glimpse of stocking was looked
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on as something shocking. Now heaven knows anything goes
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and like, OK, it almost sounds like you're talking about how
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the world's coming to an end because everything's up in arms
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and people say whatever they want to.
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But like 2 songs earlier, you talking about making whoopee
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what the there's a, there's these two things don't really
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match. And that, that that kind of
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broke my head for a moment. You know the the logical side of
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me just like almost went OverDrive for a moment, but but
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you know, I found that funny. Yeah, I think my like the
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problem that I have with these two songs within the context of
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like Frank Sinatra, even if they're covered songs and we can
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talk about this more later, but Frank Sinatra was known to be
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pretty like progressive, like within civil rights movements
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and women's right. Like all of this stuff.
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I I'm like everywhere that I find says that he was like
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pretty progressive and a lot of his songs are not written by him
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but are like very warm towards women and very romantic and
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heavy on that. And then these two songs just
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switch and it's like, now we're talking about what women are
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wearing and like the idea of like strong ginger roles because
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of making a wolfie. And then anything goes and all
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of that, Like, and and that's not to say that there isn't
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commentary to be made on changes and how that affects you.
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And it's not even to say that like certain, like, you know,
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it's not to say that there's not commentary to be made.
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It's just it doesn't fit within the idea that I've had of Frank
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Sinatra as this like smooth, like pretty progressive guy for
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his time. Yeah.
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And I, and I guess in, in context, just, you know, looking
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it up real quick, making Whoopi was first done in 1928.
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The song And Then Anything Goes was 1934.
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Which also this is going to be a little awkward, all the people
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in music today. And I'm not saying I'm a fan of
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like all the crazy music today, but it happened recently with
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Taylor Swift. One of her songs would, which is
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a lot. But also with like all the rap
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songs, like people these days, all they think about is like sex
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and stuff like that. And I miss olden music.
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And I'm like, have you listened to old music?
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They also do that a lot. They just say it in weird ways.
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Here we go, Frank Sinatra. So, and we've we've listened to
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a few other. All the way back to all the way
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back to 1920s. So I I challenge you that if you
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have that idea, go listen to some like 20s music and listen
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closely 'cause they disguise it, but not that well.
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Yeah, and, and like this is one of those examples and yeah, and
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I would even, you know, I even with this one, like you, you
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can't hide. Like a lot of times in some of
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the rock'n'roll and and really like hair band rock of the 80s
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and stuff. It, it was hidden by the music,
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by the instruments, you know, and, and so you couldn't really
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understand it very well. No, like on this album, the
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lyrics weren't hiding anywhere. Everything was lyrically right
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in your face because just of, you know, it's a Sinatra voice.
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And so it, it was, Yeah. But anyway, any any anything
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else on yours that's all for? Me.
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So I I wrote that the second-half of the album.
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So really, after I've Got You Under My skin, it to me, it
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really wasn't as strong as the first portion.
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And and and so my note was any of these really could have been
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the least favorite for me for one reason or another.
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And and so in an effort not to pick all of them, I went with
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we'll be together. We'll be together again.
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And really, you know, you were you're like, OK, anything goes
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because it's it doesn't fit because it's not a love song,
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which most everything on here is a love song.
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We'll be together soon is a love song.
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It's a ballad. So it's really slow and man,
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like, OK, that's a really good song if you need to go to sleep
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because it'll knock you out. Sorry.
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Anyway, for anyone who wants to know what growing up with Father
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Pod was like, anytime you had a song that you really liked that
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was slow, it didn't matter if it was good.
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Be fake sleep on you every. Time.
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Every. Time so I that makes sense for
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you and it's you know, each of these like this is a this is a
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different music than than what our current culture maybe used
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to and even you and I what we're used to, but like all of them
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really, except for that one we're we're fairly upbeat and
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and from what I gathered, his album right before this one was
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like all ballads. So they were all, you know, slow
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and ballad. So glad we didn't have that
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album. A rough week, lots of sleep.
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And just yeah, it could be a great album.
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So favorites. Did you not have a second
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favorite? You just picked least favorite.
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You just picked one. It was all of them, and then
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that one. Yeah, it was like I could have
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picked one from any of really, the last, you know, 123456
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songs. They just, they just weren't as
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good as the first nine. So when I say half of the album,
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it's it's really not half. It's the first nine were good
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and then that that 10th song, I thought about you.
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It it it slowed down a little bit to me, I guess.
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And and maybe some of the others did have a slow down or or
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whatnot, but maybe maybe it was it slowed down, slow down even
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more with We'll Be Together again.
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Then the next song after that was making Whoopee.
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Then Anything Goes broke my head with the logic and I was just
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out at that point. Fair enough.
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So it may be more of a me problem than a album problem,
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admittedly. So by favorites.
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So I think this might be the first time that I think my 2
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favorites are gonna be the two most popular on this album.
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It's You Make Me Feel So Young and Pennies From Heaven think
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those are gonna be the top two. I may be wrong, but they're both
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really popular. You are.
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Oh, they're both really popular though.
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Whatever. You make me feel so young.
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Are we probably going by popularity on Spotify streams?
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Yeah, define popularity. Let me finish and then you'll
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you'll hear what I'm saying. OK.
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OK, so you make me feel so young.
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It's still used in media today. I've heard it.
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It's in movies, it's upbeat, it's happy, it is a love song,
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but it's not as basic and boring.
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It has a little bit more like jump and happy to it.
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So it it's good. And then pennies from heaven.
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I know it from movies. I do not know his I did not know
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his version. I knew like more modern and very
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fast-paced pennies from heaven and that is in movies today.
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The Pennies from Heaven with the very, it's very fast-paced.
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So I knew the song Pennies from Heaven and I liked his rendition
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of it. Not that it's it's much
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different. It's a little slower than the
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ones that I know, but I also just like that song.
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I like the little, it's not scat.
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It's just like they have their own little AD libs that they
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have back from that time and I like that.
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I like it whenever like it's just like something like like
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macaroni and all of a sudden like 5 people are singing it
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instead of just the one. And I'm like, sweet, I like
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this. I, I jam this.
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And so they're both really popular.
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And admittedly, I probably liked them more just because I
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recognized them because like you said, this, this music is very
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different than music today. But I mean, like with The
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Beatles and like some of those like more 60s artists, you, you
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start to hear more of like the influences that we still hear
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today before them. Even with Frank Sinatra, he's
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popular. But like it it's it's harder to
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see the connections to modern day music as much because it's
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just completely different. So having something that was
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like recognizable really helped me in this album.
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Something to like hold on to. Yeah.
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So those two songs ended up being some of my favorite.
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Yeah, it's just a an trivia 6° of Kevin Bacon bit.
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Elvis's first album was also the same year, so 56 and so his
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first album is is the famous one with Elvis written vertically,
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actually written horizontally, just like the London Calling,
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which you know, we we've already done as an episode so and I've.
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Drawn it. Yes.
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So go back and listen to London Calling for that connection.
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So my favorites one was I've Got You Under My Skin, which
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reportedly took 22 takes to get it correct.
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And obviously it's another love song.
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And the the music really goes hand in hand and, and, and a lot
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of these do goes hand in hand with the sound of Sinatra's
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voice. And so the arrangements of the
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orchestra play really well with his voice and then his voice
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interacts really well with the orchestra.
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And so the arranger that did it, let's see Nelson Riddle.
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So he and Nelson Riddle, I think had three or four different
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collaborations that they worked on.
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And I I can't remember which one this was.
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It wasn't their first one. It it, but I don't know if it
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was their last, but but it it they were, they were really good
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together. And you could see how that
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because they've been working together for a couple times, you
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could you could see how the orchestra and his voice really
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started playing well with each other.
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And then my favorite was just like yours, the first one.
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You make me feel so young. It's a great intro first song
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because it really does suck you in and it makes you happy, you
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know? Again mentioned they're all
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covers. This one is a cover of a 1946
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song and in a musical. 3 Little Girls in Blue, where I know it
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from, is also a movie. You know which movie it's in
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that we love that's that's coming up in Christmas season.
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Oh, that is where I know it. From it's from elf.
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So it's, it's when it's when Buddy goes to Jovi's apartment
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and they go, they do their date where they're running around New
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York, you know, and he, he takes her to the blindfoldser and
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takes her to get her favorite, the world's best cup of coffee.
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Then he's running through the revolving door telling her, you
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know, don't get sick. You know, they go ice skating,
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they see the tree. It's it's playing through
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through that entire thing. You got the wrong song.
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Pennies from Heaven is what's playing during that.
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That's the movie I know it from. No, it's you make me feel so
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young. Oh, Pennies from Heaven is also
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an elf then? Oh, it could be, but that's
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where I know it from that particular, that particular
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section is. You make me feel so young.
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Funnily enough. Pennies from Heaven because I I
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looked it up because that like made me remember.
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It's also an elf. And it's a version by Louis
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Prima. Or yeah, Louis Prima during a
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celebratory scene. Okay, did that.
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Is funny. Did not know.
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I think it's whenever he's going around like New York City, it
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plays pennies from heaven. OK, It's the shooby doobie.
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That's the ad libs I was talking about that I like.
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OK, alright. That's funny that both of these
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folks. That's good.
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Yeah, I wonder if, you know, it'd be interesting to see why
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there's a or what, what type of connection there was, because
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that's that's funny. There's two of them from from
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this album and and Elf. That's good.
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I didn't even I didn't even recognize pennies from Heaven.
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I just recognize there should be.
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Yeah, but the but the actual, the actual Sinatra version is
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the one in Elf when they're doing the when, when he takes
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her on, when he takes her on the date around the around the city.
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Sorry listeners to confuse you. We figure it out.
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We're we're. Sidetracking.
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We got there, we got there, all right?
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So why, why should people go listen to this album?
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People should listen to this album because I think, OK, we've
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talked about this in other albums and I think this was the
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closest thing that I could pin to Sinatra that I can relate to
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modern day music, if that makes sense.
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And it is he very. Much relies on the lyrics, yes,
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but relies on the delivery of the lyrics.
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So the emotional delivery more so than using the music to draw
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your emotions out, which we've talked about in Arcade Fire.
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We talked about it, I think a little bit with the Pixies and
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alt rock, like the use of changing your voice to have a
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very emotional full voice and like manipulating.
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That is definitely something that I noticed in Sinatra.
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And when I looked it up, it was something that he, he is pretty
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known for doing that being one of the people to like really
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emphasize that emotional part of his voice in his songs.
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Obviously Sinatra's not screaming out of nowhere and
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like almost crying, but it is a very like I used to say this,
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I've had a lot of singers growing up.
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It sounds like he's smiling when he's singing.
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Like I love when people sound like they're smiling as they're
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singing. And you can like tell.
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And I mean, happiness is. And being in love is an emotion
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too. So like you, you can almost feel
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the love in his voice more than you can in the lyrics or the
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instruments, which is really fun to like, just imagine like a
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very vividly see a picture of like just a guy in love singing
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a song, you know? Yeah.
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So, and, and to piggyback on, on, on Frank Sinatra, you know,
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just some, some things, you know, 'cause I think a lot of
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people will know the name Frank Sinatra, but you know, may not
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know or may not recognize. Maybe it's not the right word,
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recognize or appreciate maybe the artist that he was.
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And so he won 11 Grammys and was nominated for over 30 times.
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But The funny thing about it is this album came out in the in
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56. The Grammys didn't start until
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58. So he had already had a peak and
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then Destroyed went into the basement and this album was his
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second peak. And all of that happened before
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the Grammys even started. When did?
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He get destroyed. He like lost everything and
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maybe the late 40s early 50s. How do you lose it someone?
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He just lost his popularity. He had like a Vegas thing and
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and for whatever reason lost popularity and then came back in
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with with the previous album of this one and then this album and
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all of these were, you know, and so he had he had a career before
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the Grammys started that didn't get recognized, you know, and so
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it, it's really, it's really strange.
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You know, it's so the Grammys didn't start until two years
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after this album. And many, many people consider
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this album to be maybe his best album.
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So, you know, but he is the first two time winner and the
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first three time winner for the Grammy album of the year.
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And again, what most people consider his best album wouldn't
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even in that. So he's in the Grammy Hall of
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Fame and he is the winner of the Grammy Lifetime Award and the
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Legend Award and then some other things.
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That's all music. He has three stars at the
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Hollywood Walk of Fame, one for recording, obviously, but also
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one for motion pictures and for television.
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So he won the 1954 Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor.
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He's a four time Golden Globe winner, 1966 Peabody Peabody
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Award winner, 1971 Cecil B DeMille Award winner, 1983
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Kennedy's Center for the Performing Arts Medal of Honor,
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1985 Presidential Medal of Freedom.
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He is not not only a very, very good recording artist, he also
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did other things. And that often gets overlooked.
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So I feel like you got to put Sinatra into the right context
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even before we talk about this album.
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And that's very hard to do even even for me, you know?
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You forgot the most important one in my opinion.
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What's that? He got arrested for being too
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seductive in his younger years. That is good, that is good.
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I think that also, as silly as that is, it also gives an idea
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like he he was a heart dog of the time like that.
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That's another thing to be recognized, like a lot of his
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popularity was also because he was a hard child people loved.
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Him yeah, I mean think like you see the pictures of fans going
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crazy for Elvis and The Beatles like that.
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That was Sinatra's as well. I mean it, it so it's, it's,
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it's really hard to to think about that because you, you
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don't necessarily you don't necessarily get that from the
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music. So when we talk about the music,
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you, you think all those heart throbs and then you go listen to
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the swing in big band orchestral music and it's like, OK, but
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the, the album itself also Grammy Hall of Fame Sinatra
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aficionados, which I do not consider myself 1.
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So I'm going to tell you what I read about them.
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They rate this as pretty much his best album or second best
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and MIDI music critics. Again, I'm not one of those.
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But they also consider it to be one of the greatest albums of
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its era. So again, going back to the 40s,
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fifties and the other thing just again putting things in context
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because we, we talk about it all the time about the Grammys and
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about the charts and all this to determine like how great albums
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are because they were on the chart for so long or they did
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this for so long. He, this album was #1 on the
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original UK top album list. So the UK top album list started
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in 1956. And this was the first album
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that was the top of the list, you know, So it was there for
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two weeks, then lost the spot for two weeks, then regained it
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for another week. So you know, it, it's like, Oh,
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yeah, these albums and charts have been around forever.
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And then all of a sudden you, you listen to an album and it's
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like, Oh yeah, it was the first album.
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Oh, this is lots of people say this is his best album.
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Oh, did it win a Grammy? Oh no, the Grammys won the
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thing. So it's like mind mind blowing
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but. Like going off of that too, I
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think once they're not, it's your type of music I would say.
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Was it often being said that it's said to be one of the best
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albums of this era? And you're like, why?
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Like, why this album? Like whatever.
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And then you realize that Frank Sinatra is one of the only
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artist that's like a household name from this era still.
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And it's like, well, there's something special about his
27:59
music that's lasting. And personally, I think, I don't
28:06
know if this is controversial or not.
28:07
If you're a Sinatra fan, don't come after me.
28:11
But I think part of it is because of Michael Bublé.
28:15
I 'cause he he sang the songs, he has the jazzy feel.
28:19
He kind of re brought on that persona of like lovable, like
28:22
charismatic guy and kind of re brought back that spike of that
28:29
being kind of the type of music that people wanted to listen to
28:33
'cause that's how I knew Frank Sinatra's songs with Michael
28:36
Bublé covers. Yeah, so partially.
28:39
But that's also not to discredit Sinatra's impact on music.
28:43
Like obviously it's it's people are still going back to his
28:45
music, not just ending it to Bublé.
28:48
But I I think that there is something to that, that it's
28:52
still a household name. Yeah, yeah, true.
28:55
You know, and, and all that to say, I mean, it's, it's
28:58
definitely a sound of the past. You know, you, you, you don't
29:04
really hear this as mainstream as you once did.
29:09
You know, in the 50s, this was pop music like this.
29:12
This is not pop music anymore. Which, OK, this is this was kind
29:17
of funny when I noticed it. To me, even though none of none
29:22
of these songs or Christmas songs, they all sounded like
29:27
Christmas songs because the most popular Christmas songs were all
29:30
from this era. And that's the only time you
29:32
really listen to this type of music is like Christmas.
29:36
So like just the instrumentals brought me to like Christmas
29:40
time because I was like, oh, that's how I know this music.
29:44
You don't hear many Christmas musics from today.
29:46
You hear a lot of that, like, rocking around the Christmas
29:47
tree and like all of these old Christmas songs that have this
29:51
jazzy feel in the orchestra and very prominent lyrics with
29:55
soulful voices. So all of these love songs, all
29:59
I could think about was Christmas.
30:01
Yeah. Well, just like the stores.
30:05
I mean, Christmas decorations are already out.
30:08
Which I also after after talking with you, it's also making me
30:12
realize that that may just be because two of these songs are
30:15
an elf and we watch that every year at Christmas time.
30:19
True the subliminal elf coming out to get us.
30:23
Man, what a great movie So. A household staple.
30:28
Yeah, yeah. All right, anything else about
30:34
Watch, people should go listen to it.
30:36
Not for me. All right, best beaten bar.
30:40
So Riley, what what was your what was your favorite lyric
30:43
from the album? So my favorite lyric was from
30:47
I've Got You Under My Skin, which you've talked about a
30:50
little bit, but it's just the opening lyrics.
30:54
It's I've got you under my skin, I've got you deep in the heart
30:57
of mine, so deep in my heart that you're really a part of me.
31:00
I just think that's a really sweet lyric.
31:02
I am not always the biggest love song like generic love song
31:08
person because I think they just get very overused and the lyrics
31:14
are very similar and it kind of gets a little much.
31:18
So I really like it when any love song gets like extra sweet
31:23
or extra unique and how they try to portray it and all of that.
31:27
And this isn't that unique, but it it still stands out enough to
31:31
where it warm my little heart a little bit more than some of the
31:35
other more generic lyrics. Just the idea that you're just
31:39
so in love with someone and they do become like a part of you
31:42
that you can't necessarily get rid of.
31:45
Yeah. So.
31:46
You've got them under your skin, you know, and, and ironically
31:51
enough, my best beat same song. So it's really at about two
31:58
minutes and 16 seconds. There's a little orchestral
32:03
build up to it. And then there is a trombone
32:08
solo. So like, you're not going to
32:11
have guitars. And so we've talked about the
32:15
guitar solos and all the distortions and we got so much
32:19
of that and, and all these albums that we that we cover.
32:23
This was a trombone solo and it was done very nice.
32:28
And, you know, as I was listening to it, I was like, I,
32:31
I do believe that's a trombone because of the way that it was
32:35
sliding is, is what is what eventually tipped me off.
32:39
But it's in a higher register than what you normally hear
32:44
trombones play in. So again, impressive enough for
32:49
that. But it's lasts about 30 seconds.
32:51
And so it's a really good again, don't hear them that often.
32:57
Maybe you do if you go listen to a bunch of 1950s albums, but I
33:02
don't hear them that often. Trombone solos.
33:05
All right. Ratings.
33:06
What are your ratings, Riley? This one's complicated, even
33:10
more so it's what you've said. Because like with being such a
33:14
lyric person, these aren't his lyrics like his songs.
33:20
So it's hard to like give him an objective rating when it's like
33:25
there's so many different artists and I haven't heard like
33:27
the original songs or like anything to kind of like get a
33:30
basis it, it kind of makes it a little bit more difficult.
33:34
But I would say like Frank Sinatra himself and the
33:38
combination of these songs, I'm giving it an 8 because of those
33:42
two songs that just were like really the back half of this
33:46
album. Like you said, I I also thought
33:49
the same thing. It gets and this is a harsh
33:51
word, but it's for like a better word.
33:53
It's forgettable towards the end and just becomes very
33:57
monotonous, which this album is. I don't want to discredit how
34:02
great this album is in music history, how great Sinatra is in
34:06
music history, but I also wouldn't say that it's a 10 by
34:09
any means, especially when looking at some of the music
34:14
we've looked at. But it's still really great
34:17
because it led to that and it was very impactful at the time.
34:22
Personal rating, I give it a three.
34:26
I really didn't like it. Listen, listen.
34:31
We talked about it a little bit on Ed Sheeran and I may have
34:34
contradicted myself a little bit on Reliant K, but I'm not a love
34:39
song person. I'm not a generic love song
34:42
person. That's why I like Candlelight by
34:44
Reliant K is because it's about being so bright that you're
34:47
going to attract moths. Like, that's not normal for a
34:51
love song. That's weird, and I like weird.
34:55
I like weird. I like really unique depictions
34:57
of stuff like that. But generic love songs, I really
35:01
can't stand them most of the time.
35:03
They get on my nerves with it being monotonous.
35:06
Every song sounded the same. It it kind of goes back.
35:10
We talked about this a little bit with ACDC.
35:13
I don't think we haven't recorded that, but personally a
35:17
little bit of a spoiler when every song sounds so similar,
35:23
the way we do this podcast can kind of hurt itself.
35:27
We listen to it for a week and we don't draw it out.
35:30
So it's like listening to this album is about 45 minutes. 45
35:34
minutes is essentially it feels like just one song and then
35:37
you're doing that multiple times a week.
35:40
It it becomes annoying, which is sad and discredits a little bit
35:48
of the personal rating. And that's why it's a personal
35:50
rating and not objective, but it just listen to the 45 minutes,
35:56
the same sound over and over again and when you don't even
36:00
really care for that sound. Right, especially that's that's
36:03
it when it's outside of your comfort zone, the listening to
36:06
it over and over again does get and it gets difficult.
36:11
But yeah, so I apologize to all of those Sinatra heads out
36:14
there, but this one was rough for me.
36:17
Yeah, so I. Think that means I rated it
36:19
lower than the psych pistol. You, you, you did, but you are
36:28
not alone because so did I so, but not not by that much.
36:34
So my, my personal rating was A5.
36:36
Like it's, it's not my music, but yet there was essentially a
36:42
1/2 of it that I appreciated. And then and what I'm calling
36:46
1/2. So it, it probably, if, if I'm
36:48
going by that, maybe the range should be a little bit higher,
36:50
but not really. And then the last portion of it
36:54
just really didn't, didn't do it for me objectively, though, I
36:58
did go higher than you. I did go 9.
37:00
And, and really just because of who's Sinatra, of what his
37:06
career looks like. And then again, I'm not a
37:10
Sinatra aficionado. You see, I gave it A5, so I'm
37:15
not out trying to listen to more Sinatra.
37:18
So I'm going to take the critics and the aficionados word for it
37:21
that says this is his best album.
37:25
And when they say it's his best album, I can look at his body of
37:29
work and go, OK, it's it's got a blight.
37:33
It's got to be pretty good. And like you said, I don't, I
37:37
don't know how you could get from Sinatra to this, to this,
37:42
to this, to something today that I would say is, is in my alley,
37:49
you know, based on people saying, oh, this, this
37:53
influenced me and this influenced me.
37:54
But I'm, I'm sure it's there. And you know, because you you
38:00
don't get to the point of who he was without a massive list of
38:06
people coming after you that say I was influenced by a Sinatra in
38:10
in one way or the other, You know, because it it may not be
38:15
the swing or the jazz or the big band.
38:18
And obviously because most of that's gone, but yet you
38:22
mentioned some things that he's done with his voices and things
38:26
and and emotion that I'm sure people would say.
38:30
Yeah, I've, I really like the way that Sinatra was able to do
38:33
that. So I'm sure it's there.
38:35
I didn't dig to really find it. So a 5 and 9 for me.
38:42
Fair enough. So what is your song of the
38:46
week? My side of the week is an oldie.
38:50
Not an oldie. It's an oldie for us.
38:53
Is it night from 1950? No, it was no.
38:57
This one was made when I was alive, but it's just a throwback
39:00
for the two of us. Unfortunately, that's not an
39:04
oldie for me. It it's in tenderness by
39:08
citizens. OK.
39:11
Such a good song. Such a fun little tune they
39:16
performed. We saw them live a while ago.
39:19
They actually tried the song out on us.
39:22
This they it was like they hadn't recorded it yet.
39:24
They were just trying it out and it's such a good song.
39:28
Not us like personally, but. Right.
39:32
Yeah, No, we were in the audience, a small audience, but
39:36
we were in it. And it's just, it's such a good
39:41
song and they they've grown to make more incredible music,
39:45
which has been really cool to see.
39:48
But they play at Was that like a youth encounter weekend at the
39:51
church? Yeah, yeah, a church event they
39:53
played out for us. And then I saw them recently
39:58
opening for Christian Zima in Mill and mine.
40:01
And that was a really cool like turn of events just to kind of
40:05
see how they've grown and go from like a very small church
40:08
event to. Like 400 people in the crowd was
40:13
like honestly, but just a great tune.
40:17
One of our older ones, one of their first ones.
40:19
It's fun, it's very poppy but in a great way and great lyrics in
40:25
my opinion. So, so, so at the time when they
40:28
wrote that, were they, weren't they citizen and citizens and
40:32
citizens? And Saints, yeah.
40:33
And now they're just citizens. So if you if you happen to look
40:36
at look, look it up or look for it could be under citizens and
40:40
Saints, but you should still be able to find it under citizens
40:43
as well. So yeah.
40:45
On Spotify, its citizens so. Yeah, OK, good.
40:48
Just in case people look it up on some other one or just on on
40:53
the interwebs, it may be a different name.
40:58
So my song of the week is a shout out to Mama Barber, and it
41:06
is cautioned by the Killers because she told me that this
41:12
better be my song of the week this week.
41:15
So I'm listening. But you know, we went to live at
41:22
the Shell this past week and it was a country Blues Festival and
41:29
North Mississippi All Stars plays that every year and they
41:33
are incredible. They put on a fantastic show.
41:36
So a Memphis music family, let's see, it's Luther Dickinson and
41:43
Cody Dickinson are in North Mississippi All Stars.
41:45
Their dad was Jim Dickinson, all of them musical master of minds,
41:51
and they're all from Memphis. Luther, I think played guitar on
41:57
maybe 5 Black Crowes albums, Number six, he's he's wonderful
42:04
guitar player. But so we went to that concert
42:08
and while we're sitting there, we're talking about different
42:11
music and and and she was, we were talking about the Pixies
42:16
and she was trying to think of this song Caution.
42:19
And we finally got to it from the Killers, but imploding The
42:23
Mirage album from twenty 20's. The song's got this dreamy
42:28
sequence that starts it for about 45 seconds or so, and then
42:32
it just kicks into the power pop really song throughout.
42:39
And it's really an upbeat song, throwing obviously caution to
42:43
the wind and taking some sort of risk in in doing something.
42:47
And the, you know, I really like the song and it's got something
42:53
that goes against the normal pop song template we've talked about
42:58
in a couple other songs. Alive from Pearl Jam comes comes
43:02
to mind where it's got the main guitar solo at the end and so
43:10
the guitar solo is really good and also 6° of Kevin Bacon.
43:18
The guitar solo is performed the the studio version is done by
43:22
Lindsey Buckingham of Fleetwood Mac, which is another album
43:27
we've listened to but we have not recorded yet.
43:31
And those that go watch the video over at YouTube will get
43:36
our eyes reaction, but we'll save that to make you go watch
43:40
it. So just another way to see all
43:44
these all these bands interacting.
43:46
It's it's always neat to see that.
43:49
So that's that's my song of the week cautioned by the killers.
43:54
So I think that brings us to our next album, right?
43:59
Yes, which is a very special one.
44:00
Special So what's the album? The album is.
44:07
I guess before you tell everybody why it's special, we
44:11
should probably tell people what the album is.
44:13
The album is Abbey Road by The Beatles.
44:16
It's very special because we're going to be joined by someone
44:20
that will introduce next episode.
44:23
But he has been mentioned on the podcast before.
44:25
He's been mentioned in Oh, we can enter, I don't.
44:29
It's it's yeah, you you you know him by name, but Charles Mooney.
44:33
So he's he's a, a Co worker now, but at one point in time in a in
44:39
a previous life, old Charles was a music critic.
44:43
So had a music magazine, you know, and, and still to this day
44:48
loves his music always. You know, we're, we're more
44:52
hybrid now, but when he is at the office, always has his
44:56
earphones on listening to music. Specifically, Wham.
45:00
Makes it makes it very easy to sneak up on him, you know, but
45:06
he is also a huge Beatles fan. So it'll be interesting,
45:09
especially when we get to the why should people listen to this
45:12
list? You know, me and Riley can go
45:16
like make a sandwich and have dinner and then come back and he
45:20
may still be going, but that's that's going to be good to get a
45:24
a good a good different perspective on things.
45:26
So I'm looking forward to expanding our conversations to
45:31
include other people so, you know.
45:34
Yeah, and maybe I can I can have AI would the he was mentioned in
45:39
the podcast because you were saying he would love that I was
45:43
making fun of you and trying to get a get rise out of you 'cause
45:46
you do that to him. Yeah, he should have thought
45:50
twice before he texted you saying that he really tried to
45:54
listen to my album. He really tried.
45:58
He had an ally. He had an ally against it.
46:00
He should think twice now. Yeah.
46:03
I'll pick his mind. Looking looking forward to that.
46:06
And we're also thinking about some other people that we can
46:09
bring in, you know, some sometimes people that are just
46:15
like us that don't really know what they're talking about, but
46:19
yet we just love music. And then others more like
46:23
Charles that do have a music background that can maybe get
46:26
into some of the nuts and bolts and weeds about some of these
46:29
things. And, and some of the things that
46:33
that maybe is, is you just listen to music that you miss or
46:36
never knew. So I'm looking forward to that
46:40
and some other ones that we've we've got coming up.
46:44
So if that fits you and you'd like to join us for your
46:49
favorite album or something, by all means, e-mail us.
46:53
Reach out to us if you like the Segway, reach out to us on
46:56
socials and let us know. So we are at X Facebook and
47:05
Instagram, Barber cuts pod and also over at YouTube, our
47:12
channel there. So we got 2 episodes up, well,
47:17
three once this one comes out. And then as I go back and fine
47:22
tune some of the older recordings, I'll get some more
47:24
up there along the way as well. So from some of our past
47:28
episodes. So reach out to any of those and
47:34
let us know what you think. In the meantime, we will get out
47:40
of here so that that lemur on top of Riley's head doesn't
47:44
attack her because, like, we need her to stick around.
47:49
So until next time, Yeah. See another way to make him go
47:52
watch the video. Until next time, I'm Todd.
47:56
And I'm Riley, and this is another episode of Barbara Cut.