Latest / Yes And Land / National Treasure and the Courage to Declare | Ryan Gregerson
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- 0:00Welcome to Yes And Land, where we say yes to
- 0:04the reality of yesterday and today, and we say
- 0:08and to the possibility, growth, and imagination
- 0:11of tomorrow. In 80 days, on July 4th, 2026, this
- 0:24nation turns 250 years old. Right now, I'm in
- 0:28Washington, D .C. And I've just been at the National
- 0:31Archives, where earlier I was looking at the
- 0:34Declaration of Independence. Not a copy, the
- 0:38document. The one signed by 56 men who knew when
- 0:43they put pen to paper that if they lost the war,
- 0:46that piece of parchment was their death warrant.
- 0:48Today, we're talking about the courage to declare
- 0:51using a film that was practically made for this
- 0:55moment, National Treasure. Because what Ben Gates
- 0:58understood, And what those 56 men understood
- 1:01is that some things are worth risking everything
- 1:04for. And the question 250 years later is whether
- 1:09we still believe that. Here is what some people
- 1:11miss when they think about the founding of America.
- 1:14They picture ceremony, quill pens, wax seals,
- 1:18history unfolding in slow motion with the right
- 1:21music behind it. They do not picture what it
- 1:24actually was. A group of educated, terrified
- 1:27men committing treason the 2004 disney film national
- 1:32treasure opens with a grandfather passing a secret
- 1:35to his grandson a secret carried by their family
- 1:38for generations a secret so important has been
- 1:41hidden on the most protected document in american
- 1:44history the declaration of independence what
- 1:47i love about the film is not the treasure hunt
- 1:50it's it's the idea underneath it that the founding
- 1:53fathers were not just building a country They
- 1:56were building something they intended to last.
- 1:59And early in the film, the main character, Ben
- 2:01Gates, makes this declaration that sounds insane
- 2:04to everyone around him. I'm going to steal the
- 2:07Declaration of Independence. Now, strip away
- 2:10the movie plot and what Ben Gates is actually
- 2:13saying is, I'm going to do what no one else believes
- 2:17is necessary. I'm going to act when everyone
- 2:19around me thinks I am wrong. I'm going to declare
- 2:22my intention. before i have any guarantee of
- 2:26success and that is exactly what the founders
- 2:29did they declared their vision of a nation that
- 2:33did not yet exist when george washington's army
- 2:36was was starving and without enough arms or ammunition
- 2:39after i visited national archives i also visited
- 2:42ford's theater where our 14th president president
- 2:45abraham lincoln was shot a man who believed deeply
- 2:48in the principles found in the declaration of
- 2:51independence and I just finished seeing in that
- 2:54theater 1776, a musical about the Declaration
- 2:58being brought to life, how the divided colonies
- 3:02came together for the notion of a nation that
- 3:05they wanted to build, laying it all on the line
- 3:08in unity achieved through debate and discourse
- 3:10and a belief in what was right. One cannot do
- 3:15something like that without being profoundly,
- 3:17terrifyingly vulnerable. As Brene Brown said,
- 3:22vulnerability is not winning or losing. It's
- 3:25having the courage to show up and be seen when
- 3:29we have no control over the outcome. The founders
- 3:33had no control over the outcome. They were pledging
- 3:36their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred
- 3:39honor to something that could absolutely fail.
- 3:44That vulnerability was not a weakness in the
- 3:47plan. It was the point. Courage without the possibility
- 3:50of loss is not courage. It's just confidence.
- 3:54There's a scene in National Treasure that I think
- 3:56about perhaps more than any other scene in that
- 3:58film. Ben Gates raises a glass and makes a toast,
- 4:02not to victory, not to the treasure, but to high
- 4:06treason. And he says, to high treason. That's
- 4:09what these men were committing when they signed
- 4:11the declaration. Had we lost the war, they would
- 4:15have been hanged beheaded drawn and quartered
- 4:17and disemboweled their entrails would have been
- 4:20cut out and burned so here's to the men who did
- 4:24what was considered wrong in order to do what
- 4:27they knew was right as an attorney i've spent
- 4:30my career in a system built on the foundation
- 4:33of those that those 56 men created and i will
- 4:38tell you the courage that framework required
- 4:40is not abstract to me i have felt it myself early
- 4:46in my career i as a practicing attorney had the
- 4:49blessing and opportunity to be able to go to
- 4:50court i had my first hearing before a court commissioner
- 4:54in a family law case it's called a temporary
- 4:57orders hearing in a custody case my client was
- 5:00the father he he had a child that was young three
- 5:04or four years old that desperately needed protection
- 5:06Now, we had done the work. We had cross -referenced
- 5:08social media posts on MySpace at the time, this
- 5:11is how many years ago this was, with dates that
- 5:14she was supposed to have the child, that she
- 5:15had her parent time nights where she had said
- 5:18things on social media like she was blackout
- 5:20drunk, like she was drunk again, she didn't remember
- 5:23anything that happened. So we had all of our
- 5:26own public admissions on the time that she was
- 5:28supposed to have this child. And yet, having
- 5:31done the work, I was nervous. I had never done
- 5:33a family law court hearing before. And this one
- 5:35carried real weight for a real child that needed
- 5:38real protection. But I prepared. I believed in
- 5:41my training. I believed in the law. I believed
- 5:43in what was right. And I walked in anyway. And
- 5:47thankfully, my client won. He was granted sole
- 5:50physical custody of his child with important
- 5:52restrictions placed on the opposing party. And
- 5:55that child's life was made safer because someone,
- 5:58my client and myself, were willing to show up,
- 6:00be vulnerable in my inexperience and something
- 6:03brand new to my client as well, and try to do
- 6:05what was right. Now, this is what the founders
- 6:08did on a very different scale of course, with
- 6:11high, high personal stakes. James Clear said,
- 6:15every action you take is a vote for the type
- 6:17of person you wish to become. Every step I took
- 6:22into that courtroom was a vote. Every step Jefferson
- 6:25took toward the quill was a vote. Not just for
- 6:29what he or they wanted to accomplish, but for
- 6:32who they were declaring themselves to be. At
- 6:36my firm, one of our core values is simple. Have
- 6:38courage and be kind. It comes from another Disney
- 6:42movie, a favorite of mine, the live -action Cinderella.
- 6:45And while today we are firmly in national treasure
- 6:47territory, I've never been able to separate these
- 6:50ideas. Courage without kindness is recklessness,
- 6:53and kindness without courage is just niceness
- 6:56or politeness. Now, when the founders wrote the
- 7:01document, they had both. They wrote to King George
- 7:03with extraordinary precision and care, even as
- 7:06they were declaring independence from him. The
- 7:09Declaration of Independence is, among many things,
- 7:11a masterpiece of respectful defiance. They named
- 7:15their grievances, they made their case, and then
- 7:17they drew the line. Firm. resolute, unapologetically
- 7:22courageous. That balance is something we have
- 7:26largely lost in public discourse. The Founding
- 7:29Fathers showed us a third path, to be honest,
- 7:32to be clear, to be kind, and be absolutely unwilling
- 7:35to back down from what is right. Here's one of
- 7:38the most important things about the Declaration
- 7:40of Independence that sometimes we forget. When
- 7:43they signed it, They had not won the war. They
- 7:46had not established the country. They had not
- 7:48even survived this summer yet. The declaration
- 7:51was not a report of what had happened. It was
- 7:55a statement of what they believed before the
- 7:57evidence was in. This is the hardest version
- 8:00of courage. Not the courage to say, I told you
- 8:03so after the victory. The courage to declare
- 8:05your conviction before you know whether you will
- 8:08win. In National Treasure, there is a moment
- 8:11that captures this perfectly. Ben Gates had already
- 8:15tried to warn the authorities. He had gone through
- 8:17the proper channels because somebody had said
- 8:21they were going to steal the Declaration of Independence.
- 8:23But nobody listened. Nobody believed in him.
- 8:25And nobody was going to. So when someone asks
- 8:29him, why does it have to be you? Why can't someone
- 8:31else handle this? He answers in three simple
- 8:35words. Someone has to. Not because he is the
- 8:39most qualified, not because he has the institutional
- 8:41backing, not because he has a guarantee that
- 8:44it will work. Just because nobody else was going
- 8:48to. And he had decided that was reason enough.
- 8:52The founding fathers understood this exactly.
- 8:56Nobody else was going to stand up to the most
- 8:59powerful empire in the world on behalf of a group
- 9:03of colonies that had not proven they could survive
- 9:06on their own. Nobody was going to write that
- 9:09document. Nobody else was going to sign it, except
- 9:13somebody had to. On this 250th anniversary, also
- 9:19poses this question to you personally, in your
- 9:21own life, in your work, your relationships, your
- 9:24community. Where have you been waiting for someone
- 9:28else to go first? Where have you been telling
- 9:31yourself that someone more qualified, more prepared,
- 9:35More certain of the outcome should be the one
- 9:38to step up. Because the founding fathers were
- 9:42not more qualified than you. They were just done
- 9:45waiting. Simon Sinek said, leaders are the ones
- 9:49who have the courage to go first, to put themselves
- 9:52at personal risk, to open the path for others
- 9:56to follow. The founders went first. They put
- 10:01themselves at personal risk. and every generation
- 10:04since has followed the path they opened now your
- 10:08declaration does not have to be a revolution
- 10:10but it should be honest and it should be yours
- 10:14250 years ago 56 ordinary men did something extraordinary
- 10:21they were not mythical figures they were attorneys
- 10:25farmers mechanics and physicians who were by
- 10:29any reasonable measure scared The system they
- 10:33built was not perfect, and they knew that. But
- 10:36they built it to be improved, argued over, and
- 10:39protected by every generation that followed.
- 10:42As an attorney, I do not see the law as simply
- 10:44a set of rules. I see it as a living commitment
- 10:48to the ideals that were declared in that building,
- 10:52in that document, 250 years ago this July. And
- 10:56being here today, I feel the full weight of that
- 11:00commitment. The question is not whether the founders
- 11:03were courageous. History answered that. The question
- 11:06is whether we are. So here are my three recommended
- 11:11actionable takeaways. Number one, read it. Read
- 11:15the Declaration of Independence this week, not
- 11:18as a history assignment, but as a personal one.
- 11:21Read the name to the bottom. Let it land that
- 11:24these were real people with real families who
- 11:27risked real lives to give you and I what we have
- 11:30now. It'll take you less than 10 minutes. Do
- 11:34it before July 4th. Takeaway two, name it. Identify
- 11:39one area of your life where you have been playing
- 11:42it safe when courage is actually called for.
- 11:45Write it down. This is your personal declaration.
- 11:50The founders did not win their freedom by simply
- 11:53thinking about it. They named it in ink for the
- 11:57world to see. Takeaway three. declared. Now go
- 12:02one step further. Write down the one specific
- 12:06courageous action you will take to face the thing
- 12:10you just named. Not someday, this week. As Benjamin
- 12:15Franklin said, never put off to tomorrow what
- 12:19you can do today. As you lead this conversation,
- 12:23remember that yes, the past can hurt and you
- 12:27can either run from it or you can learn from
- 12:29it. So here's to learning and finding joy in
- 12:33the journey. See you real soon.