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Trade Deadline grades, Yanks cut Stroman, Cubs & Red Sox defend moves · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: All right, who's drunk from the trade deadline? Mentally? Yeah, hungover, hungover?
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  Speaker 1: Trade deadline was drunk in a good way. Ken Rosenthal
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  Speaker 1: said it was one of the most exciting trade deadlines
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  Speaker 1: that he's ever covered. Really, Ken's covered a lot of them.
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  Speaker 2: It has covered a lot of them.
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  Speaker 1: At least a quarter century of Ken coverage.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, look, we're on TV.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, we were on yesterday and we're on
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  Speaker 1: every single weekday plus shout out to the online crowd
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  Speaker 1: that was watching. We had our highest numbers ever.
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  Speaker 2: The trade deadline was a lot of people, but not
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  Speaker 2: a lot of huge names. Korea, right, but none of
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  Speaker 2: the none of the giant names. We thought our contrast.
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  Speaker 1: Sees well, just starting pitching, hell pitching didn't players either, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but there weren't many available.
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  Speaker 2: No, I guess you're right.
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  Speaker 1: Genoures moved, Kwan didn't didn't move one. Yeah, Korea saved
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  Speaker 1: the day yesterday, did he? I don't think so.
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  Speaker 2: You think he doesn't get Jason Miller saved the day.
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  Speaker 1: A J. Preller saved the day, Yes, A J.
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  Speaker 2: Prowler man one man day saver.
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  Speaker 1: I was worried about AJ because I'm always worried about
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  Speaker 1: AJ and at the start of yesterday's five and a
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  Speaker 1: half hour marathon, he said he was going to have
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  Speaker 1: attention span issues, and I asked him, if we got
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  Speaker 1: to trade every thirty to sixty minutes of decent significance,
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  Speaker 1: if that would keep him on the show, and that
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  Speaker 1: was the agreement, and he stayed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I only had to go for one. I had
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  Speaker 2: to take one phone call.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was legit confirmed. It was legit confirmed,
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  Speaker 1: It was legit. It was a source. Yes, we have sources.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes people don't realize we have sources. We've been in
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  Speaker 1: the game for a long time. We say things that
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  Speaker 1: sometimes are just our opinion, but often it's informed opinion.
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  Speaker 1: Just throwing that out there. Sometimes people disagree with me
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  Speaker 1: on things like the Mets getting Cedric Mullens got into
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  Speaker 1: it with some Mets fans on YouTube, and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: maybe I know something they got him. Yeah, anyway, let's
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  Speaker 1: recap and then later we're gonna go over trade grades.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about Nightingale. Later, we're still doing a
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  Speaker 1: full fledged trade deadline hangover show coming your way. About
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  Speaker 1: one hundred prospects we're dealt think about fifty trades there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot to get to. Let's charge.
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  Speaker 2: About.
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  Speaker 1: This is just overall takeaways from what you saw. You
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  Speaker 1: know who, this was past the show. You know who
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  Speaker 1: got a little extra cash. Jordan Montgomery trade bonus.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't understand. So did did Diamondbacks just eat
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  Speaker 2: his money just to get him out of the clubhouse?
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  Speaker 2: What it means he really even around? I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: But he's not pitching, and I know he's a free agent.
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  Speaker 2: So why would the Brewers take on a salary.
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  Speaker 1: As part of the deal to get Shelby Miller?
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  Speaker 2: So they just took on twenty million? What's Jordan Montgomery, Macon,
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  Speaker 2: He's making a lot. It doesn't make sense to me.
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  Speaker 2: Why would the Brewers do that. They wanted Shelby Miller
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  Speaker 2: that bad? They take on that money not get a player.
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  Speaker 1: No, I'm sure that they ate most of the money
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  Speaker 1: the diamond Back probably right Krats probably, yes, yeah, yes,
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  Speaker 1: the Brewers don't take on money like that, And I.
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  Speaker 3: Think the Brewers, I think the Brewers took on the
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  Speaker 3: rest of Shelby Miller's money. I have no idea what
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  Speaker 3: it is, but that's where I think it can't be there.
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  Speaker 3: Probably it can't be much. But I also think they
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  Speaker 3: could Scott and I were talking about before the show.
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  Speaker 3: I think it could be like a Big WU situation. Money. Hey,
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  Speaker 3: we've rehabbed this, We've done this with Wade Miley, we
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  Speaker 3: did this with Big Wu. Like, hey, well maybe negotiate.
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  Speaker 3: See how your recovery's coming. We'll rehab you through this
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  Speaker 3: process and we'll give you kind of like that two
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  Speaker 3: year with a hook kind of thing or one year
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  Speaker 3: with a hook kind of contract might be an easy
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  Speaker 3: way to get him in the fold for next year.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's smart. Yeah, you got a first hand
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  Speaker 1: look at him, and one team did not want him
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  Speaker 1: in the org.
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  Speaker 2: It was a it was a person did not want
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  Speaker 2: him anywhere around that pace.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like he's bad guy. They just had beef
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  Speaker 1: and the owner was not pleased with how things worked out.
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  Speaker 1: It's his team, so he gets to do what he wants.
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  Speaker 1: I give credit to the Padres ownership group for letting
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  Speaker 1: aj Preller cook. Now he wasn't given a lot of
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  Speaker 1: leeway with adding money. Yeah, but still, I mean he
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  Speaker 1: got rid of a third of their farm system in
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  Speaker 1: terms of actual valuable prospects, you know, which is usually
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  Speaker 1: looked at as your top thirty. He gave about a
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  Speaker 1: third of those top thirty prospects away, a total of
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  Speaker 1: twenty two prospects traded away by AJ Preller and Crafts.
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  Speaker 1: I can see by your face expression you're freaking out.
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  Speaker 1: Are you going to tell me how most of these
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  Speaker 1: guys didn't cost anything?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, they didn't. They didn't cost anything. You think the
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  Speaker 2: ownership group.
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  Speaker 3: That's there right now, I don't know how invested they
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  Speaker 3: are or the executor of the state is invested. Do
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  Speaker 3: you think they care which of the guys in the
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  Speaker 3: minor leagues that somehow in their eyes a J. Peller
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  Speaker 3: keeps replenishing and keeps additional way do you think they care?
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  Speaker 1: Like? Oh, man, I can't.
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  Speaker 2: Believe you think they do. You think that executor of
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  Speaker 2: the estate cares?
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  Speaker 1: So this is actually a good inside baseball moment. We
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  Speaker 1: have been critical of certain front offices that don't push
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  Speaker 1: their chips in, and we'll get to some of those
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  Speaker 1: front offices later. But let's not act like they're the
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  Speaker 1: loan actors. Everything is done by one control person on
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  Speaker 1: a team, and that control person often is hugging prospects
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  Speaker 1: as well. Krats. Now they get advice from their front
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  Speaker 1: office executive, but they have to buy into that too,
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  Speaker 1: because ultimately it's their team. And they can say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I'm the owner of the Cubs or I'm the owner
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  Speaker 1: of the Red Sox, and I understand you're saying the
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  Speaker 1: twelfth prospect is going to be the next big thing,
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  Speaker 1: but history tells me no, So I'm going to disagree
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  Speaker 1: with you. And you work for me, so you do
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  Speaker 1: have to be on the same page to an extent.
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  Speaker 1: And Padre's ownership said, yeah, you know what you're doing.
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  Speaker 1: You've done a great job of developing prospects, you deal
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  Speaker 1: away and grow them back.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, that's fair because of one prospect that he kept
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  Speaker 3: Rookie of the Year Jackson Merrill, or could have been
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  Speaker 3: Rookie of the Year Jackson Merril.
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  Speaker 1: Right, he kept a potential star. M traded away a
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  Speaker 1: potential star this time.
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  Speaker 2: Around, because they can we put that board up there again?
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  Speaker 2: How many? How many prospects do they trade away?
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  Speaker 1: But can we put the board with twenty two?
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  Speaker 2: Okay? And how many can we put the board up
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  Speaker 2: of who they who they got got back? Let's count
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  Speaker 2: those guys and read them out. Was it eight guys
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  Speaker 2: that got back seven seven, seven, seven bonafied big league
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  Speaker 2: guys one two three, Yes, that's seven bona fide big
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  Speaker 2: leaguers seven for twenty two prospects twenty one. I'm probably
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  Speaker 2: ain't gonna do anything in the big leagues. They might
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  Speaker 2: make it, they might have a year or two, but
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  Speaker 2: they ain't gonna be Maybe the Divires kid is something, okay,
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  Speaker 2: but the rest of those guys, Audios Mucucco's from a
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  Speaker 2: player on the Potters, I'm like, Audios Mucucco's chuaas, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Audios chihuahuas. See later, we got Mason Miller, Sears, O'Hearn.
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  Speaker 3: Loriano controllable guys, yeah, controssidesharn and I have no herd
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  Speaker 3: what the Patters did, and they traded their one, three, seven,
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  Speaker 3: nine to twelve, then poss no team has thirty prospects.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, let's get serious. No team has thirty.
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  Speaker 1: PCs and their farm system did not rank.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, okay, the Devrize kid. And then what two
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  Speaker 2: I'm assuming was Ethan Salas in there in there and
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  Speaker 2: he didn't get traded because he's been hurt for a
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  Speaker 2: whole year, right, And then I don't know who the rest,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't care. No team has thirty prospects, and
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  Speaker 2: the Potters have been trading prospects away for years. You
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  Speaker 2: know what they keep doing. Ethan Salas is another one
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  Speaker 2: number one prospect, whoever was not traded the next highest
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  Speaker 2: is now they're number two prospect and they move right
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  Speaker 2: on up. You know what Preler will do next year,
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  Speaker 2: He has the opportunity, he'll trade all them suckers away
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  Speaker 2: to and get more big league players. So good for you, Proler.
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  Speaker 1: And look at his position player group. Most of them
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  Speaker 1: are locked into contracts for a very long time. So
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  Speaker 1: if they don't work out, they got problems regardless. But
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  Speaker 1: they're not getting replaced, right first base Cronenworth locked in
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  Speaker 1: for a long time. Bogart second base, locked in for
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  Speaker 1: a long time. Same with Machado, same with Tatis, same
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  Speaker 1: with Jackson Merrill. They don't have that many spots open. Catcher, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: they picked up a catcher, and for mean, who could
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  Speaker 1: be a part of the mix for a long time.
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  Speaker 1: Dan Sallas is there in the miners. Their bullpen's disgusting.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, come on, the bullpens filth on paper. That's
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  Speaker 1: one of the nastiest bullpens I've ever seen.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody needs to everybody needs to understand exactly what
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  Speaker 3: AJ said. No organization has thirty prospects. We used to
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  Speaker 3: joke when we were in the minor leagues, the thirty
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  Speaker 3: prospects would come out Baseball Americay, everybone read it, be.
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  Speaker 2: Like I was thirty one. Had they just expanded it.
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  Speaker 2: I was thirty one.
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  Speaker 3: You know someone who's twenty nine's like, yeah, I made it,
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  Speaker 3: And we were like, nah, better be thirty one. I
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  Speaker 3: mean yeah, No, no team has twenty nine prospects. I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 3: probably not even nine prospects. And the Padres got rid
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  Speaker 3: of nine of them. So other teams were like, oh man,
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  Speaker 3: we got their ninth best prospect, all the guys they traded.
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  Speaker 2: No, I don't know. I give them credit though they're
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  Speaker 2: trying tries. Man, I give you credit. Proler, you try hard,
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  Speaker 2: and I hope you hope it works out for you
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  Speaker 2: because I think it's awesome. I think it's great. Then listen,
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  Speaker 2: the teams have tried and didn't hoard their prospects, the Phillies,
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  Speaker 2: the same ones, the Mets, right, those teams cordin the
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  Speaker 2: prospects the Mariners through a bunch of prospects of the
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  Speaker 2: Diamondbacks for Suarez and Naylor gave.
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  Speaker 1: Up a bunch of prospects too, Yankees, Yankees, good for you.
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  Speaker 1: But the thing is, almost all the teams you just
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  Speaker 1: mentioned maintained the guys that they think have a shot
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  Speaker 1: to really click good. The only one that didn't was
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  Speaker 1: Preller with Devires. In my mind, I yes, there's other
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  Speaker 1: guys that have some potential, but the only one in
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  Speaker 1: my mind that looks like he's got the superstar potential
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  Speaker 1: that might really hurt is Leo Devrez. A lot of
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  Speaker 1: nice players that could make it, could not.
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  Speaker 2: You think the thirty seventh prospect of the Padres there,
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  Speaker 2: like darn it, we lost him. No, not one person knows,
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  Speaker 2: even the organization, even the prospect people that are out
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  Speaker 2: there on Twitter and in the internet. Dude, the thirty
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  Speaker 2: seventh prospect, great, cool, he's sitting there. You can get
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  Speaker 2: another one tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: Correct. And also Prowler's sitting there going to say a scout,
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  Speaker 1: who's talking up that player, who's you know, the third
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  Speaker 1: best third basement in their system. And he's going, oh,
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  Speaker 1: where where's he going to play? Where is he gonna
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  Speaker 1: play in a couple of years. You're gonna play third
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  Speaker 1: for Manny Man is still gonna be there for there.
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  Speaker 2: For like nine more years.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, I texted you.
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  Speaker 3: I texted I texted a GM yesterday after it like
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  Speaker 3: who time for a nap? And he just said Preller
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  Speaker 3: is impressive. So if your own one of the thirty
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  Speaker 3: dudes that has the same job as you says you
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  Speaker 3: are impressive, hats off to a J.
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  Speaker 2: Preller. Why he's a really he's a really aj agreed, agreed,
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  Speaker 2: all the as are geez, But I just I just
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  Speaker 2: don't understand why, like you know, Preller does these things right.
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: But then you have the other side of it that
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: the fans are annoyed, the Cubs, the Red Sox right
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: where where were they were going to the brewers in there?
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  Speaker 2: I mean they're gonna say Vaughn and Priester and Jansen,
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  Speaker 2: But I mean I'm talking like impact guys. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: although Andrew Vaughn's been unbelievable since he got there, so
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  Speaker 2: you know, we'll see. But you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 2: like where was those guys had prospects.
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  Speaker 1: Too, the one that drove me nuts and again, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna get into it later because we're gonna talk about
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  Speaker 1: the quotes. To just hear some of the responses from
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  Speaker 1: Craig Breslow and the Red Sox, it's very frustrating for
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  Speaker 1: fans to listen to that like that. You're trying hard.
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  Speaker 1: It's cringe. It's cringe. We'll get to it, though. I
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  Speaker 1: want to save it. The other guy who made a
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: lot of money during this trade deadline, who we talked
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: about a lot yesterday, but we'll give him some love
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: right here, Luis Robert probably gets one year ten million
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  Speaker 1: dollars in free agency. I was trying to do some
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  Speaker 1: math on like where he'd stack, and I saw some
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  Speaker 1: comps right, Like Bader often gets a deal like that.
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  Speaker 1: He's a much higher floor. Obviously they're different players. But
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  Speaker 1: unless Robert goes nuts the last month and a half
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  Speaker 1: of the season, it's been a long time since he's
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  Speaker 1: been a star back twenty twenty three, you know.
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  Speaker 2: What's incoming now. It would be certain people in the
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: chat saying, well, in July he's hit three point thirty
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  Speaker 2: with twelfth.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, three weeks time, that's great. I'm not saying he's
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  Speaker 1: a bad player. My thing is right now, if he's
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  Speaker 1: on the free agent market, he gets a one year,
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  Speaker 1: ten million dollar contract, and the White Sox just publicly
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  Speaker 1: said he's getting a twenty million dollar option picked up
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  Speaker 1: as long as he's healthy. Right, they're gonna come to
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  Speaker 1: the off season and say, can you look and twenty
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  Speaker 1: million dollars just because we're stubborn and we didn't get
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  Speaker 1: the prospect that we wanted.
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  Speaker 2: No, especially for a team that needs new blood and
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  Speaker 2: needs to bring in a lot of people. Right, because
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  Speaker 2: if you listen to Chris gets his press conference yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: what do you say, We're picking up Robert's option because
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  Speaker 2: we love him and we're gonna have money to spend.
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  Speaker 2: So you're gonna pick up a twenty million dollar option
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  Speaker 2: just because you couldn't get the fourth best prospect of
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  Speaker 2: some team and that's gonna cost you twenty million. You
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  Speaker 2: could maybe get two decent players for twenty million.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a really tough sell. You don't think they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna do it.
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  Speaker 2: Kratz.
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  Speaker 1: Think they're saying it now and then in the off
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  Speaker 1: season they're gonna say, oh, something changed, and then they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna get nothing for him. Nothing after all this time.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it's even a cold I don't think
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  Speaker 3: it's even a cold take. But maybe it is because
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  Speaker 3: of what gets said. I just have a hard time seeing.
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  Speaker 3: Look who's gotten twenty million dollars a year, even for
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  Speaker 3: one year in free agency the last few years.
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  Speaker 2: It's a small one. It's a small lest By the way, Nad,
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  Speaker 2: this guy, Nad, whoever you are, said bad take on Robert.
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  Speaker 2: You guys said that mediocre prospects don't matter, that's all
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  Speaker 2: they could get. Well, if you're the White Sox, you
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  Speaker 2: need all the prospects you can get right now because
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  Speaker 2: least Robert ain't.
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  Speaker 1: Helping you win.
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  Speaker 2: He's been terrible for tears. If you can get anything
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  Speaker 2: for him, you get it.
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  Speaker 1: This is twenty million, Okay. We're talking about the Padres
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  Speaker 1: contending having all of their spots locked up.
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  Speaker 2: And using the prospects to get real big league players.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, the White Sox have nothing and they need to
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: get anything they can get. And also, nobody here said
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  Speaker 1: don't get anything for a player. Don't get anything for
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  Speaker 1: a player. That's what you want to do.
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  Speaker 2: They're doubling down.
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  Speaker 3: They're saying we didn't get anything, and we're going to
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  Speaker 3: pay him again to sit on the bench for half
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  Speaker 3: the season.
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: You know what else stands out to me, Some gms
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  Speaker 1: are addicted to certain teams. So let's do these tweets.
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  Speaker 3: Back to back.
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  Speaker 1: Ben Charrington said the Pirates quote had access to players
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  Speaker 1: that were ranked higher than who the Yankees offered for
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  Speaker 1: David Bednar. They simply preferred this package. I think what
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  Speaker 1: he was referring to is how they're a prospect ranked
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  Speaker 1: higher on say Baseball America, but he just likes these guys.
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  Speaker 1: They can't develop a catcher, so they're like, boom, hopefully
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  Speaker 1: rathfaeld Flores is our catcher for the future. These were
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  Speaker 1: not highly rated guys in the Yankee system, not even
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  Speaker 1: close to their top five. I mean obviously yeah, seven, eight,
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  Speaker 1: nine ish, whatever, but not top five guys. And then
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  Speaker 1: in Charrington's tenure, he's acquired ten of the Yankees' top
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  Speaker 1: thirty prospects according to Baseball America via trade. The ten
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  Speaker 1: prospects are the following, Roanzi, Contreras, Rafaeld Floyes, Miguel or
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: Connan Smith, Jigba, Yes he does, he's a nice guy,
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  Speaker 1: Kiner del Gato, Brian Sanchez, Hoy Park, Michael Ascato, Diego Castillo.
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  Speaker 1: How's this going. Don't you think at this point, Kratz,
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  Speaker 1: you should maybe stop trading with the Yankees. They're fleecing you, Ben,
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: They're fleecing you over and over and over again. They're
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: like the freaking pirate whisperers they call them. They get
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  Speaker 1: who they want, and then nothing happens on the other side.
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  Speaker 1: I hope that this catcher works out for the Pirates,
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: but still they should have never made this trade, Kratz,
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: if they got a better offer from a team like
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: the Tigers. I'm just gonna try something else. It's like
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: a relationship and you keep going after the same girl
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: and it just keeps not working. Maybe you should date
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: someone else. It's not working for you.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: Ben Jerston calls Cashman, and Cashman's ring tone for Shery
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: todays money money, money, money, money, as we go, Ben, Yes, no,
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: we did replenish all of our catchers.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: Do you want one? Absolutely?
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: We have a bunch of guys that throw ninety eight
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: miles an hour two in hi A. Would you like
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: two of those? Thank you, We'll take your controllable closer
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: see you later.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: I would love to hear the sales call, because it's
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: sales at that point, Right, you're on that call.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, are great at this Look at that hold list.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: There's not one guy in there that I've ever really
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: other than Smith and Jigma. That's because his brother was
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: on my fantasy team.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Right, that's a football man.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: What are we doing?
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: This is what all Pirates Turns are doing. I spent
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: probably too much time in the comments these days, but
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to understand the social media scene and what
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: everyone's saying. Right, so, Pirates fans last night, the replies
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: to the two tweets that we showed you, a lot
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: of them are like, I'm done. I can't root for
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: this anymore. I need new GM, new owner, the whole deal.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: This has been a really difficult six years.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: Nothing's not going anywhere, of course not. Yeah, that's what
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: he said.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: That's what he said.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: That's what he said, that's what he said.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: All Right, here we go. I always look forward to
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: the press conferences after the trade deadline when a team
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: fell short. Let's start with the Cubbies. Jed Hoyer, who
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: just got extended by the Cubs, and it's done a
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: nice job building a playoff contender this year, but didn't
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: get a starter. Quote from a starting pitching standpoint, it
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: was a really tight market. Very few rental starters. Of
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: the marquee controllable starters, none of them changed hands. We
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: didn't acquire them, but no one else did either. We
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: felt the asking price was something we couldn't do to
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: the future. As for rentals, Hoyer wouldn't talk on Meryl
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Kelly specifically. This is coming from our buddy Jesse Rodgers,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: but Hoyer said, quote, sometimes you line up with teams
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: and sometimes you don't. Meryl Kelly was a rental starter.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: He's very good. He would pitch Game one, two or
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: three of the playoffs for the Chicago Cubs. He's having
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: a great year. You can't miss you can't miss on that.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: The Rangers were like adding to a surplus. You can't
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: miss there. If you can't get the controllable starter crats,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: that's okay. But there was a rental available and you
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: have to leave with him. You have to figure out
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: a way. There were prospects that the Diamondbacks would take
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: in a deal for Merrill Kelly, and it didn't have
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: to be ballisteros. If that's someone they think is still
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: impacting the big league club, and they think he's this
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: next big thing at catcher, hitting for the future for them,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: that's fine, or whatever position he ends up doing. They
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: think he's a great bat. There's ten to twelve other guys.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: I guarantee you could have come up with the right
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: deal to get Merril Kelly, and if not, you got
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: to get one of those controllable starters. You're trying to
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: be a World Series contender this year. You don't have
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: enough starting pitching for October.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: I think they disagree with you. I think they disagree
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: with you in one or two ways they think they do,
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: and it couldn't have been more in their face. Kate
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: Horton's thrown for him tonight. Is Kate Horton throwing one
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: of your three starting one of your three games in
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: a playoff matchup? I don't think so. I don't think so,
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: But they think so. Or it's exactly what I said yesterday.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Maybe they don't think they're a World Series team. Maybe
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: they don't think this is the real time to push in.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: I know, I know, I agree with you. I agree
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: you trade that you make that trade for one year
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: of a guy that could possibly walk at the end
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: of the year. But you don't kind of try and
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: finish it all.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but what did they do learn from Jed Hoyer
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: when they got when they got, when they did that trade,
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: when they got basically Kyle Tucker for Cam Smith, I
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: get it.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Paradis is in there. But they did it.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: They did it so they could get rid of Bellinger's contract. Also,
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: that's a win for them. That's a win for them
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: if all they care about is the money. To me
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: from the outside, I look at the Kyle Tucker trade
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: and I say, this team's doing it. This team added
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: the aircraft carrier, this team offense took an absolute jump
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: start to where they are right now. And to me,
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: starting pitching is what they needed, and they did not
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: make the move. So, in my opinion, if the market
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: was too high, if they were just asking too much,
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: and he said leveraging it for the future, it didn't
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: want to do that to our future. There was plenty
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: of starting pitchers that have more than just one year
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: of control. That's your future. That's your future. So either
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: Kyle Tucker, this is your one year. You made the
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: Kyle Tucker move, then you have to get a rental
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: and they didn't fail. Thumbs down, whatever you want to
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: emoji you want to.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Use, no doubt. They got Kittridge, they got Soroca, and
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: I liked the Willy Castro pickup. But that is not enough.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: You're not screaming. World Series teams.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: Doesn't get hurt if you and HAP doesn't get hurt.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: Do they get Willy Castro?
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Maybe not? Why do you ask?
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: I would say no, just because.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: Then it's even less of a then to me, it's
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: just an answer to Ian happ getting hurt because they
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: don't think Biasteros can play that he can't play left
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: field every day for him.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: I think they think nout he was a catch, he's
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: a catcher the h Yeah, I mean maybe oh in
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: casey Caen. Here's the thing that they held him.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Remember last year when they went out and got Candelario
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: a lot two years ago when they went out.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: And got last year they got Pradies.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: When two years ago, like they were everyone's like, oh,
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: the Cubs are in, the Cubs are in. They went
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: out and got Candelario. People are like, why didn't they
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: sell Remember we were like talking about on here. Yeah,
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: cup should have sold the cups of sould instead. That
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: was twenty three to get people. Sorry my pack drop.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Well, last year they got Paradis when they were not
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: in a great spot. People thought they were gonna sell hard,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: and Partis ended up being helpful to turn into Kyle Tucker.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Great job, great job on both most of those fronts,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: but not here. You needed a starter, and I think
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: you needed a reliever too. Here was the message to fans,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: considering other teams were more aggressive, using trades for second
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: closers as an example, like San Diego Mets, Phillies, et cetera. Right,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Jesse Rodgers got the quote from Jed who said, quote,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: our biggest focus wasn't trading that prospect capital in the bullpen.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: If we were going to do that, it was in
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: the rotation. That's what I would say. You messed up.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Instead, they didn't trade any of that prospect capital. We
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: got no starters.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: I listened to other quotes from him too. He was
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: on ESPN yesterday and he said that they don't want
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: to do the drastic up down because if you think
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: about it, they'd rather Okay, so won series question?
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: I asked Bob, So if you just make the playoffs
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: like the Brewers do, and you never really get anywhere?
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Is that good enough the Twins? We made the playoffs?
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Want we want a wildcard series? We're great, all right,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: We're good. Is that good enough? Because I don't think
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: it is if you're the Cubs.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: To me, you know what, the screams fifty four. The
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: team that that was believing in fifty four percent actually
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: just got past that.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: This is the first time. The Mariners are like, Okay,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: lame and you're not. Every team is going to be
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: in it every year. It's just not possible. So that
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: was a fifty four trade deadline. Let's let's give ourselves
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: a shot. Let's get to the playoffs. Chances are not
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: high that we'll have enough pitching to win in the
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: National League. That looks ridiculous.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Hey, we made the playoffs.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll be able to kind of keep this
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: going for a while. Bruce Levine also commenting on what
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: the Cubs and White Sox might have done together since
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Jed Hoyer and Chris gets their buddies. They almost had
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: a trade for Adrian Hauser and the quote, I believe
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: it's from Getz. We worked really hard but didn't quite
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: get there. Oh, Hoyer said that gets confirmed they had
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: conversations up to thirty minutes before the deadline. Gets said
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: he thought they were close for the prospects that they
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: asked for.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Are they had dinner together?
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Are they sitting at dinner together because they live like
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: next door to each other.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. They sometimes I don't think they were.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, they might have been at dinner after, but
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: they're in their their situation. I don't think you sit
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: at dinner and do the trade deadline. I don't think, Adrian.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Some people say in the chat that they did they
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: had dinner during the deadline or.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: During the trade deadline.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: During the deadline.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Scott doesn't get it. We need confirmed, we need TMZ pictures.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I don't get it. What's the joke.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Well, they're all saying they were sleeping. Certain people are sleeping.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: After lunch out to lunch.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: They forgot.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, some people say, I agree with you, they want
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: a good joke, good job.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: I'm sure they've been I'm sure they've had plenty of discussion.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: You think what you think when they're in the car together, like, hey,
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: what about this? Will you take Louise Robert for twenty million?
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: And you give me own Casey.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: I think that it goes even past that where he says,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: what should I do with Luis Robert and he says,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: you should keep them unless you had a top prospect,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: and he goes, but no one's offering me that, and
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, because everyone's soft and no one trades
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: big prospects anymore, So you should just keep them and
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: spend more money and then we'll just continue to be
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: the better team in Chicago. Gotcha Sucker was going down,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: That's right. Howser, by the way, went to the race.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Interesting trade deadline for them. They got rid of to
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: tell They picked up Howser, got rid of TODs, Bradley
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: picked Gryffin Jackson, who they have for two and a
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: half seasons. I think Gryffin Jackson is really good. That's
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: gonna be a good one to Stus. Sternberg owns the
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: race for a few more months, and I don't think
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: he wanted to sell the team and have them all
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: fall apart. They already have a deal, it sounds like,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: so it's not going to affect anything. This is very
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: different from the Twins clearing their books. So I'm like, okay,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: I mean sure, you'd like to see them buy if
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: they were buying, but they don't. They don't know if
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: they're really in a good position. Their their playoff percentage
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: chance is pretty low, right, but they're like, hey, let's
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: give it a shot.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: They try to thread the needle. Yeah, they always do this.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: I've seen better, I've seen worse. Tea breaking news, the
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Yankees say they do not need Marcus Stroman anymore, so
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: he has been released. This according to Bob Nightgel, who
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: was just on our show Minutes to Go, he's still hustling,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: so he said, Stroman should be joining a starting rotation
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: near you. Hey, maybe some of those teams that didn't
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: do anything can drop a phone.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: The Cubs are going to take him back.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Maybe Cubs Red Sox phone calls it.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: He would love to go to the Red Sox. He
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: would love to play the villain to the Yankees or
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: the superhero for the Red Sox if he has his choice,
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: he would love that. Yeah, Blue Jays, back to the
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: Blue Jays.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Well, now they already have six starters. He here's the problem.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: He has a six plus e RA. If you go
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: on his stat cast page, everything besides ground balls is
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: incredibly blue. It could be the end, or it could
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: be a tryout on a team that just needs to
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: pick up some innings. I don't know.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Do you think you pick a team that needs He's
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: just gonna have to pick find a team we can
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: pitch and start, right, whatever team that is, it needs
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: him just to eat innings, whether you know, to cover
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: and then hope he does really well and then he
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: can find another job next year.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Does he want to go to a team that is
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: not in the race?
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Well, he has to make a decision. Do I want
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: to go to a team that's good and probably not
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: get to pitch a ton, or do I want to
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: go to a team that's out of the race and
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: probably get a chance to pitch every day. Right, that's
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: a tough decision we all have to make.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: What would you do if you or him?
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Has he won before?
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's won a World Series?
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Then your answer is I, he's made a lot of money,
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: so I'd probably have to go with the go where
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: I have a chance to win. But that's tough because
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: he was on the Yankees to have a chance to
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: win and they let him go. So other teams are
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: gonna say, why did the Yankees let him go.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he wasn't happy in the bullpen.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Let's not forget. There's also the whole thing. He was
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: not happy in the bullpen. Remember they put him in
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: the bullpen. He wasn't happy. Then he said, I don't
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: want to be in the bullpen. I'm a starter, So
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna mention how he made it pretty clear,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: telling us what twelve times since spring training in that interview,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: I'm a starter. It's made nine starters this year. He
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: had some injuries, that's it. He's made the nine appearances.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: He also didn't He also didn't pitch once in the
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: playoffs last year. I'm not saying that was all him.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: I'm saying maybe partially him, Like if you're gonna throw me, like,
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: you got to make sure I got time to warm up.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: So if a contending team says, yeah, I want this guy,
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: they have to understand he wasn't used in the playoffs
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: last year. I'm not saying he wasn't good enough. I'm
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: saying he wasn't used for whatever reason. If you have
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: him a starter right now, he's gonna fill innings for
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: you and you make the playoffs how's he gonna feel
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: going to the pen? Well, he made that clear in
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: spring training and postseason. It wasn't it wasn't looking like
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: where he wanted to be. Let's put it that way.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: William in the chat said he doesn't have pen and stuff,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: bullpen stuff. He said, maybe long reliever.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what he would be. We know he's he's
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: not going to the eighth inning and they're not firing
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: him out there in the eighth inning.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think he meant, you know, high leverage stuff.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, Okay, this is interesting. I wonder do
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: you think someone picks him up because if he really
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: wants to be a starter and it's only contender, you
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: think so Astro don't so he doesn't get picked up.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: No, he does. He does with it.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: You said a contender. Does he get picked up by contender? No,
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: I don't think he gets picked up by a contender.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: I think somebody that need innings.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: I got one for you. I think he goes home.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: To happen.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: I think he goes home, Oh, check cash is the
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: same this year, and then you take off too. Yeah.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: I think he just says, hey, this is not going
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: to be the right setup for me unless a contender
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: wants me and promises me that I'm going to be
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: a starter. The rest of the way, check cash is
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: the same, go home, and then you can sign a
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: contract with the team to show up at spring training
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: and buy for a rotation spot. Just knowing how he operates.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's a crazy thought.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Okay, right, Yeah, he's got a boat. It'll be down
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: in Tampa. I don't hate that. And he makes his
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: contract tax free down in Florida.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: He does the bullpen session on the dock. You ever
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: seen those videos? Oh yeah, so I got his own
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: shoe line.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: He does too right, And hey, sugar.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: If he wants to still pitching the bags and make
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: some money. And but here's the thing.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Unless he goes to a team this year and pitches
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: and does well, he's going to be a NRI next
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: year's gonna be a non roster invite more than crats.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, I would think with a chance to make
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: a couple million. I don't know that that's the way
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: this kind of goes. You get released the next year,
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: you go to a camp as a NRI guy, or
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: you know, most most of the time, not all the time.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, I was trying to think of
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of examples of guys who who
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: had subpar years and then still came out and got
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: got that contract. Just yeah, just coming off an injury
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: and then he didn't get many starts after the injury.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: It's tough. Some people be like, oh, screw that, Like
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: I didn't get it. I didn't get a fair shake
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: after the injury.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: That's why you don't rush back from injuries for everybody
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: who's watching. Don't rush back from injuries because you don't
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: do good right out the game, especially on a Tina
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: wants to win, You'll find a spot for someone else.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: I think public perception because he's vocal and outspoken could
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: lead to some team saying no. Also because he hasn't
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: pitched well. I mean, he's a negative war in his
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: nine starts six plus e RA. Some teams are just
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: going to be like, not.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but the team like the Braves Orioles.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Do you think the Braves would take them? I think
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: the Orioles might. I think the Oriols might. I don't know.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: I don't think the Braves. I don't know.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: If there's stone teams out there that we've talked about
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: needing starters. Those are a couple of teams that kind of.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Need starters Orioles.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: For sure, Braves lost their whole rotation.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just for some reason, I don't think and
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Thoppolis had him right, he had him in Torontoah, Yeah,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't I don't think that gets reunited.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: But I could be wrong. Maybe they got along really well.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: And there's a phone call there. And also, let's not
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: act like this business doesn't have a little bit of
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: networking to it, right, There's some guys you like, there's
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: some guys you don't like, like Alex might really like
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Marcus from their times there, and it might be a
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: phone call like, hey, dude, give me a shot. Let
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: me let me get a start or two there and
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: see if I can get this rolling again.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Nothing else. That's what I'm saying. That's that's what I'm saying.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: The Braves are a real option.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Cookie Carrasco pitch the other day.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: That's my point. Yeah, Okay, Cooking Carrasco pitched last night.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: It actually did okay until the eighth inning came and
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: then nobody pitched very well.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Neither and that was the relievers. I mean no, I know, yeah,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: that was a difference.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: He scored eight runs in the eighth last night.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: That was something.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: So anyway, the news is Marcus Stroman cut by the Yanks.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: They are going to go forward with Warren Schlitter, Louis
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Heel's coming back this weekend, and then of course you
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: got Freed and Rodin at the top. Makes sense. All
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: those arms I think great better now than current version
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: of Stroman. So there you go. That's your breaking news. Hey,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: I want to bring that game up. Key Brian Hayes
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: first game with the Reds pulls a homer, said two homers.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: The whole year is like a two ninety slugging percentage.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: Pirates fans already were feeling miserable after their trade deadline,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: and then there's barely any baseball on and Key Brian
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: Hayes bangs a homer, part of an eight run comeback
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: for the Reds, who ultimately lost, but still Kratz texted
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: us in our group chat like, oh, hey, there's the power.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: His career seven. I wrote it down, seven forty two
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: ops versus the Reds. I don't know if that means
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: the trade is good or not, but maybe.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: He likes playing in Cincinnati, just saying.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: That's crazy. First game, I mean, you.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Had, like you know, that was it had to be
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: the lock. That had to be the lock. That was
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: his third homer of the year. He's got his Pirates
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: shoe on, his Pirates belt on, all his Pirates stuff on,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: and wammo.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: There was either the Pirates fans that are like, I
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: hate life or the other side, because again i was
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: just couldn't sleep last night and I'm going through comments.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: They're the Pirates fans are like, are you gonna point
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: out the two run error that he had? And I'm like,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: shut up, dude, He's really good at third. That is
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: not the concern for Cincinnati. The concern is will this
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: guy hit enough to be worth seven million a year
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: for the next X amount of years and they're banking
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: on it.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: We'll see, it's gonna be interesting. This is this is
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: a fascinating trade to me because we talked about it
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: when it happened. Why did Cincinnati take on that money
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: unless they think they can unlock something and maybe they
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: have a different hitting coach, maybe they talked to him
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: a little bit differently and he's been in Pittsburgh his
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: whole career. You know, sometimes he grow stale, like the
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: same message over and over again. He signed a big
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: contract there, didn't get any better. So maybe this is
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: the opportunity to move on and find something that he
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: couldn't find in Pittsburgh.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: I hope, So, I hope it works out for him.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: He's probably tired of being in last place over here too.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: It's tough. That's gotta be tough every year, no chance. Hey. Also,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: the Mariners are one to zero and the Gino Suarez
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: era had a nice knock and cal Riley hit his
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: forty second homers. Yeah, it's gonna be fun to watch
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: the Mariners down the stretch here. Mariners fans are pumped
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: because they were pissed when they didn't push chips in
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: the past couple of years for the bats and then
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: they just got two and the one they got last
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: year Randy or Rose. Arena is hitting pretty well too,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: So let's talk about the AL West leaders coming up next.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: That's the Astros five well, now what four and a
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: half games up? Yeah? In the Weeds powered by Arena
• 37:42
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• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Slash foul more coming up. That's great. The trade deadline,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Jim Boden did his list. Don't show yet, but he
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: did his list. He gave out five days, fifteen bees,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: seven season three d's. AJ was very excited for my list.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: I gave out six a's, fourteen b's, eight c's, and
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: two d's. A's first, I'll give you Bodens a's. He
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: gave the Mariners an A, the Padres in A, the
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Mets in A minus, the Phillies in A minus, and
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: the Giants in a A minus.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Why are the Giants I've had them as a loser.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: He really liked their returns in their deals, and he
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: gave them credit for their trade season, which included Raphael Devers,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: even though the teams.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: They've been theteam in baseball since they got.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Him right, but he likes to deal long term. The
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: team stinks. I gave the Giants a B plus because
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: I actually thought, I mean, they got some major league
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: guys for Rogers. They pivoted in the right way. They're
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: not going to make the playoffs this year. Sell off
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: some pieces. That's what they did. Dove All still had
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: another year, but I think you sell high. He's having
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: a great year, So I think you got to thread
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: the needle a little bit. I think Buster Posey entered
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a mess and he's trying to
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: buy his way out of it. But you also still
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: need a farm system. They did not do a great
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: job of that, so B plus for me on the Giants,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I know, he gave him an A minus. And besides that,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Kratz I had the Yankees with an A minus to
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: go along with the Mets and Phillies two. I mean,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: they fixed third, They got their two platoon bench guys.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: They got three bullpen arms, two of which could close
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: for many teams. So are you not entertained A minus?
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, if they got a starter, you give him
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: the A or the A plus. But that's a pretty
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: nice deadline. He gave him a B plus. So oh
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: and then last one for me where I differed to
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: him is he had the Twins actually in the B plus.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: I gave him an A. I mean, but we talked
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: about this yesterday. They cleared their roster to get sold,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: and if you're a Twins fan, whatever gets your team
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: sold fastest wins Joe poll adds scorched earth on the
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: way out or the poll add family. In general, they're
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: hopefully about to sell the team, and the more that
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: they can clear, the easier it makes it to do.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: By the way, they're sitting out season ticket renewals this
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: year for five percent increase, just to increase increase.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're on their way out, and so they're
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: just messing with people at this point. I'm just saying,
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: I know, I know, but if you're a Twins fan,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: I know it hurts that you traded forty percent of
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: your big league roster, but the number one thing you
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: should root for is someone new to run that ship.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: And it doesn't always work out that way either. But
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: this is pretty bad and it's been a while, so
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: I give them an A. Where do you differ on
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: the a's.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, first of all, I'm not sure exactly how
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: did he give a lot of bees out there? Is
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: there are a lot of buses. Yeah, because I was
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: told I was told in school that b's and c's
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: are average, So I'm pretty pretty happy with those. To me,
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: I agree with you. I put the I would have
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: put the Tigers a little bit lower. I think they
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: just kind of did stuff. I think they just kind
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: of middled around. They got more, They got more guys
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: than other teams, But to me, I would put them
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: in more like the C plus range. Doesn't mean they're
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: C plus team. I think the Yankees. I think the
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: Yankees are an A. The only reason I'm going to
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: give them an A minus is because I don't know
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: how these guys are going to fit in New York.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: How does Bednar, who's only ever closed, do in the
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: non closer role?
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: Is that great?
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: Is that something that relieves some stress when you're coming
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: to the big city. What happens if Devin Williams falls again?
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: You know, Luke Weaver hasn't been great since he's come back.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: Is none of that guy? Is Camille Duvall that guy?
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: To me, I think they got a lot of great pieces.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: How it works in New York? I don't know.
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: They even upgraded their defense, which is something that I
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: didn't think they could do, and I think they did
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: it really well. Yankees fans viscerated me for saying that
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: Brian Cashman did a great job. They should talk to
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: me when we get a ring. I was like, well,
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: the only way to get a ring is to actually
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: make these moves. To me, I don't think the Braves.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: I don't think the Braves did bad. I think the
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: only two teams, if you're not given any f's, the
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: only two teams that should get an F are the
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: Rockies and the White Sox.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: All right, well, now let's show the board. I was
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: only doing a's and then Kratz gets an F for
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: a out following directions. But let's show the board. You
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: were going through your whole list.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: I was just he lost, he lost me.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Kratz gets an F. So there's one one F on
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: this board all the way to the right. Kratz didn't
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: follow directions. But anyway, how do Rockies.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Get a minus? I mean, I guess they traded McMahon
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: bird to the Yankees. I mean I guess they didn't
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: really have that much to trade though, so but they
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: should be more of like I didn't do much.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: They traded. They basically sit out most deadlines, right.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: They great just for the fact they got someone to
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: take Brian Hayes. Wait, but the problem, that's what he's saying.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Hold up, the Rockies got a B minus from Bowden.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: I am a B. They traded Jake Burden, Ryan McMahon.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: What else did you want him to do.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: That's all they had so so to be you have
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: to do what you can work with, right, So I
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: actually thought that was fine. He said, be minus. I
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: think it's to be Pirates.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: You asked about Pirates, got B minus on on on Jim's.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: List, there's C for me. They held on to three
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: rentals Andrew he Andy, Isaiah Kiner, Fileffa, Tommy fam The
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: C is all on the Brian Hayes money. Dumb. They
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: they moved and they moved Bednar. I don't. I don't
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: like the return. Ben Harrington does.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: Actually the benchuring says we could have got more, but
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: we wanted these players. Don't you just get the best players.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Available if you're not, if you're the Pirates.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: Evaluations system, they have a different evaluation system.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: It's better. It's better. Their evaluation system is working better
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: than most everyone else's. Just look at the results.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: That is not something anybody said. The only other part,
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: because I was the only person that actually turned in
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: my homework before the show, is I did go off
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: the rails and start talking about my f's But.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: The mets I don't see.
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: I don't care if you give them an A minus
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: or not, but you can't have the Phillies in the
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: same realm. I think the Mets did more than what
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: the Phillies did. I think their additions and I agree
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: with what Bob said and what Bob said other GM said.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: I feel like their additions in the bullpen are going
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: to make that team a problem. And it takes so
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: much pressure off of David Peterson, who has been pitching
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: really well. Takes pressure off of Sean and Iya, who's
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: coming back from injury and he's you know, hasn't pitched,
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: hasn't thrown that much this year. Frankie Montas who I
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: think they're playing with house money with what they've gotten
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: from him already. Code I sanga like it takes pressure
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: off of these guys, don't They don't need to go along.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: And you're not just going to pieces in the bullpen.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: You're going to absolute studs, from Reed Garrett to to
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: Rogers to Hellsley to Edwin Diaz. I'm forgetting something oh
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: Raley and Soto. I think the Mets, the moves they
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: made are a solid a or at least above the Phillies.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: They can't be on the same realm as the Phillies.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Okay, well I thought, what the Phillies. It was nice
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: though they got another they got an outfielder, and they
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: got a closer for me, because where else are you
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: filling in places for the Phillies.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: So so for me they're a minus and not an
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: A or an A plus because they could have gotten
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: one more reliever. For me, there's a couple of guys
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: that you could replace because now you have Super bowlpens
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: being built and their bullpen is good compared to those,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: but not great. Right, there are a number of bullpens
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: still better than theirs. For me. On the Mets a minus.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: They did everything they wanted to do. They didn't go overboard,
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: like for me, that's you get the one starter on
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: top of that, right, you get one more starter that
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: gets them the A or the A plus. You fill
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: your needs and then some you fill all of your needs.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: You're in the A range. But that's to me where
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: it differs. Like I still had to have a separation
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: between the Padres and the Mets. Padres are an A,
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: Mets are an A minus. Okay, right, ye, Padres filled
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: all their needs and then some fair fair okay, fair, yeah,
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: Tigers for me, I'm actually that's that's the grade that
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: I wrote down that I probably regret. I put them
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: at B minus, and I think that they should be
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: in the C range. Boden put them at B. For me,
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: it's a ton of quantity, but no high leverage reliever,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: no guaranteed high leverage reliever, and no right handed bat.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: So I actually regret my B minus. I'd like to
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: give them a C R C Plusden gave me the
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: thank you. Boden gave the Orioles a B plus. He
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: liked their returns. You know what was interesting when I
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: started digging through their returns, Crats mostly a ball guys.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: Seventeen year old shortstop Wilfree de la Cruz, nineteen year
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: old righty Boston Bateman, twenty year old shortstop Cob High
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: tower Man. They must feel like they're I'm not surprised.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: It's just he must have assurance that front office must
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: have assurance that they're good, they're fine, because some people
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: are like, oh, well, Lias is gone after this season.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. No, he's staying.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I say he really likes his team going forward.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: He's disappointed with his What do you say he's disappointed
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: with the trade deadline, but right here after incredibly busy
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: deadline for the Orioles, Elias is unhappy with how the
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: season is going to be happy with a group of
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: players he's acquired or sorry, twenty twenty five is gone
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: this way.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: But see you next year's next year.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they said, lots of prospects again, guys, get excited
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: for five years from No, my five year plan has readjusted.
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: Sorry, the big league guys or whatever you want to
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: call them, you know, I'm not even I don't really
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: care what they do because I just allotted myself five
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: more years only a ball guys.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: Yep. Gotta wait until those guys prove themselves until you
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: evaluate me. Boden had a C plus for the Cardinals.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: I give him a B. They traded their rental guys,
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: philm Aton, Ryan Helsley, Steven Mattz. They kept their longer
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: term guys, which I think they should.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: They could have maybe moved a catcher.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, but that's why B B for me makes sense.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: I thought C plus from him was too harsh. Okay, Dodgers,
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: he gave him a B plus. I gave him a B.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's not a ton that that they need
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: to replace. They need to get healthier. Brock Stewart could
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: be a high leverage guy for that, not playing for him,
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: So they put in Alex Call, who I didn't realize me.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: I knew he was having a good year plus defense
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: and speed one nineteen ops plus he could be one
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: of those guys that Andrew Friedman falls in love with. Yeah,
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: so it's a B for me. Kratz.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: Sure, I guess nothing. Nothing.
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: The Dodgers can be below a bee. I mean, I
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: don't think they needed a lot. Brock Stewart's gonna be awesome.
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: He's gonna throw a lot more change ups now. I
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: think he's a change up, change up heater guy, and
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: Alex Call is gonna fill in for him. They didn't
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: really need to get other guys like the I joked
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: about NLCS MVP, but Alex Call plays was playing and
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: last year I watched a NAT's game in Philly and
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: he plays a nice right field. I don't know where
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: he's gonna play, probably more left, you know, maybe that
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  Speaker 3: platoon with Confordo that they've been trying to figure out.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: But it's a nice piece B. Sure you can.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: Last last one for me, I have the Angels and
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: Braves as d's I mean, Brave. You gotta trade Rycel Glaciers.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: Somebody wanted him. If you couldn't trade a Zooner, you
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: got to trade Riysel, Like, what are you keeping him for?
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: It's free agent. After this year, we've gone over the
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: White Sox a lot. You can look at other videos
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: with Luis Robert, they get a D. He gave the
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: Angels a D. I give him a C minus. I
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: give him credit for not selling and trying. At least
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: they didn't give anything up. They got Luis Garcia and Chaffin.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: Do they have the pitching the last I don't think so.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: But what they could have sold Ken Lee, Taylor, Ward,
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: Tyler Anderson, I don't know how much they would have gotten,
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: So I'm okay with it C minus obviously they didn't add.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: But D to me is a little too hard. They're there, Yeah,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: I'm just kind of there. That's what Caesar for. I mean,
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: the Red Sox and the Cubs are in the C
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: for me because they're there too, right. They still did things.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: They just didn't do enough, so it doesn't give you
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  Speaker 1: the Craig Breslow quote. That's the one we didn't get to,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: and that's what he said, and that one he can't
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: let that one go. The Red Sox. There's two. The
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: Red Sox got uncomfortably aggressive in pursuit of real impact players,
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: but in the end they settled for lower profile moves.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: That one from Tim Healy, but from the Craig Breslow
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: press conference, uncomfortably aggressive. It was so uncomfortable that they
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: actually didn't get the guys. And Jen McCaffrey from The
• 52:14
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• 52:16
  Speaker 1: Joe Ryan, but were unwilling to offer any of their
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  Speaker 1: big league outfielders okay, or an enticing enough package of
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  Speaker 1: their top tier prospects. According to sources, it's a great
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  Speaker 1: article that she put together. Unless you're a Red Sox fan,
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• 52:32
  Speaker 1: It is so frustrating to hear all of the quotes.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: I understand the frustration. Really young, exciting club blah blah blah. Right,
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: and Cora even called them out towards the end of
• 52:44
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• 52:47
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• 52:49
  Speaker 1: big pickups. I mean paraphrasing, but he said it. He's like,
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: we make big pickups. You know they didn't.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: No, they did not.
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• 53:19
  Speaker 3: So basically the problem is they were hoping teams would
• 53:22
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• 53:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and what what was it?
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