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- 0:00Yes, yes, yes, it's time once again. We'll tell you what
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- 0:39show, this is episode four eight zero. By the way, four eighty
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- 4:12All right. So on our last episode back on Thursday, we started over
- 4:16Unders for the season and that went extremely well. That went extremely well.
- 4:25People the numbers based on that episode, we're people were into that big tad.
- 4:31They liked the over under aspect of it, so that that's that's really
- 4:34good. I'm happy to see that, of course. And and so as
- 4:43we said on Thursday, since that was the first go round with over Unders,
- 4:49we've got part two kind of sort we didn't call the episode part two,
- 4:53but we're gonna do part two. So what do you got? How
- 4:56many were doing? How many you doing? How many we doing? How
- 4:57when you're doing let's go, what's the first one? I got my three
- 5:00second jingle? Hang? I'd like doing a three second jingle? All right,
- 5:03what's first? Now? You like the jingle? Hold on? Just
- 5:05hold on? First of all, I've got two of them, one offense,
- 5:10one defense, we're not doing that yet. Don't bury the lead.
- 5:12Don't bury the lead. Don't skip ahead once again, you have no idea
- 5:16what the agenda is or how we're supposed to maneuver through this show. Let
- 5:18me help you. Kerchival's not here. I know you're already thrown off.
- 5:23The scrimmage was I would like to discuss the scrimmage a little bit. I'm
- 5:28sure the listeners would like to hear the scrimmage a little bit. You were
- 5:30there, I attended. Okay, good, let's talk scrimmage. They did.
- 5:36They did. Okay, this is gonna be a deposition, So now
- 5:39I gotta ask questions. You're not just gonna volunteer information, because I got
- 5:41questions. One of the best memories that I have from Saturday's scrimmage is the
- 5:48fact that there were a good number and people probably have seen this on social
- 5:53media by now, there were a good number of members of the nineteen eighty
- 5:59three Ish mountaineer team, and they were all sitting together in a group.
- 6:05Okay, and so they're together and they're having a good time, and they're
- 6:11hanging out and just you can look down there. You can see several familiar
- 6:14faces down there, and then and then the man walks in. The man
- 6:20comes into the into the house, Coach Neilan. So he comes in and
- 6:27he's got he's got this guy with him, you know, Bill ll Bill,
- 6:30Bill handles and so Bill brings them. They go up into the steps
- 6:34and and he he goes up into the stands where those guys are sitting,
- 6:40and they basically encircle him, and it's just a hug fest. It was
- 6:46just a hug fest. They were they were right, Coach Neelan. He
- 6:49you could tell, you mean, from a distance, I could tell that
- 6:54he was happy and they were getting they were hugging him. I mean,
- 6:57there was some There was a bunch of good guys there. I mean West
- 7:00the Hammer Turner, who we talked about not all that long ago. I
- 7:04don't know was it here that we talked about. So West Turner, who's
- 7:10a uniontown guy, right knocked out Troy Stratford on a kickoff return. That's
- 7:15right. It wasn't with you. It was the previous Saturday night when I
- 7:17was sitting there with Tim ag and Undra and Pecan. We were talking about
- 7:21the time West Turner knocked out Troy Stratford on a kickoff return out boom.
- 7:28And he was just a baby back then, like a freshman. And then
- 7:30he became a boxer. Became a boxer and beat West Virginia defense West Virginia
- 7:38heavyweight champ Big Sam scatt over in Westover, and I talked to him about
- 7:42that fight. Anyway, west was there? He lives in South Carolina now.
- 7:46David Grant, great nose guard for the Mountaineers who played a bunch of
- 7:49years in the NFL. Was there. Running back John Hollifield was there?
- 7:55Another running back of note, Pat Randolph. Pat Randolph beats and State in
- 8:01eighty four, and I talked and I said, dude, can you believe
- 8:05he goes Okay, it's crazy forty years, I says, I can't believe.
- 8:09It's just crazy. So hollow Field and ran Larry Holly speaking of Penn
- 8:13State. Larry had an interception in the eighty four game against Penn State.
- 8:18Two interceptions in that game. Larry had one near sideline Mountaineer side of the
- 8:22field, and rich Rod Rich Rod had one as well in that game.
- 8:26Larry's might have been a little bit more. I mean it was right at
- 8:30a key moment of the game. So Larry was there, and jeez,
- 8:35I don't want to miss any of those other guys, but there was a
- 8:39handful of guys there and so that was great. So they had a wonderful
- 8:41time. That was one of my great memories just to see that because those
- 8:46guys, you know, they were the building blocks and talking with Pat.
- 8:50When Pat Randolph played here, the hospital side of the stadium was a hill
- 8:58and people would bring blankets and the weight room side of the stadium was rackety
- 9:03rickety temporary bleachers and they'd bring him in before the season. I guess we're
- 9:09gonna sit here. I mean, you know, I'm sure they were safe,
- 9:13right, They never went down. That was good. So anyway,
- 9:16that was my highlight, Thank you very much. Saturday scrimmage. Yeah,
- 9:18it was good. Now I've got questions because I was there Friday. I
- 9:20went out to practice Friday. We had an open session, in fact,
- 9:24that was extended. We stayed most of the most of the practice. Saw
- 9:26some good things. So I'm gonna i'll sprinkle in what I saw Friday,
- 9:30see if it's backed up with what you saw Saturday. First, Trail and
- 9:33Ray guy that's gaining a lot of traction. He's rising in the Brown mentioned
- 9:37index he was good again on Friday when I was there, saw him make
- 9:41a couple of catches. Saturday, did you see trail and Ray doing some
- 9:46good things? Yes, yes, he definitely, not only Saturday, but
- 9:50in the practices that I've watched, continues to identify himself as someone that makes
- 10:00plays and needs to be on the field. He's just one of those guys.
- 10:03You know, we oftentimes talk about how difficult it can be to transition.
- 10:09And this is not to say he's gonna go out there and catch seventy
- 10:11five balls, but I have often said this, you know, when you
- 10:18know, and you know when they're young. I always go, if they're
- 10:22good when they're young, they're going to be really good, and they've got
- 10:26a chance to be great, and they've got a chance to be extremely good.
- 10:30They just they just do that, like when you see someone some I
- 10:35mean, sometimes how do we say this nicely? If a player isn't really
- 10:43good right from the start, more times than not, they never are great.
- 10:52Okay, I guess this is a fair way to say it. They
- 10:54might become serviceable, productive and okay start yeah maybe okay, but that's a
- 11:03growth thing. If they start, like you kind of go, yeah,
- 11:07they might be able to grow to be good. You've got a couple of
- 11:11linemen right now that fit that bill, correct, Zach Frasier Wyatt Milem walked
- 11:13in right away, and we're really good as babies, as baby as when
- 11:16they shouldn't have been starting started. You went, yeah, they're really good,
- 11:20and they're turning out to be in Fraser's case, for sure, great.
- 11:24Milem's right on his tail. So we're all Americans. They're a freshman,
- 11:26all Americans. Okay. So my point is if you start good,
- 11:31then that means you're going to be good, but you have a chance to
- 11:37be very good. Okay, So with trailing ray based in this is simply
- 11:46on practice. Who knows you're going to a game situation. It's a whole
- 11:50different world, man, Right, It's gonna be a whole different world.
- 11:54But chances are he's going to be a productive player from the beginning of his
- 12:00career. Now, what's productive is that fifteen balls? Is that thirty balls?
- 12:05Who knows? But he just has the it look. Okay, yeah,
- 12:11I think that's fair. But let's roll that right into a discussion about
- 12:15another baby wide receiver, because I think they're both in the same thing as
- 12:18we've been saying with Rodney Gallagher shows flashes could be really good, might be
- 12:22great by the time, but just hold on because he's probably not going to
- 12:26catch fifty balls right to kill Schwartz went off the charts that year with what
- 12:30he had forty seven? Do I have that number right? It's a true
- 12:33freshman, but that was under Dana's offense that threw it a ton, So
- 12:37that's kind of the high water mark there, So bring it back in line.
- 12:39So raise the same way. But then transition to Gallagher because Rodney's a
- 12:43guy we talked a ton about then the first week at camp got a little
- 12:48bit quiet, and he's a guy you're hearing more and more over the last
- 12:50few practices that he's starting to make some place. We've heard interviews with the
- 12:54coaches. They're saying how tough he is, ability to go across the middle.
- 12:58So both of those guys together are going to play. Both have to
- 13:01make plays. Group them together. Did Gallagher make some plays on Saturday?
- 13:05Yes, So this goes back to Thursday's press conference where Blael Marshall, the
- 13:13new receivers coach, said that Rodney Gallagher had I don't know if surprised was
- 13:22the word I'm paraphrasing, or he either surprised or he exceeded their expectations.
- 13:26So I think when Rodney Gallagher, it was a huge, huge deal.
- 13:31When Rodney Gallagher committed WV we all know that, but at the same time
- 13:35they also realized that, you know, there's a growth process that takes place,
- 13:41both physically, mentally, the whole deal. To play at this level,
- 13:43you just don't know. You just don't know until they get on the
- 13:48field against the bigger, more mature, older players, you don't know and
- 13:54stop real quick. He was such an elite basketball player. He played hoops
- 13:58late, so we got a little later start here. One to remember,
- 14:01he wasn't a receiver last year in he he had played quarterback most of the
- 14:03last couple of seasons, so he also had that learning curve on top of
- 14:07just being here for the first time. So like if Rodney Gallagher were a
- 14:11stock, if he were in equity, he I think West Virginia bought him
- 14:18so to speak, you know, recruited him, you buy you know,
- 14:20Okay, just that that didn't sound you know what I mean? You can
- 14:24say that now, I mean, yeah, I guess you could. Yeah,
- 14:26I'd say he didn't committe violation there when they when they when they acquired
- 14:30his services, My guests would be that they thought that they were buying a
- 14:33growth stock, like hey, this is really really gonna be really good for
- 14:39us down the road exactly when we don't know, but we know it's gonna
- 14:43be good, you just don't know when. And now now they're kind of
- 14:46looking at Rodney and I think and they're going like, he just does some
- 14:50things. He just has an eight intangible abilities to get away from people.
- 14:58Again, he's not Usain Bolt and speed straight speed, but he is off
- 15:05the chart I think laterally he just has wiggle about him where he can get
- 15:11around and buy people. And it is you pointed out, and Neil pointed
- 15:16this out last week. He's also and we always say, like what happens
- 15:20when the ninth graders plays against the twelfth graders. Well, a lot of
- 15:22times the ninth graders go like, oh, who is a little bit too
- 15:24big for me? I don't he sticks his face in there. He'll block,
- 15:31he'll block, and he'll make difficult attempts to catch the ball in traffic
- 15:35where a lot of guys get alligator arms right kind of like kind of goes
- 15:41like this, they don't. All right, that's more of like a frog
- 15:45or something like that, you know what I mean. So anyway, so
- 15:50yeah, and you know who else blocked? Going back to trailing right,
- 15:54he'll block. He'll block, and that'll keep him on the field too because
- 15:56he'll block. Okay, you like both of them, all right? Encouraged.
- 16:03I'm staying in the receiver category here and this may foreshadow and over under
- 16:07coming up. Cole Taylor on Friday when we were there, made an unbelievable
- 16:12fifty fifty ball catch with a with a defensive back. It might have been
- 16:17a linebacker. Not quite sure who was on him. Somebody was draped all
- 16:19over him and right up with him. I mean Taylor was up fully extended
- 16:22and the defender was right with him. Taylor comes down with a big catch,
- 16:26gain of eight or ten first down, moved the six. Was a
- 16:29great catch. Cold Taylor see much of him on Saturday. Let me even
- 16:33remember seeing him Saturday and kind of like that. I mean, he may
- 16:37have beending it out. He may have been out. There's about eight guys
- 16:38or so that didn't participate. Okay, we'll come back to cold Taylor.
- 16:42I mean there was no Yeah, I don't remember. I don't even remember
- 16:45him being out. Quarterbacks, Yeah, quarterbacks. I think we're gonna be
- 16:56fine. I think we're gonna be fine. I felt more encouraged coming out
- 17:03of their Saturday than I had in any of the previous workouts, which is
- 17:07good. Which is supposed to happen, Right, you're supposed to go,
- 17:10You're supposed to be going like this as a team. You're supposed to be
- 17:11getting into sink and things like that. Yeah, I saw plays from both
- 17:17of those guys that were very productive. And you know, Garrett's playing like
- 17:25a guy that the light bulb has gone on and he's totally comfortable with what
- 17:30they're asking him to do. Okay, that's one last one. That's fine.
- 17:36That's good offense defensively overall defense, so hard, so hard. All
- 17:44right, let me ask you a specific question. We're guys running amuck in
- 17:48the defensive backfield wide open m. We had one blown well, no,
- 17:52it wasn't a blown covers. It was a man on man pass that hit
- 17:55big but the guy was there, he just got be So the offense is
- 17:57having to work for things when they get their yards. That's that's I'm being
- 18:03serious. That's an improvement from last year at times, right where so many
- 18:06times guys were just beaten deep across the middle. There were big swatches of
- 18:10green turfy saw guys running. So that's an improvement right there. If you're
- 18:12in a scrimmin situation, the offense isn't just running them buck. No,
- 18:15No, it wasn't. But that's the hardest thing to tell. That means
- 18:21guys defense really good. I know, I know, the same old thing
- 18:22we talked about. You don't know until you know, and you won't know
- 18:26probably for three or four weeks exactly who and what you are, right because
- 18:30you're gonna go from a top ten team and Penn State on the road against
- 18:33the team in a lower division in week number two, and then you know,
- 18:40you'll you won't have a feel you'll see two extremes. You will.
- 18:42But here's how, here's how I would try and look at that in a
- 18:45time when yeah, that's right, it's hard to get a sense of what
- 18:48you're looking at. The offense if it can, if it can improve from
- 18:52last year, but it doesn't to expect this offense to sudden they turn into
- 18:55the best in the Big twelve is unrealistic fair, but it can get better
- 18:59and get over when at average last year thirty one points a game somewhere like
- 19:02that, you can get up into that thirty five thirty six. You can
- 19:03make an improvement and it might not show up now. But that defense,
- 19:07if it's gonna if the defense was going to come backwards, I think you'd
- 19:11see bigger holes right now. Chances are it's going to be better than last
- 19:15year. Now it's just that sliding scale. How much better. The fact
- 19:18that the offense isn't just dominating them makes me feel like he got some a
- 19:21chance for some improvement defensively. A couple other thoughts, Okay, C J.
- 19:26Donaldson, he's just different because when you're used to seeing a particular body
- 19:32build at that running back spot, he's just so different. And when he
- 19:37gets when he gets his shoulders squared up and he starts to go, it
- 19:41takes work to get him down. It just takes work to get him down.
- 19:45So he's just a whole different compliment to that, which just to me.
- 19:48All that means to me is it makes it interesting, It makes it
- 19:52intriguing to see. Okay, you know a year ago, you open the
- 19:56season and no one knew who he was. Obviously, Pitt didn't know how
- 20:00West Virginia was going to try to use him. Now he's on tape obviously,
- 20:04so now you have to figure something out exactly what are we gonna do
- 20:07for him? That's one one and things. So when he runs, he
- 20:11you know, he's still a big He's a big, strong guy, which
- 20:14is fun to see. The other thing is, you know, Justin Johnson
- 20:18always runs hard, whether it's Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,
- 20:22Friday, every time that kid has touched the ball for West Virginia,
- 20:25he runs really really hard, which is really good to see. But the
- 20:29guy that made me keep going like a bunch of this is interesting, this
- 20:37is good is DJ Oliver m. Yeah, he got a little he got
- 20:47a little something to him. He got a little something to him. Now
- 20:49I just talk about how big Donaldson is, so DJ, you know,
- 20:53he goes into that shorter variety. He's like he's a compact C. J.
- 21:00Donaldson, if that makes sense. He's low to the ground. My
- 21:06gosh, he runs hard, he explodes, he explodes. Now how's he
- 21:11figure in? I mean, right now, that's a loaded room. That's
- 21:14a loaded room. If Jayleen Anderson, if Justin Johnson, if C.
- 21:17J. Donaldson are healthy, and Heisman front runner Jaime White's Jahime got about
- 21:22him? He Heisman front runner Jaime White. Then like, I don't know,
- 21:26so, like this is that classic case where just like patients just hang
- 21:32in there. But he he got a little something to him. It's interesting.
- 21:34We have not compared notes. No from Friday Saturday did not speak Friday
- 21:41small sample size one drill. I happen to be standing where the running backs
- 21:44are just a drill on air running through banks. He was the one that
- 21:48I went, oh, now, coaches always like it when your speed's different,
- 21:52even when it's in drills. He ran the drill fast. Caught my
- 21:56eye. J explodes And do you remember when we had him on when he
- 22:00first committed, or had him or his coach on. I think it was
- 22:03the coach. He's the big hunter. He's the big hunter. Oh yeah,
- 22:08yeah, they said yeah. Like I was talking to someone there Saturday.
- 22:11They said, if he could, his game pants would be camouflage like
- 22:17that. He just wants to hunt. And I said, well, this
- 22:18is really good. This is really good because I'm gonna go to my phone
- 22:23when I see him, and I'm gonna show him my board kill the sleeping
- 22:27boar kill. That thing was sleeping when I got done with it. You
- 22:32think, do you think he will be impressed that you shot it while it
- 22:33was sleeping. I'm not gonna say that that's your that's your angle to the
- 22:37whole story. I'm gonna say I might adjust it to it was attacking me.
- 22:44Might adjust it to that thing was snoring, you say, And I
- 22:51shot the only boar out there that had COPD, not not COPD? The
- 22:59what do you call the sleep thing? Apnea? Immense sleep. The boarheads
- 23:03sleep from here, you know. The Donaldson thing. I think what we
- 23:08may have forgot last year is him being back and assuming he can stay healthy,
- 23:15which I realize is a big assumption for a guy that has to run
- 23:18like he runs up into line so often. The third and fourth down options
- 23:23for this team. I continue to say this, the playbook should expand this
- 23:27year because you've got these options with the mobile quarterback with him right west Virginame's
- 23:33top five last year and fourth down conversions gives you some options on third and
- 23:37fourth and short here behind that line with a big back like that. Yeah,
- 23:41and if this is going to be the running team that we think it's
- 23:45going to be, you need five running back sure. Now, as crazy
- 23:48as that sounds, and you're going like there's no way, no, just
- 23:52yes is the answer. How many times have we seen where we've gone into
- 23:56years and go like, how are you going to keep all those backs happy?
- 24:00How you gonna keep all those backs happy? And then invariably at some
- 24:03point in the season, right, you got to bring one of these guys
- 24:07up and go like, okay, everyone's for whatever reason, these guys are
- 24:11all down. You gotta go yeah, okay. Other thoughts anything else stand
- 24:17out. Punting is very strong. Punt game is very strong. Oliver Straw
- 24:23got a chance to be high level performer in the league. And if you
- 24:30were that then you're going to be up in the national rankings as well.
- 24:33I think his diversity and in this crazy Australian rules football stuff. Have we
- 24:40talked about this though? They learn how to play because people are running straight
- 24:45at them all the time. That's how they learn how to play. So
- 24:48like we look at it and go, oh my gosh, like how do
- 24:51they get how that guy that ball came in and they just they just took
- 24:53off and ran. He still got the punt off because that's how they play
- 24:56that game, right, And so it's like the most perfect adaptation from one
- 25:04sport to another, Like at what sport do you need someone to potentially get
- 25:10the heck out of the way and still pump the ball? What's football?
- 25:14But that's how that played that game. So it's perfectly suited for that.
- 25:19So he got a chance. And Beanie Bishop, oh, Beanie Bishop mentioned
- 25:23continues to show up I think in return situations along with Heisman front runner Jehem
- 25:33White. Okay, that's your scrimmage recap. Yeah, nice night, Nice
- 25:42night. Okay, now do you want to go into over under? Yes,
- 25:48let me do this. Wait, let me do let me, let
- 25:51me let me do this. By the way, can I say something before
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- 26:48these good? Huh? Are these good? Are these good? Over unders?
- 26:52Yeah? I think so. I've got two of them. I've got
- 26:53one offense, one defense. Give you a hint earlier. The first one's
- 26:57gonna be about Cole Taylor and tight ends. Didn't we have an overrun around
- 27:03tight ends last year? Probably? I don't remember. You think I remember
- 27:07last year? No? So here part of the I'm intrigued with Taylor from
- 27:14the from the size aspect. And we've said this over the Neil Brown tenure
- 27:18here, it just it seemed like, because of the Michael Laughlin injury,
- 27:22the tight end was never featured as much in this offense as Neil would probably
- 27:26like it to be fair right, there were times when when a lawflan in
- 27:30particular was healthy that They tried to get him the football and it was a
- 27:33real weapon, but he just couldn't stay healthy on incredibly bad injury luck for
- 27:37Michael Laughlin. So now that you have a big, long, pass catching
- 27:42tight end, how much are you going to be able to use him in
- 27:45particular? And I know Traylan Davis, they like him, and you've got
- 27:48some things you can do formationally, But let's stay with Taylor for a second.
- 27:52Okay, Yeah, So what I did before I got to Taylor specifically,
- 27:56I went back since Neil has arrived and compiled some overall numbers on the
- 28:00tight ends historical data last four years, four seasons. Okay, here's what
- 28:06I found, And the last four seasons combined, West Virginia has had sixty
- 28:11three catches for four hundred and ninety one yards and just two touchdowns out of
- 28:15the tight end position. Fifteen catches a year fifteen point eight rounded up fifteen
- 28:21point seven five round eight on average, fifteen point eight receptions per year,
- 28:25one hundred and twenty two point eight yards receiving on the year, and an
- 28:30average of half a touchdown per season. Paltry numbers that you would think paltry
- 28:36should go up. So it brings me to this, not to thinking.
- 28:41Can Cole Taylor double the average number of receptions from the last four seasons all
- 28:49by himself over under thirty one and a half catches under in twenty twenty three?
- 28:57Did I go? Did I answer too quick? Yeah? Thirty one?
- 29:00Man, it's two two and a half a game. I'm thinking too,
- 29:07I'm thinking twenty four, twenty five. I'd be interested to see what
- 29:14you're taking. You've got unproven receivers. Devin Carter's really your only guy that's
- 29:18done it at this level consistently. You're gonna need to find some guys to
- 29:23throw it to. We just mentioned two of your more talented guys are true
- 29:27freshmen. Yeah, right, so they're not going to catch a ton of
- 29:30balls. Most likely someone's gonna have to catch passes. Thirty one and a
- 29:38half, you're under Basically, you're saying two and a half a game.
- 29:51It's I think your number is good. It'll be a variance between I'm gonna
- 29:57go, It'll be a variance between twenty five. You know, the bad
- 30:03news about these podcasts is like this isn't just like old school radio where it
- 30:07just goes in the air. No one can remember what you say, like,
- 30:08they'll come back and they'll track this. Now. Yeah, that's the
- 30:11fun of this. That's the fun of this. So I think the very
- 30:17a half per game, my variance would be twenty five two max would be
- 30:23thirty six. That would be three a game. That would be my max.
- 30:30I think your numbers intriguing. But I'm gonna say, what was the
- 30:41number thirty one and a half over under total receptions? You've already said under.
- 30:49He answered it in four seconds I did. I'm going I'm gonna stay
- 30:52with under. I hope I'm wrong. I really want to say over.
- 30:59It's probably under. That probably is the way to go, because that's a
- 31:03bit again, a lot of a lot of the lack of production I think
- 31:06has been just because of injury. Unders probably right, that's probably a tick
- 31:14too high to get all the way to thirty two catches. After last year
- 31:18you had sixteen total. Twenty eight and a half would be a really,
- 31:22really tough number to go around. It's probably under. Although I think I
- 31:26think he's gonna he's gonna have to play a role. Yes, okay,
- 31:30this isn't an official one, but kicking around the touchdown number, I was
- 31:36gonna have the touchdown number higher. But what about two and a half over
- 31:41under touchdowns for him? Again some history. You just had one last year
- 31:48combined. I'm sorry you had zero last year with a Laughlin trailin Davison Pollende
- 31:53you had. You had zero in twenty twenty one, you had two in
- 31:59twenty twenty, and you had zero in twenty nineteen. And three of Neil's
- 32:02four years, the tight ends clout zero touchdowns. Three he'll score three touchdowns.
- 32:07See, I feel like that's over two. Here's why he feel like
- 32:09he's got his that big target down inside the goal line. Don't throw the
- 32:14quarterback rolling out getting it up. Yes, don't throw the fade to a
- 32:20wide out, throw the fade to cold Taylor. Just throw it up.
- 32:23Stop with the fade. Just don't just throw it up. Throw the jump
- 32:28all up to cold Taylor and let him go swap it there or roll him
- 32:30with Garrett and then if the defender drops, then Garrett touchs and rents.
- 32:32I think I think it make I think he can get some touchdowns. You
- 32:36think if they work on that pretty good, you think he might be able
- 32:37to go up there and just one hand one down. Once you know what
- 32:40I mean, just kind of Taylor just kind of go up there and just
- 32:44grab it and just bring it down to the roar of the crowd. The
- 32:46band plays reverberates around the stadium, people dancing in the blue lots. Big,
- 32:52just send him down there and block out. Yeah, post up somebody
- 32:57get wide. Yeah, I think he. I think he can. He
- 32:59can be huge on down in third, fourth down and touchdowns, all right,
- 33:01So under on catches over on touchdowns. Even though that was an unofficial,
- 33:06yeah, unofficial. You want to think if I have another one,
- 33:10if I asked a trivia question about the tight ends, do you think do
- 33:14you think our listeners would cheat and look it up or do you think they
- 33:17would just text us their initial thought? Cheat? Cheat? What do you
- 33:28got? The tight end with the most touchdown receptions in the last decade,
- 33:35so twenty thirteen through last season, the West Virginia tight end that has the
- 33:40most touchdown receptions in that time is fill in the blank and text us,
- 33:45what's that text number? Three zero four four zero four forty eighty three.
- 33:54Three zero four four zero four forty eighty three. That's three h four four
- 33:59h four four eighty three. And I really hope that's the right number.
- 34:01Oh look it is three or four, four or four forty eighty three.
- 34:04Okay, text us West Virginia tight end with the most touchdown receptions over the
- 34:07past decade twenty thirteen to twenty twenty two. Okay, okay, got it.
- 34:12I'll reveal the answer next week. Okay, ready, second one,
- 34:15hang on, hit it. Let's talk interceptions. Shall we not us gaining
- 34:25them or us throwing them gaining? Oh? Okay, all right, cool,
- 34:30because it's clear West Virginia's got to have better luck and production in the
- 34:35turnover department. Struggled last year in turnover margin. In the first three seasons
- 34:40under Neil Brown, West Virginia average ten point three interceptions per season, almost
- 34:50one per game. In twenty twenty two, the Mountaineers only had four on
- 34:54the season, So first three years average ten. Last year only had four.
- 35:00Malachi Ruffin led the team with two. Gobi Spells had one as well.
- 35:07This season's leader in interceptions for West Virginia, we'll have over or under
- 35:15two and a half i nts. The team leader will have over or under
- 35:22two and a half. Some more history for you. Again. Last year's
- 35:29leader was rough and with two. West Virginia's team leader hasn't had more than
- 35:34two since twenty nineteen. Keith Washington had three that season. So last year
- 35:43leader Head two, twenty twenty one, leader Head two, twenty twenty the
- 35:47leader head two, and twenty nineteen Keith Washington led with three. So this
- 35:52year's number two and a half over under over, someone's gonna get three.
- 36:00I think so too. You got a regression to the mean. Our turnover
- 36:04margin collectively has to regress to the mean. That's why I feel pretty confident
- 36:08that you're not going to be as poultry as you were last year. At
- 36:12ten takeaways, four picks, and six fumble recoveries. That'll go that'll be,
- 36:17that'll go up. That'll go up. In twenty nineteens to some interesting
- 36:22numbers here, twenty nineteen, five different players had to pick twenty twenty nine
- 36:28different players, twenty twenty one six different players last year just three different players
- 36:32and the reception. So it speaks to the nature of those other defenses we've
- 36:37seen since Neil's been here, that we're really good and productive, had multiple
- 36:40playmakers on the defense right last year that took a step back. Got to
- 36:45get back to that. This year. The inability for last season's defense to
- 36:50get into position and ready to play limited their ability to get interceptions. I
- 37:00mean, it was just such a cluster and there are times, I mean,
- 37:04how can you get pass rush if you're not set? How can you
- 37:06How can you defend or cover guys if you're not properly perfectly aligned pre snap?
- 37:13You can't. So as a result, you're out of position to start.
- 37:15How are you gonna get picked? Hero is trying to make up grounds
- 37:17and not a position to make these plays. And I think it's it's further
- 37:22evidence or provides further hope for this season that that defense rebounds and looks more
- 37:28like it does did during Neil's first three years than what it did last year.
- 37:31Last year was the clear outlier in terms of production, turnovers, forced,
- 37:37big plays. It should return back to that this year, you would
- 37:40think, correct, So I'm with you. I think the team leader goes
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- 41:00starting to populate I'm sure it's getting chilli. Friday night, I was out
- 41:02then all of a suddenly got chilly in the air, as I predicted by
- 41:07the way leaves are falling. Texter, Hello Tony, Hello Tony Adam from
- 41:15Weirdon. I wanted to say I really enjoyed you as our guest speaker Thursday.
- 41:20He's up there and weird and I spoke at weird and spoke to Hancock
- 41:22County Schools Thursday last Thursday. I'm heading into my third year of teaching coaching
- 41:28in Hancock County. I'm going to be teaching WV history this year, and
- 41:31I can't wait to teach the kids about this great state. Side note,
- 41:36I'm hoping Weirdon can get some Kircheveil sometime soon. Anyway, take care,
- 41:40and I'm looking forward to more Three Guys episodes. We have had just the
- 41:45worst time, horrific job on our part of getting Kirchivel to the northern Panhandle.
- 41:50I mean, you can't get it up there. Good work on that,
- 41:52yeah, Texter, Three Guys. I'm not sure if I should be
- 41:57suspicious or impressed at the salesman's techniques at Daniel's Men's store. Any this will
- 42:04be interesting. Of course, the Senator helped me pick out the very best
- 42:07WV apparel while I was there yesterday, utilizing the ongoing Three Guys promotion.
- 42:12Of course, to my surprise, when I get home, I see the
- 42:15Country Roads Trust just released their new POLO. Now, I'm not accusing the
- 42:19sales staff of anything, but I think they withheld this information for me hours
- 42:22before release, knowing I would have to return. Needless to say, the
- 42:27new Country Roads Trust polo looks amazing and people better get them while they're still
- 42:30in stock. Well, there it is right there, that's the Country Roads.
- 42:34That's a trust. There. I saw it. Nico and Rodney Gallagher
- 42:38and Garrett Green all were wearing they were modeling that. Yeah, yeah,
- 42:44yeah, and they're available at Daniels They're out. They were out, but
- 42:49he kind of is accusing you of sliding them over towards something else. I
- 42:52no, I mean they were out. They were sitting right there, if
- 42:55I'm not mistaken. Daniels had it out on Facebook too, I mean very
- 42:59well publicized. Yeah, so you can get whatever you want there, Texter.
- 43:04I worked part time at the driving range in Ogleby Park and Wheeling,
- 43:07which allows me to play the beautiful courses up here for free. Anyway,
- 43:12I stumbled across this beauty in the shop at the driving range. Since the
- 43:15building has been here since the nineteen sixties, I would assume the pencils sharpeners
- 43:19is just as old. I didn't try using it in fear of getting tetanus
- 43:22from all the rust on it. Yeah, there you go, man,
- 43:25old school pencil sharpener. And that's old school would there too, I think
- 43:30that's the original would. But that makes sense in a golf shop, especially
- 43:32I get those little teeny pencils used in your scorecard. Texter. God dang,
- 43:38this is another one from the Northern panel. We're getting inundated by the
- 43:40Northern panhandling. This famous three guys quote appeared in the latest edition of Reader's
- 43:45Digest. No one in the history of the English language has ever said anything
- 43:50respectful following with with all due respect. That was from Dave Koenig, a
- 43:54comedian on Dry Bar Comedy, and John S. Marshall contributed that he also
- 44:00send us a picture of that quote. But John, your picture was three
- 44:04quarters sideways, and I did not have the technical acumen or the desire to
- 44:08flip it around to make it straight. So rather than making people turned her
- 44:12head like that, I just wrote it out and read it texture three guys.
- 44:16For some reason, this round of realignment Hollywood squares has me bummed out,
- 44:22even though we're safe for the time being. When I think about the
- 44:24obvious bubble of television revue that is going to burst soon, I'm reminded of
- 44:29two cautionary tales. Baseball cards and beanie babies. Both were somewhat scarce.
- 44:36At one point, the scarcity created some value. The manufacturers of both flooded
- 44:39the market to gain more sales by taking advantage of the popularity in the short
- 44:44term, but then the scarcity was gone, along with the value and the
- 44:47mystique the consumers were chasing. Well, the TV networks are eliminating scarcity of
- 44:52big matchups. When a high estate plays a powerhouse every week, it's not
- 44:55going to be special, especially when they're seven and five. We're watching TV
- 45:00networks make one of the biggest blunders in business history right before our eyes.
- 45:07Well, it's it's the NFL A vacation of the college game, which you
- 45:14know, I think it forgets some things there. It feels like it's easier
- 45:16to watch NFL games, if you don't have a team in the mix,
- 45:20people are more likely to do that. And number two, I think people
- 45:23underestimate fantasy football part of NFL that helps draw. Right, so there's a
- 45:30reason to watch some other games. And absolutely right, as we've said many
- 45:34times, I think I think these TV networks somewhere downline are making a mistake
- 45:37or the college administrators are making a mistake by allowing TV to control this,
- 45:40losing some great games, great games off the schedule. This text continues PS.
- 45:45I've been kicking around starting my own podcast. It would be sort of
- 45:49a postgame show, pregame show for three guys. I'm down to three possible
- 45:53names. Name one, three guys before, three guys before the game.
- 45:58I'd have to find two other guys name number two, three guys after three
- 46:01guys before the game. I don't know if I like this one because it's
- 46:06effectively three guys during the game, and I sort of would like to watch
- 46:08the game. And then number three Marcus Gori, because who didn't love Marcus
- 46:13GORI love the show. Signed Pete and Pennsborough. I'm probably leaned toward three.
- 46:19Pete Texter, Hey WV will beat Penn State. I believe the score
- 46:23will be twenty four to seventeen. WV goes eleven and two, I believe.
- 46:28Signed by Nelson Texter. I've got some numbers for you. Eleven and
- 46:32one, ten and two. So you heard it here first j D and
- 46:36Morgantown. What's that mean? He's saying eleven and one or ten and two.
- 46:39He's taking both those records. That's his prediction. He's optimistic. There
- 46:45you go, Texter. Hello, I take it you three guys haven't made
- 46:51the trip to the stray Cat Shimmysheck yet in Star City, because if you
- 46:57had already tasted the perfection and motion, I know I would have heard a
- 47:00response. By now, I hear the mayor of Star City is considering revising
- 47:05the city's name to Star Kitty because the Chimmy Chack is taking over. I
- 47:09love your All's channel, best West Virginia sports channel out there. By October,
- 47:14I will be running that business with my best friend, and I'll be
- 47:15back in Morgantown. Hashtag effordine. Trust me that your souls will love the
- 47:22Chimmy Chonga. Signed by Grayson Burg, Plymouth, Michigan, by way of
- 47:25Kaiser So you know where that is. No, that's where the hot dog
- 47:30shop. Oh yeah, yeah, so he's the hot dog shop's gone and
- 47:36now they painted it and he's got a little side seating area out there too,
- 47:40on the side. So they specialize in chimmy Chonga's what we love food.
- 47:45Bring some of those over there, Grayson, we'd love to try.
- 47:49Come on over, Texter. Correction says Cole And Raleigh County or maybe not
- 47:55Raleigh County, maybe Raleigh, North Carolina. Probably Raleigh, North Carolina.
- 48:00He says this. West Virginia had six players with a rushing touchdown last season,
- 48:06not five. Mathist Donaldson, Johnson Green Anderson and J. T.
- 48:12Daniels. Somehow he is right. Correction made noted because we're here to get
- 48:19things right. Text Three, guys, what are the lyrics to textual healing?
- 48:25I hear ooh ooh, I know, I know you feel some kind
- 48:30of way at my biz lane. Question mark. When you get that feeling
- 48:35you need textual healing, textual healing. I need help with the middle part.
- 48:39Clearly it isn't at my biz lane. But I can't figure out the
- 48:44actual lyrics for the life of me. I love the show. J D.
- 48:47From the southern coal fields. I don't know either, dude, but
- 48:52I wrote an email to the author producer of the of the of the song
- 48:59and he has not respond. I don't know what's going on with him.
- 49:02We must we must have made him mad at some point, right he probably
- 49:06walked? Yeah, Texter, Diehard Beckley Navy Mountaineer fan. Again, I
- 49:14was being tongue in cheek about running the triple option that takes discipline to run.
- 49:17Help me out. I spent time waiting for Goose Crowder to be given
- 49:22a chance. He either didn't get it or earn it. Which is it?
- 49:24And question is Troy, where West Virginia quarterbacks go to die? Signed
- 49:29by a frustrated West Virginia Naval aviator man. No, IM sure he had
- 49:36a chance, but obviously there were guys in front of him that he either
- 49:42obviously he didn't leap over or was willing to wait to leap over. So
- 49:47he did you know? Transfer? Texter? Hi, Tony, I've been
- 49:52listening to you since my time at WVU the Major Harris years. I remember
- 49:58you doing a postgame show from Jambe's Restaurant, enjoying the three Guys show.
- 50:02Question, what are your thoughts on coach Brown calling the plays in lieu of
- 50:07an offensive coordinator. How are you feeling about that? Seems like an important
- 50:09change, Thanks Michelle. Originally from Beckley, but now in Northern Virginia.
- 50:15I've gone on record there, Michelle as if my record or what I say
- 50:20matters. I'm totally good with it. Totally good with it. He wants
- 50:23to be that guy. He wants to have the responsibility of making sure that
- 50:29it's run the way that he wants it to be run, and the plays
- 50:30are what he wants. Totally good with it. I think it'll be a
- 50:34good we may be overthinking this. I think it will be a very very
- 50:37good relationship and communication that goes on among the offensive staff and Chad Scott.
- 50:47So yeah, I'm totally good with it. I thought he did a nice
- 50:50job of explaining his thought process there in one of his press conferences and basically
- 50:53just said, listen, that's the reason he got a head coaching job is
- 50:55because he had been a good offensive coordinator. Best seasons he's had been When
- 51:00he's calling the place, take control, he's calling the place. I like
- 51:02it. Gregg and Stewart, Virginia Rights. Hey, guys, good afternoon.
- 51:07Let's talk about Eddie Vester Wrennan's interview. It was so refreshing listening to
- 51:10him talk about how he embraces the opportunities that this country has to offer,
- 51:15and when asked about nil, he said it was all distractions. If only
- 51:20spoiled born Americans could see through the eyes of someone like him, I think
- 51:23w EV will be the sleeper in the Big twelve. Let's go Mountaineers,
- 51:30all capital letters, Texter. In the spirit of the Voice of the Mountaineers,
- 51:37I would like to announce the Stern Wheel episode of Three Guys on the
- 51:42Valley Gems Stern Wheeler in my beautiful adopted town of Marietta. June twenty nine,
- 51:46twenty twenty four. Ticket prices and time to be announced later. Wow,
- 51:51this is fun, I get it, Tony, more details later,
- 51:53Get on this, Brad, Chris and Marietta. So I looked up the
- 51:58Valley Jem Stern Wheel and I turned it over to our managing partner. That
- 52:05is that thing will seat a ton of people and you can actually, shockingly,
- 52:08you can actually go up and down the water while you're on the ship
- 52:14rather than just sit there and port. So thank you very much. Chris,
- 52:22You've already got us out of our skis on one event. You don't
- 52:23need to do another one that's in gym, So just chill. Thanks a
- 52:27lot, Chris Texter watching and listening to a lot of Texters right into the
- 52:32show and talk about forty team division Super Conferences. Why not expand on that
- 52:37in its place? The FBS one A and the FCS one DOUBLEA has worked
- 52:42for years. Why not expand that? After all, it was only in
- 52:45place for college football. Radford and Davidson can make the NCAA basketball tournaments but
- 52:52not compete in bowl games. They had their own league. Expand on that,
- 52:57create forty five to sixty four team mega league. Then have the rest
- 53:00either combine with the FCS or create the FPS Football Playoff Series, and then
- 53:07have the FBS and the FCS just keep on trucking. If Marshall, Oregon
- 53:10State and Lord forbid WV someday is left out, then there's at least something
- 53:15that's still there to play for. At the end of the day, it's
- 53:19football. FCS must get some ratings because ESPN has their playoffs on TV,
- 53:24and fans and students still care about their school. The bowls too. The
- 53:28schools care about winning the BFO Brady's Bowl, but does that Most of the
- 53:30country probably not love the show, Fellas Brian and Tampa. He's soon moving
- 53:35to Columbia, South Carolina. It's kind of Chip Kelly model. UCLA coach
- 53:42former Oregon coaches came out recently said something similar and we talked here about I
- 53:45said, everything's now like basically like a nonconference game. He said, make
- 53:50everything a nonconference game. Have two divisions FBSFCS, two different national championships among
- 53:55the teams that are up here. Now break that off and then have a
- 53:58have a go at him. Brian. The obviously, the reason ESPN broadcasts
- 54:09the what used to be the one Double A is just contractually that's just part
- 54:15of their just massive deal that they signed to do basketball and things like that.
- 54:20Remember this Power five football does not have an ncuble A oversight as far
- 54:25as the playoff goes. The Football Championship Series the FCS does. That's an
- 54:32NC double A sponsor championship. So there is That's one of the reasons why
- 54:37you do see that Texter with the football season with the Penn State just around
- 54:42the corner, what score would you perceive as a win for West Virginia in
- 54:45the event they lose under twenty down nine. Also, how many wins does
- 54:50Neil need to retain his job? Is six and six enough here to enter
- 54:58it on that at all? Let's say again, what scores you perceived is
- 55:00a win for the division under twenty under nine? Well, some of that
- 55:07has to be I get the question. We'll talk more about this in the
- 55:10coming weeks. The line sitting at just under three touchdowns, and I've got
- 55:17some numbers that will break out as we get closer to this in terms of
- 55:21ats and Penn State and that sort of thing. One keep it under the
- 55:23twenty and a half. That's a start, But I want to see how
- 55:27this game unfolds. Are you are you back and forth with them? Are
- 55:30you hanging around? Is it over right away? I think there's a lot
- 55:32of movement within that So I'm not going to put a score on that yet.
- 55:37We'll certainly talk about it afterwards, but start by by covering the number
- 55:40and then see how that looks as you head into the fourth quarter. Basically,
- 55:45what you're saying is how's it look for everything? How's it looking the
- 55:46game? How's it looked for the season. That's what it's going to come
- 55:49down it. What's it looked like. You'll know if it's if it's doing
- 55:52this or if it's doing that. You'll know text or Hey, three guys.
- 55:55Made my way into Morgantown at three o'clock in the morning this morning after
- 56:00a long journey from Long Island. I'm in town to officiate a wedding tomorrow
- 56:06and without pants to go with my jacket. Yeah, last minute. Not
- 56:12all too familiar with what Morgantown has to offer in that department, I quickly
- 56:15was reminded of my favorite podcast in a place they chat about often, Daniels
- 56:19of Morgantown. I did a quick Google search found they were two miles from
- 56:22where I'm staying. I made my way there. I was blown away by
- 56:27the terrific selection of mountaineer gear. It got me a shirt, oh and
- 56:30pants. The excellent staff got me all set for the wedding this week,
- 56:35and it even tailored my trousers to fit perfectly. Right then and there,
- 56:38while I was browsing the WVU selection. Terrific selection, terrific staff, terrific
- 56:45podcast. Thank you three guys and Daniels. Now I don't have to officiate
- 56:49the wedding in shorts. Now, I mean just another service that those through.
- 56:53Yeah, all right? Tech Zach from Mouskeegan, Michigan. Seems like
- 57:04if your last name is a color, you're destined to be good at sports.
- 57:07Who is your guy's favorite player that shares a last name with the name
- 57:10of a color. Obviously Pat White is an easy out. You ever thought
- 57:16about this at all? Have not? Pat White is an easy answer.
- 57:22Had a kid in high school name Mark mav uh troum what you Yeah,
- 57:32played four sports? Played four sports like high school? Probably Mark Mav Texter.
- 57:40Hey, three guys. Guy's name was Mark Mov. Yeah, really
- 57:45good athlete apparently for sport, for sports, which is hard to do.
- 57:47And he was big even before MAV became a popular color because Mov had it
- 57:52to day. I think you know that it's kind of pass through. You
- 58:07don't get a whole lot on it anymore. Mark was still good, really
- 58:13good. Hey, three guys. Troy from Charlottesville. Been a while since
- 58:19I've texted, but I'm listening every week at any more. Optimistic about the
- 58:22season. Won't be able to watch the first game this year. I'm getting
- 58:24married on September the second. Sadly, I have been told I'm unable to
- 58:29bring a TV into the barn after our wedding reception. Most of my extended
- 58:34family will be coming down from various parts of West Virginia, so I figure
- 58:37I'll be receiving regular updates. Hope we come ready to play. Let's go
- 58:40Mountaineers. Well, congratulations Troy on this fantastic day of your life and the
- 58:47marriage that's coming up there. And as you said, sadly, I've been
- 58:52told I'm unable to bring a television into the barn after our wedding reception.
- 59:00I think you're on your way for a very disjointed wedding reception, to be
- 59:02quite honest with you, because here's what's gonna happen, dude. You got
- 59:08these West Virginia people in there, they're gonna be locked in, and if
- 59:15you can't bring a TV, and I guarantee it, it's gonna be a
- 59:19cascade of iPhones and Apple Watches and you're gonna be seeing more. I mean,
- 59:22there might be people getting carpal tunnel by doing this the entire night,
- 59:28like yeah, and then you're gonna have the walkover crew and they're gonna walk
- 59:30over and know that your new wife doesn't want to hear it, so they're
- 59:35just gonna give you the sidewalk. They're gonna give you the old seventeen ten
- 59:40four to go in the second quarter, They're gonna give you that one.
- 59:44So that's where I'm saying it gets disjointed. Then you're gonna kind of and
- 59:47she's gonna see you kind of doing the old next shuffle, and then what
- 59:52happens is and I'm assuming there may be spirits and cold beers at your wedding.
- 59:58Once that gets going in at barn, people get more and more loose,
- 1:00:02and basically it'll start clandestine with like walk buys, and then it'll be
- 1:00:07direct shouts across the entire burn get route here and rout here. Tied it
- 1:00:13up seventeen seventeen forty two yard field goal, final play of the half,
- 1:00:17half time seven, and she's gonna get absolutely if she doesn't want the TV
- 1:00:22there, she's gonna get sick about it. Well, and if it's close
- 1:00:24tied West Virginia leading coming down the fourth crazy, you might abandon all decorum
- 1:00:30and just go straight game watching TV. Potentially, Well, I wonder if
- 1:00:37there's Wi Fi there in the barn. The greatest in a wedding reception might
- 1:00:39have some WiFi which will help the iPhone application. The greatest wedding disruption in
- 1:00:45West Virginia athletics history took place in March of nineteen ninety eight when Jared West's
- 1:00:52brother was getting married at the same moment that Jared West hit the shot to
- 1:01:00beat Cincinnati to propel West Virginia into the Sweet sixteen, and his family was
- 1:01:04watching, if I remember correctly, in the church getting ready to start the
- 1:01:09wedding, and the thing went blank on the screen just as Jared let that
- 1:01:15thing go. But the game was over before the wedding officially began. Yeah,
- 1:01:22yeah, But it was like, you know, they were probably lined
- 1:01:23up, you know in those lines where the one side the guys, the
- 1:01:27other side the girls are getting ready to come and do the meat walk up.
- 1:01:30There was that close to tipoff. It was right there and went snowed
- 1:01:34out. Young people don't know what I'm talking about when I say snowed out
- 1:01:37because they don't know what snow looks like on a television. But like old
- 1:01:40school buffering, old school it was. It was the old version of buffering.
- 1:01:44Yes, that's the all time disruption. Congratulations on the wedding text.
- 1:01:51He to the guy who says to Hoppy that playing two Power five opponents is
- 1:01:54not unfair if we are a top ten team. It would be even more
- 1:02:00were unfair if we were trying to compete for a spot in the playoff.
- 1:02:04What if we go Big twelve champs twelve and one with a Penn State loss
- 1:02:07and then get leaped over for a playoff spot by an eleven and one SEC
- 1:02:10team that didn't make the SEC title game. That extra Power five game doesn't
- 1:02:15help an average West Virginia team, nor does it make the path easier for
- 1:02:19a great WVU team. Signed by Troy and Long Island. He's gotta he's
- 1:02:23got an opinion. Are packed full of pack full of juice right there?
- 1:02:27Well done, Troy Texter. Oh here he comes our boy p one,
- 1:02:32Jason and Tulsa back two straight shows. He's getting into the road of them
- 1:02:37now, I don't worry he does in the summer goes quiet. Hey,
- 1:02:43guys, just had to Fireman's carry my bag the final two holes in this
- 1:02:46one hundred and four degree Tulsa heat because the straps broke so figured I'd take
- 1:02:52a little rest and provide the caveat for my position that we can win eight
- 1:02:55games, a position first reported by Matt and Tulsa. Pete Thamil didn't get
- 1:03:00that one. We must, he writes in all Capitol letters, run the
- 1:03:05ball at least forty five times a game. The twenty sixteen World Crushing Mountaineers
- 1:03:10averaged forty four point six, so forty five rushes per regular season game.
- 1:03:16I'd like to see that number go north of fifty. I'll add that my
- 1:03:20head coaching record does not include a single win, but it doesn't include a
- 1:03:23single loss either, so technically I'm undefeated. Just to point out that my
- 1:03:30one hundred and fifty to one bet on Harmon wasn't a fluke. I also
- 1:03:35had Zach Johnson at one hundred and twenty to one to win St. Andrew's
- 1:03:37in twenty fifteen, Kevin nah at forty five to one to win the twenty
- 1:03:43eighteen Greenbrier, and I picked camp Smith fifty five to one to win at
- 1:03:47St. Andrew's last year. And yes, all due respect to the number
- 1:03:52four and a half, but four and a half as a joke, absolute
- 1:03:57joke. Over love the show. I think he's coming after you there on
- 1:04:00the last part. Yeah, I mean, I get it. I was
- 1:04:01the first one first reported by me that the number was a little bit low.
- 1:04:04You know. I was looking at it that the other day when I
- 1:04:06went back on that, and that's the number of players to score a rushing
- 1:04:11touchdown for West Virginia this year. We said it, or I said it
- 1:04:14at four and a half to begin right, seems incredibly low. But how
- 1:04:18about this. In the last two plus decades, so twenty three seasons,
- 1:04:24there's only been eight times where West Virginia had more than four and a half
- 1:04:30players score a touchdown rushing touchdown on the season, So just a tad over
- 1:04:33one third. So if you put the number at five, well, let
- 1:04:36me give you another one. Four in every season under Neil except for last
- 1:04:42year when it was six. As pointed out by the list, I had
- 1:04:45five last six. So if you put the number at five and a half
- 1:04:48there you probably get crushed with under money. But four and a half did
- 1:04:54seem like a low number. So why we talked last show. I thought
- 1:04:56that was an unusual number, one that seemed low. You look at some
- 1:05:00of the other ones and maybe it wasn't We'll see. For over four decades,
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- 1:05:39my name is Brady Crisp. I'm originally from Belle, West Virginia, Eastern
- 1:05:44Kanaal County. I'm a proud grat of DuPont High School class of nineteen ninety
- 1:05:47five, which brings me to my point of the text. Boy, here
- 1:05:50we go. In December of nineteen ninety two, on a blustery, cold
- 1:05:57Saturday afternoon, I stood beside you, Tony, and I watched my Randy
- 1:06:01Moss lead Panthers beat the brook Bruins thirty six to seven. You see,
- 1:06:05it was my sophomore year. I injured my ankle playing baseball in the previous
- 1:06:12summer, so I was unable to play football that year. But in order
- 1:06:14to stay close to the team, I was asked by the video coordinator to
- 1:06:16do the wide angle camera work for the games. And on Saturday, as
- 1:06:19you called that game for the station up in the Northern Panhandle, I worked
- 1:06:24the camera right beside you. This is gonna get dangerous. A couple of
- 1:06:29things I remember distinctly. Now it's gonna get real scary. I could tell
- 1:06:32you were extremely good at play by play on the tape from that game.
- 1:06:35If you turn the sound up, one can hear a young stirring Tony KIRITI
- 1:06:39call a few of the plays. Other times the sound on the VHS tape
- 1:06:42cuts off, which sucks because even then you were on point on the play
- 1:06:46by play parentheses, even if you were a little bit brook biased, But
- 1:06:50I won't hate you're brook biased. Yeah, I'm sure. Anyway, the
- 1:06:59Northern State, and I assume was signing your paycheck. I'm trying to remember
- 1:07:05where was that game going, Like that was obvious that was going somewhere.
- 1:07:12I mean, was that live to tape. Was it for real? I
- 1:07:14don't know. Okay, anyway, one other thing I recall, Oh this
- 1:07:16is good. What do you got? You were desperately trying to get your
- 1:07:21runner whose name I forget, to secure a postgame interview with Randy Moss.
- 1:07:28Your runner kept coming back with no coach. Whitman's policy was no interviews for
- 1:07:34individuals directly after the game, but a young Tony Kariti was not taking no
- 1:07:41for an answer. That's a surprise, you said to him, come on,
- 1:07:45and you in certain name. I really need you to come through for
- 1:07:48me. I watched him as he left the Lately Field press box. He
- 1:07:54actually asked the first time, but after that I could see him going down
- 1:08:00to the bottom of the bleachers, standing there for five minutes or so,
- 1:08:04and then walking back up, never asking anyone anything except for the press box
- 1:08:10coffee guy for a cup of Joe. I struggled with whether to tell you
- 1:08:15or not. I decided that I didn't want to get the kid in trouble,
- 1:08:18so I acquiesced my sincere apologies. I would love to know who that
- 1:08:24runner was. And do you remember how cold that day was? Wow,
- 1:08:29there's a whole lot there. So I had someone with me that was a
- 1:08:31production assistant. We said, go down, let's get Randy Moss interviewed.
- 1:08:35And then he went once and asked, and then he faked it out and
- 1:08:40just stood down at the bleachers, then came back up like he was asking.
- 1:08:43I'd love to know that too. I die to know who that was
- 1:08:45nineteen ninety two. Maybe Jeff Jenkins would remember. Maybe Jeff Jenkins would remember.
- 1:08:55Now you're not saying it was Jeff Jenkins that did that. Of course
- 1:08:57Jeff Jenkins would go down there and even probably got the team rules. Be
- 1:09:00damned. Yeah, exactly, Jeff Jenkins would have done that. I'd love
- 1:09:04to know who that was. Who knows? Does he? He said?
- 1:09:11Do you remember how cold that day was? I one thousand percent remember how
- 1:09:15cold that day was because and I have not looked at this, but I
- 1:09:19here's my crazy brain, here's my ready for my crazy brain. Let's go
- 1:09:24back and find that day. Did he give the exact day of the game,
- 1:09:28December of nineteen ninety two. I had to be the first. It
- 1:09:30had to be the first Saturday of December in nineteen ninety two. I would
- 1:09:34bet, I would bet that on that same day, West Virginia's basketball team
- 1:09:43played Maryland in the coliseum that night, and I remember leaving that game,
- 1:09:49jumping in my car driving up the interstate and I had to do the TV
- 1:09:56of the West Virginia Maryland game that night, and I remember the This is
- 1:10:00how I know it was cold. I never took off one piece of clothing
- 1:10:04the entire two hours up the road. That's how cold I was. Like,
- 1:10:09I can remember that like yesterday driving up the road. That was a
- 1:10:14playoff game, obviously championship game. Yeah, okay it was. It was
- 1:10:18the state first weekend in December, so you can look that up. Hey,
- 1:10:21Jack, our producer, did Jack to go to wvstats dot com c
- 1:10:27West Virginia Maryland Basketball and see nineteen ninety two what the date was, and
- 1:10:32if it was a Saturday. I would almost guarantee I remember doing that game
- 1:10:35because I remember freezing to death driving all the way up the interstate. PS.
- 1:10:41One word thing, this is directed toward hoppy. He asked about the
- 1:10:45word effording. Effording became a word when Billy Bob Thornton used it in Armageddon
- 1:10:49when delivering the news to the movies President of the United States that an asteroid
- 1:10:55maybe heading toward earth and zoom doom music destroy it. The President asked,
- 1:11:00is this thing going to hit us? And Billy Bob's answer was, we
- 1:11:03are efforting that as we speak, mister President. So there you go.
- 1:11:08Finally figure that one out. Texter Wayne from Fredericksburg, I'm looking into the
- 1:11:14past and into the future. When coach Brown arrived, the offensive line was
- 1:11:17bad, really bad. It's taken five years to get this promising offensive line.
- 1:11:23Aren't that all in this? Aren't they all in the same classy class,
- 1:11:27either as juniors or seniors. If that's the case, what does the
- 1:11:30future hold? Does history repeat itself when we go back to building an offensive
- 1:11:32line from scratch? Thanks, aren't they not in the same class? No,
- 1:11:42you're gonna lose obviously a bunch of dudes. Short answer to your question
- 1:11:46is this. They have been building obviously this line to what you see,
- 1:11:51but they've also been building behind it so they feel real comfortable, you know,
- 1:11:57going forward that they've got the right kind of guys going forward. Now,
- 1:12:01are you going to replace the experience level of a Doug Nestor and a
- 1:12:05Zach Frazier after this coming season? And why at MILEM can't leave yet.
- 1:12:09He's got to play three, so this would be one more for him at
- 1:12:12a minimum. So you don't lose all of them, but you do lose
- 1:12:16some guys. But you know, the Tomas, Remax, the Wyatt Milem
- 1:12:20at least for another year. After this year, there's guys there sally going
- 1:12:31to be a player. They feel pretty good of what they have in that
- 1:12:36room. But obviously what you'll lose is experience. Solomon Wiedman Texter, Hello
- 1:12:45Matt from Louisville. Saturday night, I watched my little cousins high school game
- 1:12:49in Bardstown, Kentucky. During pregame, they play Sweet Caroline. I'm in
- 1:12:54a pickle? Do I risk being that guy? I was with there with
- 1:12:58two other WV fans, So I'm proceeding to sing it the right way.
- 1:13:01A lot of people laughed, and then I heard a guy saying, go
- 1:13:05Pit Go. He was sitting right behind me. I simply asked, are
- 1:13:10you a pit fan? He said yes. I said, see, it
- 1:13:15brought us together. Thank you very much, Texter. I wanted to give
- 1:13:19a shout out to Tyson Baigent. He played lights out Saturday night for the
- 1:13:25Chicago Bears in a battle for their number two quarterbacks spot. He also ran
- 1:13:29in for a touchdown. Look at his numbers, pretty good, He's been
- 1:13:31impressive. Congratulations to Tyson. Want a fantastic story. That's developing to be
- 1:13:36unbelievable high school, collegiate career, and now you know, all indications are
- 1:13:43he's making that roster and he got people. He has people excited there in
- 1:13:47the Bears organization and where they've opened. The NFL's opened that quarterback position too.
- 1:13:53You can have a you can carry a third quarterback this year, which
- 1:13:56is great. So it looks like he's in great position for that. And
- 1:13:58as the Texter says, he's in a he's in a battle to take that
- 1:14:00backup job. So I was reading it's an awesome story. They used to
- 1:14:03be able to They used to be able to waive you and then sign you
- 1:14:08back onto the practice squad. But if they try to do that with him,
- 1:14:12he'll be get He'll go and grab him off the path. Texter Logan
- 1:14:17and Greenboro County. I'm excited for part two of the over Under episode.
- 1:14:23I haven't been this excited for a part two of a series since Harry Potter
- 1:14:27back in twenty eleven. I added the picture above to summarize how everything felt
- 1:14:31lately, not just the Big Twelve, but all of college football. There
- 1:14:35you go. There's a sign, he says, in case you guys are
- 1:14:39curious of who that is, it's Doctor Strange from the twenty Eighteens Avengers Infinity
- 1:14:45War. Thank you for all the work that you do. Thank you,
- 1:14:50thank you. Signed by Logan. Hopefully Part two lived up to the hype.
- 1:14:56Yeah, might have a Part three on that really might have a couple
- 1:15:00more Texter. The more I think about it, Tony is on right track
- 1:15:05with seven to eight different players scoring rushing touchdowns. Seven to eight. I'm
- 1:15:10predicting c J. Garrett, Justin Johnson, Jalen Anderson, Jehime White,
- 1:15:14Nico, DJ Oliver, maybe a receiver like a Jay, Shaun Poker,
- 1:15:17Rodney Gallagher. Thanks, I love the podcast, Love the over under series.
- 1:15:21Signed by Ryan and Scott Depot Texter receiver could happen. Sure been a
- 1:15:29long time twenty twelve. They got to make sure they hand it back to
- 1:15:33him, don't hand it forward to him because since pass. Yeah, that's
- 1:15:39beating it, that's cheating this system. I'm counting that as a rushing touchdown.
- 1:15:44No, you are not. There's not a rushing touchdown the stats and
- 1:15:47you're not counting it as such. That's true, Astrick, give me the
- 1:15:53astrick on it. Noope, Texter Stephen Mineral County found the last two cans
- 1:15:59of kerchev all at Chestnum brew Works on Saturday evening Stephen Mineral County. He
- 1:16:03sent us a picture of two Kansas Kircheville. Thanks Steve, yep. So
- 1:16:10it was the last two after another batch. That batch went fast, it
- 1:16:14did. And I was over there at the brew works at Chestnump brew Works
- 1:16:18last week and the brewer this wasn't Bill, this was Bill's guy. Bill
- 1:16:28can't do everything. I mean, you gotta have guys. Sure, And
- 1:16:32Bill's guy was there and he told me he had just started one either that
- 1:16:36day or the day before. So two more coming. Yeah, that'll set
- 1:16:42right up for the home opener against du Quesney in the food court. Certainly
- 1:16:48wouldn't want to do that food court without any Kircheville. So you're coming along
- 1:16:53now with food court will happen. He just committed to the food court right
- 1:16:57there, said, certain wouldn't want to do that food court without the Kirchel
- 1:17:00tongue in cheek sarcasm directed at you. It's going well, though you got
- 1:17:03any meetings coming up on that or anything? I think there's a meeting today,
- 1:17:08and there it is. In fact, I did hear that. I
- 1:17:11can't attend though either makes me nervous. No, you can't starts in twenty
- 1:17:14minutes, not because you'd probably have it. Okay, things are going swimmingly.
- 1:17:18That's first reported here by me on the food court. Can you imagine
- 1:17:24how that's going to be first game of the season. Mountaineer fans making their
- 1:17:28trek in across the state and beyond, and here they come, going to
- 1:17:32our food court, the three Guys food court, big tall kerch of ails
- 1:17:38being served, maybe by yourself a four pack, take it along with you.
- 1:17:44Rev Kev's barbecue over there, Get yourself a big ghost burger, a
- 1:17:49how cheese steak from the food truck. Get some I don't know. Maybe
- 1:17:55I'm just guessing, get some great ice cream and shakes from the Greenbrier Dairy.
- 1:18:00Wouldn't that be kind of neat? It all sounds wonderful. If that
- 1:18:03can all get done, that sounds wonderful. Let's just make it happen.
- 1:18:05I will have one of those cheese steaks though, Oh text her Chowamichi listening
- 1:18:12to the latest episode. Now, I just heard that Rusty will run Kerchivel
- 1:18:16to Orlando for me in his van. What a man. I will prepurchase
- 1:18:20the beer in West Virginia for him to bring it down. So it's one
- 1:18:25legal, Brad. So he'll come here, he'll do the deal, he'll
- 1:18:28sign the way bill up here, and then they'll ship it down. Please
- 1:18:31make this happen, Fellas. Text me back, I'll give you my information
- 1:18:34to relate to Rusty. Let's go Dino and Morganton. We can do that.
- 1:18:39Now. Would that make it legal? I don't know, will it?
- 1:18:42Yeah? It would because if he comes up here and buys a comes
- 1:18:46up here, what if he just calls No, If he comes up here
- 1:18:48and buys a van full of beer, I'm gonna make it completely. He
- 1:18:51walks in there and buys a van full of beer, right, he now
- 1:18:55owns that beer. He owns the beer. Yeah, so now he can
- 1:19:00do with it what he wants. He wants to drive it to where he
- 1:19:02lives in Florida. He can go put it in his garage in Florida.
- 1:19:06Now who he gives it to once he gets there is his business if he
- 1:19:11wants to share his beer boom right, Yeah, it makes sense. Awesome,
- 1:19:17sure, sure, as long as dinos not then reselling it. That's
- 1:19:27where you'd get into a problem. No, he's not for personal consumption.
- 1:19:30Yeah. When we come back on Three Guys later this week, that's kind
- 1:19:38of a weird week because this is the last week before the game week Game
- 1:19:45week. We know, Monday we preview and then Thursday, I don't know
- 1:19:49what we'll do, but we'll do something. But anyway, when we come
- 1:19:53back later this week, and it's probably going to be on Thursday, we'll
- 1:19:57spend time. We'll interview Neil Brown on the pod on our next venture in
- 1:20:03on Thursday. Excellent. Yeah, we'll talk to Neil. You know,
- 1:20:06we might want to hit him on his Brown mentioned index, see if he
- 1:20:10knows what yes and when we think you might give me your over unders?
- 1:20:15Do you think he'd answer my over unders? Might give him one? I
- 1:20:17would throw like tight end, Neil. Do you think it's realistic to think
- 1:20:21that Cole Taylor could catch two and a half touchdowns two and a half touchdowns
- 1:20:27or thirty balls or twenty five passes during the seat. Why he wouldn't.
- 1:20:31He'd probably have pretty good idea, maybe a little better than the two of
- 1:20:34us. We'll try and work up an over under for Neil. That'd be
- 1:20:39good. This is also a sad ending to this podcast. This is sad,
- 1:20:45sad sad ending well, because this is the last podcast for our summer
- 1:20:51producer, Jumping Jack Carlson. Is this that this is the last one?
- 1:20:55He out he'd be gone? Oh that is a sad day. Going back
- 1:20:58to school. He had a strong call up this year. He got called
- 1:21:01up to the bigs. He had a strong call up session. Understatement,
- 1:21:05I would say this as you know, I don't over I don't over hype
- 1:21:16our support staff through the years, right, we had some issues with Taylor.
- 1:21:21I mean we brought him along. Eventually it became serviceable. I mean
- 1:21:25you work him. Yeah, he became fine. But like if we were
- 1:21:29to do a statue, if we were to do a statue of an intern,
- 1:21:32I think you'd be with me on this, or at least rename the
- 1:21:34rename the floor, rename the studio floor here, like Jumping Jack here,
- 1:21:40just start with the retire of the jersey. Yeah number, would you get
- 1:21:44that far? Jack's number one. Jack's number one, so we would retire
- 1:21:47Joe. So Jack, Jack's out, But that's okay because he has trained
- 1:21:53our new producer like to a t, and that is Leaping Luke Rousy from
- 1:22:00Greenborough County. Leaping Luke will take over. Is that the real nickname.
- 1:22:04It's a tentative nickname at this part. So that's what we're doing. So
- 1:22:09Jack, thank you a million times. What a summer, great season,
- 1:22:13Jack, what a summer he's had. Three guys brought to us by the
- 1:22:15Burdette Camping Center. Visit them at Burdette Camping dot Com. By the Burdette
- 1:22:19Camping Center, Burdette Camping dot com, by Gomart sign up for the Mountaineerman
- 1:22:25Trip gomart dot com. Check it out by Comax Business Systems, keeping West
- 1:22:30Virginia's business data safe, secure and efficient for twenty five years. Check them
- 1:22:33out at COMAXWV dot com. And by Louwendell Marine Sales. They sell family
- 1:22:38fund. Visit them at Louwendell Marine Sales dot com. Thanks for being with
- 1:22:43us, y'all be good, See you one, two, three, and