Latest / How Canadian Markets Work / Episode 4: Auction Markets and Dealer Markets
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- 0:00Imagine it's a Tuesday afternoon. You're sitting
- 0:03there and you decide to make two trades in your
- 0:06brokerage account. Just a quiet afternoon at
- 0:09home. Exactly. Yeah. So first you buy a stock
- 0:11and instantly you kind of feel like a Wall Street
- 0:13insider. Right. You see the price blinking on
- 0:16the screen. You watch it tick up and down. You
- 0:18see the exact volume of buyers and sellers too.
- 0:21Yeah. Lining up right in front of you. You know
- 0:22exactly where you stand. But then maybe 10 minutes
- 0:26later, you decide to buy a corporate bond. And
- 0:28that's when things change. Completely. The screen
- 0:30just goes completely dark. All that beautiful
- 0:32context, it just vanishes. You are simply handed
- 0:35a single number, a take -it -or -leave -it price,
- 0:39with absolutely no way to verify if it is actually...
- 0:43fair. It is an incredibly common experience for
- 0:46retail investors and, well, it almost always
- 0:48causes a sense of mild panning. Oh, for sure.
- 0:50You assume something is broken or that your brokerage
- 0:53platform is somehow hiding information from you,
- 0:55but it's not a glitch. Right. It's a fundamental
- 0:58difference in the invisible machinery operating
- 1:00beneath the surface of the market. Today, we
- 1:03are finding out exactly where your money goes
- 1:04when those lights go out. Our source material
- 1:08is drawn from episode four of the Canadian financial
- 1:11series, How Canadian Markets Work. In the original
- 1:15text, the hosts, John and Jane, they really break
- 1:18down the fascinating, highly structured world
- 1:21of... auction markets and dealer markets. And
- 1:24while those terms, I mean, they sound like textbook
- 1:25jargon, they are really just two completely different
- 1:28ways of answering the most basic human question
- 1:31in finance. Which is? What is this particular
- 1:34asset actually worth right now? OK, let's unpack
- 1:36this. Our mission today is to decode that frustrating,
- 1:41opaque experience of buying a bond. And along
- 1:44the way, we're going to uncover the invisible
- 1:46fees that are baked into these everyday transactions.
- 1:50It's a very important mission for anyone managing
- 1:52their own money. It really is. So to ground all
- 1:54of this, let's go back to that opening scenario.
- 1:57That is actually pulled directly from Jane, one
- 1:59of the hosts in our service material. Right,
- 2:00her two trades. Yeah, two trades made on the
- 2:03exact same afternoon for the exact same amount
- 2:06of money, but yielding two completely different
- 2:08user experiences. You have transparency versus
- 2:11total opacity. Exactly. When she buys the stock,
- 2:14she is participating in an auction market. But
- 2:17when she buys the bond, she is participating
- 2:19in a dealer market. Two distinct ecosystems.
- 2:22Completely different. I want to focus on how
- 2:24this actually feels to the investor. Trading
- 2:27a stock. It feels like walking into a bustling,
- 2:33brightly lit art auction. That's a great way
- 2:35to picture it. Right. The auctioneer is at the
- 2:37front of the room. Everyone's paddles are visible
- 2:39in the air. And you can see exactly what the
- 2:41crowd is willing to pay. If the painting is going
- 2:44for $5 ,000, you know it's because three other
- 2:47people in the room are actively shouting out
- 2:49$4 ,900. You see the demand with your own eyes.
- 2:51Exactly. But the bond market, that feels like
- 2:54walking onto a private, kind of poorly lit used
- 2:57car lot. You wander around, you find a sedan,
- 3:00and there is just a sticker price on the windshield.
- 3:03Just a solitary number. Yeah, and you have absolutely
- 3:06no idea what the dealer paid for that car, and
- 3:09you have no idea if anyone else would pay that
- 3:11sticker price. That used car lot analogy is actually
- 3:14perfect, especially if we look at the mechanics
- 3:16of why it operates that way. Why is that? Well...
- 3:19When you walk onto that lot, the dealer isn't
- 3:22acting as a matchmaker. They aren't finding a
- 3:24seller to hand you the keys. Right. The dealer
- 3:26actually owns that car. They bought it with their
- 3:29own money. It's sitting on their lot taking up
- 3:31space and, you know, they need to sell it to
- 3:34you for more than they paid for it. Because if
- 3:36they don't. If you don't buy it and no one else
- 3:38buys it, that car rusts and the dealer takes
- 3:41a massive financial loss. So they hold the risk.
- 3:44Precisely. What's fascinating here is that this
- 3:47immense asymmetry of information This difference
- 3:50between the open art auction where everyone is
- 3:52competing and the quiet car lot where the dealer
- 3:55holds all the inventory. It's the structural
- 3:57foundation of our financial system. Well, wait.
- 4:01If the open art auction is so efficient and the
- 4:03stock trade is so beautifully transparent, how
- 4:07does that machinery actually work? You mean under
- 4:10the hood? Yeah, exactly. Why do we feel so in
- 4:13control when we trade a stock? Because you are
- 4:16stepping into the public square. When we talk
- 4:19about auction markets, the primary example in
- 4:21our Canadian source material is the TSX, the
- 4:25Toronto Stock Exchange. Like the TSX. And the
- 4:28beating heart of an exchange like the TSX is
- 4:31something called a central order book. Let's
- 4:34visualize that central order book for a second.
- 4:36What does it actually look like behind the screen?
- 4:38Imagine a massive, continuously updating digital
- 4:41ledger, and it's divided into two columns. OK,
- 4:44two columns. On one side, everyone who wants
- 4:46to buy the stock publicly posts their bid, which
- 4:49is the maximal price they're willing to pay.
- 4:51Got it. On the other side, everyone who wants
- 4:53to sell publicly posts their ask, which is the
- 4:56minimum price they're willing to accept. So you
- 4:58basically have a column of buyers and a column
- 5:00of sellers all staring across this digital ledger
- 5:03at one another. Yes. And a trade only ever happens
- 5:07when the highest buyer and the lowest seller
- 5:09finally meet in the middle. The crucial element
- 5:12here is visibility. You can look at this ledger
- 5:14and see that there are, say, 400 shares offered
- 5:18at $80 and 900 shares being did at $79 .95. So
- 5:23you have the exact same data. as the massive
- 5:26institutions. Exactly the same data. So if everyone
- 5:29is just shouting out the numbers they want, who
- 5:31actually decides what the stock is worth, there's
- 5:33no central authority stamping a price tag on
- 5:36it. No authority at all. Public competition polices
- 5:39the price. Oh, wow. The market itself doesn't
- 5:42actually set the value. the crowd does. So the
- 5:45market itself doesn't actually set the price
- 5:47the crowd does. That is a really elegant system.
- 5:50It is incredibly efficient because hundreds sometimes
- 5:54thousands of participants are actively competing
- 5:57to post the best possible price. Makes sense.
- 5:59If someone wanders into the market and posts
- 6:01a bid that is completely unreasonable say they
- 6:05want to buy shares for seventy five dollars when
- 6:07the entire crowd is bidding 80 they don't suddenly
- 6:10get a magical bargain. The system just ignores
- 6:12them. It just ignores them. They never get to
- 6:15trade because someone else in the crowd is always
- 6:16willing to offer a better, fairer price. So the
- 6:19sheer volume of the crowd protects the individual
- 6:22investor from getting ripped off. That's exactly
- 6:24right. OK, well, if that central order book is
- 6:27so brilliant and it protects the investor so
- 6:29well, why on earth did Jane's bond trade happen
- 6:33in the dark? That's a great question. Like, why
- 6:35don't we just use that exact same public ledger
- 6:38for everything? Because sometimes the public
- 6:40square is completely empty. Empty. Yeah. And
- 6:44this is where we have to look closely at the
- 6:46dealer market. It's also known as the over -the
- 6:48-counter or OTC market. Right, OTC. In this ecosystem,
- 6:52there is no central order book. There is no public
- 6:55ledger. There is no crowd. So who is on the other
- 6:59side of my trade? Dealers, these are large financial
- 7:02institutions, typically the major banks, who
- 7:04stand ready to buy from you or sell to you directly
- 7:08out of their own private inventory. Just like
- 7:10the owner of the used car lot. Exactly like the
- 7:13car lot owner. They are not matching your buy
- 7:16order with another retail investor's sell order.
- 7:20They are taking the opposite side of your trade
- 7:22themselves. Using their own capital. Using their
- 7:25own capital, yes. And because they are using
- 7:27their own capital, They are taking on that inventory
- 7:30risk we talked about earlier. A very severe risk,
- 7:33honestly. They might buy a massive block of corporate
- 7:35bonds from you today, but what if inflation data
- 7:38comes out tomorrow, interest rates spike, and
- 7:41the value of those bonds plummets? Then they're
- 7:43stuck. They are stuck holding an asset that is
- 7:46losing value, and they might be unable to find
- 7:49anyone to take it off their hands. Wow. Because
- 7:51they are absorbing that heavy risk, they require
- 7:54compensation. Here's where it gets really interesting.
- 7:58How exactly are they taking their compensation?
- 8:00Because when I log into my brokerage account
- 8:02and buy a bond, I don't see a massive invoice
- 8:05for dealer risk services. No, you don't. You
- 8:08don't see it because it's baked directly into
- 8:10the price. OK. Let's break down the mechanics
- 8:12of the bid ask spread. This is the core engine
- 8:15of the dealer market. I'm listening. A dealer
- 8:17always quotes two prices. The bid is the price
- 8:21the dealer is willing to pay you if you want
- 8:23to sell your bond to them. And the ask. The ask,
- 8:26sometimes called the offer, is the higher price
- 8:29they will charge you if you want to buy that
- 8:31bond from them. The mathematical gap between
- 8:33those two numbers is the spread. Let's run the
- 8:37exact numbers from our source material so we
- 8:39can see what this looks like in practice. Yeah.
- 8:41Because I think this is crucial. Definitely.
- 8:43Imagine a dealer. is quoting a specific corporate
- 8:47bond. They post a bid of 98, and they post an
- 8:51ask of 98 .5. Now, follow the sequence of events
- 8:56here. You decide to buy a $10 ,000 position in
- 8:59that bond. You pay the dealer's asking price
- 9:02of 98 .5. Right. The transaction goes through.
- 9:05But the very next second before the market has
- 9:07moved at all, you realize you made a mistake.
- 9:10You need that cash back. So I decided to sell
- 9:12the bond instantly back to the exact same dealer.
- 9:15But they won't pay you 98 .5. Right. They will
- 9:18only pay you their bid price, which is 98. Ah.
- 9:22So I bought it 98 .5, and I instantly sold back
- 9:25at 98. I've just lost half a point. Exactly.
- 9:28You lost half a point. And on a $10 ,000 position,
- 9:32that means the simple act of buying and instantly
- 9:34selling back costs you $50 immediately. Wait.
- 9:37I need to push back on this. $50. Yes. They just
- 9:42pocketed my $50 for doing absolutely nothing
- 9:45but acting as a toll booth. I mean, that sounds
- 9:49like a legally sanctioned scam. It can certainly
- 9:52feel that way. How is that fair to the retail
- 9:54investor? Especially when my brokerage statement
- 9:57probably says my trading commission was zero
- 9:59dollars. It feels like a hidden penalty, I agree.
- 10:01Yeah. But it is not a scam. That $50 is essentially
- 10:04an insurance premium you are paying to the dealer
- 10:06for providing liquidity. An insurance premium.
- 10:09Yeah. You have to remember, the dealer did not
- 10:12know you were going to sell it right back to
- 10:13them. When they sold it to you at 98 .5, they
- 10:16took it out of their inventory. When they bought
- 10:18it back at 98, they put it back onto their balance
- 10:20sheet, reassuming all the risk that the bond
- 10:23might drop to 95. tomorrow. Right they're holding
- 10:26the bag again. Exactly. The spread is the required
- 10:30cost of forcing a massive financial institution
- 10:34to trade with you on your schedule rather than
- 10:36waiting for a natural buyer to show up. Okay
- 10:39that makes sense logically but $50 is still a
- 10:42steep hidden fee. Auction markets have spreads
- 10:44too don't they? They do yes. How do they compare?
- 10:47Well they do have spreads but because of the
- 10:49massive crowd they are microscopic. How microscopic.
- 10:53If you trade a highly liquid Canadian bank stock
- 10:57on the TSX, the spread might just be one or two
- 11:00cents. Wow. So if you buy $8 ,000 worth of that
- 11:04stock, the spread might cost you a grand total
- 11:06of $2. $2 versus $50. That is a staggering difference.
- 11:10It really is. The spread is the ultimate measure
- 11:13of liquidity. A narrow spread, those two cents
- 11:16on the bank stock, tells you that there is heavy
- 11:19competition, a massive crowd, and almost zero
- 11:22risk for anyone taking the other side of the
- 11:24trade. A widespread. A widespread, like that
- 11:27big gap on a corporate bond, is the market's
- 11:29way of telling you that you are entirely alone.
- 11:33There is no crowd. The dealer is the only game
- 11:37in town, and they are charging you a premium
- 11:39for their solitary service. OK, this raises a
- 11:41massive structural question for me. What's that?
- 11:44If auction markets are so much cheaper for the
- 11:46investor and the spreads are so tiny, why not
- 11:49just force bonds onto the TSX? Why let dealers
- 11:53take that cut at all? Why do bonds have to live
- 11:55in the dark? The answer is something called the
- 11:57variety problem. The variety problem. Let's explore
- 12:00that. Let's picture a single major Canadian telecom
- 12:03company. That company typically issues only one
- 12:06single class of common stock. It is one uniform
- 12:10asset. Right. Millions of shares exist, but they're
- 12:13all identical. So it is very easy to gather a
- 12:16massive crowd around that one single item. Exactly.
- 12:19Everyone who wants to invest in the company's
- 12:21equity is trading the exact same ticker symbol.
- 12:24But that exact same telecom company might have
- 12:2815 or 20 different bonds outstanding at the exact
- 12:31same time. Wait, really? 20 different bonds for
- 12:34one company? Yes. Because they borrow money at
- 12:37different times for different projects. I hope
- 12:39that makes sense. They might have a bond issued
- 12:41in 2018 that matures in 2028, paying 4%. They
- 12:45might have another bond issued in 2020. that
- 12:47matures in 2035 paying 5%. And those are completely
- 12:51separate. They are entirely distinct legal contracts.
- 12:54Now take those 20 bonds and multiply them by
- 12:57every single corporate and government borrower
- 13:00in the entire country. You're talking about tens
- 13:02of thousands of completely different products.
- 13:05Exactly. The bond market isn't a single highway.
- 13:08It is a sprawling map of thousands of tiny dirt
- 13:11roads. Oh, I love that analogy. Because there
- 13:13is so much variety, most of these specific bonds
- 13:16rarely trade. You might go an entire month without
- 13:19a single person in the country wanting to buy
- 13:21the exact 20, 35, 5 % corporate bond that you
- 13:25suddenly need to sell on a Tuesday morning. Wow.
- 13:28So this isn't a sinister plot by dealers to hide
- 13:31fees, just that there aren't enough people trading
- 13:34the exact same bond to form a crowd. If we connect
- 13:36this to the bigger picture, the dealer isn't
- 13:39extracting a widespread because the market is
- 13:41maliciously designed. The spread is simply the
- 13:44required cost of having someone, anyone willing
- 13:46to answer the phone when the public square is
- 13:48empty. That is deeply sobering. Are retail investors
- 13:52just stuck paying these massive hidden fees if
- 13:54they want to hold bonds? Not necessarily. Our
- 13:56source material notes a very common workaround.
- 13:59Many retail investors choose to bypass the individual
- 14:02dealer market entirely by purchasing bond ETFs
- 14:05exchange traded funds. How does an ETF solve
- 14:08the variety problem? An ETF pools hundreds of
- 14:11millions of dollars from thousands of everyday
- 14:13retail investors. The fund managers take that
- 14:17massive pool of capital and buy the bonds in
- 14:19institutional sizes because they are trading
- 14:22in blocks of 50 or 100 million dollars. The dealers
- 14:26give them razor -thin highly competitive institutional
- 14:29strides. And then the retail investor just buys
- 14:32the ETF. Exactly. They buy the ETF on the stock
- 14:35exchange enjoying the transparency of the auction
- 14:38market. But there is always a catch, right? Of
- 14:41course there is. The trade -off is that while
- 14:43you avoid the wide dealer spread, you are now
- 14:46paying a transparent ongoing management fee to
- 14:49the company that runs the ETF. So you trade an
- 14:52invisible one -time execution fee for a visible
- 14:56recurring management fee. Precisely. For most
- 14:58retail investors, the transparency is worth the
- 15:01trade -off. That makes perfect sense. So we've
- 15:03established the difference between the transparent
- 15:05auction and the opaque dealer market. Right.
- 15:08I know our sources mentioned that real markets
- 15:10are actually complex hybrids, like the TSX uses
- 15:13designated market makers to provide a backstop.
- 15:16just in case the crowd ever vanishes from a stock.
- 15:18Yes, that's a great point. And bond transparency
- 15:21is slowly getting better with post -trade reporting.
- 15:24But I want to move away from the theory and get
- 15:26into the defense. The practical side. Yeah. How
- 15:29does an investor protect themselves from these
- 15:31hidden fees when they are forced to trade in
- 15:33a thin market? We defend ourselves with order
- 15:36types. This is the most practical tool a retail
- 15:38investor has, and Jane emphasizes it strongly
- 15:41in our source material. We need to contrast the
- 15:44market order with the limit order. Let's start
- 15:47with the market order. It sounds completely standard.
- 15:49It is standard. A market order is an instruction
- 15:51you give your broker that simply says, fill my
- 15:54order right now, immediately, at whatever the
- 15:56best available price happens to be. Just get
- 15:59it done. Right. In a highly liquid market like
- 16:01buying shares of a massive national bank, a market
- 16:04order is totally fine. The spread is two cents.
- 16:07The crowd is enormous. You get exactly the price
- 16:10you see on your screen. But what if I use a market
- 16:12order in a thinly traded market? What if I am
- 16:15trying to buy a small of cap stock on a junior
- 16:17exchange where there's almost no crowd. That
- 16:20is where a market order becomes incredibly dangerous.
- 16:24How so? To understand why, you have to picture
- 16:26the order book as a ladder. OK, a ladder. Let's
- 16:29say you want to buy 1 ,000 shares of a small
- 16:32mining company. You look at your screen, and
- 16:35the quoted price is $4. So you hit buy with a
- 16:40market order. Assuming I'm going to pay $4 ,000.
- 16:43Right. But because the market is thin, the first
- 16:46rung of the ladder only has 100 shares available
- 16:49at $4. OK. Your market order buys those 100 shares
- 16:53instantly, but you still need 900 more. Uh -oh.
- 16:58Because it is a market order, the computer is
- 17:01programmed to blindly climb the ladder to find
- 17:04the next seller. And where is the next seller?
- 17:06The next seller might not be sitting until $4
- 17:09.50. Wow. The computer buys their shares, then
- 17:13it climbs again. The next seller is at $5, it
- 17:16buys those. So it just keeps going. By the time
- 17:19your order is completely filled, you might have
- 17:21paid an average of $4 .75 for a stock you thought
- 17:24cost $4. That's terrible. The computer just reached
- 17:28higher and higher up an empty order book, pulling
- 17:31money out of your account at every step. That
- 17:33is literally handing the exchange a blank check.
- 17:35You are prioritizing the speed of the transaction
- 17:39over the cost of the transaction. That's exactly
- 17:41what you are doing. You are giving up all control
- 17:43over the final price just to ensure the trade
- 17:46happens right this second. Which is bad. In a
- 17:49market with widespread, that is financial suicide.
- 17:52Which brings us to our ultimate defense mechanism,
- 17:55the limit order. How does that change the dynamic?
- 17:58A limit order takes your control back from the
- 18:01computer. It is a firm non -negotiable instruction
- 18:04that says, fill my order at this exact price
- 18:07or do not fill me at all. So if I am looking
- 18:10at that same small mining sock and I place a
- 18:13limit order to buy 1 ,000 shares at $4 .10, what
- 18:17happens? The computer will buy whatever shares
- 18:19are available up to $4 .10, and then it stops.
- 18:22It just stops. It will absolutely not climb the
- 18:25ladder to $4 .11. It will not touch the shares
- 18:29sitting at $4 .50. It hits your ceiling, and
- 18:32it halts. But what if I only get 200 shares at
- 18:35my price, and the rest of my order just sits
- 18:37there? What if the market moves away and the
- 18:39trade never finishes? Then the trade never finishes.
- 18:42The order sits there unfilled. I mean, that feels
- 18:45like a failure. It feels like a failure, but
- 18:47it is actually a massive victory. Really? Yes.
- 18:51An unfilled limit order is an outcome you specifically
- 18:54deliberately chose. Right, because I set the
- 18:57boundary. You drew a boundary to protect yourself
- 18:59from a punishing spread. You can always evaluate
- 19:02the situation tomorrow and decide to raise your
- 19:04limit order if you really want the stock. That's
- 19:06true. But you can never ever unbuy a stock that
- 19:10you accidentally paid five dollars for because
- 19:12a market order ran away from you. Wow. The limit
- 19:15order is your shield against the dark. So what
- 19:17does this all mean? Let's synthesize what we've
- 19:19unpacked today. We started by looking at the
- 19:22structural difference between the open crowdsourced
- 19:26auction prices of the stock exchange, and the
- 19:29completely opaque inventory -driven quotes of
- 19:32the dealer bond market. We uncovered the mechanics
- 19:34of the bid ask spread. Right. We learned that
- 19:37the gap between the buying price and the selling
- 19:40price is not a scam, but a mathematically certain
- 19:43fee charged by dealers for taking on the terrifying
- 19:47risk of holding inventory in a lonely market.
- 19:50And finally, we armed ourselves with the limit
- 19:52order. the ability to physically cap the amount
- 19:55of money a thin market can pull from your account.
- 19:58A vital tool. It really is. This matters directly
- 20:01to you listening right now. The next time you
- 20:04log into your brokerage app and see a big flashy
- 20:06advertisement for zero commission trades, you
- 20:09don't need to wonder how the brokerage is keeping
- 20:11the lights on. No, you don't. You know exactly
- 20:13where to look to find the actual cost of your
- 20:15transaction. You look at the spread. You step
- 20:17past the marketing and you look at the spread.
- 20:19Exactly. And as we close today's deep dive, I
- 20:22want to leave you with a final thought to mull
- 20:24over. A scenario that pushes just a bit beyond
- 20:27our source material. I'd love to hear it. We
- 20:30have firmly established that the bid ask spread
- 20:32is essentially the price a dealer charges for
- 20:35taking on the risk of holding inventory. Right.
- 20:38It's the cost of providing liquidity when things
- 20:40are quiet. They charge a premium to be the buyer
- 20:42of last resort. Exactly. So what happens to that
- 20:46opaque dealer driven market during a massive
- 20:49systemic financial panic? Like 2008. Imagine
- 20:53a scenario exactly like 2008. Absolutely everyone
- 20:56is terrified. Everyone is trying to sell their
- 20:58bonds for cash. And absolutely no dealer wants
- 21:01to take on the risk of holding an asset that
- 21:03might be worthless tomorrow. Oh, wow. Does the
- 21:05dealer simply widen the spread out to infinity
- 21:08to protect themselves? Or does the entire invisible
- 21:11system just freeze completely, leaving investors
- 21:13trapped in the dark? That's a terrifying thought.
- 21:17We started today by talking about stepping onto
- 21:19that poorly lit used car lot. It is comforting
- 21:22to know the dealer is always there. waiting to
- 21:25buy your car, even if they give you a bad price.
- 21:28Yes. But it is quite another thing to wonder
- 21:30what happens when a hurricane hits. You pull
- 21:33it to that lot desperately needing to sell, and
- 21:36you find that the dealer has simply locked the
- 21:38gates and abandoned the property. It is definitely
- 21:41something to consider the next time the market
- 21:42starts to tremble. Thank you so much for joining
- 21:44us on this deep dive. Take your time, process
- 21:47what you've learned about the hidden machinery
- 21:49of your money, and we will be here when you are
- 21:52ready to look beneath the surface again. goodbye
- 21:54for now farewell and thank you for listening