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136: The Return of Jax Taylor - Vanderpump Rules: Peaks and Valleys (S11 E8) · Reality TV Cringe

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and thank you, okay, Vandr pump Rules. We do have a little
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bit of gossip, Yeah, just a teeny bit. So I guess the
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reunion yeah was like last weekend. Yeah, and apparently something happened at the
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end of the reunion that was drama delicious and a little bit crazy. Yeah,
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specifically between Ariana and Laala. Apologically, Ariana goes off on Laala like
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so much so that it ends their friendship, is what everybody's saying. Yes,
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I'm like please. I think it was Babo Babe who said that Arianna
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eviscerates Laala, and you know, we like a nice word, we like
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a nice, fancy word. So she evisceerates Laala and their friendship is over.
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Now, Laala did speak out about this, and she said, only
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one of those things is true. Oh not that sheviscerated me and our relationship
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is over, but just one of those things. And so I think she's
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implying that nobody eviscerated me, bitch, but that friendship is over. Interesting.
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I hope that the rest of the reunion is said like everybody's saying,
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like, it's gonna be garbage until the very end. As usual, it's
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gonna be like a three part reunion like party. Sometimes they'll do a four
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part yeah, like ninety day fiance My god, the whole month of bullshit,
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Oh my god, which we forgot to recap. Ninety d Fiance is
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tellable. That's on you. I mean you too. I was built.
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I wasn't built for this ninety day fiance tail all world. I mean me
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either. I told you straight up I'm not into it. I watched like
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the last one and it was horrible, Garb, absolutely terrible. Yeah.
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My thoughts on YouTube recapped it, So just go watch hers. Yeah my
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thoughts, yeah, Queen, Yeah yeah, but we don't have to do
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it. I think everybody's tired of it. I'm over moving on. We're
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in VPR now, now, we're in Seeking Sister Wife. Now, we're
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in the Valley. Yeah, we don't need to go backwards. No,
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we don't Beatrice. Al Right, So that's what we know about VPR Reunion.
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Hopefully we're going to get some drama. Yeah, please, uh and
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let's get into this episode. Take it away, all right. We start
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this episode with Sandoval again planning some stupid get together with his weird NPC friends
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that aren't actually his friends. He's doing some singles pool party or whatever at
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the house. Like the singles pool part is a lonely ass, broke ass
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o ass party in the pool. It's so cringe. It's so funny to
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watch like extroverted people like this, especially Sandoval, who's a narc, who
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like so desperately need social connection and interaction with people that they'll do it with
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literally anybody. Yeah, very very weird bottom of the barrel people just to
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get like they're fixed. Like I'm the complete opposite. I'm such an introvert.
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Let me alone right now, don't fucking talk to me. Let me
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be at my home, Like I don't better by myself and I want to
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see people. I don't want to be a people oh people, And most
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people don't hold like a good conversation. So I'm just like, why why
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do you want to make small talk with people who like literally don't care.
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They're just there for the clout, right, It's so obvious. But anyway,
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acting like they don't know who your roommate is, yeah, or that
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they don't know who you are. Oh by the way, like this is
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my roommate's house with me like it's Ariano Mattic cringe cringeu. And meanwhile,
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arian is getting ready to leave the house because she's like, I'm not about
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to be here with this weird cringey broke down forty year old singles party with
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this loser Tom Sandival. She's facetiming Katie who Katie is about to go to
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lunch with La La right and try and you know men things from their fight
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last episode right. So Ariana leaves Sedeval does his party. We'll get to
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it. Katie goes to have lunch with La La, Yes, which was
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kind of interesting because I like the way that Katie and La La kind of
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talk sometimes, Like they're very direct people, and they may not always be
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right. Obviously, they may be cunty. Sometimes they may be totally shitty,
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to be sure, but I do like and appreciate that direct like kind
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of honesty, like as opposed to somebody like Sheena, who just likes to
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talk shit about everybody and not actually be honest about how she feels about everything,
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and then she takes everything personal right and she wants other people to fight
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her battles. Yes, My primary thought about this was that Katie did not
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need to apologize to Lala for anything agreed. I mean, I think she
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was very gracious talking about giving somebody grace. I think she was very gracious
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to Lala, who is seeming to come to terms in her life with the
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reality that she needs to change the way she presents. She says she needs
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to soften, which basically means she needs to stop screaming and assaulting people verbally,
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which means soften in order to not be on the war path, like
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Katie, did you notice that she said that, though she's like, I'm
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trying to I'm trying to be a soft, kinder person, But here's Katie
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on her war path, being angry, being mean, and I don't want
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to be that way, Like, okay, even when trying to describe how
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you want to evolve and get better, you're throwing somebody under the bus because
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ye, you're inherently toxic yep. And then she requests Katie to be softer
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with her, like as if Katie was being harsh, and like, I
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mean, she wasn't really. I mean, she came off kind of strong.
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She was matching her energy. Lala walked into the astrology party hot on
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one. Yeah, she was on one yep. And Katie's like, calm
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the fuck down. Yeah, and if you don't, I'm gonna make you
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right. Yeah. Laala's not used to that. No, she's not,
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which is very interesting to see because, like I've said throughout these recaps,
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like I like Laala. I think she's very pretty. I like the way
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that she kind of handless. But at the same time, I'm like,
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last couple episodes, you're kind of going crazy chick, Like, calm down
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a little bit, so I understand what you were saying when you were recapping
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like the all the prior seasons. Lala has a Lala's got something wrong with
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her sometimes. I'm I mean, we're not here to diagnose anybody, but
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let me do it anyway now. Like she's just got like her personality is
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it can get there's swings going on. Yeah, there's mood swings that are
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happening. Yeah, And she doesn't know how to filter herself so that she
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can have a productive conversation and tell people how she's actually feeling without becoming angry.
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Yeah, and like shutting down the entire thing, which is what I
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think Katie was trying to combat. She's like, don't come so hard for
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Ariana, Like it's not that deep, right, We're here to fucking learn
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about our rising signs and our moon signs. What the fuck? Yeah,
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calm down a little bit, take a chill pill. Did you notice Lalla
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said something like I don't want us to ever get to the point where we
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say something we can't recover from, Yes, which I actually kind of related
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to because I'm the kind of person like I'm very reactive I've got that airy's
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mood, which you're telling me, bitch, don't make me catch, don't
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make me oh wow. No. But I mean, I'm the kind of
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person that's very reactive, and I have I've learned with age that I have
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to like think about how I feel about things before I say anything, because
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I can say some fucked up shit. I could be very mean. So
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I kind of related to these girls because they both were like, yeah,
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let's try to not pop off on each other because we don't want to say
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anything that would literally ruin her friendship, right, So I like that they
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kind of make up, they hug, they apologize, it's whatever. I
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liked. Also that Katie acknowledged that that's her problem area too, is tone
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and delivery. Tone and delivery is where I need to work. So she
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seems to understand that about herself. Because trust me when I tell you,
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I mean, I know that Katie is in her glory era right now,
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but there were seasons upon seasons where she was absolutely a twat. Oh I
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believe it. She was twat. Yeah, and she was fucking hard to
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talk to, and she was a terrible person but also a good person,
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nuanced. There's sides to everybody. So I like to see Katie acknowledging that
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she's got this thing that she needs to work on and that she's doing that
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work. Yeah, I do like. And this is the kind of energy
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that we would like to see from fucking Sandoval, even though he's doing all
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of his journaling. I'm like, I have yet to see you actually admit
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your faults. Dude. Mm I don't think he's emitted shit. I think
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he's said the words, not on the lem me qualify this. So let
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me qualify this. I know he said the words, they're on camera.
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I'm sorry. I shouldn't have done that. That was wrong. I mean
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he said the words, but there's something different about when he says it than
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somebody like, for example, Katie, who you can tell she's doing the
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work, the introspection to figure herself out. Like he's just saying the words,
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yep, so he can get a result. Katie's like, I'm saying
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the words and doing the work so I can have a better life and be
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at peace. Right, That's not what Sandoval wants. Nope. But even
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though he's rural, the reason he's spinning out in this episode and others is
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because he thinks he's made amends. Yeah, he thinks I've said sorry,
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what the fuck is the problem? Yeah, not gonna keep groveling in front
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of you guys. He was supposed to do. No, no, not
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how you do it? Nope, not at all. Let's get to Tom
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at his stupid party, his lame ask party. I am cringey oh Rig
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Like it's like a total pool party. Schwartz shows up for like five minutes
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and already feels like uncomfortable about it because he realizes the kind of party it
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is. It's a bunch of single people at Sandoval single and he's trying to
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get back out there like, yeah, fucking forty year old creep. Oh,
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I'm like, stop, do you have no game whatsoever? You're a
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loser. Everybody knows that you're a chronic serial cheater. Nobody wants to be
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with you, except if they're chasing clout and want to be on television.
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And so you have your perpetual goblins like Billy Lee and that Kyle guy,
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yeah, and like that other Jason guy or whatever his names. Like.
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The people who want to be on camera and who want to make their way
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onto the show are the ones that are injecting themselves into these scenes, and
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Tom's okay with it because he's got nobody else. Yeah, he has nobody
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at all. And then these two blonde chicks come up Randoms and like,
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why nobody cares? I don't care about them. Nobody cares about them.
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The only reason why they're interesting is because they get in the pool and they
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start talking with Sandoval, and Sandoval's trying to flirt. I guess is that
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what that was? I mean, he's kind of alluding to it. He's
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like, I haven't flirted with anybody in you know, so long, almost
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ten years. I'm like, what were you doing with Rachel? Yeah,
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you were flirting? And what about the other chicks that you bang? Right,
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you were flirting? Like, shut the fuck up, dude. You're
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not like some dude that's been in this long term relationship this whole time,
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but you don't know how to date, you do? You've been fucking people
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this whole tiar time, So shut up. But he starts talking to these
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girls like a fucking weirdo. Yeah, he's like, yeah, Mike Ex's
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house does not have any awareness, like what a turbo old man like he
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thinks he's he thinks he's bringing it. Oh yeah, I think he's so
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fucking fly and so hot? Is it? Come in the pool with my
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Heineken one. I mean, this is all mine. You can have all
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of this. And I'm like, you are so a ringe. He is
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so people are laughing at you across the world and you could see it all
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these randos faces. These girls are like a comfortable. They're like, are
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you a predator? Like the answer is yes. Yeah. He's like sitting
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there trying to make jokes about the fact that he still lives with his ex.
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He's like, yeah, it's my you know, maybe my ex still
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live here, but you know, it's no big deal, just a nine
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year relationship that we got over. I cheated on her, like you probably
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know, Well he didn't say that. Well that would mean he's taking responsibility
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for his shit and everybody knows and those girls know, Yeah, why are
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you acting dumb? Yeah? Why are you acting like you don't know who
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this person is and why you're there? Like okay, yep, I hate
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this manufactured shit. I mean it's really crichy. But like in the after
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show, this was where it was kind of interesting. I actually watched the
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after show this week, we did pat myself on the back for doing my
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job, but no, while on the after show, they're watching all this
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back and Ariana comments on it and she's like, this whole scene is super
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disrespectful, Like he's using cups that were gifted to me when he's like drinking
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his drinks and stuff in the pool. He's talking bad about me with these
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jokes that he's making and it's just really fucked up that he's saying this.
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But this just proves its testament to the kind of piece of shit that Sandeville
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actually is. Like, oh man, this guy yeh is never gonna be
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able to come back up. I mean it's feeling like it's irredeemable. Yeah,
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like Katie says, it's giving audacity and that's for sure, but it's
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like can he come back from this? And like, I'm just gonna admit
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I started this season saying there are things that I like about Tom Sandoval.
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Again, I've been watching from the very beginning. He has likable traits everybody
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does like, and there was a part of me that's like rooting for him
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to do the right thing in the right way and like bring it back together.
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I write there was a part of me that felt that way. That
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is dead And God, I honestly I can't. He's so superficial and so
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shallow and so unwilling. And I say this a lot, and I'm sorry
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if I'm a broken record, but like to sit in the energy of the
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harm that he's done to other people and to himself, Like he is skating
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around that, yep, anything not to touch that, yep, and not
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to feel that and own Yeah, so he's saying he's owning all this shit,
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but like, no, you're not. You're just waiting for people to
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get over it, and you're surrounded by vapid assholes like Shina, who is
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also waiting to get over it. Yes, which is very interesting, Like
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we'll get to that later when she talks about her friendship with Sandoval with Arianna,
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But like, yeah, it's super bizarre to watch, Like he's a
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classic narcissist. Even I was watching it with your daughter last night. She's
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like, what the heck, dude, this guy is diluded, Like he
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really thinks he's doing the work with his pages and pages of journaling. I'm
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like, what are you writing in there? Well, he's showing it to
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the camera. Didn't you read it? Well, I didn't. That just
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calls into question the authenticity of his journaling, Like he's willing to show his
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sacred secret thoughts to the world. Yeah, it's all performative, it is.
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There's nothing there that's real. Nope, that's wild to me. Yeahybe
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he's scared to show his real stelf because he's just been like through a very
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traumatic scandaal event, which you could kind of understand, but like, the
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way he's dealing with it is really bad. It is very bad, very
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unhealthy. So after the party or whatever, I think it's like the next
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day or something, he's like working out and he's talking about his assistant Anne.
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And the only reason why I bring this up is because he talks about
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the other duties that Anne is responsible for, which is housekeeping, right,
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and he's like, yeah, she just picks up my mess every now and
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then when I can't get to it. And then the producers show all these
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scenes of like how much ash goblin he is. It's a fucking sty and
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he's making Anne do this. We talked about this last episode about like whether
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or not Anne was maybe turning her opinion or changing her opinion about Santoval maybe
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coming over to Ariana. This would be the reason. Yes, if I
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was his assistant, I'm like having to manage your whole life and I have
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to do housekeeping. Oh go fuck yourself absolutely seriously, Team Anne, Yes,
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save Anne Ann please. And then we have Sena coming over to talk
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with Arianna about Dancing with the Stars. Yeah yeah again yeah, And this
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is where Sena is finally trying to be honest with Ariana about how she feels
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and try to clear the air because before this, Shina was talking to Lisa
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vanderpub and then Lisa Vanderpup was talking to Ariana, so it was like just
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this whole game of telephone. Just go to Ariana and tell her how you
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feel? Is that just crazy? I mean, can't you do that?
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But again, this whole scene is cringe as fuck because I don't know why
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Sena cares so much about Dancing with the Stars. Because she's a n ar,
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because she's a loser, because she doesn't have anything else. Oh,
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there's nothing like of a true meaning inside of herself that motivates her. It's
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all outward, it's it's all fucking celebrity, it's all fame. Mam Ma.
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It is embarrassing. It is giving so much cringe. I'm like,
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girl, stop talking about Dancing with the Stars. And then on the fucking
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after show they talk about it again, and then Santa Bal brings it up.
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Tom, Yeah, I actually took ballroom dancing lessons because I too feel
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like I should be on Dancing with the Star, which is totally giving inserting
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himself into Ariana's cocktail books or twenty seventeen or whatever that was, Like he
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also wants to chase the fame. It's crazy. I mean this again,
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I have to say to you, like, do they not have this filter
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where they're able to see what they're thinking and then stop themselves before they say
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words that are so cringe like that? No, Like you can feel that
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that's okay, everybody does, but like to say that out loud on camera
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like three times, Shena and then now Tom's sound of fall, Like,
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Tom, get a grip, I know, do you hear what you're saying?
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You guys are a bunch of washed up losers. I'm sorry, I'm
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so fucking grich. Like every time I hear them talk about Dancing with the
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Stars, I just think about the fact that I haven't had cable in like
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eight years and I don't even remember the last time I watched Dancing with the
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Stars. Apparently it's the thing. I mean, it used to be very
18:53
popular, but I'm like, it's still going on. Who the fuck watches
18:56
that? And no offense to any of y'all that actually watching and love the
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show. That's great, Maybe it's awesome, maybe it's super popular, but
19:03
I just can't imagine a world where it's like so famous and so amazing that
19:07
these people want to be on it because they think they'll get far. I'm
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like, most of the time, when these dalist F list celebrities get on
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Dancing with the Stars, they'll make it like two rounds and then they're irrelevant
19:21
again, right, It's like, what's the point being. It's like the
19:25
masked singer, Yeah, have you seen that? Where they dress up as
19:29
rando things and then they sing. I mean, it feels very congratulatory and
19:33
masturbratory to the celebrity class, or to the D list celebrity class, like
19:37
something that they do amongst themselves to succeed in their own fucking peerage or their
19:42
peer group. It's really cringe. I don't get it. But I mean,
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if people like the show, that's fine, that's great. But Shina,
19:48
get over it. Oh my god from primary gripe as she says,
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yeah this episode, yeah, is that Arianna didn't tell her directly that she
19:56
got it. And Ariana's like, there's something called an NDA and like there's
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a binding legal agreement where I'm not supposed to say it. And we see
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her in the after show saying there were rumors that were going around and people
20:07
were already talking about it, and I almost lost my spot on Dancing with
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the Stars, so yeah, I couldn't just tell people right By the time
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Dan tells Shena when Shehina goes to pick him up at the airport, it's
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because it's already been out and she just hasn't heard it yet. So Shina
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feels entitled to priority in Ariana's life and IgA, what are you giving in
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return betrayal because you're hanging out with Tom Sandival. Yes, And she brings
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it up in this conversation again after fucking Dancing with the Stars. She's like,
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well, you know what if in several years I decided to be friends
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with Sandoval because I feel like he's doing the real work with all of his
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journaling, and he's actually healing and changing as a person. And Ariana just
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gives her kind of a look and she's like, that's cool, like whatever.
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But in her talking head, she says, I feel like Shida's just
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saying all this stuff because it's inevitable that she wants to be best. She
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soft launching her new relationship with Tom Sandoval, and actually what Arianna says to
21:03
her on the couch is something like, well, I mean, but I'm
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worried for you because he's a terrible person. Like you're in danger, girl,
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Yeah, be careful with the people that you're hanging around with, for
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fucking cloud, right, So that's what I would think if you came to
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me in several years or several months or several weeks, which is what Sina's
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going to do. And no matter how many times you tell Sheena that Sandoval's
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a piece of shit, she's not gonna listen. And we see that on
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the preview from last week, like there's gonna be some weird black tie event
21:33
party or whatever. And Sina has another conversation with Sandoval, being like,
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do you even care about me? The answer is no. Yeah, it's
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always been no, duh, stupid bitch. And then we get some weird
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scene after this with Schwartz and Joe. Again, I don't care. I
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can't tell you how deeply I don't care. I don't know why she's on
21:53
this show so much. What's happening? Are the producers desperate for content?
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I'm desperate for a storyline for Schwartz, Like what are we doing? I
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have to tell you. I saw Joe post on her Instagram, which she
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only has like three thousand followers. We have more followers than her because we're
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famous, but imperatively famous. She posted like a montage video of all these
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videos and pictures of her and Schwartz, with this long, unhinged paragraph of
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like how much she loved him and how she may not be the right girl
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for him, but he deserves like the world, and he's such a good
22:32
person and she he just gets her and they just have like such a good
22:36
relationship and all this stuff, And all the comics are like, girl,
22:37
you're desperate for this dude who like literally does not care about you. You're
22:41
just a pityfuck to him, Like all the comics are just Roastinger. Well,
22:45
she shouldn't be roasted. I don't think. I mean, well,
22:48
there are some things in her character that can be called into question, like
22:52
how she just dumped Katie or dumped Kristin. Yes, Kristen talks about that
22:56
in the after show. She was best friends with Kristin, Like as soon
22:59
as she got with Tom, she ghosted her friendships. But at the same
23:03
time, there's just something and I'm just gonna say it might be inappropriate.
23:06
Don't come at me, bro, but there's something about her that reads a
23:07
little unstable, and definitely, if it's not unstable, there's something going on
23:11
in the internal world where she doesn't really have a whole lot of self worth,
23:15
and she seeks validations through connections with other people, like we see her
23:18
with Ali in the weirdest fucking scene. I'm like, why are we doing
23:22
this? Why are we doing this? But there's a lot going on inside
23:26
of her, and I feel bad for her because she doesn't know any better
23:30
than not to try and be with a guy like Tom Schwartz. Tom Schwartz
23:36
is never gonna pick you. He's already picked the twenty two year old at
23:38
forty one years old, himself a fucking perpetual failure is picking a twenty one
23:42
year old. You're never gonna be good enough, he's never gonna choose you,
23:45
and yet you continue to praise him on your Instagram and chase him.
23:48
And it's actually sad and you should want better for yourself than aw shucks Tom
23:53
Schwartz. And so again it's a nuanced document, but I actually feel bad
23:57
for her, and I feel like she's coming across really sad on VPR honestly
24:03
a little bit. And I feel bad for her because schworts constantly every scene
24:08
with her, he's like, yeah, she's just my best friend, Like
24:11
he does not want any kind of like connotation. Why do you think that.
24:18
I don't know, Like maybe he's a shame to be with her.
24:19
Maybe their sex is super weird, Like he just fucks her when he like
24:22
is horny. That's what I think. Like I think they have a really
24:26
fucked up friends with benefits type of scenario where she's like actually in love with
24:30
him. I mean she's like crashing and she's living in love with him at
24:33
his apartment. It's supers in love with him. I think that he is
24:38
vapid and he wants a supermodo. I think that she is not, although
24:42
she's definitely pretty, but she's just a regular shmegular girl who's in love with
24:48
him, and so he bangs her, he uses her. She's in love
24:51
with him. She doesn't know how to quit him. Yep, And as
24:52
soon as he gets a twenty two year old, which he did, or
24:55
twenty four year old, he digits her. Yeah, and she just pretends
24:59
like she's okay with Yeah, like where he's my friend. I want him
25:00
to be happy. What about you? Yeah? What about you? Girls?
25:03
Stop fucking hib it is giving infiltration, which Katie says in a later
25:07
after she's like, are you just trying to get into the friend group?
25:11
Yeah, it's never gonna happen. Well in like Side of Tom, she
25:15
references Katie in this scene too, on the paddle boat with shorts, like
25:18
Katie is jealous of hers, what she says, and I'm like, I
25:22
don't know if it's that, Like, I think Katie doesn't like her because
25:26
she does spend a lot of time with Schwartz, and maybe she does know
25:29
their weird, fucked up history and their past and stuff that Schwartz does fuck
25:33
her a lot, and so maybe that's why Katie doesn't like her, which
25:37
is understandable she was married to Schwartz. But I don't think it's out of
25:41
jealousy. I think she just thinks that there's something off with Joe. I
25:44
think Katie's a little hard on Joe, Like she actually like she's called her
25:48
a crackhead. Yeah, and arexic and that's not right. No, and
25:51
that's actually mean. And again that's indicative of the way that Katie fights.
25:55
Yeah. But at the same time, Katie is also telling Tom in a
25:57
later scene in this episode that she was actually in love with Tom when she
26:02
divorced him, Like, I loved him, I was in love with him,
26:04
but I made the choice not to fucking cheat on him because I was
26:07
unhappy, and I made the choice to divorce him. I walked away from
26:11
a relationship with a guy that I loved, so in such proximity to that,
26:15
like, within I don't know, three months, he's banging Joe.
26:18
Of course she has feelings around that. On Watch What Happens Live this last
26:22
Tuesday, Katie was on and she actually said, like, now after a
26:26
year or a year and a half or whatever it is, She's like,
26:30
yeah, they actually have a cool energy together. They're kind of quirky.
26:33
They seem like they're friends. I mean, maybe maybe they'll be great.
26:36
Yeah, so she seems over it because she was still in love with Schwartz
26:40
when that happens. Since that would make sense, her feelings are justifiable now
26:44
her calling her a crackhead probably not anorexic. Wrong, yeah, very wrong.
26:48
But yeah, we feel bad for Joe and then but also, Joe,
26:51
you're a little shady and you're moving weird in these streets. Well,
26:55
and stop fucking Schwartz. He's never going to pick you ever. Does his
26:57
dick work? Watch the movie? He's just not that into you. Can
27:00
you send a DM and tell us if his dick works, because I've been
27:03
under the impression his dick don't really work. One it's her, Joseph.
27:07
They're weird, weird, they're weird. I think he said in the after
27:12
show that he could or maybe it was in this show he said I could
27:15
marry her. Was it in this show? It was? It was in
27:18
this scene He's like, I feel like I could marry her and be happy
27:19
with her, but I won't because I want to be single. Like,
27:22
Okay, that's a weird thing. That is a very strange thing, and
27:26
it's almost like he wants to string her along. Maybe that's what it is.
27:29
Maybe he gets enjoyment out of that. There are guys that like to
27:30
do that, Oh believe me, I know. Yeah. And then after
27:34
that weird paddle boat scene, then everybody meets up at some bar or whatever.
27:38
And this was interesting because Arianna shows up in the same vicinity as Tom
27:44
Sandival. So Tom Sanival's vicinity, vicinity vicinity I know, Okay, I
27:51
just thought that's stupid. I look for opportunities to help you to be better.
27:53
Yeah, you want to call me out on my who whatever vicinity of
28:00
Tom Sandoval. I said it wrong because I'm stuffed up, okay, bitch.
28:06
Ariana shows up at the bar with Tom Sandival. Schwartz is there,
28:10
La La, Katie. Everybody's there, and it's kind of boring. The
28:15
only thing that's kind of interesting is that Sena goes to talk with Schwartz at
28:18
some point about Sandoval or whatever, and then Sandoval comes in conveniently, and
28:25
then Shena tries to talk to Sandoval about Rachel and Katie and Katie and tells
28:32
him that he needs to own up to his part and everything, and then
28:34
of course, Sandoval and true Sandoval fashion, gets all defensive immediately, and
28:40
Shina tries to, you know, call him out on it. She's like,
28:44
you need to stop letting your ego get in the way. And this
28:45
is where Sandoval throws a fit and leaves it's not my ego, it is
28:49
not my ego, and he's storming out. James is like, dude,
28:52
chill out. You have to like deal with these relationships, and he's like,
28:56
I don't have to grovel in front of these assholes anymore. I'm out.
29:00
And then we see his actual outfit. Yeah, and his blue linen
29:04
pants or something like what are you wearing, Tomsai, You're with your fucking
29:07
lightning earing. I'm like, okay, forty one year old. He so
29:12
has been midlife crisis, painted tona having ass I can't with him. Now
29:21
we have some weird scene with Brock and Sheena fighting about their nannies. I
29:25
don't care nobody, but I will say that he cares in all fairness,
29:29
because I will admit when I'm wrong, which is so rare, but I'll
29:32
admit it. I didn't hate Brock as much really in this scene. Yeah,
29:37
I felt like he seemed more reasonable trying to talk to Sheena about getting
29:45
somebody to help, and Sheena seemed a little bit more reactive. And I
29:48
can only imagine what it's like to be married to her. Their daughter is
29:52
adorable. And I didn't hate him all. I don't like him. I'm
29:56
just saying I don't hate him as much as I normally do. Oh,
29:59
that's interesting because he it kind of seemed like he was coming off hard on
30:03
Sheena about wanting a consistent schedule. Let's art. Sheena is like just kind
30:07
of brushing off his concerns of the time. So it's kind of like they
30:11
don't have the healthiest dynamic. They're gonna break up soon. I hope we
30:15
get to see it. So wait, let me ask you. So it
30:17
seems like his argument is that Shina's schedule is irregular, which means his schedule
30:23
is necessarily irregular because he's covering for her when she's not there. Yeah,
30:27
So that means if my schedule is irregular, I can't really do the businessmanny
30:32
stuff that I'm supposed to because I'm a businessman. It builds businesses. I've
30:34
got a clearer Yeah, whatever. Okay, is that what his gripe is?
30:38
Yeah, it seems like it. And I mean he has been bugging
30:41
her for wanting like a nanny and wanting something so they can date though and
30:45
be closer. But now what that tells me, or what it validates and
30:49
verifies for me, is that he don't work. He don't got a job.
30:53
It's all on Sheena's shoulders. It's based on her schedule or her podcasting,
30:57
her filming, all the things that she's got going on. And when
31:00
she has time to be home, then he can go out and work on
31:03
his app or his home fitness bullshit. Maybe we ain't doing shit. No,
31:08
he's not. Maybe he feels emasculated by that too, and he should
31:11
I mean, yeah he shouldn't. You should, no, but there are
31:15
plenty of I'm so fucking, so fucking mean, you should really calm me
31:18
out of my bullshit. That's okay. He can be a stay at home
31:22
dash, sure, she can be the primary bread winner. But I just
31:26
don't like how he has shamed her for like the difficulties that see him.
31:30
Yeah, I take it back, I'm sorry, I'll try not to do
31:34
that. He just said, you liked Brock and then now you're ti I
31:37
said I didn't hate him. Yeah that's different. I like him. You
31:40
said you liked him more of this episode. I said, I didn't hate
31:42
him as much. I roll the tapes anyway, moving on, let's apologize.
31:48
And then after that weird scene with Brock and Shetah, they were back
31:52
at Tom and ari on his house. Katie's there and Tom is working out
31:56
upstairs, you know, working on his gains like a loser on Oh my
32:04
god. So the only reason why this was interesting was because ultimately Sandoval talks
32:10
to Katie and apologize it well tries. He's saying the words, but he
32:15
doesn't mean it, but he's not feeling the words. Yeah, he doesn't
32:20
know what the charge and the words ought to be. Yes, he's performing.
32:23
Yes, he's a fucking puppet. It's all in act. YEP,
32:29
it's all in act. And the whole reason why he decides to go talk
32:32
to Katie's because there's been like this talk or whatever around that Sandoval feels like
32:37
he's being blamed for the demise of Schwartz and Katie's marriage, which is not
32:42
what's being said. Katie just talks about how he kind of had a hand
32:45
in it. He it wasn't the cause, obviously, but like the bar
32:49
was because Schwartz was focused way too much on the bar. And in the
32:53
after show, I thought, this is interesting because the guys are talking about
32:58
this and Schwartz actually does take accountability for that, Like we haven't seen that
33:02
on these episodes yet really, because he keeps talking about Katie and every intersticial
33:07
he's not really like taking any ownership for why their marriage broke up. But
33:10
on the after show he's like, yeah, like the bar was really the
33:14
main issue, Like I didn't focus any of my time on her, and
33:16
it really took a toll on our marriage and that's why it broke up.
33:20
So I thought that was interesting from Schwartz. Even though he's an Aweschucks loser,
33:23
Santaval Dick Sucker, he at least is tried it. Dirty dick conty
33:29
Dick Sucker. I mean, ye, dirty dick gobblin that dick. I'm
33:32
just saying. So it's kind of interesting. But anyway, Katie ends up
33:37
being in the same room as Sanda Fall She's on her phone, like not
33:42
paying attention to him at all. Got a stink resting bitch face, doesn't
33:45
she I mean, I love it though she's beautiful. I me too,
33:50
she looks so good. Yeah do it? Okay, you're not a good
33:54
friend. Not a good friend. Bangs and a little bob No, man,
33:59
I mean bang would look good on you, though, but you would
34:00
have to style them. Ye pain in the thing. Yeah. Anyway,
34:04
Anyway, Sandoval comes down and Standaval's like, even though I don't feel like
34:07
I'm in his talking head, He's like, even though I don't feel like
34:10
I'm at fault for their marriage ending, I'm still going to apologize because Sena
34:15
told him to at the Boscau told him. Because I care about Sena so
34:20
much, I'm going to apologize, or because he needs somebody else to give
34:23
him a map to redemption, because he couldn't come up with that shit himself,
34:27
so he's gonna take Sena's vapid advice. Katie didn't want to hear it.
34:30
No, I would know that. If I were him, I'd be
34:32
like, Katie doesn't give a shit yet what I have to say. So
34:37
he goes up to Katie. He's like, I just want to say I'm
34:38
sorry for like hurting you, and like I hope that we can be friends
34:43
eventually, and she's like, Okay, I'm I don't believe you at all
34:46
for a second. You're full of shit and you don't take any accountability at
34:51
all, and you're a piece of shit. And I don't really regard words
34:53
as change. Now regard actions has changed. So we're gonna to see some
34:58
action from you, yep, and take some accountability. He's like, oh,
35:00
you have been Like I've totally been taking accountability and I've been saying words
35:07
out of my mouth. People have heard them. Did you hear them?
35:09
And she's like, okay, I don't care. And then he's like,
35:13
why don't you just give me a little grace and she literally no, no,
35:17
no. So I love that. That was like so good, so
35:22
good, Chef's kiss perfect, queen shit real. I love it. And
35:27
I don't think he was expecting it, Like I think he thinks that he
35:29
can walk over people, especially the girls, because Sheena's proving that, like
35:32
Sheenah is very easily manipulated by Santabal La La surprisingly yep, all because he
35:39
says he's sober. That's the only reason why Lala thinks that he's jaggering,
35:44
because he's super now and he's journaling, so yeah, Katie doesn't take him
35:47
seriously at all. He's like, well fine, then like whatever, and
35:52
then stops off and breaks upstairs. But he said, you look pretty,
35:55
you look good. That's it. Yeah, that is it. She's like
35:59
thanks, bye, bye, bye bitch. And then later Santoval's journaling in
36:04
his room again and Schwartz comes over and he's like, oh, you're journaling,
36:07
man, and sand of All's like, yeah, it's like really good
36:09
for my mental health, like a journal every day. Looks see this is
36:13
April Fizz's before. I'm like, oh my god, it's just like a
36:16
homework assignment. It's terrible. It's really crazy. And then Santoval starts crying
36:22
again because he journals well, because they're looking at pictures of Rachel. Okay,
36:27
these pictures are very evocative. They take him back in time whatever,
36:30
a time when him and Rachel were making out and she was doing like shaving
36:35
cream on her bits and it was just like from Friday Night Lights. Wasn't
36:39
that what he said? Yeah, it's like fucking varsity blues, Varsity blues,
36:43
and it was just like a moment. It was so fucking strong.
36:45
It was a moment to change my life and I'm never, not ever gonna
36:50
get that back. No you're not. So he goes into the closet and
36:52
he starts to cry, oh the glacer and tears like we hear him a
37:00
little. I like, I don't believe I don't believe it. I mean,
37:04
it's good acting, but I don't believe it at all. It's not
37:07
good acting well. And Tom is just sitting in the fucking chair like,
37:09
you are right, man? Are we really doing right now? Are you
37:13
crying in the closet? Yeah, I think. Schwartz says something like you're
37:16
at the tail end of this, like it's gonna be okay. He's trying
37:20
to be a bro instead of I was like, no, I'm not.
37:22
Everybody's treating Peterson Scott Peterson. And Schwartz is like, you mean the guy
37:29
who murdered his wife, And Tom says allegedly, actually he was convicted and
37:36
so we can say it, yes, but does this to not think about
37:38
what he says, you're comparing yourself to Oj Simpson and George fucking Floyd and
37:44
now a literal murderer. You're getting closer Warmer, Yeah, Warmer. Psychopaths
37:52
not George Floyd. But yeah, oh my god, I'm just like,
37:54
this guy is absolutely wild and he's feeling destructive. Yeah, just really feeling
38:00
destructive, is putting on his fashion and his fucking clothes painted Neil, which
38:07
Jack ends up calling him out on. I was shocked when Jacks calls him
38:10
out, and I'm like, oh my god, Beatrice is gonna love that.
38:14
Oh this is the last scene. It's like all the guys go out
38:15
to dinner and Jack shows up. What's not the last scene because Ariana has
38:20
a party at her house where well, yeah, they play never have her,
38:22
but we learn about her having an orgy with John Mayer, not her.
38:27
I thought that was Sena. That's what I meant. Sorry, Sena.
38:30
Sheena had an orgy with Rock. She said it was She didn't have
38:32
an orgy with Brock. She said Brock, No, it was. It
38:35
was two thousand and eight. Oh, she was with John Mayer and she
38:38
says her body was a wonderland. And Brock said that he was in a
38:44
threesome with two guys. But then he goes on to elaborate in the after
38:46
show that it's like two girls, two guys, So it was like swingers
38:50
or something like that. Anyway, So there is a party, yeah,
38:52
happens at Ariana's house, and that was the most interesting thing that was divulged.
38:57
Yeah, I forgot about that. I didn't realize she was referenced St.
39:00
John Mayer. Yea, she said it to me. Less celebrity and
39:02
like, is he an a less even visa VI and Orgy she's chasing clout.
39:08
Yeah he was at the time. I mean yeah, but like I
39:12
wouldn't call him a I mean, I guess a celebrity. And he was,
39:15
like with Jessica Simpson, like he dated a lot of A list ladies.
39:20
He was known to be a lothario who had a good dick game.
39:22
Honey, that's true, and he could sing yeah, I mean, I
39:25
guess. I mean I like one of his outbids Jack Johnson, bullshit.
39:30
I'm just like, can I go to bed, going to bed? Judge?
39:32
Judge? Oh god? Okay. Well, then after the never have
39:37
I Ever dumb party yet arian his house, then all the guys go out
39:42
to dinner at some steakhouse again and it's Brock James, Sandval Schwartz and then
39:47
eventually Jack shows up, and this is when it gets actually interesting. Because
39:52
Jacks, who hasn't been on this show yet. I thought it was kind
39:55
of cool though, like that they're doing all these crossovers between this and the
39:59
Yea, Like I really do like that. I enjoy it. Jack shows
40:02
up and he's got kind of like a hot energy, not like hot like
40:07
ooh sexy, but like he's hot headed already, oh hot headed, like
40:10
yeah, high on coke. It was interesting to watch the cameras following him
40:14
into Tom Tom because like people were actually turning around and going, oh,
40:17
it's Jack Stall like god, and like looking at the cameras like it was
40:21
such a moment. And he's walking in and all his glory. I'm returning
40:24
from my fucking sexist and racist bullshit. You can't keep me down. He's
40:30
walking into the private room swagger with all these guys, truly looking coked up,
40:35
allegedlation sex, whole face red, his nose all red. I'm just
40:38
like, here we go. Yep. And I think Schwartz is like,
40:43
oh, maybe they could be friends. Him and Sandaval so, like,
40:45
have they had beef before Santoval and Jack, Yeah, well they fought through
40:49
the duration of vander Pumper, okay, but they used to be roommates in
40:52
Miami. I want to say, yeah, and they have known each other
40:57
for years and we're very very clear, like best friends, and so Sandobal,
41:04
that's your gay conspiracy again. But Sandoval, Schwartz and Jacks have known
41:09
each other for many years and they've been through a lot. And once again,
41:13
I say, Jax slept with Kristen, who was at the time with
41:16
Tom Sandoval, who was probably sleeping with Ariana, which she just recently acknowledged,
41:22
while Jax was with Stossy. So it's like all this fucking intersection.
41:27
It's like that meme with the guy strings and stuff like that. There's a
41:30
lot of sexual fluids that have been exchanged. So they go way back.
41:36
Wow, they go way back, because that made sense because I was like,
41:37
Okay, there's already tension of the air, and I guess that's because
41:40
Jax was like on a couple podcasts or whatever talking shit about Sandoval during the
41:45
whole scandal. Let me just say he also made an appearance at the time
41:50
on Watch What Happens Live where he just drag Tom Oh and was on coming
41:55
out as Team Marianna, which we love and endorsed. But he he was
42:00
doing it for himself. Sure, he was doing it so that he could
42:04
be on TV again, and he was doing it so that he could get
42:06
another end back into Bravo. And guess what it worked. I mean,
42:09
because he's not a whole show. He's got the valley yep. Wow.
42:14
On sand of All's back, I will tell you that on sand of All's
42:16
back, on Ariana's back, he now has a show. What a cloud
42:20
goblin. He's the worst crazy east of them all. Oh my god,
42:23
so insidious. Well, I mean, I did enjoy him calling out Sandoval
42:29
during this dinner though, because he's just kind of like going in and he's
42:31
like, man, dude, He's like, you look a lot better in
42:34
person because on social media I saw a couple of pictures where you looked old
42:37
and watched fifty. You look like you were fifty years old. You look
42:43
better except for your nail polish. That lame. You should get rid of
42:46
that. I loved that, Like, yes, but I mean it's kind
42:52
of true. It's definitely true, aging the way I think you're aging.
42:57
But it was also rude, and it is the audacity, It is the
43:00
hypocrisy of Jax Taylor, of all people trying to take Tom Sandivalf to task
43:07
for infidelity and acting a fool like Jack's out of everybody, even Tom Sandoval
43:13
and anybody else has been the worst, and so you're gonna presume to fucking
43:16
walk up in here and start taking him to task. Although because it's Tom
43:22
Sandoval, we love to see it. I mean, anybody will entertaining,
43:24
anybody will do I mean I thought it was interesting, how what's his face?
43:30
Jacks is trying to call out Sandoval for not like fully taking accountability.
43:34
He's like, dude, all you have to do is just like bend the
43:37
knee, say you're sorry and just admit it, like just be humble and
43:40
like take it for what it is. And Sandoval's like, oh yeah,
43:44
I'm doing it ay, and he thinks he has I mean he really does.
43:47
While he's comparing himself to a mass murderer. Yeah, like what the
43:52
fuck did you? You are so deluded it's crazy. And Jax just keeps
43:57
being like, just do what I did, Bro, just to minute bro,
44:00
And I'm like, really, dude, you're still cheating on Britain.
44:02
Yeah, the rumors are still everywhere on those West Hollywood Street Shut up,
44:08
You're not a paragon a virtue. And again it's like anybody who like takes
44:15
Tom Sandival to task, Like I appreciate that, but I mean I can
44:19
almost say but not Jack's no, like you are such a despicable piece of
44:23
shit who treats your wife? You treat your wife like shit. We are
44:28
covering the Valley. If you haven't listened to our episode on that, it's
44:30
either coming out soon or you should go back and check it out. Like
44:32
you treat your fucking wife like shit, and you want to waltz into Tom
44:37
Tom and take Tom's task. I was just like, that's rich, that's
44:40
rich. The audacity, it's so hypocritical, but it's so entertaining fun.
44:45
It is fun. Great, like him calling Sandival like you're me seven years
44:51
ago. I'm like, well he's got a point though, ye, Like
44:52
he's calling Sandaval out for what it is, and I like how Sandoval's just
44:57
kind of got this blank stare on his face like he doesn't even know what
44:59
to do, Like he's so wimpy and shrimpy, like he doesn't know how
45:04
to he doesn't know how to deal with people calling him out for well he
45:07
does tell Jackson's I'm not fucking apologizing to you. You fucking ask ye.
45:10
It's like a last person that can call me out of my bullshit with all
45:15
the fucking bullshit you do, so you can get fucked. So I saw,
45:19
like in that moment, like Sandoval and Jacks from years ago, like
45:22
the fighting that they've done over the years, it's been perfect. So I
45:24
could see Tom Sandivial being like, no, fuck you though, which is
45:29
fair, Like we're but we're having a conversation amongst garbage people. Yeah,
45:32
so fair is fair? Fair? I don't know, No, it's all
45:37
garbage. No, But you know Sandbal cried himself to sleep about that old
45:40
comment. You know, he did this dude who like thinks he's so years
45:45
old. My god, ten years older than what he is. I think
45:49
that's so great and it's true. Yeah, and he's probably worried about it,
45:52
oh, Tod, you know he's botoxing too close to this. He's
45:55
working out, he's fucking probably on his journey to fillers. Yep, you
46:00
know, he's working out as hard as he can on that fucking elliptical or
46:02
whatever it is he's doing. He's like worried about it. Oh, and
46:06
you should be because that's all you have to offer because you have not developed
46:09
your inner world. Yes, because you're vapid, vacuous, and we can
46:15
see you and you're old. You look you're aging. I mean, so,
46:20
is this the guy you're gonna be at fifty? Like we've w yes
46:22
seven years? Yes, eight years? Is this who you're going to be?
46:25
We're not going to do any work. This is what we're doing.
46:28
Okay, him and Jack's both him and that's so funny. They're gonna end
46:31
up roommates again. Oh totally. And that's what's so funny about this whole
46:35
confrontation because I'm like, you guys are both pieces of shit. You're both
46:37
fucking cereal cheaters. You're both clout goblins and total narcissists. It's literally two
46:43
people talking to each other in the like in the mirror. It's so funny
46:46
to me. Yeah, I love it. And that's how we end this
46:50
episode. There's no previews for next week. I know that was weird,
46:52
which was very weird. I do know though, that Jack's and Tom make
46:58
up at that meeting, Like they're gonna fight a little bit more and then
47:01
they're gonna make up. They're gonna hug it out. Okay, so we're
47:04
gonna see their resolution to that then, yes, And then of course we
47:07
see them in the after show. We've got Schwartz, Jack's and Tom Sandoval.
47:09
They're all sitting together, like agreeing on things, and so clearly it's
47:13
broke out again. Yeah, they're all shitting on Katie, like of course
47:16
she's the one we target. I guess, God, we have a enemy
47:21
in common. Well, I don't know why they just want to dog on
47:24
Katie because she's just so beautiful that she calls them out on their bullshit.
47:29
Yep, that's why she doesn't give them any quarter, any room to fucking
47:32
wiggle out of it. She sees them for exactly who they are. And
47:37
again I say her, her technique is not always perfect, which she admitted
47:42
in this episode. She's like, this is the shit. I gotta work
47:44
on his tone and delivery and delivery like I gotta write. But she's right,
47:49
Yeah, she is right. She's calling it correctly, which I love,
47:52
which we need. Yes, because I don't know what happened to Laala.
47:55
Like I thought Laala was going to come into this season and tell the
47:59
truth about what's been going on in the group like she would fucking read Tom
48:02
Sandival. I thought she'd be the first one to be reading Tom Sandoval NonStop.
48:07
I thought Shina, I mean even Shina. I thought she'd come in
48:09
and do the right thing. But they're not. It's only Katie. Yeah,
48:13
It's literally only Katie Yeah. And Ariana a little bit. But even
48:15
then, she's like, I'm over this shit. She's like, I'm not
48:19
going to expend the energy because I don't care about any of you people except
48:22
for Katie. Yep, one hundred percent. It's very interesting. I am
48:24
liking this duality between vander Pup Rules and The Valley, and I'm excited to
48:30
see like the crossovers and how all of this stuff kind of mixes together.
48:34
I hope the Valley is crazy or gets crazy this season. I hope vander
48:38
Pup Rules kind of gets crazy. It seems like it from the previews with
48:43
that black tie, it like maybe it'll get that crazy one event though I
48:47
don't know. I'm kind of I'm not disappointed in this season because I feel
48:52
like we're still in the Scandival post Scandival era, so it's all interesting,
48:55
but I just I wanted it to be more dynaw more bombastic, more dramaicious.
49:02
I really I was watching Tom Schwartz yesterday and today, and I'm just
49:07
like, he feels like he's really producing himself as the aweshucks guy as like
49:12
you know, I'm just I can't stay at your pool party, dude,
49:15
Like I don't want to be your wingman. It's a weird when on any
49:19
other day he would have hung out, he would have stayed there, Like,
49:22
it doesn't feel authentic with him at all. So I'm just a little
49:24
disappointed that it's not giving reality as much as it's giving TV. I mean,
49:30
it's Bravo, though, can you expect anything different? Yeah, I
49:34
mean I think there's a lot of shows, like if you were to be
49:36
watching The Summerhouse right now, I think there's a lot of actual drama from
49:38
og people who have been in the franchise for multiple years, giving real drama
49:44
in their lives. So and I think we're seeing real drama, but I
49:47
think we're seeing people trying to maneuver within it for their for their chance to
49:53
like get hot, elevate them yes, get more of the Pie is trying
50:00
to elevate herself, Like why did meet we see Lawla trying to play both
50:04
sides to elevate herself, whereas in Summerhouse you just see people falling apart and
50:07
then talking about it like that's what I want. Yeah, if only we
50:12
could produce these shows ourselves, I mean, yeah, maybe that's what we're
50:14
working towards. Maybe, who knows. If y'all subscribe to our channel and
50:17
our patreons leave us reviews and stuff, maybe we can. Well, this
50:22
was good. Any's final thoughts on vander Pump. Are you happy to see
50:27
Jacks? Are you happy with the way that it's going so far? But
50:30
I'm like, okay, side eyeing it like they're better be some drama.
50:34
Yeah, there better be some shit going down your breath. I want some
50:37
fights. Well maybe the value will provide Yeah. Maybe, like with both
50:40
of them, we can get what we want. Yeah, all right,
50:44
Beatrice to conclude, is there anything else that we need to say to these
50:47
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51:16
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