Latest / The Dr. Randi Show / The Injectable Breakthrough for Facial Changes After Medical Weight Loss — Dr. Rui Avelar
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- 0:30Now let's get into the episode. Hello everyone, and welcome to
- 0:34the Doctor Randy show. I'm Doctor Randy and here's
- 0:37where we explore the intersection of medicine, beauty
- 0:41and innovation. Today we have a very special
- 0:44guest. He is the Chief Medical Officer
- 0:47at Evillis. He's behind the launch of
- 0:49Evalise, the first major filler innovation in over a decade, and
- 0:54he's rewriting the playbook on how we age beautifully.
- 0:57Please welcome Doctor Rui Avalar.
- 1:01Thank you, Doctor Mandy, so excited to have you on.
- 1:04And you are right in the center of the most exciting launches in
- 1:08our industry. So it's an honor to have you
- 1:10here. And I'm just going to jump right
- 1:12in and get started with the questions, if that's OK with
- 1:14you. OK, so for anyone that has not
- 1:19heard the word Evolis yet, we've all heard Evolis, right?
- 1:22But for those who who are hearing the name Evolis and
- 1:25hearing about it for the first time, how would you describe it
- 1:28in simple terms? Well, and first of all, it's a
- 1:31hydronic acid Jelly. When we talk about fillers, it's
- 1:34such a broad category. We've actually were bold enough
- 1:38to start a campaign, drop the F word and instead of talking
- 1:42about fillers, which you know, has all sorts of components, the
- 1:46evalise line is actually made of hyaluronic acid.
- 1:49And as we all know, we're loaded with hyaluronic acid.
- 1:53It's in your skin, it's in your joints.
- 1:55That's the way we retain water and moisture and it has lots.
- 1:58And now it's kind of on your skin's cosmosuticals that you
- 2:01can get. And fundamentally, the best way
- 2:04I would describe the evalise line is we think about
- 2:08hyaluronic acid. I just think we did a really
- 2:11good job preserving the natural structure that AJ and one thing
- 2:15that that people forget is Mother Nature and designed
- 2:19hyaluronic acid. And it's so highly preserved
- 2:23across all sorts of species, like those cute little puppies
- 2:27that you see on the street, same HA as you.
- 2:30And when you manufacture these gels, there are steps that can
- 2:35actually change what that HA looks like.
- 2:38So I think in a nutshell, the the magic if you will behind
- 2:42Evelise is our manufacturing process.
- 2:44I just think we did a better job of preserving that natural HA
- 2:47structure. Fantastic.
- 2:50And I have always been a big fan of filler.
- 2:54Many people start younger. I know this is a different form,
- 2:57but this is, you know, what we've known I started later in
- 3:00life. I'm 54, started about 10 years
- 3:03ago. And it really is just amazing
- 3:06what it does to your skin, how it's able to plump things up and
- 3:11really give that youthful look again.
- 3:13So we're very excited to to hear about this.
- 3:17One of the things that I'm intrigued about when reading
- 3:20about this and studying and prepping for the show, when it
- 3:24comes to traditional injectables, people say I don't
- 3:28want to look overdone and that's always been my concern.
- 3:31In fact, when I go for my little pick me up, I go every three
- 3:35months. Instead of drawing that out and
- 3:38doing a lot at once, I go every three months so that I can have
- 3:41just the right amount and not too much at once.
- 3:44So people don't want to look overdone.
- 3:46So how does evalise keep results natural?
- 3:50You've you're raising a whole bunch of points that are so
- 3:53important. And if I can just kind of take a
- 3:56step back from the hyaluronic acid injectable and just look at
- 4:00line of toxins, for instance, we kind of went through that where
- 4:03there was a stage when it was introduced that people you can
- 4:07argue were overdone. I mean, the aesthetic outlook
- 4:10was I want to look completely annihilated.
- 4:12I want absolutely nothing to move, which is a very artificial
- 4:15look. And maybe in some demographics,
- 4:18parts of the world, we may still want that.
- 4:20But for the most part, it's now recognized that that was an
- 4:23overdone look. And what we've learned with
- 4:25botulinum toxin injectables is you're looking for something
- 4:28that gives a more natural look. And I think there's a parallel
- 4:31with all use the term fillers. We need to be somewhat
- 4:35responsible. They do these marvelous things,
- 4:37but you can overdo it and you can overfill, and I think the
- 4:41world has seen that. Hence we're seeing this term.
- 4:43We don't want to look overfilled.
- 4:45And I think what you're bringing up is incredibly important.
- 4:48We see a shift where people just want to look natural.
- 4:51They want to age gracefully or stave off the aging process as
- 4:54opposed to looking artificial. Hyaluronic acid injectables are
- 4:57a great way of doing that, again, because it's a natural
- 5:01compound that you have, and we know that when we inject that
- 5:04you can actually even stimulate some of your own collagen.
- 5:07How does Evelise do it? Well, as I mentioned to you, one
- 5:10of the things about the at least technology is we do a really
- 5:14good job preserving those HA filaments.
- 5:18And what we saw in clinical studies was that you always seem
- 5:23to require less material or less HA injectable to get an outcome.
- 5:30So less seems to give you more efficient gel, so you need less
- 5:35of it. So in this theme where we want
- 5:37to look natural, being able to get a lift or correction with
- 5:40less material, I think plays really well into that.
- 5:44That's great. I think we're ready as consumers
- 5:47in the marketplace for something new and something that is fresh
- 5:51and we're looking for the new technology.
- 5:53So very excited about this and to see the different results,
- 5:58what people are achieving with it.
- 6:00So very excited about that. And what is the big difference
- 6:05that people will see that people like myself who go for
- 6:08traditional filler and have been for 10 years, what is the
- 6:12biggest difference that patients will notice when comparing the
- 6:17two for an injector? The thing that we hear the most
- 6:21is that I just seem to get more correction with less material
- 6:25for the patient. What we tend to hear is I get a
- 6:28very natural outcome in and the material just seems very smooth.
- 6:32We also hear that from the injectors that when they
- 6:34actually use the material seems to be very smooth to integrate
- 6:37well into the tissue and that patient feedback is almost like
- 6:41it seems to be soft, feels quite natural.
- 6:44The other really big thing is sometimes when you inject the
- 6:48gel it has a lot of free hyaluronic acid in it.
- 6:52So what that means is you have to over inject and then over the
- 6:56next four to six weeks a lot of that free AJ goes away and then
- 7:00you settle into your natural outcome.
- 7:03Some gels absorb a lot of water after injecting.
- 7:06So as a patient you may be under corrected simply because you
- 7:10need to accommodate that swelling period.
- 7:13So for the next, you know, two 3-4 weeks, the product will
- 7:16swell and then you'll get a correction.
- 7:18The feedback that we've been getting from the injectors and
- 7:22from the folks who've used it is you inject to correction.
- 7:26You don't have to over inject because free AJ is going to go
- 7:28away. You don't have to under correct
- 7:29because it's going to swell. The result you have when you're
- 7:33at the injector's office is the result that you will get.
- 7:36And I'm talking a bell curve, right?
- 7:38There's always exception, everything that's phenomenal
- 7:42because that is something that I battle, right is so sometimes I
- 7:46come home and I'm like, I love the way it looks.
- 7:49And then two weeks later it deflates.
- 7:52So then you're like, oh, now I need a little bit more.
- 7:54So that's a great thing that we can look forward to.
- 7:58And I have a question. Are there certain areas of the
- 8:01face related to what you just said that this is more
- 8:06recommended for than others? Or can it be used anywhere on
- 8:09the face? So it depends on which region
- 8:13you live in. Evelyst is a global company and
- 8:15we have the rights to these itching injectables in the
- 8:18United States and in Europe. So in Europe we've launched a
- 8:21full portfolio of materials. Some products are very
- 8:25structured and can be used in the mid phase to build a
- 8:28cheekbone, take volume. Some products are really soft,
- 8:31like the smooth product, so soft that you can use it in those,
- 8:34you know, those lipstick lines you get around the mouth of
- 8:37those fine lines. You can put it very, very
- 8:40superficial there. Or if you're looking for a soft
- 8:42look in the lips, you can use that smooth product.
- 8:45And it's been used in Europe that way.
- 8:47There's a product that's kind of in the middle from rheological
- 8:50perspective, and that's called the form that has some
- 8:53structure, yet it's soft. So you can put it in these deep
- 8:56wrinkles and folds like the nasolabial folds or the fold you
- 8:59can get under here or those marionette lines that come down
- 9:02here. And then there's a lip specific
- 9:05product in Europe that is kind of has some structure and has
- 9:08some volume. In the United States, the two
- 9:11main products that are launching right now, we're kind of the
- 9:13most utilitarian. The form is the one that fits in
- 9:16the middle and has some structure and some softness and
- 9:20that could be put in kind of deeper wrinkles and folds like
- 9:24the nasolabial folds, but you can put it in that supplemental
- 9:28fold or the Marinette lines. And then the smooth product, it
- 9:32just has a different attribute. It's almost a little bit more
- 9:34liquid like you can also use it in that kind of indication.
- 9:37And then just on Friday, we just released the the data that our
- 9:42most structural product did very well and we just filed that with
- 9:46the FDA. So that products called
- 9:48sculpting that we're looking to launch that in the United States
- 9:50in the second-half of 2026. Excellent, excellent.
- 9:54Well, congratulations. It sounds like a full suite of
- 9:57products that we can rely on over time.
- 9:59So that sounds great. And for someone who has never
- 10:03had an injectable hyaluronic acid or filler in the past, why
- 10:09do you think this might be a good entry point for them?
- 10:12Well, the hyaluronic acid gels again incur the wonderful thing
- 10:18about is they're natural in the sense that the backbone is
- 10:21natural. Hyaluronic acid is kind of a
- 10:23natural compound. So that makes it a good end.
- 10:27We know that they're highly efficacious, so that's always a
- 10:30good thing. And then you never want somebody
- 10:33to have an adverse event. But one of the big benefits of
- 10:36hyaluronic acid as compared to the other category of fillers
- 10:40that people call biostimulants is if something goes wrong or if
- 10:45you're not happy with the aesthetic outcome or if there's
- 10:47a complication. Mother Nature also invented
- 10:50hyaluronidase, which is a natural enzyme that would
- 10:55dissolves and gets rid of the hyaluronic acid.
- 10:57So it's the reason I think it's a great entrant is it's based on
- 11:03hyaluronic acid. And if you get into any issues
- 11:07that you want to get rid of it, you can get rid of it.
- 11:10And there are some that are not dissolvable, right?
- 11:12And I've had to have one or two things dissolved over time, but
- 11:16that would make me very afraid that something would not be just
- 11:20like, you know, like there is not the antidote to it.
- 11:23So I think it's great that we have that option.
- 11:25And that's a great feeling going into it.
- 11:28You know, if it looks a certain way and you don't like it, that
- 11:30you can fix it, right? And it's very easy to get it
- 11:33undone. I agree with you.
- 11:36So I think that to some people that are intimidated by
- 11:42aesthetics or aesthetic care, how do you see Evely's fitting
- 11:47into everyday self-care for those who might be intimidated
- 11:51by needles or whatnot in the past?
- 11:53Will there be marketing or messaging that allows us to feel
- 11:56a little bit more comfortable for the everyday user?
- 12:00We've tried to make it really simple.
- 12:02We've tried to make things very accessible and we've obviously
- 12:04tried to educate folks. So it starts with fundamentally
- 12:09your product, how does it work? So on the scientific side, I've
- 12:12shared with you the basic premise of it, which is built
- 12:15really around natural compound. Then it behooves us to to show
- 12:19clinical data that is both safe and effective.
- 12:22And so those clinical trials undergo a lot of scrutiny by the
- 12:26FDA form smooth or approved here.
- 12:28All the products are approved in Europe right now and we have
- 12:31some going through the FDA. So that's the price of
- 12:33admission. As an organization, obviously we
- 12:36try to make materials. You may notice Evolus does not
- 12:39look pharma like. The whole platform of the
- 12:41company is to try and be very user friendly, try to make
- 12:45things very accessible and very easy.
- 12:47I mean, I couldn't imagine a pharma going out with the slogan
- 12:50don't drop the effort like we did.
- 12:52We like it to be approachable. We have a group that also helps
- 12:56to educate the providers because ultimately if I think about a
- 13:00patient to patient pairs with a provider, an injector and really
- 13:05there's a relationship that has to be built there.
- 13:07They have to trust their provider and that providers is
- 13:11the one that quite often will ask us a lot of information,
- 13:13want training, want different sorts of information and we
- 13:17provide that. So for instance, for the
- 13:19injectors and the groups that we work with, we're more than happy
- 13:23to provide the literature, but we also provide a great deal of
- 13:25training that's really in depth. We have what's called medical
- 13:29affairs clinicians that will go out and help teach you about the
- 13:32product, how to inject it if you want, and give a lot of
- 13:35education on the background in the anatomy so that people feel
- 13:39very comfortable when they're injecting products.
- 13:41Because we want our product to have a good results.
- 13:44And that starts with our injectors feeling comfortable
- 13:46and confident injecting it and then ultimately layers up to
- 13:49patients coming in and having good experience with the police
- 13:51and the providers we work with. That's wonderful because I think
- 13:55that we've all heard these horror stories of injectors who
- 13:59aren't properly trained. And I think that knowing that
- 14:03your brand is standing behind the product and going out and
- 14:06making sure that the injectors are trained, that helps us sleep
- 14:09a little better at night. So that's great that you're
- 14:12investing in your brand to do that.
- 14:15And the patients, what are their early comments from those who
- 14:19have received the treatment and maybe they've received the other
- 14:22filler in the past. How are they feeling about that
- 14:25and what are their reactions? Well, share a story.
- 14:28I hope you won't mind me sharing this, but Doctor Doris Day is a
- 14:31really well known dermatologist in Manhattan.
- 14:34She's been on our show. We love her and I love her, but
- 14:38just because she's so straightforward and she's just
- 14:41so blunt and she's incredibly smart and she's a incredibly
- 14:45skilled injector. So she and I did a meeting with
- 14:49some journalists and she was doing the clinical side and I
- 14:52was doing kind of the scientific geeky side.
- 14:54And one of the journalists asks like, how do the patients feel
- 14:58about it? And she shares the story.
- 15:00She says, look, I'm self professed very conservative.
- 15:04I do not like jumping into new products and I would rather wait
- 15:09and see how things play out. And then she said, but I played
- 15:13with the gels and it was so differentiate.
- 15:15This was so different, and we had the clinical data, but she
- 15:19said it was different enough that it was intriguing enough
- 15:22that she thought, I'm going to break my old rules and jump in.
- 15:26So the next step is injecting a patient.
- 15:28And she said the first patient that she injected, of course, is
- 15:32going to have an influence on how you think of it, right?
- 15:34Does it go well? Does it go poorly?
- 15:36And she shared that she injected a patient who was always willing
- 15:41to try the new thing. So she just said, look, I have
- 15:45this brand new gel. I've never injected.
- 15:47I have no experience with it. Do you want to try and patients
- 15:49as sure. So she injected her and then at
- 15:53this point when we're together, she says, and this is the text I
- 15:56got from my patient, whatever you injected was magic period.
- 16:00I love you, period. So she said you got a lot of
- 16:05yeah, there's nothing scientific behind that.
- 16:07But I think the underlying most important thing is the patient
- 16:11is always right. The subject's always right.
- 16:13We always want to do our patients well.
- 16:15But to get that kind of feedback was really kind of heartfelt.
- 16:19That's great. And to have Doris Day at the
- 16:22helm of that, that's amazing. She's also an incredibly skilled
- 16:26person, so I think it's almost as important.
- 16:29Yeah, she has her own technique that she uses for all of this,
- 16:33so not many do. And then I really think that she
- 16:36takes things to the next level. So are you planning to partner
- 16:41this with your neurotoxin Juvo, or come up with the way that
- 16:44they complement each other for the consumer?
- 16:48Yeah, so another great question. As an organization, obviously
- 16:51we've really targeted the practices we partner with.
- 16:55Again, we want them to be empowered and we're now we're
- 16:58starting to go out to the consumer.
- 17:01It's a natural coupling to have our neurotoxin JAVO with our
- 17:05injectable HAF Elise, tremendous amount of overlap with the
- 17:08patients. So it's an absolute natural one.
- 17:11And then you know the other interesting thing about the F
- 17:13Elise line is it's the only filler on label that can be used
- 17:18with GLP 1 weight loss. So if we have that in our
- 17:22patient labeling, that's almost a third dimension if you will,
- 17:25but pairing it with our neurotoxin absolutely.
- 17:28And we're that neurotoxin Javo is now you know, since we've
- 17:32almost since we kind of relaunched, it's been the
- 17:34fastest growing neurotox release last three or four years.
- 17:39So let's go back to what you just said about the GLP ones.
- 17:42We have a lot of our listeners and viewers are taking GLP ones
- 17:47or interested in that. So talk to me about what's
- 17:49unique about evalise and GLP ones.
- 17:53Well, I think about as providers which you can advertise on
- 17:56label, not on label. This product right now is the
- 17:59only product right now where the label actually recognizes that
- 18:03at least filler can be lost, can be used with the patients who
- 18:07have the wrinkles and folds that are attributed to weight loss.
- 18:11Interesting, interesting. That's great to know because in
- 18:15our data and studies, the people that are having and using the
- 18:20GLP ones, the first treatment that they're going for is a skin
- 18:24tightening or a filler or something to help with what
- 18:27happens to their skin as a result of the GLP ones.
- 18:30So that's a great story to be able to pair that together.
- 18:33So we're excited about that. So you've had Jouvo for how many
- 18:38years has it been? So we launched it in 2019 and
- 18:42then there was a relaunched it in full.
- 18:46But basically we've launched since 2019.
- 18:49Yeah, it's like 3 or three years now.
- 18:51It's been the fastest growing toxin.
- 18:53So for this many years you haven't been in this category.
- 18:58So what made this the right time to add to the Juveau popularity?
- 19:03If we look at the field of aesthetics, the number one asset
- 19:07in that field is a box on toxin, period.
- 19:09And the conversation, nothing even close, there's absolutely
- 19:13nothing close. So we really, that's why that
- 19:17the box on toxin was our first asset, because if you have a box
- 19:21on toxin that works, then you can build an asset around that.
- 19:26And you know, selling a product and putting the energy into it,
- 19:31particular for small company like ours is a really big deal.
- 19:34Adding on an HA would be logical because if you look at the top 2
- 19:39assets in aesthetics will be HA injectables and botulinum toxic
- 19:44became a natural. But I think we've really
- 19:46benefited from that singular focus of introducing and
- 19:50bringing Java and we did a lot of things that none of our
- 19:53competitors did. I think I'd like to be
- 19:56complimentary to all the neurotox that are available.
- 19:58They work really well. Like if we look at.
- 20:02The botulinum toxin as a category, I mean it's amazing.
- 20:05That drug works incredibly well. And I think all the
- 20:07manufacturers if you're approving the United States have
- 20:09a reasonable offering. But you know, when we were
- 20:12there, the lion's share was owned by of that market was
- 20:15Allergan. And instead of just trying to
- 20:17compete against everyone, what we wanted to do was we knew we
- 20:21had a really good botulinum toxin.
- 20:23We knew we had really good clinical data.
- 20:25But what we thought we would do is try and expand the market.
- 20:28And so when we when you looked at ours, most people will say
- 20:33the market is only about 10% penetrated.
- 20:35So we made a concerted effort to really focus on the millennial
- 20:38and the millennial now is pushing 40 years of age at that
- 20:41lead. So all our marketing material
- 20:44and all the stuff that we did was really focused on trying to
- 20:47bring in the millennial and published data that actually
- 20:49shows this medicine can actually be regenerative.
- 20:52You could actually stave off the wrinkling process or even
- 20:55reverse it. Phenomenal.
- 20:57That's I think that you're definitely on the frontier of
- 20:59something absolutely new. And on that topic, do you see
- 21:04that Evelise is going to change the way that doctors and
- 21:08injectors are going to talk to their patients about filler?
- 21:13I, I hope so. Like I said, we were trying to
- 21:16drop the F word so that people would just anchor in a
- 21:18hyaluronic acid. I think again, just bringing
- 21:22back to the tone that AJ fundamental that building bone
- 21:25is a natural product. And I think the fact that
- 21:28heavily seems to be a really efficient gel in that a little
- 21:31bit of material seems to go a long way may very well help that
- 21:34narrative. And that's what I was going to
- 21:35ask you, You know, what is the positioning, the conversation
- 21:40that you're planning to use to set this apart, right?
- 21:43Like what is that messaging for customers because the trust is
- 21:47built with these other brands? What is the messaging that
- 21:50you're going to be using to set everything apart?
- 21:54Well, the fundamental building block is the one I can share
- 21:56with you if you like a JS natural product and gives you a
- 21:59natural look. And on the botulinum toxin side,
- 22:02the Gevo, one of the attributes that we're seeing is it's a
- 22:06really precise drug and that also fits in with that natural
- 22:11theme. With precision, you can get kind
- 22:15of a more natural look. So for instance, if you're going
- 22:17to do certain areas that precision will give you a more
- 22:20subtle look, OK. And I'm looking forward to
- 22:24seeing all the marketing behind it.
- 22:26I think that in the now the consumer is looking so much more
- 22:31for that natural look. So I think that that's going to
- 22:36be a great for this time because I do think just a few years ago,
- 22:40people wanted this very extreme look, right?
- 22:43And so I think that now that we've settled into natural, this
- 22:46will go a long way. And one of the things I wanted
- 22:49to ask you as we start to wrap things up, looking back on your
- 22:53career as the expert in this industry and now that you've
- 22:57shared with us where you've been, what you've done,
- 22:59obviously you are the expert. What shaped how you approached
- 23:04bringing Evelise to market? You know, from all of the
- 23:07information and expertise that you've gathered along the way,
- 23:11the simplicity was a real big factor.
- 23:13If we look at the United States, we have, I'll say kind of two
- 23:18dominant families, one from the Galdera line, one from the
- 23:21Allergan APFY line. Well deserved.
- 23:23You know, they're excellent products.
- 23:25If you go to Europe, I mean there are hundreds of fillers,
- 23:30Nhas and you may ask, well, what's the difference?
- 23:33Well, it's the level of scrutiny to get something approved.
- 23:37In Europe. They used to have what was
- 23:38called the MDD process and medical directive, and then they
- 23:42will move to what was called the MDR.
- 23:45And DMDR is basically they go from a medical directive to a
- 23:49medical regulation, medical device regulation.
- 23:52And in the old days in Europe, you didn't even need clinical
- 23:56studies necessarily to get something approved.
- 23:59Whereas with this new regulation now you need some sort of
- 24:02clinical trial in the United States.
- 24:05These products are a device and they're classified as a Class 3.
- 24:11And the FDA expects to see a lot of data.
- 24:14They want to see, they don't understand the manufacturing,
- 24:17the bulk compatibility. They want to see how long stuff
- 24:20lasts. They want to see how it performs
- 24:22in humans. They want to see both efficacy
- 24:25and safety and at a high rigor level.
- 24:28So that's the environment that we're in in the United States,
- 24:32which I think benefits all of us.
- 24:34If I think about why I like Devily so much, it really
- 24:37anchors around what I said to you earlier.
- 24:39You know, I did practice medicine for 20 years.
- 24:41And when I looked at patients, you manage them.
- 24:44You want them to have a good outcome and inevitably something
- 24:47goes wrong. And when you have to manage an
- 24:49adverse event or something that goes wrong, you're the provider
- 24:53and it's your patient. So it can't help but feel it a
- 24:56little bit personally. And you want patients to have
- 24:58good outcomes. And then as somebody who did
- 25:00R&D, the thing that I think was most humbling is I saw a lot of
- 25:03technologies and worked with a lot of technologies and you go,
- 25:07wow, that's amazing. And then as you put them through
- 25:11and you get into a bigger enough sample size, you sometimes get
- 25:15surprised with one of the outcomes or one of the adverse
- 25:18events that you never saw coming.
- 25:20And you never forget that. So with new technologies,
- 25:24sometimes you can create a new problem and I think we always
- 25:28need to be humbled with that. And I think those data points
- 25:32for me were why the Sevilleise HHL was resonated with me and
- 25:38that was I recognize what the new technology was.
- 25:42They basically took a very smart approach to a problematic step
- 25:48that cross linking. And then when I thought about
- 25:51what is the new chemistry here, when you step back, you go there
- 25:55is none. So what they did was just took
- 26:00what everyone had been doing and try to fix a problem.
- 26:03And that's why it's so appealing to me.
- 26:05So far we've been having good results.
- 26:07People who can have the clinical studies in the United States
- 26:09have borne out that it seems to be a good product.
- 26:12But those are the things that you know, make me feel good
- 26:15about it and kind of how I was thinking through things.
- 26:18And a plug for our CEO, Dave Modazetti, who was also came
- 26:22from Allergan. And I love it when he talks
- 26:25about, you know, we're a performance beauty company.
- 26:27And what we mean by that is we look for products and we always
- 26:31want to bring products that are as good as the standard.
- 26:34We're always happy to bring something we think that may be
- 26:36better and that's how we look at it supposed to just bring a
- 26:39product for the sake having something portfolio.
- 26:41So I really appreciate his charter and hopefully we're
- 26:44living by it. Well, you've done an amazing job
- 26:49of filling us in on all things Evolis and Evolise, and we
- 26:53appreciate that. And I'm just going to ask one
- 26:56more question for our listeners and viewers, because you are the
- 27:00expert in our space. What do you think, Doctor
- 27:03Avalar, the future of aesthetics holds for us in the next 5 or 10
- 27:07years? I think it's bold and very
- 27:10positive. We're looking at some of the
- 27:12technologies right now that I think there is potential for
- 27:15being more creative in the biostimulant area.
- 27:18We're looking at things that are really early, such as gene
- 27:21therapy. And we know that skin quality as
- 27:24we age is something we're trying to impact and we're recognizing
- 27:27the roles of various things for that.
- 27:29But I look at it from a technology perspective.
- 27:31I see various things that can come in.
- 27:34I look at the field of biomaterials.
- 27:37I believe that there's some innovations coming there
- 27:39particular that can impact positively regenerative
- 27:42medicine. And as a field, you know, I, I
- 27:44think it's really positive. Again, it's not a saturated
- 27:47field. Probably again, you hear we're
- 27:50only maybe 10% saturated. Here's an interesting stuff that
- 27:54I heard about from GLP ones. We know that when you use the
- 27:57GLP one, there are a number who then turn to aesthetics because
- 28:02as you mentioned that volume loss, that skin and you hear, I
- 28:06just have aged prematurely. And so they're looking for
- 28:10solution with aesthetics does offer the staff that I didn't
- 28:14expect is of the GLP 1 users in this particular survey, 20% of
- 28:20them hadn't even heard of the field of aesthetics.
- 28:24So there's a whole door opening for some people who didn't even
- 28:28know that some of these technologies are around.
- 28:30And I think that inspires more investment from the companies
- 28:34and just a bigger community that participates.
- 28:36And I think that's really good for the industry.
- 28:39Well, it sounds like a very exciting time to be in
- 28:41aesthetics and you're at the forefront and the experts.
- 28:44So thank you so much for joining us today.
- 28:47And I think that we are very excited to have this hit the
- 28:50market and see how it starts affecting our faces and giving
- 28:54us a natural look. So thank you so much, Doctor
- 28:57Avalar, thank you so much. My pleasure and thank you for
- 29:01joining us today on the show, everyone.
- 29:03We look forward to seeing you on the next episode of The Doctor
- 29:06Randy Show. Doctor Randy Boyett holds a PhD
- 29:10and is a recognized leader in the aesthetics and medical
- 29:12industry. She is not a licensed medical
- 29:15doctor. All commentary and product
- 29:17recommendations are based on industry expertise and are
- 29:20provided for informational purposes only.