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- 0:00Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: This episode of the Voices for Voices TV show podcast.
- 0:04Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I'm your host, founder and executive director of Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes, so this is going to be one of the first.
- 0:14Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So usually I film, we film episodes later in the day, and so this is a morning episode and it can only be described, I think, by how we, how we feel, and I felt like it would be a good time to a good time to do an episode.
- 0:57Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I've had some good thoughts, some bad thoughts.
- 1:00Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You're kind of racing through my mind as we're talking about, uh, you know our let's say our uh religious beliefs, if we have them.
- 1:21Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I do do have that belief.
- 1:29Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: On the Catholic side of things, again, everybody has their opinions.
- 1:34Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We're trying hard not to judge, and so we don't really, as an organization, care where you're coming from.
- 1:44Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We don't really, as an organization, care where you're coming from.
- 1:47Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: If you're non-religious, religious, catholic, protestant, muslim, it doesn't matter to us.
- 1:55Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: What matters to us is that we're coming together the best that we can, the best that we know how, the best that we can, the best that we know how, and that we have belief and we believe in ourselves.
- 2:16Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Now, that can be from a simplified standpoint like oh yeah, I believe in myself, I believe in what I believe in what I like, what I like to do.
- 2:27Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You know, we talk about professions.
- 2:31Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: If I have an electrician background, an experience, and I don't believe in myself and believe in the work that I'm doing, that's gonna come across to customers at some some point.
- 2:56Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Now there's always gonna be customers and people that are you know they're.
- 3:01Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: They're the haters.
- 3:03Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: They don't want to see anybody succeed.
- 3:05Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: They want to drag people down, they don't want to see success happen for anybody.
- 3:14Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And when it does happen, then the negative thoughts, the negative stereotypes, the negative stereotypes, just the negativity, the toxicity.
- 3:28Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You know we don't have to all love like our individual actions, but from a human species we should have love for all individuals.
- 3:46Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Again, we can't make decisions for others and we're not trying to push our decisions on others.
- 3:55Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We're just coming to you in a raw form of a very popular Voices for Voices TV show and podcast.
- 4:05Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We just received notification that one of the software packages that I purchased just over a month ago and I was really hesitant to do that, because there's a lot of great people, a lot of great organizations, a lot of great organizations, a lot of great software out there to help try to navigate a little bit better through optimizing titles, descriptions, keywords and you heard me on an earlier episode talk about that.
- 4:42Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so I got that notification that just in the month or so that we we've had this, that we received 30,000 views on YouTube alone, and YouTube is only one of the 16 plus platforms that this show is on in the video form and the audio form.
- 5:08Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so that really blew me away because, as some of the earlier episodes came across, as this episode is very raw people going through crises, going through disagreements, arguments, being unsure about ourselves and I'm living proof of someone that has lower self-esteem, lower confidence, on more days than I would like and so that's where the belief and believing come in.
- 6:01Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Bringing it back to the topic of discussion for this episode, and believing and believe it can come in many different forms.
- 6:17Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I mentioned confidence success.
- 6:21Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You know success, having success, is definitely something that helps.
- 6:52Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: When we look at believing in what we're doing and how we're doing, it started out terrible skipping classes, skipping exams, having to retake an econ economics class for the very reasons I'm missing class and getting I think it was like a D and that was unacceptable on all levels.
- 7:00Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So I had to retake that.
- 7:02Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So that cost extra money, just a fact of the matter.
- 7:06Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And through the roller coaster of college, university or even just high school, and not even that, just life.
- 7:18Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We all have ups and downs.
- 7:20Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We have things that that go our way and things that don't.
- 7:24Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So if we're driving and we're hitting all green lights when we're on our way to our destination, then that's an example of hey, today's going to be a good day.
- 7:39Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Vice versa, we all run into what seems to be all red lights, could add.
- 7:48Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: The other side of things.
- 7:50Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Oh no, this is just another thing that it's going wrong, going against me, going against us and I've spoken at length about an organization like ours, voices for Voices, or us as a human being, justin Allen Hayes.
- 8:16Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We progress in life.
- 8:24Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We talk about, you know, high school, middle school.
- 8:28Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We develop friendships with a lot of people or, like me, not not a lot of people that friends and that I wasn't in a popular group and and whatnot, and we've covered that.
- 8:43Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So that's the water under the bridge at this point.
- 8:45Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But that affects our confidence in what we're doing.
- 8:52Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So fast forward to my education at Youngstown State, which started out awful, as I mentioned, but it ended great.
- 9:02Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I was not only attending all my classes, I was actually studying, I was preparing, I was leading presentations, I was leading group projects, I was running point on those and I don't know what came over me, but there was a switch.
- 9:23Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I'll say a switch because that just sounds like transactional, but there were just a series of events that occurred of what am I going to do?
- 9:35Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Am I going to be in college the rest of my life?
- 9:37Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You know my I'm not going to have any financial support.
- 9:41Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh, and you know, and the list goes on and on.
- 9:46Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But when I finished strong, that gave me the confidence of all.
- 9:53Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Right, justin, I can believe in you.
- 9:57Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You know going on in my head, you know I can believe in what we're doing.
- 10:05Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I'm doing.
- 10:06Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: However, we want to refer to that, and so when that was happening, I had a high positive belief of what I was doing, heading into later stages of my education at Youngstown State and then even my master's at Walsh University.
- 10:49Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I was trying to think the best way to share this, because it's hard.
- 11:00Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: It's hard to share intimate personal details with 52 countries, 560 cities across the world, those 30,000 views on YouTube and even more on all the other platforms.
- 11:22Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We combine those together, there's a sense of feeling alone.
- 11:31Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Well, we know we're individuals, we're all made different, we all have different traits, characteristics that we're good at.
- 11:47Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Others may be good at as well, or maybe they're not, and that doesn't matter.
- 11:55Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But when we talk about feeling alone, when we're leading a project, when we are taking the time for our mental health, our health in general, our profession, it's really and I've felt it at various times and no more than where I'm at right now of feeling alone.
- 12:42Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And there's a third eye blind song.
- 12:43Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: It's off their first album.
- 12:45Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: It might be motorcycle drive-by, and what that really talks about is at least the part I want to share is I've never felt so alone and I've never felt so alive.
- 13:03Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And that line, or those two lines of that song that I just shared, those two lines of that song that I just shared, that is so, so true, because the song also goes on to talk about you know, as you're building something, and that there's others that don't want to see it happen, and this isn't.
- 13:32Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I mean, third Eye Blind is my favorite band of all time, but this isn't a plug for any stretch.
- 13:40Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I love the band, love the band members, stephen Jenkins, brad Hargraves, etc.
- 13:50Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But there are there's people that they don't want to see it happen.
- 13:56Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: They don't want to see your success, my success, organizations, affiliations that we have, you know, as we, we would come back to the beginning of this episode.
- 14:10Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You know we're talking about believing and beliefs and if there's a lot of haters, as I mentioned just as a term, the haters are the people that don't want to see it happen.
- 14:28Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: They don't want to see your success, they don't want to see my success.
- 14:32Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: They don't want to see my success.
- 14:33Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: They don't want to see the success of Voices for Voices.
- 14:37Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: They don't want to see Voices for Voices helping three billion people.
- 14:42Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: They want to see, as a lot of times our media portrays, you know, these shock value statements or, you know, coming out against a particular topic, a particular experience.
- 14:58Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And there are, you know, call them sheep and wolves, a wolf in sheep's clothing.
- 15:09Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: There's people that want to stay close, they want to find out what you're doing, how you're doing it.
- 15:15Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: They want to get those what we'll call trade secrets and intellectual property, and all that really means is all the work, all the training, all the apprenticeships, all the apprenticeships, the internships, all that experience that nobody was there to see that happen.
- 15:40Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: They thought, like this show, that it's magic where I sit down or stand at the studio, the things are magic, where we film it and then boom, it's, it's, it goes out.
- 15:58Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: That's part of it.
- 16:04Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But the reach and to touch as many lives as possible for that one individual and that one individual might be you, because that was me and it still is me, because I'm still learning and I'm still struggling with the belief and believing in myself and the organization, because it feels, from many different directions, that people and organizations, they don't want to see it happen, they don't want to see the success, they want to focus time and energy on other people, other organizations and I know there's a lot of great people and great organizations out there.
- 16:58Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But to me, the people and the organizations, the people that are donating to other organizations very similar to Voices for Voices, but they won't donate $1 to Voices for Voices, but they won't donate $1 to Voices for Voices it feels like high school, it feels like school, it feels like a clique, it feels like a group, it feels like groups.
- 17:25Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Now, this could be no response from emails reaching out, no response from emails reaching out.
- 17:35Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: This could be no response from attending an event and sharing a QR code or a brochure about our organization that those things never really escalate to the point of, yeah, we want to support Voices for Voices, we are non-traditional, we don't have the connections that others have.
- 18:03Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We can reach out, but we just don't have that, at least at this point.
- 18:17Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so, talking a little bit more in the middle part of the show today, a feeling alone that there's others, there's people that don't want to see the success, don't want to see the people shift from one organization to another.
- 18:39Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: There's people that want to again take your ideas, your experiences, my ideas, my experiences, my board's experiences, and they just want to pop in here and there and then they want to take notes on what's going on, how you're doing it, what software you're using, how you're finding your guests, who future guests are, who future guests are.
- 19:05Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: There's a lot of that when the Voices for Voices walk is going to be this May or June, where people want to take advantage of situations and just pop in for that photo op or that photo bomb where this scene is happening, and then somebody just pops in at the last minute to take all the ideas that have been happening.
- 19:35Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so part of me feeling alone is put on by myself.
- 19:46Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Because just as I was finishing out at a high point in my undergrad at Youngstown State and I told the story before I'll tell it again there was a summer class I was taking, there was an exam that was coming up.
- 20:10Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I studied, studied, studied.
- 20:13Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: The day of the exam came and a student raised their hand and asked if we could have an oral exam, meaning the professor would read through all the questions but then they would select students to respond and based on their response, the whole class would get the same grade.
- 20:35Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So question one student got wrong, that's one question that everybody in the class is going to get wrong, and so that gets deducted from the score.
- 20:47Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so at that time I wasn't going to see it happen that way.
- 20:51Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So we had a little I guess little survey of who wanted to take the test as a plan pen paper, pencil paper and who wanted to do the oral exam.
- 21:11Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So we all put our heads down.
- 21:13Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Professor asked which way, and I was.
- 21:18Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I raised my hand because I wanted to take the exam the old-fashioned way, because I had studied and I didn't want to be taken advantage of because I was doing very well, I was answering a lot of questions.
- 21:34Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Again, I was doing very well, and so, after everybody voted, our heads came up, we opened our eyes and a professor said okay, if you want to, if you raised your hand to take the exam, you know the old-fashioned way pen and paper, pencil paper, you know, go ahead next door.
- 21:55Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: There were 20, about 20 students in class and I was the only one that walked over next door because I wanted to take the exam as planned, as I had studied my butt off and I didn't want to see others ride my coattails.
- 22:16Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So I was sitting there next door and then a minute or two went by and one or two students came in, and then another couple students came in and then, finally, professor said okay, everybody, come back to class, we're going to take it the old-fashioned way.
- 22:39Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So we're going to take it as planned.
- 22:42Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We're not going to do the oral exam.
- 22:45Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And I felt a sense of accomplishment, of standing up for myself, that I don't know up until believing in my abilities at that point, and I was able to impact that process by wanting to take that exam, whether it was next door or in the class with everybody, and I was not going to be the one that was going to answer all the questions on the oral exam and have the person or persons, other students, basically get the score that I got.
- 23:41Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And I have that exam somewhere because it meant so much to me and my growth as a person, an individual that was buried for such a long time because of my alcohol addiction, just my this utter lack of not caring about a whole lot of things, and it wasn't healthy at all.
- 24:11Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So that was the first time that I can remember that I believed in myself and had belief Again, substance-free sober and had belief Again, substance-free sober but I felt alone because I was the only person that went next door.
- 24:31Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I believed in myself that much that I was willing to take an exam the old-fashioned way and have the other 19 or so students take the exam.
- 24:47Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: They want to do an oral exam, that's great, they can do that.
- 24:50Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I'm going to be responsible for what I did, what I done and I had studied again so much no-transcript.
- 25:38Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: What do you do when the day the paper or the presentations do and and that student or person comes in and again trying to steal all that hard work that I did, that my team that actually did the work, or there were times where I was the only one on the team.
- 25:57Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: There was a team of five, so I had four students that didn't do a darn thing on a project and I ended up telling the teacher I don't like being a tattletale and that, however, I had that belief in myself that I wasn't going to be taken advantage of if it was up to me, if that was possible.
- 26:27Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Again, sometimes that is possible, sometimes it's not.
- 26:31Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But when, and those two instances that I stood up for myself, that I believed in myself, it felt really good, felt really good inside, but I felt alone.
- 26:51Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And the other people in my group, the other people in my class that wanted to ride my coattails, people in my group, other people in my class that wanted to ride my coattails, those were the individuals that they didn't want to study but they wanted to get all the credit from the person that did study or the person that took the initiative and got that project kicked off and and said, okay, well, nobody responded to my messages, so I'm getting started.
- 27:19Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so it was alone because I was the only one in those instances that was doing the work and here at Voices for Voices, and we have a quite interesting board of directors.
- 27:43Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We all have our busy schedules and I'm probably not the best at doing the managing part, but that's just me, you know.
- 27:56Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I've gotten messages where people want to help me, so I don't say um as much or like a lot as much.
- 28:08Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I've also gotten feedback that because, for whatever reason, I don't know if it's the medications that I'm on or what, but when I'm thinking, sometimes my eyes it looks like my eyes are, you know, they're darting up, they're down, they're side, they're side.
- 28:30Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And I got a message it was very hurtful on TikTok.
- 28:31Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: It said that, oh, I was feeling that stroke you were going through and that was very hurtful.
- 28:39Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And I know that no matter how successful anybody is, there's going to be haters, there's going to be people against what we're doing and against me as an individual, because they don't want to see it happen, they don't want to see that success.
- 28:55Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But they'll come in and and steal guest ideas, organization ideas, and so the people don't want to see it happen.
- 29:12Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And although and I'm working through this as a human that at this point in life, as you're watching, listening to this episode.
- 29:33Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I've never felt so alone, and that's hard to talk about.
- 29:42Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I'm talking voices for voices predominantly here, but whether it's the hair, whether it's playing some songs and butchering them and not saying I'm not a great guitar player or singer, but I just like to do that, it's comforting.
- 30:04Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So I've never felt so alone at this point, but I've also never felt so alive.
- 30:16Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But I've also never felt so alive.
- 30:21Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: People don't want to see success happen, but success is happening for Voices, for Voices.
- 30:27Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Thank you for your support.
- 30:29Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Please give us a big thumbs up, like, share, follow, comment If you're able to donate.
- 30:38Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Really appreciate that.
- 30:39Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Voices for voicesorg.
- 30:40Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Until next time.
- 30:43Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I'm justin allen hayes, founder and executive director of voices for voices.
- 30:47Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Be a voice for you or somebody in need.