Latest / Show, don't Tell Writing with Suzy Vadori / 20. [Show, don't Tell Page Review] Action/Adventure with Muhammad
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- 0:07Welcome to Show Don't Tell Writing with me, Suzy Vidori, where I teach you the tried and true secrets to writing fiction, nonfiction, that are going to wow your readers broken down step by step.
- 0:18We're going to explore writing techniques.
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- 1:00And you're going to also have some fun doing it.
- 1:02Let's dive in.
- 1:05I had the opportunity to speak with Mohamed Nadabo Fadje about his story that he's writing.
- 1:12Mohamed comes all the way from Nigeria and sent in this submission because he wanted some feedback.
- 1:18He wants to write the best African book that he can possibly write.
- 1:24He's got this huge dream.
- 1:26Our connection was not the best.
- 1:27I'm going to read you the story, and then I'm going to give you some feedback, and then we're going to intersperse it with some snippets from this amazing writer.
- 1:35And so I hope you really enjoy some of the audio quality, unfortunately, because he's very remote, wasn't, wasn't usable.
- 1:43But I had a really terrific conversation.
- 1:45Muhammad's super excited to up his writing game, to apply all the really cool show, don't tell pieces.
- 1:51He has written three other books in his native language and this now he's super excited to be writing in English.
- 1:58It is a really cool story that he's going to write with lots of action and adventure.
- 2:05It's a story for adults, and this piece that he sent in that I'm about to read to you and then give feedback on is called The Well.
- 2:14He was the tallest man on earth.
- 2:16His size was bigger than Goliath of ancient history.
- 2:20Jeremie was living on an island surrounded by an orchard, rocks, and mountain ranges.
- 2:26The giant lived inside a green house, and the house had a green bed, table, and chairs.
- 2:32It was also surrounded by giant green flowers big enough to be seen from miles away.
- 2:39The green house that the giant built was near the sea.
- 2:43One day, the giant dreamt of building the deepest well.
- 2:47How long did it take to build the well?
- 2:4930 days.
- 2:50Wow, that's wonderful.
- 2:51Someone built a well linked to the sea in only 30 days?
- 2:55But it does sound like he was giant.
- 2:58Yes, the old man continued narrating the story.
- 3:01He dug deeply into the ground.
- 3:02The hole was big enough to travel miles.
- 3:05The hole was so deep that it traveled a hundred miles into the ground.
- 3:10Later, he changed the shape of the hole into a big tunnel.
- 3:13It was the longest tunnel which stretched several miles to the sea.
- 3:17He arrived at the sea.
- 3:19The End He built a waterway that linked the Seine and the well.
- 3:23He completed the project and built a giant iron gate at the entrance of the tunnel.
- 3:28It was the largest gate so far ever constructed.
- 3:33So, welcome to the podcast.
- 3:35Thank you.
- 3:36Awesome.
- 3:37Where are you calling from, Mohamed?
- 3:39Yes, I'm calling from Nigeria, Conestoga.
- 3:42Amazing.
- 3:43Welcome.
- 3:44Okay.
- 3:44So, this is an action adventure story?
- 3:47Exactly.
- 3:47It's an action adventure story.
- 3:50Why are you writing this particular story at this moment in your life, Mohamed?
- 3:56Well, I started writing this story to encourage the young writers or the old writers together, because I'm an old person, but I'm still Trying to improve the writing skill of African writers because I am a new writer, but I have a skill to improve some aspect of writing.
- 4:14So I began writing since a long time ago.
- 4:18Because I started writing since when I was young.
- 4:22Maybe I was 30, I think about 30 years ago.
- 4:24I started writing.
- 4:2530 years ago, I love it.
- 4:28Yes, I started writing with my Hausa language.
- 4:31Yes, I started with my Hausa language.
- 4:33I started, I wrote a books.
- 4:34You know, it is a novel.
- 4:36I published it about 20 years ago.
- 4:39So, I'm also a film writer.
- 4:41I wrote some films.
- 4:42It's about three films.
- 4:43I produced about three household films.
- 4:46So, I'm still writing.
- 4:49So, I write, uh, my language, Hausa language, is very interesting.
- 4:52It's a very interesting language.
- 4:54So, I started writing in English.
- 4:57So, I like English writing.
- 4:59So, it encouraged me to keep on writing.
- 5:01So, I'm very interested.
- 5:03Writing in English.
- 5:05So I have many, many books.
- 5:08Good, good.
- 5:09So you have Okay, well, your English in the writing is very strong.
- 5:12It's great.
- 5:13It's a fiction story.
- 5:14It's a nice fiction story full of adventure.
- 5:18The story is talking about a, that's a war in Africa.
- 5:22So the people in that village, they believe that that war has a link with the sea in North Africa.
- 5:27So, because of that history, some people believe that that sea is the oldest foil in that area.
- 5:33So, one day, an English archaeologist traveled from England down to the small small Africa to find the true story of that world.
- 5:44So, after he came to the plate, he took a journey through a long tunnel that he spread this.
- 5:57And he found that the world has a source from that, from Mediterranean Sea, but on the way he come across a lot of very incredible stories on that ground.
- 6:08Amazing.
- 6:08Okay.
- 6:09Yes, it's about 65, 000 words.
- 6:11You can see all of that alive in your mind?
- 6:14All of that beautiful landscape and everything in Africa.
- 6:19And what we're going to work on here is making sure that that gets onto your page so that readers can see it also.
- 6:28Okay, so when Haman and I met, we had lots of feedback for him.
- 6:32He's got so many cool things going on.
- 6:35I really like the fact that he's writing about this giant.
- 6:38He has a narrator that travels all around Africa and collects these stories in this fictional tale.
- 6:44And so that's what you heard that sort of.
- 6:46Interspersed in there.
- 6:48This is a snippet from the middle of the book.
- 6:50So basically what's happening is the narrator is telling about his journey.
- 6:55So I had a bunch of feedback and the main feedback was when I spoke with Muhammad He really could see all of these things and that were happening to the giant alive in his mind And he could answer the questions I love talking to writers because sometimes when I ask a question about what it looks like The writer looks at me blankly and says, I don't know.
- 7:19I haven't thought of that.
- 7:20And that's usually a problem.
- 7:22Not so with Mohammed.
- 7:23He knew exactly what he wanted to say, and it was so alive in his mind, but this wasn't quite on the page yet.
- 7:29And so that's what we worked on together.
- 7:31So, the first thing in the first paragraph was about just the setting, right?
- 7:37Now, we're not talking about doing pages and pages of setting, but in an opening to a story, or in the opening to, this is in the middle of his book, but it is a new story.
- 7:47There's a bunch of different stories.
- 7:49And in, in this particular story, he hasn't quite done as much as he could to ground us.
- 7:56Right?
- 7:56So we've got this line.
- 7:58He's living on an island surrounded by an orchard, rocks, and mountain ranges.
- 8:02So that is telling when we just kind of list what's there.
- 8:05You could turn that into some beautiful showing details.
- 8:09I'm sure it's alive in his mind that would show us what this looks like because I don't know.
- 8:13I haven't been to this spot.
- 8:15Right?
- 8:15Right.
- 8:15Right.
- 8:15Um, so what my comment here was, was that I would love a detail or two to ground us in that moment, whether it's on earth or it's more fantastical, you know, we have a giant.
- 8:27So is it set in Africa the way that it is, or is it set in sort of a larger than life Africa where everything is really fantastical?
- 8:35I'm not really sure.
- 8:36And so Mohammed will have to decide that as he goes, but gestures that I had were to make it clear, you know, First of all, I wasn't even sure if all of these things listed were on the island or was the island small and plain and these are on the mainland that's surrounding this, so he needs to make a decision there, right?
- 8:56But instead of saying he was surrounded by an orchard, rocks, and mountain ranges, here's some suggestions.
- 9:02So what I usually do is give a suggestion and I tell the writer, If they love the suggestion, take it.
- 9:08As an editor, like, take it.
- 9:10It's yours.
- 9:11Put it in the story.
- 9:12But if you hate my suggestions, sometimes that's even better.
- 9:15Because what happens is, they'll go, But Susie, that's nuts! That, my character would never say that, or never do that, or that isn't what it is.
- 9:22And I say, Great! That's awesome! I'm glad you had that reaction.
- 9:26Because now you know exactly what should be on your page.
- 9:30All right, so my suggestion here, instead of just saying that, was to give me a showing detail or two.
- 9:36Right?
- 9:37Not a whole paragraph, not a whole page, just a couple of words, turns this orchard, rocks, and mountain ranges from flat into something that's 3D and your readers can actually picture.
- 9:48Right?
- 9:49So we could put something like, He was on an island covered with orchards of twisted peach trees, jagged rocks protecting the coastline, and a soaring mountain range hugging the furthest cape.
- 10:02You see what I've done there?
- 10:03We've added like four or five words, not very many words, and yet now you have this 3D image of this island, all of the things on it, rather than just listing.
- 10:15So, I also suggested, you got a giant! His name is Jeremy the Giant, and if he's a giant, I really wanted to know, this is something that we talked really long about, how big a giant is he?
- 10:28Now when we're writing about fables or history, you know, like magical creatures like giants, there's a huge range and you can make up your own.
- 10:36You don't have to go with the conventions.
- 10:39If you think in Harry Potter, Hagrid was a giant, but he's just a large man.
- 10:44He's probably only eight feet or something in the story or in the movies.
- 10:48But there's also giants that could be 30 feet tall or as tall as a mountain.
- 10:52So I really needed to know to be able to picture anything about this story, just how big a giant is he?
- 10:59All right, so if he's a giant, there's an opportunity to show us how tall he is versus the house that he built or versus the mountains, right?
- 11:07Then, he's building this deepest well.
- 11:10My biggest feedback from Muhammad on this page is I don't know why he's building the well.
- 11:15Now, what was really cool was when I talked to Muhammad, his answer.
- 11:24I think my biggest question, Muhammad, on this page is what does the giant want from the well?
- 11:30Right?
- 11:31So one of the things that readers need to know pretty quickly is what does the character that you're writing about, what do they want?
- 11:38And the reason that we need to know this, I'll give you a chance in a second to answer, the reason that we need to know this is because we want to connect with your character.
- 11:47And if we don't know why he's building the well, then it's much less interesting than if we do.
- 11:53So why is, why is this giant building the well?
- 11:56Do you know?
- 11:56Do you know, right, so the giant is building that well because the village is living between the desert and the savannah, so there's need of water.
- 12:07So there's a lot of, there's a lot of scarcity of water in that area.
- 12:11So the, the giant man used that idea to predict that world so that he can help and assist people together.
- 12:18So, so he's helping the village.
- 12:21It's not just for himself.
- 12:23Exactly.
- 12:25They kind of challenged him on this because, Muhammad, that's not here on your page.
- 12:29But it was really alive in his mind.
- 12:31And that's the whole point of Show Don't Tell, is making sure That what you want to say or what your readers need to know is actually on the page because it's alive in the reader or the writer's mind and Muhammad knew exactly what it was going to be and so he didn't feel like it was necessary to put it down or he just didn't know that it wasn't here.
- 12:52But it needs to be here.
- 12:53It needs to be here.
- 12:54And so, when we talked about this, the answer became really clear.
- 12:59The reason that we need to know what your character wants, this is true for every page or every scene that you write, okay?
- 13:08If you can't answer the question pretty quickly on the first page of your scene, what does my character want?
- 13:14Sometimes my clients say, they can hear my voice, like, Oh gosh, Susie's gonna ask me, I know she's gonna ask me, What does your character want?
- 13:23What does, what does Jeremy want?
- 13:25Because if the reader doesn't have this information, they're less invested, they're way less interested.
- 13:33In what's happening on your pages, so this is a great way to hook your readers, but it's also really important because otherwise all you have is a series of events.
- 13:42Every story is about a character's journey, a character's journey of change.
- 13:47Whether that's something really, really small or whether that's something huge is up to you as the writer.
- 13:53In literary books, many times the character change isn't as dramatic as maybe an action adventure like this.
- 14:00Um, this is intended to be.
- 14:02And so we need to know in this story what he wants to accomplish, because as readers, we can sit back then and watch all the events unfolding, and our mind is kind of doing a pros and cons list about whether or not they're succeeding.
- 14:17And when you create a scene, you want to be able to track, are they doing what they want to be doing, or are they not doing it?
- 14:27And either way is interesting, that's up to you as the writer.
- 14:31When you build a scene.
- 14:32There are only three ways to end a scene, really.
- 14:35You can have the character succeed, get what they wanted, get what their goals were in the scene, and that's awesome, except you don't want them to do that very often, because guess what happens when that happens?
- 14:50If your character succeeds, then the reader will be like, Sweet! They did it! They're done! Good! And they close the book and they go make a sandwich and they might not ever come back because they leave, you leave the character in a spot that's pretty good.
- 15:05They succeeded, right?
- 15:07Sometimes, they should succeed, and I'll caveat that in a second.
- 15:11The second way to end a scene?
- 15:13Your character fails.
- 15:14Wah, wah.
- 15:15Right?
- 15:16The character fails! They didn't accomplish it.
- 15:18Guess what?
- 15:19That's awesome.
- 15:20You want lots of failure in your book, because if you resolve things too quickly, your story is too short.
- 15:26So you want to have lots of failure in this case.
- 15:29I didn't only read one page, so I'll be interested for Muhammad to let us know what happens, but it looks like he succeeds in building the well.
- 15:38And so now I want to know what's next.
- 15:40Right?
- 15:40So one thing is when you have a character who succeeds.
- 15:45Then, you need to make sure that before they succeed, or before they get what they want in a scene, you open up another want before, not after.
- 15:55Because then, when they accomplish something, they have another goal already set up and the reader stays engaged.
- 16:03The third way that you can end a scene is by the character discovering something that will help them or send them on a quest.
- 16:10So if they discover a new piece of information that will help them solve the mystery that they're after or help them along the journey that they're going, their bigger want, their bigger desire, or their bigger goal for the entire book, then that is a great way also to end a scene.
- 16:27Okay.
- 16:27Thank you.
- 16:28Excellent.
- 16:29Excellent.
- 16:29What's your big dream, Mohamed?
- 16:31What's the big dream for this book?
- 16:32What do you hope it will do?
- 16:35Well, I want, I want to, I want the book to be the best African book in the next, in the next two years or in the next one year coming.
- 16:46Because, um, there's a lot of, there's a lot, a lot of, A lot of good writing inside the books and encouragement of new writers to write and encourage African writers to write a lot of fiction books.
- 16:59So I'm very, very proud of this book because I love it.
- 17:02I really, I used to read it.
- 17:05I used to read, I read it about three, four times a day.
- 17:09Every day before I go to sleep, I read this book.
- 17:12So I'm very happy to, to add, to add another idea you gave me to make the book very perfect.
- 17:19Thank you very much.
- 17:21You are so welcome.
- 17:22Amazing.
- 17:23Thank you so much for being open to the feedback.
- 17:26Sounds great.
- 17:26Good luck with that.
- 17:28I'm cheering you on, Mohamed.
- 17:29Thank you very much.
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