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Speaker 1: Kim is the report.
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Speaker 2: Well, good evening and welcome to the Vault Report.
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Speaker 3: I'm James Macpherson, Nigel Ferrag Savages, Anthony Albanezi as our
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Speaker 3: PM continues his proud tradition of isolating himself from people
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Speaker 3: he'll need in the future. More on that with Michael
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Speaker 3: Danby and John Anderson. The mind boggling extent of Chris
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Speaker 3: Bowen's renewable energy rollout has been revealed, and too bad
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Speaker 3: if you don't drive an EV there's a good chance
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Speaker 3: you'll be paying for EV charging stations anyway. Matt Canavan
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Speaker 3: will join me with the details. Shortly, we'll go to
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Speaker 3: America for an update on how Jimmy Kimmel's late night
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Speaker 3: TV return is going spoiler alert, It's not going well,
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Speaker 3: and our communications minister has come up with a novel
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Speaker 3: excuse as to why she seems to be dragging her
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Speaker 3: feet looking into the deadly optist Triple zero outed. As
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Speaker 3: told journalists, I'm new at my job. My panel are
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Speaker 3: going to have fun with that one. But first I
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Speaker 3: got to tell you I almost didn't get into the
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Speaker 3: studio tonight after being caught in a massive traffic jam
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Speaker 3: roads filled with thousands of pro Palestinian supporters urging Harmas
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Speaker 3: to accept Donald Trump's peace deal and end the genocide. Okay,
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Speaker 3: you know that's not true, and the fact you know
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Speaker 3: it's not true tells you everything.
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Speaker 2: The first thing that needs to.
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Speaker 3: Be said about Trump's bold plan to end the Gaza
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Speaker 3: conflict announced today is that it exposes the pro Palestinian
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Speaker 3: movement for what I've always suspected it to be. It's
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Speaker 3: an anti Israel movement rather than a peace movement. If
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Speaker 3: there really was a genocide occurring in Gaza, you'd expect
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Speaker 3: pro Palestinians to be rejoicing at Trump's plan, an immediate
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Speaker 3: cease fire, a phased withdrawal by Israel, humanitarian aid flooding
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Speaker 3: into the.
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Speaker 2: War torn region.
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Speaker 3: If the Palestinians experiencing a genocide, then surely this weekend
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Speaker 3: we should expect to see thousands marching across the Sydney
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Speaker 3: Harbor Bridge. Bob Carr will lead the conga lion and
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Speaker 3: Ed Husick will be firing confetti canons urging Hamas to
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Speaker 3: accept the peace deal.
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Speaker 2: Who knows.
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Speaker 3: Rather than carrying portraits of the Eyetola, the crowd may
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Speaker 3: even parade with images of Donald Trump. In appreciation for
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Speaker 3: convincing Israel to end the genocide. I can't believe I
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Speaker 3: said all of that with a straight face. I think
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Speaker 3: we know it won't happen. And isn't that damning. Green's
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Speaker 3: deputy leader Marine Ferruki posted this on Instagram after Trump's
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Speaker 3: peace plan was announced, with the caption Palestinians should deserve
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Speaker 3: determine their own future, not colonial powers. End the genocide,
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Speaker 3: sanction Israel, Free Palestine. So she wants an end to
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Speaker 3: the genocide, just not an end to the genocide like
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Speaker 3: the end to the genocide announced today.
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Speaker 2: You know, I've got some sympathy.
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Speaker 3: If the war stops, What will the deputy leader of
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Speaker 3: the Greens have to talk about. It's not like the
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Speaker 3: environment interests her or her colleagues these days. Speaking of which,
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Speaker 3: Senator Sarah Hanson Young said she was very concerned about
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Speaker 3: the peace plan and well, listen to this.
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Speaker 4: Donald Trump would like to be the king of the
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Speaker 4: world if he got his.
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Speaker 2: Way, That's her response.
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Speaker 3: Like they say, if Trump came up with a cure
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Speaker 3: for cancer, the Greens would accuse him of putting on
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Speaker 3: cologists out of work. I guess you have to admire
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Speaker 3: the Senator's single minded focus though, never let a Middle
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Speaker 3: East peace plan and lend the genocide and finally end
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Speaker 3: the suffering of Palestinians get in the way of hating
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Speaker 3: on Donald Trump.
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Speaker 2: She went on to say this.
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Speaker 4: It seems very clear to me that what is missing
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Speaker 4: at the heart of this is to stop the genocide
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Speaker 4: of innocent people and to protect the innocent lives of
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Speaker 4: children who have been bearing the brunt of this brutal.
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Speaker 2: This brutal war.
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Speaker 3: A stop to the brutal war isn't what's missing from
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Speaker 3: the plan.
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Speaker 2: It is the plan.
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Speaker 3: But not everything Senator Hanson Young said was inaccurate.
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Speaker 4: I'm, of course, not across all of the details of
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Speaker 4: the proposed arrangement.
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Speaker 3: That part of what she said today, that part that
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Speaker 3: was true. Of course, I'm not saying there isn't terrible
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Speaker 3: suffering in Gaza, but if there's mass starvation and the genocide,
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Speaker 3: then Hamas, not to mention, all those who support Palestine.
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Speaker 2: Would immediately embrace the deal.
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Speaker 3: Right if there was an actual genocide, as we've been
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Speaker 3: repeatedly told, pro Palestinian supporters would be screaming for Hamas,
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Speaker 3: except Trump's steal. Here's what happened outside the White House
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Speaker 3: right after Trump and net and Yahoo held out the
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Speaker 3: Olive Branch. Donald Trump had the leader of Israel standing
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Speaker 3: right beside him, offering an immediate end to hostilities, and
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Speaker 3: the crowd outside responded with long live the Interfata. If
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Speaker 3: the genocide doesn't end on our terms, we prefer it continues.
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Speaker 3: You can't make this stuff up unless everything we've heard
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Speaker 3: about a genocide for the past two years has been
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Speaker 3: a lie. Again, just to be clear, I'm not for
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Speaker 3: a moment saying there hasn't been tragic suffering in Gaza.
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Speaker 3: Of course there has, which is why if you care
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Speaker 3: about the Palestinians, and we all should, and the protesters
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Speaker 3: say they do, well, then you'd cheer for Trump's that
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Speaker 3: promises the immediate cessation of hostilities. Wouldn't you calling yourself
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Speaker 3: pro Palestinian while rejecting an American peace plan backed by
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Speaker 3: Arab and Muslim states.
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Speaker 2: Well, that's not solidarity.
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Speaker 3: It's heartless warmongering by people obsessed with fighting Israel to
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Speaker 3: the last dead Palestinian.
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Speaker 2: And here's another thing.
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Speaker 3: Numerous Arab states have thrown their support behind Trump's twenty
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Speaker 3: point peace plan.
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Speaker 5: Just say that my meetings and dialogue that we had
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Speaker 5: with so many countries, Saudi Arabia as an example, the
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Speaker 5: King as a phenomenal person, the Emir of Qatar, who
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Speaker 5: is an incredible people, the Prime Minister of Pakistan, and
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Speaker 5: from the field Marshal that they backed this one hundred percent.
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Speaker 5: President ELSSI of Egypt who's terrific.
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Speaker 3: So now it's the US, Israel, Qatar, Egypt, Pakistan, the
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Speaker 3: Saudis against Hamas, and a bunch of Western university art students.
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Speaker 3: Can you imagine Islamic states all supporting Trump's plan while
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Speaker 3: pro Palestinian supporters do not. But it's not only the
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Speaker 3: pro Palestinian supporters who are exposed by Trump's peace plan.
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Speaker 3: The plan, which offers a clear pathway for Hamas to surrender,
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Speaker 3: release hostages, and handover Gaza to an intram authority, shows
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Speaker 3: the utter emptiness of anti Albanese's grandstanding over recognizing a
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Speaker 3: Palestinian state.
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Speaker 6: We recognize the legitimate, unlong held aspirations of the people
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Speaker 6: of Palestine of a state of their own, and in
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Speaker 6: doing so, we reaffirm Australia's long standing position of two states,
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Speaker 6: the State of Israel and the State of Palestine.
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Speaker 3: That announcement may have earned our PM a round of
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Speaker 3: high fives at the United Nations, something he will no
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Speaker 3: doubt treasure forever, but made not a jot of difference
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Speaker 3: to the lives of Palestinians. Ironically, Albanize even made a
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Speaker 3: virtue of the fact that his government's decision to recognize
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Speaker 3: Palestine flew in the face of our American allies.
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Speaker 6: Our foreign policy isn't determined in Washington, or Beijing, or
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Speaker 6: Wellington for that matter.
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Speaker 3: Well, what a pity our foreign policy isn't determined more
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Speaker 3: closely with Washington. We could have been part of a
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Speaker 3: historic peace deal. That's not to say we didn't get
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Speaker 3: a mention.
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Speaker 5: Several countries have fool as you recognized the Palestinian state.
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Speaker 5: As you know, some of our European friends, our eyes,
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Speaker 5: good people, but they're really, i think doing that because
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Speaker 5: they're very tired of what's going on for so many decades.
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Speaker 3: So there you go, we did get a shout out
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Speaker 3: one of the foolish allies. Our government was using the
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Speaker 3: UN General Assembly as a platform to woo voters in
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Speaker 3: Western Sydney while the real piece work was being done
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Speaker 3: by the US time close ally of both Israel and
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Speaker 3: the United States.
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Speaker 2: We could have been part of the peace plan.
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Speaker 3: Instead, all we got was a selfie his Anthoni Albanesi
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Speaker 3: today saying he welcomed Trump's peace plan.
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Speaker 6: Australia welcomes President Trump's plan to bring peace to Gaza
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Speaker 6: after two years of conflict and a devastating loss of life.
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Speaker 3: It's the equivalent of turning up to a wedding uninvited
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Speaker 3: and then clapping along like you organized it. The statement
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Speaker 3: from Anti Albanzi only served to demonstrate just how far
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Speaker 3: away from the pulse of real world politics our student
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Speaker 3: activist leaders Anthony Albanezi, Pennywong and Tony Burke really are.
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Speaker 3: They've spent the past week doing a victory lap for
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Speaker 3: recognizer Palestinian state that doesn't exist, as if that actually
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Speaker 3: done something, and now welcome President Trump's actual plan that
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Speaker 3: offers actual peace. Now, who knows whether Hamas will accept
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Speaker 3: Trump deal, but anyone who cares about Israeli and Palestinian
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Speaker 3: lives should demand that they do. A Failure to do
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Speaker 3: so would expose from US for the terrorists they are.
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Speaker 3: And that's for pro Palestinian supporters. Well, it seems to
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Speaker 3: me that if you aren't desperately hopeful for this peace
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Speaker 3: deal to succeed. You're neither pro peace nor pro Palestinian,
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Speaker 3: and you're certainly not pro humanity. You're just anti Israel,
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Speaker 3: preferring dead Palestinians to letting Israel exist. Now, I'm sure
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Speaker 3: that's not the case. I look forward to pro Palestinian
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Speaker 3: marchers blocking the Melbourne and Sydney CBDs this weekend, chanting
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Speaker 3: thank you Donald Trump and waving peace signs. Oh wait, well,
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Speaker 3: joining me now is former Deputy Prime Minister John Anderson
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Speaker 3: and former Labor MP Michael Danby, who's on his way
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Speaker 3: home from Israel as we speak.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 3: Gentlemen, no Middle Peace plan is going to be perfect.
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Speaker 3: But John Anderson, anyone who cares about the hostages, about
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Speaker 3: Palestinian civilians, and indeed about the prospect of long term
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Speaker 3: peace should be praying this deal is accepted.
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Speaker 2: Should they not.
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Speaker 7: Absolutely, It's very hard to argue with that. The trouble is,
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Speaker 7: the whole debate is so distorted, I think by the
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Speaker 7: elephant in the room that has to be named, which
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Speaker 7: is the modern iteration of that most ancient of hatred,
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Speaker 7: anti Semitism.
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Speaker 3: Can you just expand on that a little more for me.
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Speaker 3: How do you think anti Semitism is playing into the
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Speaker 3: reception of Trump's peace plan?
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Speaker 7: Well, I think in terms of the debate that we've
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Speaker 7: seen in the mist, the marches on the Harbor Bridge,
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Speaker 7: the whole sort of atmosphere of recent times where truth
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Speaker 7: has been reversed. So Hamas has written into its charter
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Speaker 7: the obliteration of the Jewish people, that's called genocide. Israel
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Speaker 7: has been cleared of the charge of genocide by responsible
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Speaker 7: people all the way through, and yet the whole thing
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Speaker 7: is reversed. Why is it reversed because we want to believe, really,
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Speaker 7: somehow or other that we've got to find a respectable
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Speaker 7: cover for the fact that we're, particularly the left, we
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Speaker 7: are anti Semitic. I just don't think you can excuse
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Speaker 7: the obsession with what's going on here in the context
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Speaker 7: of all the other horror spots around the world where
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Speaker 7: nobody marches, where many more lives are and much more
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Speaker 7: suffering is evident. Horrendous is what is happening in Gaza.
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Speaker 7: But I also think it is beyond moral reckoning that
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Speaker 7: we are rewarding har Maas as terrorists. We're overlooking the
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Speaker 7: horrible reality that the Gazan people have rejected the two
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Speaker 7: state solution themselves when it's been offered to them. We
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Speaker 7: are overlooking the sheer brutal of October the seventh, the
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Speaker 7: beast reality of it, the absolutely sub human nature of
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Speaker 7: it that cannot be ignored. And I think we're overlooking
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Speaker 7: the reality. We just can't get away from this. I
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Speaker 7: understand that sixty percent of the Garden people still saying
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Speaker 7: now Hamas should not have to give up its weapons,
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Speaker 7: sixty percent. And I also cannot forget the fact that
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Speaker 7: you had gardens cheering in the streets after October the seventh,
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Speaker 7: as mutilated, dead young women were dragged through the streets.
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Speaker 7: Our moral compass on this has been severely compromised. We're
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Speaker 7: not thinking clearly. If we were thinking clearly, and of
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Speaker 7: course we would al say this along with most of
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Speaker 7: the surrounding and saying the Arab States, thank you President Trump,
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Speaker 7: thank you Blair for being part of this process, former
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Speaker 7: British Prime Minister, and let's make it work and stop.
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Speaker 7: I would have expected us as though there's something other
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Speaker 7: than a bunch of terrorists.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would have expected that to Michael Danby, you
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Speaker 3: heard what I said in the opening of the program,
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Speaker 3: what chance there will be mass protests this weekend with
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Speaker 3: people demanding Hamas accept the deal and end the genocide.
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Speaker 8: None, because there's total hypocrisy over this issue, as you
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Speaker 8: and your editorial and John just explained, there's something weird
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Speaker 8: in Western society that has forced virtue signaling by full
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Speaker 8: governments in particular Canada, Australia, France and the UK. The
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Speaker 8: Germans are not part of it, the Japanese are not
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Speaker 8: part of it. Singapore or even New Zealand disassociated themselves
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Speaker 8: from this unilateral recognition of a Palestinian state. But that's
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Speaker 8: done in order to signal to people in their electorates
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Speaker 8: in their countries. It's got nothing to do with the reality.
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Speaker 1: On the ground.
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Speaker 8: And here we have the bull elephant, Donald Trump, charging
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Speaker 8: through making real decisions and forcing change that if Hamas
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Speaker 8: releases all of the hostage in seventy two hours, as
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Speaker 8: they're forced to do, most Israelis and I've just come
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Speaker 8: from there, who are a bit war where it's a vital, positive,
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Speaker 8: economically growing society, they'll accept it. It's not what they
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Speaker 8: would have wanted to see that Hamas has kept out,
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Speaker 8: but if the agreement keeps us out, and this is
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Speaker 8: what Trump and Kushna Witkof have seemed to have established,
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Speaker 8: it's a win win for everyone, including the Palestinians, who
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Speaker 8: will get a clean government, will not have the corrupt
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Speaker 8: PA or the genocidal Hamas in charge of in charge
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Speaker 8: of them in Gaza.
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Speaker 2: It could be very good.
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Speaker 8: And Kushna and Witkoff and trumpet geniuses too, because what
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Speaker 8: they've done is they've undermined the permanent perpetuation of this
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Speaker 8: conflict with UNFIL and UNRA, both of them going to
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Speaker 8: be abolished. UNRA has no role. Australian government's stuffing it
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Speaker 8: with money still, but it's a useless organization. UDNFIL has
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Speaker 8: had its mandate, will be finished in a year's time.
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Speaker 8: So these organizations, these un organizations that have perpetuated the conflict,
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Speaker 8: the bull ill offense has run them over.
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Speaker 3: Well, we'll see whether this plan gets traction with Hamas
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Speaker 3: or not. They've not responded yet, but as you've both
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Speaker 3: pointed out, anybody who cares about Israeli lives and Palestinian
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Speaker 3: lives or to hope and pray that this peace deal
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Speaker 3: is accepted. It's an immediate cessation of hostilities, return of
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Speaker 3: hostages and humanitarian aid for those civilians caught up in
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Speaker 3: the conflict.
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Speaker 2: I want to talk about.
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Speaker 3: The Orchest deal for a moment so important to our
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Speaker 3: national defense. It seems like the deal will survive. There's
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Speaker 3: been widespread reports today that it passed a White House
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Speaker 3: review which was assessing whether or not it was consistent
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Speaker 3: with Trump's America First policy. His Deputy Prime Minister Richard
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Speaker 3: Marles's reaction to the news.
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Speaker 9: Aucus is happening. That's not in question. Aucus is the
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Speaker 9: subject of a trilateral treaty between Australia, the US and
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Speaker 9: the UK. We're very confident about the deal and we've
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Speaker 9: been saying that from all the way through John Anderson.
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Speaker 3: If reports are correct that the Orcas submarine deal will
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Speaker 3: go ahead, it seems to be the decision would be
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Speaker 3: in spite of the Albanesi government, not because of it.
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Speaker 7: The lack of commitment by the Alberanzi government, which tells
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Speaker 7: us these are the most dangerous time since the Second
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Speaker 7: World War they plainly are to defense, is absolutely palpable.
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Speaker 7: I don't think the Prime Minister has deeply invested in
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Speaker 7: defense at all, and maybe he should go back and
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Speaker 7: have a look at what happened. A little nation of
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Speaker 7: five million people was obvious big trouble was coming in
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Speaker 7: at nineteen oh seven and nineteen o nine on a
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Speaker 7: bipartisan basis, ordered up a navy, and they got it
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Speaker 7: five years later. Rad when he was Prime Minister, to
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Speaker 7: his credit in two thousand and nine, said we needed
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Speaker 7: twelve new state of the art submarines and Tomahawk missiles.
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Speaker 7: And here today we still have a deal which despite
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Speaker 7: the Deputy Prime Minister, the current Deputy Prime ministers assurances,
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Speaker 7: looks as though it lacks commitment from our side. Where
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Speaker 7: is the commitment to the basis, Where is the hustle
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Speaker 7: and where is the willingness to recognize we've got to
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Speaker 7: stop compromising our current capability to pay for Orcus, because
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Speaker 7: we're spending roughly two percent on defense. If you take
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Speaker 7: out the point seven percent or so of it that's
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Speaker 7: going to Orcus. In terms of today's capabilities, mine is
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Speaker 7: the submarines, we're at about one point three. We have
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Speaker 7: no capacity to sweep minds from our ports as a
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Speaker 7: trading nation if mines were laid by an enemy. We
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Speaker 7: have no missile defense for our defense installations, let alone
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Speaker 7: our citizens. We have no real swarming capacity, no drones,
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Speaker 7: all the things have been shown to be necessary in
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Speaker 7: the Ukrainian conflict. Nor do we have the stock paths
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Speaker 7: of things like chemicals, diesel, fertilizer that people like me
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Speaker 7: and my family need to keep the country fed if
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Speaker 7: something goes wrong.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and John, you make a great point when the
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Speaker 3: Albaneze he goes to meet with Trump in a couple
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Speaker 3: of weeks. I guess in one sense Albaneze will be
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Speaker 3: relieved if the orchesteel is put to bed before he
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Speaker 3: meets with Trump. But he shouldn't expect Trump to be
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Speaker 3: impressed because, as John's just point out, Michael, the Albanize
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Speaker 3: government's commitment to defense spending isn't exactly impressive, is it.
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Speaker 1: No, it's not.
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Speaker 8: You and John are right. This used to be non partisan.
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Speaker 8: The then dominant labor right, the Beesleys, the Hawks, et cetera,
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Speaker 8: would never have let the money being spent on the
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Speaker 8: submarines be taken out of our existing defense forces.
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Speaker 2: And we're just lucky.
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Speaker 8: We're a lucky country. We've got pine gap that the
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Speaker 8: Americans need for over the horizon, looking at nuclear missile launchers,
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Speaker 8: in Russia and China. We've got the submarine base at Sterling,
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Speaker 8: and we've got all of those vital airbases across the North.
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Speaker 8: The Americans need us as their unsinkable carrier in the
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Speaker 8: South Pacific as we were facing the Japanese in the
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Speaker 8: Second World War at this time facing China. But pure
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Speaker 8: dumb luck, these guys are not sort of doing the
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Speaker 8: heavy lifting that they should be. And you know the
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Speaker 8: fact that we demobilize three mechanized battalions in order to
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Speaker 8: pay on the nevernever these submarines is just there's a
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Speaker 8: Jewish word for it.
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Speaker 2: My sugar, crazy, my sugar. I'll have to remember that
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Speaker 2: one will come in handy.
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Speaker 3: Speaking of crazy, Nigel Ferraj, he's not crazy, but he's
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Speaker 3: lashed out as someone who is Anthony Albanzi After elbow
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Speaker 3: U is the UK Labor Conference to accuse the reform
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Speaker 3: leader of peddling the politics of division and grievance, Farage
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Speaker 3: said of our prime minister, who incidentally refused to meet
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Speaker 3: him while in the UK. Quote, he's totally out of
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Speaker 3: touch with the huge changes in the UK and everywhere
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Speaker 3: else in the West. John, as viewers would be aware,
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Speaker 3: Farage is every chance to be the next British Prime minister.
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Speaker 3: Is it arrogance or foolishness that leads Elbinezi to smear
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Speaker 3: the very people he may need help from in the future.
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Speaker 3: He did it with the US President, now he's done
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Speaker 3: it with Farage.
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Speaker 7: This is a really serious issue. Our Prime minister went
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Speaker 7: to the British Labor conference and insisted that he and
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Speaker 7: his ilk on the progressive side of politics are committed
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Speaker 7: to democracy. Well, how about a bit of respect for
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Speaker 7: British voters who are so utterly unimpressed with the current
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Speaker 7: Labor government and with its predecessors, which were conservative and
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Speaker 7: name only. They were shocking. They sold the country down
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Speaker 7: the drain. The current government is presiding over such a
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Speaker 7: mess that people are talking about the need for another
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Speaker 7: IMF bailout. The people are plainly saying there's a real
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Speaker 7: problem here and you're not prepared to talk to the
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Speaker 7: person they're looking to who may be their leader. Give
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Speaker 7: us a break. If you're serious about democracy, then respect
22:17
Speaker 7: the fact that people are plainly sending very powerful messages
22:21
Speaker 7: by every means that they can, and be careful lest
22:25
Speaker 7: you get a real breakout. In Australia, I don't think
22:27
Speaker 7: you can rule that out now. I think I meet
22:29
Speaker 7: Australians everywhere who are shaking their heads with dismay at
22:34
Speaker 7: the structural decline that Australia is now almost baking in
22:41
Speaker 7: the fastest collapsing living standards in the OECD.
22:46
Speaker 3: You make a great point, John, and of course we
22:48
Speaker 3: risk a rerun of what we've seen between alban Ezi
22:50
Speaker 3: and Trump. If Farage goes into number ten, that will
22:55
Speaker 3: go through this process where Albanesi is trying to re
22:58
Speaker 3: establish a relationship that should have been built already. And
23:01
Speaker 3: so it looks like we're going to see a repeat of,
23:03
Speaker 3: as I said, what we've seen with Trump. John Anderson
23:05
Speaker 3: and Michael Danby, thanks for joining me tonight. We're going
23:09
Speaker 3: to go to a break, but stick around because when
23:11
Speaker 3: we come back, the eyewatering scale of Australia's renewable rollout
23:15
Speaker 3: has been revealed. You want to hold onto your hats
23:18
Speaker 3: for that one, and maybe keep your wallet close too.
23:21
Speaker 3: Speaking of which, fiscal discipline seems to be dead under
23:24
Speaker 3: this PM. The opposition says the government has a spending problem,
23:27
Speaker 3: and I don't think they're wrong.
23:29
Speaker 2: Matt Canavan will join me in a moment.
23:35
Speaker 3: Well, Australia is embarking on the largest game of SimCity
23:38
Speaker 3: Green edition ever attempted, only without a mayor, a plan,
23:42
Speaker 3: or the faintest clue. The scale of this government's renewables
23:46
Speaker 3: fantasy has been revealed and I've got to tell you
23:48
Speaker 3: it is staggering. There are currently more than one thousand
23:52
Speaker 3: projects being rolled out across the country at a cost
23:55
Speaker 3: of one point three to three trillion dollars. So yes,
23:59
Speaker 3: the future is not from the energy, but from all
24:02
Speaker 3: the money our governments flushing straight down the eco toilet.
24:05
Speaker 3: We're talking twenty five thousand more wind towers, forty five
24:09
Speaker 3: thousand kilometers of roads to reach them, and two hundred
24:12
Speaker 3: and fifty million solar panels plastered across four hundred and
24:16
Speaker 3: six thousand hectares, all without so much as a budget
24:19
Speaker 3: spreadsheet or even a map. Chris Bowen is rolling out
24:22
Speaker 3: wind turbines like Oprah, are giving away cars. You get
24:25
Speaker 3: a tower, You get a tower, except instead of applause,
24:29
Speaker 3: well there's just the sound of farmers muttering and birds
24:32
Speaker 3: falling out of the sky. Even the data exposing this
24:35
Speaker 3: fiasco wasn't collected by the government, who are covering the
24:38
Speaker 3: Australian landscape ad hoc. The data was compiled by volunteers
24:43
Speaker 3: Queensland conservationist Stephen Nolkowski and Rainforest Reserves Australia. They're going
24:49
Speaker 3: to put it all on their website for Australians to
24:51
Speaker 3: see for themselves next week. Joining me now is National
24:54
Speaker 3: Senator Matt Canavan.
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Speaker 2: Matt, I think.
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Speaker 3: Most Australians will be absolutely shocked at the scale, not
25:01
Speaker 3: to mention the cost of these projects.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, it's very very concerning.
25:09
Speaker 10: It's also disappointing that a private group has had to
25:12
Speaker 10: do this work. You would think that a government agency
25:15
Speaker 10: would be tasked with mapping how much of our beautiful
25:18
Speaker 10: Australian bush land is going to be destroyed by their
25:21
Speaker 10: plan to go to a ridiculous eighty two percent renewables
25:24
Speaker 10: by twenty thirty. Instead, it's been left to some committed individuals,
25:28
Speaker 10: particularly a gentleman called Stephen now Akowski. Now Stephen has
25:32
Speaker 10: previously run for the Greens political party, therefore a political
25:36
Speaker 10: opponent's of mine at previous elections. But I've got to
25:38
Speaker 10: know him very well. He's a fantastic Australian, loves the
25:41
Speaker 10: Australian bush as we all do, as many of us do.
25:45
Speaker 10: It's just that that bush land is now being run over,
25:48
Speaker 10: run over, roughshod in a desperate attempt to meet artificial
25:53
Speaker 10: targets that are not lowering power prices for Australians. All
25:56
Speaker 10: they are doing, is you were saying, is making a
25:58
Speaker 10: lot of money for off an international, foreign owned firms
26:01
Speaker 10: on the back of those higher power prices we.
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Speaker 1: All have to pay. Now, these maps are extraordinaries.
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Speaker 10: You've outlined the current amount of solar wind projects taking
26:09
Speaker 10: up an area the size of Sydney.
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Speaker 1: But this is just for starters.
26:12
Speaker 10: What Steven's done is just the map for projects that
26:16
Speaker 10: are in train right now, that are going through approval processes,
26:19
Speaker 10: that are under construction, et cetera. To reach net zero
26:22
Speaker 10: the thing we call her about net zero, there were
26:25
Speaker 10: some academics from a pro pro net zero academics who
26:28
Speaker 10: calculated that we'd actually need we would need to blanket
26:31
Speaker 10: our countryside with two times the size of Tasmania, almost
26:35
Speaker 10: two times the size of Tasmania in solar and wind
26:38
Speaker 10: to reach net zero two times the size of Tasmania,
26:42
Speaker 10: and then another Tasmania would be needed to reforest, to
26:46
Speaker 10: grow trees on previous agricultural land to offset what emissions
26:49
Speaker 10: we have to meet their net part of the net zero.
26:51
Speaker 10: This is insane. It is absolutely insane, and it's not
26:54
Speaker 10: just an economic catastrophe. Now there is an environmental catastroph
26:58
Speaker 10: for our nation. We destroy our bush land, we kill
27:00
Speaker 10: these birds, we kill these koalas, they don't come back.
27:03
Speaker 10: We shouldn't be doing this, and I didn't get into
27:05
Speaker 10: politics to throw on a koala suit and do this,
27:08
Speaker 10: But by god, I'm not going to sit by and
27:11
Speaker 10: let our beautiful bushland by destroy be destroyed by these
27:13
Speaker 10: people who are just chasing money.
27:17
Speaker 3: So Matt these facts and figures, the maps that are
27:21
Speaker 3: going to be provided to the public. This is all
27:23
Speaker 3: incredibly important. I guess if the public really understood the
27:27
Speaker 3: scale and the cost, it make nuclear power look like
27:30
Speaker 3: a bargain, wouldn't.
27:31
Speaker 10: It look I think it's exactly right. I mean, wind
27:36
Speaker 10: and solar take up so much more land than a
27:39
Speaker 10: nuclear power station than even a coal fired power station.
27:42
Speaker 10: And that's why traditionally, over time energy systems have become
27:46
Speaker 10: what's known as more dense. You go to power systems
27:50
Speaker 10: that take up less footprint on the earth. You do
27:52
Speaker 10: that obviously for environmental reason, there's also good economic reason
27:55
Speaker 10: to do that, because when you need less land, it's
27:58
Speaker 10: normally less costly as well. And what we're finding out
28:00
Speaker 10: with these renewable projects is it's going to be a
28:02
Speaker 10: lot more costly than we expect because understandably, people don't
28:06
Speaker 10: want to live next to two hundred and.
28:08
Speaker 1: Eighty meter towers.
28:10
Speaker 10: Two hundred and eighty meters, these are as large as
28:12
Speaker 10: the skyscrapers in our major cities. There's a reason why
28:16
Speaker 10: Zali Stegel doesn't want these things off the shore of Manly,
28:19
Speaker 10: and likewise no one wants the next to their house either.
28:22
Speaker 10: And so what's happened now happening is you're going to
28:24
Speaker 10: have to compensate those people as well. That will be
28:26
Speaker 10: another cost added on to power bills if it does
28:30
Speaker 10: ever happen. But as you say, why don't we just
28:32
Speaker 10: have got these other technologies like nuclear, which wouldn't require
28:35
Speaker 10: all this cost, which wouldn't have all this heartache which
28:38
Speaker 10: people in the bush, and most importantly wouldn't kill our
28:42
Speaker 10: beautiful native critters that are indigenous to this.
28:45
Speaker 3: Land, Which then begs the question, why is the coalition
28:49
Speaker 3: dilly deallying in terms of getting out on the front
28:52
Speaker 3: foot and absolutely prosecuting this case.
28:55
Speaker 2: I guess we'll have to wait for that. A few
28:59
Speaker 2: colin recommend.
29:01
Speaker 1: It's for you. Yeah, we're getting there. We're getting there.
29:04
Speaker 2: I know you're doing a great job. Matter.
29:06
Speaker 3: It would just be great if the leader of the
29:07
Speaker 3: coalition was leading the charge.
29:09
Speaker 2: I want to ask you about EV chargers. There's a
29:13
Speaker 2: good segue.
29:14
Speaker 3: New South Wales taxpayers could be slugged for EV charges
29:16
Speaker 3: whether or not they drive an EV.
29:18
Speaker 2: The government's pushing.
29:20
Speaker 3: For electricity providers to roll out more charging stations, but
29:23
Speaker 3: the providers are saying we don't want to do it
29:25
Speaker 3: without an upfront investment of one hundred and thirty five
29:28
Speaker 3: million dollars from taxpayers or permission to recoup the money
29:32
Speaker 3: through higher electricity bills. So those of us who drive
29:36
Speaker 3: non evs are going to be hit twice. We pay
29:38
Speaker 3: a fuel excise that EV owners don't, and now we're
29:41
Speaker 3: going to be paying for EV chargers.
29:44
Speaker 10: Well, look, I've got no problem people who want to
29:46
Speaker 10: drive an electric vehicle, go for your life. I just
29:48
Speaker 10: don't think other people should pay for you to have
29:51
Speaker 10: to do that. I mean, I've read a lot of
29:53
Speaker 10: history in my time, and I can't remember the government
29:56
Speaker 10: having to subsidize petrol stations to help enery Forward sell
30:00
Speaker 10: more model t forwards. Right, people bought them because they're
30:04
Speaker 10: a better product, and they paid to fill them up
30:07
Speaker 10: because it was such an amazing invention. The problem here
30:10
Speaker 10: with electric vehicles is there require so much gover and cash.
30:13
Speaker 10: And to put these figures into context, now you're talking
30:15
Speaker 10: about the extra hundreds of millions needed here for electric
30:18
Speaker 10: charges were already now the cost of the fringe benefit
30:22
Speaker 10: tax exemption we provide electric vehicles is over five hundred
30:25
Speaker 10: million dollars, just five hundred and sixty one million dollars.
30:27
Speaker 10: He add on the EV charge sub subsites as well.
30:30
Speaker 10: You're getting very close. Now get this, You're getting very
30:32
Speaker 10: close to the amount of money it costs the Australian
30:34
Speaker 10: government to subsidize the Australian car industry.
30:37
Speaker 1: In its last year of operation.
30:38
Speaker 10: We spent seven hundred million dollars on that assistance in
30:41
Speaker 10: its last year of operation.
30:44
Speaker 1: So the question is we asked, is this a good deal?
30:46
Speaker 10: This is a good deal for our country that we
30:48
Speaker 10: went from making cars that people wanted to buy and
30:52
Speaker 10: gave us pride that we could actually.
30:54
Speaker 1: Build something as country.
30:55
Speaker 10: We had therefore skills as well that would help us
30:57
Speaker 10: if we ever needed them in a defense crisis. And
31:01
Speaker 10: now we've gone to actually subsidizing by almost the same
31:03
Speaker 10: amount to cars that rich people buy, and that invariably
31:08
Speaker 10: that all of them are made overseas, many of them
31:09
Speaker 10: now made in China that apparently have proposed strict security.
31:12
Speaker 1: Red to us.
31:13
Speaker 10: It's a really what a terrible trade, what a terrible
31:16
Speaker 10: trade offer we've done to this country in the last decade.
31:20
Speaker 3: Matt Canavan, you are not wrong, not wrong at all.
31:23
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining me tonight. We're going to go to
31:26
Speaker 3: a break more on Donald Trump's Middle East peace plan
31:29
Speaker 3: in a moment, and Jimmy Kimmel has returned to late
31:31
Speaker 3: night TV, but his viewers haven't. I'll talk to Sean
31:34
Speaker 3: Spice and next.
31:38
Speaker 4: Well.
31:39
Speaker 3: US President Donald Trump has outlined a twenty point peace
31:42
Speaker 3: plan that would see him at the chair of a
31:44
Speaker 3: governing authority over Gaza. In the joint press conference with
31:48
Speaker 3: Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Nett and Yahoo, Trump said the
31:51
Speaker 3: proposal had been agreed by everyone except Hamas and if
31:54
Speaker 3: Hamas refuses to come to the table. The US would
31:57
Speaker 3: back Israel to do whatever they needed to do.
32:01
Speaker 5: If the Master rejects the deal, which is always possible,
32:04
Speaker 5: they're the only one left. Everyone else has accepted it.
32:08
Speaker 5: But I have a feeling that we're going to have
32:10
Speaker 5: a positive answer. But if not, as you know, bybe,
32:14
Speaker 5: you'd have Marfu backing to do what you would have
32:18
Speaker 5: to do.
32:20
Speaker 3: The plan means an immediate end to the war and
32:22
Speaker 3: the return of Israeli hostages within seventy two hours. Here's
32:26
Speaker 3: some of what Benjamin Nett and Yahoo had to say.
32:29
Speaker 11: This can be done the easy way, or it can
32:33
Speaker 11: be done the hard way, but it will be done.
32:38
Speaker 11: We prefer the easy way, but it has to be done.
32:42
Speaker 11: All these goals must be achieved because we didn't fight
32:47
Speaker 11: this horrible fight, sacrifice the finest of our young men,
32:52
Speaker 11: to have Hamas stay in Gaza and threaten us again
32:55
Speaker 11: and again and again with these horrific massacres.
33:00
Speaker 3: Joining me now is former White House Press Secretary Sean Spice.
33:03
Speaker 3: Is Sean, welcome to the program. Can you just run
33:06
Speaker 3: us through the key parts of Donald Trump's peace plan?
33:10
Speaker 12: Well, look, I think the key thing that you stated
33:12
Speaker 12: there is the US involvement, that the US is going
33:15
Speaker 12: to play a pivotal role in overseeing this thing. That
33:18
Speaker 12: to me is the biggest and only part that matters,
33:21
Speaker 12: because it shows the US leadership will be a continued
33:24
Speaker 12: part of this. And by getting Israel on board, there
33:27
Speaker 12: was some question at least among the chattering class in
33:31
Speaker 12: the US whether Prime Minister net and Yahoo would agree
33:34
Speaker 12: to these terms. But it shows more than anything Donald
33:36
Speaker 12: Trump's leadership in this area, his commitment to the area,
33:40
Speaker 12: and it really puts Hamas in the corner if they.
33:43
Speaker 13: Don't agree to this.
33:44
Speaker 12: As Donald Trump said, they have really isolated themselves number
33:48
Speaker 12: one and number two. Clearly the green light has been
33:51
Speaker 12: given to Israel to move forward under whatever means they
33:55
Speaker 12: think is appropriate to settle this dispute.
34:00
Speaker 3: Well, as you say, it does put Hamas in a
34:03
Speaker 3: bit of a corner because this plan has been agreed
34:06
Speaker 3: to by Arab states. So if a mass reject the plan,
34:09
Speaker 3: they do really isolate themselves pretty much from everybody.
34:14
Speaker 13: They do.
34:15
Speaker 12: And that's the beauty of this is that it's one
34:17
Speaker 12: thing to go it alone or to have Israel on board.
34:21
Speaker 13: But he really did.
34:22
Speaker 12: I got to say, you got to give President Trump
34:24
Speaker 12: a lot of credit for how he's handling these foreign wars,
34:27
Speaker 12: really focusing on peace.
34:29
Speaker 13: This one was the big one.
34:30
Speaker 12: I know a lot of people focus on Russia and Ukraine,
34:33
Speaker 12: but if they can achieve peace in this area, this
34:35
Speaker 12: is something that has gone on for decades, and I
34:38
Speaker 12: think that President Trump has really shown that sometimes thinking
34:42
Speaker 12: outside the box and not recycling the same old policy
34:45
Speaker 12: prescriptions is kind of warranted.
34:48
Speaker 13: And I give him a lot of credit.
34:49
Speaker 12: To your point, He's gotten all the parties at the table,
34:51
Speaker 12: He's got them all on board. I do feel like
34:54
Speaker 12: it would be insane if Hamas were to say no
34:57
Speaker 12: to this.
35:00
Speaker 3: And in typical Trump's style, he said that this could
35:03
Speaker 3: bring peace for eternity, which I think is probably a
35:06
Speaker 3: little overly optimistic.
35:08
Speaker 2: But anyway, the plan would.
35:10
Speaker 12: Have you guys, I mean, you rarely ever hear him
35:12
Speaker 12: use you rarely hear him use hyperbole or exaggerate, so
35:16
Speaker 12: you know, maybe just this once.
35:20
Speaker 3: He's not prone to exaggeration at all. The plan, as
35:24
Speaker 3: you said, would involve the United States. As I understand it,
35:28
Speaker 3: Gaza would be administrated by a committee of Palestinians, but
35:32
Speaker 3: overseen by a Board of Peace whose members would include
35:36
Speaker 3: Donald Trump and Tony Blair. Do we know any more
35:40
Speaker 3: about how that would actually work in practice.
35:44
Speaker 12: I think a lot of the details are slowly goingd
35:46
Speaker 12: of come out over the next few days. I think
35:48
Speaker 12: they at least My understanding is that the goal is
35:50
Speaker 12: to get agreement in principle and then kind of continue
35:54
Speaker 12: to flush out the details with the parties. But so far,
35:58
Speaker 12: I think that it's very reasonable. As you said, you know,
36:01
Speaker 12: you've got the right people on board so far, and
36:03
Speaker 12: I don't think that anybody's done anything that would that
36:06
Speaker 12: would push someone away in this case Amass. So I
36:10
Speaker 12: feel like this is smart, it's reasonable, it's outside the box.
36:13
Speaker 12: It's something that hasn't been thought of before. So there's
36:16
Speaker 12: really a I mean, I again, as I said, I
36:18
Speaker 12: get that, you know, for your viewers, I'm a Trump supporter,
36:22
Speaker 12: but it's this kind of outside the box thinking on
36:24
Speaker 12: so many different things where Trump shows that he's not
36:27
Speaker 12: just the same old, same old politician that's retrying to
36:31
Speaker 12: do the same thing over and over again hoping for
36:33
Speaker 12: a different outcome.
36:36
Speaker 2: That's a very good point.
36:37
Speaker 3: Well, while Donald Trump is busy sorting out problems in
36:40
Speaker 3: the Middle East, it's not as if he doesn't have
36:41
Speaker 3: plenty of problems at home sewn. A government shutdown is
36:46
Speaker 3: on the cards. Can you explain to Australian viewers what
36:49
Speaker 3: a shutdown is and what it means for people in
36:52
Speaker 3: the US.
36:54
Speaker 13: Well, here's the deal. It's a mess.
36:56
Speaker 12: It means that we stop operating minus essential service. Essential
37:00
Speaker 12: services are social security checks, air traffic control, active duty troops,
37:07
Speaker 12: things that are essential to us functioning as a government.
37:09
Speaker 12: But you know, like a national park wouldn't be essential
37:13
Speaker 12: the ticket, like folks at a museum or a federal thing,
37:18
Speaker 12: those wouldn't be. Low level staffers as a department or
37:22
Speaker 12: agency wouldn't be. So it's basically only the people that
37:25
Speaker 12: are essential for our national security or to keep the
37:28
Speaker 12: government running. And by the way, those people don't get paid.
37:33
Speaker 12: They use historically they always get paid back, James, but
37:36
Speaker 12: while they're working, they don't get paid. So we have
37:39
Speaker 12: twelve appropriations bills that fund our government. So you have military, veterans, transportation,
37:45
Speaker 12: legislative brands.
37:45
Speaker 13: There's one that does the courts. None of them. None
37:48
Speaker 13: of the twelve have passed Congress.
37:50
Speaker 12: So this will be a full government shutdown now, Just
37:53
Speaker 12: so your viewers understand this. What the Republican House passed
37:57
Speaker 12: and it's over in the Senate is what we call.
37:59
Speaker 13: A clean continuing resolution.
38:01
Speaker 12: You'll hear the word or the phrase CR that's continuing resolution.
38:05
Speaker 13: That means that for the next.
38:06
Speaker 12: Seven weeks, it'll fund the government as is, no changes
38:10
Speaker 12: to policy, to funding, whatever is locked in counts. And
38:14
Speaker 12: what the Democrats, despite them voting thirteen times in the
38:17
Speaker 12: past for a continuing, straight up continuing resolution, are now
38:20
Speaker 12: demanding over a trillion dollars in new spending. So, by
38:23
Speaker 12: the way, in March, when we had a similar issue,
38:25
Speaker 12: Chuck Schumer voted for exactly what's on the table now,
38:28
Speaker 12: a continuing resolution. So this is going to put Democrats
38:32
Speaker 12: in a box. It'll shut them, shut the government down.
38:35
Speaker 12: I have a feeling that we'll find some kind of
38:37
Speaker 12: you know. And by the way, all that's trying to
38:39
Speaker 12: happen is to buy more time for those twelve bills
38:43
Speaker 12: to pass to fund the government. So that's what we're
38:46
Speaker 12: dealing with now, is a bill to just fund the
38:48
Speaker 12: government for seven weeks so that the two houses of
38:52
Speaker 12: our Congress can hopefully come to agreement on those areas
38:56
Speaker 12: to fund the respective parts of our government.
39:01
Speaker 3: All right, well, that misses happening in Washington. Let's go
39:04
Speaker 3: to New York, where the man favored to be the
39:06
Speaker 3: next mayor is proposing to spend one hundred million dollars
39:10
Speaker 3: not to fill potholes or to make sure garbage is collected,
39:14
Speaker 3: but to defend illegal migrants.
39:19
Speaker 14: Yeah.
39:19
Speaker 12: Well, I mean, look, this is insane. I got to
39:23
Speaker 12: be honest with you, this race is over. In my mind,
39:26
Speaker 12: Zorhan Mandami will be the next mayor of New York.
39:29
Speaker 12: I believe the people of New York need to live
39:32
Speaker 12: with these consequences. They want somebody who wants everything to
39:35
Speaker 12: be free, grocery stores to be taken over and run
39:37
Speaker 12: by the government. He is a socialist, and the people
39:41
Speaker 12: of New York had an opportunity to decide who they
39:44
Speaker 12: wanted to govern them.
39:45
Speaker 13: They had several choices.
39:46
Speaker 12: This is who they've chosen twice now in the Democratic primary,
39:50
Speaker 12: and then they'll choose it again in the general election.
39:52
Speaker 12: And there's really no way that he isn't going to
39:54
Speaker 12: win at this point, to be straight with you, So
39:57
Speaker 12: I put this on the people of New York. America
39:59
Speaker 12: is the land of everybody gets to have their voice heard,
40:04
Speaker 12: their vote heard, and the people in New York have
40:06
Speaker 12: chosen to go in this crazy, crazy leftist way. And
40:09
Speaker 12: these are some of the policies that we can expect
40:11
Speaker 12: over the next few years.
40:14
Speaker 2: Absolutely shocking.
40:15
Speaker 3: Just before I let you go, Sean late night TV
40:17
Speaker 3: host Jimmy Kimmel is back on TV after being suspended
40:20
Speaker 3: over remarks he made in the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination.
40:24
Speaker 3: But while Kimmel has returned his viewers of not ratings
40:28
Speaker 3: from his show last week show were staggering sixty four
40:30
Speaker 3: percent drop in viewers.
40:32
Speaker 2: What do we read into that.
40:35
Speaker 12: Well, there's two things, James, just to be clear on
40:37
Speaker 12: the viewership, A lot of people not me. I go
40:40
Speaker 12: to bed way too early, but I think a lot
40:42
Speaker 12: of people stayed up the night.
40:43
Speaker 13: He returned to find out what he was going to say.
40:46
Speaker 12: There was a lot of interest, I think to find
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Speaker 12: out if he actually apologized. But I would say this
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Speaker 12: on the second piece of this. Remember he went silent.
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Speaker 13: He lied to the American people.
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Speaker 12: He lied about this assassin, claiming that he was part
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Speaker 12: of the MAGA movement, which is unequivocally a falsehood. And
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Speaker 12: instead of apologizing for it on any of the days
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Speaker 12: in which he was off air, he chose to stay silent.
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Speaker 12: He gets back on air and then still doesn't apologize.
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Speaker 13: ABC said that his joke was ill timed. It wasn't
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Speaker 13: ill timed.
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Speaker 2: It was a lie.
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Speaker 12: It was wrong, and it doesn't matter when it was given,
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Speaker 12: what time it was given. But this just shows you
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Speaker 12: that the people, most of the elite Hollywood types in
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Speaker 12: America are more concerned with whether Jimmy Kimmel will be
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Speaker 12: on air than whether or not Charlie Kirk was assassinated.
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Speaker 13: It's a sad state for the left in this country.
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Speaker 3: Indeed, Sewn Spice are always good to catch up. Thanks
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Speaker 3: for being on the program tonight.
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Speaker 13: You bet, James, thank you for having me.
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Speaker 2: After the break.
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Speaker 3: One state decides to write to all four million dollars
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Speaker 3: in unpaid COVID fines in our communications minister says.
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Speaker 2: She deserves some slack because she's knew at the job.
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Speaker 2: My paneler up next.
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Speaker 3: Well, the Queensland government has written off up to four
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Speaker 3: million dollars worth of COVID nineteen fines years after they
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Speaker 3: were issued. More than four thousand infringements were referred to
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Speaker 3: the state penalties Enforcement Registry.
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Speaker 2: That was during the pandemic.
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Speaker 3: With more than half of them now being written off,
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Speaker 3: the government's determined it's time to move on and finalize
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Speaker 3: outstanding matters.
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Speaker 2: That was a quote from the government.
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Speaker 3: Now compare and contrast that with Victoria, where authorities are
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Speaker 3: still chasing twenty thousand unpaid COVID fines. Joining me now
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Speaker 3: a Sky News contributors Will Kingston and Joe Hildebrand Joe,
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Speaker 3: no one gets out of Victoria alive.
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Speaker 7: No, that's right, And.
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Speaker 14: They can't get out anyway because they'd be slugged with
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Speaker 14: a bunch of property taxes and their houses aren't worth
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Speaker 14: anything so they couldn't sell them. But I think this
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Speaker 14: is a good move for Queensland, although you would wonder
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Speaker 14: what the people who actually diligently paid their fines would
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Speaker 14: feel about that. In New South Wales, I believe they've
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Speaker 14: actually forgiven fines and repaid from those who did actually
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Speaker 14: pay the fines. But the COVID madness we now know
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Speaker 14: was actually madness. We've had Victoria's former Chief Health Officer,
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Speaker 14: Brett Sutton, admit that a lot of the decisions probably
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Speaker 14: didn't actually do anything and were not based on any evidence,
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Speaker 14: So it's an absolute fiasco. There are a few of
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Speaker 14: us who were calling it out from the beginning and
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Speaker 14: it's good to see that belatedly at least some common
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Speaker 14: sense is prevailing.
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Speaker 3: Well, Joe, you've anticipated what I wanted to put to
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Speaker 3: Will Kingston, because Will, bearing in mind as Joe said,
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Speaker 3: the former Victoria Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton, admitted recently
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Speaker 3: that much of the advice was based on gut feelings
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Speaker 3: rather than data. Writing off outstanding fines is the least
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Speaker 3: the government could do at this point.
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Speaker 15: Yes, of course it is. That would be common sense.
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Speaker 15: But the problem is, James, that the lessons still haven't
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Speaker 15: been learnt from COVID. I was reflecting on this when
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Speaker 15: I saw the topics come through this morning, particularly the
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Speaker 15: lesson around government overreach and the suppression of individual freedoms.
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Speaker 15: Over Here in the UK they are racing towards digital ID.
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Speaker 15: Australia will follow suit. There's also the increasing overreach of
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Speaker 15: suppression of speech online. Governments now are more and more
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Speaker 15: willing to be able to take your freedoms away because
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Speaker 15: we haven't learnt those dark lessons from the COVID period.
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Speaker 15: So these fines whilst being a relatively small issue should
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Speaker 15: reveal a deeper truth, and that is that people need
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Speaker 15: to push back against this sort of creeping government authoritarianism
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Speaker 15: in a way quite frankly Australians didn't do enough of
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Speaker 15: during COVID.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, very well, said all right.
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Speaker 3: Communications Minister Anika Wells is starting to feel the heat
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Speaker 3: over Optus Triple zero outages that have been.
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Speaker 2: Linked to at least three deaths.
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Speaker 3: She's only just sat down with Optis boss Stephen Rue
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Speaker 3: to demand answers nearly two weeks after the first outage.
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Speaker 3: Asked why the investigation into what occurred was taking so long,
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Speaker 3: Well she replied with this.
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Speaker 16: I'm still a new minister to the industry, so I
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Speaker 16: would say I'm listening to everybody at the moment, and
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Speaker 16: I would say that we are fast tracking our Triple
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Speaker 16: zero guardian legislation that will give confidence to Australians about
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Speaker 16: the specific role that triple zero plays for us in
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Speaker 16: our country with disaster season ahead, and I'll be doing
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Speaker 16: that as quickly as I can to try and give
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Speaker 16: confidence too. Summer coming well.
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Speaker 2: Joe Hildebrandon. Nika Wells is a new minister.
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Speaker 3: She came into the ministry with the communications portfolio about
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Speaker 3: six months after Stephen rub became OPTA CEO. So do
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Speaker 3: you think the government will give the opt TO CEO
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Speaker 3: a pass for being new to his role?
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Speaker 7: Yeah?
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Speaker 14: Well, to be honest, I think if he hadn't been
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Speaker 14: in charge during the last apocalyptic outage a couple of
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Speaker 14: years ago, and then presided over the one a couple
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Speaker 14: of weeks ago, he would be out on his ear already.
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Speaker 14: I don't procride you think well. Saying that she's new
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Speaker 14: to the portfolio, she was asked if she was listening
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Speaker 14: more to some stakeholders than others, and she said, look,
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Speaker 14: I'm just getting my feet under the desk. I'm listening
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Speaker 14: to everybody. The question of why she took so long
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Speaker 14: though to speak to Stephen Rue and to basically rake
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Speaker 14: him over the colls I think is that if there's
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Speaker 14: a lesson in anything in public life, it's that people
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Speaker 14: like to see accountability, that justice has to be swift,
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Speaker 14: and that the minister's role is to make sure that
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Speaker 14: Optus is doing its basic duty, which is what other
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Speaker 14: telcos do, and that is to make sure that people
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Speaker 14: can call emergency services. That is the most fundamental service
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Speaker 14: They provide and everything else is frankly window dressing. So yeah,
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Speaker 14: it's a belated meeting to say the least.
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Speaker 3: Well, one of the reasons has taken so long, and
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Speaker 3: I mean it was a massive issue and the government
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Speaker 3: is right to be very concerned about it. But the
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Speaker 3: Communications Minister in the wake of the first out did
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Speaker 3: she flew to New York with So it presents rather
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Speaker 3: a bit of a conflicting message, doesn't it will This
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Speaker 3: is a major issue, but she took a little bit
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Speaker 3: of time to get back and get to it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 15: Sure, but we've set this standard in Australian politics which
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Speaker 15: is bizarre to me, where we have highly technical, specialized
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Speaker 15: portfolios and we think that it's acceptable to have people
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Speaker 15: leading them who have absolutely no experience in that portfolio.
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Speaker 15: This woman was a junior lawyer for a brief period
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Speaker 15: of time before following the well worn path of government
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Speaker 15: advisor and then into politics. She's got no experience of business,
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Speaker 15: let alone communications. Here's a thought for the next time
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Speaker 15: both the Liberal Party and the Labor Party go to
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Speaker 15: the election.
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Speaker 13: Why don't they.
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Speaker 15: Put people in seats or nominate people for seats who
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Speaker 15: actually have specialized experience in communications? In sport, in health,
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Speaker 15: in education, and so when they get into government they say, right,
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Speaker 15: that's our man or that's our woman. I just find
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Speaker 15: it absolutely bizarre that you could never get to be
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Speaker 15: a CEO of Telstra without having some understanding of communications,
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Speaker 15: but you can lead a government department in communications without
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Speaker 15: having any experience in that portfolio. It is bewildering and
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Speaker 15: it goes to why we have such mediocre leadership in
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Speaker 15: Australia at the moment.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you make a really good point, and
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Speaker 3: we could probably say that about pretty much every area
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Speaker 3: of government ministry. I remember my son was talking to
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Speaker 3: Barnaby Joyce. Joe Hildebrand and Barnaby Joyce, whatever you think
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Speaker 3: of him, said to my son, if you ever decide
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Speaker 3: to go into politics.
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Speaker 2: Don't do it until your mid thirties.
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Speaker 3: Go get a job, get qualified, and then go into politics,
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Speaker 3: which will make you a rare commodity in the political sphere.
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Speaker 2: I thought that was pretty good advice.
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Speaker 3: Joe hilda Brand, Will Kingston, thanks for joining me tonight
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Speaker 3: and thanks for your company.
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Speaker 2: I'll be back tomorrow night, but stick around.
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Speaker 3: Coming up right now is Denika de Georgio hosting Shari
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Speaker 3: good night