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UK Column News - 11th August 2025 · UK Column Radio

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  Speaker 1: Good afternoon. Today is the eleventh of August twenty twenty five,
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  Speaker 1: just after one o'clock. Welcome to UK column News. I'm
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  Speaker 1: your host, Brian Gerrish, delighted to have Ben Rubin with
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  Speaker 1: me in the studio and we'll be joined by Diane
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  Speaker 1: Rasmus and mcaddy by a link from the northeast of England.
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  Speaker 1: I'll just say if you look out of the window
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  Speaker 1: behind me, you can see we've got a very gray
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  Speaker 1: day in Plymouth. There's a bit of drizzle, there's certainly
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  Speaker 1: full cloud cover, not particularly hot, so we're surviving here.
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  Speaker 1: We'll say a little bit more about climate at the
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  Speaker 1: end of today's news, but let's start with some serious
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  Speaker 1: events and that was really over the weekend on Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: Palestine Action, when, of course we saw some pretty endible
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  Speaker 1: scenes between the police and the general public, many of
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  Speaker 1: whom were arrested on the basis that they've now become terrorists,
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  Speaker 1: no matter what their age or background. Let's have a
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  Speaker 1: look at how the Guardian portrayed things.
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  Speaker 2: Rest the people can see the genocide, arrest the people
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  Speaker 2: that are selling.
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  Speaker 3: Arms, they're bombing, killing, allowing the starving of uphole nations.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there were Ben That's how the Guardian portrayed things,
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  Speaker 1: so lots of noise. You got the impression that this
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  Speaker 1: was a pretty brutal reaction with the police and not
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  Speaker 1: a lot of information apart from the Guardian being keen
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  Speaker 1: to warn people at the end of the video that
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  Speaker 1: you dare support Palestine Action, you are going to be
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  Speaker 1: branded a terrorists and you can face up to fourteen
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  Speaker 1: years in prison. Well, luckily UK Column was able to
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  Speaker 1: report from the scenes. Let's have look at this alternative
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  Speaker 1: clip which has kindly been shot for the UK Column
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  Speaker 1: by will.
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  Speaker 4: Excuse me madam?
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  Speaker 5: What's happened.
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  Speaker 6: Yellside?
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  Speaker 2: They said they arresting.
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  Speaker 7: And the arms, sailers and the politicians.
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  Speaker 8: Hello, this is Will Coles have a pointing for UK Column.
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  Speaker 8: We're down here today in Parliament Square. You can see
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  Speaker 8: big men behind me and the police are one by
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  Speaker 8: one picking off members.
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  Speaker 4: Or supporters at least of the group.
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  Speaker 8: Palestine Action was just being prohibited as a so called
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  Speaker 8: terrorist group for throwing paint on a crane on a plane,
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  Speaker 8: which many think is criminal damage.
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  Speaker 4: The police are.
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  Speaker 8: Grabbing the people one by one and it looks like
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  Speaker 8: these people are going to be tried, charged and possibly
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  Speaker 8: imprisoned as terrorists for holding up signs saying they support
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  Speaker 8: an organization which commits criminal damage.
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  Speaker 7: To exercise my fundamental human rights.
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  Speaker 4: Are you willing to go to prison? Absolutely?
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  Speaker 8: Do you think about being labeled as a terroriffy?
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  Speaker 7: It's snortingly ridiculous.
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  Speaker 4: It's going to be the thin end of the website.
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  Speaker 7: Absolutely, we're on the way down to a totalitarian state,
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  Speaker 7: so much you.
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  Speaker 4: What do you think of what's happening.
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  Speaker 9: I think it's said the death of democracy, the death
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  Speaker 9: of freedom, the death of sweet priest speech. And it's frightening,
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  Speaker 9: completely frightening to see this in the twenty first century
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  Speaker 9: we've had it.
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  Speaker 4: Did you want to over.
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  Speaker 10: The police?
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  Speaker 4: What do you think of this?
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  Speaker 10: I think it's shameful. I think it's absolutely disgusting. This
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  Speaker 10: is our democratic right to stand here and protest, and
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  Speaker 10: the policemen are stopping something that is no crime.
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  Speaker 11: I was shocking, subtly shocking. I've never seen anything like
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  Speaker 11: this in this country. This is a disgrace and this
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  Speaker 11: we'll go down in history like shame on you.
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  Speaker 4: I am you know.
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  Speaker 12: Oh, they shouldn't be arresting people that are just trying
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  Speaker 12: to protest.
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  Speaker 3: Most of them are retirees. We've seen retired vickers, We've
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  Speaker 3: seen doctors, we've seen grandparents. Peaceful people just protesting against
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  Speaker 3: the genocide are being arrested by the Met police who
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  Speaker 3: don't have the brains to think for themselves. They're just
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  Speaker 3: foot soldiers for genocide. They're following orders, the orders of
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  Speaker 3: a general sidal government. There's committing genocide right now in Israel.
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  Speaker 8: Run's commander, is this a proportion of res one?
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  Speaker 4: We're enforcing people that are breaching legislation.
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  Speaker 8: So do people not have a rig of free speed?
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  Speaker 8: What do you think about this terrorist classification for criminal damage?
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  Speaker 4: It's absolutely absurd.
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  Speaker 9: Kalifine Action are a group that peacefully protested about a
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  Speaker 9: genocide that's killed. Depending on who you hear, four hundred
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  Speaker 9: thousand official number sixty thousand odd, but it's probably going
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  Speaker 9: to be far more than that. And at the end
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  Speaker 9: of the day, they were doing the work that other
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  Speaker 9: people wanted them to do. Now they've been prescribed as
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  Speaker 9: terrorists because they threw paint on rented aircraft.
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  Speaker 4: That not my cup of tea. This is in Britain.
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  Speaker 4: This is a fascist state.
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  Speaker 3: It's really some well un experts have called for the
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  Speaker 3: UK government to rescind the prescription of Palastine action. The
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  Speaker 3: UN experts have said there is no internationally a Greek
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  Speaker 3: definition of terrorism, but consensus is that it is damage
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  Speaker 3: and intentional damage or harmed to civilians for political gains,
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  Speaker 3: not property. Palistine action have only ever gone for property.
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  Speaker 3: They've made that very clear. There's already existing legislation to
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  Speaker 3: cover that. There's criminal damage, there's trespassing, you know, all
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  Speaker 3: sorts of legislation they could draw. And it's politically motivated
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  Speaker 3: because they were so shamed by some people getting into
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  Speaker 3: the RAF site and spray painting a plane. They were
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  Speaker 3: so humiliated that they've prescribed the organization doing it. But
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  Speaker 3: as you can see, the people are against it and
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  Speaker 3: we will keep coming.
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  Speaker 2: It makes a mockery of the Lord.
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  Speaker 13: And it's very selective because the Quakers have been doing
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  Speaker 13: action like that for years and it gets ignored, they're arrested.
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  Speaker 13: So other organizations have done this, but it's only because
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  Speaker 13: it's Palestine, but all of a sudden that's labeled as terrorism.
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  Speaker 13: Yet other organizations have done this in the past. I
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  Speaker 13: know the Quakers have, so I mean by the principles
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  Speaker 13: and doing.
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  Speaker 4: The right thing.
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  Speaker 2: It's just by spiece eroding away our rights to demonstrate,
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  Speaker 2: to protest the democracy, and it's just piece by piece
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  Speaker 2: it's slipping away from us.
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  Speaker 12: I can do what you have to do.
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  Speaker 9: I think that we are now on such a dangerous
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  Speaker 9: position that we are in trouble of losing all freedom.
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  Speaker 8: Do you think that many people are going to be
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  Speaker 8: acquisted by jury?
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  Speaker 4: Yes?
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, the public opinion is on the side of the people.
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  Speaker 8: And do you think that more people are going to
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  Speaker 8: come out and do this as they continue locking people up?
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  Speaker 4: Yes?
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  Speaker 11: I don't think this will stop now.
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  Speaker 10: They need to be exonerated by a jury, and Starmer
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  Speaker 10: and his government need to apologize for getting this so
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  Speaker 10: very badly wrong.
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  Speaker 8: Who want other people who may not even agree with
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  Speaker 8: you on Palestine to stand up for these people?
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  Speaker 2: Upon principle for speech, absolutely absolutely free speeches for everyone,
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  Speaker 2: And there might be people that I disagree with their
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  Speaker 2: opinion fundamentally, but I will definitely stand up for their
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  Speaker 2: right to have free speech.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, I agree completely. They're not doing anything wrong.
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  Speaker 8: We've seen a rest for this before, but now this
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  Speaker 8: seems to be the biggest that we've seen so far,
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  Speaker 8: and it seems like this isn't issue which isn't.
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  Speaker 14: Going away, and.
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  Speaker 8: More and more people are going to be ended up
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  Speaker 8: in prison on trial for saying the words I support
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  Speaker 8: Palestine action. This is Will Coles Hill reporting for UK
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  Speaker 8: columns support.
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  Speaker 1: So excellent report by Coles Hill there, and of course
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  Speaker 1: the contrast with the Guardian report when no substance, no
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  Speaker 1: interaction with the public are obviously deeply concerned. It really
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  Speaker 1: shows the manipulation of the mainstream media. Now towards the
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  Speaker 1: end of Will's report there a member of the public
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  Speaker 1: was talking about the power of the jury to do
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  Speaker 1: something and I think this is the time when we
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  Speaker 1: need to flag up the government's other attack at the moment,
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  Speaker 1: which is on just that juries. And the man in
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  Speaker 1: question is retired Judge Brian Levison, who the UK column
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  Speaker 1: has reported on many occasions. But center screen you've got
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  Speaker 1: his independent review at the criminal Courts part one. We
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  Speaker 1: just wanted to make sure people knew that aside from
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  Speaker 1: attacking the jury system, it's quite clear and many people
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  Speaker 1: are commenting on this that he seems determined to get
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  Speaker 1: rid of more and more opportunities for people to be
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  Speaker 1: tried by a jury their peers. We notice that on
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  Speaker 1: the front COVERI is also promoting the Talmud uniquely amongst
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  Speaker 1: other neutral comments about justice and make your own mind up.
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  Speaker 1: But of course, if we have a look at what
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  Speaker 1: Keirs Stalmer is talking about at the moment, then he
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  Speaker 1: is pushing heavily, of course, for things to go in
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  Speaker 1: Israel's favor in Gaza. Let's have a listen to this
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  Speaker 1: little clip from the twenty ninth of July.
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  Speaker 15: On the seventh October twenty twenty three, Hamas perpetrated the
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  Speaker 15: worst massacre in Israel's history. Every day since then the
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  Speaker 15: horror has continued. The hostages are still being held today.
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  Speaker 15: The Palestinian people have endured terrible suffering now in Gaza
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  Speaker 15: because of a catastrophic failure of aid. We see starving babies,
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  Speaker 15: children too weak to stand. Images that will stay with
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  Speaker 15: us for a lifetime. Our goal remains a safe and
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  Speaker 15: secure Israel alongside a viable and sovereign Palestinian state.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there we are, obviously, that's a section of his
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  Speaker 1: full speech was edited, but the meaning of what he
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  Speaker 1: had to say was not changed. It's clear that the
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  Speaker 1: priority is Israel, and all the troubles in Gaza are
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  Speaker 1: simply the result of not being able to get food,
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  Speaker 1: in no mention of bombing and indiscriminate killing at all.
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  Speaker 1: It's simply a problem in getting food in Now he
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  Speaker 1: has also made a recent statement and this was pushed
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  Speaker 1: out on Defense HQ, the government's mod propaganda machine, and
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  Speaker 1: here he's saying that the Israeli government's decision to further
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  Speaker 1: escalate its offensive in Gas is wrong. We urge it
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  Speaker 1: to reconsider immediately. Then again he's talking about humanitarian aid,
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  Speaker 1: but he goes on to say that together with our allies,
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  Speaker 1: we're working on a long term plan to secure peace
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  Speaker 1: in the region as part of a two state solution
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  Speaker 1: and ultimately achieve a brighter future for Palestinians and Israelis. Well,
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  Speaker 1: that's putting a lot of gloss over it. But the
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  Speaker 1: key thing is while he's supposingly talking peace, UK, the
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  Speaker 1: US and indeed many countries in the EU are going
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  Speaker 1: to pump in the weapons to keep that slaughter of
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  Speaker 1: the Palestinians in guards are going. So the hypocrisy truly breathtaking.
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  Speaker 1: But now we've reached the stage where ordinary British people
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  Speaker 1: on the streets protesting about this genocide and brutality have
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  Speaker 1: become the terrorists. And not only that, of course, we
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  Speaker 1: are seeing attack on Jewish people themselves. Thank you very
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  Speaker 1: much for the viewer who picked up this Oxford mail report.
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  Speaker 1: This is Margols who was one of the Harry Potter
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  Speaker 1: stars as an actress. And what's the attack about? Well,
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  Speaker 1: she said this, she's Jewish herself. She spoke to the
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  Speaker 1: big issue about Israel's military campaign in Gaza. She said
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  Speaker 1: it reminded her of the Holocaust and added the terrible
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  Speaker 1: thing I face is that Hitler won. He changed us,
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  Speaker 1: he made us like him. So this lady clearly very
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  Speaker 1: upset and disturbed at what she was seeing happen. But
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  Speaker 1: what was the result. That the result was a massive
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  Speaker 1: attack on her by the Campaign against Anti Semitism. Now
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  Speaker 1: have attributed the remarks in the paper which came from
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  Speaker 1: the organization to the chief executive, Gideon Falter. He said
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  Speaker 1: the organization said the remarks are repugnant. The fact she
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  Speaker 1: was born Jewish does not give a license to use
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  Speaker 1: her immense platform to spread quote anti Jewish. Venom went
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  Speaker 1: on to say this has to be the end of
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  Speaker 1: the road. She must be shunned by the showbiz world.
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  Speaker 1: That has formed and bowed until now. So there you
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  Speaker 1: have it. You can be Jewish, you can criticize the
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  Speaker 1: Israeli government for its policy of killing in Gaza. You
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  Speaker 1: will then be attacked by organizations which, as we'll see
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  Speaker 1: from this next image, boast that they are working alongside
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  Speaker 1: the police, CPS and regulatory bodies and government in order
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  Speaker 1: to enforce rules and regulations against anybody they deem to
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  Speaker 1: be anti Semitic. But I'm going to say to you,
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  Speaker 1: I found this really a dangerous situation where even Jewish
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  Speaker 1: people themselves are now being silenced in talking out about
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  Speaker 1: these horrors in the Middle East by the Israeli government
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  Speaker 1: and their agents which are operating in UK alongside them police,
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  Speaker 1: government agencies and the British government. It's almost like everybody
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  Speaker 1: who dares speak out for peace is going to be
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  Speaker 1: labeled terrorists inside this country, whether you're Jewish or non Jewish.
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  Speaker 4: Seems to be the plybook.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, Diane, let's welcome you in at this point, because,
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  Speaker 1: of course, whilst there's plenty of money for the weapons
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  Speaker 1: and the bombs and the ammunition going into Israel to
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  Speaker 1: help it perpetuate its attack on Gaza, we've got an
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  Speaker 1: NHS that is in absolute chaos in UK.
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  Speaker 14: Yes very much, thanks Brian, and hello everyone, it's good
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  Speaker 14: to be here today. I wanted to follow up on
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  Speaker 14: a couple of things from First of all, from May
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  Speaker 14: of twenty twenty four, it was the first time that
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  Speaker 14: UK column covered this issue of the new hospitals that
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  Speaker 14: are meant to be put around the country. But this
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  Speaker 14: tip off recently came from a viewer in Consett, County
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  Speaker 14: Durham up here where I am in the northeast of England,
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  Speaker 14: concerns about the local hospital that is going to be
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  Speaker 14: replaced in his town, or that at least that's the
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  Speaker 14: plan apparently to do so. The existing hospital in Conset
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  Speaker 14: is called Shotley Bridge Community Hospital, which opened in nineteen twelve.
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  Speaker 14: The NHS says the problem is that it leaks heat.
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  Speaker 14: Now the new hospital is meant to be built near
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  Speaker 14: this site of this sculpture, called the Terrace novalis in Conset.
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  Speaker 14: This consists of two measuring instruments at theodolite and an
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  Speaker 14: engineer's level. It's very very large and it's meant to
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  Speaker 14: wark the watershed between the upland and the Moorlin landscape.
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  Speaker 14: And the extremes of the industrial age. The significance of
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  Speaker 14: this is that concept as an old steel town was
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  Speaker 14: once actually once Europe's largest steel works, and this landmark
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  Speaker 14: is very important. Another concern is that in addition to
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  Speaker 14: the corruption and the waste that might be happening with
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  Speaker 14: this hospital, which we're going to look at this is
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  Speaker 14: happening around England by the way, is that it's possible
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  Speaker 14: that this landmark could be in danger as well as
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  Speaker 14: the beautiful land that surrounds it. So after I received
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  Speaker 14: this tip off, I went to do a little bit
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  Speaker 14: of a little photojournalism myself. This report comes from this
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  Speaker 14: photograph which is part of the new hospital site apparently,
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  Speaker 14: which has been confirmed last month by the BBC now
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  Speaker 14: that the construction of the new hospital will be taking place.
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  Speaker 14: It's near a big retail park area where the old
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  Speaker 14: steel factory used to be. So here's a couple of
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  Speaker 14: photos both from the different areas of the engineering site
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  Speaker 14: where they're basically doing testing on the ground. The council
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  Speaker 14: has previously said that the ground is not satisfactory for building,
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  Speaker 14: but I guess they're doing it anyway. So what's happening
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  Speaker 14: with the overall story of the hospitals around the country
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  Speaker 14: is a particular concern. This in particular is Project Genesis,
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  Speaker 14: which took over concert years ago. I think it was
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  Speaker 14: in the nineties when the steel factory closed and the
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  Speaker 14: Genesis project took over to try to do something with
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  Speaker 14: the city. So this is nineteen forty five when the
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  Speaker 14: steel factory was still in operation. You can sort of
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  Speaker 14: see the area kind of the mill, sort of off
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  Speaker 14: to the left of the town where the houses are.
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  Speaker 14: And if we go forward to the next year that
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  Speaker 14: Project Genesis provides in twenty twenty four, we can see
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  Speaker 14: that there's more housing that's taking over most of the
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  Speaker 14: steel factory. You can see the big buildings there that
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  Speaker 14: are the retail park and the new hospital is set
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  Speaker 14: to take place to be built over the green space
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  Speaker 14: to the sort of the left of it. Project Genesis
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  Speaker 14: has taken over, as I said, a lot of the city.
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  Speaker 14: But the problem is that when we look at this
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  Speaker 14: from a wider perspective around England, we start to see
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  Speaker 14: the problems and how this might be taking place. If
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  Speaker 14: you go back to twenty nineteen the general election, it
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  Speaker 14: was part of the manifesto for Boris Johnson to think
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  Speaker 14: about you know what we're going to do with the hospitals.
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  Speaker 14: There he is in October of twenty twenty with Build
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  Speaker 14: Back Better of course in the background, because we're going
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  Speaker 14: back to this time when he was saying that this
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  Speaker 14: would be built as a package worth three point seven
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  Speaker 14: billion pounds for forty hospitals. At the time, this was
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  Speaker 14: all the Health Infrastructure Plan, said to be the biggest
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  Speaker 14: hospital building program in a generation, and the Shotleybridge Hospital
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  Speaker 14: and concept was going to be part of this at
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  Speaker 14: the time. Just to quote Boris Johnson to see where
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  Speaker 14: we were in the timeline, saying this, the dedication and
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  Speaker 14: tireless efforts of our nurses, doctors and all healthcare workers
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  Speaker 14: have kept the NHS open through this pandemic. But no
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  Speaker 14: matter what the virus throws at us, we are determined
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  Speaker 14: to build back Better and delivered the biggest hospital building
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  Speaker 14: program in a generation. And then Matt Hancock of course
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  Speaker 14: came in and supported him to say that. So we
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  Speaker 14: can see that. There's lots of policy documents and so
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  Speaker 14: on from the UK government which can be available in
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  Speaker 14: the show notes. So I won't go into too much detail,
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  Speaker 14: but by the time we get into further into twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 14: He says that we're going ahead with the hospitals, and
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  Speaker 14: there were lots of things around of health boards around
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  Speaker 14: the country, different trusts talking about this. So I believe
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  Speaker 14: we now have a video from a GP speaking from
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  Speaker 14: the Lancature area and he was talking about this new
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  Speaker 14: hospital program.
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  Speaker 16: I'm Jeff Jolliffe. I'm a GP here in Barrow in Furness,
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  Speaker 16: part of Lancaston and South Cumbria, and I'm also the
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  Speaker 16: chair of the CCG in Morecambe Bay. I sit on
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  Speaker 16: the Clinical Oversight Group for the new hospital's program. What
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  Speaker 16: is it the new hospital's program. It's a great opportunity,
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  Speaker 16: isn't it. It's a big lump of money to redevelop
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  Speaker 16: our hospitals. It's a once in a lifetime opportunity. We
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  Speaker 16: can't miss it. It's going to be great for the population.
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  Speaker 16: New hospitals program might seem to not mean much to
• 20:37
  Speaker 16: primary care, but it's actually vital, isn't it, Because we
• 20:40
  Speaker 16: care for our patients and our patients need good hospital
• 20:43
  Speaker 16: care as part of the whole pathway. So there will
• 20:46
  Speaker 16: be a huge knock on benefit to our patients and
• 20:48
  Speaker 16: therefore to the way primary care works. And night to
• 20:51
  Speaker 16: the future with more care closer to the patient's home,
• 20:54
  Speaker 16: more care in community services, and we need to focus
• 20:57
  Speaker 16: on doing in hospital only what we need to do.
• 21:00
  Speaker 16: In addition, they provide an environment that is better for staff,
• 21:04
  Speaker 16: better for patients, and an environment that patients flow better,
• 21:07
  Speaker 16: so you end up with better outcomes. But assuming we
• 21:10
  Speaker 16: get the money, and I'm hopeful of that, we could
• 21:13
  Speaker 16: then start the process of identifying which is the best
• 21:16
  Speaker 16: solution to spending that money. There's a big process, so
• 21:19
  Speaker 16: it can't happen overnight, but we'll get there and we'll
• 21:22
  Speaker 16: have them.
• 21:34
  Speaker 14: So that all sounds nice and lovely. So that was
• 21:36
  Speaker 14: twenty twenty one. If we go forward a bit to
• 21:38
  Speaker 14: twenty twenty three, we start to see the reporting coming
• 21:41
  Speaker 14: from the government saying that this is now twenty billion pounds.
• 21:45
  Speaker 14: It was just I think just a few billion previously.
• 21:48
  Speaker 14: So now we're talking about it prioritizing the rebuilding of
• 21:53
  Speaker 14: five hospitals that we're using reinforced autoclaved aerated concrete rebuilt
• 21:58
  Speaker 14: by twenty thirty as part of the new Hospital program,
• 22:01
  Speaker 14: because they're saying that this material was not basically fit
• 22:03
  Speaker 14: for purpose and that it was going to fall apart,
• 22:06
  Speaker 14: so they identified five hospitals as well as many other
• 22:08
  Speaker 14: hospitals around the country that need to be built. So
• 22:11
  Speaker 14: this new building, which again is going to include this
• 22:14
  Speaker 14: hospital and here in County Durham and many others, is
• 22:17
  Speaker 14: using what they call standardized design that will harness digital transformation,
• 22:22
  Speaker 14: making the use of latest technology for the benefit of
• 22:25
  Speaker 14: staff and patients, and it's sustainable, contributing to net zero
• 22:29
  Speaker 14: carbon across the NHS. So that's fabulous news, incorporating learning
• 22:33
  Speaker 14: from the pandemic and ensuring hospitals can adapt to changing
• 22:36
  Speaker 14: health needs. So this is how they're selling it in
• 22:38
  Speaker 14: twenty twenty three under something that they call Hospital two
• 22:41
  Speaker 14: point zero, which is a standardized design for future hospitals
• 22:44
  Speaker 14: which will benefit patients and staff through digital solutions and
• 22:48
  Speaker 14: optimize hospital layout. This will decrease the time needed to
• 22:53
  Speaker 14: develop and build hospitals as well as reducing the cost
• 22:56
  Speaker 14: through economies of scale. So what we're seeing is what
• 22:59
  Speaker 14: we've reported before a UK column that there's a trend
• 23:02
  Speaker 14: towards digital management of health, less focus on physical space,
• 23:06
  Speaker 14: less focus on human connection and the nurses and the
• 23:09
  Speaker 14: doctors who support people. So going forward now to twenty
• 23:12
  Speaker 14: twenty five, we are now seeing with Labor and Power,
• 23:16
  Speaker 14: and what we're seeing is a report that came out.
• 23:19
  Speaker 14: Basically they did a review of what the Conservatives did
• 23:22
  Speaker 14: looking at the new hospital program. So we have a
• 23:25
  Speaker 14: quote from this policy paper that was published in January
• 23:28
  Speaker 14: this year from West streeting our Hill secretary saying the
• 23:32
  Speaker 14: NHS is quite literally crumbling. And that's just one of
• 23:35
  Speaker 14: the sentences. I just wanted to highlight that the report itself, Basically,
• 23:40
  Speaker 14: what they did is an evaluation of where we were
• 23:43
  Speaker 14: with the hospital situation in England to make it sort
• 23:47
  Speaker 14: of prioritize what needed to be rebuilt, what was the
• 23:50
  Speaker 14: most important thing to do, using something a multi criteria
• 23:54
  Speaker 14: decision support analysis tool to look at which hospitals need
• 23:58
  Speaker 14: to be prioritized and what could wait. So as a
• 24:00
  Speaker 14: map here again you can see this again in the
• 24:02
  Speaker 14: policy documents yourself if you can't see it while on
• 24:05
  Speaker 14: the screen, showing which hospitals had been highlighted to be
• 24:09
  Speaker 14: part of the scheme and which ones were not, and
• 24:11
  Speaker 14: which ones were going to be prioritized because of this
• 24:14
  Speaker 14: concrete problem we see in this list there was a
• 24:17
  Speaker 14: list of different waves through whether we're going to be
• 24:21
  Speaker 14: prioritizing which hospitals and so shotley Bridge Community Hospital in
• 24:24
  Speaker 14: concept is in Table two Wave one, which you can
• 24:28
  Speaker 14: see in the report, to start construction between twenty twenty
• 24:31
  Speaker 14: five and twenty thirty and as we saw with my
• 24:33
  Speaker 14: photos at the start of the segment, they are starting
• 24:36
  Speaker 14: to look at the land underneath it. I went to
• 24:39
  Speaker 14: also take some photos of the existing shotley Bridge Community
• 24:43
  Speaker 14: Hospital and concept. These are my photos. You can't really
• 24:46
  Speaker 14: see the signs because the trees and the bushes haven't
• 24:49
  Speaker 14: been trimmed too well, but that's the assign to the
• 24:51
  Speaker 14: entrance to a hospital. The outside of the hospital. I
• 24:55
  Speaker 14: didn't go inside. I didn't want to draw any attention
• 24:57
  Speaker 14: to myself, but that's the outside. The hospital still look
• 25:00
  Speaker 14: like it's in place, but they say it's leaky and
• 25:02
  Speaker 14: the heating needs fixed. Apparently that's the problem. And there's
• 25:06
  Speaker 14: a sign here of the different services that they offer.
• 25:09
  Speaker 14: There are some people in the community who, from what
• 25:12
  Speaker 14: I've heard, are concerned that some of these services will
• 25:14
  Speaker 14: be going away. The new hospital, even though it's meant
• 25:16
  Speaker 14: to cost about five hundred million pounds to build, I
• 25:19
  Speaker 14: believe is only going to have sixteen beds in it,
• 25:21
  Speaker 14: and so they're concerned that because of the size of
• 25:24
  Speaker 14: the community that it serves, there will be a decrease
• 25:26
  Speaker 14: in services. And I want to also highlight here the
• 25:29
  Speaker 14: BBC reporting of the process of this hospital over time,
• 25:34
  Speaker 14: where there was a lot of back and forth about
• 25:36
  Speaker 14: what was going to happen. So first we see here
• 25:39
  Speaker 14: September twenty twenty three, the replacement is going to be delayed.
• 25:42
  Speaker 14: They talk about issues with funding, issues with resources. October
• 25:48
  Speaker 14: twenty twenty three. I've got several links here to these
• 25:50
  Speaker 14: are all BBC articles. Many millions of pounds over budget,
• 25:55
  Speaker 14: a hospital plan reviewed over spiraling costs. This was in
• 25:59
  Speaker 14: September twenty twenty four. Just reading the headlines here there
• 26:02
  Speaker 14: was a home skiing that was put on hold as
• 26:04
  Speaker 14: the new hospital husband put under review, where they were
• 26:06
  Speaker 14: talking about building homes for elderly people, calling it a
• 26:10
  Speaker 14: health village, which sounds a little bit concerning to be
• 26:13
  Speaker 14: built next to this new hospital. November twenty twenty four. Again,
• 26:17
  Speaker 14: new hospital project will never happen. So we were hearing
• 26:20
  Speaker 14: from a labor and live dems essentially at this point,
• 26:24
  Speaker 14: worrying about what's happening and now in January twenty twenty
• 26:27
  Speaker 14: five the build is to go ahead following a review,
• 26:31
  Speaker 14: and that's the most recent from the BBC. We have
• 26:34
  Speaker 14: a quote from west Street who actually came out to
• 26:37
  Speaker 14: see the new site and concept, so if we could
• 26:40
  Speaker 14: put that up on the screen, if we have it here.
• 26:44
  Speaker 14: He was saying, we have secured the funding producing a
• 26:47
  Speaker 14: realistic timetable with spades in the ground for a new
• 26:50
  Speaker 14: hospital site and concert in twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven.
• 26:54
  Speaker 14: It was great to see the site myself and hear
• 26:56
  Speaker 14: from Labor councilors how important the investment will be to
• 26:59
  Speaker 14: regenerating Concept. Labor will deliver this new hospital building so
• 27:02
  Speaker 14: patients and Concept get the care they deserve now. Originally,
• 27:06
  Speaker 14: when they reported on their report regarding what they were
• 27:10
  Speaker 14: going to do or not do, they criticized the Conservative
• 27:13
  Speaker 14: government for not putting enough money in place. And then
• 27:15
  Speaker 14: but you know, as we've seen here, this bit off
• 27:17
  Speaker 14: and on and off and on. So now they're saying
• 27:19
  Speaker 14: they're going to do it. The local MP called Liz Twist,
• 27:24
  Speaker 14: whose Labor for Blatant Concept, said when west visited the
• 27:28
  Speaker 14: site a few months ago, she said having the health Secretary,
• 27:32
  Speaker 14: here is a clear indication that labor is delivering for
• 27:34
  Speaker 14: Concept and the surrounding communities. The new site will have
• 27:37
  Speaker 14: state of the art facilities and much improved transport links.
• 27:40
  Speaker 14: I'm keen to keep working with all the relevant stakeholders
• 27:43
  Speaker 14: to ensure this project is built and delivered within the
• 27:45
  Speaker 14: timeframe and to improve healthcare within our communities. So the
• 27:49
  Speaker 14: local magazine called Concept Magazine covered this as well as we.
• 27:54
  Speaker 14: So they were showing when they came out to visit
• 27:56
  Speaker 14: and basically saying, well, all right, this is what's happening,
• 27:59
  Speaker 14: and now we will just wait to see what happens. Brian,
• 28:01
  Speaker 14: I don't know if it will get built or out,
• 28:03
  Speaker 14: or how much it will cost, but this is happening
• 28:05
  Speaker 14: around the country, so check your local areas if you're
• 28:07
  Speaker 14: in England to see what's going on with your hospital.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Ianne, thank you very much for that report. Well the
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: words are there, aren't they. It's always jammed Tomorrow, utopia, Tomorrow,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: everything will be okay tomorrow. But what we constantly see
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: is that when tomorrow comes, there's more of the shamble.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: So I have no confidence in what is happening here,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: and I think the chaos that you are seeing is
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: part of the overall chaos to destroy the NHS as
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: this massive privatization coming in. Ben, I'm going to look
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: at you and say, so, is AI going to solve
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: the problem.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: No, it's not. It's certainly not going to solve the problem,
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: although they're going to make good use of the chaos
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: in the NHS. Atra Faugus squar as we heard earlier.
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: That was an excellent report, Diane, and also that report
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: by will Z was top notch. That was brilliant. And
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: last week we had chaos outside of migrant hotels in
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: Epping and further Afield. So there's chaos going on all
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: over the place. And in the background, an invasion is happening.
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: And I don't mean an invasion of illegal immigrants. I
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: mean something quite different actually, as I'll get into and
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: I'm going to start this in the Oval Office. On
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: January twenty first this year, day one of the second
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: Trump administration, the announcement of Projects Stargate half a trillion
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: dollars to build AI data centers across the whold of
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: the US, essentially mass surveillance and genetic engineering infrastructure. Really
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: nightmare stuff delivered through a public private partnership commissioned by
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: the state, represented here by Donald Trump, and delivered by
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: the private sector by corporations represented by Massa sand from SoftBank.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: On the left. There Larry Ellison from Oracle, basically Tony
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: Blair's top thunder over the past twenty thirty years. And
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: importantly Sam Altman, the founder of open AI, one of
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: the top minds in artificial intelligence, also affectionately named by
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: the Washington Post King of the Cannibals. That's quite a name,
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: isn't it. The King of the Cannibals, Sam Altman. Maybe
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: I'll come back to that a little bit later on.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: So this is rumbling on as you'd expect. In fact,
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: it's not rumbling. They've gone right out of the gate.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: Trump's AI vision takes shape as Oragle and open AI
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: expand a massive stargate infrastructure project in Texas. So they
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: have broken ground. They are making headway. This is the Abilene,
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: Texas site just a few weeks ago. Provide a link
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: to this article you can go and have a look
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: at it. So it's all guns blazing in the US.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: But also importantly they're moving internationally as well, and say
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: announced to the end of May, the UAE Stargate project.
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: So this is in Abu Dabbi and the World Economic
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: Forum interestingly very excited about this. Remember those people that
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: Trump is the enemy of where they really like this policy.
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: It's interesting, that, isn't it. So the UAE Stargate project
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: hints at how AI can be integrated international infrastructure crucially.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: All right, and let's have a little listen to Chris Lahane,
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: chief Global affairs officer from open AI, talking about this
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: project to Fox News a few days ago.
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: Open AI is also launching Stargate. UAE is the first
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: international deployment of open AI's infrastructure platform. Joining me now,
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: Chris Lahyan and the chief Global Affairs officer at open AI. Chris,
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: let me see, I've got this right. You are open
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: AI is working directly with other countries, in this case UAE,
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: to help their AI capacity, working in conjunction with the
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: United State. Have I got that right?
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: You got that right.
• 32:03
  Speaker 12: We think of this as open AYE for countries, but
• 32:06
  Speaker 12: in this particular case, it really follows on President Trump's
• 32:09
  Speaker 12: visit to the UAE really the Mideast last week, and
• 32:13
  Speaker 12: I think this partnership really is going to accomplish two
• 32:16
  Speaker 12: really important things. First of all, it's going to help
• 32:20
  Speaker 12: advance making sure that US led democratic AI is being
• 32:25
  Speaker 12: built around the world here in the UAE case. And
• 32:28
  Speaker 12: then secondly, this partnership also involves bringing money back into
• 32:32
  Speaker 12: the US, investment back into the US, into US infrastructure.
• 32:36
  Speaker 12: So really a win win, A win for making sure
• 32:39
  Speaker 12: we're building the AI system on democratics US led rails,
• 32:44
  Speaker 12: and a win bringing money back into the US to
• 32:46
  Speaker 12: build infrastructure for AI in the US, jobs, economic development
• 32:51
  Speaker 12: that comes with that.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Did you might get that, baran Well, I was witnessing
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: a bit the idea of democratic AI coming from the
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: US that it can sell in order to bring more
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: money back into the US.
• 33:05
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Right, we are looking at global governance here. This is
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: clear that we're now seeing the absolute end of the
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: nation state.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: It's sovereign AI though importantly, but you have to buy
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: it from open AI. Right, So it's sovereign because they're
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: going to build these data centers in your country, but
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: you can only buy it from a handful of very
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: carefully selected technology companies, all of them aligned to US imperialism.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: But it's not just US imperialism, it's something that's got
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: hold of the United States. Actually, I think that's probably
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: a bit more like it. But I love that idea
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: you picked up on it. US led democratic AI. It's
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: a little bit like when the US would go and
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: invade countries to deliver freedom to people, isn't it. It's
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: a similar kind of thing, and they're just doing it
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: by stealth now rather than by bombing people, although they
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: are doing some bombing too. Let's give them for that. Yeah, exactly, yes,
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: And the use of the term US lead rails. Right,
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: So if you're on rails, if you're in a train,
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: you can only go in one direction or back or forth. Right,
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: there's no way you can get off those rails. And
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: that's quite telling. Anyway. Let's have a little listen to
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: the second half of that clip.
• 34:12
  Speaker 6: Is there a worldwide contest between the United States and China,
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: but not for dominance of AI, but for control of AI?
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: Forgot that right?
• 34:22
  Speaker 12: Yeah, it's a great it's a great way to put
• 34:24
  Speaker 12: it right now in the world, there's two countries that can.
• 34:27
  Speaker 14: Build AI at scale.
• 34:29
  Speaker 12: That's as you were saying, the US and the communists
• 34:32
  Speaker 12: led People's Republic of China. Those are the only two
• 34:35
  Speaker 12: countries that can build this at scale, and in this moment,
• 34:38
  Speaker 12: the US does have the innovation lead. We want to
• 34:42
  Speaker 12: leverage that lead so that we're bringing as many countries
• 34:45
  Speaker 12: as possible into the US rails, the US system. And
• 34:49
  Speaker 12: I think what the President did last week, I think
• 34:52
  Speaker 12: the way the administration is thinking about it, I think
• 34:54
  Speaker 12: the way we at open AI are thinking about this
• 34:56
  Speaker 12: in the context of Stargate International. In this case Stargate
• 34:59
  Speaker 12: U is really how can we take advantage how can
• 35:03
  Speaker 12: we leverage the innovation lead we currently have to bring
• 35:07
  Speaker 12: these countries onto our rails, into our system. And I
• 35:10
  Speaker 12: think that really then sets up arguably the next hundred
• 35:13
  Speaker 12: years as we.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: Go forward, does a contest. It's a grand battle between
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: capitalist America and communist China, and we've got to compete
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: with each other to get as much of the world
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: as possible onto our platform, onto US rails. Exactly.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: This is the synthesis, isn't it. This is the final
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: synthesis towards one world control, because whoever controls this AI
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: system is ultimately going to control each nation.
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: State exactly as exactly correct. I mean, we've just heard
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: about Abu Dabe's this is a UAE Middle East but
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: it's also just in the past few days hit continental Europe.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: Let's hear from instant trying from Nvidia.
• 36:03
  Speaker 17: Congratulations to everyone gathered in Oslo today and to Prime
• 36:07
  Speaker 17: Minister Store and the Government of Norway on this important milestone.
• 36:14
  Speaker 17: The launch of Stargate Norway marks a new chapter for
• 36:17
  Speaker 17: AI infrastructure in Europe. We're entering a new industrial era.
• 36:22
  Speaker 17: Just as electricity and the Internet became foundational to modern life,
• 36:27
  Speaker 17: AI will become essential infrastructure. Every country will build it,
• 36:32
  Speaker 17: every industry will depend on it. AI is no longer
• 36:35
  Speaker 17: hand coded, it is trained, It is refined with massive compute.
• 36:40
  Speaker 17: It is deployed into factories, research labs and digital services.
• 36:46
  Speaker 17: Stargate Norway will be powered by GB three hundred super
• 36:50
  Speaker 17: chips and connect it with mb link. It is designed
• 36:54
  Speaker 17: to scale to hundreds of thousands of GPUs and support
• 36:58
  Speaker 17: the most advanced models in training, reasoning and real time inference.
• 37:04
  Speaker 17: Congratulations to Ndscale and to Josh Pain and the teams
• 37:08
  Speaker 17: who helped make this possible, and congratulations to Sam and
• 37:12
  Speaker 17: open Aye on being part of this important first for
• 37:15
  Speaker 17: the region. We're proud to support this effort to SYNTAC.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: To SYNTAC what came into my mind. Bent was I
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: think this story, this quote is right. But the man
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: who produced the first gattling gun machine gun said well,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: this is going to be the weapon that stops all
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: the war. So it's gushing enthusiasm for what they've created
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: without any concept what this is actually going to do
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: to humanity and mankind.
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I think he probably has some concept
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: of it. Okay, yeah, I think I think these people
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: at the top know exactly what it's going to do.
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: But essentially what they're saying is this is this is
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: gonna First of all, I've got a real that that
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: one heeds me because I'm caught in Norwegian. That's where
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: my mother's mother was from Norway. And he says twocentac
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: at the end there and that mean's a thousand thanks
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: in Norwegian, and I just really got to me. But
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: he's talking about a total transformation of everything. Right, So
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: AI apparently is going to become foundational infrastructure like electricity,
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: like the internet. Every country will build it, as we
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: talked about all and all industries will depend on it.
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: Everything is going to run on these platforms built by
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: these companies. And he mentioned got a little bit of
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: bit of video here we can see. So this is
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: in the North and Norway. Narvik. This his open a
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: Eyes European gigafactory, but that was introduced by Jensen's run
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: from in video who makes the micro the microchips, Opening
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: Iye makes the software. But they're also working with a
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: bunch of other companies to build the physical infrastructure. Importantly,
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: of course, with the pr perspective, this is all on
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: sustainable energy, is going to create valuable new jobs, it's
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: going to transform the Norwegian economy, political system, absolutely everything.
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: His touches on every part of society. And it's called Stargate,
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: so again it's the same name. Yeah, so it's almost
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: like Operation Stargate, right you think about the way that
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: you know, operation does as Stormail, Operation Stargate. It feels
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: like that kind of that kind of program to me.
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: And he also mentioned a guy by name, a young
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: man called Josh Payne, and Josh Payin is the founder
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: and chief executive officer of an organization called n Scale.
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: I've got this from his LinkedIn profile. He was also
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: from twenty twenty to twenty four the founder and executive
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: chairman of something called ARCon Energy and It's a really
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: fascinating name because in the Babylonian mystery religions, Arcon's were
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: the rulers of the world of darkness, but I think
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: that's probably just a coincidence. Absolutely. And then the final
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: role that he had was bats with the co founder
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: in chiefv executive officer, sorry, chief operating officer of Battery
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: Future Acquisition Corps in Sydney, which focuses on raw materials
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: for infrastructure. So this guy basically in the past four
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: years has founded and run the businesses across the entire
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: what they call the value chain for artificial intelligence, from
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: the raw materials used to build the technology to it
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: being deployed across industries in Northern Europe in this instance.
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: But before this, he's got absolutely no personal history. He's
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: got no track record. So if he looks, I don't
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: know was he looked late thirties, early forties young guy.
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: If you're on his LinkedIn profile, it stops there at
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: twenty twenty one, so we don't know who this guy is.
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: Who is Josh Payne? And this is really crucial, right
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: because he's building foundational infrastructure in the Northern Europe but
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: also from a UK perspective. He's building in England too,
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: because back in January they announced Nscale announced in vestment
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: of two point five billion dollars in the UK data
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: center industry over the next three years, and they are
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: actually they've already broken ground on another one of these
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: data centers in Louton in East London, in Epping Forest,
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: and Peter Kyle, the Science, Innovation and Technology Secretary, said
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: that their support n scale support will serve as a
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: catalyst for innovation, sending a clear message to Britain is
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: the perfect home from home to drive growth. Home home
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: from home suggests people that don't live here. It's his
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: international investor is coming in and using this infrastructure. This
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: guy who's only just turned up four years ago has
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: been given hundreds of millions billions of dollars to build
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: this infrastructure. He's doing joint press releases with the Secretary
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: of State. The BBC is running puff pieces saying that
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: this is going to deliver jobs into East London. And
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: we've got absolutely no idea where this has come from,
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: but we do know that there's an organization called open
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: Ai at the center of it all, with a logo
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: that when you flip it around and turn it back
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: on itself. Looks a little bit like that.
• 42:02
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• 42:05
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• 42:10
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  Speaker 14: Yes, thanks Brian. We have one that we'll be talking
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• 43:47
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• 43:49
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• 43:53
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• 43:57
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• 43:58
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• 44:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, thank you very much for that. And just to
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• 44:27
  Speaker 14: This is an incredibly important interview, Brian. This is part
• 44:30
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• 44:33
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• 44:36
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• 44:38
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• 44:41
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• 44:44
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• 44:47
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• 44:51
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• 44:54
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• 44:57
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• 44:59
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• 45:02
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  Speaker 1: you're going to take us into the realms of a
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: farmer and farming, which sounds to me like a bit
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: of a dangerous combination.
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: Say that again. Yes, we're going to have a look
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: at big farm. So I'm calling it this is where
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: farming and the pharmaceutical industries meet. Let's hear from Henry dimblebeep.
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: We're going to get there?
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Is that one going to come up?
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: I've been thinking a lot about appetites pressing drugs recently,
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: and I don't think food companies are even close to
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: being prepared for the kind of change that they might
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: bring to bear in our food system, both in terms
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: of what people eat, but also in terms of what
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: we grow.
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: What do we know?
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: So we know, for example, in this country one point
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: five million people are taking them. It took SSRIs and
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: Statins ten thirteen years to get to that level of consumption,
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: and people are paying two thousand pounds plus a year
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: for these drugs. We also know that the price is
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: going to come down. We know that they're going to
• 47:18
  Speaker 5: be available in pill form. We know that people eat differently,
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: not just less volume when they're on them, but different
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: quality of food, more fruit and vegs, less junk food,
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: less donuts, more fiber. And so if you play that forward,
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: what happens where we have a situation where convenience shops, supermarkets,
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: restaurants are selling a very different mix of food and
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: less food. But also our supply which has grown up
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: basically being built on refined calorie base of refined carbohydrates,
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: refined vegetable oils and refined sugar. It could change that
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: as well. So it might not just change what's on
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: your high street, it could also change what you see
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: and on our land, how our land is used. It's
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: going to be a pretty wild ride. And if you
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: aren't thinking about this in terms of your business five
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: years from now, it's probably time you should start, because
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: it's going to be a pretty crazy transition.
• 48:16
  Speaker 14: I think.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: That's encouraging crazy transition. That's what we need to help
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: run our lives KA or some crazy transition.
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: Exactly that, right, And the regular views will remember doctor
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: Liz Evans did a segment about two months ago, I
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: think it was talking about a zimpick and these weight
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: loss drugs and the fact that they're causing cancers and
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: there's been no proper oversight in terms of the regulator,
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: and actually they're destroying people's bones, and we've got no
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: idea of the long term health effects of these things.
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: And yet we've got Henry Dimbleby here saying that we
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: need to transform the food system in response to those
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: drugs because essentially they are here to stay now, right,
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: that doesn't strike me as a reasonable strategy someone in
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: the position of influence in the food system, and he
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: does have a significant influence in the food system. He
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: launched a fund last year we reported it at the
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: time to transform the global food system to disrupt it
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: and commercialize it for his own benefit. Ultimately starting here
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: in the UK. It's called Bramble Partners and we Go.
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: They're on a mission to fix what they call the
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: broken food system with investments and intelligence to create impact
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: at scale, and that's all about tackling climate change, obviously,
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: restoring the environment, improving health and well being, increasing food security,
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: all of the kind of buzzwords. Quite a lot of
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: occult symbolism on the website, to be honest with you,
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: there's the Masonic bee on there and also the hemetic
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: seed of life, so make of that what you will,
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: and that actually carries through to mister Dimbleby's LinkedIn profile.
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: You can see the bumblebee on the left hand side there.
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: We discover that a few years ago he was actually
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: the author of the National Food Strategy between twenty nineteen
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: and twenty two and I'll come back to that in
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: a moment, while at the same time working as the
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: lead non executive director at DEFRA and also working as
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: an external advisor to Baine, so there was an overlap
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: between working at DEPHRA and working with Bain and Bain
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: is one of the Big three strategy firms alongside McKinsey
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: and BCG, who are the basically dictate policy for global
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: corporate and increasingly for international governments as well, and they
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: are strategic partners of the World Economic Forum. So you
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: want to understand how wef policy gets inserted into the
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: UK government. It's three people like this doing dual roles
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: between public and private sector. And Bain fascinatingly one of,
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: notoriously one of the most ruthless, commercially ruthless consulting firms
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: in the world. And in twenty twenty two when mister
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: Denmleby was working with them, they actually got banned from
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: working in South Africa for ten years for orchestrating what
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: is called state captures. Essentially they repurposed state institutions to
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: the advantage of the firm, the government and its private
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: sector allies. Right, So I can't imagine that anything like
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: that was happening in the UK at the same time,
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: although it did actually lead to a three year ban
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: on delivering UK government work, which was overturned after just
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: six months. Apparently they really want to work with Bain. Obviously,
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: mister Dimmleby has now gone off to Bain, so you
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: know I'm sure that there's nothing going on here, nothing
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: nothing untoward. Yeah, absolutely. They also, interestingly Baine provided and
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: again I'd reported on quite a lot of this last year,
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: but it's useful to just restate this in the context
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: of how this is developing. Bain also provided supplementary evidence
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: to the development of the National Food Strategy. So actually
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: these are the people who are in putting into what's
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: going to happen next in our food supply. Also Dave
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: Helping from Behaving Insights team is in the mix as well,
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: and in there they talk about the food system as
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: a series of interconnected industrial processes. It's a value chain essentially,
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: from left to right, all the different component parts, lots
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: and lots of big corporates.
• 52:10
  Speaker 13: In there.
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: You can see a Tesco logo and Mars Tait and
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: Lysle all those kinds of people. They're particularly interested in
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: this bit though, produce. This is farms basically, and the
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: big weakness apparently in the UK food system is that
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: there are too many independently owned farms and we need
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: to consolidate those into corporate entities that can trade more
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: effectively with the other big corporate component parts of the
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: supply chain. And interestingly all the bramble Partners, Henry Dimbleby's
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: firm up to they just launched a few months ago
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: the one Million Hectares Coalition, a new national movement to
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: regenerate a million hectares of UK farmland in the next decade.
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: And it's about five percent of our total farmland and
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: that will very neatly align with the interests of the
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: pharmceugical industry and international capitals mister Dimpleby talking about in
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: the video shared at start.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, incredible, regenerate million hectares and at the same time
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: we destroy farming land to put in the renewable energy
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: right system. So complete madness and chaos, but deliberate. But
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: I noticed that the people taking control of the food
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: supply were already embedded in it. Are regarded as players.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: That's how they were labeled in your diagram. They're merely
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: players in the food system.
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: Indeed.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, a quick change of subject here, and really
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: I'm going to pray see this. We'll discuss it more
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: in extra time. But last Monday's news I did report
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: that a gentleman had been had his home invaded and
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: rested by South Yorkshire police. His computers taken and this
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: was all because he'd done thirty years worth of research
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: into the cover up of child really incredible research. I'm
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: going to say this individual is well known to the
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: UK column His work is exceptionally good and over the
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: years he's been able to show that the cover up
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: of child abuse has run through the very systems and
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: organizations that say they're there to protect children, such as
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: the police, but also into the government systems itself, such
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: as the Grand Prosecution Service and the higher levels of government.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: Now just give you a flavor. South Yorkshire Police have
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: now said, well, because we know that some police officers
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: were involved in what was going on, we were going
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: to originally let ICPO investigate and that's now been passed
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: on to the National Crime Agency. But just to set
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: the scene with one of these slides, will make sure
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: that all this information is available in the show notes.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: This is Haley Barnett, the Assistant Chief Constable of South
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: Yorkshire Police. She said, well, this is a very sensitive
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: investigation and the victim survives of steadfastly remained our number
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: one priority, of our number one priority. Over many months.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: I've had conversations at the highest level with IOPC and
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: the National Crime Agency to ensure these courageous women truly
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: remain at the heart of our work and that the
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: mode of investigation remains appropriate. So it seems an extraordinary
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: coincidence at the very time that South Yorkshire Police is
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: very nervous about its implication and indeed that of other
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: forces in not only child abuse but the cover up
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: of that abuse, that suddenly somebody who's investigated this subject
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: for thirty years using primary public sources, is raided by
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: the police. All of his computers and information is taken,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: and he goes through what he felt was a pretty
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: brutal interrogation in the police station where he was held
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: in a pretty cold cell, denied food and medication at
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: one point, all because he has pulled together public information
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: which demonstrates this cover up. So I'm going to say
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: that UK column will actually cover more of this report
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: in due course. But if we just say put this
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: slide up here, we've basically got the comment from Haley Barnett.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: She says, it's for these reasons and a mutual agreement
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: with our partners that I've asked the National Crime Agency
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: to take ownership this operational work. But a lot of
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: questions need to be asked as to whether the arrest
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: of this man and his thirty years of data about
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: the cover up of child abuse is to enable South
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: Yorkshire Police and it's partners to whitewash government failures to
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: protect children, or indeed to actually protect people in the
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: system who were abusing children themselves. So this is quite
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: a story. We're going to stick with it and we
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: will give you more detail and we'll discussed more in
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: extra today.
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: Diane.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: Let's come back to you and your pardon. Let's just
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: finish this one and I should be able to bring
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: up your section and you're going to talk to us
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: about the subject of wildfires and really some of this
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: amazing fear factor around super hot summers, clearly when I've
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: got that in Plymouth today, But be fearful of the temperature,
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: stay locked in your house. There's going to be fires,
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: there's going to be plagues. This is terrible fear mongering.
• 57:55
  Speaker 14: Oh absolutely, Brian. I'm seeing it all over these so
• 57:58
  Speaker 14: called local papers on social media talking about you know,
• 58:01
  Speaker 14: locker room windows, don't go outside because it's burning, global
• 58:04
  Speaker 14: boiling out there. But I want to bring you back
• 58:07
  Speaker 14: to yesterday. There was a fire that broke out on
• 58:11
  Speaker 14: Arthur's Seat in Edinburgh. If we have I think we
• 58:14
  Speaker 14: have some video of this to show what it looked
• 58:16
  Speaker 14: like yesterday before they started to fight the fires. Basically
• 58:20
  Speaker 14: what happened was in Edinburgh, of course, in the August.
• 58:23
  Speaker 14: I was there last weekend. This is the you know,
• 58:25
  Speaker 14: the Edinburgh Fringe Festival, in the International Festival. Lots of
• 58:29
  Speaker 14: things going on in Edinburgh over the summer in August
• 58:33
  Speaker 14: and unfortunately Arthur's Seat, which is the big extinct volcano
• 58:37
  Speaker 14: that sort of overlooks the city, broke out in the
• 58:40
  Speaker 14: terrible fire yesterday. And this is also happening when Oasis
• 58:44
  Speaker 14: concerts are happening all at the same time with the
• 58:46
  Speaker 14: festivals going on, so one hundred and forty thousand fans
• 58:49
  Speaker 14: over the first two nights sold out at Murrayfield Stadium
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  Speaker 14: by Oasis, as well as a third one that will
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  Speaker 14: be coming on Tuesday. According to the Scottish and a
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  Speaker 14: Fire Rescue Service, this is a terrible summer for wildfire.
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  Speaker 14: I was across Scotland, including at the Highlands, and it
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  Speaker 14: said the Highland wildfires are considered so far the biggest
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  Speaker 14: Scotland has ever seen and so we're seeing in Edinburgh
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  Speaker 14: and in Scotland where you know, you would not assume
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  Speaker 14: that there was would have been a problem with water
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  Speaker 14: in Scotland because it's kind of everywhere. That's just a joke.
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  Speaker 14: But anyway, so tied to this, we're seeing wildfires in
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  Speaker 14: the south of France and I last got a very
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  Speaker 14: quick article to be by Neil Harrison late last week
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  Speaker 14: on Friday actually, and we decided to prioritize this editorially
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  Speaker 14: because he's a frequent contributor to UK column, I'm happy
• 59:40
  Speaker 14: to say, and because the wildfires were going as he
• 59:44
  Speaker 14: basically wrote this article and sent it to us for publication.
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  Speaker 14: And what he said at the start of this article
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  Speaker 14: you can read the full thing, but just to understand
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  Speaker 14: the scope of this fire in the south of France.
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  Speaker 14: He was writing this on day four, close to where
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  Speaker 14: he has a house. He said, at the moment, ten
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  Speaker 14: thousand hectares of land in the department have been burnt,
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  Speaker 14: many villages completely gutted, transport, an electricity cut over a
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  Speaker 14: vast area, and a flamefront that yesterday took up a
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  Speaker 14: length of eighty kilometers. So he goes on to talk
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  Speaker 14: about how desperately the firefighters have been working very hard
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  Speaker 14: to stop the fire, but has not been happening. He
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  Speaker 14: talked to some locals there and one person said, quote,
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  Speaker 14: all of our children here are taught that the best
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  Speaker 14: way of controlling fires is our vineyards. They are natural
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  Speaker 14: fire breaks. Vineyards are watered, the vines are covered in green,
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  Speaker 14: wet leaves, weeds and dried grasses are cut. But unfortunately
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  Speaker 14: it has been government and EU policy to rip up
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  Speaker 14: the vineyards and return the land to the wild. And
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  Speaker 14: as he pointed on the article, the scientific justification for
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 14: destroying vineyards to satisfy Agenda twenty thirty requirements is based
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  Speaker 14: on soil degradation, loss of organic matter, erosion, low carbon
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  Speaker 14: sequestration compared to natural vegetation or AGGO force. So I
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  Speaker 14: think there are some important questions for us to ask here.
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  Speaker 14: We're seeing breakouts of wildfires because it's apparently global boiling everywhere.
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  Speaker 14: What is causing these fires? Are there reasons for this
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  Speaker 14: that are related to Agenda twenty thirty and sustainable development goals?
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  Speaker 14: Or is it just because it's so terribly hot The
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  Speaker 14: fires are breaking out everywhere. Are there arsons involved? There
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 14: have been a lot of questions around this, But I
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  Speaker 14: think it's just important for us to maybe think about
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  Speaker 14: this and I ask the question about why it is
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  Speaker 14: that so much is happening around wildfires this summer.
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  Speaker 1: Very much for that. Apologies about the footage there from Scotland,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm sure many people have seen the film clips
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  Speaker 1: or wider media with regard to the wildfires or just
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  Speaker 1: add that. Of course, one of the things we were
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  Speaker 1: told by firefight is in America when some of the
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: really big woodland fires were burning there, forest fires were burning,
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  Speaker 1: was that in many areas, the firefighting teams have not
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  Speaker 1: been allowed to create fire breaks or indeed deal with debris,
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  Speaker 1: very dry debris on the forest floors, and this was
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  Speaker 1: helping to create very very intense fires with rolling fireballs
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  Speaker 1: going over the tree canopy and jumping considerable distances. So
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  Speaker 1: firefighters in America, some of them at least blaming the authorities,
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  Speaker 1: saying that they were preventing the firefighters from actually doing
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  Speaker 1: pre emptive work to stop the fires. Let's just end
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  Speaker 1: on a positive note, Diane, and you've got a very
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  Speaker 1: lush green picture of UK here. I don't think it's
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  Speaker 1: very likely fires are going to break off breakout in
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  Speaker 1: this environment. What is your message for us.
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  Speaker 14: Well, I just wanted to say to get out and
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  Speaker 14: enjoy it while we can. Don't forget it is summer.
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  Speaker 14: It is summer holidays still for children, and we all
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  Speaker 14: should be just getting out and enjoying the beautiful weather.
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  Speaker 14: This was me a couple of days ago going to Bridge,
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  Speaker 14: which is a beautiful village up here in the northeast
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  Speaker 14: of England, in Northumbria. And as we can see that,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 14: well you can't see in the photo, but the village
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  Speaker 14: car park was completely packed and we can see people
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  Speaker 14: there walking to and from the car park across the bridge,
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  Speaker 14: across the river, enjoying the cafes and the shops and everything.
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  Speaker 14: And I spent a few hours there and just enjoy it.
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  Speaker 14: So feel free to do the same, because the warm
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  Speaker 14: weather is what we're supposed to be experiencing here in August,
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  Speaker 14: even if it is the UK.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's called the summer, Diane. And yes, wonderful weekend,
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  Speaker 1: lots of people having a very good time outside in
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  Speaker 1: the sunshine. And we say to our audience do the same.
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  Speaker 1: Get out there, fresh air, sunshine, relax and enjoy some
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  Speaker 1: normal life with your friends and family and good normal people.
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  Speaker 1: We must end it there. A huge thank you to
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• 1:03:59
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• 1:04:02
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• 1:04:09
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  Speaker 1: and Diane. We'll be back for UK Column Extra in
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