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SEASON 2 DA CREW PODCAST_EPISODE _37 _ HOST DR CHENIZRA · DA CREW Podcast

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Hello, Hello, Hello, and welcome to the Crew podcast. I am
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the Visionary Queen Angela and welcome to season two. I want to thank you
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you for tuning in and for all of your support throughout season one. We're
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that show procos is true. Have a promise in this here life song call
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April, what's right? Lip prvous and everything so we can live. I
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have a promise and all you do just make show realizes is true. And
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greetings this time tonight. Usually you know, I like to listen to the
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music for the duration of the entire piece. I am really grateful to be
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able to be joined this evening by a very distinguished and illustrious guest. But
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before we get to her coming into our studio space, I just would like
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the person to take a moment of reflection of silence on what transpired on this
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particular day, April fourth. It's really important for us to think this through.
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April fourth had a significant impact on the history of humanity in nineteen sixty
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eight, when the illustrious Honorable leader Activists, doctor Martin Luther King Junior,
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was assassinated in Memphis, Tennessee Halls. May his great works be remembered for
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generations, and may his legacy through his children and their children and their children
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be respectfully honored in regards to social justice and activism African people globally and for
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humanity globally too. I think it's really important. A lot of things have
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been happening today, and I know there were observances and some persons did not
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get the opportunity to really speak truth to power in that regard to recognize what
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took place on this day in nineteen sixty eight. So with that being said,
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I'd like to ask my studio engineer to bring in our guests so that
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she can join us in the platform as I prepare to share what I consider
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a relatively short introduction. We have joining us this evening the Honorable Her Excellency
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Ambassador Doctor Fidelia Gallon of Surinama, and I will leave her to speak of
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where Surinama is. For those of us that need a geography class, I
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encourage you to go quickly Google scholar and as the Ambassador of Surinama, she
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is currently part of her portfolio is to serve as the ambassador of Surinama to
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the Republic of Ghana as well as to Kenya Republic of Kenya. And so
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she is hailing in it is midnight for her. She's hailing with us from
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Akarana and greetings and good evening, your excellency. Greetings, my Queen.
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I don't know how to express my gratitude fort tonight as coming from a country
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called Surinamou is a Dutch speaking country. The official language is Dutch, so
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please bear with me with my English, she tried. Evening to everyone that
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is participating in this broadcast. And I think the founder of this program,
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and I thank you, my queen mother, doctor Chencer. We met years
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ago, but physically met last year. I thank you. It's an honor
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and privileged of excellency. So I just would like to give some context so
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the person to know who this very humble yet very powerful ambassador is. It's
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important to just know some of the background in terms of again her proficiencies in
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multiple languages, as she shared Dutch as well as English as well as Spanish
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because her portfolio has required that. And in addition to her having doctoral mastery
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and studies and humanities, as well as connections to graduate work in seminary international
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activities, she is also very skill in sociology is one of her other areas
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and disciplines, and I think it's very important so that when you speak,
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we understand that you're speaking from a very clear sociological place of reference and that
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you're offering pedagoglogical, educational frameworks for persons to really understand what is going on
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in our societies, in our communities. She has been involved in gender equity
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and gender mainstreaming. She has been involved in personal leadership and logical framework and
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approaches for how to engage in ambassadorial work, studies, and international development in
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areas of finance. In addition to Millennial development goals that are connected to the
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United Nations, She's also served in a variety of areas where she has in
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addition to being presented credentials from the leadership the president, the current President of
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the Republic of Ghana, she is also so been an ambassador and I want
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to make sure I get this term very clear. An ambassador extraordinary plenty potentiary.
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I think that we need to that's like vocabulary skill sets when we start
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to say these things. And she could served in previous years from two thousand
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and seven to twenty fifteen in that capacity as the ambassador of Surinam to Trinidad
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and Tobago, and she has been very much so involved in various faculties around
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social sciences and her individual research, you know, inclusive of work at the
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University of Rena. I think it's also very important to highlight that she's been
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involved in rural development and foundational development in various communities in Surinama and globally,
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and also serving in various scientific research groups and circles that are tasked on providing
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surveys around traditional authorities within central administrations. As she's continuing that work in Ghana,
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as she has done that work in Trinidad and Tobago, as that work
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is being extended into Kenya, and of course in her home country of Surinama,
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she has been very instrumental to the development and it serves as the president
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of the Maroon Women's Network Foundation in Surinama and also on the board of the
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Maroon Women's Network Foundation as well. And some of this work, and I
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think it's important to identifies that when we're speaking of Maroons, we're speaking of
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those persons that that liberated themselves from any form of enslavement and sustained communities settlements
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that were sovereign. I think it's really important to get some of that clear
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for persons that may not be as familiar as is what is Marinaje and just
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being part of the Maroon network. And she has been instrumental to the Maroon
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women's net work, which is thousands of women strong in Surinama and has spread
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throughout the Caribbean Americas, certain parts of the Americas as well as the globe
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Africa, inclusive of courts. I think it's important to know that she has
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been also instrumental to a very recent series of awarts around the twenty twenty one
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Pioneer Award, Every Girl Wins Institute by founder and CEO, doctor Christine roberts
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Kozak out of the US. And it's like I would be speaking for the
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rest of our broadcast if I started to give recitations on the various certificates of
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appreciation, the various citations of honor that she has been so graciously awarded in
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Africa, the Caribbean, Americas and abroad. I think it's really important and
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with that, I just would like to welcome and share my most humble appreciation
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to you, your excellency, Ambassador doctor Fidelia Glon. So thank you so
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much for just joining us here on a new legacy. We're really talking about
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building a new legacy always. How do you build a new legacy, you
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know, and this is just an opportunity for you to share a little about
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course Surinama, because there's much to learn and also what are some of the
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public affairs that you've been able to celebrate and be engaged in in Ghana.
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We know that recently you expanded your portfolio, you know, being receiving your
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credentials from the President of Kenya as well, and we know that there are
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other things forthcoming in other parts of Africa in the world. So thank you
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again most humbly. I will take my leave there as I ask you to
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just share some of the narratives the legacy the importance of Surinama in this conversation,
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whether it's in the Caribbean, the America's Europe, Africa, everywhere.
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So thank you well. I will just I will just like to thank you
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very much, doctor Chancer. I feel very honored to be recognized by you.
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As I always tell everyone, I'm just a village girl. And I
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will talk about Surinama. Uh. Surinama is a country of diversity, is
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a small united nation and it's the only country in South America that speaks that
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has Dutch as the official language and Surinama has. The ethnicity in Surinama is
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so diverse you might think it's a small united nation. We have people from
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different ancient nations that are living in Surinama for over one hundred and fifty years,
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so you regard them as Turnameis people. It's part of the Surnamese nation
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and they have a lot of good impact in the history of Surinama and the
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economy, culture of sur and culture of Surinama. Currently, our president name
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is Chandri kap Sat Santoki. If you listen to that name is someone from
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Indian descent but his surnames. And we have the people from Java, Indonesia.
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We call them Javanese part of the Tsunamis community. We have Chinese people.
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The Chinese people that are living in Surinama speak to two languages, Mandarin
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and the other one please forgive me. Two types of Chinese languages are being
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spoken in Surinama and they have their own institutions. We have the African Turnamis
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community. We have the indigenous people's communities of Surinama, meaning the natives and
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the natives there are like about seven to ten native tribes in Surinama indigenous and
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they all are still keep on to their original languages. And last but not
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least, we have the African Surnames community. And it is interesting for Surinama
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that Surinama has seven different African based languages. We have the Creoles and the
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Creole language. When you speak that language, it seems like you speak a
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little bit what you have in Jamaica and Sierra Leone. We call it the
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Surnames language or Sorranantngo. That is in that language Sranan Tongo. I like
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how that sounds too, is a g on the and Sranantngo that is the
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lingua franca of the country. And then you have a six Maroon languages.
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These Maroon languages come from six big rivers regions in Surinama. And the first
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one that I will call is the Samaca language. We regard that group as
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the largest Maroon group at the Surinama River. And then the second largest is
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at the east of Surinama and it's the Okanissi group and they speak Ocanisi and
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they are known as Juka because the river that they establish themselves, they call
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it Juca. But later on those who came to do a scientist came there
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and to do his research and call it the Tappanahoni River. So that is
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where the Kani tribal people are living. They are living in two other rivers
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which are Kotica River and the Camawaana River. So you can find this tribe
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in these big rivers. And more then we will let us stay at the
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eastern part of Surinama. We have the Aluku people called Bonnie Bonni or a
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Luku tribe. They are at the border river bordering river in the south side
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of Surinama and French Guyana. There is where they live. They have their
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language, We call them Aluku. And then we have the Pamacaa. Pamaca
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people are living in the Maruaana River. They share that river together with the
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Okani people as well. And then we will go to the center of Surinama
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where the Surinama River. Next to the Surinama River we have the Saramaca River.
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So in the Surinama River you have the Samaca people living, but in
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the Saramaca River you have the Mattawai people living Mattawai and they speak Mattawai.
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And in the last but not least, we have the Quinti people. They
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speak Quinti. So the languages that I speak are saran Antuno. It is
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the linguas Franca. But my the language the I learned to speak is the
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Ossi language. Because I belong to that group of Maroon that live like they
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are still in Africa. They have chieftaincy. The paramount chief of the OCANSI
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the paramount chiefs. The title of all the paramount chiefs is gar Mank like
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we have in Ghana Garmanche, but there are six gar monks. They are
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paramount. And then we have clans and each clan has several chiefs depending on
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how many villages this clan has. So I belong to a clan as well,
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and we have a lot of chiefs. And then you have an overlord
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as the iord them. Seeing it here in Ghana. The overlord is that
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is a leading chief, but we don't call them chiefs. We call them
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captains or kaby ting in the language is kabyte derived from captain as the Dutch
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called gave them the title of captain. You know, this influence is always
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there, like how I see it here in Ghana. The chiefs have their
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own title like I know the the You have a Sanahini. You have a
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lot of named toby's uh, you have the oh Mahine. We have a
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lot of title that is not but when you come into English, you call
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them chiefs. And the same goes for Surinama. They call them kaby ting
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uh in Surinama. So that is about Surinama. We have other nations in
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Surinama, but they are in smaller The numbers are not that big, but
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we have people all over the world. But the unique thing about Surinama is
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the inhabitants. The population is only six hundred thousand, and if we take
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the size of the country, we are like about thirty three times bigger than
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the country that I served Triniad and to beg the landscape is big. The
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the inhabitants is only seven percent and ninety three percent of Surinama is forest.
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We are rich in minerals because we belong to the green belt that comes all
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over from the northern part of Ghana the Atlantic Ocean. So we share the
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same continent as West Africa. Let me see Ghana. So the minerals are
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there. We have oil and gas, we have a box side, we
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have gold, we have diamond, we have clean water in abundance, and
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we are very clean. The that we delivered to the world is u is
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just amazing. So that is Surinama, and everything goes to the fact that
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the diversity is also uh in the way we speak the languages of origin.
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So if you come from India, you still speak Hindley and you speak Dutch
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and you speak Sar. I will keep bid to that level. Plusama.
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Well, no, I'm so grateful that you gave us that chronological history,
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because some persons don't recognize that there is a space called Sernama that is in
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South America that is literally very rich, very very very land rich as wealth
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resources. So then it explains to persons why it was used in many respects
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in history as a place of resource for certain forms of colonization. Hence some
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of the things that have transformed as it is now. It is now independent,
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you know, I think it's important for persons to also just get context.
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So we talk about South America and most people think of Brazil, and
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it's important to know that the northern portune that you know, the Surinama,
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Surinama touches its southern border, touches Bracil. So I think it's important to
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know that particular part and that and directly to its east it's it's eastern border
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touches French Guyana or what people refer to as Guyana, right, and that
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to its western border, Surinama is next to Guyana, which in previous years
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this British Guyana. So notice what's happening here. You have an English speaking
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Guyana with a Dutch speaking Guyana in the middle, and a French speaking Guyana.
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French speaking Guyana, thank you to it's to its east, and it's
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really important to just know the dynamics of this place, this country, this
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space, to know, you know, And you know, I like always
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going into certain facts because I too like to share data like you do.
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And I think it's important for persons to know when you're talking of a space
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with six hundred thousand persons and its population and it's sixty three thousand square miles.
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That just lets you know that population density is not their issue. So
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there's a lot of land, a lot of water, a lot of minerals,
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a lots of wealth, and that also invites certain things that don't always
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work in the best interests of everyone. So we're just kind of highlighting so
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persons can know, I've been where with one hundred and sixty three square kilometers
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as we can see it like that. Yeah, yes, we can put
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it in that in metric as well. Yes, And I think it's also
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important for persons to know that many times when we're speaking about Caribbean issues that
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sometimes even though the people of Surrenama are part of our Caribbean spaces because Poppet
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it right, they're inside of CARACM, the Caribbean community. They work with
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the African Union. That was one of the joys and privileges of being able
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to meet physically Her Excellency Ambassador Doctor Fidelia during the invitational KA Reparations Conference that
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was hosted in you know, on the invitation and leadership of the current President
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President, His excellency President Adult and I think it's important that persons also recognized
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that there were several elements in that conversation. So you had persons speaking from
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the Caribbean, Caribbean Community CARA COM, You had persons speaking from the Caribbean
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and African Network, other agencies. You have persons speaking from the forty eight
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Contiguous US around these reparatory justice pieces. Then we have representation in the embodiment
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of representatives coming out of the Netherlands, out of France, out of the
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UK and England, as well as members of the African Union, members of
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the African Jurists Organization, and a variety of other agencies. You had repatriates
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from the Americas, the forty eight Contiguous US and the Caribbean and South America
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that reside in God and under your leadership, there's been a reconnection and a
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very engaging connection of work and recreation, i should say, but particularly a
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lot of new relationships that allow for collaborations with our sisters and brothers of Surinama
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through your leadership. You know. So I'm hoping that the President, you
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know, the Prime Minister, is the leadership the administration of Surinama are hearing
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this that you have really represented the Republic of Surinama exceedingly well in terms of
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making sure that people know about Surinama, know the connections to Surinama has to
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East Indian culture, two Africa, traditional continental culture, to Maroon culture,
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to Asian culture, to Eurasian culture, and just to the world. So
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the persons do not think of where's signa what is that I mean? Because
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no, I remember you know you were able to say these things floor you
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said it in your presentations, you said it in your publications, and I
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really wanted to take this opportunity in time to commend you, your excellency for
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bringing that type of history and then showing us the connections that it has to
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African global culture and traditions, you know. And then you also are able
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to give us some context around you know, preparatory justice, reparations, decolonization,
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you know, and you always offer your support so prely. So I'm
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very grateful. I'm very very very grateful. Well, thank you the gens
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RAP because I don't know even I don't even know where to start, but
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let us start where we know the best. Yes, right, the diversity
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of Africans in Surinama and the history people are asking me Just recently, I
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met some young people and I asked them if they know where Surinama was.
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They said, in Africa. It's sound South African. And I had that
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experience. About twenty two years ago. I was invited by African Studies Department
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of UCLA to travel with them to India and it was sponsored. My ticket
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was sponsored and I ended up going to Trinidad and Tobago to fly from Trinidad
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through the US to India, and my ticket didn't arrive. They sent my
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ticket to South Africa because those who were sending the ticket taught Surinama was in
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South Africa, not South America because it was just the abbreviation SA. So
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they taught South Africa. And look how close we are with the United States
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of America. So I had to wait, I had to call and they
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luckily they purchased another ticket for me and I could. They canceled that one
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and I could go. That is the same up until today, even when
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I was in Trinidad and Tobago as the ambassador, you would have the first
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question to me where I came from. Someone just came to me. You
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know, those who know me, You saw me with my regalia as the
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maroon regalia. Someone came to me in Trinidad and Tobago and asked me,
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are you from Malawi. I said, well, I don't know, but
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I was born in Surinama, South America. Oh okay. And then again
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they would always refers to me, are you reverred to me as the wife
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of the Nigerian ambassador. I'm like, well, maybe I'm Nigerian, but
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I was born in Surinama and I saw Surinama, South America one hour and
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a half away from Trinidad and Tobago. So people would be surprised of the
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story. But the history is that all of US African people in Surinama were
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shipped about four hundred years ago from Ghana, the West the Gold coast of
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Africa. Then in the seventy in the fifteen hundreds and sixteen hundred, seventeen
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and eighteen one hundreds through Surinama History SSS, there were three hundred and three
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thousand Africans that were shipped from the coast of West Africa to the coast of
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South America Surinama. What happened in those years there has been a lot of
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war, war warlords. We're there out of Africa and their names are very
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significant up until today. The the the as soon as a turnamis enslaved,
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someone enslaved in Surinama fled slavery, they will go back to their roots.
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So I now understand the names of the the names of the warlords. Then
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you have a do or we call it a Do because of Dutch is a
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name here in Ghana. And you add a jacko in Ghana they say a
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jacko. Uh. This This was one of the leaders as well, and
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one of our most feelers. All of them were feelers. Bonni is only
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when I came here as ambassador in Akraghana I heard that Bonni means leader.
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You are the leader there and a lot of stuff has been going on.
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And these people are my people who are freedom fighters. Still have their names
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and the villages that they have. Even I recently heard something that I never
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expected that my own grandmother's name is a communities, a community in the northern
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part of Ghana called tom. I thought it they just found the name,
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but they give the names of where they came from. We even have words
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and that is in the Creole and the Maroon groups called Jaja and Judja comes
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from a Nigerian. A phyllis Nigerian king in the Yoruba nation of Nigeria.
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So there is so much, so much kept well kept and preserved in Surinama,
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and not everybody is aware of it. I always see people on Facebook
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when mister Whatemaya went to Surinama. When you read the comments, they say,
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oh, never heard of that country and even the dance styles. And
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we even have a village called Daoumi, and I hear it's related to Benin
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and Daomi is a very sacred village in the sense of religion. But the
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to to make a point very clear here is that if the Africans were not
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in Surinama, Surinamo would not be what it is today. When slavery was
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about to be abolished, they shipped Chinese from China is like one hundred and
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seventy years ago. They took the Chinese to where the Africans and slave were
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at the coast of Surinama, a place called Coroni. We call it a
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coconut district. And Coroni, you are a fighter there for freedom even in
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slavery time. You want to live better. Tata Colain meaning father, Colin
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Colin means like looks like Colin's Tata Colleen. He was a fighter also,
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but he did not went out of the district, but he fought for his
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existence for his people. And even schools are called after him, the Tackling
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School. You have also fighters in the time of slavery that they were caught.
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We have a statue for emancipation and the statue is placed there in Paramaribo
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for the first of July when an emancipation came became a reality for Cerinama in
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eighteen sixty three about not about his last year was one hundred and sixty years
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ago and ten year after slavery was abowledged, they brought in our brothers from
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India and they brought in others and sisters from Indonesia. So that is the
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the historical UH composition of Surinamma. The indigenous people were there, but at
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some point all of us know in all over the Americas that they were.
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They could not they ran away and they could not bear the slavery, so
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they went and lived in freedom in the hinterland of Surinama. So what we
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have in those days even UH, the importance of culture in Sirinama is there.
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When we celebrate Immigration Day, and and also days of religion like Ramadan.
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We are in Ramadan, we celebrate that. And we have Muslims holidays
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that came from Asia to Surinam, and we have Chinese holidays when they celebrate
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the year. I believe this year is the year of the Dragon, if
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I'm right, And the Africans also celebrate their holidays the first of July and
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the tenth of October. Why the tenth of October, that is the first
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date that peace treaty was signed and there were no more war with the Maroon.
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That was tenth of October seventeen sixty seventeen sixty, one hundred and three
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years before slavery was abolished in Surinama. Slavery was abolished in on the first
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of July eighteenth sixty three, and the treaty was signed on the tenth of
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October by the Ocanissy Maroons. And in nineteen seventy four, a Maroon warrior
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in his own time, mister Andre Pacossi, got some African surnameis people,
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both Trioles and Maroon to agree on the tenth of October, because that is
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not the only date of treaty. Signing treaty with the Dutch colonial leaders.
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We have the eighteenth of September, if I'm not eighteenth or nineteenth of September,
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where we have the Sammaca treaty that was two years after the Vcanisy signed
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the treaty with the Collar leaders. And then you have two other tribes that
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signed that treaty after some years with the colonial leaders. So the governments came
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together this then, young man, I will say da Andrei Pacossi got the
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Paramoun chiefs together to agree on a national day for the Maroons in nineteen seventy
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four and Guest was only in two thousand and ten this date was recognized by
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the then President of Surinama as a national holiday celebrating Maroon Day. So this
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year will be the fourteenth consecutive year that it is known as a holiday in
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Surinama. But since nineteen seventy four, the Maroon community was those who were
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young, young men and young women in that time were celebrating Maroonde. Then
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I was too young to know about it and I was out. So that
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is how Maroonde was established and we celebrated. So we need to give the
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recognition to those who work hard and the leader to work hard to recognize Maroon
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de for this reason is mister d Andre Pacossi. He lives and he works
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in an island. He has written a lot of books. He has his
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Sabana Petty Institution is known. He's giving some awards as well, and I
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believe a lot of us received awards from this institute. Of the of this
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Maroon institution. What I want to say to is that we have embassies Asian
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embassies in Surinama, but there are no There are ambassador accredited to Surinama from
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the African countries, but Surinama doesn't have residing African ambassador in Surinama. But
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there I don't know. For as long as I know, even before our
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independence in nineteen seventy five, India has an embassy there. China has an
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embassy Indonesia as an embassy and they have their cultural center. The Cultural center
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of Indonesia is in the northern part of Surinama UH. And then you have
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Matta Koori which is an Indian cultural center UH in Surinam. For and even
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the Chinese have two different Chinese cultural center directly from China, directly from Indonesia
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directly, but the African surnames. We have our own centers for practicing African
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culture and one of them is NATS that is a Creol UH center. And
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then we have uh AS an African Institute where they UH still practice afric study
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that you can uh imagine about the Maroons and about the Creole, the plantations
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and everything, and the music is still there and they have everything, not
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only nights, but I'm referring to the African Sunamis community. Different dance styles
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and one big thing is that we think a nanzi is ours, You're going
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to have a big story and his wife. We still tell the story.
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We still have the some songs. And one important thing that we can relate
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to the Caribbean as well is the Kumanti language that they've made created at Fort
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Amsterdam kuman Si in Ghana when they were captured to be shipped. And this
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Kumanti language you have it in Jamaica Maroon communities as well. Yes, well,
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I'm just grateful because you have given us a very clear picture of where
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Surinama fits in international affairs as well as inside of South America. Also,
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that connection is a wide breadth of space that touches the Atlantic Ocean and I
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think persons just need at some point to just do their own personal research to
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see how these spaces, how these places help to be part of the building
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of legacies. Sometimes you may see someone you know in your neighborhood and think
48:31
that they are speaking as if they come from only a Caribbean island, not
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understanding that they may be coming from a really large space out of South America
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or Central America. And I think it's really important for persons that are not
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as familiar with Surinama. You know, what you've graced us with, what
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you've given us in context provides a very big picture. And I wanted to
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just compliment part of what you were saying because I know we are in our
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in our last segment of tonight show, because easily we could do this for
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ours And I want to thank you again, your excellency, Ambassador doctor.
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But can I tap it reparation a bit? Of course, of course I
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will be very brief, very brief concerning reparations. I think the University of
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the West Indies professor his name, he was coronated Paramo Chief of the University
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of the West Indies, doctor Sir Hillary Becals. Yes, I don't know
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him personally, but tell him I know him because of his resporation legacy affecting
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Serinama as well. But what I want to say about reparation is that when
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the Africans went there, they repaired two they went back to Africa. They
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live in Africa. They never call themselves. Their identity is Africa. So
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what I want to say in this regard is that the Africans that left Africa
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forcedly never forgot their identity of Africa. So what are we repairing? What
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we repair is not the African identity they never forgot. So I think I
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speak for all of the African people living outside of Africa that they never forgot
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about their African identity. But what do we need to repair? The languages
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that we lost, the culture, the dignity that they wanted to take away.
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We need to repair with our African brother and sister in the continent of
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Africa, that we never left Africa. Yes, Peter saying about it,
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no matter where you come from, as long as you are a black man,
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you're an African. Yes, the African identity has never been lost.
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But we need to come together, identify ourselves and see ourselves. You see
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what things like fufu. My ancestors that has lived in the village in the
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forest of Surinama never forgot about fufu and never forgot about gary. Because they
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are making the gary, call it quaka and they are making the fufu,
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and they never forgot about their okra. And I believe through out the Caribbean
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the gary they call it farien, and they call it farien in Brazil.
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But the practice by the people of Surinama is still there and the cassava or
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is so very powerful in their culture. But not only that, the languages
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and the words that they had in Africa. They still have the words,
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but we need to repair our languages that we were speaking in Africa. And
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the dignity and the institutions. Sometimes we think that universities in the Western words,
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they are the universities that we but Africa's university sometimes is a virtual university
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that exists for hundreds of years, with signs and with cultes and with a
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lot that they still have and they are founders of so many And I want
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to leave you with one contribution of one surnameise person that people don't know that
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that person came from Serinama is New Orleance story. The founder of the shoemaking
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machine is an African curnameise man called young Matt Seliger. And everybody has a
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shoe factory, and Surinama has contributed to it because the founder was born in
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Serinama to an African mother. And I wantation, let us repair, let
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us come back spiritually. When I say spiritually, I don't talk about religion,
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but I talk about the spirit of Africa that is still strong in the
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people of African descent that are living elsewhere, that are that cross the Atlantic
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Ocean and still live Africa. One thing people of Suriname are doing when they
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are among themselves, they still call themselves kan kan African, pure African.
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I've been seeing this all over whenever I've been interviewed. So reparation we started
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it long before, and we have prepared ourselves long before. Let me say
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four hundred years. The Africans outside of Africa have prepared to return, and
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they are all Pan Africanists. Like the great leaders of Pan Africanism in Africa
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and outside of Africa. We want to thank them. I'm just a dot
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in uh in the in the great things. I'd only got myself as great
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as well, but we have to contribute as we can. Thank you,
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Thank you so very much, your excellency, Ambassador doctor Bidelia Galloon, who
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serves as the Ambassador of Surinama. We've learned a significant amount where it's located.
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Every one, you know that essay refers to South Africa when we're speaking
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of Surinama as well as she is there and as an ambassador to the Republic
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of Ghana, also the ambassador to the Republic of Kenya, and there's some
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expansion. Next time she joins us, we will see how her portfolio is
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ship. As we get ready to close tonight, this particular broadcast is building
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a new legacy with our speaks and it has been your host, ween my
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the Senate Doctor Chanzera. I'd like to close with a quote on reparations.
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Reparations are essential within the global human rights movement and best complimented with extreamline respectful
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dialogue, with practical reconnections, implementation of the colonization Protocols, sustainable prosperous economic
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exchanges and reparatory justice frameworks linked to actionable deliverables within and through a continuum of
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global reparations, and the character justice and movements always saying freedom. We speak
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of our dis foreign, indiguenous African cultures and traditions, and we ask if
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everyone continued to really bring that kind of energy in the forefront of all that
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and respectfully keep building a new legacy, beget thanks and praise. I think
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that that is probably my time and I want to thank you again, most
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honorable excellency, doctor Ambassador. Doctor. I need to make all of these
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thanks. I'm just known as Muffy Dey. You might make your simple Muffy
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day. That is my nickname for years and years now. So that's it.
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Thank you, doctor Ma Chancerah. You're a mother because you care.
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You care for old and young. Let's not underestimate it. And I thank
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you with all similar Maroon friends. Mister phil Fixico, that's right. I
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thank him for making me know you. That's the greatest thing that happened to
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me. For knowing you. Doctor Chen, you are like a pull of
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the Caribbean, one of the pulls of the Caribbean. Because I don't want
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to disregard anyone. You are precious to us. Keep the good work.
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God bless you with wisdom and more power. You know in Jesus Mighty name,
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I say so, I don't see I see him in the color that
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