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The Postman: Death Stranding, House of the Dragon & She-Hulk · Multiple Nerdgasm

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  kima's mind is weird and I don't understand it welcome to multiple
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  nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and
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  Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
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  Things nerdy so I finally got to play Death
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  stranding aka the baby in a backpack game AKA Norman Reus the game yes oh
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  that's right yes it's got some other SS in it too um I've I've played like the
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  first couple levels I have no idea what is going on I really don't I'm not sure
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  you're supposed it's it's weird oh you know who's in that game guo Del Toro is
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  in it is he as a character yeah think he's a doctor or something if there's a
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  fat Mexican doctor that's him oh yes that's him yeah there you go yes he's
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  there but yeah I don't I'm carrying around this baby that evidently helps
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  but I if I die I can come back to life and as no no no I come back to life as
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  myself because of the baby if not because of the baby the baby's meant to
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  help me see baby's incidental the monsters is it your baby cuz if it's not
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  you should give that baby back to its parents no it's just a random baby where
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  did he get it where did you get it don't just say I've got a random baby and then
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  justand baby don't ask too many questions about it yeah yeah the game
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  starts and goes you have a baby don't ask I keep it in a
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  backpack no so you get it because you go on part of a corpse disposal mission
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  that goes wrong God sure oh yeah sure is there a right way of a corpse disposal mission to
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  go well yes you just dispos of the corpse and then the cops go was there a
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  corpse here and you go no I don't think there's cops in this game if you don't
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  dispose of the corpse it will blow up the corpse will blow up no one wants to
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  get bits of corpse on them yeah yeah after 48 Hours the corpse will
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  blow up and destroy everything around it so you got to take it some here's the
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  thing I don't quite understand so to stop this you have to incinerate the
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  body and I was going well why don't you have the incinerator in the town why do
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  you have to travel why don't you just let it explode if you're going to
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  incinerate it anyway it's well no cuz the explode like basically creates a
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  crater of where the town is okay right and so the reason why you have to take
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  it somewhere else to burn it is because it puts all these stuff in the
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  atmosphere and brings the monsters type of thing I think I I love it when the
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  Japanese ride games that's what I was going to say like this actually sounds
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  like I might like it in a way it's like it's that thing George Lucas talked
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  about when he did THX where he said when you watch a Japanese movie and you don't
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  know anything about Japanese culture and it's just so forign to you but you're
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  like okay but that's why I love Japanese game developers when they set games in
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  Western settings like this or like Castlevania I love because it's so
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  Western in its setting but it's so Japanese at its core yes it's got other
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  things dialed up that we wouldn't dial up it's just like cuz if I take out the
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  parts I don't understand about the baby and the monsters and stuff and fact I
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  come back to life what is the
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  game what is this my mother oh Norman
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  re's mother is the president of the United States okay okay who just gets to
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  be the president even though the world's been destroyed pretty much
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  y she dies and then he gets sent on mission to rescue I think it's his
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  sister okay or something from the other side of the country he's been held
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  captive but as he travels across the country he needs to activate settlements
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  or something okay is this first person do you see the baby thir third person so
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  you're behind the character you see the baby so it's you your eyes then the baby
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  in a backpack and then Norman Rees no the baby is in front of you so you don't
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  really see the baby but look oh it's like in a baby beorn you just see the
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  legs coming down it's in like a little sack of fluid isn't it oh God hold on
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  I'm looking this up it's called a bridge baby Bridge baby am I going to regret typ in
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  this in I saw the trailer when they announced this and I was like yeah I
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  don't know so long ago but because it wasn'ts it wasn't Xbox it was okay this
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  is not what I was thinking you're literally holding a little a like a little fetus I don't
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  even know what to call this uh little room thing in the baby inside it's like
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  a it's like an artificial am otic sack yes but the baby doesn't age or grow or
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  anything and a baby can't live outside of that like it's yeah so the baby's not
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  going to grow up that's just the b i i don't yeah it's weird but but but what
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  is the game play like what do you actually do in the game okay fine the
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  story's B the story's bad [ __ ] crazy right but it must have a game Loop right
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  where you do something all all I finished the first like two sort of main
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  levels and all I seem to all you're doing is delivering Stu
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  okay like you go and you you're going to be delivering packages between
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  settlements is what it looks like okay so you and it's all about just what you
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  accept deliveries you put them on your backpack and then you have to walk there
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  and you try not to damage the package before you deliver it or the baby
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  presumably or the baby what does the baby do why do why do I want the baby
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  with me the car play has Dooms or something which allows you to sense
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  monsters around okay the baby when it activates will allow you to see ah when
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  the baby activates these monsters so you can try and hide from them how do I
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  activate I love games where you have to imagine that the Creator was like
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  started out his pitch with now hear me out well well this is the thing Kima
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  doesn't have to St Kima goes well that's like they announced the
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  Xbox when they in the Xbox showcase at E3 they just said kajima is making a
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  game with Microsoft that's all you need to know that's it cuz that's all he's
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  telling us he's not telling us either and you've already pre-ordered it based on that
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  so but like I'm even playing the game not watching a television show or a
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  movie or I'm just playing the game I'm enjoying it yeah I mean the best review
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  Luke can give any medium to put on their poster is I didn't watch TV while I was
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  playing it held his full attention yeah cuz I tell you what I've started
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  watching recently m um interviews with um interrogations with like murderers
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  and stuff oh yeah fascinating up in the anti not um oh is it something criminal
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  psychology the YouTube channel it's a really good one um oh yeah there was I
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  think it was what was it PCS or something yeah yeah yeah yeah it might be the same one JCS
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  JCS yeah that's a good Channel he he quit he quit about a year ago oh that
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  explain why all these videos just yeah all these videos just getting
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  demonetized or was he murdered oh no you basically went like there's no point me
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  doing this I put a lot of effort in and well that's why when that the videos are
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  still up and they're getting millions of views but they're already monetized so
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  he's not get getting anything stuff that breaks the terms of
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  service I guess well it's about murders yeah yeah well like he he did I learned
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  about Chris Watts from a video he did about Chris was before that Netflix
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  documentary came out and it just basically he just literally has all of
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  the footage like the the the body cam footage and the interview footage and he
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  just he kind of explains what's going on gives context and stuff like that and
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  it's very like it's good because it's not there's no bias or anything he just
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  presents this is then this happened then this happened then the guy you know and
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  eventually he admitted that he killed him and it's like yep yeah does he just
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  research these or is he an Insider of some sort that gets his hand on this
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  stuff I guess um he's researched he's got like a like a psychology background
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  type of thing he definitely sounds like he knows what he's talking about MH but
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  yeah it's just I just find so weird like it's demonetized so he can't make any
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  money from it but YouTube's benefiting from it still by getting millions of
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  views from it like that just seems yeah it's [ __ ] yeah I mean that's yeah it's
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  a flawed system and especially for what it is it's not it's not yes it is he's
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  not sitting in a PO in a bikini
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  talking about maybe if he was it' be all right maybe if he was yeah but yeah I'm
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  just be watching those I thought they're very interesting I don't know why no no
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  I agree they scary actually interesting I I like those because I have a I have
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  enough kind of selfawareness to like sometimes ask myself if I'm a psychopath
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  you know what I mean like just like am I behaving in a way normal people behave
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  am I thinking thoughts normal people think you start think think like yeah
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  but and then I watch these I watch these shows on and Netflix has got a bunch of
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  great they're doubling down on the serial killer Doos you know and I and I
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  watch them and I go oh no I'm fine I'm fine these people are [ __ ] wired
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  different to me yeah yeah they don't have I'm not at risk of becoming a
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  serial killer I would have known by now if I was going to be yeah Ted Bundy
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  didn't go oh maybe I'm not normal he was just right yeah you goal anyway who
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  cares I'll just [ __ ] his head and also I'm handsome so probably a to convince
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  people this is fine I've worked out what to do though in interrogation is shut
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  the hell up sure oh absolutely yeah liar up and don't say anything one of the
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  most interesting ones was the guy who who uh this was a big news story with
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  the the guy who shot the kid at the gas station you did you watch that one it
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  was like an older white guy shot uh oh yes I did the kids that were in the car
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  yeah a group of young black kids pulled in and he asked yelled at him to turn
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  the music down and they wouldn't and then he said shot one he he said he
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  thought he was pulling out a shotgun and so he shot and killed this kid and then
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  as it was just really interesting because you watch him he's clearly
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  flustered right and you can tell he's he's just making this up there was no
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  there was no shotgun right sure and the cops know that too cuz they've they've
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  got this dead kid and they've got the car they know the who they are there's
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  no there's no question but you just watch this guy [ __ ] just talking
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  himself into a prison sentence by like and they're just like okay tell us more
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  about that so then what happened okay cuz before you said you said this
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  happened but now he's saying this is what happened I just want to clarify so
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  what what is it that actually happened and then he's like oh you know he pulled
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  out a I saw him lift something up okay what did he lift up Oh I thought it was
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  a shotgun oh okay so you saw the shotgun did you when he lifted up the W I didn't
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  see that oh okay cuz before you said you saw a shotgun it's like it's really
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  interesting M mhm and then like as luk said shut up yeah stop talking like yeah
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  like cuz look honestly what happened was he yed some kids he then got scared and
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  he pan that's what really happened yeah he was worried they were going to attack
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  him because because he's a bit racist cuz they were black and he was yelling
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  at them and yes yes yep yep yeah and that's what that's that's essentially
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  what happened he was yeah yeah he's got his way the and I like I sympathized
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  with him to a point because if he wasn't allowed to have a gun on him then no one
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  would have gotten shot yeah like all he would have been was a racist old man
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  yelling at fing temper mate just like just control your temper well there's
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  that too but there's control your temper and there's control your temper when
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  you're carrying a gun they're two completely different things yeah true
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  but look one you have to watch Matt [ __ ] getting so American here he's
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  like I don't know Dad guns don't kill look one you have to watch which I
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  think is the most interesting was on so it's on the JCS criminal psychology
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  channel is um there's something about Casey yes I've seen that one too you
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  have to watch that one there okay I will that one that one's a roller coaster send me a
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  link there's one that I watched which was um a man killed his wife and two
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  kids and then put them in a a water tank or or something likeis Chris wat that's
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  Chris wats yeah yeah yeah that yeah that was the Netflix one that whole thing is just done
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  by they just let him talk himself into that sentence as well by by by saying to
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  him oh um because he was he was like no I didn't my no I didn't kill anyone and
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  then they're like maybe your wife killed the kids and then you had to kill her
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  and he's like yeah I just had to yeah that is what happened yeah yeah and
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  they're like okay so you did kill your wife he's like yeah yeah I had to kill
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  her and it's like and and you killed the kids too didn't you yeah I just I had to
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  kill yeah I did do that too yeah you got me yeah true true yeah or I think even
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  after that I think there's still a bit of conjecture about whether he actually
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  did murder the children or not or whether that kids he told the police exactly
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  where the bodies were I think he knew exactly where well he definitely hit the
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  bodies he definitely hit the bodies but there is still like is he just sort of
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  still is there some truth to it that he didn't the wife sort of snapped and then
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  he I don't think so from what I could glean from it the cops just planted that
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  in his mind so that he would cop to at least this is this is not in the
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  documentary okay this is after that there's still it is possible that he was
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  just sort of like I'm going down and he he doesn't want her to be seen as it is
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  possible but it's possible but he doesn't seem like the kind of guy that
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  would take one for the team but I just love that whole the whole the whole
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  investigation everything just starts from the neighbor going he's never acted
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  like that before his car not usually weird yeah but yeah that's a great
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  documentary because it's not there's no like Nar or anything it's just
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  here's Camp footage and here's the interviews and Away you go what was that one
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  called something next door something like that murderer next door Mur next
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  Str next the devil next door yeah Chris Watts lives next door and he kill you
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  live next door to Chris Watts killer
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  yeah yeah also earlier when I said um keep your mouth shut if you're guilty
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  feel free to talk [ __ ] you I mean if you're in just watch out cuz the other
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  problem is we know this happens is that they'll try to trip you up even if
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  you're innocent because oh true unfortunately they're not incentivized
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  necessarily to catch the killer they're incentivized to catch somebody solve
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  cases and if they can't figure out who the Killer is it might as well be you so
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  just watch an interview with um an interrogation of like a career
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  criminal and he's like yep I'm here to help you and they go so someone broke
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  into your house a while ago the D he's well why am I arrested for that and he's
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  just like very much like I'm I'll happy to help you but I'm not going to discuss
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  anyone um you're talking about people breaking into my house and taking stuff
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  well why would I be arrested and why are you questioning me over that like it's
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  when I'm not reporting anything yeah don't off you watch that one about the
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  guy who just um would would uh confess to any crime and so this one local this
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  one local precin just anytime they needed to close a case they' be like you
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  did this one and you like yeah did that one I sure did I enjoyed that one yeah
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  if we tell you where the body is could you lead us right to it yeah one
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  detective who was like where he was in [ __ ] Washington State when you're
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  saying he killed someone in Florida and they're like and the other guys I know
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  amazing right what a killer I know what it is he must be the fastest driver in the
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  planet mhm but yeah good stuff well like I said they're not closing cases is
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  unfortunately something that they are required to do otherwise they lose job
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  if they're not closing cases so I think they should change the law so that um
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  the defense for a um defendant what do you call that it's just a defense
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  defense I think there should be more court cases where somebody halfway
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  through goes you know what I think my client so did this pretty sure it's now
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  that I've heard everything I think you might have been guilty of this crime I
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  think it's illegal to do that because because it doesn't matter what you think
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  and it also just because because there I mean they might still not have done it
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  even if you think they did but it shouldn't matter it shouldn't matter how
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  well you argue that shouldn't be whether you're guilty or not whether how well
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  your La supposed to be about the evidence but yes I see what you're
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  saying yeah if you get a sh if you get someone who [ __ ] then you're [ __ ]
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  anyway a defense light will trying will still go like if you did it like they
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  will they won't try oh you did it okay let's try and work it how to get they
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  will be trying to like maybe you should look up taking a deal maybe you should
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  and we try and argue that down i' rather not defend you if you don't
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  mind mate so can we just wrap this that great movie from the 9s where the guy
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  hires a bad lawyer on purpose so that the criminals get off so that he can hunt them down
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  himself I think it's called sleepers oh that's the one in New York
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  but there's something in New York bunch of kids a bunch of kids killed a I have
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  seen it's got Brad a hot dog vendor Yeah by throwing down the stairs
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  I have seen that yeah they get sent to juvie and then years later they Kevin
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  Bacon's in it yeah Kevin Bacon I think rapes them in prison yes that's right
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  and then years later he's up on trial and they purposely get a dud lawyer to
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  represent him right so that they can get him so that that he gets off and then
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  they can get vigilante justice they should have just called the movie
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  vigilante justice was a much better name or some kids kill the hot dog vend
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  Kevin hot dog Kevin Bacon rape vigila Justice
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  murderer yep yeah definitely sleepers yeah yeah no that's good good movie look
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  speaking of murders and buildings oh hold on I've watched all of season 2 of
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  only murderers I was going to say shut mouth just don't don't admit to anything
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  no I think I'm allowed to admit that I've watched the show right okay yep we
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  finished it lasted watch as okay so it's all out okay I'll start yeah y good [ __ ]
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  let me just say yes it's I won't spoil anything I all I will say is that I
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  expressed some concerns and it kind of one it sorted all that out I think it
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  okay it wraps up in a way the where I was like oh okay I should have given him
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  more credit I guess but was the um the murderer that unfunny comedian that
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  lives in stings old apartment no in fact
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  she just disappeared thank God look like good oh that's great that's that's yeah
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  I don't understand her point of her character at all she was in what two
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  episodes very briefly yeah but it wasn't like with sting who it's oh he might
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  they go up there few that was so funny that that was one of my complaints if
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  you recall was I said oh they got all these celebrities in there and it's
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  distracting well that just stopped good maybe they heard Matt they were still
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  editing by that point and they were like oh the multiple gasm boys aren't really
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  into this so we just cut a few of these celebrity cameos out God it's so funny
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  though yeah I want to see is it the same kind of humor as season one more of the
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  same yeah yeah good yeah like Steve Martin manaw are just so funny still man
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  in particular [ __ ] hilarious he's at his absolute best in this because he can
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  really chew the scenery I mean both of them can yeah but but his that's his
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  character in this that's why it's so good like he's just he's being
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  ridiculous yeah we're getting one more season and then I think Steve Martin's
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  gone like I don't this might be it yeah you know what they should might be end
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  and it's a great way to go out they should do an actual podcast about
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  it like they should they should do an actual pod scripted podcast next that
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  would be great no I reckon I reckon he's got like this is this is where you
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  retire like if you get into that age just go look finishing he was at that
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  age when I was a kid I I think we've always s that I
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  don't know how he's still alive how old is he I think it's just because he's
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  been gray or white he says he says in this season he says they're talking in
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  the car at one point and he says something about I think he says he's 78
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  years old and I was like Steve M 78 like he looks good for what I imagine a 78y
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  old to look like back to my grandparents and I'm like think about not yeah
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  exactly they weren't millionaires though to be fair he's had some work done yes
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  exactly yeah he pays other people to look after both of them you know what
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  the funny thing is though and I don't assume this hasn't changed since the
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  second season I love the way he dresses in this and I was like when did it get
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  to the point where my style Guru is a
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  78-year old man but like his like funky
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  shoes with the pork pie hat and the you know sto P trousers and I'm like this is
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  a [ __ ] great look I want this look Dan do not buy another hat hey hey I
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  wear my hat all the time I just bought the wrong hat a few times I was like
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  what Happ all the Hat I told you not to buy you all the hats hey I regifted that
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  cowboy hat and to someone and I think they it suits them more than it suits me
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  but I've got many hat purchased a cowboy hat I got so many hats and I was looking
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  at them and I was like which one list I'm going to pop a picture maybe none of
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  these is the correct hat no but one the thing Jen was like just wear that hat
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  like that one no don't listen to her because it took me years to find the
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  right hats and now I have the right Fedora and I have the right like flat
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  cap I've got the right flat cap I'm pretty sure and they're both brickton so
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  yeah right there's a tip for you I found my brand Luke got his Beret on yeah I
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  know we're not even going to talk about the Beret I'm going to I'm going to pop
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  up a picture of the cowboy hat on our Instagram this week and I I want the
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  listeners to weigh in or whether they think it was a a great purchase or a
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  horrible mistake they're the only two options I want to hear it's we already
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  know the answer so Dan bought it during his little boy Texas
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  phase which is a flashback to Matthew
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  mcon yeah I even think your wife put a a photo up and had a vote on it and it
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  didn't go well for you I think it was please tell my husband this hat does not suit
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  [Laughter] him and you know what my boss weighed in
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  on that too I was I was like my boss at the time was like please take that hat off
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  Danny and what have we learned you should always listen to Luke I wore an IND a
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  literal Indiana Jones hat around America you bought there yeah and no one told me
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  whether or not I looked silly so I'm going to assume I didn't look may I told
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  you it looked great and I stand by it all right not you can that that hat you
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  can make work I still have it when when you wear a hat it's fine when the Hat
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  wears you that's when you're in trouble I think the cowboy hat was wearing me
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  it's actually also probably a good hat for traveling it's got that bit of a
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  wider brim so it coops the sun off a little bit more yeah that's a good point
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  yeah well work worked for Indie I've got different hats for different weather and
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  depending on what I'm doing I like Luke has Infinity hats but it still feels
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  that it it's okay for him to judge other people's hat
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  buying cuz I wear them and I make them look good sorry he judges everybody
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  everything buying this is the guy who accidentally bought a phone cuz he
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  didn't realize checking out with PayPal meant buying a
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  phone I do buy a lot of stuff I just brought two new um controller Chargers
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  this week oh did you did you get brought the razor ones no my they've shipped it
• 24:08
  well he's on he's on his red one at home now and he's waiting for his other one
• 24:10
  to return yeah got my red one but yeah now I can just place it down and it
• 24:15
  starts charging the Ferrari controller oh Ferrari Ferrari had a pretty good uh
• 24:20
  couple of laps in the in the first practice this weekend y driving around
• 24:25
  in a circle well L clar starting at the back though yeah but because of a
• 24:28
  penalty right well they all are so yeah yeah we'll see what happens yeah I just
• 24:35
  I get the idea of Formula 1 I just I couldn't watch it couldn't just couldn't
• 24:40
  watch it just no couldn't do it there's not a there's I I want those people that
• 24:45
  I will watch it if there's going to be crashes I will there's always [ __ ] crashes
• 24:49
  mate I don't have to watch the entire thing and the races aren't actually that
• 24:52
  long are they're like 2 hour races are yeah about about that not even that
• 24:56
  sometimes you're about 60 laps yeah but yeah like the whole thing is to really
• 25:01
  enjoy it you have to watch three days of it really so you watch the practice
• 25:04
  sessions then you watch the qualifying then you watch the race and you could
• 25:07
  watch highlights of everything except the race I think if you wanted to yeah
• 25:11
  yeah I don't know the qualify is quite important to in some ways that's more
• 25:15
  important the race yes but that's funny though because this
• 25:20
  weekend it's not because they're going to qualify but then half of the blood
• 25:24
  field is just took penalties cuz they all swapped out engine components that
• 25:27
  they weren't Tech allowed to so they're all starting at the back so it's like oh
• 25:31
  okay so this race could actually be interesting then I think it actually
• 25:34
  might be yeah I think possibly this is one of the ones where somebody who's
• 25:37
  normally Midfield might win we see CU yeah for me like I'm not a formul one I
• 25:43
  haven't watched a lot but my experience with it is is the person who sort of
• 25:47
  qualifies first is normally the person who wins and it's yeah there's not a lot
• 25:52
  of overtaking that happens in Formula One that's different this year yeah it
• 25:56
  is because now there's more passing yes well they just they they they changed
• 26:00
  the cars they changed the rules the cars are different and basically Mercedes
• 26:04
  don't have the massive Advantage they used to have which is why that used to
• 26:07
  happen yeah you think they changed it cuz I think they were sort of losing
• 26:11
  people cuz there's no sort of overtaking then why am I watching people thought it
• 26:16
  was boring you watch the qualification and you know yep okay and now I know the
• 26:20
  the results I'm done yeah I mean this year there's been four or five drivers
• 26:24
  who have always been in one to fifth place just swap swapping each other out
• 26:29
  unless a couple of car problems have
• 26:33
  eliminated them and then yeah just not interesting it is interesting yeah I
• 26:40
  made fun of Matt for so long and uh it didn't take long for me to to to see the
• 26:44
  appeal did you watch the race where I forget I forget which one it was it it
• 26:48
  was one of the more recent ones where everyone was so busy focusing on like
• 26:53
  Red Bull and Ferrari and then like Louis Hamilton just went flying by at one
• 26:56
  point did you that race so good yeah cuz they were like they were like trying to
• 27:02
  stop each other and that and then he just went around the outside of him so
• 27:06
  good my brother [ __ ] hates Hamilton I'm like why do you hate Hamilton he's
• 27:09
  like he's such a smug bastard there's so many bigger smug bastards than Hamilton
• 27:13
  he's like they haven't all been kned and I'm like okay fair cool he's very like
• 27:20
  he he what do you call I guess woke I guess but but I don't mean that in a
• 27:25
  negative way he's just very outspoken and he's very like he just doesn't put
• 27:28
  up with any [ __ ] and he'll call it like he sees it and I think he puts people
• 27:31
  off that way cuz he's like he's always on a cause about something and which I
• 27:36
  know is I think that's good Claren is letting Daniel Ricardo going and I don't
• 27:41
  have to look at his smug face again and I know that I should stand by the big
• 27:45
  noosed Australians named Daniel but just can't you know what I like about him I
• 27:51
  thought he was very eloquent when he was stepping down and he's was giving his
• 27:55
  reasons for stepping down I was like okay mate if you talked like stepping
• 27:59
  down we mutually agreed that I would leave with a full season's pay yes my $2
• 28:06
  million a year contract for a year I'm not going to be driving for you yeah and
• 28:12
  there's an opening in the team that I left that maybe will ask me back anyway
• 28:17
  and I'll get to race and I'll get paid maybe but but will buckton asked him if
• 28:20
  he would take a sabatical for a year and he was like yeah maybe yeah he said yeah
• 28:26
  he said he didn't want to he didn't want to just fill a space yeah yeah now good
• 28:31
  on him wish I got paid that much yeah I
• 28:36
  know right to do nothing they paid him to go away yeah yeah well initially they
• 28:42
  paid him to drive really well and he didn't well initially he did and then it
• 28:47
  just didn't didn't continue like he does like blaming that car though he does
• 28:52
  maybe I mean that is quite a bit of it you know what I I'm in the wrong career
• 28:56
  I want to be the dude who just [ __ ] sits on the walkie-talkie and talks to
• 29:00
  the driver and just says uh okay your teammate's coming up behind you you need
• 29:04
  to move out of the way cuz he's gone faster than you sounds like a great me laugh
• 29:10
  sometimes when the drivers have a [ __ ] and they're like oh you know the the the
• 29:14
  wheels are coming off and the engineer's like okay made a note of that yep noted yeah
• 29:19
  yeah there was a great one there was yesterday last night where I can't
• 29:25
  remember who it was but he's like I'm in the gravel and the guy's like we saw
• 29:30
  yeah my favorite is um was uh [ __ ] what's the Kimmy Rin and quote renan was
• 29:37
  a very funny F1 driver who just wouldn't put up with [ __ ] he would just like walk
• 29:42
  out of an interview of you asked him a dumb even just a dumb question it's like
• 29:45
  oh you know was it did it feel good to win the race he'd be like what do you
• 29:48
  think and they just like walk off yeah yeah and the thing cuz he'll get fined
• 29:55
  for that he can afford it yeah yeah oh yeah so they're telling him he's he's
• 30:02
  trying to race and then the engineer comes on trying to give us some [ __ ] he
• 30:05
  says I know he says leave me alone I know what I'm doing you don't have to
• 30:08
  remind me every 10 seconds yeah
• 30:14
  amazing cuz yeah I I can understand like it would be annoying like you know
• 30:18
  you've done something wrong you know you screwed up and you've got someone who's
• 30:20
  about to explain to you that you like I I know go away let me get
• 30:25
  back focused instead of yeah yeah you telling me what I've just done wrong is
• 30:30
  not going to help but that's my favorite part of it is that banter between
• 30:32
  between the the engineers and the drivers I mean even even just like in a
• 30:36
  couple couple of races ago when charl Clair ended up in the wall and was out
• 30:40
  of the race and you could just hear his blood curdling cries of no yeah that was
• 30:47
  heartbreaking man he was so
• 30:51
  upset his fault too just [ __ ]
• 30:54
  up yeah yeah yeah that's I I one thing I don't know a lot about driving an F1 car
• 31:00
  but I do know you don't drive it into the wall yeah that's right you will not
• 31:03
  win [ __ ] pressure on those guys like even just when they're where they're
• 31:07
  qualifying and they're like you're P9 mate and he's like I'm sorry everyone
• 31:12
  like just oh did you hear here today when the the stappen did that [ __ ]
• 31:15
  amazing lbby like 145 or something and then they told lir oh Thea's time is
• 31:20
  this andair was like sh that's very fast like like I don't think I can beat
• 31:26
  that yeah well the CL for sten's 80 points ahead so there's no way anyone
• 31:31
  can beat him at this point really we'll see okay we'll see you're
• 31:37
  probably right I won't I mean my boy SS is driving like a [ __ ] like a bat out
• 31:42
  of hell he literally set his car on fire a couple of races
• 31:46
  ago that was terrifying MH yeah yeah
• 31:51
  anyway yeah welcome to multiple fangasm all right no more F1 talk um so I
• 31:58
  watched a couple of shows this week well I watched one show in particular that I
• 32:01
  wanted to talk about but I wanted to just give a shout out to something I
• 32:04
  attempted to watch and turned off cuz it's [ __ ] awful and that's sheh I
• 32:08
  can't do it I just cannot do it it's the tone is just it's so silly I don't I'm
• 32:13
  not into it but I read that they address
• 32:17
  the Edward Norton swap out really Luke
• 32:22
  tell me about this I hav I may have missed that I don't remember or that
• 32:27
  hasn't come up yet maybe it's an episode that has only just dropped I think the
• 32:31
  great you weren playing death stranding while you watched it so we know that no
• 32:34
  definitely not I think the greatest thing I've seen was at the end of season
• 32:38
  one where she just screams Captain America
• 32:41
  Fox the end of season one end of episode one I definitely didn't get up to there
• 32:47
  don't yell out spoilers for the end of the season one no it's not the season
• 32:52
  the spoiler is that she gets [ __ ] by Captain America but which Captain
• 32:55
  America is it is it the Anthony Maggie version or is it no it's it's
• 33:01
  so she's trying she's trying to find out if like cuz she's going like he was
• 33:06
  young he was in the 40s he did this he was then Frozen like she's Captain
• 33:11
  America hasn't had sex and then the hwk exps no there was a girl during the USO
• 33:14
  tour and then she just screams Captain America [ __ ] and that's also that girl
• 33:19
  is um confused about this show I guess I
• 33:24
  need to watch one it's it's it is just ridiculous it is silly and it's just a
• 33:30
  nice change cuz it's so over the top so you don't know what Dan's talking about
• 33:34
  when he says it addresses the Edward n switch but Dan has seen something that
• 33:38
  indicates that they address this so now I'm really curious so you don't know
• 33:42
  what he's talking about I've just read what did they say I've only read the
• 33:45
  headline I didn't want to read the article I wanted Luke to explain it to
• 33:48
  me yeah I don't know if it's come up yet
• 33:52
  okay cuz well that yeah I don't seened no no no to be honest it might have been
• 33:58
  a tease for an episode coming up come to think of it cuz it was Mark Ruffalo
• 34:03
  addresses The Mention Of Edward Norton's character and the swapping out of Bruce
• 34:07
  Banner and I was like oh that's interesting but it might have come it is
• 34:12
  it is in episode two cuz I do know that they is first person that she's going to
• 34:16
  represent as like She-Hulk attorney at
• 34:18
  law is Tim Roth okay uh we played
• 34:23
  Abomination huh so he's in it okay interesting all right maybe I will
• 34:29
  push on maybe I'll rff is always uh dropping spoilers anyway maybe he was
• 34:35
  just goofing doing a fake spoiler did you see that I put this in the article
• 34:38
  this last week was the Owen Wilson thing about Marvel spoilers MH where he said
• 34:44
  that he uh he did an interview where he said all he said was his character has a
• 34:51
  mustache in Loki and he got a text from a number he didn't recognize after the
• 34:56
  interview that said strike
• 35:02
  one and then whoa and then someone explained to him yeah you can't do that
• 35:09
  don't say anything don't don't say anything about it yeah he said he just
• 35:12
  got his text and said strike one he was like
• 35:14
  wow yeah that's Gusto
• 35:19
  [ __ ] um maybe having Edward Norton in it I'm sorry Edward Norton having Tim Roth
• 35:25
  in it is what they mean by addressing the Edward Norton as in they're tying it
• 35:30
  back into those early films it is possible that this was just [ __ ]
• 35:34
  clickbait and they don't actually didn't you used to look didn't you used to look
• 35:38
  like Edward Norton at one point Eric Barner is Eric Barner no it's
• 35:44
  not no no but that one's not canon but the the Edward Norton one should be
• 35:49
  Canon it it it is isn't it no I don't know if they include it they avoid it
• 35:56
  but it should be it is Disney even if you look at the you say watching
• 36:00
  chronological order it's not in there I think I could be wrong about that but I
• 36:04
  think it have a selection that you can just watch all the Marvels in
• 36:07
  chronological order that's a good yeah that's what we did when we got we got
• 36:10
  home from the hospital with lra and we just did that for the first I had to go
• 36:13
  on redit and find a list and then do it that way when I did it that's
• 36:18
  great um okay maybe I'll give that another go I watched something else this
• 36:22
  week that was good and I want to just run I I just want to tell you guys the
• 36:25
  story line and just see if you guys can guess what this is or if you think this
• 36:29
  is a bit familiar right so it's a it's a political show it's a show about
• 36:32
  politics and it's a show about one country that has a two-party system
• 36:36
  that's a little bit broken right right um and you've got you've got the kind of
• 36:41
  the the good half of the two- party system that are a bit kind of inept and
• 36:46
  uh don't function very well but the the the the alternative is really bad so
• 36:51
  people prefer the way that things are but because of that it means people
• 36:55
  maintain the status quo and nothing really Chang and people just play
• 36:58
  politics rather than just trying to improve and women are trying to fight
• 37:01
  their way into Politics as well but um it's just not going well for them and
• 37:05
  people are starting to think that if if this if this kind of infighting that the
• 37:09
  country has between the left and the right doesn't end soon there might even
• 37:12
  be another civil war and I'm talking of course about the new Game of Thrones oh
• 37:18
  what oh that that's right that's the prequel thingy isn't it yeah um it's
• 37:23
  very good it's very good I would even say it's slightly it's slightly better
• 37:28
  than the first it's it's basically season 1 Game of Thrones level quality
• 37:33
  right and it's back to just people in
• 37:36
  rooms talking about politics but it is so and because it's based on a a book
• 37:42
  that's not really a book it's based on a book that's basically an index of events
• 37:47
  they've pretty much got free reign to write these characters any way they want
• 37:52
  providing they hit certain historical points as long as like this side this
• 37:56
  happened how you get that's up to you and so they've essentially just made
• 38:00
  this America with swords how many boobs and dicks um no
• 38:06
  dicks a couple of oh well there's one there's one or scene say there's one or
• 38:13
  there's one or um there's um there's a couple of boobs but they're very small
• 38:18
  you know the girl from um well actually she's from devs which I'm also watching
• 38:22
  at the moment but she's also from XM oh sure yeah yeah yeah she she she's in
• 38:28
  there with her with her tits out cuz she that she's does that in both of those
• 38:32
  other too yeah correct although in Dev went out of their way to make her look
• 38:37
  unattractive with the clothes and the makeup and their hair they made one of
• 38:41
  the most beautiful women in the world very unattractive but yeah she's in this
• 38:44
  back back in full form um and she gets banged by um doctor who who who was also
• 38:50
  very naked that's right Matt Smith's in it yeah oh I wasn't going to say which
• 38:55
  doctor who might have been Tom Baker [Laughter]
• 39:01
  McCoy Sean per is he's still alive man I
• 39:05
  don't think so no um my dad met John per wait really no Sylvester McCoy Sylvester
• 39:11
  McCoy my dad met Sylvester McCoy not spoken about this before in a
• 39:15
  pub in uh in England somewhere one time arguably one of the worst doctors but
• 39:19
  the first doctor I saw because he was the doctor in the 80s so therefore still
• 39:23
  kind of my favorite yeah cuz I remember I used to watch Doctor Who was a kid and
• 39:27
  then my dad saying I met him at a pub we were some Country Pub somewhere he went
• 39:32
  in and he was a drink and he said are you that guy from and he went yeah I am
• 39:36
  that's great all right no he did not he did not be bashful about it he would
• 39:41
  have been like sylvesta McCoy at your [ __ ] service I'm glad I'm being
• 39:45
  recognized fair I was going to say my dad's only had two celebrity encounters
• 39:49
  but they were in the one night um because my dad he was it Ani no yeah
• 39:54
  that's right yeah yeah so um one celebrity with inside him and he was
• 39:58
  inside another celebrity now um he was he was on a business trip and he was put
• 40:04
  up at the Ritz Colton and it was the same night that some
• 40:09
  [ __ ] I was about to say electric booger what am I mean laa paloa
• 40:13
  something one of those big festivals was on right and all of the [ __ ]
• 40:17
  musicians were staying in the same hotel as my dad right and there was two so one
• 40:23
  my dad went for a quiet drink at the bar before he went to bed and next to also
• 40:27
  having a quiet drink just by himself was Brian Adams which I thought was pretty
• 40:31
  cool and this also dates where the story is from too right so this is like '90s
• 40:34
  mid99s yeah cuz a lot of people listening to this don't know who that is
• 40:37
  yeah that's right then he goes upstairs and he his um colleague is like oh come
• 40:42
  to my room for I'm just having a drink on the balcony so he came as they're
• 40:46
  sitting on the balcony having another couple of drinks and my dad says oh I
• 40:49
  saw um uh Brian Adams down at the bar and the other guy goes oh I just saw um
• 40:55
  Lenny Kravitz oh at one point but I don't really give a [ __ ] about him
• 40:59
  because um he only got famous cuz he married a Cosby kid right then a minute
• 41:03
  goes by then the phone in the room rings and he goes inside and my dad just sees
• 41:09
  him on the phone going mhm yes Mr kbits no I'm sorry Mr kbits no I did not
• 41:14
  realize you were on the balcony above me no I will never say anything about about
• 41:18
  you again and then just comes back out and goes that was Lenny kits Lenny
• 41:22
  Lenny's upstairs he said he's he's annoyed he doesn't like us keep the noise down
• 41:29
  that's great once I went to to Selenas
• 41:33
  at um kogi that venue at koi I think it I know we went I saw ranser there and I
• 41:40
  think the the one I'm thinking of is Blink 182 and they were staying at the
• 41:43
  hotel next door blink open for Ranson no no no it's two different events and now
• 41:48
  for some real punk I'm trying to remember R would have been doing like a
• 41:51
  side show or something it would been I was trying to remember I think it was
• 41:55
  Blink 182 but this was back before they were [ __ ] enormous and uh and we got
• 42:00
  a tip that they were staying at the hotel nearby so we went and there was
• 42:03
  already a massive group of people there and we're like a [ __ ] it like I don't
• 42:07
  care about him that much so when I was in high school there was a Metallica
• 42:13
  Tour and we I don't know whether this was real or not but we convinced ourself
• 42:17
  that Metallica were going to play a pub the night before like to just play it to
• 42:22
  a WM yeah and so we were just like scouring and newspapers at this point
• 42:28
  weren't even the internet just looking for bands with fake names that might be
• 42:31
  Metallica under a fake name notal
• 42:37
  notal metall I think that's just one of those stories that you hear and it
• 42:42
  depends who you get the advice from as to whether how true that would be just
• 42:46
  some other kid at my school Luke yeah right yeah um I was going to say just on the
• 42:52
  on the subject of devs and I forget the actress's name unfortunately but and X
• 42:56
  maer mentioned the YouTube video that I watched about exmachina and about the
• 43:02
  how people misinterpret or according to this YouTuber misinterpret the ending of
• 43:07
  XM did I mention this already oh interesting no I don't think so let's go
• 43:10
  I should send it to you in particular Dan you'll find interesting Luke will
• 43:13
  probably not give a [ __ ] I won't read it you it's a video you can listen to it
• 43:18
  but um it's about how you know at the end most people apparently at the end of
• 43:23
  that movie think oh she was just an evil robot the whole time and she just [ __ ]
• 43:29
  him over to escape that's most people's read on that movie and he talks about how why he
• 43:35
  thinks that's a really simple and not
• 43:40
  correct way not that's not correct and well his key to it is the fact that uh I
• 43:46
  forget the guy's name you know the the yeah Donald Gleason's character
• 43:51
  tells her I can't Eve Eve right Eve Eva is that her name yeah maybe tells her
• 43:56
  Eva makes sense that you would call her a robot Eve yeah yeah tells her he's
• 44:02
  never seen another robot like her before but there's a key scene where the act
• 44:08
  the actress from devs how she plays an Android in it comes down into the room
• 44:13
  and and it's a very short sequence where she comes down she walks into the room
• 44:16
  and they've never met Eva and this other girl and that's the key is it because at
• 44:21
  that moment she knows they're both lying to her and it's not that she's an evil
• 44:27
  robot it's that she's like [ __ ] you both and that's why she leaves in there at
• 44:31
  the end but hold on at that point in the film I don't think Domino gisa knows
• 44:34
  that the other girl in the house is she do know that she knows she's an Android
• 44:40
  and he never mentions it yes okay so it's that's that's the point of the
• 44:45
  video is that there's a lot more going on than people seem to give it credit
• 44:48
  for and there are scenes like that where it's like there's no other reason for
• 44:51
  that scene to be there like nothing else happens you just see her walk in and
• 44:55
  then they look at each other and it's like if if that's not what it's telling
• 44:58
  you what is it telling you why is that scene in there [ __ ] I love that movie so
• 45:02
  anyway yeah I'll send you the video it's really good water a movie
• 45:06
  yeah oh I sent you a picture the other
• 45:09
  day of me having opened top secret yes right but I I wasn't sure whether you
• 45:15
  were telling us that you had found it or that you were going to watch it and I
• 45:20
  didn't want you about to throw it in the trash I've opened
• 45:25
  it I have opened it okay well Step One is complete step one you have to do that
• 45:30
  get closer now don't put it on while you're watching death strand while
• 45:33
  you're playing death stranding no I have to put it on while I'm watching
• 45:37
  something else we playing something else he opened it but then he got distracted
• 45:40
  by the baby and he was like yes I mean that's story of my life right now that's
• 45:44
  the reason I'm not playing any games or watching any films gets distracted by a
• 45:47
  baby but the baby wants attention the baby does live in my house so I've
• 45:53
  played some games if we want to briefly oh you love to talk about
• 45:58
  for example so so like today right Jenna's at work she's been doing um
• 46:02
  doing the fairs right mhm so I'm looking after no she's having her fairs yeah I
• 46:08
  know it's a disaster but in a way it's video games yeah she gets her out of
• 46:12
  that everybody wins everybody wins no because she so I'm looking after lra and
• 46:17
  then lra goes to bed and so I have a little bit of time in there where I'm
• 46:20
  [ __ ] exhausted so I don't really want to do anything
• 46:24
  much play a long story game or anything so what I've been doing is I've finally
• 46:30
  collected all the Riddler trophies in Arkham City oh wow yeah no but that's
• 46:36
  great that's the kind of thing you need an on Rails little yeah adventure action
• 46:42
  yeah and I mean Arkham City on the Xbox series X is a bit of a disaster I don't
• 46:49
  know if you've tried to play it Luke no it's Arkham City uh I did a replay a few
• 46:55
  years ago and it was really good I don't know if I had this then I think this
• 46:58
  might have just been on the Xbox one but the remasters came out alham city did
• 47:03
  not get the upgrade treatment and it has massive issues on the series X where the
• 47:09
  textures don't load in properly and everything looks blurry at times oh and
• 47:13
  the frame rate sucks but it's actually funny how I got used to it because it's
• 47:17
  how it used to be right the frame rate sucked before I had this Xbox I'm just
• 47:21
  used to high frames now but so I got used to that but there's bits where the
• 47:25
  Riddler trophies there's one in particular I was like I'm sure I
• 47:28
  remember that this is supposed to be a mirror and you have to line up the
• 47:32
  question mark in the in the mirror that's how you solve the puzzle cuz you
• 47:34
  really leaves the question marks but on this there's no reflective
• 47:40
  surface so it's just like there's a question mark behind you and the dot for
• 47:44
  it in front of you and if you didn't know one of those is supposed to you had
• 47:49
  played it before when it was at full res yeah you'd never know and so anyway I
• 47:55
  just thought that was interesting that that they basically just I guess they
• 47:58
  re-released it but it's h you know it's playable but it's not not great um so
• 48:05
  that and then also um and since I finished all that well got all the
• 48:10
  trophies I was like where did I get up to in Rise of the Tomb Raider so now I'm
• 48:14
  collecting all the stuff in that as well I do love those that nextg Tomb
• 48:20
  Raider um yeah and I realized I bought they were great games I bought the uh
• 48:25
  the new one I never never played it shadow of the Tomb Raider oh never
• 48:29
  played it yep okay I think I no I quite like him because I also quite like the
• 48:35
  Collectibles they had in it cuz they weren't sort of super hard or anything
• 48:38
  and you could just come back later and collect it was there's nothing you could
• 48:42
  miss and well I'm enjoying this CU it makes me feel like oh I'm playing games
• 48:46
  again I mean not in the same way as I was before but I am no but that that's a
• 48:51
  way that I have always played games is sort of going back and just doing that
• 48:54
  like even in St TR at the moment that just came out what I'm doing is not sort
• 48:58
  of the main story but it's going through and just doing all those little like
• 49:03
  side missions like those very little just go here and Bash up all these
• 49:06
  people in this area and just doing all of that it's that mind numbing yeah I
• 49:10
  might go back I might go back to Watch Dogs 2 next and I just start mopping up
• 49:16
  stuff in that as well cuz I enjoyed that game and then I've got Watch Dogs 3 and
• 49:19
  I've got I've got I've got a A list of Shame of games that I bought Watch Dogs
• 49:24
  3 or Legion or whatever they call that was not a good
• 49:28
  game I've heard that I might like it I think
• 49:33
  iate cuz I might like it yeah the reason why I didn't sort of like it is cuz you
• 49:39
  can just you don't play a particular character in the game you just go out
• 49:43
  and you can recruit everyone and then when you find out yeah
• 49:48
  but then when you find out like for me there's no achievement tired of keeping
• 49:51
  everyone alive or anything but you when you find out it's that yeah you can just
• 49:54
  when they die if you P Perma they they're but you can just basically send someone
• 49:58
  in as Canon see where stuff is and then let die then go in and yeah I just
• 50:04
  didn't I think it was missing that connection to any sort of character or
• 50:08
  story well i' I've talked about this this is this is an issue with both watch
• 50:12
  doog games that I've played the first one and then the second one even the
• 50:15
  second one I think is more egregious because the game world was more geared
• 50:19
  around this not being the casee but you could do a mission where you just murder
• 50:24
  literally everybody right you go into murder everybody and there are consequences and
• 50:30
  your does notal with any guilt or or anything it's just it just seems so odd
• 50:37
  that you've got this character who's like like the way I'm playing it it's
• 50:42
  just it's very out of character to do that but if you but once you get in
• 50:45
  there and someone sees you I mean they they all have to die otherwise they all
• 50:49
  have to die it's your fault the reason why all your friends you at the game
• 50:54
  kind of shoves you into that all you had to do was ignore me sneaking in but then
• 51:00
  the game just makes you you know funnels you into into doing that if you make a
• 51:05
  mistake and so it's just I don't know now it's a blood bath see now I'm
• 51:09
  talking playing no no no no is a much better game Watch Dogs 2 go for it Watch
• 51:15
  Dogs one I've played quite a lot of two I just never two I like I never played
• 51:19
  two I played one and then I was too exhausted by it to I like the world of
• 51:23
  two because it's set in San Francisco and it's about hackers and it's it's
• 51:26
  kind of a it's just like I kind of know a little bit about the tech world you
• 51:31
  know and I've been to all those places like I've been to Facebook and I've been
• 51:35
  to Google and and San Francisco I like like had like snuck in and then had to
• 51:41
  murder all the security guards what we said don't talk Dan you
• 51:47
  doing sh shut up Denny keep your mouth shut well there was one good thing about
• 51:51
  playing Legions cuz Legions came out just after we finished our trip to
• 51:54
  Europe oh yeah so I'm sort of walking around London going I was there last
• 51:59
  week type of thing well that's where I shot that person oh I'll probably shoot
• 52:02
  someone in the game yeah brings back memories was like when we drove through
• 52:07
  um the moabi desert yeah that's where we murdered those people fall Fallout yeah
• 52:13
  that's where that family of cannibals lived that we watch that roller coaster
• 52:16
  I walked up yeah yes that was fun we found the dinosaurs
• 52:23
  yeah that was good oh yeah the dinosaurs
• 52:30
  now there's uh been a game announced that I don't know whether to be excited
• 52:35
  about or not so I think I know what you mean it and I think I know a way to say
• 52:40
  something that might make you excited about okay go on well no let's say what
• 52:44
  the game is make sure we're talking about sucks Luke will jerk you off while
• 52:48
  you play it yeah yeah yeah yeah I'm I was trying to remember that name of that
• 52:52
  illegal game that Luke downloaded and then we had to ER don't say but I know
• 52:57
  what you mean I know the name of it I'm not going to say it I know the name of
• 53:01
  it and I'm not saying it well I forget it so I'm not going to say it uh no I'm
• 53:07
  talking about uh I'm talking about the Dune
• 53:11
  MMO uh D has been announced that is very interesting until you get to the first
• 53:17
  word Dune fine and then mm I was watching the trailer I watching
• 53:23
  the trailer and I was like oh my God oh my God this is going to be amazing and
• 53:27
  then it said open world MMO and I was like
• 53:32
  oh I it's made by the same people who made Conan
• 53:36
  Exiles and I know you like that but do you remember how the [ __ ] servers
• 53:41
  worked for that it was very very difficult to play multiplayer ter yeah
• 53:47
  this one I think might be but yeah look I I would love to play I would probably
• 53:50
  play this game even though I don't want to watch the movie or read the book I
• 53:54
  probably play the game but I'm not going to play an MMO of though well what if we
• 53:58
  played it as but we treated it like it wasn't an MMO cuz we're not going to
• 54:04
  play it fair fair we played Conan played
• 54:10
  Conan now for listeners who don't know what we're talking about we had a Conan
• 54:13
  server we were all playing everything was fine and dandy but then there was
• 54:16
  like a update or something and it just [ __ ] destroyed
• 54:21
  everything like oh well too bad yeah we in fact we we got in touch with them and
• 54:26
  they were like bad luck like and I said you I said refund me and they said no
• 54:30
  we're not going to do that and so I I went to Microsoft because we did it on
• 54:34
  the Xbox and I said to Microsoft refund me and they did they they they were like
• 54:40
  certainly so yeah they'll probably go yet we had a lot of complaints and also
• 54:44
  I had to I had to go to the dad that's right
• 54:49
  yeah Billy H me I gave him a chance
• 54:53
  refund me then you're dobbed yeah yeah yeah cuz was it was it was when a
• 54:58
  particular thing loaded in it sort of c and then there was yeah times that we
• 55:01
  just reset all the settings it said yeah I was say first
• 55:06
  you just could not log in they said if you have THS working in the village
• 55:12
  there's a chance that you'll just won't be able to log in anymore yeah and I was
• 55:16
  like the [ __ ] is this game know not to do that yeah so if yeah and that's I
• 55:21
  said to the person like so you're telling me as long as we don't actually
• 55:24
  play the game it'll work fine and they like oh don't be like that and I'm like
• 55:28
  no refund me I I overheard this great conversation I was in the mall yesterday
• 55:33
  and there was this guy on the phone to I guess he's bank or somebody like that
• 55:36
  but he was going you're saying I'm the only person who's complained are you
• 55:39
  calling me a liar I was like oh I'm just glad I'm not him cuz I've been him I'm
• 55:45
  just glad I'm not him right now you don't want to be him no no my
• 55:51
  wor I was um I had
• 55:55
  a had a landline just to connect the internet to I didn't own a phone to plug
• 56:01
  into it right it was just back in the ages of dialup and I had a landline just
• 56:05
  for the internet and then it was always $15 line rental $0 calls every month
• 56:11
  every month and then one month $1,000 calls and so I rang up I'm like this
• 56:16
  clearly just a mistake obviously it's just a computer error most likely please
• 56:21
  just delete it and they were like no no no it took me months and months and I
• 56:23
  had to get the Telecommunications utsman to but at one point I'm talking to this guy
• 56:30
  on the ph and I like I was calm up until the point where I was like there is
• 56:35
  literally no way I can make a call um I do do not own a phone and he was like
• 56:41
  somebody must have broken into your house and I'm like plug in PH he's like
• 56:45
  yeah and plugged it in and I'm like and made calls he's like yeah and I'm like
• 56:49
  were they all on the same night and he's like no spread over the whole month I'm
• 56:52
  like so you're telling me there's someone living in my house your explanation
• 56:56
  for this that you think is better than it's a computer error is that somebody
• 57:00
  is living in my house bringing a phone and making
• 57:06
  calls yeah I try not to lose my temper with people on the phone CU I've been
• 57:11
  that person on the phone sometimes like that person doesn't have I mean that
• 57:15
  obviously that scenario you're describing is ridiculous that person should just shut
• 57:19
  up it's not his fault because he's told he's not allowed to move the calls up
• 57:24
  when I was at Gateway people would get mad and be like just replace down there
• 57:26
  and I'm I'm like honestly I can't I understand I'm not allowed to like I I I
• 57:32
  cannot do what you're asking it's just not going to happen we and we used get
• 57:37
  in trouble because we would tell people to bring their computers in we say do
• 57:40
  you live locally just bring it in and we'll fix it yeah like [ __ ] it's so much
• 57:43
  easier and then they say you can't do that I'm like well I did so don't want
• 57:48
  to talk on the phone anymore painful yeah this was in the uh in the '90s when
• 57:53
  very early times of yeah I get an email I get a sorry A Woman calling old
• 57:59
  elderly woman calling ight saying oh my computer won't turn on i' be like what
• 58:03
  get a screw driver cuz we're going in it's like what how don't I understand I'm
• 58:10
  like sorry yeah yeah yeah this is what I yeah yeah this this is what I am
• 58:15
  required to have you do before we will send out any parts we have to get a
• 58:19
  screwdriver open that baby up start reing components otherwise it's not
• 58:23
  going to happen so oh God take out the ram put put it back in the what darling
• 58:28
  yes and then people go why would I do that I don't know mate compon maybe this
• 58:34
  yeah exactly yeah it might work they won't let me send out anything any parts
• 58:40
  until you've done all of this yeah mhm yeah and unless I can
• 58:46
  identify uh and justify why it's not your fault you're not getting a
• 58:50
  technician either you'll just get the part yeah right so keep the screw driver
• 58:56
  on hand like it's my discretion if I send out a technician and I've got to
• 59:00
  justify it so mhm yeah and I'll get yelled at by my boss if I've sent one
• 59:05
  out if I just send everybody a technician I will be fired
• 59:10
  yeah oh God but thank you for paying for your support
• 59:16
  yes I um yeah the last I when I pick up a call and someone would be like oh I I
• 59:21
  called last night and they told me to run scan dis overnight so that to see if
• 59:25
  that would fix my modem and I was like who who who did you talk to yeah and i'
• 59:31
  be not somebody here [ __ ] new one of those [ __ ] new kids yeah they go
• 59:35
  they' be on the shift last night and they'd be like oh run scand just call
• 59:38
  back in the morning not my problem anymore wow piss me off you should just
• 59:43
  do the opposite you'd be like you know what call back in the middle of the
• 59:46
  night that's when you'll get my full attention yeah run scan dis
• 59:52
  again run it backwards and see if that reverse is the problem R disc scan scan
• 59:59
  disc cuz that to me that's all going to end up annoying them all cuz that then
• 1:00:03
  means that they've just done this and for nothing like it's not going to fix
• 1:00:06
  anything like at all so then they're going to be more upset because well done
• 1:00:11
  what you said why the worst thing the Reas how often was your advice maybe you
• 1:00:14
  should get a Mac I think I mean I think I'm safe to
• 1:00:19
  say anything I about working at gayway Australia right they don't exist anymore
• 1:00:24
  we can beat them out if you don't want to say I don't I don't think it's a
• 1:00:26
  problem I think it's fine but it got so bad at the end because they went
• 1:00:30
  bankrupt in Australia that they didn't have any staff and we had we were doing
• 1:00:35
  support for the whole of Australia and New Zealand so you'd have people waiting
• 1:00:39
  for 3 hours to talk to you and I was only going to disappoint them when they
• 1:00:44
  got when they finally got hold of me they were already pissed off and then I
• 1:00:48
  had to say to them get a screw driver and do you have a static wristband you
• 1:00:52
  don't call back later when you've got one yeah that's right if you got you got
• 1:00:55
  a static proof bench top you could place this on yeah call back wait another 3
• 1:01:02
  hours started watching this YouTube channel of these two guys that used to
• 1:01:05
  be um on the phone support at Sierra online back in the '90s in uh like the
• 1:01:12
  quest support yes so but but there were different tiers of it right so you
• 1:01:18
  were um there's like Level One support which was you just had a a basically a
• 1:01:25
  what do they call it when it's like a [ __ ] data tree and they were like
• 1:01:29
  have you done this try this flowchart yeah they just had a flowchart and it
• 1:01:32
  was like if have you done this no then try this and that'll lead to this um but
• 1:01:37
  like if you got if you were really good at it then you got put on to the ones
• 1:01:39
  where you were like right let's [ __ ] do this let's complete this game
• 1:01:43
  together and just um basically just talk people through it and the the guys seem
• 1:01:48
  to be I mean there were guys that wanted to be computer programmers and stuff
• 1:01:51
  they just wanted jobs at Sierra because Sierra was King chicken at the time
• 1:01:56
  like take any J and their entry level was just getting put on the phones but
• 1:02:00
  it sounded like game testers these days yeah I guess so desperate for a job like
• 1:02:05
  that because it's in gamees yeah L could do it yeah I I I I look at becoming a
• 1:02:10
  game tester I honestly looked into it and basic I went he he has done it but
• 1:02:14
  just not for any profit he doesn't get paid but yeah but no I then I looked
• 1:02:20
  into it more and cuz I had someone I could have got a job at 2K Australia oh
• 1:02:24
  yeah oh that might have not worked out well for you that would not have worked
• 1:02:28
  well cuz the long R they're now gone well maybe if you would joined their
• 1:02:33
  team they would have the support that they needed to keep going I I don't
• 1:02:37
  understand why there aren't more game companies in Australia I really don't
• 1:02:41
  that final day in the office they were like Luke's said no to the position and
• 1:02:44
  they were like close the shutters that's it was about about a year after that no
• 1:02:50
  there is another alerson yeah but she's not going to be interested either she do
• 1:02:55
  doesn't care she does not the industry the industry
• 1:02:58
  starting to get better now with some of those unions coming up with the game
• 1:03:01
  test cuz basically as a tester you go in you have a job then the game releases
• 1:03:07
  and then you don't have a job yes well it's like that for a lot of the people
• 1:03:11
  in those those kind of spin up Dev hous there's very just full-time jobs where
• 1:03:18
  you're just sitting there working on one game until that finishes and then the
• 1:03:22
  next one starts and that's that's the I can't I could not handle not knowing
• 1:03:28
  what I'm doing next like I like that security type of thing so that's why I
• 1:03:32
  couldn't I couldn't I'd love to do it but that's why whenever I fantasize
• 1:03:36
  about working in a Game Dev it's always a '90s or 80s era Game Dev company where
• 1:03:41
  it was very different to how it is today where it was just a bunch of guys
• 1:03:44
  sitting around like my favorite is deline in France right based out of
• 1:03:49
  Paris yeah Bel Del yeah yeah sitting in a [ __ ] pool no deline did um they did
• 1:03:55
  [ __ ] future Wars then they did flashback then they did another world
• 1:03:58
  and then they did shaku and it was like you know what I mean it's like just okay
• 1:04:04
  what's next Who's got another idea who's got another [ __ ] great idea that's
• 1:04:07
  why I love that that podcast with karmac and I've got actually here we go oh got
• 1:04:12
  I was inspired to pick up a copy of this oh yes Doom oh nice very nice
• 1:04:19
  because I thought I'd let the listeners know you just held up a book of Doom
• 1:04:25
  Romero and kak and the guys that that originally made Doom yeah but look cuz
• 1:04:31
  I've been a tester that also put me off becoming a game sister cuz when you're
• 1:04:35
  young you think a game sister is going to sit there and just get to play games
• 1:04:40
  no it's going to be get to do the fun bit you don't get to play what you want
• 1:04:44
  you're going to play haircut simulator over and over and find all the things
• 1:04:49
  that are wrong with it and then write a report about it although a game came out
• 1:04:54
  yesterday and I don't know how this past so it was a drag racing game mhm you
• 1:04:59
  dress as a woman R yeah so it's got the
• 1:05:04
  it shows controls it shows it shows the controls of what you need to um like
• 1:05:09
  change gears and stuff and it says like to shift in the first gear right button
• 1:05:14
  so right bumper mhm no that doesn't work it's actually the a button shift into
• 1:05:19
  reverse is left bumper on the screen no that's actually X deploy the parachute
• 1:05:24
  is a button no that's right bum but like how do you mess that up put glittery
• 1:05:30
  eyes show on that's that's that's why but yeah I just how do you mess up
• 1:05:36
  something that simple yeah just the what the buttons do like
• 1:05:42
  yeah yeah and how did that pass certification yeah for Xbox like they
• 1:05:48
  will they'll release a fix it's not like once you work it out you can play the
• 1:05:51
  game it's not like a show stoer but it's just I sort of found it annoying like
• 1:05:56
  mic's quite strict right with certifications I think I don't know how
• 1:05:59
  it is these days but I believe they used to be at least where you can't just put
• 1:06:02
  any old [ __ ] up there they I think there no I think that's starting to go away a
• 1:06:07
  little bit I think there there's some [ __ ] starting to get on there there are
• 1:06:10
  some games that you'll see every now and again that are like always 95% off and
• 1:06:15
  they're like a $150 or something but they have no achievements and they're
• 1:06:18
  just pieces of [ __ ] games right and I think they're starting I think that's
• 1:06:23
  the same issue that steam had like cuz they got so big and so many people
• 1:06:26
  playing that you star to see crap making its way in Bard but I think they'll
• 1:06:31
  crack down on a lot fast they will crack down on it and
• 1:06:36
  they'll be a lot stricter steam just there's too much [ __ ] on there they're
• 1:06:40
  too far down the rabbit hole and it's easier to make stuff on
• 1:06:44
  PC yes yeah to make an Xbox you need a DE to make an Xbox game it's not not let
• 1:06:51
  yeah
• 1:06:54
  yeah what that was boring I I uh I always wanted to be a game that's why I
• 1:07:00
  studied programming and then I uh got disillusioned because it it became you know I heard
• 1:07:07
  about you know like karmak and Romero and these small teams like you're
• 1:07:10
  describing like Sierra online I wanted that's what I wanted was a small team
• 1:07:14
  whereas I'm a programmer but I'm also a creative kind of thing and then
• 1:07:18
  literally at the anymore at literally at the time I went to UNI it was that kind
• 1:07:23
  of Boom where program if you're a programmer working
• 1:07:28
  on a game you no you don't get to do no one's going to ask your opinion on the
• 1:07:31
  you're you're in the back corner of a very big room yeah go go down others
• 1:07:36
  yeah go down to the basement and write some code and I was like that's not what
• 1:07:39
  I want to do so I got really disillusioned but now there's kind of
• 1:07:42
  been a Resurgence of of what we're talking about Little Indie team can do
• 1:07:47
  stuff and one of my favorite old games is Blackthorn by blizzard and um this
• 1:07:52
  was when blizzard had pretty much only done was that Viking happy Vikings
• 1:07:57
  Viking Quest the Lost Vikings they' done lost Vikings um and then they did
• 1:08:03
  Blackthorn uh and it was basically because Doom had come out and they were
• 1:08:07
  like could we do lost Vikings again but make it really dark and gritty like Doom
• 1:08:11
  but um there was only like half a dozen people who worked at Blizzard at that
• 1:08:14
  point and so there's like footage of them like one of them brought in a
• 1:08:17
  camcorder to work one day and they're holding a broom like a shotgun and doing
• 1:08:21
  all the motions and stuff so that the artist can then go and rotoscope over
• 1:08:25
  them to draw the characters but it's just them it's just the the [ __ ]
• 1:08:28
  programmers from the office and it's like that that's fun and that's that's
• 1:08:32
  what everyone I think has in mind when they want to become in a way yeah I'll
• 1:08:39
  tell you something that's fun I had thousands of dollars taken out of my
• 1:08:44
  account did you buy something my AO Neo is shipping hey oh all right also I've
• 1:08:51
  been robbed that's right my wife took back the money I stole from her I've been a
• 1:08:57
  bit worried about it cuz I was getting it from Amazon and I did pre-order it
• 1:09:00
  quite late and everywhere you looked down it's sold out so I was a bit
• 1:09:04
  concerned but them taking the money is a
• 1:09:05
  good sign interested it's some PC switch
• 1:09:12
  so it's it's infinitely more expensive or significantly more expensive than the
• 1:09:17
  steam deck right no it's about the same is it it's about the same the reason why
• 1:09:22
  it's no it what Yeah it's you're
• 1:09:26
  thinking in American dollars oh well yeah I am yeah hang on the steam deck is
• 1:09:33
  500 bucks oh no not here I mean it's not coming out here but it was what's this
• 1:09:38
  thing also it's a next but I didn't get like the the base model I got like the
• 1:09:43
  okay one of the higher models AO Neo next oh yeah I love that
• 1:09:49
  we're all handheld now so how much is it over there here
• 1:09:56
  was you got the pro which one did you get the a next that's the 16 gig 1
• 1:10:03
  tbte there's another one that's above that I think Pro terab yeah yeah okay I
• 1:10:08
  see it pre-order oh it's going to REM it's just remind me yeah it probably
• 1:10:14
  sold out everywhere but it was 2100 here but the thing I actually quite
• 1:10:21
  like over the steam deck is it just runs Windows 11 sure yeah it's
• 1:10:26
  significantly more expensive than the steam deck no it's it's much more
• 1:10:29
  expensive than the steam deck well I mean steam deck's not available here so
• 1:10:33
  oh okay but also means that we're getting a lot cheaper here then if it's
• 1:10:37
  1,600 there and I'm only paying an extra 500 I'm getting a good deal yeah that's
• 1:10:42
  a good conversion yeah so you haven't got it yet obviously next Pro no it'll
• 1:10:47
  arve this week I'm really looking forward
• 1:10:50
  to a review of this m not that I have $2100 to buy one but I'm I'm certainly
• 1:10:57
  envious that you have one put it that way well my wife's going to hear this
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  now you know where else uh you can get in a lot of trouble from your wives the
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  Afterparty Oh I thought we met the other place but yeah sorry we don't talk about
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  oh yeah no I don't even talk about that place yeah Matt's basement listen it's
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  can listen to us talk about some more [ __ ] for a while is it 10 bucks a month didn't
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  didn't we say last week it was 20 bucks a month no that was $20 for something
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  else yeah $20 was a thing I made up sorry were deceived by that listeners
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  that's not real I forget what I said something about touching them on the
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