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Episode 103 SNME 42 Predictions · Podcast Championship Wrestling

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  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the Least Requested, Leaf Demanded
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  Speaker 3: the world.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the cha?
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  Speaker 7: What's up?
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  Speaker 5: Big bad?
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  Speaker 3: You got mad?
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  Speaker 2: Sad?
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  Speaker 5: Whoa what here?
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  Speaker 7: You know? Back the one.
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  Speaker 8: Oh, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls Channel ll just
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  Speaker 8: welcome back to another episode of PCW podcast Championship Wrestling
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  Speaker 8: and I am your host, Wayne also known as Semi
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  Speaker 8: Dry Chicken, And this is episode one oh three.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna be reviewing Saturday night main event, which does
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  Speaker 1: involve John Cena's final match. We will be talking about
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  Speaker 1: who the hell is this masked men not man men?
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  Speaker 1: Has John Cena ever tapped out before? And if he has,
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  Speaker 1: who has made him tap out? We're gonna talk about
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  Speaker 1: the Rockby nominated Best Male Actor of the Year for
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  Speaker 1: what we'll talk about that too, and John Cena may
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  Speaker 1: have signed a five year contract. All that and more.
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  Speaker 1: Let me bring up my co host, so.
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  Speaker 3: It might have been.
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  Speaker 2: Just okay, okay, it's on me now I'm gonna get
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  Speaker 2: them all.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back, oose.
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  Speaker 5: Yo Yo.
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  Speaker 9: What did do pc W crew? Main't eventre usso was
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  Speaker 9: back on your podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Are you are you eating anything this episode?
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  Speaker 5: No, I already ate earlier.
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  Speaker 9: I went to the gym earlier, so I've had my
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  Speaker 9: post workout meal already.
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  Speaker 7: Man.
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  Speaker 1: Just curious me know, because every episode of you're eating
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  Speaker 1: something sometimes.
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  Speaker 5: You know, yeah, yeah, no snacks this time around though.
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  Speaker 1: All right, no love chips, nothing like that.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, all right, well tech guy do have snacks, but
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  Speaker 5: I'll save them for later.
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  Speaker 1: Nice, nice, classy. All right, let's bring out one of
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  Speaker 1: our coasts.
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  Speaker 3: In my head that accounts for me. They understand.
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  Speaker 10: Thanks off me, you got juha all designed to keep
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  Speaker 10: you sing.
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  Speaker 1: Tyler, Welcome back to the show, buddy.
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  Speaker 6: Good evening, Thank you for having me again. Much appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: Of course. Of course, there's always plenty of space here
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  Speaker 1: on PCW.
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  Speaker 6: Always. I'm going to being here every time, getting to
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  Speaker 6: talk with these guys and you know, going over everything
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  Speaker 6: in the stustling world. They can't think of anything else
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  Speaker 6: better to be doing on Wednesday night.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I could be. I could think plenty of things
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  Speaker 1: to be doing. But with that said, let's bring out
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  Speaker 1: the man himself. All right, Doyle, welcome back, buddy.
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  Speaker 7: Pretty sure that guy is suing w w E right now. Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: we should have cleared that with legal first. Anyway, it's me,
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  Speaker 7: It's me. It's a do o il e.
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  Speaker 11: And uh, I noticed myself doing something kind of weird recently.
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  Speaker 11: Uh I thick televisions in my house, and at any
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  Speaker 11: given time, one of at least one of them is
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  Speaker 11: playing Law and Order or Special Victims Unit. And as you've
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  Speaker 11: probably seen the show and you know how it starts.
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  Speaker 11: They say, in the criminals system, criminal especial based offenders
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  Speaker 11: offenses are considered especially heinous. And I've known that I
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  Speaker 11: go especially heinous, much in the same way that often
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  Speaker 11: lesblie crowds will do when the referee says one fall,
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  Speaker 11: of the crowd goes one fall.
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  Speaker 7: I'm sorry, going especially fits And my wife, I asked,
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  Speaker 7: how long have I been doing this? She goes, that's
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  Speaker 7: for a while now. But I just noticed that I've
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  Speaker 7: been doing it so.
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  Speaker 5: Love me. So you've becoming SVU Mark.
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  Speaker 11: Oh, I've as a stable an apologist for decades.
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  Speaker 1: Mm, this is free Doyle. Yeah, it takes me back.
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  Speaker 7: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Hello on order. Yeah, we got so much to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: We've only been gone for like a week, and so
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  Speaker 1: much just happening in a week, gentlemen, so much. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: let's let's bring this up first. The Rock was nominated
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  Speaker 1: Best Male Actor for The Smashing Machine. Has anybody seen
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  Speaker 1: The Smashing Machine yet?
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  Speaker 9: Not yet, but I do still want to watch it, Yeah,
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  Speaker 9: especially now that if he's getting award nominations, because I
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  Speaker 9: want to. I want to see his performance to see
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  Speaker 9: if these are justified or this is Hollywood politics, right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I wonder what streaming network is pop
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  Speaker 1: up on because I mean that's probably where I'll watch it, don't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't see myself buying it to watch it, But
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  Speaker 1: I agree Dre like I'm kind of intrigued to see
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  Speaker 1: man if he got nominated, especially with the other people
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  Speaker 1: who are up for nominations, so must be pretty damn good.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah. I was available for purchase at home, but it's
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  Speaker 7: not streaming yet.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Regardless, I probably will never watch that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, it does. It's not on anywhere.
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  Speaker 9: It's like stream as part of a subscription. But apparently
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  Speaker 9: you can rent it on any other service like you know, Fandango,
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  Speaker 9: Amazon or whatever for like looks.
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  Speaker 5: Like maybe ten bucks to rent. Yeah, so I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: If he gets an Oscar nom then I'll consider renting it.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, that's what's going to say it's expected to be streaming.
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  Speaker 11: It says it's expected to be streaming on HBO Max
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  Speaker 11: or whatever the.
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  Speaker 7: Hell it's called.
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  Speaker 11: Uh, by then in February or March, so a couple
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  Speaker 11: couple of months.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, well i'd be right around Oscar season.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, HBO Max, Quicks.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah or whatever the hell's going to be.
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  Speaker 12: Well, he would have to see if he's even nominated
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  Speaker 12: for the Oscar.
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  Speaker 11: That's quite different than the Golden Globe exactly exactly.
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  Speaker 13: If he does.
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  Speaker 11: I have a friend that has an Oscar vote, I'll
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  Speaker 11: have to ask him if he's going to vote for
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  Speaker 11: the Rock.
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  Speaker 7: If, if, and when that day comes.
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  Speaker 1: We have here, guys in March coming up the Peacock
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  Speaker 1: deal with ww NS, so that full library content it
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  Speaker 1: has to go somewhere any of the days where you guys
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  Speaker 1: would like to see it go. I mean they said
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  Speaker 1: they're looking at doing a.
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  Speaker 9: I've heard they're migrant they're gonna migrate that stuff over
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  Speaker 9: to the YouTube.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what obviously various channels that they have their YouTube,
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  Speaker 1: And it's funny, it's a lot.
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  Speaker 11: There's a lot of stuff already on there that involved is.
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  Speaker 9: Fucking often, right, and that's been real successful for them
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  Speaker 9: and brought into this you know.
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 9: I see it pop up every now and then where
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  Speaker 9: they show old w c W pay per views and stuff.
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  Speaker 9: So yeah, that stuff's actually been working out pretty well
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  Speaker 9: for them, which I think is why they're probably going
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  Speaker 9: to maybe add a few more Vault channels for like
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  Speaker 9: raw and SmackDown episodes or something like that.
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  Speaker 5: That's probably more than likely what.
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  Speaker 9: It's gonna they're gonna do, because create a channel doesn't
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  Speaker 9: cost them anything.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, we hell we have one. Uh yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: mean I'm looking on it.
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  Speaker 11: The library is in a mess since the WWE network
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  Speaker 11: ceased to be a thing in the United States anyway,
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  Speaker 11: I think it.
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  Speaker 7: I think they still had.
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  Speaker 11: It internationally until whatever fucking mischigo happened this year.
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  Speaker 7: Now, I don't know who guys, what I missed?
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  Speaker 1: I missed a w W very very.
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  Speaker 14: It was only nine a month did that?
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  Speaker 1: They drove that thing hard like it was the five
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  Speaker 1: dollars foot long you know, fucking songs like nine ninety nine.
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  Speaker 1: There wasn't nine ninety nine song wasn't there? Oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: I got look for.
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  Speaker 11: An They had a giant They had a nine ninety
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  Speaker 11: nine flag on top of the old WWE headquarters in Stanford.
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  Speaker 7: It was a giant Let me up there.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there is.
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  Speaker 15: Everything you want to see. You don't can a line
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  Speaker 15: man freeing all night every classics?
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  Speaker 4: Do want to five?
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  Speaker 3: What's you gonna pay?
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  Speaker 1: Wow? Yeah, so they go nine nine nine, let's bring
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  Speaker 1: it back, dude. Everything was on that app.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We were paying those sixty dollars pl E pay per
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  Speaker 1: view bills back in the day and now it's thirty
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  Speaker 1: dollars for ESPN Plus. And you know, we discussed to
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  Speaker 1: nausea what you have to get Netflix and to watch
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  Speaker 1: you know, SmackDown. You're gonna you gotta have some sort
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  Speaker 1: of cable bill.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, these other companies are paying them too much money.
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  Speaker 9: That's just not coming back.
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  Speaker 7: Well, you see all the stuff about ESPN.
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  Speaker 5: It's like very with the deo.
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  Speaker 14: Apparently ESPN is like like they're like hemorrhaging money on
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  Speaker 14: this steal, which huge surprised.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, if you think about it as we're
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  Speaker 9: about to talk about Saturday Night made event, so far
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  Speaker 9: since Peli's have moved over to ww I mean, from
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  Speaker 9: from Peacock to ESPN, from then to now, on paper,
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  Speaker 9: the best show that's taking place is probably this one
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  Speaker 9: that's coming up this Saturday, still on Peacock.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, just looking at the lineup of the card.
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  Speaker 9: Like this one looks better than what we got with
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  Speaker 9: War Games Russell Paloozo, which was cheeks and I think
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  Speaker 9: those are the only two they've had so far.
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  Speaker 5: Now, of course, let me.
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  Speaker 7: Say this about every Saturday Night the night's rate event though.
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  Speaker 5: Where I was like, this one is going good, hence
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  Speaker 5: my use of the words on paper.
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  Speaker 9: H right, But of course we're also got WrestleMania season
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  Speaker 9: coming up at the top of the year, so yeah,
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  Speaker 9: they may be disappointed now out of the gate because
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  Speaker 9: they picked a bad time to make the switch. You
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  Speaker 9: switched over during a lull in WWE's pl lineup. Maybe
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  Speaker 9: if You'll have stayed with the Cock through the end
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  Speaker 9: of the year and then said, hey, begett of the year,
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  Speaker 9: we're hopping off the COCK and we're hopping over on ESPN,
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  Speaker 9: and they could have hit the ground running.
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  Speaker 5: It probably would have looked a whole lot better for him.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 11: I mean that that Russell Palsa was just awful, and
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  Speaker 11: it was so rushed, you know, like none of those
• 14:36
  Speaker 11: you know, they weren't expecting to have They weren't playing
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  Speaker 11: building towards that show.
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  Speaker 7: It was just like, oh fuck, we're having a pay
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  Speaker 7: per view in two weeks, like.
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  Speaker 5: Shut together.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: So I mean absolutely, yeah, I think that is that
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  Speaker 9: more than anything, they'll they'll be smiling once they see
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  Speaker 9: that WrestleMania money come in or when they and probably
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  Speaker 9: and they see this, uh, probably an influx of viewers
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  Speaker 9: whenever YouTube TV gets their shit together since they finally
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  Speaker 9: have their deal worked out with Disney and suppose and
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  Speaker 9: we're us YouTube TV subscribers are going to get the
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  Speaker 9: ESPN as part of our subscription. So once they at
• 15:21
  Speaker 9: some point during twenty twenty six, so once they see
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  Speaker 9: that go, once they get that sorted out, they'll see
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  Speaker 9: an influx of viewers and some of us will drop
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  Speaker 9: the VPN and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 5: So it's still.
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  Speaker 9: We're only a couple of months into a multi year deal.
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  Speaker 9: So I think it's way too early.
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  Speaker 14: For them to be so the cable subscription suck with
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  Speaker 14: a cable subsition that sponsored the fucking show but doesn't
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  Speaker 14: tell it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, how crazy is that?
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: That is kind of fucked up. I didn't even think about.
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  Speaker 7: That, man.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean I expect, I effect eventually that they
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  Speaker 11: will work out some kind of fucking deal.
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  Speaker 7: But it's like, what the hell, Like, why didn't you
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  Speaker 7: think about? And the part of the cell was like
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  Speaker 7: how easy the integration.
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: Was gonna be.
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  Speaker 11: Oh, if you have cable, you're automatically you're going to
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  Speaker 11: get ESB and whatever the fuck it selects plus minus
• 16:19
  Speaker 11: whatever it's called.
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  Speaker 7: And that's turned out, and I'll be.
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  Speaker 1: True, Nope, you need a whole new deal, whole new contract. Yeah, Tyler,
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  Speaker 1: did you have the w W app when it came out?
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  Speaker 6: Unfortunately secluded in that participate in the app. So I
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: I just want a lot of good w W network app,
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  Speaker 6: the last w W magazine.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think the ww magazine is still around, not
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  Speaker 1: that I know of, and if they are, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they got to be so out dated, Like.
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  Speaker 9: I'd be surprised if that things still exist. Most print
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  Speaker 9: magazines are have gone the way of the dinosaurs. Yeah,
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  Speaker 9: transitioning online.
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  Speaker 11: I'm pretty sure fucking Melzer doesn't even actually publish a
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  Speaker 11: physical magazine anymore.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, outside of maybe the five hundred or whatever.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, appairly anymore.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm pretty sure that thing that that Wrestling Observer
• 17:33
  Speaker 9: newsletter quote unquote is probably an email or Patreon thing now.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, things it gets caught in the spam filter or
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: of your of your email.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like for here what I'm seeing. Last
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  Speaker 1: time we had any kind of WW magazine may have
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: been two thousand and four. Team the Shield was on
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  Speaker 1: the cover, Who will be the next Champion?
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  Speaker 7: It's that recent.
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  Speaker 11: I thought you're going to say like two or something.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, like, no makes sense to me.
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  Speaker 9: Twenty fourteen is right around the time I would say
• 18:25
  Speaker 9: when social media itself really started to blow up. That
• 18:29
  Speaker 9: was the Internet been around long before then, but social
• 18:31
  Speaker 9: media itself really took off into twenty ten. So that's
• 18:35
  Speaker 9: what would really be the death nail for print media.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I found a website today that
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: you can look at. It's an archive, an archive, an
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: archive of all the WW magazines. You can look at
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: every page. Oh, I'm gonna post that in in our discord.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: That's actually kind of cool. Let's sit here, minisce about
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: all the uh the old wrestling magazines that I had,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: and all the posters that I took out of them
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: right away? Oh yeah, old old WW mags. We bring
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: this up a lot, Actually.
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  Speaker 5: We don't.
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  Speaker 1: We don't talk enough about the old WW magazines. How
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: much money we wasted fourteen dollars apiece or something. However
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: fucking much they were. They were a ridiculous amount.
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: I think that's about what they were. It was like fourteen, fourteen,
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  Speaker 6: twenty bucks or something like that.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and I just complete how many I would buy.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: That's crazy because then they bought.
• 19:47
  Speaker 9: Yeah, you ever subscribed to was old Nintendo Power magazine
• 19:51
  Speaker 9: back when I was.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, so were you?
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: Uh not for me?
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Were you that guy who like read them in the store.
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: Before you left with the WW magazines?
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Yep, never buy him, just read them right.
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  Speaker 5: Pretty much with any magazine.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, for the most part, Nintendo Power, Downtown BB select.
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  Speaker 7: Okay remember that.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I had then attended Power subscription for
• 20:14
  Speaker 9: a couple of years, so that those I held on to,
• 20:17
  Speaker 9: you know when I got him. But other than that,
• 20:20
  Speaker 9: anything else yep, right there in the store flipped.
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  Speaker 13: Okay, well, Nintendo Power anyway was a lot closer to Evergreen,
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  Speaker 13: uh than that w w S magazine what I mean
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  Speaker 13: ship By the time he got that thing, it would.
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  Speaker 11: Be like mister perfect just won the title the inter
• 20:37
  Speaker 11: title in SummerSlam or whatever. I'd be like, it's Survivor
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  Speaker 11: Theories and he hasn't had the title for two months.
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  Speaker 7: Like.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, ay the time it came out, that is very
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  Speaker 5: much true.
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  Speaker 7: And then sometimes they're trying to get ahead of something
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  Speaker 7: and change their mind.
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  Speaker 11: But in the magazine like since since taking a turn
• 20:59
  Speaker 11: for the dark sides side, I'm like they didn't turn heel,
• 21:02
  Speaker 11: Like what the.
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  Speaker 7: Fuck are you talking about?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, especially something like that where you your stories can
• 21:10
  Speaker 9: change on a whim. With how Evince was feeling, yeah,
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  Speaker 9: it was hard for them to keep up.
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  Speaker 2: Ye.
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  Speaker 9: Most interesting thing might be maybe a superstar interview or
• 21:18
  Speaker 9: some highlight piece, but a lot of times those were
• 21:21
  Speaker 9: still character.
• 21:24
  Speaker 7: It's like, oh, what's Travis mcfrud's favorite movie.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Hm hmmm, uh well, I guess you know what we'll
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: get into the U the mass men. I'm believing that
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: there's more than one man at this point.
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  Speaker 7: I mean physically under the hood. That's what the dirts
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  Speaker 7: are saying.
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  Speaker 6: Now.
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  Speaker 1: It's like I have theories and what I've been hearing,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: like we we discussed this last time. We think it
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: might be Austin theory. I did bring this up. And
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: I've heard a lot of chatter about Jericho. Now we
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: all know, we all talked about it. That clearly was
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: not Jericho who jumped the cage or even was on
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: this week. But the rumor is that maybe they're trying
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: to prolong who it is until Jericho's contract is fully
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: up at the end of the year, prolonging the story.
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: I mean, is there every I can't I was trying
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: to think of this earlier today.
• 22:39
  Speaker 11: I can't think of a single reason, not a single
• 22:43
  Speaker 11: Oh no, not a single time when when who is
• 22:46
  Speaker 11: the mystery person? The reveal was something good, like anything
• 22:50
  Speaker 11: other than other early disappointed.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and there's like you know, I don't mind.
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: I don't mind.
• 22:57
  Speaker 11: The mystery man runs in and pulls that hood off
• 22:59
  Speaker 11: right in there. But the longer any of this stick
• 23:02
  Speaker 11: goes on the work like, the more disappointed agains, you know,
• 23:05
  Speaker 11: the higher power, disappointing, Vince's illegitimate tone, disappointing, the row
• 23:09
  Speaker 11: g em, disappointing, who ran over, the who hits someone calls.
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: With the car, disappointment.
• 23:14
  Speaker 9: It's like the Black Scorpion, It's the King, take it
• 23:19
  Speaker 9: back to the og, the Black Scorpion, just to be
• 23:21
  Speaker 9: fucking Rick Flair.
• 23:22
  Speaker 11: And that's basically what they're doing now, especially if they're
• 23:24
  Speaker 11: putting different people under the under the mask to throw
• 23:27
  Speaker 11: off the crowd or whatever, Like do they I wonder
• 23:30
  Speaker 11: if they even have a planet all?
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: Do they even know who it is right this second?
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: You know? Like are they just flying by the seat
• 23:37
  Speaker 7: in their pants?
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: That's what it feels like.
• 23:39
  Speaker 9: It really feels like they're just winging this ship, like
• 23:42
  Speaker 9: all right, we're gonna have a mystery person come out.
• 23:44
  Speaker 9: And then it happened, and then everybody got there talking
• 23:46
  Speaker 9: to speculating and probably essentially figured it out immediately, like fuck,
• 23:51
  Speaker 9: everybody knows.
• 23:52
  Speaker 7: Everybody knows it's Austin Dary ship.
• 23:55
  Speaker 9: Right, we gotta pivot we gotta figure out something, all right,
• 23:57
  Speaker 9: we'll have another person come out and it'll be a
• 23:59
  Speaker 9: different person, so will will throw them off the scent,
• 24:01
  Speaker 9: and who knows, maybe we'll stretch and somebody may have
• 24:03
  Speaker 9: floated the idea.
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: Maybe we'll stretch it.
• 24:05
  Speaker 9: Out and reveal it to be Jericho, which, for the record,
• 24:07
  Speaker 9: would be the dumbest shipid like of all options it
• 24:12
  Speaker 9: could be. He would be the worst option for them
• 24:15
  Speaker 9: to go with, of Chris Jericho, because canonically speaking, whoever
• 24:20
  Speaker 9: this mass character has been turns out to be, canonically speaking,
• 24:24
  Speaker 9: this person has scaled a cage with relative speed and
• 24:28
  Speaker 9: done two curve stumps with considerable height on the stomp,
• 24:33
  Speaker 9: neither of which Chris Jericho is capable of doing. So
• 24:38
  Speaker 9: you're not about to have him rip that hood off
• 24:41
  Speaker 9: and have me sit here and believe that the same
• 24:44
  Speaker 9: that the motherfucker who climbed that stage, that cage and
• 24:48
  Speaker 9: stomped fucking hunk and who was it this past Monday,
• 24:55
  Speaker 9: whoever it was past stomp raised headed to the matt
• 25:03
  Speaker 9: was Chris Jericho. Like, you're not gonna get me to
• 25:06
  Speaker 9: canonically orkfe believe that ship, right, unless you waste the
• 25:09
  Speaker 9: time on Jericho unless it's more than feel who the
• 25:13
  Speaker 9: hell it is? Stop dragging the shit out. Everything doesn't
• 25:15
  Speaker 9: need to be a long, dragged out mystery of who
• 25:19
  Speaker 9: done it? Just give us the person and move on.
• 25:24
  Speaker 9: It's interesting, but it ain't that damn interesting.
• 25:28
  Speaker 11: Yeah, And if they've run a couple who done it lately,
• 25:30
  Speaker 11: it's I mean, they're all the same, obviously, but at
• 25:33
  Speaker 11: the end of the day, who done it plot is
• 25:37
  Speaker 11: the same no matter you know, no matter how you're
• 25:39
  Speaker 11: doing it, whether it's who, whether it's who's attacked Jade.
• 25:43
  Speaker 11: I feel like there was another one and then there's
• 25:46
  Speaker 11: now this one with the mask guy.
• 25:49
  Speaker 9: Come on, I mean, yeah, and I was gonna say
• 25:51
  Speaker 9: the who attacked j one? That's probably the only one
• 25:53
  Speaker 9: that worked out. That's the only one I could say that.
• 25:56
  Speaker 9: I think they executed well. And the only reason why
• 25:59
  Speaker 9: they secuted it well is because mostly mostly because of
• 26:05
  Speaker 9: the execution of the reveal and the fact that Jay
• 26:08
  Speaker 9: came down there and you had the two most likely
• 26:10
  Speaker 9: subjects in the ring, Naomi and Live, and up until
• 26:16
  Speaker 9: the absolute last second, they put it towards Live and
• 26:20
  Speaker 9: pretty much didn't reveal it to be Naomi, even though
• 26:22
  Speaker 9: people were speculating. It did not confirm it to be
• 26:24
  Speaker 9: Naomi pretty much until Jay swung on Naomi and for
• 26:30
  Speaker 9: a while, yeah, you.
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: Know, like it happened.
• 26:33
  Speaker 11: It happened maybe Beyonca, like then some the next week
• 26:35
  Speaker 11: or two being like, oh, we're going to figure this out,
• 26:37
  Speaker 11: and then they never mentioned it for like two months
• 26:39
  Speaker 11: until Jay's suddling appeared out of nowhere.
• 26:42
  Speaker 9: Yeah, like yeah, like, but what made it work the
• 26:45
  Speaker 9: best was the execution of the reveal. Jay came to
• 26:48
  Speaker 9: the ring beating the dog shit and whooping the dog
• 26:52
  Speaker 9: shit out of Naomi, with Bianca on the sideline losing
• 26:54
  Speaker 9: her mind in the cage.
• 26:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah, doesn't know what's going on exactly.
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: Like the execution is what worked on that.
• 27:02
  Speaker 9: I don't see like they're not gonna do something that
• 27:04
  Speaker 9: well with somebody pulling a hood off and a mask off.
• 27:11
  Speaker 9: So I don't see why what the point is in
• 27:14
  Speaker 9: dragging this out unless they feel like they're gonna try
• 27:19
  Speaker 9: to make this kickoff show at the beginning of the
• 27:22
  Speaker 9: year a huge deal and they're looking to pad this
• 27:25
  Speaker 9: show with this as well since we already have the
• 27:29
  Speaker 9: what the bron Breakers see them punk match? Oh god,
• 27:33
  Speaker 9: that's probably what the fuck they're gonna do. The reveal
• 27:39
  Speaker 9: is probably gonna happen in that fucking match.
• 27:42
  Speaker 11: Well there, and they've got so many they've got so
• 27:44
  Speaker 11: many tape shows coming up. Uh, you know they're certainly
• 27:48
  Speaker 11: not going to reveal it on a tape. Yeah, right,
• 27:55
  Speaker 11: So this is when we made Yeah, I mean that
• 27:58
  Speaker 11: first Raw of the year, the earliest.
• 28:03
  Speaker 9: Yeah, that's they're gonna do, goddamn it, lose the title
• 28:12
  Speaker 9: or not, we'll see, but that's probably when we're gonna
• 28:14
  Speaker 9: get the reveal.
• 28:15
  Speaker 12: Mmm.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Somebody else. I heard something else chatter online about montes
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Ford and I was like, I commented, like where and why?
• 28:26
  Speaker 7: Like, where is that has supposedly been one of the
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: people wearing the hood?
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: He was the word Monday, right.
• 28:33
  Speaker 9: I suppose he was theory under the hood of the
• 28:36
  Speaker 9: series and montes under the hood at Raw this past Monday, right, So.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Like, what the fuck's it? Pal? If it's not really
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: going to be these guys and there's just been staged,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: who is it really?
• 28:51
  Speaker 9: I'm still hoping and thinking that it's Austin Theory, and
• 28:55
  Speaker 9: I think they just put somebody with a different build
• 28:58
  Speaker 9: under it just to fuel the speculation.
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: And try to throw people off the scent.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, focus me.
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: The only thing I can.
• 29:08
  Speaker 9: Think of that could they could possibly do, maybe to
• 29:10
  Speaker 9: serve us even further, is if we get more than
• 29:13
  Speaker 9: one person, if we get two people out there.
• 29:18
  Speaker 7: We already have one more than one Americano. Do we
• 29:21
  Speaker 7: need mask No, we don't.
• 29:24
  Speaker 9: But if the only way that could possibly work is
• 29:28
  Speaker 9: we get multiple people at the same time, is if
• 29:31
  Speaker 9: both of them unmasked at the same time and it
• 29:33
  Speaker 9: turns out the hooded man was actually hooded men and
• 29:37
  Speaker 9: we get maybe both of them joining the vision speaking.
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: A hooded man.
• 29:43
  Speaker 11: Did anybody say that, Uh, somebody speculated Zoey Stark, what
• 29:49
  Speaker 11: are the.
• 29:51
  Speaker 7: It might be the reveal it's Sholley, But I.
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: Did hear that it could be.
• 30:00
  Speaker 16: I saw that floated up. I was like, I don't think,
• 30:04
  Speaker 16: way too small. Yeah, it would be interesting if it
• 30:08
  Speaker 16: was a woman, that would be it's not.
• 30:12
  Speaker 9: A woman, but yeah, but outside of the Judgment Day, yeah,
• 30:18
  Speaker 9: I mean, it'd be nice to have maybe more than one,
• 30:21
  Speaker 9: you know, multi gender faction other than just Judgment Day.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Yeah, judgment Now Judgment Day has three women.
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: I mean Dom has three women. Yeah, thirty down the
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: goat mm hmm.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: All right, let's uh. I want to get into this
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: p l E here and then we kind of spin
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: off some stuff off of it. I mean, there's only
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: four matches so far. I mean I doubt though I
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: had another match. I feel like, yeah, I think so too.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of it's going to be video
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: buff filler. And it starts, guys, it starts at eight o'clock.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: This is a later pl for us. I mean we've
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: been used to the seven thirty.
• 31:14
  Speaker 11: Yeah, and it's I think last time, last Taturday Night's event,
• 31:19
  Speaker 11: the first one that was exclusively on Peacock, and I
• 31:22
  Speaker 11: took something like, well they were constrained by two hours
• 31:25
  Speaker 11: and then it wasn't even two hours. No, maybe it'll
• 31:27
  Speaker 11: go two and a half hours, and it was like
• 31:30
  Speaker 11: it was like one hour forty five minutes of it.
• 31:34
  Speaker 7: But again, we're not gonna train with time here.
• 31:38
  Speaker 11: So you know, hopefully seeing his speech at the end
• 31:42
  Speaker 11: isn't isn't cut off like Bill Golber.
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, yeah, assuming that his match is last, which.
• 31:54
  Speaker 7: I can't.
• 31:54
  Speaker 11: I mean, all these rumors about it going first, I
• 31:57
  Speaker 11: get it, but like, won't that just kill all the fucking.
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: Crowds for the rest of the show.
• 32:02
  Speaker 7: I think, you know, like what and like what? It
• 32:05
  Speaker 7: just seems astonite and like I.
• 32:07
  Speaker 11: Get you, don't you know if you want to give
• 32:10
  Speaker 11: back and and not making about you and blah blah.
• 32:12
  Speaker 7: I get that, But what the hell was you gonna
• 32:15
  Speaker 7: be left? What's left after that?
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 32:18
  Speaker 17: Like you know, I don't want to want to see
• 32:21
  Speaker 17: uh fucking Dragon Lee and after that, you know.
• 32:26
  Speaker 7: I don't care.
• 32:28
  Speaker 9: Yeah, Like he has to be last, just if for
• 32:30
  Speaker 9: no other reasons, just because of the emotional weight that's
• 32:33
  Speaker 9: gonna happen with his last match, Like that's gonna if
• 32:37
  Speaker 9: you put that on first, you are gonna suck all
• 32:39
  Speaker 9: the emotion out of people. And that between the match
• 32:43
  Speaker 9: itself happened, obviously, there's gonna have to be some sort
• 32:45
  Speaker 9: of acknowledgement or he's got to give some sort of
• 32:49
  Speaker 9: maybe a farewell speech or something. But there has to
• 32:52
  Speaker 9: be something postmatch acknowledging the end, not just all right,
• 32:55
  Speaker 9: the match happens and he just walks out, like that's
• 32:57
  Speaker 9: gonna leave the audience.
• 33:00
  Speaker 11: Only only only only only thing I can think is
• 33:04
  Speaker 11: if if they do it and do it first and
• 33:09
  Speaker 11: either dun their low blows them right off the bat
• 33:13
  Speaker 11: and pins them or something like that, and then they
• 33:15
  Speaker 11: do something else where like there's a and.
• 33:18
  Speaker 7: A mystery you know, uh, someone you know, maybe Dwaine's
• 33:21
  Speaker 7: there and says, wait, you're not going out like that.
• 33:24
  Speaker 7: It's gonna be you and me in the main or
• 33:26
  Speaker 7: something like, you know, like ten the show.
• 33:28
  Speaker 11: That's the only one I could see them doing something
• 33:30
  Speaker 11: just to start, you know, because it just makes no
• 33:33
  Speaker 11: sense if seen A has the match in his career
• 33:36
  Speaker 11: is over and that's it, and then you're gonna have.
• 33:38
  Speaker 7: Three more matches after that, right something where yeah, I
• 33:43
  Speaker 7: think it's crewed over somehow and in that opening segment
• 33:46
  Speaker 7: and then they bring it back at the end somehow.
• 33:49
  Speaker 7: That's the only one I could see it working.
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And WWE is not that creative right now.
• 33:54
  Speaker 9: If they've showed us anything with these they showed us
• 33:57
  Speaker 9: anything with these Sorreay Night made events is that they
• 33:59
  Speaker 9: play them safe as hell. In this case, it works
• 34:03
  Speaker 9: to their benefit, given that all four of these matches
• 34:07
  Speaker 9: are exhibitions basically, like, there aren't any titles on the line,
• 34:11
  Speaker 9: no real stakes or storylines really other than potentially for
• 34:15
  Speaker 9: Gunter depending on the outcome of his match with Sina,
• 34:18
  Speaker 9: but other than that, they can afford to play it safe.
• 34:21
  Speaker 9: And if you're gonna play it safe like you have
• 34:22
  Speaker 9: been doing, then seen as a match has to go last.
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: It has to be the climax.
• 34:29
  Speaker 7: It's got that tag matches. AI Is it a title match?
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: Nope, No, it's just an exhibition. Scena mentioned that.
• 34:39
  Speaker 9: In the interview he did with Chris van Vliet, like
• 34:43
  Speaker 9: this was kind of not the whole Saturday Man event
• 34:45
  Speaker 9: was his idea, but it kind of sort of was
• 34:47
  Speaker 9: a bit in the sense that he wanted this or
• 34:50
  Speaker 9: his goal, his final, to be a showcase of the future.
• 34:55
  Speaker 9: So that's why we're getting all of these veterans or
• 34:59
  Speaker 9: established stars taking on an XT talent in the matches,
• 35:04
  Speaker 9: because he wanted to highlight the future and make it about,
• 35:06
  Speaker 9: you know, showing people what's next, as opposed to making
• 35:10
  Speaker 9: it just about him and his goodbye. So all these
• 35:14
  Speaker 9: matches are basically executions, I mean not executions, fucking exhibitions.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Is this the one in Saudi exhibitions?
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: I like it?
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Very good, executions, very nice.
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: You know, they're all gonna be exhibitions. Basically just go
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: out there and let them cook.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Johnston said he wanted NXT wrestlers on
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: this card, and that's that's great, man, Like, that's great, because, uh,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: let's let's get into this card here. Bailey versus Yeah,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Bailey versus Silverca right off the bat, Like, I think
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: I'm excited about seeing Solver this, Yeah, match.
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: Of the night.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: I'm excited to see a soul snatcher.
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: You think this is gonna be Batch of the night.
• 36:09
  Speaker 7: It's gonna be really good.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be good.
• 36:13
  Speaker 7: I'm way more interested in this than I am and
• 36:15
  Speaker 7: the other two.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: You don't think the tag match is gonna be.
• 36:19
  Speaker 11: Gon, but.
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that match is gonna steal the show
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: of the tag team mat. I think it'll be really.
• 36:29
  Speaker 7: Fun, but it doesn't interest me as much as Bailey, and.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: I honestly believe. I mean, I can call it down
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: right now. I feel like, uh, I feel like this one,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: we can see Bailey lose and we can see an
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: NXC star go over tonight. I mean, I think so.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: I think she's beating a health a lot of momentum
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: on NXT. I think uh, Bailey could take a fucking
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: hell to Soul Ruca. Mm hmm, Tyler, what do you think.
• 37:00
  Speaker 7: I would be?
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: It's definitely gonna be an interesting match. I think they
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: both have great technical technicality yea.
• 37:11
  Speaker 7: The air and.
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: I think maybe Bai Bailey. I see Bailly coming out
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: on top and I see her. She's going to see
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: the Soul snood Snatcher attack and Bailey somehow, like you know,
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: out maneuvers and gets the wind. But it should be
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: a good one.
• 37:32
  Speaker 7: Mm hmm.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: All right, Drey, what do you what are you? What
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: are you thinking?
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: I'm with you on this one. I think Bailey is
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: probably gonna take the l on this one. I think
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: she can.
• 37:45
  Speaker 9: She's gonna put over Soul Ruca. See Soul is one
• 37:48
  Speaker 9: of the brightest stars in NXC. She's definitely got superstar
• 37:53
  Speaker 9: potential written.
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: All over her. Her character is pretty well developed and
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: unique from well others.
• 38:01
  Speaker 7: She is.
• 38:03
  Speaker 9: A high flyer for the ages right now and has,
• 38:08
  Speaker 9: in my opinion, one of the best finishers in the
• 38:11
  Speaker 9: women's division.
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: That soul Snatcher is a fucking sight to be.
• 38:16
  Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, Like, it's got the name and the look,
• 38:19
  Speaker 9: and every time she executes it it looks brilliant.
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: So she's got it all and given that this is
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: the one match.
• 38:30
  Speaker 9: As far as uh well, one of two matches that
• 38:32
  Speaker 9: doesn't involve a champion in it, this is where the
• 38:36
  Speaker 9: space is for an NXT star to go over a
• 38:40
  Speaker 9: main roster star without it hurting that the main roster
• 38:45
  Speaker 9: people are hurting those that champion. So yeah, I definitely
• 38:48
  Speaker 9: think Soul Ruka is gonna pull out the win on
• 38:50
  Speaker 9: this one. And this should be a excellent match, like
• 38:56
  Speaker 9: a great showcase for her, getting her in front of these.
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: An audience.
• 39:01
  Speaker 9: This big, probably bigger than they've ever had on NXC,
• 39:04
  Speaker 9: which is one of the things that John Cena also
• 39:05
  Speaker 9: said as far as his uh his thinking behind this
• 39:11
  Speaker 9: Saturday night main event is also putting these NXC stars
• 39:15
  Speaker 9: on a big stage and seeing if they've got what
• 39:18
  Speaker 9: it takes. So it's basically like here it is, big crowd,
• 39:22
  Speaker 9: big lights, go out there, Let's see if they got it,
• 39:25
  Speaker 9: see if they're ready for the big time. And I
• 39:27
  Speaker 9: think in this match, so Ruka is definitely going to
• 39:30
  Speaker 9: show that she's ready for the big time.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Awesome, Yeah, I'm excited. I think this might be her
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: chance to get call up to the main roster. She
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: put I think for all these guys putting on a
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: good show. This is uh ah man, it's a good
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: opportunity because some of these people, I think she had
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: been called up a while ago. Let's get into the
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: tag match AJ style. Oh this one is for the title.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, Doyle, Doyle.
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: I'm just I'm just looking forward to it.
• 40:07
  Speaker 11: I think for me personally, this is the match I'm
• 40:11
  Speaker 11: most excited about.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:13
  Speaker 11: Yeah, Slark was fucking incredible that that what's false Snatcher
• 40:17
  Speaker 11: is fucking unbelievable.
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, and Bailey's great, you know.
• 40:22
  Speaker 7: Uh and you know she has had that you know,
• 40:25
  Speaker 7: training camp she did for.
• 40:27
  Speaker 11: A bunch of indie ladies over the weekend, so you know,
• 40:30
  Speaker 11: she's definitely if yeah, I think, I guess, I guess.
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: You don't get a hell of a lot.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: Of main roster versus NXT matches.
• 40:39
  Speaker 11: I feel like the main roster wrestler should win ninety
• 40:43
  Speaker 11: five percent of the time, right, It should.
• 40:45
  Speaker 7: Be pretty rare for an XT star to be the
• 40:48
  Speaker 7: main roster person.
• 40:49
  Speaker 11: But this is definitely a place where I can see
• 40:51
  Speaker 11: that happening, especially, you know, in light of the fact
• 40:55
  Speaker 11: that Bailey is so.
• 40:58
  Speaker 7: Magnanimous.
• 40:59
  Speaker 17: You know, so if any of the If any of
• 41:02
  Speaker 17: the three NXC matches are or NXC talents are going
• 41:09
  Speaker 17: to win, this would probably be.
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: The one, right exactly. Yeah, Bailey is more than selfless
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: enough to say, yep, give her the dove. I don't care.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, uh okay, moving on the tag match, this one's
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: actually for the World Tag Team titles. It's not.
• 41:33
  Speaker 9: All these matches are just all these matches, from what
• 41:36
  Speaker 9: I understand, are just exhibitions.
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: There aren't no titles are on the line.
• 41:41
  Speaker 11: The Wikipedia says it is, but then the the WWE
• 41:44
  Speaker 11: websitles it says the Tag Team champions, but it doesn't
• 41:48
  Speaker 11: say it's a tag team championship match.
• 41:51
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: I haven't seen anything that said it's for the tag titles.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Here on the Wikipedia says tag team match for
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: the World Tag Team Titles. Yeah.
• 42:03
  Speaker 11: And the only other yeah the graphic, the graphic doesn't
• 42:06
  Speaker 11: say tag game title match.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:11
  Speaker 7: Bring you know, graphics never lie.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then again like everything can change, who knows
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: what could happen on Friday. Yeah, But they have been
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: defending those titles I think every week, right just about
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: They just defended them again against the Viking Raiders. The
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: We're Viking war Riders.
• 42:33
  Speaker 9: Yeah right, like New Day has been championing for a
• 42:39
  Speaker 9: match and then all of a sudden, out of nowhere
• 42:41
  Speaker 9: to like, yeah, Viking Raiders, We're gonna snatch.
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: Them up from catering and give them a title match
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: out of nowhere.
• 42:47
  Speaker 7: What's the what's the fat one?
• 42:49
  Speaker 14: He looks like somebody shaved gritty.
• 42:54
  Speaker 11: I've are Yeah, Like the worst thing that ever happened
• 42:58
  Speaker 11: to him was his tag partner coming back, right, because
• 43:00
  Speaker 11: he was having a nice little uh fellow push yeah,
• 43:06
  Speaker 11: and then he might have got hurt. But then his
• 43:08
  Speaker 11: partner came back and there were the stupid Viking Raiders again.
• 43:12
  Speaker 7: It's just like whatever, Like he was actually kind of
• 43:15
  Speaker 7: fun as a single.
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And are they still doing the Viking thing or
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: are they the bikers?
• 43:21
  Speaker 7: What?
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: What is it now?
• 43:23
  Speaker 9: I don't he there ammediately, I did not pay attention
• 43:26
  Speaker 9: to their gear. I know they yet they had the
• 43:28
  Speaker 9: Viking thing. Then they were just like bikers and war raiders.
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: And then.
• 43:34
  Speaker 9: And yeah, like like you said, I had a good
• 43:36
  Speaker 9: he was cooking as a solo. Yeah, and then his
• 43:41
  Speaker 9: partner came back or he I think I think I
• 43:43
  Speaker 9: think he did get injured and they just decided to
• 43:45
  Speaker 9: keep them both out so they both were ready to
• 43:47
  Speaker 9: come back, and then they brought them back and then
• 43:50
  Speaker 9: promptly sent them to catering.
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and then brought them back for a tag title match.
• 43:58
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 43:58
  Speaker 11: I mean I think he was at least I think
• 44:00
  Speaker 11: he at least had a US title match or something
• 44:03
  Speaker 11: at some point.
• 44:04
  Speaker 7: Uh, it might have been in like a fatal four
• 44:07
  Speaker 7: way to be number one. He was. He wasn't really
• 44:10
  Speaker 7: in contention for a single title, but he was kind
• 44:12
  Speaker 7: of in the conversation anyway.
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he was.
• 44:15
  Speaker 9: He was in the tournament or something like that and
• 44:16
  Speaker 9: had had a couple of good showings in the matter.
• 44:22
  Speaker 9: But either way, the least, Yeah, to their credit, at
• 44:25
  Speaker 9: least they're trying to apparently do something with the world
• 44:28
  Speaker 9: tag title scene.
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 44:31
  Speaker 9: I mean we got New Day, Yeah, I mean, Raiders
• 44:33
  Speaker 9: back in the position. We got a j and Dragon
• 44:36
  Speaker 9: Lee at the champions. USO's are back in the picture now, So.
• 44:41
  Speaker 6: We'll see how long that lasts.
• 44:44
  Speaker 11: Well, you know, we've kind of joked before they can
• 44:46
  Speaker 11: get one of the divisions going at once, but they
• 44:49
  Speaker 11: can't do.
• 44:51
  Speaker 6: And can't do all three.
• 44:53
  Speaker 7: But then the women's division actually seems.
• 44:55
  Speaker 11: Like it's going decent, so it'll be interesting to see
• 44:58
  Speaker 11: if they can get to They have SmackDown going for
• 45:01
  Speaker 11: a little while, but that seems completely falling apart.
• 45:06
  Speaker 7: Yep, they have.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: We just talked about last episode, how many tag teams
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: were just like recently thrown together. It seems like everybody's
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: in a tag team now. But I mean that's good.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: The tag team division needed it. It was kind of
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: a lacking competitors.
• 45:27
  Speaker 9: But at least these are pairings that make sense. It's
• 45:29
  Speaker 9: not just like random Star, Random Star, You're a tag team,
• 45:32
  Speaker 9: Now go out.
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: There and make it work. Yeah, you know, pairings are
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: people who make sense.
• 45:36
  Speaker 9: Whether it's the dusos is obviously former tag teams, or
• 45:40
  Speaker 9: we in EO who have formed this friendship over months
• 45:43
  Speaker 9: and now if they're going forward as a tack team,
• 45:45
  Speaker 9: it makes sense. Ka Bookie Warriors makes sense. We in Roxanne,
• 45:49
  Speaker 9: I mean in Roxanne, Roxanne and Raquel Judgment Day makes sense.
• 45:54
  Speaker 9: And Naya and Lash they're the newest ones. But you know,
• 45:59
  Speaker 9: it's somewhat makes since that you know, I has personally
• 46:02
  Speaker 9: selected her based on a match they had an NXT
• 46:07
  Speaker 9: and she's called up to the main roster, so there's
• 46:09
  Speaker 9: at least a logical threat to follow for their pairings.
• 46:13
  Speaker 9: So this is better than throw two darts at the
• 46:17
  Speaker 9: wall and wherever they hit your attack team.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: Now right, Oh, like AJ Styles and dragon Ly Yeah,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: our current our current world tag team champions, like, dude,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: like their tag team name could be literally I think
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: they discussed it, AJ Lee very random, I know, and
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: it's like, I hope AJ Styles kind of gets away
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: from the tag team division soon. And you know, he
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: has one year left and he's going to retire.
• 46:49
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I think I think this is kind of just
• 46:52
  Speaker 11: tread and water for him until they go into his
• 46:56
  Speaker 11: retirement program.
• 46:58
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, yeah, get him and dragon He said
• 47:01
  Speaker 9: he doesn't want a retirement tour like John Cena did.
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: Because Sina.
• 47:07
  Speaker 9: That's another thing that's seen to revealed in his interview
• 47:10
  Speaker 9: with Chris van vliet Is. He pitched the same thing
• 47:13
  Speaker 9: to AJ Styles, and AJ just looked and said, dude,
• 47:15
  Speaker 9: I'm forty eight.
• 47:18
  Speaker 11: Well, you know, like I like AJ Styles fine and all,
• 47:21
  Speaker 11: but not everybody is should or is worthy.
• 47:24
  Speaker 7: Of getting this kind of treatment.
• 47:27
  Speaker 11: And I hate to say, but sorry, I don't think
• 47:30
  Speaker 11: AJ Styles, especially in the light of the fact that
• 47:33
  Speaker 11: so much of the best years of his career were elsewhere.
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: Mm hm, I kind of agree. He doesn't need a
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: whole year.
• 47:41
  Speaker 9: He could maybe have a storyline that goes for a
• 47:46
  Speaker 9: few months and yeah, I'm good with that.
• 47:49
  Speaker 14: He doesn't need a new T shirt in every market
• 47:52
  Speaker 14: and you know, yeah.
• 47:55
  Speaker 9: Kind of makes me wish we had a heel GM
• 47:57
  Speaker 9: right now because aj Styles will probably be the perfect
• 47:59
  Speaker 9: person to have a I'm gonna force you out, you know,
• 48:04
  Speaker 9: management trying to force him out and he keeps fighting
• 48:06
  Speaker 9: them off.
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: Similar to like what was the Rick didnt Rick Flair
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: do that?
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 48:11
  Speaker 7: I love Ric Flair's. Rick Flair's retirement program was basically
• 48:17
  Speaker 7: the next time I lose and went and retired.
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and that was fun.
• 48:22
  Speaker 7: That was really fun.
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: I think that would be perfect for aj Styles.
• 48:29
  Speaker 9: That could be like, hey, my next loss, even if
• 48:32
  Speaker 9: he does, even if he declares himself like, look, I'm
• 48:35
  Speaker 9: gonna keep going until I lose. The next time I lose,
• 48:38
  Speaker 9: I'm done, and then he just has match after match
• 48:41
  Speaker 9: with whoever. And that's the big mystery in going into
• 48:45
  Speaker 9: each match or the the the interest in each match,
• 48:48
  Speaker 9: is this the one he loses Nope, I lives to
• 48:50
  Speaker 9: fight another day.
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: Is this one he loses?
• 48:52
  Speaker 9: And then it just happens like, don't hype it up
• 48:55
  Speaker 9: like my final match is like no, he just at
• 48:58
  Speaker 9: some point it.
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and then that's it.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: They're gonna verse Javon Javon Evans and Leon Slater. Then
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: those are two guys I haven't heard of. Maybe I
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: haven't really seen much of their stuff on NXC. Have
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: any of you guys seen any of their matches?
• 49:23
  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 49:24
  Speaker 11: You bet you better learn how to pronounce his name
• 49:26
  Speaker 11: because you're going to be hearing a lot more from.
• 49:30
  Speaker 5: Boy is bouncy Dude.
• 49:35
  Speaker 11: I don't want the hell of a lot of NXC,
• 49:37
  Speaker 11: and I know all about Evans.
• 49:40
  Speaker 9: I need to look him up, Wayne, because Javon Evans
• 49:43
  Speaker 9: got superstar written all over him.
• 49:45
  Speaker 5: All Right, you haven't seen his work? You are in
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: for a treat this week.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: Is That's what I'm excited for? Like some fresh met fly.
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: You can absolutely fucking fly.
• 49:58
  Speaker 9: You didn't want you didn't watch his matching the he
• 50:01
  Speaker 9: had a match, but didn't he have a match with Gulter.
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: In the in the last time it was now tournament?
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: When did Evans and Gilter?
• 50:10
  Speaker 11: Yeah?
• 50:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he had a match with Randy orton n x T.
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: That was great. God, he's a couple of.
• 50:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 50:26
  Speaker 9: He just won the Iron Survivor match at the last
• 50:29
  Speaker 9: nx T p L at deadline, so he's the number
• 50:32
  Speaker 9: one contender for the n x T titles. So he's
• 50:35
  Speaker 9: about to face over Fami again. At UH it was
• 50:38
  Speaker 9: called New Year's Evil Juan Evans.
• 50:43
  Speaker 5: I don't. I'm not saying he needs to be called
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: up to the main roster. No, I still I still
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: think he needs Yeah, yeah, all the tools.
• 50:54
  Speaker 7: I think it's fair to share exactly.
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: When you want to talk about the future, He's it.
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: He is the future.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: I gotta check him out. Tyler, have you have you heard?
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: Have you seen some of these matches?
• 51:11
  Speaker 7: I have not. I have not.
• 51:13
  Speaker 6: I'm I'm having a slight issue with some of my technology,
• 51:18
  Speaker 6: so i haven't been able to keep up with everything.
• 51:24
  Speaker 7: So it's like hearing you.
• 51:25
  Speaker 6: Guys talk about it, I'm getting a fill in and
• 51:28
  Speaker 6: I'm like puzzle pieces are being filled. So I'm greatly appreciative.
• 51:32
  Speaker 6: If there is anything that I can offer insight in now,
• 51:36
  Speaker 6: I'm glad to do that.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, like you and me like this weekend. This
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: will be a treat because, like, I'm excited to see
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: how this okay. Like we discussed earlier, I'm not familiar
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: with the the.
• 51:49
  Speaker 9: TNA guy Later is I've seen I've seen a little
• 51:53
  Speaker 9: bit of his works. Later can I absolutely cook too.
• 51:55
  Speaker 9: He's that he's another one of those high flyer guys
• 51:59
  Speaker 9: almost in a this is gonna sound bad, but it's
• 52:03
  Speaker 9: not meant to be an insult, but in a Ricochet
• 52:05
  Speaker 9: type in terms of N Ring performance, like he can
• 52:09
  Speaker 9: absolutely cook.
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: I think he has.
• 52:12
  Speaker 9: He has more personality than Ricochet, but as far as
• 52:15
  Speaker 9: the N Ring work, he's he's kind of that guy
• 52:19
  Speaker 9: that type. Both of them two together are definitely definitely
• 52:24
  Speaker 9: good in the ring together. They've got good chemistry with
• 52:26
  Speaker 9: each other. I think about it. Even even Swarft Strickland
• 52:32
  Speaker 9: had high praise for Javon Evans and Slater and them
• 52:37
  Speaker 9: in an interview he I think he did with Chris
• 52:40
  Speaker 9: van Vliet because people were talking about, like you know,
• 52:45
  Speaker 9: people were saying like Javon Evans is better than Swarve Strickland,
• 52:49
  Speaker 9: and Swarve said, like, yeah, they're right. At twenty one
• 52:53
  Speaker 9: years old, Javon Evans is better than I was at
• 52:56
  Speaker 9: twenty one years old. Like, hell, javan Evans is twenty
• 52:59
  Speaker 9: one is better than I was at thirty. That's how
• 53:01
  Speaker 9: it's supposed to be. Next generation looks at what the
• 53:04
  Speaker 9: people did in the past did and they take it
• 53:06
  Speaker 9: to the next level. So he's like, and that's exactly
• 53:09
  Speaker 9: what guys like Javon Evans and Leon Slater and then
• 53:11
  Speaker 9: we're doing. They looked at people like myself and Ricochet
• 53:15
  Speaker 9: and other ones, and they're taking what we did and
• 53:18
  Speaker 9: taking it to that next level. So yeah, both of
• 53:21
  Speaker 9: them have bright futures ahead of them with their work.
• 53:27
  Speaker 11: I think Savon Evans has a lot of Jeff Hardy
• 53:30
  Speaker 11: and him like in terms of like, I don't know,
• 53:36
  Speaker 11: he does little he does little things differently than everybody else,
• 53:42
  Speaker 11: and he puts a little twist on stuff.
• 53:44
  Speaker 7: You know, just even even even normal moves.
• 53:47
  Speaker 11: He just kind of does stuff sometimes a little differently
• 53:50
  Speaker 11: than other people.
• 53:51
  Speaker 7: Uh, and that's kind of cool.
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: I think.
• 53:54
  Speaker 9: Yeah, he definitely has a way of making simple things
• 53:57
  Speaker 9: his own because his finisher is just a cutter. But
• 54:01
  Speaker 9: what makes it his unique is one the height that
• 54:05
  Speaker 9: he gets on it and that little flex that he
• 54:09
  Speaker 9: does before he lands it just that little little subtle
• 54:14
  Speaker 9: nuance that he puts on his version of it makes it.
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he definitely.
• 54:23
  Speaker 9: I could definitely see that Jeff Hardy aspect to him
• 54:26
  Speaker 9: without the crash and burn.
• 54:28
  Speaker 6: Sure hopefully.
• 54:34
  Speaker 5: So Yeah, y'all, y'all are y'all are in for a treat.
• 54:36
  Speaker 9: If y'all haven't seen him, y'all can y'all can go
• 54:38
  Speaker 9: into this match of blind or you can go on
• 54:41
  Speaker 9: YouTube and look him up, see some highlights or with
• 54:43
  Speaker 9: some his matches and get a sense of what you're
• 54:46
  Speaker 9: in for.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: Cool.
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but this is my pick on what I think
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: is going to be the match of the night. Yeah.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, I obviously AJ and Dragonly you're gonna if
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: this is match, regardless title match. I mean, I still
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: think they're gonna get the w by. It's gonna be
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: a hell of a match.
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: So yeah, I do think are gonna win. Yes, I agree,
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: whether the titles on the line or not.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: Cool. Cool, I mean, Tyler, I guess you're in a
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: grandson a little bit of Vincie. I mean, do you
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: think they're gonna they're gonna have the n X T.
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 55:29
  Speaker 6: Definitely?
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, uh I guess' was move on. This
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: match could probably be the one that's gonna open. It
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: would make the most amount of sense. Uh Cody Rhodes
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: versus uh the NXT champion. Yeah, I've seen a few. Yeah,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: I've seen a few of his matches. He's a big
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: some bitch uh uh six foot six three pounds, He's
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: a big guy.
• 56:07
  Speaker 5: Uh Rula.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: Do you guys think it's too late to like bring
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: this guy to the main roster and you think we'll
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: ever get him get him in the same ring with
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: like brock Plesner.
• 56:19
  Speaker 7: Too late, too late?
• 56:21
  Speaker 5: Right, in my opinion, he should have been game to
• 56:23
  Speaker 5: the main roster.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I mean, like a lot of these Yeah,
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: it might be people who should have been to the
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: main ross already.
• 56:30
  Speaker 11: He honestly, if they're if they're going to bring him
• 56:33
  Speaker 11: up and fuck it up, I'd rather him spend an
• 56:35
  Speaker 11: next year, year and a half whatever it is in NXT.
• 56:39
  Speaker 14: How many There's another reason I don't pay that much
• 56:41
  Speaker 14: attention to the XTI because you fall in love with
• 56:43
  Speaker 14: these NXC talents and then call him up to the
• 56:45
  Speaker 14: main roster and they fuck it up.
• 56:48
  Speaker 7: Now, I don't know if oba family is fuck upable.
• 56:50
  Speaker 11: But if they don't have anything for him on the
• 56:53
  Speaker 11: main roster, I'd rather than leave him in NXT unless
• 56:56
  Speaker 11: they're absolutely ready to do something with him.
• 56:58
  Speaker 7: You know what I mean?
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 56:59
  Speaker 9: I agree with that completely, and that's that's my one
• 57:03
  Speaker 9: concern is or why I think maybe they have not
• 57:07
  Speaker 9: brought him up because they don't they didn't have anything
• 57:09
  Speaker 9: planned for him, or they didn't have an idea of
• 57:12
  Speaker 9: what to do with him other than just call him up,
• 57:15
  Speaker 9: which is why my pitch for him to call up
• 57:17
  Speaker 9: to be called up to the main roster was around
• 57:20
  Speaker 9: the US title. I thought the role that Iliad Dragonoff
• 57:25
  Speaker 9: has played. Don't get me wrong, I like ilia dragon Off.
• 57:28
  Speaker 9: I was a fan when he got first called up Scott,
• 57:32
  Speaker 9: I saw his matches at NXT, liked the guy, But
• 57:35
  Speaker 9: I thought that role should have gone to Oba Febbi.
• 57:38
  Speaker 9: I thought Oba Femi should have been the one to
• 57:41
  Speaker 9: debut on the main roster, answering Sammy's Ain's open challenge
• 57:45
  Speaker 9: and defeat him and become the US Champion in his debut.
• 57:51
  Speaker 9: It would be consistent with his character of being the
• 57:53
  Speaker 9: ruler and yet another big monster type guy with some
• 57:59
  Speaker 9: actions with some ability with some character, with some presence
• 58:04
  Speaker 9: who could have.
• 58:06
  Speaker 5: Taken that and went with it.
• 58:09
  Speaker 9: And I think because I feel like the US this
• 58:12
  Speaker 9: open challenge has kind of lost a little bit of
• 58:14
  Speaker 9: his luster since Eli You're Dragon Off has gotten it,
• 58:19
  Speaker 9: Like his matches don't suck, but they they don't seem
• 58:23
  Speaker 9: to be as exciting as what they were with Sammy's Ain.
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: Right, and and they're doing who are you.
• 58:34
  Speaker 7: What? I don't believe it.
• 58:39
  Speaker 9: Hey, I give credit where credit is due, but yeah,
• 58:45
  Speaker 9: they're just they're not as interesting. And then they're doing
• 58:47
  Speaker 9: the whole thing with Tomaso Choppel wanting a shot and
• 58:53
  Speaker 9: not giving it to him, Like, how the funk is
• 58:56
  Speaker 9: that consistent with an open challenge. I'm not gonna give
• 59:00
  Speaker 9: it to you because you're a jackass.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: So.
• 59:05
  Speaker 5: Open challenge, anyone can step the fuck.
• 59:10
  Speaker 7: Up people in the aisle to try to get to
• 59:15
  Speaker 7: the ring to answer the challenge, right right, And.
• 59:18
  Speaker 5: This guy's like, I'll face anybody except you because I
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: don't like you out of here with that bullshit.
• 59:25
  Speaker 11: I kind of feel like that's beneath over family though,
• 59:29
  Speaker 11: Like I kind of feel like when they bring him up,
• 59:31
  Speaker 11: he's going to be immediately in the made.
• 59:33
  Speaker 6: Picture like I can.
• 59:34
  Speaker 11: I can see him being not winning the Rumble maybe,
• 59:39
  Speaker 11: but being in the final four as recently as next month.
• 59:44
  Speaker 11: Uh yeah, I think I think his debut will and
• 59:47
  Speaker 11: needs to be even bigger than that.
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: So look at your point, I say, I get what
• 59:53
  Speaker 5: you're saying.
• 59:53
  Speaker 9: My thing, My thing was just be that he could
• 59:56
  Speaker 9: have been the dominant US champion, have been basically just
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 9: people stepping up and getting beat down. It was opposed
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 9: to like, it's still be an open challenge, but he'd
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 9: be looking for someone to actually challenge him, and that's
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 9: how you build him up as just this dominant big deal.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 9: It wouldn't be in the same it'd make the US open.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 9: It make the open challenge a little bit different as
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 9: opposed to what Sammy was doing, where he was just
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 9: having banger matches after banger matches and making people think
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 9: he might actually lose, whereas oh, but would just basically
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 9: monopolize it for a moment, like whoever wants to come
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 9: and get it all right, you comeing to ring.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 5: A whooping, you ass who's next?
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 9: And like I said, his character of being the ruler,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 9: I am the ruler of the US of this US
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 9: title and I'm looking for somebody's challenge, but it'd be
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 9: his reign could be something to the US title, similar
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 9: to what Gunster was doing with the IC title, and
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 9: that would have been the way to build him up
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 9: until somebody actually is worthy enough or good enough to
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 9: finally defeat him. Or if you really want to strap
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 9: the rocket to him, let him become what we haven't
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 9: seen in a while, a double champion of US and
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 9: eventually WW champion.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: Mmm.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 9: You just push him all the way and then eventually,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 9: you know, he comes w W champion and drops the
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 9: US title. But that's a way to have something to
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 9: do with him and make him a big deal. I
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 9: thought that would have worked out much better than what
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 9: we're currently getting with Dragon Off.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 7: Mhm.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 6: I figure.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, obviously Coddy Rose isn't gonna put him over,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: but I bet he's gonna make him look good in
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: that ring.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 11: I mean, yeah, I'm I bet you he's gonna come
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 11: really fucking close.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: Yea.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: And yeah, you know it's gonna take notice when this
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: man comes back to the main roster. It's like I
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: put you know, I didn't beat you, but I pushed
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: you to your limit. You know, I'm excited.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 5: I don't know that we're gonna get winner in this match.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 9: I think I think they're gonna want to given that
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 9: they're both obviously the champion of their of their division
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 9: like Cody w W and ob the NXT. I don't
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 9: know if they go if they want the NXT champion
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 9: or Oba Fammy to take an l even if it's
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 9: to the top guy in Cody. Maybe it happens, but
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 9: i'd be I would not be surprised if we get
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 9: a no finish in this because my prediction, I think
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 9: Drew is gonna show up and interfere in this match,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 9: and that's.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 5: Gonna be That's my prediction.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 7: That's that's smart.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 5: I think Drew is gonna cost her a no finish. Now.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 9: I would man if we potentially get that Ober Fami
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 9: Drew McIntyre face to face.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 5: M hmm, yeah, yeah, you.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: Know what, Drew sounds pretty damn possible after what happened
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: this week.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean would be some juicy work.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 9: Obviously they wouldn't get in any type of brawl, but
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 9: I could see Oba being pissed off that, you know,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 9: Drew interfered in this match and getting right up in
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 9: and Oba getting right up in Drew's face and we
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 9: just get that juicy ass stare down and then Cody
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 9: probably comes in and tries to attack Drew and get
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 9: some more licks in or whatever. But I'm not picking
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 9: a winner in this one because I think it's gonna
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 9: end in no context because of Drew McIntyre.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah that's good thinking.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, I kind of agree. Now, I mean,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: after all the ship they had been and I don't
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: understand why we're still doing this Cody and Drew feud.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: I'm kinda we're just constantly feeding Drew to Cody, and
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: Drew's just losing none, just back to back to back
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: to Cody.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, Cody's just as interesting as the Drew
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 5: punk feud.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: Definitely, No, exactly, Yeah, yeah, because like every time Drew
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: gets fed to Cody as like, I know, Drew's never
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: going over it. It's unfortunate. Uh you know, Drew has
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: only been heavyweight champion for all but five minutes as
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: a heel.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 7: Uh so.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, Tyler. What do you who do you
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: think is gonna win this match? Man? Let me get
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: your your thoughts.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 6: In this roads. I'm gonna lock him with codey roads
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 6: if Although I am compelled to uh agree with Dre,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 6: I feel like he's on the right track. So I
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 6: will say, if if there is a winner, it would
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 6: be Cody Rhods. You know, I think he's, you know,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 6: the top guy. He likes being the top guy, and
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 6: you know, the top guy always wins. So like Doyle said,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 6: he's was probably gonna get Hella close to pulling a
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 6: w out. You know, might might show Cody a couple
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 6: of things to keep him on his toes for a
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 6: face to face accounter in the future. But at the
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 6: end of the day, you know, either interference or Cody win.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 6: By lean towards Cody getting a clean win.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm mm.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 5: Hmm a clean win.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm saying clean win. Okay, one two three, Uh,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: Doyle you in the grants one two three, Yeah, I
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: mean I.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 14: Haven't a prepared to say Cody, but Drey really followed
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 14: me on a no contest or d Q, so they
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 14: want to go with that.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 7: That makes a lot of sense to me. If not, ye,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 7: I think I don't. I don't think. I don't think.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 6: I don't think o Femi is gonna.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 7: Win, though maybe he should. It would be a lot
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 7: more in.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 9: Yeah, interesting, Cody's the champion and then this dude over
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 9: just comes up there and just whoops his ass. So
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 9: now Cody's got something to live in fear of. Like, fuck,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 9: that dude comes up to the main roster. I hope
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 9: they send him the raw.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that'd be nice. Gee, we could use more
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: people on raw. We can use some fresh meat on raw.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: Tired of seeing the same fucking feuds every week? Yeat
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: this judgment? That man, that's all Monday Night a little bit.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 7: Only.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 9: I think the problem right now is just that it's
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 9: the same people the last couple of months. In the
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 9: main event scene, it's the Vision and then on the
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 9: other side Pum Jay l a Night, Jimmy in and
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 9: out and Roman in and out. This has been the
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 9: same people for months, but we have without any real resolution.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 9: Although maybe War Games is the final resolution that we've gotten,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 9: because at least now it seems like we're just going
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 9: to forward towards bron and Punk. So let's see what
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 9: happens at the beginning of the year, so maybe they
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 9: shake it up finally.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: Well, guys, let's get on to uh what we pray
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: to God is the main event, and that is John
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: Cena's last match, his retirement match against Gunter who uh
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: Gunther beat Javan Evans so so mischief and then Carmelo
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: Hayes with a pinfall, and then Solo Socoa with a
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: pinfall got him here through the tournament, and then h
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: l A. Knight finally. Uh you know what, I I
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: have a theory that man, this is a hot take,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: I guess because everybody's gonna have a little different opinion here.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: All right, we know that Johnson has only tapped out
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: three times in his career, four times, four times by
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: three guys. Uh, does anybody remember who those people are?
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's in front of me, so I already.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 5: Okay, Jericho bin while.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, okay, there you go. Spoiler.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 9: You shouldn't have asked You shouldn't have asked us at
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 9: the beginning of the show because we went to the Google.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 11: Yeah, but like yeah, like only only well he also
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 11: he also there was one he had a technical submission once.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 7: Uh. Oddly enough, I fl.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 11: On Recef Day when he passed out in the Accolade, right,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 11: which counts he didn't.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 5: Tap out.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: And I was kind of thinking the something similar Doyle maybe.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 11: The way this might end, I would agree, especially since
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 11: they made such a deal out of never you know
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 11: of Duncer.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: Uh saying never give up or whatever.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he made such a big deal of that.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 5: In this promo.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I agree with you, and I think I think
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 11: it doesn't win, which I don't think is entirely off
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 11: the table. But if he doesn't win, I think it'll
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 11: be him passing it out rather than Yeah, agreed, And uh,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 11: I mean.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: I'd be I'd be okay with that. Uh goun there
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: has made plenty of people, you know, Tap pass out
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: to his fucking finisher, so so why not I And
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: you know, I know a lot of people weren't really
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: all that happy with the decision that we're getting going through,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: But I I believe that going Through is the right
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: guy at the right place at the right time.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are piss waiting, you know,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: they were clamoring for like Jericho or Edge or you know.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: But the thing is is, these guys are what we're
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: what are we requesting his last retirement match be against
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: somebody else who pretty much should be on their way
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: to retirement as well. I mean, I like the idea
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: of putting over an active wrestler on the roster. You know,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: he's no spring chicken, you know, Gun throughs In is
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: what thirties, but still he's an active roster member.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 7: Yeh.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 13: But here's the thing, And I've thought about this a lot,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 13: because I think I even advocated for Javon Evans winning
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 13: the whole thing earlier when we originally talked about this, but.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 7: I have oh yeah, the same thing, but I completely
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 7: changed my tune on it, and I'll tell you why.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 7: Because yes, those both of those guys.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 11: Are in the OPAEI and Trick Williams and those kind
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 11: of people are absolutely the future people.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 7: Yes, absolutely they could use a huge boost.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 11: That is, you know, beating and seeing it as his
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 11: final matches, but they aren't ready to go main event
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 11: WrestleMania tomorrow.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 7: Dunter Is he hasn't done that yet. He hasn't. He's
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 7: been the.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 11: Runner up champion, but he still hasn't had the he
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 11: hasn't been WWE champion.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 7: He still has a level up to go as dominant
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 7: as he's been and he's a guy that can do it.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 11: And we'll do it right now, you know, not next year,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 11: not see as years like tomorrow right now, And that's
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 11: why I don't have any problem with it being gun there.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 11: And at first that's kind of dead, but the mar
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 11: I thought about it, Gunter's ready to take the ball
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 11: and put it over the gold line. You know, if
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 11: you give the ball to Trick Williams say he has
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 11: to run eighty yards with the ball, still, you.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 7: Know, Gunter's ready to put it to the end zone
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 7: right fucking now.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 5: You are one hundred correct in that.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 9: I had the same thinking on that at first as well,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 9: and just like you, I put some thought into it
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 9: and came to that same conclusion. There's levels to being
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 9: the next one up. You could be the next one
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 9: up in terms of being main roster, next one up,
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 9: next one up in terms of being a superstar, and
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 9: then there's main event, top guy, next one up. And
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 9: right now, the most a person who most fits that
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 9: right now amongst the quote unquote next generation is Gunter
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 9: hands down. There's nobody else on that level. Bron Breaker's
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 9: not there yet, Oba's not there yet, Trick isn't there yet,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 9: and anyone else is now not next. So he's the
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 9: He is absolutely the one who's next. So if you're
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 9: gonna have top guy John Cena give that rub to
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 9: the next top guy heel or babyface, it has to
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 9: be Gunter and that's the only one that makes that
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 9: really makes any kind of sense. That's where they kind
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 9: of That's where it did not work for Solo when
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 9: he beat John Cena. That's where it didn't work for
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 9: Austin theory when they beat when he beat John Cena,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 9: because they were going over a top guy, but they
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 9: were not themselves ready to be that next top guy.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 9: So that's why the rub that should have come from
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 9: them beating him didn't really manifest because they weren't ready
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 9: to take that big of a step yet, whereas Gunter
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 9: is so yeah, you nailed it right on the head,
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 9: Doyle that that's the exact reason why it makes sense
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 9: for Gunter to be in this position.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 5: Now, whether he wins or not. TBD, And yeah, it
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 5: could go.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 7: I thought it was.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 11: I thought it was a FOURGNE conclusion the scene of
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 11: would lose. But I've also come around on that a
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 11: little bit. I'm so leaning in towards Gunter wins, and
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 11: I'm laying in towards he caused him to pass out
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 11: rather than actually submit or whatever.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 7: But I don't think seeing a winning is totally off
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 7: the table.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 9: Either, right right, Definitely that because I mean, obviously the
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 9: old classic wrestling adage is that you go out on
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 9: your back and that's your way of you know, paying
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 9: it forward, of putting over the next generation. So and
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 9: John Cena being a student of wrestling, I can see
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 9: him very much being that. And honestly, I can see
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 9: him making that decision himself. Even if they even if
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 9: somebody tried to, even if say they were like triplating
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 9: them in their booking was like we're gonna have you win.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 9: I can see he's seeing a shutting that down, saying no,
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 9: I'm losing this match, but we have been no I'm
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 9: losing this match.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 14: It might be like a reverse, it might be a
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 14: reverse true job or like come this purposely trying so
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 14: I put it put on the match like scene, it's
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 14: like that, see it got this trying to lose against
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 14: seeing his wishnesses.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 9: I like the kind of money, yeah, I mean, and
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 9: it Seena losing is consistent with what he's been saying
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 9: about this a whole farewell in this this final match
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 9: is that it's about the next people He just wants
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 9: to go there, have his match and pass it on
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 9: to the next guys. You know, so him winning this
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 9: match doesn't really do anything for anyone. Him winning this
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 9: match doesn't give back to the business in any way,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 9: shape or form. But him losing to Gunter and giving
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 9: Gunter that accolade, that's his final gift back. That's in
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 9: giving back. And then obviously Gunter can have his celebration
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 9: or whatever and walk off, and then the show closes
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 9: out with you know, everyone given their final farewell to
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 9: John Cena.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 11: Oh yeah, I could see a situation similar firm way
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 11: after a Flair retired and they did like.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 14: The whole uh everybody came to the ring, you know,
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 14: an undertaker came out and did a little weird bow
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 14: saying I.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 7: Could see something like that happening here at that part.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 9: Has Yeah, I think that's more important than who wins
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 9: the match is Yeah, I agree. Is you know the
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 9: farewell afterwards go ahead, go ahead, Okay, there you go.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 9: I was gonna say, it doesn't need to be like
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 9: what Sena has been doing, where he just walks off,
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 9: says something to this camera, then goes behind the curtain
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 9: like this is it this is the final farewell. You
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 9: need to give it to the fans and let them
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 9: right like, let them say goodbye, Let the guys in
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 9: the back, let the man and the woman in the
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 9: back come out there, and just it goes out with
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 9: everybody in the ring saying their farewells to John. And
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 9: you know, let people make the prop bets on who's
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 9: gonna make scene a cry.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 6: Man.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna say I really like the idea. I think
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 7: I said it before, but I like the idea.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 11: Of guns retiring Goldberg and then seen and going going
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 11: and retirements aj styles next year and kind of incorporating,
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 11: like you know, I retire people and who.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 6: I think it might be a fun evolution of the
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 6: Guns charactect.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, I like, yeah, yeah, let's talk about Lesner
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: retiring quite soon as well. I heard that.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 9: Only because once again that John Cena said something he
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 9: he didn't.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 5: He didn't spoil anything.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 9: But again in the same interview that he did with
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 9: Chris van Vleet, he mentioned I don't remember exactly what
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 9: he said, but something to the effect of when he
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 9: was talking about his retirement, he mentioned Lesner in Minnesota,
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 9: and then obviously everybody immediately jumped to, Oh, SummerSlam is
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 9: in Minnesota next summer, we see Rock Lesner have a
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 9: retirement match there.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 5: I think I don't know if I'd have to go
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 5: back and listen to the clips.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 9: I'm trying to remember if Sena mentioned it as something
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 9: that Lesner has said to him, or if he was
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 9: just openly kind of like speculating on his own. I
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 9: think he says something to the effect of or at
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 9: least it came off as if it was something that
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 9: Lesner said to him.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 5: And he kind of just sort of let it slip out.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 9: So it's possible again obviously TVD, but it is possible
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 9: that we could be seeing a Brock Lesner retirement match
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 9: at SummerSlam next summer in Minnesota. But I think maybe
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 9: Lesner himself has said that, you know, he's he's he's
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 9: thinking about retirement, or he's on his way out, or
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 9: he's done, he doesn't want to continue much further.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he's fairly in anyway. Right.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 9: Part time is fucking now how many how many more
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 9: part time dates? You're gonna squeeze part time?
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 3: Part time?
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 9: Yeah, he's at that undertaker status now, I'm a pop
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 9: up once or twice a year.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Tyler, let's get a let's get your insight on
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: some of this. What's up?
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 6: Where do we begin? Well, for one, dislike the fact
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 6: that it's gun There. I understand what Doyle Andre are
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 6: saying and and how maybe gun There in their mind
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 6: is more polished and ready to move on. I want
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 6: to take a nap every time I see a gun
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 6: through match. Uh yeah, every time, I like on everything.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 6: I love every time that guy comes out instance Newsfest.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 6: For me, there's just no interest in watching gun there,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 6: So I can understand that. Like so, I would have
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 6: much preferred seeing Carmelo Hayes or anybody else.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 7: I think.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 6: I think Carmelo Hayes will would sell more than Gunther,
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 6: And I think he's some promo work, promo work, you know,
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 6: some mic work. But I think he'd be a heck
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 6: of a lot of draw, the heck of a lot
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 6: better of a draw. And I think he's closer to
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 6: being ready than gun There m h if in the
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 6: sense of offense of in ring town. He's more interesting
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 6: to watch in the ring. Maybe he's not as polished
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 6: on the mic as gun Thro is, but I think,
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 6: you know, for that big push for for Hayes. It
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 6: would have been something to light a fire under his
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 6: as Okay here.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: No h.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 6: And it sucks to know that it's gun through because
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 6: I want to say, eight times out of ten, the
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 6: way I see this playing out in my mind is
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 6: that guntherer wins it, you know, And that's just kind
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 6: of match that that they put on for him, except
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 6: for that whole you know, debacle where he had the
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 6: championship and he lost it, then he won it again,
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 6: and he lost it again, you know, which I understand
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 6: that losing it again he legitimately got injured, right.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 7: But uh.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I just I know he's a dominant guy and Nope,
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 6: don't probably give him the W Johnson. I think Johnson
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 6: goes out with the W. I'm sticking with it all right, man,
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 6: throwing that.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 9: Interesting to say the least, I kind of get. I
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 9: get what you're saying. As far as you know, guns
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 9: are being somewhat boring in the ring.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 5: I will I will concede that.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 9: His style doesn't necessarily create for a whole lot of excitement.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 9: Is very much is reliance on who his opponent, and
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 9: it is because his style itself is very straightforward. It's
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 9: kind of a ground and pound brutality, beat him up,
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 9: you know, slap your freaking heart out, your back through
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 9: your chest type style, which it really yet doesn't create
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 9: for a whole lot of you know, excitement. So a
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 9: lot of his a lot of interest does depend on
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 9: either the story that's told in the ring with his
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 9: opponent or the abilities of his.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 5: In ring opponents. So I do get it from that standpoint.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 9: And as far as I think Gunter's character is way
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 9: more developed than Carmelo's, Like Carmelo on the roster right
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 9: now really doesn't have much of a character. It's kind
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 9: of just he's just the cocky, arrogant young guy. But
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 9: other than that, Carmelo really hasn't developed his character much further, whereas.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 5: Gunter.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 9: To me, I think Gunter's character was much to me,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 9: was more interesting when he was the IC champion and
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 9: he was just like, I'm this wrestling machine, and he
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 9: kind of respected his opponents but at the same time
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 9: acknowledged I'm gonna beat the shit out of you, like
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 9: I acknowledge you as a challenger.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 5: I welcome your challenge, but I'm also gonna kick your
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 5: fucking ass.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 9: Yeah, to me, since Gunter kind of introduced the level
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 9: of cockiness or arrogance to him after becoming champion. To me,
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 9: that made him a little bit less interesting because it
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 9: just made him kind of more like everybody else. So
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 9: that's just my take on his character evolution. But obviously
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 9: there's still much more. You know, this, this isn't This
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 9: isn't the finished product of Gunter. So I'm sure his
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 9: character will you need to evolve more over time. Even
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 9: if I think right now he's not as interesting as
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 9: he was in the past.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 7: They get uh Dunter not being everybody's cup of tea.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, I've been here since Walter so nxt uk
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: so I'm I've been always on the Walter Gunter boat.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: But you know, everybody has their favorite type of tea.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: Mine happens to be Gunter. So well, I mean, Tyler,
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: I when when you come over, see if you stay awake?
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 7: What was that?
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: I said, Tyler, when you come over, we'll see if
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: you stay awake during that Gunther match.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah, oh my goodness, I'll bring I'll bring the twenty
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 6: four hours Red bullcan with me.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: God, John is the last metch Just just.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 6: If anybody else saw this, but I just read I
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 6: don't know how true is or not. This is actually
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 6: the opening match for the night. I don't know if
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 6: that was noted or not, but I just.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 5: I'll believe. I still have my belts ahead.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 11: Yeah, Like I said, the only way I could see
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 11: that happening is if it if it leads to something else,
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 11: agains the show somehow, like maybe they really did work
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 11: out a deal with Edge and you know, he's like,
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 11: I can't let that. I can't let your career un
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 11: like that or something, you know. To bring it back
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 11: to the it has to has to end the show.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 6: It can't.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 7: I just I don't see how.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 11: Open the show and then be anything left after you
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 11: love it's all the air and all the oxygen and
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 11: the arena.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 7: You know, it just doesn't. It doesn't seem like that
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 7: would work out.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 5: It's way.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought that's what you guys are talking about.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 6: My headphone, I'm cutting in and out. I apologize or
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 6: bring that up again.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 5: Oh no, you're good.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 7: I don't. I couldn't find records from like the eighties
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 7: or whatever, but so I only can go off twenty
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 7: twenty five.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 11: But I sat down today and figured out how many
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 11: Dunkin Donuts are between where I grew up and.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 7: Where a senior grew up, and it's ten ten dunkin
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 7: donuts away.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: Ah, you heard it here first people.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 6: That's right, kids breaking news, don't you know.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 7: And I grew up ten dunkin donuts away from each other.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 6: Vacan A, speaking of when.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 11: They had the final Boston Garden episode for Sina and
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 11: Triple H was there. I remember saying something that discord
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 11: about how like Triple H is from twenty five minutes
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 11: away from the Boston Garden and there's absolutely no connection
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 11: whatsoever with him and Boston.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 7: I think he's a sports fan, but that's how they're
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 7: here nor there.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 11: Yeah, and they and the Sina had you know, they've
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 11: been doing those little interview clips with Sina on the Shadows,
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 11: which has been pretty good actually, But one of them,
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 11: he said something about how.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 14: Like the the school the Triple Hs learned the wrestle
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 14: at was twenty minutes away from where he.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 7: Grew up and he had no idea, and I just
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 7: thought that was funny.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 11: I was like, oh, it's funny because all these guys
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 11: are right basically next to each other, you know.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 5: And I was right in the in the middle of them.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 6: But for wrestling, wasn't it?
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 5: It was?
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: It was?
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 11: You know another thing, speaking of John Cena, we have
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 11: been talking about him, haven't we. You know one thing
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 11: that will always, always, eternally drove me crazy is I've
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 11: seen this man on TV in a Jets jersey, in
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 11: a Montreal Canadians jersey, in a Lakers jersey, in a
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 11: fucking Yankees jersey. Well yeah, but of course, well like
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 11: well my point is, like then that's like shut down,
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 11: gone girl for a week.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 7: Because he refused to wear a Yankees hat.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 11: But you got Sena out there wearing wearing Yankee stuff
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 11: and Lakers stuff and Jets stuff.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 6: It's really he really ought.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 7: To be ashamed of himself. Yeah, so all those, all
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 7: those make a wish kids fuck him. He's wearing Yankee
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 7: sit on TV.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 5: I can't have it. He had to put his fandom
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 5: to the side, right.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 7: He's out of the chatter head tribe.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 6: I should not have found out he did apologis in
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 6: the news.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: I'll bring up that John Cena signed a five year
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: contract with w W as a Legends contract ambassador contract.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: But I do have audio.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 7: Do we think he do?
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 11: We think he immediately goes in the Hall of Fame
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 11: next or this coming fast?
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so, but I heard Yeah, I got
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: an audio clip of him announcing it yesterday. Uh, here
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: it is. We'll see if I can pull it up here.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna leave.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 7: I'm not leaving.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 5: I'm not fucking leaving.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 3: The show goes on.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 11: This is my home.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 15: They're gonna need a fucking wrecking ball to take me
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 15: out of here.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 7: More like I think he's gonna he'll he'll be back
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 7: on TV, but I don't think he'll. I don't think
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 7: he'll live for wrestle again.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 11: No, he's not gonna He's not gonna retire one hundred
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 11: and seven times like Funk did.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 7: But I think he really will. I think he really
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 7: will be done.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 5: But you know what, Doyle, we we said that this
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 5: was the retirement of his in ring career, not.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 7: Yeah. I mean now that before you play that. Now
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 7: that I said it, I think the son is going
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 7: to end with Oh, John b Win, You're going to
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 7: be in the Hall of Fame in fame again.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 9: I could see them doing that, them announcing like as
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 9: he's going out and you're the thing. Yeah, that one
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 9: more thing type thing because as of right now they
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 9: don't have a headliner. Yeah, yeah, they announce stephan but
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 9: I don't think anybody never announced people.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 7: They can never announced hall of famers early.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Stephanie.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 6: That what that was weird just like out of the
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 6: blue for that pl E to just have underhankers sitting
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 6: there for cutting it up and then oh, by the way,
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 6: like has it made a dozen other p L appearances
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 6: And that just could have happened that well closer to
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 6: WrestleMania instead of all the way back then.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 5: And I think since that was that Russell Baluza though,
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 5: wasn't it?
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 7: Yes, something like that.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 5: That's why they do something, Yeah, something that little bullshit show.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, now that you're saying it makes sense all.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 7: The I wonder who's going to be a ringside for Saturday.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 7: That might be interesting?
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 12: Might it might be we might we get angle, you know,
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 12: certainly I would think JBL probably uh, some of those
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 12: types of now of course, of.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 11: Course, yeah, this kind of man has been uh rumored
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 11: to be in attendance.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 7: Uh, and so it's the third other w w E
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 7: Hall of Famer.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 5: Really interesting thing who's going to be there that can't
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 5: be shown on camp Bro.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 9: Because I can see a lot of the wrestling stars
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 9: coming out to be there for it, but only so
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 9: many that WW can actually show on camera.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 6: The people that, like three days later from behind the scenes.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 9: Yeah, the ones that will leak online and like photos
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 9: and stuff like like we didn't obviously they didn't show it.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 9: But it turns out I think Mercedes Mona was a Survivor.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 7: Series, right, I saw the same information. Yeah.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 9: I saw somebody's that posted a picture that like she
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 9: was there, but just up in the crowd, like up
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 9: in a suite or something like that.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it was like sunglasses, right, Yeah, I found the same.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: Gentlemen.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 5: I mean, I can absolutely see Adam being there.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I have the next bracket. I'd like to, uh, well,
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: the next thing in our bracket. I'd like to bring
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: up the next match, if that uh tickles your fancy.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: All right, guys, we have the phenomenal A J Styles
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: versus Sean Michaels in his prime. Now we have that
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: match versus Stone Steve Austin versus C. M. Punk. These
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: are guys in their prime prime. It's this fantasy match
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: we cannot have. This is a fantasy match. A lot
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: of us wanted to see. So, with that said, who
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: wants to go first? No, don't all rush at once.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: You gotta think about this.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 9: I want to figure out how what bakes Austin versus
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 9: Punk a dream match?
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: You don't.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 9: I get that there are two guys who never wrestled
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 9: each other, but I don't know that combination doesn't strike
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 9: me as dreammatch status.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: You don't think so, you don't think they could drop
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: a good storyline.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 7: Charatures have certain similarities. I suppose they're both, you know,
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 7: anti authority kind of people. I suppose.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 9: I mean that that's probably about the the gist of it,
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 9: if you go with you know, Paul, I mean Punk
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 9: being anti authority towards you know, Triple h in them
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 9: and then obviously what Stone Cold did with Fence.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 6: Versus Beer Drinker.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, good point. Yeah, there's that.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 11: I mean, that's always Park's angle when he's a heel
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 11: and I'm better than you because I don't know, I
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 11: don't drink her good drug.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 9: The first option was what you said, The first option
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 9: was aj Styles versus Sean.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I'm going with.
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  Speaker 9: That would be absolutely that would still be by far
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 9: the better match and storyline. What Yeah, Bell to Bell
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  Speaker 9: that matches would just cook, that.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 5: That would cook.
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  Speaker 9: And the thing is about it is you could you
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 9: could go with two different versions of both characters and
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 9: still get a great match. You could go with you
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 9: could go first run Sean versus t N A A
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  Speaker 9: J styles and have a classic, or you could go
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 9: second run Sewan versus w W AJ styles.
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  Speaker 7: And I was gonna have Seana injury.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, either one, either one of those pairings is a
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 5: classic match.
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  Speaker 1: I know, I know, M Tyler, come on, man, nothing, I.
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  Speaker 6: Mean yeah, I know, I will h once again fight
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  Speaker 6: the flow of things. And I'm gonna have to say
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 6: stone cold and sampunk uh Aj is cool. I like
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 6: AJ like.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 7: I believe he's you.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 6: Know, beginning of his WW preyer now and I've seen
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 6: some of his TNA work. Phenomenal wrestler Sean. And the
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 6: only time time I was really ever interested in Sean.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 7: Was when he was in d X.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 6: You know, when when him and Triple As we running
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 6: around causing havoc. It's been awesome, laugh my ass off.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 6: If they had great matches, like obviously they were tired.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 6: But him standalone, I couldn't really get into him, you
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 6: know what I mean, and I understand he's like one
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 6: of the do I say, greatest of all times? Do
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 6: I dare say that? So apologize? Probably the noise there's
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 6: an accident right off front of my building. But Triple H,
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 6: you know, the beginning of the attitude Dude era and
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 6: the revival of the WWE happens with I'm sorry, not
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 6: Triple H. Stone Cold and see him Punk in his
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 6: own way tried doing the same thing, uh, and it
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 6: all be a completely different way. I think he tried
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 6: to deliver a new life in a different way, in
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 6: his own style, and maybe it didn't work out for
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 6: him the same way that it did for Stone Cold.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 6: But I believe they are both on an evening playing
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 6: field when it comes to technicality in the ring. You know,
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 6: they're not high flyers, you know, they're not like, yeah,
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 6: they're not like high flyers. They're not like, you know,
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 6: jumping off the ropes and you know all that stuff.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 6: So you're gonna get more just like on the Matt technicality,
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 6: you know. Ah, And I just think it would be
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 6: a whole lot more interesting of a match.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 11: I know.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 6: I'm sticking with it though, Sampunk stone Cold all right, man, Well, I.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: Mean majority votes. I think we're we're gonna be moving
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: forward here with HBK versus Sean Michaels. It's interesting, I know,
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: sad face. What was interesting, Tyler is we will revisiting
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: for what it's.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 7: Worth, for what it's worth. If it had been any
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 7: other brawler versus Stone Called, I probably would have taken
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 7: that match.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 5: But I just I don't give a.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 6: Shit about Phil. I really don't.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 7: I prefer the brawling kind of style. So if I'm
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 7: a stone Call versus some.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 11: Other kind of brawler type of character or rest of
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 11: her rather, I would take that over.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 7: The high Flyers.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 5: But I don't.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 7: I don't care about so anyway.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: Sorry, no, no, no, no, no, I get it. I
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: get it. Uh, I want to I want to bring up. Oh, guys,
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: we sold two shirts from our store the other day.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: One of them I bought because I was like, we
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: got the new four new logos up at lower prices.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I was definitely down to buy a done
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: by a shirt. So I should be here so then
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: next week or so. And I don't know if I
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: can see the email of whoever bought the other shirt.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: Sometimes I can, depending on I can't see I think
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: Lena bought a T shirt listener of the show. It's awesome,
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah. So yeah, if you're looking for, you know,
• 1:41:12
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• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: to Pro Wrestling Teas dot com. And we have four
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: new ones up. We we only have to sell like
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: fifteen more or something like that now and then we're
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: gonna get unlimited designs and we're no longer a handcuffed
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: by the four designs. We have so many more I
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: want to put up there. I may rotate them out
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: every month if I can, until we get the the
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: eighteen more sold. But I I splurged, man, I got
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: the I got the V neck with the extra soft
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: you know material. So I spent the extra like the
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: extra like five bucks or something whatever it was, because
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: I was like, hell.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah is an option, always take it?
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And I want a hoodie, man, And when
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: when we get to that point, when we get to
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: hoodies and hats and whatnot? Oo baby living it up hmm.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: I'm also working on stickers because I want to be
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: able to just put our logo in the QR code
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: on a sticker and hand them out at wrestling events.
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: I think that'd be nice, So slapping them on the
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: bathroom walls, I don't know whatever. Once they're out of
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: my hands, they're out of my control. So once I
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: hand them out, uh yeah, yeah, yeah true. I want
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: to get myself a DX shirt A version and an
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: nWo version of our PCW shirts. I want to pick
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: myself up in one of each. H hell yeah, uh
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: you know what do you guys? Do you guys want
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: to add anything else? I mean, this is a short episode,
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: but a short pl e.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 9: I mean if the only other thing that's really happened
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 9: of I'll say in wrestling of interests is the seminar
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 9: that Bailey had what was it called load Star or
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 9: something like that she had where she invited out where
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 9: she invited out a bunch of women's wrestlers from smaller
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 9: territories in Andy scene and they got to work with
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 9: stars and stuff like. I just want to give her
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 9: props for that because that is beyond phenomenal. And she
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 9: did it on her dime.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 7: And he flew everybody stay yeah yeah, and you.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 9: Know, and shout out to everybody else who helped her out,
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 9: like Tyson Kiddam, you know his gym or whatever that
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 9: he or his wrestling school, they were able to use that.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 9: And it seems like, yeah, a bunch of a bunch
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 9: of women, a bunch of folks from w WE helped
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 9: her out. Like some of the referees were there helping
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 9: to work the matches. I saw Bianca Rhea, Charlotte who else,
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 9: a bunch of other women that were there as well
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 9: as like you said, John Cena, who was there for
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 9: a whole eight hours watching every match gave them feedback.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 9: So I mean, that's just beyond incredible for her to
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 9: do that for the you know, the women on the
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 9: independency and helping them, you know, learn and advancing their
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 9: careers and stuff like that.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 5: Man, Bailey's got to be protected costs.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 7: I could see her.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 11: Doing something more when she's when she's finally done wrestler,
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 11: you know, Like I can see her shut her own
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 11: kind of promotion me or or something, or being a
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 11: head head writer somewhere or a big you know, a
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 11: big time member of the creative team or something.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 7: So I think she I think she has the you
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 7: know they always said like.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 11: Scott Hall and Jake Roberts especially had great minds for wrestling,
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 11: but they were fucking complete methods, you might you might
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 11: actually have the great mind without being a complete fucking
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 11: train rerecord.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 7: It would be so it would be great if you
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 7: could stick around in the business once.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 6: He's done actively in the ring, because I think she uh,
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 6: you know, and she's a lifelong fan. I think.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 11: I think that would be good for us as fans,
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 11: and maybe good for her and good for other women's
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 11: wrestlers everywhere.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I think Bailey is one of those who will
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 9: definitely be a lifer in the professional wrestling business, whether
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 9: it's with or without WWE. I think ww we'd be
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 9: foolish to let her get away from them whenever she
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 9: does hang it up. You know, they'd be wise to
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 9: try to keep her in the company as much as
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 9: they can, whether it's like, oh, you're done, You're done wrestling,
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 9: all right, Well, uh, you want to be a writer
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 9: or you know, a head writer, or you know, a
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 9: head producer or something like. If I was w W,
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 9: I'd be doing everything I can to keep her in
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 9: the company, because.
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 11: Yeah, but I also can see her being like it's
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 11: let's say she has two years left on whatever her
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 11: contract is right now, I don't know what it is.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 11: Let's just pretend I could see her at the end
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 11: of that being like, you know what, I want to
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 11: go wrestle in Japan and I don't.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 14: Care how much less of a pay cut I have
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 14: to take or whatever. I'm sure she's got plenty of money.
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 11: Yes, I could see her going fuck it, I'm just
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 11: sure you do that for two years because I want
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 11: to when I think of you.
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 9: Know, yeah, I'm just speaking from w w we's perspective.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 9: If I'm w I'm doing everything I can to keep.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 9: I'm doing everything to keep her in the company in
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 9: some capacity, even if even if it's you know, not
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 9: if her in ring career ends, but or she doesn't
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 9: want to wrestle with us anymore. Like what they're doing
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 9: with with like what they've given the Talia. Now obviously
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 9: she's not doing much in ring w w WE Wrestling,
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 9: but they're allowing her to perform and other companies like, hey,
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 9: if that, if I got to let you do that
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 9: to keep you here within the company.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 5: Okay, you want to go to New Japan.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 9: Cool, cool, cool, Just you know, stay within the fold
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 9: as long as you ain't anything to keep her, you know,
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 9: if I'm w w anything to keep her away from
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 9: aw Yeah.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 7: Well that's gonna be a big.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 14: It's gonna be a big shiring call when when I, uh,
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 14: she's ever a free agent, because you know, Mercedes is
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 14: in her ear m.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 9: Yep, And that's assuming that that's the sum Never say
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 9: these you know, it's still there whenever Bailey's career winds down,
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 9: because her future is obviously because yeah, she either way,
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 9: Bailey is a treasure to the wrestling business, to the
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 9: wrestling industry period. So whatever she does, she's clearly going
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 9: to be an asset and going to be contributing positively
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 9: in some way, shape or form to the wrestling long
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 9: after her in ring career is over.
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 6: You got anything you want to plug, buddy, I have
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 6: nothing to plug. I am plugglish, unfortunately, but I do
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 6: want to thank you all for inviting me on. I
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 6: you know, I wish I could have had more to
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 6: say about some things. I feel like I was ill
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 6: prepared for tonight, but I'm still I'm glad that I was.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 6: I had a chance to be here, and yeah, thank you,
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 6: ah man ill prepared.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 9: I don't apologize for nothing. Man, Your two cents are
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 9: just as valuable as everybody else is two cents.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: Sure, we're no more important than anybody else. So but yeah, man,
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: that's all I that's all I got for this week.
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, we're just doing these back to back episodes.
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: It just seems like w W gives us no fucking
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: chill and like it's coming. Guys, the Slammy Awards, they're coming.
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: They're always creeping up on us. We always get them
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: after that. We do them after the holidays because it's
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: just it's less chaotic that way. To the Slammy Awards.
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: Oh God, I love it.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 5: Speaking of which, I had an idea for two different,
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 5: two new awards.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: Right now, I'm all ears.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 9: I had it was two of them that popped in
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 9: my head, but I can only think of one right now,
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 9: and one of them I would call, in the spirit
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 9: of John Cena's retirement.
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 5: I would call it the My Time Is Now Award, and.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 9: That would be the superstar that we think is going
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 9: to be the big breakout star in the following year. Okay,
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 9: And whenever I think of the other one, I'll I'll
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 9: mintioned it in the discord.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 5: Whenever I remember it, ship like that, I'll have.
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: To add that on. But hey, guys, that's all I got.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's right. Yeah, let's play ourselves. Let's get
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: the hell out of here, fellas. What am I going
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: to play ourselves in?
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 6: Oh?
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: I got, I got a sound bite.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 5: I don't even know if that's PG.
• 1:52:03
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• 1:54:08
  Speaker 18: The fact that day in and day out for almost
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 18: sixty years, I improved everybody in the world, that I
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 18: am the best on this microphone and in that break,
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 18: even in commentary, nobody can touch me.
• 1:54:21
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• 1:54:29
  Speaker 4: and we watched the stuff your.
• 1:54:35
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• 1:54:38
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