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How Communists Are Weaponizing Christians (& Conservatives)—Trevor Loudon Interview · Man in America Podcast

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to man in America. It is so good to be back. From pro choice to pride flags, it's easy to see how liberal Christians have been influenced by woke ideology, which finds its roots in cultural Marxism. But what if conservative Christians are also being preyed upon by global communists in a way that's far more deceptive and equally sinister, and perhaps we don't even realize it. Joining me today is author and filmmaker Trevor Loudon and an expert on communism to help us understand the cunning manipulation of American Christians, both left and right.
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• 3:54
  Alright, folks. Perhaps you have you have heard the famous quote from the late Andrew Breitbart who said that politics is downstream from culture. Well, I was watching Trevor Loudon on his show Counterpunch on Epoch TV lately, and he was talking about how, well, culture is downstream from religion. And if our culture and our politics are both rotten almost to the core, we have to say, what does it say about our religion? So Trevor recently released a documentary called enemies within the church.
• 4:28
  And before I have him on, I'm gonna show you the trailer for this because this really helps frame not only what's happening in America, but also who Trevor is. And this man brings a vast, vast, vast knowledge of communism and its infiltration into our country and what their current goals are, what their long term goals are, how long they've been at this. So let's go ahead and start. I'm gonna pull up the trailer for enemies at the enemies within the church, and we'll start playing this, and I'll bring Trevor on right after. What happened to the church, to the living, powerful, transformative, nation shaking Christianity?
• 5:07
  Speaker 2: What they're trying to do is completely demolish Western civilization and then to rebuild it in a just society.
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  Speaker 3: How do you break down American Christianity?
• 5:24
  Speaker 4: I think the problem today in our culture is many of our words have been co opted and stolen and dumbed down
• 5:34
  Speaker 3: and reversed. Social justice is sold as something that it isn't. Critical race theory is sold as something that it isn't.
• 5:43
  Speaker 4: Whiteness has caused blindness of heart. Whiteness has caused blindness of heart. When you preach victimization, it always leads to vengeance and vice. Us against them, me against you. I want my pound of flesh.
• 5:58
  Speaker 3: American churches today are where the universities were ten years ago. Pretty heavily Marxist. They're not quite there yet, but they're well on the way. Many of the seminaries and bible colleges are definitely already there.
• 6:15
  Speaker 4: That message that they're going out and taking the world is not you need to repent of your sin, receive Christ. Instead, the message that you actually have is they are under the weight of racism or sexism or homophobia, and then we need to unify them together.
• 6:32
  Speaker 5: I'm gay. I'm 29. I'm a youth pastor in New Jersey. I'm straight, and I'm also a youth pastor in New Jersey.
• 6:40
  Speaker 6: We're planning on sharing life together for the rest of our lives, which we're not totally sure what that looks like. Obviously, Nick is straight, and he does plan on getting married. When he has a wife one day, she'll make those decisions with us.
• 6:52
  Speaker 4: The future damage of what we're doing now is just gonna be enormous. The entire fabric of family, personal wealth, private property,
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  Speaker 3: all those things are out
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  Speaker 4: the door, and everything is the state. They believe the state is God.
• 7:06
  Speaker 2: They don't define justice the same way as the scriptures. Oh, no. It's gonna be an equality alright, And it's going to be a totalitarian Marxist justice.
• 7:21
  Speaker 1: Alright, folks, that is an incredible documentary that you can check out at enemieswithinthechurch.com. So without further ado, let me go ahead and bring on my guest today, Mr. Trevor Loudon. Trevor, thank you so very much for joining me today.
• 7:37
  Speaker 3: It's a pleasure. Thanks for having me on, sir.
• 7:40
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. So can you just start for the guests that are not familiar with you or your your books or your films and give us just a quick background of who you are and what you're doing right now?
• 7:52
  Speaker 3: Okay. Some of you may have guessed through my accent, I'm originally from New Zealand, but I live in The United States now. My my specialty is communism Marxism. For for nearly forty years now, I've been studying it in all its its iterations, its effect on mainstream society, its COVID influence on government, its infiltration of universities, unions, Hollywood, etcetera, and now the churches. So that that's my claim to fame.
• 8:22
  I'm I'm I study Marxism. I pick it apart, and I I can tell you a lot about it.
• 8:29
  Speaker 1: Well, Grant, I think that there's probably no more important subject for the American people to be really learning about right now. Because so many of the changes that we've seen happen in our country might seem coincidental or because our morals have slowly changed. But, you know, from my own research, almost everything that we're seeing goes back into communism and a subversion of our country and taking control of our culture, our politics, and our religion.
• 8:58
  Speaker 3: Well, that's a great point because, you know, Americans look around. They they're pretty concerned about what's happening. They they see the open border. They see the destruction of the military. They see Russia and China exerting themselves in the world stage.
• 9:11
  They see the radical LGBTQ movement twisting their kids' minds. They see political correctness in the universities. They see the shutdown of the energy industry. They see massive government overreach, and they don't connect the dots. They see Black Lives Matter.
• 9:30
  All of these are Marxist phenomenon. All of these are manifestations of the communist movement, and all of them are designed to bring America to its knees in one way or another. The ultimate goal of the world communist movement, and it is a world movement, is to destroy The United States Of America because a free constitutional and Christian America is the number one impediment to world socialism.
• 9:57
  Speaker 1: You know, in your documentary, you shared a quote from a paper that was published by the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences. And this was such an eye opening thing for me because we know that, you know, China, the Chinese Communist Party has been a long term enemy of freedom in America. But this was a study that came out. I'm just gonna read the audience's quote because this was mind boggling to me. They say because so they were studying America to see where America got its strength from.
• 10:25
  Because for us, you know, it's it's Sun's art of war. Right? You know your enemy and know yourself. Like, they have to know the strength. What what is it that makes America so strong?
• 10:34
  And so here's what they came out with in their paper said one of the things we were asked to look into was what accounted for the success. In fact, the preeminence of the West all over the world. We studied everything we could from the historical, political, economic and cultural perspective. In the past twenty years, we have realized that the heart of your culture is religion, Christianity, that they basically through their research, they discovered that what gave America its strength was actually our Judeo Christian values and the church and the role that's played in our society. So is this perhaps tied to why we're now seeing rainbow flags flying outside of churches?
• 11:15
  We're seeing, you know, churches openly accepting transgenderism, or how do we make sense of this phenomenon we're seeing in churches across America?
• 11:27
  Speaker 3: Well, you're tied and proved well because, look, it's not just the Judeo Christian heritage. America was the first country in world history that that was founded on the principle that man's rights come from God, not the government. You don't have constitutional rights. You have God given rights protected by a constitution. So therefore, if you have a right to free speech, the right to keep and bear arms, the right to be free from unfair searches and seizures.
• 12:00
  If you have all of these things, you're a free person. You can live freely. You can plan. You can build things. You have confidence in the future.
• 12:09
  You can build great universities and great churches and great schools and great businesses and a great military. But if your rights from God are taken away by the state, all of those things start to go away. Your education starts to collapse, Your military collapses. Your foundations, your political foundations collapses. Your culture collapse, and then you are ripe to be defeated by your enemies.
• 12:39
  So the communists decided very early on, right back in the 1920s, the first communist party front in America was before there was a communist party. It was when the communists would just lose amalgamations. It was the Methodist Federation for Social Action set up in nineteen o seven by Harry Ward of Union Theological Seminary, a Marxist communist.
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: So the first communist organization set up in America was actually a church related organization. It wasn't a
• 13:11
  Speaker 3: The first front group. Because you had little groups of communists before the communist party was established in 1919. And the first front group where they could the front group is a group that's set up as a cover for what the communists are doing. Like the peace movement, Black Lives Matter. People say, Black Lives Matter is all about helping black people.
• 13:34
  No. It is a front for the communist movement to use race to divide America. The Methodist Federation for Social Action was a vehicle that they could bring socialist communist ideas into the churches, but because it's not the communist party, people don't understand what's happening. Black Lives Matter doesn't get up there and say, We're a communist organization. We work for China.
• 14:00
  We're here to destroy America. No, they say, We're here to help racial equality. We're to help black people achieve equality in America. A front group is an organization that says its goal is one thing, but it's covertly working for the communists for another purpose.
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: So this started in the early nineteen hundreds, which if you go back to even Marx's original works, it wasn't that he was an atheist. It was that he, at one point, was a Christian, and then he turned into what was probably more a Satanist, and he wanted to wage war on God. And there's all kinds of poetry and everything about he struck a deal with the devil. And so this hatred for God goes back to the core roots of communism. So are so you're telling me that they've been this infiltration of our church system started over a hundred years ago in America?
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Look. Look. Communism is ultimately satanic, ultimately. And wouldn't Satan want to be inside God's church?
• 15:03
  Would Satan want to use Christians for his purpose? Wouldn't that be the ultimate insult to God? And Satan is all about offending God, is he not? Defying God, attacking God, trying to overturn God, trying to dethrone God. So so it's it's logical.
• 15:20
  And and from a purely secular point of view, if you're part of the world communist movement and you understand the major impediment to total world communist control is The United States, and the backbone of America is the Christian church, wouldn't you want to get inside that church? Because you couldn't in those days, you couldn't take America from the outside, but America is free. You can work in their political system. You can work inside their churches with very little fear. You can promote your treasonous agenda.
• 15:54
  So the churches were target number one right from the start. In the 1920s, the Communist Party told its members, if you're brought up Baptist, go back to the Baptists. If you're brought up Catholic, go back to the Catholics. If you're brought up Jewish, go back to the synagogue. It didn't matter what religion you came from.
• 16:13
  They wanted to put you into those religions to use your influence to promote communism because communism in the churches and the religions, you had money, you have influence, and you have respectability, all three things that revolutionaries need to do what they need to do. Churches were the perfect cover.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: So what does this process look like? Because now, you know, as I mentioned in the introduction, if you look at what's being promoted, whether it's the churches or Hollywood or Disney for children, you can see there's a very Marxist ideology if you look beneath the surface of it. So obviously, they've gotten themselves inside, and they've gained a lot of control. But how they do that? Wouldn't the Christians want to protect their churches and say, you know, like communism's evil.
• 17:03
  You're not welcome here. Are they hiding behind the layers and layers of lies like everything else? I guess, like, what's that process looked like of them gaining so much control over the church?
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: Well, there was pushback against this. There was there was certainly not Cardinal Sheen and and the Catholics and Billy James Hargis and the Christian anti communist crusade and others. There's a lot of books written in the 1950s about the Marxist infiltration of churches, but they are diligent. They just keep on at it. So how it works is very simple.
• 17:36
  You get some communists to join the church, even as a pastor. There dozens of communist party members in churches today who are pastors, Christian academics running Bible colleges, party members. And so you get them in there, or you get them to say, you really start with the seminaries and Bible colleges. So you get a communist to get hired as a history professor. He becomes head of the department.
• 18:08
  He then fires every conservative he possibly can and promotes a whole bunch of his friends. He eventually gets control, they eventually get control of the senior reaches of the university and they just purge all the patriots and the conservatives and the Orthodox Christians and slowly replace them with Marxists and fellow travelers. They did that with the labor unions. They did that with Hollywood. They did that with the Democratic Party to some degree.
• 18:38
  They've done it with, you know, most universities around the country. So why couldn't they do it with the churches? Because the churches up Look, I had a good friend, Herb Rommerstein. He was a communist, a young communist, then he became a conservative, fought in the Korean War for America, then he became an investigator in the US Senate, their top investigator of American communism. He was there for years, for decades.
• 19:04
  He had an encyclopedic knowledge of communism in America. And he said to me, he said, Trevor, in the twenties, the thirties, forties, right into the fifties and sixties, the biggest suckers for communist party fronts, communist party causes, communist party petitions, communist party meetings were Protestant clergymen. They were in it to the limit. They were just sucked in all the time into these things. They were targeted.
• 19:34
  Many of them were party members, but many of them were just useful idiots, but they were told Jesus was a socialist. This is all about social justice. This is about equality. They weren't told this is communist, we wanna destroy America. They were told we need to change America in a more just and equitable direction.
• 19:56
  Jesus would approve of this. Jesus would like this. Like the pastors today are told Jesus is a socialist. Critical race theory. You know, white privilege is something that needs to be addressed in the churches.
• 20:09
  These are Marxist programs, but they are couched deliberately to appeal to Christians. They take sections out of the Bible, they take them out of context, and they're very sophisticated at this, you know, and they present Marxism with a Christian veneer. How many, and I know
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: this is probably a difficult thing to quantify, but you know, of the churches in America, how many do you think are influenced by Marxism? Like, it's how much control do the communists have over our church system? And I know that a lot of the people that are even watching the show, for instance, or go to church every Sunday, they're probably not communists. Right? But I think that there's a lot of that have been going to church, and they're influenced suddenly, just like a child going to school nowadays is not a communist, but they're being given these communist ideas, this communist worldview that makes them really a useful idiot and controlled whenever the time is right to overthrow the government or whatever their plan is, but how much control do they have in America?
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: Look. I would say, ultimately, I'd say probably 80% of the Bible colleges in the country are heavily Marxist infiltrated. I would say probably 70% of the churches to some degree or another, some of the mainstream denominations are completely dominated. Like, mainstream denominations, they affiliated with the National Council of Churches many years ago, which was affiliated with the World Council of Churches, which is run by the Soviet KGB. They used to call it the Communist Party of Prayer.
• 21:47
  Okay? But I would say 70% of the churches in this country are influenced by critical race theory, the concept of white privilege, social justice, the LGBTQ movement, this heavily infiltrated the churches now. The refugee resettlement programs that they're running, the desire to dissolve borders and welcome every illegal alien in the country, All of these are Marxist programs, but virtually all of them are to some degree or another in most churches across America now. The reason we made the movie is because my director, Judd Saw, he was going to Little Independent Baptist Church in Northeast Iowa, and they got a new pastor who was woke, and woke means Marxist, by the way. And he was preaching all this left wing stuff and Judd went to his elders who wanted to do nothing about it.
• 22:51
  But the final straw was when Black Lives Matter marched through town, Black Lives Matter is a Chinese communist operation. The past, they've made everybody buy pizzas and take them out and give them to the Black Lives Matter protesters. That was the final straw for Judd. He thought we better start investigating this. And I was very familiar with the Marxist infiltration of the Catholic church and the mainstream Protestant churches, but what shocked me making this movie is how deep they are now into the evangelicals and the Southern Baptists.
• 23:23
  Then the people who used to be very, very straight up Christian, very Bible believing, are now just falling over for this Marxist stuff.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: And this is, I think, the crux of the matter, especially for the audience that we're speaking to. Know, I go to the Clay Clark events, I speak there and do a lot of different events. And, you know, it's a very Christian audience, and they're much more of what you would think of the evangelical or the Baptists or, you know, they're much more traditional in their views. But the real question is, is that have how are these churches being infiltrated and the people that are going to these churches? How are they getting away?
• 24:01
  How are they getting away with it? Like, is it are they being more secretive with this process and and not necessarily coming out and you know, on day one hanging up a rainbow flag outside or something like that? Or how is it that because it's easy. It's like, it's a dangerous place, I think for really anybody to think that you are above the influence of your enemy. It's a very dangerous position.
• 24:25
  And I think that there are a lot of Christian conservatives that think that because they're kind of following along the right line that they're not susceptible to propagate communist propaganda or this kind of infiltration. So how is this working in those conservative churches?
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: Well, that's a very good point because see, when the communists first started infiltrating the Protestant churches in the twenties and the thirties, They would preach about 90% Marxism with about 10% Christianity on top, and it was too much for a lot of people. A lot of people either left, pulled out of churches altogether, or went into the evangelical movement. So now it's much more subtle. Now it's 90% Bible and 10% Marxism, but the impact is the same. So I'll give you a couple of examples.
• 25:12
  One of the main enablers of this in recent times, and I'm gonna mention some names here that people probably have their books on the bookshelf, like Tim Keller of the Gospel Coalition, regarded as a conservative Christian, runs a Methodist church, believe it is, my Presbyterian, Methodist, I think, in New York. And he set up the Gospel Coalition in 02/2005. And initially it had a few conservatives in its ranks like Vody, Barcom, and a couple of others, but they very soon left. And what they started to do through the Gospel Coalition was bring in social justice concepts, a lot about racism, Mark Diva, one of the top guys, and that promotes books written by actual Marxists about race. And they have got infiltrated into Campus Crusade for Christ, grew into InterVarsity, into most of the Bible colleges and theological seminaries around the country, and they have brought this stuff in the last twenty years full on.
• 26:23
  They were doing it for a long time before that, but subtly they'd bring it in. And I get stories like I was in Atlanta recently, and I was telling a lady about the movie at big conservative rally. And she said, well, my son my son used to go to the youth group at this Andy Stanley's church. And he come home and said, mom, I'm never going to that youth group again. They're telling me I'm a racist.
• 26:46
  They're telling me I'm not a good Christian because I'm a racist and that I don't support the LGBTQ. I'm a bad, bad Christian. So this kind of psychological pressure is rampant now in the theological seminaries. These young kids will go there as straight up Christian kids, and by the time they've done three or four years at seminary, they're doctrinally Marxists. They don't know they're Marxists, but they've accepted all the Marxist talking points, critical race theory, white privilege, which was invented by two Communist Party members, Noel Ignatian and Ted Allen.
• 27:28
  They invented the concept of white privilege, pushed it out into the Maoist movement, and now it's in churches all over the country, but pastors preach this stuff and have no idea what it is. See, this is the idea behind white privilege. The old traditional communism said that the workers would rise up and take away the wealth of the capitalist minority. Occupy Wall Street was along those lines. The 99% would take the wealth of the 1%, okay?
• 28:02
  But that doesn't work very well in America because class is not a big issue here. You can start out dirt poor and end up filthy rich in America pretty darn easily, or start out filthy rich and end up dirt poor too, but race is always with you. So if you want to divide America, if you want to create chaos and break down social cohesion and preparation for revolution, you're far better off working on racial division than class division. So the idea of white privilege is you are part of the white minority. You are oppressing the people of color.
• 28:44
  You are driving them down. The only way we can have a fair and just society is we take away the privilege of the white community, the white Christian capitalist patriarchy, and give the power to the peoples of color. It's the same Marxist argument applied to race rather than class, and the Baptists, the Southern Baptists, the most Bible believing Christian denomination in the country, have now adopted white privilege as one of their tools for dealing with racial issues in their church, pushed into them by Walter Strickland and other Marxists. Walter Strickland, who was a disciple of James Cohn, the Marxist who wrote the book The Black Church and Marxism, What Do They Have to Offer Each Other, who went to Cuba in 1984 with Jesse Jackson and Jeremiah Wright, Obama's pastor, to meet with Soviet church organizations and Cuban communist church organizations. Marxism is in the churches.
• 29:51
  People just don't understand what it is.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: And so being white is like being the modern day landowner in in, you know,
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: China or cultural revolution. Chinese Culture Revolution, you've seen the pictures of that have a big mass of people and that have somebody on a stage with a sign around their neck, capitalist rotor, and everybody would hurl abuse at them. And this was designed to raise the consciousness, the class consciousness of the people, because this man might've owned two pigs instead of one, or his father had a little fish stand at the market, or he had an acre of land instead of half an acre of land. So they were the demonized minority, and the idea was to stir the people up to take away their wealth and start a revolution. Well, now it is the white people, the people of privilege, and the only way you can get rid of your white guilt is to become an active anti racist, an active supporter of Black Lives Matter, an affirmative action.
• 30:55
  So it is pure Marxist brainwashing, just like they did in the Chinese Cultural Revolution, but now it's in American corporations, it's American universities, it's in the military, and it's rampant in the churches.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: So this is obviously a long term plan to subvert, infiltrate, and destroy America. What's the end goal of this? And right now, we're seeing China, you know, increasing its pressure on Taiwan, that we're seeing, Russia and China doing joint military operations, which they have been doing for quite some time. There's threat of potential nuclear war. I mean, I've got I have Jeff Nyquist coming on quite often as a as a guest.
• 31:41
  And he's talked a lot about the the clenched fist. Right? One clenched fist, the the Sino Soviet pact, the, you know, the feigned fall of communism and, you know, the Soviet Union. So, you know, what's the end goal of this? Is it this that they wanna make America less strong on the world stage, or do they want our land and our resources?
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: Well, they want the land they want to destroy America's constitutional system and occupy and control this this country. Two Chinese generals colonels actually wrote the book in 1999, believe, called Unrestricted Warfare, and they became generals after this. This is the Chinese military doctrine. The goal is to destroy The United States starting with unconventional methods, that's COVID, that's fentanyl, that's buying politicians, that's controlling Hollywood, that's buying farmland, that is sabotaging the military, that is stealing military technology, all of that to the point America is so weak, it can be destroyed in a kinetic war, and then it will be occupied by tens, hundreds of millions of Chinese citizens. They aim to replace the population of America with theirs, And logically, they need to because their environment is incredibly degraded, their food supply is massively under threat, and they know if they don't conquer America, they're gonna have an internal collapse.
• 33:16
  So they are using all of these things to weaken The United States, COVID, biological attack, then they manage the response to COVID. You'll find all the states that had the worst lockdowns were the states with the most Chinese influence because they used their subservient politicians and the labor unions they controlled to extend the lockdowns to the maximum to do massive economic damage to this country. Then they stole the election, and I'll say blatantly they did. And all of these things while killing American kids with fentanyl, while indoctrinating them and stealing their information through TikTok, while controlling big tech, the goal is to create maximum chaos and weakness in America so that when the war comes, China and Russia together can easily win it, and we will be slaves if we're still alive in our own country.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: It's a frightening prospect, certainly.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But look. You read their literature. I don't make this is what they say they intend to do, And we watch them. We watch Putin attack Ukraine.
• 34:29
  We watch we watch Iran in the Middle East. We watch North Korea doing its crazy stuff. We watch China threatening the South Pacific. And we think, no, they don't really mean it. No, no, they don't really intend to change the world balance of power.
• 34:45
  They don't really mean to destroy America. No, no. This was the same mentality the Jews had in prewar Germany. Now, Hitler doesn't really mean that. Now, he wouldn't really do that stuff.
• 34:57
  He wrote about it in Mein Kampf, but we can't believe that. We'll just ride this out. We'll be okay. Well, we won't be okay if we try and ride this out. We have to actively push back against this because the survival of this country hangs in the balance.
• 35:13
  And if this country goes down, you can forget any other country. I come from New Zealand, supposed to be one of the safest countries in the world. If America goes down, China will have New Zealand in a heartbeat. I'm a coward. If there was a safe place to run to, I'd already be there, but this is the place.
• 35:35
  This is the place to make the stand because only America can stop Russia and China. Only America can do that.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: The other day, we were on a call together, my wife was also on this. She's from Australia. And I was listening to you and her talk about America through your eyes, And it was actually amazing to hear how you viewed America because, you know, I I grew up here. I grew up in the Midwest, Ohio. This is everything I see is just normal to me.
• 36:04
  But to see, you you coming from New Zealand, her coming from Australia, and we see the the states of both those countries now. Can you just share a little bit of what you were talking about? Just your perspective of just how precious America is and and what it's been like, like, through your eyes, how valuable our country is and the people in the country and the constitution and everything that you see here.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: Well, look, I was just back in New Zealand A Month ago for a month. It was cold. It was communist, but I had a great time catching up with everybody. And one of the people I caught up with my 89 year old dad. And he's often told me as a young boy, was during World War II, he was eight, 10 years old, and they were facing invasion by the Japanese army.
• 36:48
  The Japanese army was pillaging and slaughtering and just working its way through the Pacific. And they knew they had Japanese submarines in their harbors, and they knew they were in trouble because all our guys were over in North Africa fighting the Nazis. And if it wasn't for the sacrifice of American sailors and soldiers and airmen and marines at the battles of Guadalcanal and the Coral Sea in Midway, I wouldn't be here. My parents wouldn't be here. So we understand, when I grew up and it's been changed a little now because we've had so much propaganda.
• 37:28
  When I grew up, America was looked at with reverence. Now the leader of the free world, American presidents were just like almost gods on earth. You revered America and the constitution that set people free was so admired. And even today, people who love freedom all around the world admire the American constitution. They admire what America's done.
• 37:55
  They understand that America's brought more people out of poverty, saved more people from tyranny, has done more good in the world than any other nation, and we all understand that if America's lost, we're done. We're over. We've had it, so we're all rooting for America. This country has to be saved so that Australia and New Zealand and all the other countries that wanna be free can also be saved. So me being here is my way of paying a debt and helping my country.
• 38:31
  It it all works in together. It's it's it's all we're in this together. Everybody loves freedom, has to care about America.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And and you're it's, it's a very difficult situation we find ourselves in, but it's also these are the situations that forge men and women as well that in these difficult situations stand up and choose to fight and not violently. You know, we don't want to walk into a trap, which they want us to do, they're egging us into, which is to get you to get violence so they can bring in martial law or the UN or Chinese troops or who knows what would be next. But that people fight and they stand up for what's right and not what's comfortable. And that's something I think that across a lot of churches and across a lot of schools and universities and households in America.
• 39:25
  It's it's our comfort in our seeking a a polite society has stopped us from standing up for what's right, and I think that we really have to do we we have to stand up for what's right right now.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, look, the greatest victories come from the darkest times because that's when good people finally get off the damn fence and do what they should have been doing all along. And this is how I see it. I tour all over the country. I talk to church groups.
• 39:52
  I talk to political groups, all of it. I'm constantly on the road. This is what I see. We're all disappointed in our conservative leadership, the Republican leadership. We're all horribly disappointed in the leadership of the churches and what people are doing at the grassroots is forming new groups, little home churches, little political groups, little patriot groups all over the country.
• 40:19
  It's bigger than the Tea Party movement and it's much younger too because for two years, people with school aged kids were sitting at home for two years reading their kids' school textbooks in horror, sitting in on their kids' Zoom sessions in horror, watching their economy devastated by the China virus in horror, watching their cities burned by Chinese communist Black Lives Matter, and then watching their elections stolen, and then watching what Biden's doing to the economy now and gutting the military and all the other things he's doing, and they're finally woken up to the fact that, yes, we could lose this country. They've finally got rid of the idea America's always gonna be free and strong, and they're understanding America's teetering right on the edge of destruction now. So everywhere I go, I see millions of people fired up, ready to go, and the new leaders are coming through, and this is the exciting movement that I see right now.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: It's encouraging too, and I think that people have finally stopped looking for someone to come in and fix everything, and they've realized that really this is a country for We the People. And actually, I just want to throw in a quick note there for all of you watching. I really encourage you to share this video with your friends. If you're at a church, send this out to your church group. Because this is look, We're fighting in an information war.
• 41:47
  That's part of that's part one of the main tactics. And I I've studied unrestricted warfare a lot, and I've I've interviewed a lot of people and and and spoke, you to to experts on this, and it's it's serious. It's it's an information war. It's not a kinetic war. It's subversion.
• 42:01
  It's through the ideas, through the control of the media. So it's also a big part of is control of technology. Right? So it's the reason why a video like this would never go viral on YouTube because the the algorithms have shadow banned me so much that I'm lucky to get, you know, a few thousand views on there. So for those of you that are watching, as one thing you can do to help fight this is just get this information out.
• 42:21
  Even better, let me go ahead and pull up Trevor, I'm gonna pull up your website for the enemies within the church, because what's even better is, you know, get your look, get your church to screen this movie. Right? So this is enemieswithinthechurch.com. You can arrange for a group watching of this. You can go to your local school and play this.
• 42:39
  You can go to your local, you know, political council meeting or whatever it is that you want to. You can go there, you can introduce people to this information. So because this is what's key. But something I wanna I wanna talk to you about with this is that, you know, I've gone through my own journey of understanding who the enemy is with this, with with the whole process. Right?
• 43:01
  Understanding the Chinese Communist Party very well. Back in the early days when I was working with the Epoch Times, you know, through a lot of my context there, I was very, very clearly able to see the evil nature of the Chinese Communist Party. But I have to admit that once everything started happening with Russia, I wasn't sure. Is Putin is he a good guy? Is he, you know, is he you know, everything he says matches what I wanted to hear.
• 43:26
  He's talking about sovereign nations. He's talking about the, you know, the the imperialist system, you know, the the new world order basically needs to be brought down. But then it was actually, you know, having Jeff Nyquist on a handful of times, it really helped me understand, especially looking back in history, that the Soviets and the Chinese, their plan never stopped. And, you know, that that, you know, that there was a feigned collapse of of communism that come in, disappeared with the fall of the Soviet Union, but they just rebranded it. If there's one thing that we should take away from this discussion so far is that they're experts at rebranding something as something else.
• 44:03
  You know, they're saying that, you know, they're they're turning Marxism into tolerance. Right? They're experts at hiding within things and hiding behind words. And so one question I have here is there you know, when I was talking to Jeff, he talked about how when the communists are putting together propaganda campaigns, is they're not just targeting the left. They're not just saying, well, the left is, know, they're the most woke, and so they're gonna be easiest to influence with with propaganda.
• 44:30
  They're looking at every single sliver of a society and crafting a unique message that's going to match probably 90% of the beliefs of those people. But it's going to have that 10%, which is the poison pill, which is what will enable them to get their ideas in, like you talked about with the 10%, you know, and 99% versus the Bible and 10% of the Marxist ideas. So what we're seeing now is and what I'm witnessing is that there are a lot of even mainstream conservatives that are almost coming out in support of Putin and saying that, look. It's a Christian it's a Christian nation. You know, he's really fighting against the the deep state.
• 45:09
  But is that just another layer of propaganda to try to confuse us and to think that maybe Putin is our friend and and and actually not representing this massive behemoth of a communist nation?
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: Well, I would say yes, absolutely, but I understand a lot of your viewers would have a bit of a problem with that statement, so there really needs to be a bit of history there, a little bit of background because, okay, I'm of the belief that the collapse of communism was not really It was more of a strategic retreat than a collapse, and that there's always been, that was done in collusion with the Chinese. The Chinese had a role to play that was specifically to seduce America into dealing with China, building up China's economy, etcetera. But even if you don't accept it, even if it's a bit arcane for you, it is a fact now that Russia and China are allies. They work together in the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, which is a military, political, and economic alliance. They're holding continuous military operations together.
• 46:23
  They held one just off the coast of Hawaii earlier this year, another one in the North Indian Ocean, a big joint naval exercise. They held the world's biggest military ground exercise outside St. Petersburg A Few Years ago called Zapod eighteen. The Russian and Chinese militaries are working together, their economies are integrated. Vladimir Putin even delayed his invasion of Ukraine A Few Days to his great disadvantage so that Xi could finish the Olympics.
• 46:56
  His good friend Xi could have his moment of glory. But there's a background to this. And as you said, Putin and see, when Nazi Germany was taken down, America went in there and got rid of every Nazi who would ever hold any public office. They let some of them come back, but they denazified the country. That was never done to the Soviet Union.
• 47:21
  So the KGB, which always controlled the Soviet Union is now more powerful then, now called the FSB than it ever was under Soviet times. And their goal remains to destroy The United States. That's their goal. So there was a big campaign mounted about twenty years ago to disarm the American right and the Christian right, the political right in Europe, because these were going to be the big enemy. If there's ever a war, it's gonna be the American conservatives, the Reaganites, the Bush supporters, the Trump supporters, they would have been the big enemies.
• 48:01
  So how do we neutralize that segment? So they started putting out this propaganda about twenty years ago. Vladimir Putin's a Christian. He goes to Orthodox services. He's promoting Christianity.
• 48:14
  They set up a big family values organization in about 1995 and started holding conferences in Georgia and Russia, inviting American social conservatives there. From all over the world, had friends who went to these things and said, Vladimir Putin's a Christian. He's gonna stand with us against this gay agenda. He's gonna stand with us against the Muslims. He's a Christian leader.
• 48:41
  Prominent American social conservatives called Vladimir Putin a lion of Christianity. Okay, well, if he's a lion of Christianity, you answer me this. He held a youth conference in Sochi, Russia in 2017, World Festival of Youth and Students. Look it up on YouTube. Right now, Vladimir Putin World Festival of Youth and Students, Sochi twenty seventeen.
• 49:09
  Thirty thousand young kids from there all over the world. It was a big event. Putin was like a rock star. He organised it, he convened it, and they were all looking at him like he was on the Rolling Stones or something, or I don't know, some rapper or whatever. And he told all his 30,000 kids, Go for it.
• 49:30
  The future is yours. Well, these were 30,000 young communists from all over the world, including America. The event was to celebrate of the Bolshevik revolution. So while he's playing the anti communist card with the right and he's pretending to be a Christian with the right, he's also cultivating the communist movement like he's always done because they're playing both sides. Like in France, the Russians support Marie Le Pen of the so called right, but they all support also support the French Communist Party on the left.
• 50:07
  In Germany, they support the German Communist Party, but they also supported who I believe was a Russian agent, Angela Merkel on the right, the woman who let a million Muslim refugees into Germany. They're playing both sides. So American Christians, you've a lot of American Christians now joining the Orthodox Church because that's closest to Russia. They think Putin's their man, Putin's their hero, and as he's gone into Ukraine, they were initially horrified, but now they can, well, I can understand his point of view. Putin's really trying to save us from the new world order and the Ukrainians are a bunch of Nazis and the Ukrainians are working for the new global order and they're all corrupt they've got bio labs and all of this kind of thing.
• 50:55
  All of that is Russian propaganda. Ukraine was a genuine breakaway from the Soviet state. They had a pro Russian government up until the Maidan era, and the people rose up and threw out a pro Russian president and started putting in pro Western, pro anti corruption presidents, and Zelenskyy is the last one. The Russians have been putting massive propaganda into The US Right and the European right for nearly fifteen years now in preparation for the invasion of the Ukraine and then their conquest of Europe, which is coming next. I can give you countless examples of this.
• 51:38
  I read the left wing press. They are behind Putin. They are behind him. The two breakaway republics in Ukraine, Donetsk and Luhansk, are now Soviet Socialist Republics. Their flags are hammer and sickle.
• 52:01
  They complain that Zelenskyy banned political parties in Ukraine, opposition political parties, that he banned the Ukrainian Communist Party because it was working for Russia, just like the British banned the British Union of Fascists in World War II because it was working for the Nazis, and the Americans shut down the German American bond because it was pro Nazi. That's what Zelensky is doing in Russia. But there's one good example too, and I just did a program on Epoch TV about this, and I urge people to watch it. It's my last show, just look up Epoch TV, Trevor Loudon, my last show, and it's about a global youth development conference that took place in Beijing about a month ago. And it was all about implementing the UN's two thousand and thirty agenda, right?
• 52:57
  And they had kids from all over the world. Well, these kids were communists. These kids were from the British Communist Party, the Sudanese Communist Party, the French Communist Party. And the keynote speaker was Klaus Schwab, the World Economic Forum. One of the organizers of this was Vladimir Putin.
• 53:18
  Klaus Schwab talks about how Putin was one of his global world leaders back in the '20s, how he's worked twenty years ago, how he's worked with Putin for twenty five years. That's exactly it. Klaus Schwab has a bust of Lenin in his office. What this proved, this documentary attempts to prove, and I've got much more to back it up, is that China and Russia are working together, and the World Economic Forum is their puppet. It is their operation.
• 53:53
  But millions of American Christians think, well, we hate the World Economic Forum. Klaus Schwab is crazy, and Putin stands against him, so we're gonna stand with Putin against the global ists and George Soros and Klaus Schwab. Putin is the new world order, but he's got millions of American Christians thinking that he's on their side. They have thousands of people in Russian military intelligence pouring stuff onto the internet every single day to enforce these ideas. This is coming through mainstream American conservative sites now.
• 54:35
  We all know them. Even Tucker Carlson is echoing some of these points unknowingly. It's just Russian propaganda, and it's a massive effort. We do not understand how many millions of dollars, billions of dollars probably the Russians put into this and how deeply they understand the psychology of Americans, how deeply they know how to manipulate this country.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: And it's not just the left because I think it's easy you know, for folks that are more on the right to look at that and say, yeah, look, they're the ones out there joining BLM riots and everything. So they're the ones that have been deceived without realizing that it's really come after them. So can you I want to get into a little bit here, Operation Trust, just in in what it was. And then we're
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: just talk about Charlottesville just quickly before get to Okay. Here's a good example of how this works. Remember Charlottesville, the big disaster that happened about three years ago, where the where we had clashes on the streets of Charlottesville, Virginia. You had left wing protesters battling white supremacists. And who got the blame for it?
• 55:45
  Republicans and Trump got the blame for it. Right? Well, the left wing parties, they were the party of socialism, liberation, etcetera. They are pro Russia. They have worked for Russia.
• 55:56
  But the right, that's Richard Spencer and David Duke, they are pro Russian as well. They support Russia. They support the theories of of who's the guy that just his daughter just got shot? Vlad Dugan, Alexander Dugan. His his daughter just got blown up in a car bomb.
• 56:17
  Right? Well, Alexander Dugan started the national Bolshevik movement, the movement of where you bring the left wing of the fascist movement together with the right wing of the communist movement to create this new movement which appeals to the American white supremacists like David Duke, like Richard Spencer, like Matt Hauenbach. So in Charlottesville, you had pro Russian communists fighting against pro Russian white supremacists, and who gets the blame for it? Republicans, conservatives, and president Trump. It was a Russian operation to discredit us, And this kind of thing is happening all the time.
• 57:01
  And all these people out there who's supporting Putin and thinking Putin's the man are basically being set up by the Democrats and the left to be painted as pro Russian when if Ukraine falls and the slaughter comes, the right in this country will be demonized as pro Russian. The Democrats will be in bed with Russians for sixty years, but they'll hang it on the right because we've been sucked into supporting Putin.
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: You know, that's it's it's interesting because when I asked Jeff Nyquist this, I said, you know, we're used to the mainstream media always demonizing, you know, Trump, for instance, or demonizing whatever we think is good. And I asked him, I said, so, you know, if why would they demonize Trump as being, you know, in cahoots with Russia? And what Jeff said was actually that around that time, it's because their ties to Russia were becoming too prominent. You had Hillary Clinton. You had uranium one.
• 57:58
  You had so all of their Russian ties of the left were becoming too noticeable, so they had to just flip, and they had to flip the narrative and now blame the right on it. So it's it's this constant game of smoke and mirrors.
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: Well, they're playing the patriots now. They've been in bed with Russia and the communist for sixty years. Now they're taking the patriot side, and they're demonizing us as the traitors. You know, Nancy Pelosi going to Taiwan. I'm pro Taiwan.
• 58:26
  We're standing up for Taiwan. All she did was give the Chinese an excuse to start blockading Taiwan and the Democrats cover for their communism. That's what she did. It was quite smart. But just one little point here too.
• 58:41
  On the Ukraine, we're told the Ukrainians are Nazis, the Ukrainians are corrupt. What have Trump supporters been told they are for the last five years?
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: Corruptcy.
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: Look, we saw Sam Harris, the atheist, the other day on YouTube saying the corruption of the Biden administration is tiny, it's infinitesimal compared to the massive corruption of the Trump administration. So you've got the Trump administration and Trump supporters being tied as corrupt and white supremacists and Nazis. So what are the Ukrainians being called right now? They've been called corrupt. They've been called Nazis.
• 59:23
  They've been called fascists. They are subject to the same communist propaganda program that Trump supporters have been subject to in this country, and Trump supporters are out there criticizing Ukrainians and supporting Putin who's behind all of this. It's the ultimate scam. We should pay Trump's you know, Trump did more to support Ukraine and stop Putin than any other president. Any other president Trump supporters should understand that.
• 59:54
  He knew the dangers of Putin and Russia. He gave the Ukrainians lots and lots and lots of armaments and support, but now you've got millions of American conservatives saying Putin's our guy. He's a Christian. I support Putin, and they're walking into a trap. That's all I can say.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm seeing a similar narrative being spun around China and people saying that Xi Jinping is actually he's cast off the CCP. He's fighting against the CCP, and and I even had someone post on Telegram in one of the comments saying, if I saw Chinese troops arrive, I would welcome them because they're here to free me from the deep state.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Look. I I saw a QAnon supporter write. He was a Canadian, he said, If Russian troops invaded Canada tomorrow, I would welcome them as liberators. Well, how much propaganda is people like that had to accept that they could invite, they could welcome brutal dictators into their country.
• 1:00:59
  Now Canada's got deep problems. The United States has got deep problems, but I'll tell you what, I'd rather live in Canada or The United States than Russia or China any day of the week. They Russia is a Christian country. 6% of Russians go to church each week. Abortions are four times the level of The United States, but it's a Christian moral country, and it's morally superior to The United States.
• 1:01:26
  Only people who do not pay attention could believe such garbage.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: It'd be like someone trying to convince me that China was an open free market capitalist country.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: Well, Nancy Pelosi said to what she said, they were the freest one of the freest countries in the world. Yeah. Listen. We are living in a world of propaganda and lies, and we've got to apply Occam's razor here. What is the simplest explanation?
• 1:01:53
  The simplest explanation is Russia and China are working together militarily and politically and economically to take The United States down. They're trying to take down the dollar. They're trying to take down our military. They're trying to take down our culture. They're trying to start a civil war on American soil.
• 1:02:11
  That is the simplest explanation for what's going on, and that also the other explanation is we got people in our government like Joe Biden who are complicit in this, who are not standing against this. We're in a revolution directed by China and its allies, and we don't even know we're in a revolution.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think that one point I'll throw in as well is, you know, I've I've researched a lot of this stuff and also researched into our government and and the bio labs and the Nazis. And and the thing is is that, you know, all from my understanding, almost all propaganda is still based on some kernel of truth. You know? And so if you look at COVID, for instance, I've had on David Martin a lot of these, you know, kind of whistleblowers from Pfizer.
• 1:02:57
  You know, everything points to the fact that it actually originated in The United States, but it was done with the cooperation, you know, with with Ralph Baric and everything. It went over to China, but it was released over there. And so there's it's like there is massive corruption within our American government. And even looking into the other bio labs in Ukraine that were doing bad things, well, you know, the the American government has been complicit in a lot of that. But the problem I see with this is that or even with Nazis.
• 1:03:23
  It's like, are there Nazis that yeah. There are probably some salt. There's also there's Nazis in America. So there's there's some portion of Nazis in Ukraine. But the problem is is that when that gets amplified to become the norm, right, and that's what they they seem to do with the propaganda is that they find some small group of Nazis in America, for instance, and they say that all Trump supporters are Nazis.
• 1:03:43
  Or they find some group over in Ukraine and say, well, they're all the armies are all Nazis. And, you know, and I even look, I admittedly fell for some of that thinking in my journey of trying to understand the the truth of the situation. And so now it's like now that I feel like I really am seeing the picture much clearly. It's like, there's it's not black and white. I think a lot of Americans, they want to put things into a very simple black and white kind of Disney esque box.
• 1:04:09
  It's like, oh, he's the hero, and he's the bad guy. Well, the the reality is is that there are bad people on all sides of this story, but fundamentally, what's good is is the heart of America and the American people, and that's what's at at threat here.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And I would say the heart of the Ukrainian people too. And this is a Christian nation. Talk about the bio labs. They were all built by the Soviets.
• 1:04:35
  They built those bio labs because they had the world's largest bioweapons program. They were doing anthrax, they're doing smallpox, plague, everything. When Ukraine became free, they had these bio labs in this world. What do we do with them? They had thousands of staff.
• 1:04:52
  We got to keep them going, otherwise they're going to go and work for Iraq or North Korea. So the Europeans, the Ukrainians, and the Americans funded those labs and kept them open to keep the staff and turned them on to doing agricultural research and things like that. And I'm sure they were also monitoring what the Russians were doing as well. But there's a very innocent explanation here, but Vladimir Putin comes out and says, well, these were gonna bring the new play. And as everybody spooked about COVID, a lot of people believed that.
• 1:05:26
  The Nazis, Hungary had a Nazi government in World War II, so did Norway, so did France. America had a big Nazi movement. Britain had the British Union of Fascists. There were Nazis everywhere. There were Nazis in Ukraine, and they welcomed Hitler in because the Soviets had just murdered 10,000,000 of them by starvation in the Holodomor, the big forced famine in the '30s.
• 1:05:54
  The Nazi component in Ukraine is minuscule. It's minuscule. There'd be as many Nazis today in Romania or Germany or Sweden proportionally as there are in Ukraine. There'd be more in Russia, actually. Putin's Dugan, his advisor, he controls the whole Nazi movement there.
• 1:06:18
  So all of the things Russia is way, way more corrupt than Ukraine, way more corrupt. Ukraine's not a perfect country, but it's standing between us and the domination of Europe and the destruction of the West. It is taking the bullets that we're going to be taking if we let it fall. And I don't like to be seen on the same side as Nancy Pelosi or Joe Biden. They are just virtue signaling.
• 1:06:46
  Joe Biden talks about his $40,000,000,000 worth of aid for Ukraine. They've got about 10% of it so far.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: It's all
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: going to black market. It's all going to the black market. It's well, he's not even released a lot of what he said he has, so he's given them enough to keep fighting because I think he wants to use them as an election issue, but not enough to win. Biden was elected by a group called the Council for a Livable World. He's worked with them his entire career.
• 1:07:17
  They were set up by a Russian agent, Leo Silard, to elect senators who had worked to destroy the United States military, and he was one of their very first recruits. That's why he's gutting our military while Russia and China are getting ready for war. That's why he's not really going to support Ukraine. That's why he's not going to stand with Taiwan, because he is China and Russia's man and always has been. So what have we got?
• 1:07:45
  We've got the American people. We've got the good guys left in the military, and we got God. That's what we've got, and we better stand by those things or otherwise we're in deep trouble.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we certainly are. So, Trevor, before we're gonna head over Rise TV soon for the q and a, and I also want to dig more into I really want to hear your thoughts on QAnon and Operation Trust and just to hear your perspective. Now I don't want inject any of my thoughts in there. I want to just ask you some questions about that and hear your thoughts on it. But before we go over on Arise TV and I want to have that conversation over there because that's the kind of conversation that, a, the media will attack or who knows what just for even talking about it.
• 1:08:28
  It just it's one those trigger words I'd rather be somewhere more private. But before we head over there, how can people find you? I know that, you know, we have your website, which I showed, if they want to watch your documentary, enemies is it enemies or enemy within the church?
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: Enemies within the church. There's more than one of them.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: And so and we name them. We have countless whistleblowers, two hours of the most shocking stuff you'll ever see, and two hours of the most hopeful stuff you will ever see as well.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: So enemieswithinthechurch.com is is where they can go for that. And is there someone they can follow you on social media or your other main website, or is that the main place?
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, Trevor Loudon, l o u d o n, on on Facebook. I have a website, TrevorLoudon.com, but you can't Google TrevorLoudon.com because Facebook because Google's forgotten my IP address, so you may have to put it in the search bar at the top of the page, and also have a big website called KeyWiki, keywiki.org, and that's got 149,997 files of communists, socialists, radicals all over America, Britain, Canada, Australia, New Zealand. It profiles Joe Biden, Hillary
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: Clinton, Barack Keywiki dot org.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah. KeyWiki. So that is if you wanna look up your local city councilor, if you're in Tucson, you wanna know the communist ties of your mayor, mister Romero. If you wanna know the ties of communist ties of Raoul Grahaova or Patty Murray, the senator, if you live in Washington, this is the site view. That's for the Connecticut people, that article there, that's about the communist ties of Richard Blumenthal, one of your senators.
• 1:10:26
  The only one more tied into the communist in Connecticut than him is your other Senator, Chris Murphy. So that's the place to go if you want the backgrounds of your local councilors, congressmen, state reps, radical actors, peace movement people, whatever, a lot of church people in there, etcetera. It's like a Wikipedia of American communism.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I've spent some time poking around there, and it's frightening. It's important to know this information, for sure.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: And as I said in our first movie, Enemies Within, there's about 100 members of Congress and 25 members of the US Senate who couldn't pass a background check to drive a school bus in any county in America, but there are no background checks in Congress, and the communists know that, and the Iranians and the Russians and the Chinese and the North Koreans and the Cubans have been using it for years to our disadvantage.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: Incredible. So folks, we're now gonna head over to Rise TV. If you want to join us, as I mentioned in the beginning, there's a link for a free trial below. And look, if you want to support my work, the number one way you can do that is actually just sharing this video with friends and family. But if you really want to support and help out Rise TV is $999 $9.99 a month.
• 1:11:48
  And that is what allows me to keep at this it's what pays the bills because trust me, I'm getting a check for $50 a month from YouTube because most everything I do is demonetize because I talk about communism. You know, who knows what their ties are to the CCP and KGB for all we know. So, but on Rise TV, though, it's a streaming platform that is owned and run by Patriots for Patriots. And we have amazing guests like Trevor Loudon. And we always do is the second half of the show, you can ask your questions.
• 1:12:16
  So to on today's show, I'm going to talk to Trevor a little more about what his thoughts are on the seventeen movement as you call it. But also, if you have any specific questions for Trevor, it's a smaller, more intimate group. So you can ask your questions as well. So I hope to see you all on there. Make sure you check out Trevor's documentary Enemies Within the Church.
• 1:12:37
  It's a really important documentary to see and to share as well. And so Dom, you can go ahead and cut the public feeds. And so we'll now be over on Rise TV only.