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Italian teams stumble in the UCL knockouts - Calcio Carousel - Ep. 294 · The Calcio Guys

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady being at the Melan game today definitely has
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Speaker 1: to be the biggest story of the weekend in Italian soccer.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely nothing else to talk about, no other big story,
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Speaker 1: especially out of Melan. Nothing else happening in Melan this week.
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Speaker 1: Tom Brady random crossover at the at the San Seato
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Speaker 1: today to watch Melan Como. Uh maybe he was cheering
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Speaker 1: for for Como. I don't know, but couch you guys,
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Speaker 1: Johnny Agiano Nicholas, you could follow us on all your
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Speaker 1: favorite podcasting platforms and social media YouTube, Instagram, on Facebook, Twitter,
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Speaker 1: you know the deal. Guys, guys, how's going?
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Speaker 2: But it's going okay, I mean not the not the
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Speaker 2: best with the Melin's result today, even though Ready was
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Speaker 2: in the crowd. So that's like a major crossover for me.
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Speaker 2: But I should have worn my my Brady Jers, I
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Speaker 2: guess for tonight, but I decided not to. But again, yeah,
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Speaker 2: happy to be back talking Coultrol with the guys. What's
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Speaker 2: to unfold and lot's controversy to talk about, so we're
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Speaker 2: here for it.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm doing okay basically in Olympics mode right
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Speaker 3: now because I have nothing else going for me for
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Speaker 3: soccer right now, just being hopefully at all. But that's
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Speaker 3: about it. So yeah, that's what I'm facing right now.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there was the derby Dell Jennine on
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Speaker 1: what was it on Sunday? Saturday Sunday, and then the
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Speaker 1: city I posted was it Hoyland and Malin speed skating
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Speaker 1: as the game graphic. I know they've been kind of
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Speaker 1: posting a couple of things as an Olympics. I mean,
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Speaker 1: obviously with the Olympics being in Italy, but age I
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Speaker 1: was telling Jenny, uh, you know, while we're waiting for you,
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Speaker 1: it's just funny that, you know, we had a big
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Speaker 1: game Saturday at the San Sato, at another game today
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Speaker 1: at the San Seato. Meanwhile, everything is going on with
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Speaker 1: the Olympics. It's like the focus is on Melan for
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Speaker 1: everything else, all these winter sports. I couldn't just stop
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Speaker 1: games in Melan. It seems like it's a logistical nightmare.
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Speaker 1: I understand why the season is going to continue. You're
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Speaker 1: not gonna stop the season for two weeks just because
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Speaker 1: one in Italian city is hosting the Olympics. But it
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Speaker 1: just felt it feels like some attention is away. Maybe
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Speaker 1: maybe that's just my point of view, because me too.
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Speaker 1: I'm watching a lot of the Olympics, but I wonder
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Speaker 1: what it's like there where people are people are going
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Speaker 1: to the games, right, you know, we had a lot
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Speaker 1: of hockey to I don't know if anyone wants to
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Speaker 1: watch hockey instead of soccer. But Jenny made a good point.
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Speaker 1: It's also you have an opportunity now for celebrities to
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Speaker 1: watch these games, like Tom Brady, you gotta.
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Speaker 2: You gotta, they gotta milk. The Italian's gotta milk this, right,
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Speaker 2: That's that's what they're fair. That's what they're good at, right,
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Speaker 2: the Italians that they're good at milking things. You know,
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Speaker 2: the people are on on CSST for for and uh
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Speaker 2: you know, uh for forever, right that they're on the
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Speaker 2: disability forever, and they'll continue to can paycheck. I mean,
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Speaker 2: the Italians over there, they might as well fucking milk
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Speaker 2: this Olympics, said, yeah, anything sporting events, So yeah, I
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Speaker 2: was an This game was supposed to be in Australia, right,
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Speaker 2: like we said last week there in Perth, so happy
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Speaker 2: that it was in Italy. To be honest with you again,
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Speaker 2: I no no disrespect to our Australian friends, but this
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Speaker 2: game needs to be in Italy. And listen, the Italy
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Speaker 2: has hosted the Olympics before, you know, twenty years agoing
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Speaker 2: oh six, and you know, the the show still went on.
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Speaker 2: So with twenty years, fast forward to twenty twenty six
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Speaker 2: and again the show must go on. So yeah, I
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Speaker 2: don't know, I think it is what is like the
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Speaker 2: there's there's other events where you know, other cities and
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Speaker 2: other countries that have hosted events that you know, still
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Speaker 2: have major sporting events go on in their countries, and
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Speaker 2: you know, I think it's there's no different here this
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Speaker 2: this year.
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Speaker 3: I honestly just like I want to say, like people
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Speaker 3: are still.
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Speaker 2: Coming in from other like other countries, other cities to
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Speaker 2: go watch these things. So like again the the arena
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Speaker 2: for like for US Canadians, you know, or we want
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Speaker 2: to talk about that because we're we have Italian backrod
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Speaker 2: or do we sick or do we stack? I don't
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Speaker 2: know joking aside, Listen, the arena was what seemed to
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Speaker 2: be packed for the kind of game this morning. Uh.
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Speaker 2: Sanseito seemed to be rocking this weekend for both matches
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Speaker 2: so uh and today's match today for for me on Como.
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Speaker 2: So again, people are gonna go to the events. Like
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Speaker 2: that's for me as a is a no brainer.
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Speaker 3: I don't know, And like it's so nice to actually
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Speaker 3: have like like an actual event going on in your
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Speaker 3: city and you're still able to do other things that
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Speaker 3: are happening, you know, Like, yeah, it's not like if
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Speaker 3: every year this happens. Yeah, it's not like the World
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Speaker 3: Cup where it's like, oh, I'm sorry, if you're gonna
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Speaker 3: be a whole city, you can't have anything else going on.
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Speaker 1: It's like who cares?
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Speaker 2: Who cares?
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Speaker 3: Yeah exactly what does that have to be problematic for it?
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Speaker 3: But yeah, that is what it is.
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Speaker 2: Like like Brazil, they hosted the Olympics and the World
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Speaker 2: Cup the same year, didn't.
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Speaker 1: They two years ago?
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Speaker 2: Fourteen sixteen, fourteen sixteen, okay, fair enough whatever.
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Speaker 3: That Still it felt it felt the same.
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Speaker 2: It felt like the same year. Sorry, I don't don't know,
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Speaker 2: but again, like these are things that are occurring, things
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Speaker 2: that don't happen every year. So I mean, I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I've seen from the Olympics that I've seen and obviously
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Speaker 2: the Saitia matches that we watch, I feel like there's
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Speaker 2: there's crowds in both of them. So what the people
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Speaker 2: Milano and surrounding areas enjoy. And again the showlmost go on.
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Speaker 1: It was a big day if you're a Italian Canadian though,
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Speaker 1: and and you like curling, Uh, Italy vers to Canada
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Speaker 1: and men and women's side by the way, Yeah, Canada
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Speaker 1: took Canada. Canada took the edge in both. So I
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Speaker 1: don't know if that's a preview of what's to come
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Speaker 1: in June or whatnot. Maybe it'll be the opposite score.
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Speaker 1: But but we'll see, we'll see, you know, obviously, you
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Speaker 1: know we're gonna talk to city. Yeah a lot. Let's
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Speaker 1: talk about in Citia this past weekend. But I want
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Speaker 1: to start with Champions League because rough, rough go right
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Speaker 1: for the three Italian teams who played were in the
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Speaker 1: knockout stage now in the Champions League Galatasi five two
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Speaker 1: uve uh Atlanta lost to nothing to Dorman Away and
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Speaker 1: in To lost three to one to Boto Glimt. Today. Look,
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Speaker 1: we talked about it last week. We knew none of
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Speaker 1: these matchups were gonna be easy for the Italian teams.
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Speaker 1: You know, even Bodo Glimt. On paper, it's probably the
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Speaker 1: easiest matchup out of the three. But I said it, look,
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Speaker 1: it's a tough it's a tough location. It's it's up north.
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Speaker 1: I don't know how cold it was today, and it's
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Speaker 1: it's a bit I would say, shocking to see the
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Speaker 1: three results, three losses for the Italian teams today. But
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Speaker 1: it's a bit worrisome, right, especially with the playoffs coming
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Speaker 1: up in what six weeks, five weeks whatever it is
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Speaker 1: for the World Cup, I don't know. Hopefully, you know,
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Speaker 1: hopefully it's not a sign of things to come for
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Speaker 1: Italian teams traveling away in these in these important matches.
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Speaker 1: You know, you know, game by game, you've a galtass right,
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Speaker 1: they were in it up until the red card from
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Speaker 1: from Cabal. Stupid player, stupid play, Sorry, not stupid player,
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Speaker 1: but stupid play comes on. Sub beyond Cambiazo subbed off
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Speaker 1: because he has a yellow Kabak comes on and picks
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Speaker 1: up two yellows in the span of what I don't know,
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Speaker 1: twenty minutes, pretty much the same play on both kind
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Speaker 1: of getting you know, his arms in there, tying up.
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Speaker 1: I forget the player and you've kind of lost it.
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Speaker 1: After that was sixty seventh minute, I know, Davisons andres
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Speaker 1: put them in the lead while it was still eleven men,
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Speaker 1: but once Caba got the red card, it was game over.
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Speaker 1: They scored two more goals by Noah Lang and Sasha Bowie,
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Speaker 1: and I know I send you a meme Jenny this
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Speaker 1: morning how Napoli fans are upset at Noah Lyaang because
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Speaker 1: didn't do so well. Napoli comes out and and has
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Speaker 1: this crazy game now for Galatasa day on loan. But
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm not going to put this this one
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Speaker 1: to bed. Obviously they stopped to play next week in Thrino,
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Speaker 1: but I have no hopes, especially now with I think
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Speaker 1: Cambiaso is going to be out because of yellow card accumulation,
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Speaker 1: and obviously Cabal because of the red card. And now
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Speaker 1: Bramer and another hospital visit. We don't know how serious
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Speaker 1: his injury is. But as soon as Bramer goes down
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Speaker 1: whenever these it's always the same story, guys, with you,
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Speaker 1: it's always same story. As soon as Bramer goes down,
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Speaker 1: the defense becomes non existent. And for me, also a
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Speaker 1: player I think needs to step up is also.
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Speaker 3: Oh my god, there you go.
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Speaker 1: Sorry, guys. He struggled against inter on the weekend. He
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Speaker 1: struggled yesterday. You know, I'm wondering if it's time for
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Speaker 1: petten to come in and play. But disappointing, disappointing second
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Speaker 1: half for you of A. And I'm sure a lot
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Speaker 1: of Inter fans are saying the same thing. But one
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Speaker 1: thing I'll say, as ufan, with all the comments on
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Speaker 1: social media yesterday from Inter fans, they go out and
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Speaker 1: their team loses three one to Botal Glimpse. Like he
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Speaker 1: who laughs, he who lasts the last laughs the last
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Speaker 1: laughs the hardest, right, So I think you A fans
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Speaker 1: are laughing now. Yes, okay, we have a bigger deficit
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Speaker 1: to come back from in in the home lake. But
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Speaker 1: if you if Inter loses to Boto Glimpse, you know
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Speaker 1: we're gonna have a field day with that one. If
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Speaker 1: they eliminated from Bota Glimps after losing five nothing the
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Speaker 1: final last year. Uh so you know, I know you
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Speaker 1: have fans and defense are gonna go at it. But
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Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day it is
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Speaker 1: worrisome for the state of Italian football. We'll get into
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Speaker 1: other stuff about Italian football after, but uh, it's not
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Speaker 1: making me confident now for March.
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Speaker 2: No, don't, John, if you want to take your thoughts
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Speaker 2: first off, I can go after if you want.
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean like I just feel like as if
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Speaker 3: every time Italian soccer seems to have like a good
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Speaker 3: period like international, like it's always there's always a clapback
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Speaker 3: that comes, that comes out of nowhere, you know, Like
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Speaker 3: the year that we had Roma. What am I saying?
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Speaker 3: We had the derby de la Madonina in uh in
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Speaker 3: the semi finals of the Champions League, right, we had
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Speaker 3: Fidentina that year in the champ in the Conference League final.
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Speaker 3: But at the Lanta winning the Europa League, you know
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Speaker 3: it was was that the same or league? No, hold on,
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Speaker 3: it was a year afterwards, but like okay, but like
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Speaker 3: at the Lanta, you know what I mean, Like it
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Speaker 3: was just we had good years. I think Roma actually
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Speaker 3: went wasn't here.
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Speaker 2: Like five Italian teams.
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Speaker 3: Like yeah, like Romo was in the Europa League final,
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Speaker 3: That's what it was, That's what it was, and a
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Speaker 3: lot like and we go from that and then we
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Speaker 3: had like that a little like a little bit of
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Speaker 3: a week period and we had Atlanta win Europa you
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Speaker 3: know what I mean. Like it's it's just it's just
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Speaker 3: it comes in waves. I honestly don't think it's like, uh,
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Speaker 3: I don't think this is gonna be like permanent like this.
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Speaker 3: I I do know that it's it's not looking good.
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Speaker 3: I don't think any team can quite come back right now.
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Speaker 3: But I feel like it's just just like the sign
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Speaker 3: of the year, like it's just it's just it's just
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Speaker 3: it's just like a bad like an off year. I
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Speaker 3: don't think it's gonna be anything that's gonna be telling
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Speaker 3: of of like the league itself.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 3: I know some people were talking about like all this,
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Speaker 3: you know, like all the league is so behind because
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Speaker 3: of X, Y or Z reason, and I can get that,
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Speaker 3: but I just think it's just an off year. I
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Speaker 3: don't think the week. Obviously financial differences can help, but
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Speaker 3: in this case, I think it's just an off here
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Speaker 3: for the league. The talent, the management is still there,
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Speaker 3: the talent is still there. It's just I just think
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Speaker 3: everything that could have went wrong for all the Italian
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Speaker 3: teams went wrong yesterday and today.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, listen for me, it's it's it's an embarrassment
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Speaker 2: for for on all three fronts because you know, last
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Speaker 2: week and I again I'll hold my hands up and say,
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Speaker 2: like I thought, every Italian team should be able to
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Speaker 2: get past, not with the ease, because we know it's
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Speaker 2: never going to be easy. But you know, these results
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Speaker 2: again show how far Italy is on the European stage.
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Speaker 2: You know, the Inter finals that they've got to gotten
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Speaker 2: into were great, but again are they flashes in the pan,
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Speaker 2: because you know, the Italian teams haven't really sniffed too
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Speaker 2: much glory. Besides, you know the Europe week by by
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Speaker 2: at Talanta, making the finals for Inter. Okay, sure, you
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Speaker 2: know the Feudentina conference, but again these things are all
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Speaker 2: fine and dandy, but we're still so far behind it.
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Speaker 2: And again it shows because our big teams besides in
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Speaker 2: there are nowhere near the production level of these other teams. Like,
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Speaker 2: in no way should you be losing the Galla Tasta
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Speaker 2: the way they did in my opinion at Talanta Dortmund
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Speaker 2: we thought would be the toughest or one of the
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Speaker 2: toughest matchups, and you know they weren't able to score.
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Speaker 2: It was a two to nothing game. And again you
12:35
Speaker 2: know you can kind of maybe take that and kind
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Speaker 2: of play your chances in the return leg, but you know,
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Speaker 2: the five two resolved for Juve. For me, if I'm
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Speaker 2: a Juve, find embarrassing that defense has looked atrocious. They
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Speaker 2: went in, they went in at least two goals a game.
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Speaker 2: They went in five against Galatasa, they went in what
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Speaker 2: was it three against Inter, They were wet in two
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Speaker 2: against lat Show. Uh again, there's a there's a result
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Speaker 2: in there. I'm probably missing. Was it a copy Italian match? Ye?
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Speaker 2: Nothing at Atlanta.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So in the past four games Atta.
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Speaker 2: Two or more of allowed goals and again you could
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Speaker 2: put the waym on whoever you want, but that's just
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Speaker 2: nowhere near good enough. In Syria you might be able
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Speaker 2: to kind of get away with these things, but in
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Speaker 2: Europe it shows how what we get away with as
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Speaker 2: Italian teams in Syria we don't get away with uh
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Speaker 2: in in European competitions. It's just it's just as simple
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Speaker 2: as that. So it's it's a shame result on all
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Speaker 2: on all fronts for all the Italian teams. Again tomorrow
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Speaker 2: Europa League. It's who Bologna I think playing? You know,
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Speaker 2: we'll see, right, is it playing right?
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Speaker 1: Uh?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, Roma Roma, Roma passed already exactly, so we'll
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Speaker 2: see what Bologna does, and and Fiordentina does in conference.
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Speaker 2: But again it's just it's a it's a big shame
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Speaker 2: because these are these are opportunities to get past. And again, Nick,
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Speaker 2: what did you say last week? At least get past
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Speaker 2: this round for you a right, And they shoot themselves
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Speaker 2: in the foot uh in in the opening in the
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Speaker 2: opening fixture against Gala Testaday. And again we know it's
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Speaker 2: it's tough to go to Galatastaday, it's tough to go
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Speaker 2: to Bodo GLAMs. We know these things. But again, for me,
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Speaker 2: there's no excuse for any of these teams. That's kind
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Speaker 2: of how I felt. And listen, well, we'll see if
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Speaker 2: they're able to climb the mountain on the return legs
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Speaker 2: for for these three teams in Champions League. Because yes,
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Speaker 2: it's fine and dandy, we get we can get to
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Speaker 2: a final, but what happens when we get to a
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Speaker 2: final we get embarrassed, you know, and it's it's you know,
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Speaker 2: two finals in three years is great, but if you
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Speaker 2: come out with no victories, I mean, nobody's really gonna
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Speaker 2: remember that in twenty years, you know.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, but like would you accept an interfinal win?
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Speaker 2: No, because how we're going to advances as a as
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Speaker 2: a as a country going forward in European competition. How
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Speaker 2: many times you want to finish second place?
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Speaker 3: No, But what I'm saying is that would you be
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Speaker 3: happy if Inter wand that's the thing like it as a.
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Speaker 2: Rival fan, No, but if if you look at in
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Speaker 2: terms of the league perspective, then it's it's it's a plus.
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Speaker 1: But and it helps because there's you for coefficient and
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Speaker 1: you it'll leads right there battling for that extra European spot.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, as hard as it's to say, as you.
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Speaker 4: Have and we kind of need to cheer for the
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Speaker 4: Italian I don't want to and and I never will,
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Speaker 4: but you know, if we put on if we take
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Speaker 4: off our our team hats and and and just look
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Speaker 4: at it as a whole, I mean we kind of need,
15:45
Speaker 4: not need, but we kind of want that to happen, right, So,
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Speaker 4: and it could be if it's Inter, if it's Meal,
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Speaker 4: and if it's whoever it is that you've I mean,
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Speaker 4: it's whoever it is. But you know, Inter's been able
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Speaker 4: to show that they're the ones that are able to
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Speaker 4: get to these point points. And again, as a rival fan,
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Speaker 4: I don't want them to win the champions They don't
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Speaker 4: get me wrong, but I mean, how much how much
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Speaker 4: wronger can can the country?
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Speaker 2: The league? You know, these clubs go on finishing, you know,
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Speaker 2: second place to these other, these other, these other teams,
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Speaker 2: these other countries in European competition. Again, it's great to see,
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Speaker 2: but I feel like we kind of have to get
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Speaker 2: over that hump because what an Italian team hasn't lifted
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Speaker 2: up the trophy since went twenty ten and it was
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Speaker 2: our our our nemesis in there right who was able
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Speaker 2: to lift it up last. So I don't know, it's
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Speaker 2: sixteen going on sixteen years we haven't seen the Italian
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Speaker 2: team raise the Champions League. For me, it's a bit
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Speaker 2: of a shame. And how many World Cups the guys
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Speaker 2: that we miss in that time too, right, So it
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Speaker 2: doesn't help the cause, and it shows how much further
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Speaker 2: we are behind. And obviously financial that's that's a whole
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Speaker 2: other ballgame. We've spoken about it at length on this
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Speaker 2: show before. But the more we have these results, the
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Speaker 2: you know, the only further back we're gonna go. And again,
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Speaker 2: I don't want to sound like super negative, but it's
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Speaker 2: kind of just the reality of how things are as well.
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Speaker 2: So I hope these teams can shape it up in
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Speaker 2: the second leg because I think again in my opinion,
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Speaker 2: they should be able to advance past these clubs that
17:17
Speaker 2: they're that they're faced again again. You want to say
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Speaker 2: the Dortmund Atlanta one is is the tougher task for
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Speaker 2: the team being Atalanta? Sure, fine, I can, maybe I
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Speaker 2: can accept that, but five two together task that I
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Speaker 2: three one against Borto Glimp for these big, bad city
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Speaker 2: teams is just not good enough in my opinion.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, I think there's a perfect transition
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Speaker 1: into Citia because you know, we had another big game
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Speaker 1: this weekend and what's the only thing people could talk
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Speaker 1: about the referring. And I think that's another issue with
17:52
Speaker 1: the Italian football at this point. It's a lot of distractions, right,
17:55
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, inter fans fans and paying
17:59
Speaker 1: off this rend, ping off this ref Caltropoli. You know,
18:01
Speaker 1: we're still feeling the effects twenty years later. Obviously, let's
18:05
Speaker 1: address the elephant in the room. The big story of
18:06
Speaker 1: the weekend is the is the Kolulu red card against
18:10
Speaker 1: inter Look, it was a good game up until that point.
18:14
Speaker 1: One to one and the first half. Look, I think
18:16
Speaker 1: in that situation, three people made a mistake. Khlulu, he
18:19
Speaker 1: committed a foul. Reached out trim do right, he's on
18:22
Speaker 1: yellow trim. It's a foul.
18:24
Speaker 2: It's soft though, No, for sure.
18:27
Speaker 1: It's it's a foul. Fouls happen in soccer. Bastoni absolutely embarrassing.
18:31
Speaker 1: That dive absolutely embarrassing. It's it's a shame because look,
18:37
Speaker 1: growing up here in Canada, North America, what you hear
18:40
Speaker 1: from from people who don't fall Soccer's like, ah, soccer
18:42
Speaker 1: players dive. Soccer players a soft sport. No, it's not
18:45
Speaker 1: you guy. Guys running over ten to fifteen kilometers a game,
18:49
Speaker 1: the cardio is probably one of the best out of
18:51
Speaker 1: any sport. Right, it's a tough sport. But when you
18:54
Speaker 1: have players like that diving and it's part of the game,
18:57
Speaker 1: it's a bit sad to watch. It takes away from
18:59
Speaker 1: from the good of the game. Right, And you know,
19:01
Speaker 1: I kind of saw that against galatasta I too. Galatastadi
19:04
Speaker 1: players would doing the exact same thing. It's almost as
19:06
Speaker 1: if they knew and and at a certain point it's
19:08
Speaker 1: like they know they're playing a game. With the referee.
19:11
Speaker 1: They know that, you know, second yellows unreviewable, reviewable by VAR.
19:16
Speaker 1: They're just gonna throw themselves on the ground and then
19:19
Speaker 1: you get this bad Rabin in the game. So Bastonia
19:22
Speaker 1: absolutely embarrassing. Obviously, the Penda big mistake with the yellow card.
19:25
Speaker 1: We agree it soft. I could understand from his point
19:29
Speaker 1: of view, from where you're standing on the field, the
19:31
Speaker 1: speed of the play. I could understand in the heat
19:33
Speaker 1: of the moment, why he might have thought Lukaku committed
19:37
Speaker 1: a bit more of a serious foul that would have
19:40
Speaker 1: married Lucacu Clou. Sorryca I, I I get it. But
19:51
Speaker 1: this is where this is what was frustrating for me
19:55
Speaker 1: as a fan. And look, there's nothing you could do
19:58
Speaker 1: about it, but the fact that second yellow still aren't
20:01
Speaker 1: reviewable by VAR after nine years of having VAR. I
20:06
Speaker 1: think that's the frustrating part. And there's nothing to do.
20:09
Speaker 1: It's not in the rule book. Lapenna couldn't have done anything.
20:12
Speaker 1: VAR could not have done anything but the fact that
20:16
Speaker 1: they could review straight reds, off sides handballs by the
20:20
Speaker 1: slimmeest of margins, but they can review a second yellow.
20:24
Speaker 1: And I know that's opening up a whole can of worms, right,
20:29
Speaker 1: because yellow is a bit more it's a bit more subjective.
20:33
Speaker 2: Right.
20:34
Speaker 1: The referee could deem in a yellow because of yellow
20:36
Speaker 1: card foul accumulation, could deem in the yellow because of
20:42
Speaker 1: breaking up a scoring chance. But in this case, I
20:46
Speaker 1: think it was a clear and obvious error that there
20:49
Speaker 1: was no foot contact. It's a hand reaching out and
20:51
Speaker 1: a player exaggerating and dive and that's the frustrating part.
20:55
Speaker 1: And look, I have a feeling that the rules are
20:58
Speaker 1: going to change within the next few year, is that
21:00
Speaker 1: his second yellow will become reviewable underfur and it might
21:03
Speaker 1: be because one of these plays. What I also didn't
21:06
Speaker 1: like is Best only celebrating like you throw yourself with
21:08
Speaker 1: the ground like that, and he knew right away, he
21:11
Speaker 1: knows he's playing a game, he knows where the referee is,
21:13
Speaker 1: he knows kabloos on a yellow, and to celebrate like that,
21:16
Speaker 1: I think it's just embarrassing. It's frustrating. It it turned out,
21:19
Speaker 1: you know what, it was a good game. I loved.
21:21
Speaker 1: I absolutely loved you've's uh desire to fight back in
21:26
Speaker 1: the second half, Loca Tlly's scoring and celebrating the way
21:28
Speaker 1: he did it sucks that inter one. Look, I think
21:31
Speaker 1: at the end of at the end of the day,
21:33
Speaker 1: the better team did win. Did the better team in
21:35
Speaker 1: the game win, No, I think a draw would have
21:38
Speaker 1: been fair, but the fact that we had another look,
21:42
Speaker 1: great inter, You've a derby and it once again it's
21:46
Speaker 1: just talked about refereeing. It sucks. Look, and I know
21:49
Speaker 1: you got to say, oh, you've benefited from the referees
21:52
Speaker 1: and the passes that like, yeah, I know, and we
21:54
Speaker 1: got punished for it. He's got sent down today. Be
21:57
Speaker 1: and then they invented this whole referee system to try
21:59
Speaker 1: to stop right the stop. At the end of the day,
22:03
Speaker 1: refereeing in soccer's hard, right, It's one guy for twenty
22:06
Speaker 1: two players. It's tough. They got to make split second decisions.
22:10
Speaker 1: But we have this technology, we have all these cameras.
22:14
Speaker 1: I don't understand how after nine years it's still a
22:17
Speaker 1: second yellow that results in red.
22:19
Speaker 2: Ah.
22:19
Speaker 1: We can't use hard I'm sorry, clear and obvious errors.
22:23
Speaker 1: Things that are just obvious and clear gotta be overturned.
22:26
Speaker 1: They got to be fixed. It's it's as simple as that.
22:31
Speaker 2: Who wants to unload first, Jenny Muriel, Well, Well.
22:34
Speaker 3: One thing I do want to unload is that. Look, uh,
22:38
Speaker 3: it's the gamesmanship of the sport itself, Like it's it's
22:42
Speaker 3: part of the sport, like fighting in hockey, you know, like, Okay,
22:45
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get a fourth liner to fight with the
22:47
Speaker 3: other teams like number one defenseman, because if we can
22:50
Speaker 3: get the number one defenseman in the box for five minutes,
22:52
Speaker 3: then that's five minutes of not having to deal with
22:54
Speaker 3: the best player, let's say or whatever, and we have
22:56
Speaker 3: the chances to score. And we just lost a fourth
22:59
Speaker 3: liner who's like a scrub, you know what I mean,
23:01
Speaker 3: Like like, it's like so. And the reason why'm bringing
23:05
Speaker 3: up that comparable is that diving in soccer is gainsmanship.
23:09
Speaker 3: I hate it. I I'm on your side in the
23:11
Speaker 3: sense that I hate it, But you can't fault them
23:13
Speaker 3: for playing the system for what it is. A system
23:17
Speaker 3: rewards that type of work, and it's strategic in a sense,
23:21
Speaker 3: you know, so they're definitely gonna play that strategy. It
23:23
Speaker 3: is shitty, it is one hundred percent shitty, but it's
23:28
Speaker 3: a product of their environment. So I think that, like
23:32
Speaker 3: I I, yes, there was a dive, but you know,
23:36
Speaker 3: you can't fault Bastoni for doing that, because that's he
23:39
Speaker 3: like that you said it right, He did know that
23:41
Speaker 3: he was on a second yellow. He does know that, Like, oh,
23:43
Speaker 3: we can get him out of the game if I
23:45
Speaker 3: you know, embellish a bit, and he did, and he
23:47
Speaker 3: did embellish. However, what I don't like is that he
23:51
Speaker 3: had to come out and apologize the press. Who gives
23:54
Speaker 3: a fuck honestly, man, Like, it's so soft that they
23:58
Speaker 3: wanted him to apologize. It's so off that he had
24:01
Speaker 3: to go out and apologize. He's playing the game. That's
24:04
Speaker 3: what it is. Stand with both feet on the ground
24:07
Speaker 3: with your actions. Yeah, I dove, Yeah, Kolulu got a
24:10
Speaker 3: second yellow. It is what it is. It's a rival game.
24:13
Speaker 3: It's a team that's trying to compete for the championship
24:15
Speaker 3: like we are, and it's all's fair in love and war.
24:21
Speaker 3: You know. So, I'm honest saying this because I'm a
24:23
Speaker 3: I'm I'm a uvea hater. I'm not saying that. I'm
24:25
Speaker 3: saying it because it's like in general, like it's it's like,
24:30
Speaker 3: why are you apologizing for? You can apologize that, you
24:33
Speaker 3: know what? Fine, Like, maybe my reaction was a bit,
24:36
Speaker 3: like a bit a bit off. But at the end
24:39
Speaker 3: of the day, you know, I did dive, but so
24:42
Speaker 3: what it was to get him a yellow ps I
24:43
Speaker 3: can actually have a chance to win the game. I
24:46
Speaker 3: don't know. I that's my opinion on the take. Like
24:48
Speaker 3: I think I think that making him apologize or asking
24:52
Speaker 3: for him to do that is it's a bit too much.
24:55
Speaker 3: He's playing, He's playing the game as it is. You know,
24:57
Speaker 3: don't hate the player, hate the game.
25:00
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah.
25:06
Speaker 2: And then then the reports are banishing from the national
25:11
Speaker 2: team because of that, because of that action.
25:12
Speaker 3: It's president one of the best, one of our best
25:18
Speaker 3: center backs.
25:19
Speaker 2: Our best, our best defender.
25:21
Speaker 1: Uh sorry, I'm just gonna interrupt, Adrew. Another funny thing
25:24
Speaker 1: is that the mayor Melan was going after del Piero, like,
25:27
Speaker 1: come on, guys, what are we doing here?
25:29
Speaker 2: Like, but that's the circus. That is exactly that. I mean,
25:33
Speaker 2: that's where if we're if we're if we're worried about
25:37
Speaker 2: those types of things, guys, were were We're really not,
25:40
Speaker 2: you know Italian Canadians, right, It just it is where
25:43
Speaker 2: it is. But listen, I want to dissect and in
25:46
Speaker 2: all this, in my opinion, again, what maybe who should
25:51
Speaker 2: be apologizing is isla if anything like keep that keep
25:55
Speaker 2: that fucking card in your pocket? Do us do the
25:57
Speaker 2: right thing, keep to keep your card in the Because
26:01
Speaker 2: I was gonna interrupt you while you were speaking by
26:04
Speaker 2: you said, what can he what could have a penda? Do?
26:07
Speaker 2: Keep his fucking hand in his pocket? Keep that card
26:09
Speaker 2: in his pocket? Again, we have and you know how
26:14
Speaker 2: I've felt about this fucking var since day one, Guys,
26:17
Speaker 2: I've always had an issue. And again it's not VAR
26:21
Speaker 2: in the grand scheme of things. It's it's it's the
26:24
Speaker 2: way we have to use this tool that we have
26:28
Speaker 2: that screws up with with the action of the game.
26:30
Speaker 2: Because it's in the rule books. How the fuck can
26:32
Speaker 2: we not review a subjective call and a second yelo
26:37
Speaker 2: that can just destroy a whole game? You know again,
26:40
Speaker 2: I hate interre, I hate youve, but that'd be detalia
26:44
Speaker 2: a good game this weekend and we just blow it
26:48
Speaker 2: up because the system that we've brought in place, that
26:53
Speaker 2: is this groundbreaking technology, a fucking instant replaying culture. This var. No.
27:00
Speaker 2: In the rule book Rule thirty seven, subsection B, it
27:05
Speaker 2: says we can't fucking review the second yellow to make
27:10
Speaker 2: it a red. Why not why Why is that? I
27:14
Speaker 2: don't know justification. If somebody out there knows the justification
27:17
Speaker 2: for why that is, you can let us know because
27:20
Speaker 2: I don't know why that is because you just blow
27:22
Speaker 2: up again, you blow up a game. It's now ten
27:26
Speaker 2: v eleven and you know again, maybe this game could
27:30
Speaker 2: have ended in a tie with that, with those amount
27:34
Speaker 2: of players on the pitch, but ultimately it wasn't to be.
27:38
Speaker 2: Again for me, it's it's terrible. You know, we have,
27:42
Speaker 2: like you said, Nick, refing and culture is a hard thing,
27:46
Speaker 2: but we have guys upstairs in lisone fucking watching every
27:51
Speaker 2: damn movement, and no, we can't interfere with this because
27:56
Speaker 2: in subsection B it says, no, we can't fucking put
27:59
Speaker 2: our two cents into this and save the game rather
28:02
Speaker 2: than blowing it up. If I'm a fan of any
28:05
Speaker 2: of those teams in this case, you have it because
28:08
Speaker 2: they're the ones who got, you know, the short end
28:10
Speaker 2: of the stick. I would be furious because it can't
28:14
Speaker 2: be almost ten years with this, with this introduction that's
28:18
Speaker 2: supposed to help the game, and yet we're still dealing
28:22
Speaker 2: with these things. I even saw online maybe fucking instead
28:25
Speaker 2: of referees we should have AI fucking refing the game.
28:28
Speaker 3: Oh god, no, horrible, But you.
28:31
Speaker 2: Know what I mean, like, where where does this? Where
28:33
Speaker 2: does this end? Right? It's I think it was the
28:36
Speaker 2: footy coach. I saw the guys talking about it was
28:38
Speaker 2: it made me laugh, but so shout out to them.
28:40
Speaker 2: But you know, where where does this? Where does this go?
28:43
Speaker 2: Like we always have to have a big incident for
28:46
Speaker 2: them to change the rule, and then the next following
28:48
Speaker 2: year we're going to find something else that's not right
28:50
Speaker 2: and we're gonna have to change it again again. For me,
28:55
Speaker 2: there's there's multiple people at fault or thing, the factors
29:00
Speaker 2: at fault in this whole thing. Kolulu again, don't don't
29:06
Speaker 2: put yourself in a position to allow the ref to
29:09
Speaker 2: make a decision against you. I get, but it's a
29:14
Speaker 2: soft thing. He barely touches him, but SONI he barely
29:18
Speaker 2: touches him. Yes, he has his arm out. But again, guys,
29:22
Speaker 2: my dad's hit me harder than that, Like you know
29:24
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like we've all gott to hit harder
29:26
Speaker 2: than that growing up in the Italian household. Right, So
29:30
Speaker 2: uh that's for me, crazy la Penna right away? Why
29:35
Speaker 2: are you so trigger? Happy with the card. Why why
29:40
Speaker 2: would he be so trigger happy on the card Like
29:43
Speaker 2: for me, I I don't, I don't get it. Maybe
29:45
Speaker 2: you know again I didn't. I didn't watch the play live.
29:47
Speaker 2: So again, correct me if I'm wrong. Guys, if it
29:51
Speaker 2: happened behind him, if it happened he saw it in
29:52
Speaker 2: front of him, on the side of him, what peripheral
29:55
Speaker 2: he had, I don't know. But you have other referees
29:57
Speaker 2: to help you. You have the fucking the people upstairs
30:02
Speaker 2: in football, we say back in New York, right the
30:04
Speaker 2: replay in New York. These guys are in Misna. They
30:09
Speaker 2: have fucking every view possible. We have these cameras that
30:11
Speaker 2: can catch everything. You have help No now Monday morning quarterback,
30:16
Speaker 2: or we have to go to Rocky Uh explain that
30:19
Speaker 2: all the faults that happen, and they have to excuse themselves,
30:23
Speaker 2: and and and again. Nothing happens to these fucking these referees.
30:27
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, Bastoni. Again to Johnny's point,
30:32
Speaker 2: you know, playing the game, it's a shame that you know,
30:36
Speaker 2: this is how the game is. He he you know,
30:40
Speaker 2: he hits a heads up play because don't just to
30:44
Speaker 2: kind of given another analogy to what Johnny said about
30:47
Speaker 2: you know playing the game. I don't. I didn't see
30:50
Speaker 2: any of us, and we're not English, so that's probably
30:53
Speaker 2: why we didn't have this outrage. But when Giorgio Kieleen
30:56
Speaker 2: he pulls down Kayasaka right in the euro we were
31:00
Speaker 2: fucking jumping up and down because he knew what he
31:03
Speaker 2: was doing, committing a tactical foul, right, tactical foul for him,
31:06
Speaker 2: he looks like a genius because he makes that move.
31:09
Speaker 2: He's almost forty years old and he's fucking Mezad and
31:12
Speaker 2: you know he would have got burned and he makes
31:13
Speaker 2: a tactical foul. We're all praising that. Yeah, and that
31:17
Speaker 2: was and that's great. But again he's playing the game.
31:19
Speaker 2: So to Bastoni's I don't want to say credit because
31:22
Speaker 2: you're fucking you're soft, fucking playing that way. But again
31:26
Speaker 2: that it is what it is. He plays the game
31:29
Speaker 2: to Johnny's credit, to Johnny's point, right, and you know
31:32
Speaker 2: he throws himself down. But by him throwing himself down,
31:37
Speaker 2: there's a reaction from the referee that could have fucking
31:40
Speaker 2: just knowlled that right there, caught in the butt, right there,
31:43
Speaker 2: No foul, not no card play advantage, whatever the fucking
31:47
Speaker 2: whatever the situation was, or call foul no card Like,
31:50
Speaker 2: I don't see why he was so trick or happy
31:52
Speaker 2: with the card.
31:53
Speaker 1: Look, I don't know they they've given cards for simulation
31:56
Speaker 1: before that.
31:57
Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, funny thing, if anny thing you should
31:59
Speaker 2: have went, ye the way, I agree, And that's that
32:03
Speaker 2: was a bit of the outrage too. I saw online,
32:05
Speaker 2: you know, and again, everybody's gonna have their own opinions, right,
32:07
Speaker 2: and that's that's the whole that's the whole intent of
32:10
Speaker 2: all this. But I don't know, I think that the
32:16
Speaker 2: system of VAR is probably the biggest culprit in all
32:20
Speaker 2: this because not VAR the tool, but like the system
32:25
Speaker 2: in place of how we have to interpret things and
32:27
Speaker 2: the rule books behind it. That's what, in my opinion,
32:29
Speaker 2: that is what caused the most harm in all this,
32:33
Speaker 2: because it shouldn't be that nine, ten, eleven years later,
32:37
Speaker 2: we're still we're still not able to replace certain things
32:40
Speaker 2: that can just blow up a game and not put
32:43
Speaker 2: all this pressure, this added pressure on the one referee
32:47
Speaker 2: that has to, you know, keep keep the peace among
32:52
Speaker 2: twenty players. So twenty two players whatever it is plus yeah, right,
32:57
Speaker 2: Like the West goes on. But it's it's I think
33:01
Speaker 2: that's what's big, is that fault because listen, things happen
33:05
Speaker 2: in the match, players play the game as as Johnny
33:09
Speaker 2: alluded to earlier, and you know, and in the grand
33:14
Speaker 2: scheme of things, this this puts into further ahead in
33:19
Speaker 2: the push for the Scudetto. This puts a more of
33:21
Speaker 2: a damper on Juventus' current you know form I guess
33:25
Speaker 2: you will, and their hopes for for for top four.
33:29
Speaker 2: But it's and again it's a derby game and it
33:33
Speaker 2: just blows blows any good performance from any other player
33:38
Speaker 2: out of the water because of instances like this, And
33:40
Speaker 2: it's a shame that, you know, this is how it
33:43
Speaker 2: had to end. But as a rival fan like it.
33:46
Speaker 2: For me, it's it's it's comedic. But taking it off
33:50
Speaker 2: that bias, it's just it's crazy that we're in twenty
33:53
Speaker 2: twenty six and we're still talking about these types of instances.
33:56
Speaker 3: And I'll sympathize with event Vandini here because that is
33:59
Speaker 3: something that if what happened to me, I would be
34:01
Speaker 3: extremely pissed off. Trust me, I one hundred and ten
34:04
Speaker 3: percent and will be livid about it. But you know,
34:09
Speaker 3: it's at the end of the day. You know, he's
34:13
Speaker 3: just doing what anybody else would and given it a
34:15
Speaker 3: chance to get an advantage like that.
34:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, and again you know him celebrating like like
34:22
Speaker 2: Nick said, him celebrating, Okay, shame, I mean, I mean
34:26
Speaker 2: we've seen worse, in my opinion, the whole, the whole,
34:28
Speaker 2: like banish him from the national team, like for me,
34:31
Speaker 2: was fucking comedic, Like are you serious, Like these guys
34:34
Speaker 2: rather not make another World Cup? Like I don't get it,
34:37
Speaker 2: Like we're we're fucking two World Cups deep that we
34:40
Speaker 2: haven't made, Like we need all the help we can
34:42
Speaker 2: get to come come there in the march. So yeah,
34:47
Speaker 2: did you have to apologize to the press afterwards? I
34:50
Speaker 2: don't know. For me, it is what it is like
34:54
Speaker 2: if if you don't want these incidents to happen, they
34:57
Speaker 2: could have fucking outlawed and banished, fucking died in a
35:00
Speaker 2: long time ago in this sport if they really really
35:02
Speaker 2: wanted to. It hasn't been the case in twenty twenty
35:06
Speaker 2: now in twenty twenty six, I don't see it happening
35:08
Speaker 2: anytime soon. So we're gonna have to continue this way.
35:10
Speaker 2: But a shame on a shame on far and and
35:15
Speaker 2: and Lapendo too. Just controlling this game.
35:19
Speaker 1: Uh, one game where there wasn't as much controversy. It
35:22
Speaker 1: was our famous Dermy del Jenny and too too. I
35:25
Speaker 1: don't know, as I don't know if it's a good
35:27
Speaker 1: thing or bad thing. I mean, dropped points by both
35:29
Speaker 1: Napole and Roma, but at the same time Roma passes
35:33
Speaker 1: Juve in the standings. Goals from Donia Mallen two goals
35:37
Speaker 1: from Roma. I don't know how many that is now
35:39
Speaker 1: since moving over Leo Spininzola out of nowhere goal for Napoli.
35:43
Speaker 1: And then Alison Santos so not the goalkeeper Allison, but
35:46
Speaker 1: Brazilian striker Allison. Was it his first game, first game for.
35:52
Speaker 3: It was this third game with three game it already
35:55
Speaker 3: but I think yeah, but I think he's got two
35:57
Speaker 3: goals already for the team.
35:58
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, he already scored from Yeah, like.
36:02
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no.
36:04
Speaker 1: Hold on, Wikipedia is saying one game, one goal, but I.
36:07
Speaker 2: Don't know if it's updated.
36:09
Speaker 3: Okay, so hold on, I have it right here. For
36:12
Speaker 3: Alison Santos, he's played three games for Monopoly. He was
36:15
Speaker 3: bench versus Genoa. He played the city game against sorry,
36:19
Speaker 3: play the coopee tally game against Cobo, and then he
36:23
Speaker 3: played this game versus versus at Oma and he got
36:27
Speaker 3: a goal. Uh but yeah, fucking don Donielle Mallen. He's
36:33
Speaker 3: got four goals in.
36:36
Speaker 2: One six.
36:39
Speaker 3: He's got four goals and six appearances for NOMA right now, Okay.
36:43
Speaker 1: It's good news for the Bold community.
36:45
Speaker 3: Well yeah, good, But it's just it's so funny how
36:49
Speaker 3: both the newcomers for both these teams have been the
36:52
Speaker 3: ones to you know, step up for the clubs and
36:56
Speaker 3: get the w's, you know what I mean, or get
36:58
Speaker 3: the results or get the goals.
36:59
Speaker 2: You know.
37:00
Speaker 3: It's it's fascinating to me. Is this the best word
37:04
Speaker 3: I could say? It's probably the best way I can
37:05
Speaker 3: describe it, because you know, you got players really especially
37:10
Speaker 3: an a police case, right, you got players earlier this
37:13
Speaker 3: year that we're meant to be the striker. And you
37:17
Speaker 3: know Lukaku himself is you know, not playing the best obviously,
37:21
Speaker 3: being injured doesn't help for a good part of the season, right,
37:24
Speaker 3: and then Hoyland is just like he has his on
37:26
Speaker 3: off games.
37:28
Speaker 2: But Lorenzo Luca another one.
37:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, Lorenzo Luca. Now he's gone, he's uh, you got
37:35
Speaker 3: sold for the season. And then even now even for
37:39
Speaker 3: for Roma, right, it's like it's just like it's like, Okay, well,
37:43
Speaker 3: dolve BIG's injured, al Shwari is injured, he lost kone.
37:47
Speaker 3: Now it's like, okay, what am I gonna do? And
37:49
Speaker 3: then you get you get Malin. He's alone?
37:52
Speaker 2: Is he alone? Yeah? He's alone.
37:53
Speaker 3: From all he is alone.
37:56
Speaker 2: I think there might be an option in there, I
37:57
Speaker 2: from a mistaken.
37:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, But it's just it's just it's just so funny
38:02
Speaker 3: how it's like it's like if you would have told
38:04
Speaker 3: me at like at this like at the beginning of
38:07
Speaker 3: the year that the players and aptly are gonna start
38:09
Speaker 3: with that that started within the striker like for the strikers, right,
38:13
Speaker 3: won't be the starting strikers come half season. I'll be like,
38:15
Speaker 3: are you kidding me?
38:16
Speaker 1: Or I'd be like, what's.
38:17
Speaker 3: Going on here? What's going on here?
38:20
Speaker 2: You know?
38:21
Speaker 3: Still uh, Like if you're not, if you're if you're
38:26
Speaker 3: a purely Anopotly fan, this is not the result you wanted.
38:29
Speaker 3: If you're purely Automa fat, this is not the result
38:32
Speaker 3: that you want it.
38:33
Speaker 2: But if you're Johnny Cawley.
38:35
Speaker 3: This is acceptable. This is the absolute win for both sides.
38:42
Speaker 5: It's yes, you know, it's because because you know, both
38:47
Speaker 5: teams drop points, both teams still keep themselves in whatever
38:51
Speaker 5: race they're in, almost still was still in the fight
38:54
Speaker 5: for the top four monopoly is obviously on the outside
38:57
Speaker 5: looking in.
38:58
Speaker 3: For the school that though, but they're not officially out yet.
39:01
Speaker 3: Now I'm not saying I'm not saying that they're that
39:04
Speaker 3: that they are like, oh yo, we're still very stronggling
39:06
Speaker 3: the race. We're not.
39:08
Speaker 2: We're not what they're.
39:12
Speaker 3: Have the standings right here, what's thatcond I have the
39:15
Speaker 3: standings right here. They are eleven points back. They're not
39:20
Speaker 3: one hundred percent out there like eighty percent out.
39:24
Speaker 2: That's that's tough even for me right now with the
39:26
Speaker 2: result today seven still seven points back, it's tough. Was
39:29
Speaker 2: it thirteen games left? Well, no, what is it? Thirteen
39:33
Speaker 2: games left? I believe maybe it is.
39:36
Speaker 3: It is tough. Not fully out yet, but right now,
39:41
Speaker 3: like I said, I don't know what. I think Napoli
39:46
Speaker 3: just needs to put like it's it's just all hinges on.
39:51
Speaker 3: What is Antonio Conty going to do at the end
39:53
Speaker 3: of the year, Like you can get all these players.
39:54
Speaker 3: You can try to plug in these holes right now,
39:56
Speaker 3: you know, you can try to like, you know, patch
39:58
Speaker 3: up what you have. But at the end of the day, right,
40:03
Speaker 3: I think it just comes down to is Conte staying
40:06
Speaker 3: or not at the end of the year, right, if
40:08
Speaker 3: he's gone, I believe so too. I honestly believe that
40:11
Speaker 3: he's gone as well. So it starts off with that,
40:14
Speaker 3: and then it goes to it goes to, Okay, so
40:18
Speaker 3: if he's gone, where do we go from there? And
40:20
Speaker 3: who's gonna stay?
40:21
Speaker 2: Who's gonna go?
40:21
Speaker 3: Now that Conte leaves And in the case of Roma, Guesspini,
40:25
Speaker 3: it's like, okay, what do we build on from here?
40:27
Speaker 3: Like you know, the bell is gonna be gone? Right, yeah,
40:32
Speaker 3: you know, uh, then you're gonna probably have with him.
40:37
Speaker 3: There's a very very very good chance that you're probably
40:41
Speaker 3: gonna lose Soule. You're gonna you have maybe some faces
40:47
Speaker 3: that are gonna probably swap out. Like what's your system
40:49
Speaker 3: that you're gonna be building upon?
40:50
Speaker 2: So ah.
40:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, like like like Aroma is more hopeful than it
40:56
Speaker 3: is for Anopoly, and applete's more of it to put
40:58
Speaker 3: disappointment than to Roma.
40:59
Speaker 2: So if that's the situation, the one thing I would
41:02
Speaker 2: say is that like, regardless of who stays who goes,
41:06
Speaker 2: that shouldn't shy away of the fact of fighting till
41:08
Speaker 2: the end. I think they have no choice, especially not
41:12
Speaker 2: we now officially being in one competition a week similar
41:16
Speaker 2: to Milan, Right, you know, they're they're out of champions
41:19
Speaker 2: they're out of COPITAA. They're they're really focusing now on
41:23
Speaker 2: you know, top four or better obviously, right, So you know,
41:27
Speaker 2: regardless if we think Conte has gone in the summer,
41:31
Speaker 2: that shouldn't that shouldn't you know, hinder these guys to
41:34
Speaker 2: fight until the end. And again, the injury bug for
41:38
Speaker 2: Napoly this season obviously doesn't help. It doesn't help any
41:40
Speaker 2: any team, And you can, you can forecast that, but
41:44
Speaker 2: you can never really know what it feels like until
41:47
Speaker 2: until you're actually in it, in my opinion, so so
41:51
Speaker 2: that that does obviously hurt. But again no excuses. They
41:54
Speaker 2: have I think quality enough players to do well. You know,
42:01
Speaker 2: they obviously were able to kind of find a little
42:03
Speaker 2: bit of a dominant the rough, like I spoke about
42:05
Speaker 2: last week in Antonio Viergata, right, and and other players
42:08
Speaker 2: that you know, they kind of brought in and are
42:10
Speaker 2: and are playing well. So but yeah, again it's it's
42:15
Speaker 2: uh again for you as a as a as a
42:18
Speaker 2: single person, Johnny, Johnny W. Colley, it's a great result.
42:22
Speaker 2: But for every other person out there that's a fan
42:23
Speaker 2: of these teams, I agree with you. It's it's it's
42:26
Speaker 2: not the result you want and the pursuit of of
42:29
Speaker 2: top four and whatever else comes with that. So but again,
42:35
Speaker 2: I think there are building blocks for both teams no
42:37
Speaker 2: matter what ends up happening come the summertime. But I
42:40
Speaker 2: guess it's remaining to be seen.
42:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just it just it's I think after like,
42:46
Speaker 3: I think the writing was on the wall after the
42:49
Speaker 3: Champions League result where you're like, yeah, like Pernapoly, it
42:53
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, this is not gonna bode well for
42:57
Speaker 3: the team, you know, especially with the start of the
42:59
Speaker 3: Champions League season, and turned out to be true, and
43:04
Speaker 3: now you're just like, Okay, well you knew that the
43:07
Speaker 3: Kopetalia mishap was going to happen because it was just
43:09
Speaker 3: it just it was just going to you know what
43:11
Speaker 3: I mean, Like it was it was it was blatantly
43:13
Speaker 3: obvious that there was going to be like I messed
43:16
Speaker 3: up with this season. A lot of hiccups.
43:18
Speaker 2: So well, we know, content can't fucking jruggle multiple multiple competitions,
43:24
Speaker 2: especially Champions League's he's you like, again, great coach, don't
43:28
Speaker 2: get me wrong, you know, for for for the league
43:31
Speaker 2: and all that. But other than that, man, he's he's
43:34
Speaker 2: shown time and time again that I don't know what
43:37
Speaker 2: it is no matter what club he's been on, it
43:40
Speaker 2: just always something goes wrong in champions or other competitions
43:44
Speaker 2: that he just can't get over the hump. So it's
43:46
Speaker 2: a shame. I guess it was expected. And again, it's
43:50
Speaker 2: so hard to go back to back in in in
43:52
Speaker 2: pro sports, you know, winning the winning the championship, you know,
43:55
Speaker 2: twice in a row. So listen, it was always gonna
43:58
Speaker 2: be tough for not putting again with the added with
44:00
Speaker 2: the added pressure of the schedule, it was not gonna
44:04
Speaker 2: be a cake walk. And you know, obviously other competition
44:06
Speaker 2: getting better and you know, trying to reclaim what's theirs,
44:10
Speaker 2: it was always gonna be tough. So yeah, I listen,
44:13
Speaker 2: I think it's it makes for an exciting fight to
44:17
Speaker 2: the finish for the top four because I think that
44:19
Speaker 2: like we've spoken about time and time again on the show.
44:22
Speaker 2: I think it'll be a fight to the finish for
44:23
Speaker 2: top four and ultimately probably maybe the Scudetto, depending how
44:27
Speaker 2: much further or closer the teams get to in there.
44:30
Speaker 2: So well, I guess I have to wait and see.
44:34
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, another game that had a implication in the
44:40
Speaker 1: Scudetto race today nelon Como. I mean we talked about
44:42
Speaker 1: it at the start of the show, Isslan fan.
44:46
Speaker 2: Uh.
44:46
Speaker 1: You know, one hand must be disappointing to drop points
44:49
Speaker 1: that was this was the game in hand. But at
44:50
Speaker 1: the same time, it's and we know the third team there,
44:54
Speaker 1: team that's battling to the top four. It's probably no
44:57
Speaker 1: different than drawing Roma. You've lazo uh type. So you know,
45:04
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's mixed emotions or what are
45:06
Speaker 1: your thoughts.
45:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know they're a good team. They'll get me
45:10
Speaker 2: wrong and shown it, you know, these last these last
45:13
Speaker 2: couple of years. But for me, it's the way they
45:15
Speaker 2: the way they dropped the points. You know, you want
45:18
Speaker 2: to say you fucking fought hard and went all the
45:20
Speaker 2: way to tow and you know you you came up
45:22
Speaker 2: a bit short and you draw the game, you know,
45:24
Speaker 2: one one or nil, nil two to whatever the case was.
45:28
Speaker 2: Their case is fine, but the way they wast the
45:32
Speaker 2: way they lotched the points then drop the points, stay
45:34
Speaker 2: the two massive points because again, you win this game,
45:37
Speaker 2: you stay that the five back from in there, and
45:41
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks it's to there being you have
45:42
Speaker 2: a chance to kind of potentially close that gap. Even
45:45
Speaker 2: more so, it's a shame because the goal that was
45:49
Speaker 2: conceded was was uh fluke, rare mistake by Mike Manya, right,
45:54
Speaker 2: and he kind of gives that goal to to Nico
45:56
Speaker 2: Paz that has been in a little bit of a slump,
45:58
Speaker 2: you know, scoring wise, and he gives some uh you know,
46:02
Speaker 2: a ball on a silver platter and he's able to
46:05
Speaker 2: slot that in. So and you know, for a team
46:10
Speaker 2: under sec Fabri guys that is known to create a
46:13
Speaker 2: lot and and to really put the pressure on Yeah,
46:16
Speaker 2: they had some chances, but nowhere near the chances that
46:20
Speaker 2: we've seen them deliver in the past. And to to
46:23
Speaker 2: merit scoring you know, all kinds of goals. So for me,
46:26
Speaker 2: it's it's it's the fashion that Melon dropped the points
46:29
Speaker 2: that that really personally pissed me. Off and I know
46:33
Speaker 2: Neon fans just outside of that, outside of myself as well,
46:37
Speaker 2: So again have to be better. This is the game
46:41
Speaker 2: in hand. Like you said, Nick, that was was crucial
46:44
Speaker 2: the rescheduled match, So it's uh, you know, it's gonna
46:49
Speaker 2: still be an uphill battle, uh to to catch in there.
46:53
Speaker 2: And again you know it's I think it's what March
46:56
Speaker 2: eighth is the dead be there's two match days in
46:58
Speaker 2: between now and then it's maximum points needed for me
47:05
Speaker 2: wanting to have a chance to somewhat fight to catch
47:11
Speaker 2: inter at this point. So again not over, but you know,
47:16
Speaker 2: with thirteen match days left, again, the season still has
47:19
Speaker 2: some some juice in it, but you know that juice
47:24
Speaker 2: is kind of short, you know, so we slowly wearing
47:26
Speaker 2: out as the weeks go on. So again just a
47:31
Speaker 2: bit of you know, shenanigans in this game too as well,
47:37
Speaker 2: with the whole the whole shark fabergas you know, kind
47:41
Speaker 2: of following uh solid makers on the touch line there
47:44
Speaker 2: he kind of grabbed hold of his of his jersey
47:46
Speaker 2: and kind of prevented him from from getting to a
47:50
Speaker 2: ball and whatnot, and the whole kerfuffle with with Allegri
47:53
Speaker 2: coming over and you know, words were thrown and things
47:57
Speaker 2: like that. I don't know how allegri he is doing.
47:59
Speaker 2: Anyone that get it's away with gets away gets sent
48:02
Speaker 2: off in terms of both managers. I know there was
48:04
Speaker 2: other people on Como's touch line that got sent off.
48:07
Speaker 2: But if you throw out all agree for his reaction
48:11
Speaker 2: to what was committed, you know, logic dictates dictates that
48:15
Speaker 2: you send out this the guy who committed the the
48:19
Speaker 2: infraction as well in in Faber guys. So a weird
48:23
Speaker 2: one for me, you know. I I saw that they
48:27
Speaker 2: were having a bit of beef in the pressers as well,
48:29
Speaker 2: and uh, similar to how Bastonia had to come out
48:32
Speaker 2: and apologize and looked like Faber Guys did the same.
48:34
Speaker 2: So a weird one in Italian football. This this this
48:38
Speaker 2: weekend and this this match day. I guess you can
48:41
Speaker 2: say almost a similar situation with not being able to
48:45
Speaker 2: review the this second yellow incident with soundmakers as well.
48:51
Speaker 2: Who was on the yellow fouled? I forget the player
48:55
Speaker 2: on Como crowd. The players went bananas and no card
49:00
Speaker 2: was shown and ultimately no red card was shown and
49:03
Speaker 2: again no var was interfering to reverse that call. So
49:08
Speaker 2: just again a weird one for for for Culture this
49:12
Speaker 2: this this time around. But myon needs to be better
49:15
Speaker 2: in grand scheme of things. I know I've probably said
49:19
Speaker 2: this multiple times on the show. This formation with the
49:23
Speaker 2: players that we have in the attack that are not
49:27
Speaker 2: in their correct positions still baffles me. As we go
49:30
Speaker 2: on to match day twenty five again, it's it's brought
49:35
Speaker 2: us this far, so I guess like we're probably going
49:37
Speaker 2: to stick with it. But having in kun Ku and
49:41
Speaker 2: and Leo play up top together it doesn't seem to work.
49:45
Speaker 2: I know Leo is not one hundred percent fit. He
49:48
Speaker 2: makes a hell of up a play on his goal today,
49:51
Speaker 2: you know, chipping Jan buttez uh In goal for for Como.
49:56
Speaker 2: But again, other than that, some opportunities that went that
50:01
Speaker 2: went by me. I just need to be able to
50:03
Speaker 2: capitalize better and ultimately a result like this uh is
50:08
Speaker 2: is the punishment you get for not being able to
50:12
Speaker 2: to be the better team, uh to to claim all
50:15
Speaker 2: three points. So you know, go on this weekend. I
50:18
Speaker 2: think it's Podma on Sunday, So again a team that
50:21
Speaker 2: is already given us problems in the first in the
50:25
Speaker 2: first matchup of the year, so we'll see if they're
50:29
Speaker 2: able to to to bounce back but still undefeated. Somehow,
50:33
Speaker 2: it doesn't help when you're not picking up maximum points
50:35
Speaker 2: every every time out, but you know, still undefeated. I
50:38
Speaker 2: think it's on twenty three, twenty four games now undefeated. Ultimately,
50:44
Speaker 2: we would like some most some of those draws turned
50:46
Speaker 2: into uh, turned into victories, and we would be a
50:49
Speaker 2: bit closer to inter at the top. But it's gonna
50:52
Speaker 2: be a grind, like I said, until the till the
50:54
Speaker 2: till the end of the fight to the finish, and I
50:57
Speaker 2: hope I'm hoping to a leg his point at the
51:00
Speaker 2: beginning of the season. We'll see where we are in
51:03
Speaker 2: March if we're in punching distance or not, to see
51:06
Speaker 2: really where we can go and finish this season. So
51:10
Speaker 2: right now, to Max's point, we're almost there or halfway
51:16
Speaker 2: through February, and we'll see where we are come the
51:20
Speaker 2: beginning of March. But if we're in punching distance, I
51:23
Speaker 2: hope they really go for it, then we'll see, uh,
51:26
Speaker 2: we'll see what that takes us.
51:30
Speaker 1: I think that will do it for us, guys, unless
51:32
Speaker 1: there's another city game you guys want to talk about
51:35
Speaker 1: before we wrap it up.
51:38
Speaker 2: Not that I know what were the results. I have
51:40
Speaker 2: to bring it if you want.
51:41
Speaker 1: To meet them off. I mean, I know, Milan, you
51:44
Speaker 1: know you're talking about me on and b Pisahina got
51:47
Speaker 1: the win against Como, which is surprising, to nothing in
51:50
Speaker 1: Lato Parma to one, Verona about it bottom of the table.
51:54
Speaker 1: So Solo continuing their climb up two one win over
51:59
Speaker 1: Cremin is a genuine exciting zero was a withdraw, Bologna
52:02
Speaker 1: get back, got back on the win, Callum to one
52:04
Speaker 1: over Trino and the thrilling Monday night you to nothing Overcality.
52:10
Speaker 1: I mean, same old except you know with the upside
52:15
Speaker 1: went over Como.
52:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think Keen got on the score sheet
52:18
Speaker 2: there from mistake.
52:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I know it was it. Uh Cone scored
52:24
Speaker 1: not this weekend. I think it might be a few
52:27
Speaker 1: weekends ago already. I don't think we had a chance
52:28
Speaker 1: to talk about it. But Corny, I know, uh, he
52:32
Speaker 1: extended it. He extended or made permanent his move to
52:35
Speaker 1: so swallow. He's yeah, this is exactly the type season
52:37
Speaker 1: he needed, that resurgence after his struggle at Marseille. Left
52:41
Speaker 1: to see it, and you know we need to see
52:43
Speaker 1: him do well. As Canadian fans, right, because we're gonna
52:46
Speaker 1: have to cheer for him on June twelf right, we
52:48
Speaker 1: might not have it.
52:49
Speaker 2: We might have not have a choice if we're allowed.
52:51
Speaker 2: I don't know if we're allowed to cheer up. Yeah,
52:53
Speaker 2: yeah no. On the corny point again, happy for him, obviously,
52:57
Speaker 2: I think all three of us can say that. Definitely,
52:59
Speaker 2: how happy to see he is Malcone doing doing well
53:03
Speaker 2: and again a shock move that we didn't really expect.
53:05
Speaker 2: But happy that the the deal becomes permanent in in
53:10
Speaker 2: our league right in the league that we that we
53:12
Speaker 2: love the follow and that we that we support dearly.
53:15
Speaker 2: So you know, again happy for him that he's finding
53:19
Speaker 2: form in a World Cup year at SA Swolo. You
53:23
Speaker 2: know we'll take it as as SETI fans, right, So
53:27
Speaker 2: obviously a big shout out to him, and again that
53:28
Speaker 2: goes to all these players that are really playing for
53:33
Speaker 2: if it be World Cup spots or or or what
53:36
Speaker 2: have you, that you know are trying to get to
53:38
Speaker 2: the World Cup. You know, seeing Ken get on the
53:40
Speaker 2: score shoet again for me is a plus. I know
53:43
Speaker 2: it's been few and far between this year after the
53:47
Speaker 2: great season he had last season last year in terms
53:50
Speaker 2: of goal scoring. Obviously it hasn't been at the level
53:53
Speaker 2: of last year. But you know, seeing him gaining some
53:57
Speaker 2: confidence as we approach March, in the march here and
54:01
Speaker 2: in these uh in these playoffs, is all the is
54:05
Speaker 2: all the better, right and and again we can shoot
54:07
Speaker 2: on inter as well, but like we did at the beginning.
54:10
Speaker 2: But you know, Pureesposi though to another one, right, getting
54:13
Speaker 2: getting his moments of shining right for inter and scoring
54:17
Speaker 2: goals and and producing at a high level. And all
54:22
Speaker 2: these Italian players that are maybe fighting for a selection
54:26
Speaker 2: by Gatuzzo come March. You know, these are the weeks
54:30
Speaker 2: ahead that are that are excuse me, that are going
54:33
Speaker 2: to be so crucial for for those potential selections. And
54:37
Speaker 2: I don't know that's that's what I would say, so
54:41
Speaker 2: to to Fjordentina, you know with Keen, you know, getting
54:44
Speaker 2: getting on the score sheet and you know other other
54:47
Speaker 2: results you know, Atalanta or what have you, and Bologna,
54:52
Speaker 2: right like these these players that are these like fringe
54:55
Speaker 2: players and or red Gatta, right like we spoke about
54:59
Speaker 2: these past couple of weeks now, like you know, you
55:03
Speaker 2: see these you see these posts on on Instagram or
55:05
Speaker 2: on socials, you know, having having dinner with with these players,
55:09
Speaker 2: like he's going to get called up, like you know
55:12
Speaker 2: what the what the like to play on the pitch,
55:15
Speaker 2: do the talking. And we've always said that, I think
55:16
Speaker 2: on this show, and I know Nick's been a big
55:18
Speaker 2: advocate on it, especially when it comes to selections of
55:22
Speaker 2: of of team, of of international teams. Right like, if
55:28
Speaker 2: you're the hot man in form, you know, I don't
55:31
Speaker 2: see why you can you can? You know what these
55:33
Speaker 2: guys out. Obviously there's a restriction of how.
55:35
Speaker 3: Many if you're the though, well.
55:39
Speaker 2: Are beautiful as long as you're on form, and I
55:41
Speaker 2: don't care what you are, six toes or you could
55:44
Speaker 2: have two toes, I don't care what you have. But
55:46
Speaker 2: as long as you're doing producing, you can, you can,
55:49
Speaker 2: you can have a spot on the team. But you know,
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Speaker 2: we've spent time and time again, I just hope, you know,
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Speaker 2: from now until the March window there these Italian players
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Speaker 2: continue to produce. That's one thing that we kind of
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Speaker 2: want to see and I just hope, you know, Gatuzo
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Speaker 2: makes the right decisions and bring on players that can
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Speaker 2: maybe bring a different edge that we haven't seen. You know,
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Speaker 2: the regardass of the world, you know, the Marco Palestras
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Speaker 2: of the world. We see Bartisagi playing in week week
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Speaker 2: in and week out from you on, you know, doing
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Speaker 2: relatively well at his young age. You know, Coyote in
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Speaker 2: uh in In in England right playing point extremely well.
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Speaker 2: I saw, I saw a clip man. His throwings are
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Speaker 2: like enough to enough to to get him a spot
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Speaker 2: just by his thrownes, Like it's ridiculous. This guy has
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Speaker 2: a launch I've never seen before. So again, that's maybe
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Speaker 2: how I wanted to wrap it up. And I know
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Speaker 2: nobody will be this legend because it's his birthday today, right,
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Speaker 2: Roberto Bajio right to his birthday today, So we wish
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Speaker 2: him all the best, but nobody will come close to him.
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Speaker 2: But if you could do a fraction of what he
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Speaker 2: did to make it to this national team, to get
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Speaker 2: us to the World Cup, I think'st Italian fans will
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Speaker 2: take it. So I guess that's what we'll leave it
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Speaker 2: on tonight.
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