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Star Wars Alliance Eva Mendes in Starfighter? Dark Legends Review CCCXI · Star Wars Alliance

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  Speaker 1: The Force will be with you.
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  Speaker 2: Always. Hello, everyone.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of Star Wars Alliance, your
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  Speaker 1: home on the Geek Ultimate Alliance podcast network for any
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  Speaker 1: and all things Star Wars. I'm your host, like always,
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  Speaker 1: and with me, like always, is Clay. Clay, how are
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  Speaker 1: you doing today?
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  Speaker 3: Today, I'm doing pretty good, not gonna lie.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, as you can see in the title, we
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  Speaker 4: had to read Dark Legend and also a little bit
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  Speaker 4: of Insider. We're doing another recording right after this, doing
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  Speaker 4: our Patreon stuff. And I got to finish both of
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  Speaker 4: those literally today. Like, we.
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  Speaker 4: We had to get out of the house due to
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  Speaker 4: some stuff that was going on in the house. And
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  Speaker 4: so I was like, oh, okay, that's going to ruin
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  Speaker 4: all of my plans to sit down and read. And
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  Speaker 4: then Abby was like, you know what? We'll go to
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  Speaker 4: your grandparents' house. Amberlynn can play. You go into one
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  Speaker 4: of their dark rooms and just sit down and read.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, cool.
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  Speaker 3: And so I got to sit down for like three
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  Speaker 3: hours and read. So we're going to.
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  Speaker 4: Be talking about that for sure. But, yeah, other than that,
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  Speaker 4: it's been a pretty good week.
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  Speaker 3: I will say this.
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  Speaker 4: If I am slurring my words, it's not because I
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  Speaker 4: have been drinking. It is because I am dog tired, guys.
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  Speaker 4: I have found the addiction of online gaming again. And
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  Speaker 4: it's not good, Kate. It's not good. So I saw
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  Speaker 4: a video the other day. that encompasses my life perfectly
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  Speaker 4: right now. It's like this, it's this dude, he is
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  Speaker 4: like knitting and it's like somber, peaceful music. And the
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  Speaker 4: caption says, I'm trying to work on my sleep schedule,
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  Speaker 4: but there's just something so peaceful about 11 PM through
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  Speaker 4: 4 AM. And like, I don't know if you've hit
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  Speaker 4: that stage. I don't think you have time to, to
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  Speaker 4: be completely honest, but like, With a child, especially with
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  Speaker 4: new parents, they've done studies about how there's this revenge
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  Speaker 4: sleep thing where you try to get some of that
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  Speaker 4: time back that you've had to deal with work and,
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  Speaker 4: of course, family time.
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  Speaker 3: And you're like, okay, but what about me time?
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  Speaker 4: I think I have found that time, but it's unfortunately
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  Speaker 4: with online gaming.
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  Speaker 1: Remember how hard we worked to get you on a
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  Speaker 1: sleep schedule?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I know.
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  Speaker 4: I have regressed three years. Uh, genuinely it's so bad. Uh,
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  Speaker 4: but yeah, I, I, I feel okay, but I can
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  Speaker 4: feel it behind my eyes.
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  Speaker 3: That it's just like, no, really go to sleep. So, uh, I, I,
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  Speaker 3: I need, I need help.
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  Speaker 4: Somebody help me.
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  Speaker 1: Um, Do I need to come over and unplug your
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  Speaker 1: Ethernet cable, your Wi-Fi? Run over it with a lawnmower.
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  Speaker 4: I genuinely feel like, because there was even a time, again,
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  Speaker 4: right when you were deciding to kind of get away
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  Speaker 4: with social media, I was kind of doing the same thing.
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  Speaker 4: And we were both kind of like, okay, we're having
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  Speaker 4: a little bit more family time. We're having a good
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  Speaker 4: sleep schedule. We're not so much on Twitter and everything else.
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  Speaker 4: I just need to go back to that. That's what
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  Speaker 4: I need to do. Definitely need to go back to that.
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  Speaker 1: It's good for you people.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: So we have some fun things to talk about today.
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  Speaker 1: We have Eva Mendez. We have Starfighter Budget. We have
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  Speaker 1: some more video game conversations. And we are doing our
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  Speaker 1: Halloween episode where, like Clay said, we are talking about
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  Speaker 1: George Mann's Dark Legends.
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  Speaker 3: I am so jealous of you having that.
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  Speaker 1: I will say like my biggest critique right now, that's
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  Speaker 1: like not a spoiler and you can't really see it,
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  Speaker 1: but the pages are like torn at the edge to
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  Speaker 1: give it like that manuscript.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. So, so that was something that I will reiterate
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  Speaker 4: again when it comes to our actual review of the book,
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  Speaker 4: but it's essentially like, a goosebumps book in the star
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  Speaker 4: Wars universe. Like if you, if you've ever read the
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  Speaker 4: old goosebumps books, they're kind of like have that like
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  Speaker 4: stereotypical horror in them.
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  Speaker 3: Like that's what it is.
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  Speaker 4: And we'll elaborate a little bit more, but let's go
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  Speaker 4: ahead and talk about some of the news first. Um,
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  Speaker 4: I want to go ahead and real quick, I want
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  Speaker 4: to talk about the video game stuff first. I think
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  Speaker 4: that is, uh, kind of small and in between, um,
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  Speaker 4: Of course, we've had two really big releases with Zero
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  Speaker 4: Company and Galactic Racer.
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  Speaker 3: It's been really, really doing well.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody's super hyped about the now in development Battlefront 3.
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  Speaker 4: And of course, all of that hype has decided to
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  Speaker 4: go crashing down.
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  Speaker 3: And I know Katie can't say much about this subject.
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  Speaker 1: But crashing down.
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  Speaker 3: Due to rumors, yes, but suggestion is a really big thing.
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  Speaker 4: There is a really good article that I really do
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  Speaker 4: highly recommend everybody go and read. It is on Vertical Slice,
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  Speaker 4: an article written by Chris Kerr. The article is titled,
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  Speaker 4: I Don't Want to Work at This Place Anymore, EA
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  Speaker 4: Worker's mismanagement, and corporate greed after mass layoffs. A lot
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  Speaker 4: of stuff is going on in EA. EA is partially
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  Speaker 4: owned by, of course, Paramount and all of that mess
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  Speaker 4: over there and the money and how it kind of
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  Speaker 4: separates things.
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  Speaker 3: It's a big mess.
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  Speaker 1: And if you're on the screen here, guys, welcome.
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  Speaker 3: We've got.
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  Speaker 1: several people, it looks like.
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  Speaker 3: Yes. Hi, Tegan. Hello, Tegan.
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  Speaker 4: EA is heavily pushing generative AI in the development of
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  Speaker 4: their games, which likely means their future Star Wars games
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  Speaker 4: as well. This, of course, is a huge bummer of
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  Speaker 4: news considering how much success They received and how much
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  Speaker 4: critical acclaim they have received. And I say they, I
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  Speaker 4: mean like the Star Wars genre of gaming.
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  Speaker 1: And I.
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  Speaker 4: Like freaking Zero Company. You know, it had kind of
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  Speaker 4: everything stacked against it. The layoffs happened before they even
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  Speaker 4: launched and all this other stuff.
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  Speaker 3: But it was still a great game that they made.
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  Speaker 4: They had a huge success and they're able to kind
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  Speaker 4: of build things back up again.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if.
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  Speaker 4: That kind of quote-unquote recovery will happen with EA knowing
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  Speaker 4: that they have willingly quote-unquote the company, not necessarily the
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  Speaker 4: actual creators, willingly put ai into these games and like
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  Speaker 4: that is again just like a huge bummer for me
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  Speaker 4: to hear uh but katie like do you have any
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  Speaker 4: opinion about the idea of ea heavily pushing generative.
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  Speaker 1: Ai in creative generative ai sucks generative ai is not
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  Speaker 1: going anywhere the biggest push we can make guys right
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  Speaker 1: now is to push for it to not be in
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  Speaker 1: creative spaces so whether that means that ea does it
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  Speaker 1: on the back end and then all of the graphics
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  Speaker 1: and front end development is done uh by hand like
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  Speaker 1: that would be my preference because unfortunately it is the
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  Speaker 1: reality right now like It's not going anywhere for a
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  Speaker 1: good five years at least. And especially with Anthropic going public,
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  Speaker 1: like all of this stuff, like it's just going to
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  Speaker 1: keep spinning. So the hope would be that people are
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  Speaker 1: still coming in and doing the graphics by hand. But
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  Speaker 1: I hate it. But it is what it is.
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  Speaker 4: So I don't know how much truth there is to it,
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  Speaker 4: but I believe it was either yesterday or over the weekend.
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  Speaker 4: I was randomly scrolling and people were saying that the
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  Speaker 4: AI bubble in China was bursting.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, interesting.
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  Speaker 3: This weekend.
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  Speaker 4: And so I'm like... wait, does that mean that the
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  Speaker 4: US AI bubble is going to be bursting anytime soon?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, don't you mean super intelligence?
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  Speaker 4: Don't even get me started.
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  Speaker 3: We're not entirely sure how.
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  Speaker 4: It'll correlate or even if what I was seeing on
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  Speaker 4: the internet at that time was actually true.
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  Speaker 3: I need to do a little bit more research on it.
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  Speaker 3: But I will say this talk about creative spaces. We
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  Speaker 3: hear podcasts. We're creatives over at geek verse.
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  Speaker 4: I do want to give them a lot of props
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  Speaker 4: for what they are going to be doing in exactly
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  Speaker 4: two weeks. I do believe.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, is it two weeks? I thought it was next week.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, it is next week. The 7th. It is next
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  Speaker 3: week on the 7th.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I was like, is it on my calendar wrong?
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no. Sorry. My bad.
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  Speaker 4: On the 7th, of course, they have their annual charity stream,
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  Speaker 4: which I believe they name.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, gosh.
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  Speaker 4: What is it called?
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  Speaker 1: Extra Life?
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  Speaker 3: Extra.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the Extra Life stream. Sorry.
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  Speaker 2: Um.
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  Speaker 4: And so if you guys want to watch that, it's
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  Speaker 4: a 24 hour stream. They do amazing stuff over there.
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  Speaker 4: And I've had the privilege of course, hosting trivia. I've played,
• 11:24
  Speaker 4: I've been a part of their trivia. Travis, I think, gosh,
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  Speaker 4: it's been about four years now, maybe even five years now.
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  Speaker 4: We once were, he challenged me at a, Oh gosh,
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  Speaker 4: what is the game? I can't even remember the game.
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  Speaker 3: It's been so long.
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  Speaker 4: We had some beef. Travis and I, we've had a history.
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  Speaker 3: We had a history.
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  Speaker 4: We were going back and forth, and he's like, you
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  Speaker 4: know what? Let's just have it out here on the stream.
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  Speaker 4: That was a lot of fun. I haven't played that
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  Speaker 4: game in years, probably since.
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  Speaker 3: Rocket League. It was Rocket League.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Had a lot of fun doing that. But speaking of
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  Speaker 3: cars racing... Star Wars. Taylor, talking to you now.
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  Speaker 4: I finally beat tour three.
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  Speaker 3: Finally.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't had a chance to go back and play it.
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  Speaker 3: I have finally beaten this game. And may I say, I.
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  Speaker 4: Think I am pretty bad-ass.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 4: I have to toot my own horn again. I felt
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  Speaker 4: like a pod racer. God playing tour three compared to
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  Speaker 4: losing 17 different times on tour one to finally get
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  Speaker 4: to tour three. Nobody can beat me. And I am
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  Speaker 4: going to challenge Taylor now. Taylor, you, we, we, we
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  Speaker 4: started off good. We started off good in the discord.
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  Speaker 4: you know, giving me pointers and stuff. I like kind
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  Speaker 4: of rubbed me the wrong way. I'm like, Hey, I
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  Speaker 4: can do this myself, you know? But now that I've
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  Speaker 4: actually beaten tour three and you know, I was over
• 13:21
  Speaker 4: here saying, Oh, starting tours one for the seventh time.
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  Speaker 3: You're like, Oh, I've already beaten it. Okay. Good for you, man.
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  Speaker 3: Good for you.
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  Speaker 4: But now I want to put pedal to the metal.
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  Speaker 4: And I want to challenge you, Taylor, to a Galactic
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  Speaker 4: Racer pod race. And I'm going to say, see, I
• 13:50
  Speaker 4: was going to say, hey, let's do bikes. I need bikes.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no. I'm going to say, choose your best
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  Speaker 3: pod racer. I don't even care which one you got, Taylor.
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  Speaker 3: Let's do it.
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  Speaker 4: I don't even care which one you got. Because I'm
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  Speaker 4: still going to beat it. Doesn't matter what map. Doesn't
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  Speaker 4: matter what ride. Doesn't matter what character. I got you.
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  Speaker 4: And I will win. I got you this year. What
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  Speaker 4: about me? Hey, Katie, if you.
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  Speaker 3: Want to catch the smoke. If you want to catch
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  Speaker 3: the smoke. I can do it.
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  Speaker 1: I beat tour one and tour two before you did.
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  Speaker 2: Damn.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 3: Fatal three-way match between the three of us.
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  Speaker 1: Let's do it.
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  Speaker 3: Ball's in your court. You can accept or not. Charity
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  Speaker 3: stream is one week away. I'll be there.
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  Speaker 1: I'll be there.
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  Speaker 4: Will you?
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  Speaker 3: Come on, Taylor. You can do it. Let me know.
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  Speaker 3: Let us know. Let us know.
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  Speaker 1: And on that note, Forbes has reported the Starfighter budgets,
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  Speaker 1: at least the production budgets. We're looking, Clay, we're looking
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  Speaker 1: at $ 226. 5 million before tax credit.
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  Speaker 3: This is before the tax credit, right?
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  Speaker 1: Tax credit, just for everybody's reference, puts us at $ 175 million.
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  Speaker 1: only slightly above the Mandalorian and Grogu, which costs grand
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  Speaker 1: total $ 165 million. This number does not include post-production costs. Important.
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  Speaker 4: So, it's more than Mandalorian and Grogu, less than Force Awakens.
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  Speaker 1: Currently, yes. So currently, at the time of where this
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  Speaker 1: budget was taken, the only Star Wars production to cost
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  Speaker 1: more than Starfighter at this same point in time is
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  Speaker 1: The Rise of Skywalker.
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  Speaker 4: Is The Rise of Skywalker?
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. I.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so.
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  Speaker 1: I am.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't know if this is like a toxic
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  Speaker 4: trait of mine. I don't even know if this take
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  Speaker 4: is toxic, but I think that there's some ways that
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  Speaker 4: it can be. I am the type of person that
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  Speaker 4: always says, go big or go home. And I think
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  Speaker 4: that we've said it plenty of times. They put Mandu
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  Speaker 4: and Grogu on the big screen as a, hey, we
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  Speaker 4: haven't been in theaters for a while. Let's have a
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  Speaker 4: soft open for Starfighter. That's what our thought process has
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  Speaker 4: always been. They are doing a soft open back to
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  Speaker 4: theaters so that way the bigger opening can come up
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  Speaker 4: right after.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that's this.
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  Speaker 1: And clearly we know nothing else is filming at this point.
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  Speaker 3: Correct. I've seen some people say.
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  Speaker 4: They saw this 226 budget and they were like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: and this is why Disney will always fail at Star Wars.
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  Speaker 3: What are you talking about?
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  Speaker 4: And I feel like these people say such vague things
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  Speaker 4: for both sides, for both sides of the argument, which
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  Speaker 4: is even more stupid. Because what are you wanting? Are
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  Speaker 4: you wanting them to go so low so that way
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  Speaker 4: they make huge margins? Or are you wanting them to
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  Speaker 4: go literally all out crazy and risk losing the money
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  Speaker 4: to where we don't get any more Star Wars? Like,
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  Speaker 4: you have to be reasonable in the idea of, okay,
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  Speaker 4: and again, all we know is For this movie so far.
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  Speaker 3: Because I don't even think.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure they have put out a general synopsis.
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  Speaker 3: I haven't looked at it. Or at least I don't
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  Speaker 3: remember us talking about it. Ryan Gosling.
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  Speaker 4: Somewhat of a outlaw-ish type of character. Is going to
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  Speaker 4: get into some sort of big mess. Lightsabers are involved.
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  Speaker 4: And it's a Star Wars film. You need somewhat of
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  Speaker 4: a bigger budget to portray the feeling of Star Wars.
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  Speaker 4: Even the way that we've been saying that we want
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  Speaker 4: genre within Star Wars, I would still want them to
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  Speaker 4: have a budget and not try to make bukus of
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  Speaker 4: money and then at the very end be like, oh, look,
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  Speaker 4: there's the Death Star. You know?
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  Speaker 1: Correct.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. And to put it in perspective, Doomsday is looking
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  Speaker 1: at a $ 400 million production budget. So, not the worst.
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  Speaker 1: By any means. Yeah, the synopsis is a very small...
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  Speaker 1: Rogue Ryan Gosling's character is.
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  Speaker 1: It has to go on an adventure basically um so
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  Speaker 1: it's not a huge synopsis i mean we guys we
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  Speaker 1: don't even have a trailer yet disney has got to
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  Speaker 1: start marketing this.
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  Speaker 4: Thing official trailer official.
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  Speaker 1: Official trailer you're right official trailer um consider this a
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  Speaker 1: bad budget, especially when we're looking at how much inflation
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  Speaker 1: has risen between the sequel trilogy and now. I do
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  Speaker 1: think that if you had hired more unknown actors to
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  Speaker 1: do this, you would have been looking at a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of a less cost. But you've got people like
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  Speaker 1: Matt Smith, you've got Ryan Gosling, You have Eva Mendez, potentially,
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  Speaker 1: which I know she hasn't acted in anything super recently.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But it's still a very popular name and everything. So
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  Speaker 1: those are going to come with a cost. Also, Sean
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  Speaker 1: Levy is super popular right now. So there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of popularity to try and catch people's attention to bring
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  Speaker 1: them back to theaters, basically, at the end of the day. 100%.
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  Speaker 4: 100%. And speaking of Mendez, I actually have it right here.
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  Speaker 4: I couldn't find the original post, so I did find
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  Speaker 4: an article over at comicbook.com written by Brian Walton. It
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  Speaker 4: says here that Ryan Gosling's upcoming Star Wars movie is
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  Speaker 4: turning into.
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  Speaker 3: A family affair.
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  Speaker 4: Eva Mendez is expected to join her real-life husband in
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  Speaker 4: Star Wars Starfighter. director Sean Levy's upcoming adventure set five years,
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  Speaker 4: of course, after The Rise of Skywalker, Mendez will be
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  Speaker 4: reportedly playing the owner of an intergalactic cantina, making her
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  Speaker 4: first live-action film appearance in over a decade. Her last
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  Speaker 4: film was Lost River, released in 2014, which was written
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  Speaker 4: and directed by Ryan Gosling himself. So, I do.
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  Speaker 5: Believe That for millennials and up, so you got your millennials,
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  Speaker 5: you got your Gen X, and you got your boomers.
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  Speaker 4: Mendez is a name that we all know.
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  Speaker 1: I actually had to go Google her because I didn't know.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 4: You younger millennials and elder Gen Zers, you probably don't
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  Speaker 4: know who... eva mendez is go watch hitch um that
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  Speaker 4: that's that's the movie that i will always tell people
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: yeah okay with will smith um oh i have seen
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: that there you.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: Go then you've seen two movies of.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: Hers three because she's in two fast movies Oh, okay.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: But I do believe she is a name and face
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: that people will recognize. So I do hope that in
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: a future TV spot, I do hope they use her
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: as marketing material. Also, hey, Star Wars, Disney, do you
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: know what really successful TV show just ended that has...
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: a really popular actor that is in your movie that
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: has had zero coverage.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Please. Put the guy in the first trailer. I need
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: a character spot.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Yes, please.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Don't make him an alien. It's too late. If you've
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: already made him an alien.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: I was going to say it's a little too late.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: If he is an alien, he's so good. but genuinely
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: Eva Mendez, Aaron Pierre, like I, I need these people
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: in the marketing. Cause again, I do believe that like
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: hearing Eva Mendez, like not only did I remember like,
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, she's married to Ryan Gosling, but like, I
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: remembered all the movies that I used to watch with
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: Eva Mendes. She was in the original Ghost Rider movie
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: with Nicolas Cage. She was, again, in Hitch. She's been
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: in two or three different Fast movies. It is a
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: recognizable name. I desperately need Disney to.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: I understand.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: As a 35-year-old that has now lived through two Trump administrations... Like,
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: the beautiful, like, oh, Disney's so good at this, this,
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: and this has kind of just been destroyed by capitalism. But, like,
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: go back to the way I used to remember you. Like, oh,
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: the marketing genius. Do you remember how many times we
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: used to say that when this first came? Like, when
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: we first started this podcast? Oh, yeah, the marketing genius
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: of Disney. They did this and this.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: To be clear, I've never said that with Star Wars
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: back then.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: With Star Wars marketing, but we have said it with Disney.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: With Marvel in general, yes.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: And we want that for Star Wars.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: It's not that hard.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: We know that you've gotten a little lazy because you say, hey,
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: we have a billion dollar company.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: We don't really need to market everything.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: Yes, you do.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: Yes, you do.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: This is one of them.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I am thinking that the first Starfighter trailer is going
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: to show up with Doomsday in theaters.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: Ooh, okay. Well, because for one, let me.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, and you know what? I just realized I'm having
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: surgery a week and a half before Doomsday comes out.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: I'm not seeing Doomsday in theaters.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: I don't think you are. I don't think you are. So, okay.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: May 28th is the release date.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: January, February, March, April, May.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: Five months.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: December 18th?
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. Trailers have been kind
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: of all over the place recently.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: They need to do it soon, though. I think they do.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: I think they do. I agree with you. I think
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: that it needs... don't even know what they i don't
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: think they have anything big after doomsday until starfighter yeah
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: so i think you need to be reminded at doomsday
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: i hope it is i i at that point i
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: hope it is because there's nothing in january january is
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: kind of like a very dead month for movie theaters
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: don't put it anywhere near january um yeah i would
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: say i would say it's attached to doomsday hopefully.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: But yeah, Katie, I think that is it.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: I do believe it is it.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: That is it for our new segments.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: And now we shall be talking about our main segment,
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: which is Star Wars Dark Legend.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: Excuse me, Legends.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: I got that wrong in the thumbnail.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: Sorry.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Also, apparently there was a Target exclusive edition which had
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: three additional stories. I definitely don't have that.
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: I hate when content is dedicated by where you can
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: go get the book. Yeah. So I have through a
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: life immortal in the Target exclusive edition has the sleep
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: of ages, Baku rot, and a bitter harvest.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: Okay, so....
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: Looking at mine, a life of mortal is what I
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: have in my digital version. And then.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: In the, let's.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: See here. Oh, it only says track nine. They need
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: to actually write the actual titles and, Oh, did you
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: get the audiobook? I did get the audiobook as well.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: So again, I mentioned that this feels like a Goosebumps
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: anthology type of book within the Star Wars universe. And
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: so I was like, ooh, because this is supposed to
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: be a spooky season story, I want to listen to
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: it as an audiobook.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: I forgot it had an audiobook. I'll have to, I
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: think I have it too. I just forgot about it.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: I'll have to go.
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: Look at that. Now, here is where I am going
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: to go down on. I don't like this book. It's
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: just a Goosebumps book in the Star Wars universe.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: And this is, I think, the third book in the
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: series that... Yeah, so Myth and Fables is the first one. one.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: And that one was written strictly by George Mann. And
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: then The Life Day Treasury was written by George Mann
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: and Kevin Scott, which, guys, we are going to, to
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: hopefully be releasing a review episode on Life Day Treasury
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: out in December. So that is currently the plan. But
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: that was the last one in the look, in the series.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: So not the first time that they did this, but
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: they wanted a kind of mythology-based story, creepiness factor here.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: that they kind of also did with the stories of
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Luke Skywalker was kind of also a Legends type thing
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: where basically they went through and were like, oh, these
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: different things happened. They never mentioned Luke Skywalker's name, but
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: they're kind of myths that surround happenings.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: And so like.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: The.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: I enjoyed some of them. But my problem is, like,
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: reading these stories, it also kind of felt like it
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: could have been in any other fantasy book. There's only
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: one that I was like, ooh, that was a good one.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: And it's... I have the story here.
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: I believe it is The Predecessor.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: The Predecessor.
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: The Predecessor. If you actually go onto Wikipedia, they actually
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: have all of the stories. You can click each one.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: The summary of this.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: Story is essentially... There is a individual that is operating on,
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: I believe, the Death Star. Yep.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Or, no, the Star Destroyer X-Actor.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: Okay, the X-Actor. He is looking for his superior in
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: the very beginning of the story. And he cannot find them.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: But then he is promoted. Just all willy-nilly.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: He's like, cool. He's like, I want to go talk.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: to that one guy. Marsden. Lieutenant Marsden. I want to
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: go talk to Marsden. And he can't find him. He
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: can't find him. He can't find him. But then he
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: starts to see Marsden.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Hallucination.
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: He's starting to hallucinate Marsden. And then while he's sleeping,
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: he's hearing this gurgling, choking sound. And it starts to
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: insinuate which is really, really fun because this genuinely feels
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: like a star Wars horror, like story, especially one that
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: you like, I can imagine like in like the, the, the.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: Mess hall, all these storm troopers, like.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: Hey, did you, did you ever hear, did you ever
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: hear about the story about Lieutenant Marsden? And like this
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: being a ghost story, that the troopers tell people.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: That is fun. That is cool.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: Like I felt like, when I read this story and
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: then of course, the reason why it's so fun is
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: because it's an endless loop because at the very end,
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: he freaks out in front of Darth Vader and, In
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: front of his entire crew.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: And Darth Vader. And Darth Vader kills him. With a
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: force choke.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: And then.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: This random person. Is promoted the very next day. Insinuating.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: Oh this probably is going to happen to him too.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: That was such a fun story.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: It was.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: I really really love that story. But when you read
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: the rest of them, and we can kind of pick
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: out some of our other favorites, they kind of all
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: felt like, oh, did you ever read that one story
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: in Goosebumps? Okay, now just slap Star Wars onto that,
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: and there you go.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: So, to be fair, I've never actually read Goosebumps either.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: I've never read a single Goosebumps.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: Okay, okay.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: So, I have no idea. I really enjoyed The Dark Mirror.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: which is where the Jedi Padawan and his master, the
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: master dies. He receives this heirloom necklace from the master
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: that has a piece of kyber in it. And the
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: master was the pinnacle of what a Jedi is supposed
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: to be like very light filled, no anger, no love,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: no passion, nothing. Well, it turns out that this guy
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: was getting all of his dark emotions absorbed into the kyber.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: And then it basically got to a point where it
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: turned on him and it was taking over. And every
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: night he would go out and kill people. And the
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Jedi Council had caught the master at one point. But
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: it wasn't like they actually caught him. It was, oh,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: this assassin is killing people. Like, hey, can you go
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: find him? And the master supposedly killed him and then
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: went off to the next mission on another planet. Basically,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: he was like, oh, crap. I just about got caught. Well,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: the kyberg does the same thing to the Padawan, the apprentice.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: And.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: he has to follow down the path and he's ashamed
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: of what he did because he was supposed to be
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: this pinnacle and take on a Padawan and complete the
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: same thing over and over again. But instead he lets
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: the darkness consume him and falls farther and farther down.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: I loved this one.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Wasn't this one... Didn't this one insinuate that he was
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: the one that killed the Master?
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: Like the.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: I didn't think so.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: Yes, so what ends up happening... Oh no, Katie, you're
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: speed reading too fast again.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: I only got a chance to read the stories once.
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: So... I believe it's this one. Unless it's... There is...
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: Hold on, hold on. Because I am pretty sure it
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: is this.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: So... Yeah, so....
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: Where is it?
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: It says here.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: So he killed a Jedi knight that was supposed to
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: be helping him find the assassin. That was the reveal,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: not the master.
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: It says Mogra found his robes torn and that fellow Jedi.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Uh, could just, and draw, but that's not the.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: Master had been murdered by the killer, which the killer
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: ended up being him. Yeah.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: So that's the reveal is that he killed this other
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Jedi and he figures that out because he's holding his robes.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Nobody knows who killed the master.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: But this was by far, I think my favorite out
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: of here.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Um, This one was another good one. I did like
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: this one.
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: The other one I did like.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: It, like.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: So it didn't really set the precedent for what all
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: the other stories were going to be like.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: Because this one is the only one that feels like, hey,
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: there's a little bit of canon here. Is The Orphanage.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: The Orphanage.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Is.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: Like they name drop. Who is the. Kira Vantala.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Is a.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: I believe a Jedi Master.
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: Or maybe. Yeah.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: But like.
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: This was a short story. It wasn't just like a.
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: Like short little anthology. Like spooky story. Like this felt like.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: This could be expanded upon a little bit.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and it makes sense with the Inquisitors. We
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: know that the Inquisitors were taking kids that they found
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: to be more sensitive so it makes total sense but
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: it's it was.
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: Very interesting because this phantom this evil individual.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: Was a.
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: Uh it's the grand inquisitor is it the grand inquisitor
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: oh yeah Because I was questioning it because, of course,
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: it does describe a.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: I.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: Only know the freaking... I don't know the species. I
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: only know the planet.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: It's a pow.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: A barren. Or, yeah. A powen.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: A powen, yeah.
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: Of course, the elongated face, the red makeup.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: Not red makeup, but the red skin across their eyes.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Well, I was going based off the artwork, which has
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: the Grand Inquisitor in it. And the reason I'm assuming
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: it's the Grand Inquisitor, they talk about the Saber at
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: his back.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: The Clone Wars.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: The Clone Wars. But then he's also not wearing a helmet.
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: He's not wearing a helmet. The other children, including her,
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: and I'm saying her, Elish?
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: Elish.
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: Elish?
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: Elish or Elish, one of the two.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: Along with Samil and Gifar, it is insinuated that these
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: are all Force-sensitive individuals.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: So it does make sense that the Grand Inquisitor would
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: be stealing them to possibly train them to become Inquisitors. So, like,
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: that I really liked. I did like this story because
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: it felt more canon. This felt like, hey, it's an
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: in-world story that is also kind of like a boogeyman.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: Like, you have to be careful for this individual, right? So, like,
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: I felt that was cool.
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: Like, that felt less like a Goosebumps story and more
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: of like a, hey, this is an in-universe story that was...
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: sprinkled into the spooky season of Halloween, you know?
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: So I really liked that. All the other stories.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: And if it makes you feel better, this, so this
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: dark legends book was published July 28th, 2020. So it
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: wasn't actually even published in the midst of spooky season.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: Well, I know, but like the, the, the vibe of
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: the book is meant.
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: To be a spooky book.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: That's the, no, yeah, no, I get what you're saying.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: the the what did you feel about a life immortal
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: then which focuses on darth noctis who had the scythe
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: shaped lightsaber and noctis if you remember was mentioned in
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: shadow of the sith.
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: Yes um.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: I know noctis um uh let me actually see uh Noctis, if.
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: I remember correctly... I.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: Believe this is the right Sith Lord that I'm thinking of.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: If I just.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: It's not technically a Scythe Blade. It says Sith Lightsaber
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: with a curved blade.
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: With a curved blade.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Oh!
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking of Nihilus, not Noctis. So this one was fun.
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: It brought a little bit of, uh, Sith history to
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: this one. Um, I did enjoy this one. This is
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: the very last story.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: Um, yes.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: In the regular edition.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: In the regular edition.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: Um, this one was cool. I really liked this one.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Um, Grant Griffin, who is the artist in this guys,
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: we forgot to mention him. Grant Griffin did a specific
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: art piece for each story. Um, in the collection and
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: he said as this story was one of the last
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: to be added and due to approaching printing deadlines i
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: had to proceed with the illustration without knowing whom or
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: what the main characters were what i did know was
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: that this story took place on exegol and was going
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: to have a strong dr frankenstein and igor vibe at
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: the time i only had the trailer visuals to go
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: off of inspired by a screenshot i built up the
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: scene and shrouded our sith in a hood to hide
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: their identity with a bit of forest lightning to showcase
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: the villain's power, I was able to increase the drama
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: in the composition. The curved lightsaber was added later, and
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: if I am not mistaken, is specific to a particular city.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Kind of a little cool tidbit.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: This, I remember this when I was kind of like,
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: kind of just like, hurrying because i was gonna run
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: out of time i was like crap uh this last
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: the last two stories i did at two times speed
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: so i'm just reading the uh plot summary real quick
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: and i i do remember most of this um this
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: one was fun like i i like and i i
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: may have judged it a little too hard because like
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: again i do like the idea of genre within star
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: wars i think like i I'm starting to sound a
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: little bit of a contradiction to myself. Kind of in
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: the same way that people are also wanting genre within DC.
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: But Clayface right now is not doing so well in
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: the box office. It's kind of just there off of
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: kind of making profit. Yeah. But I like genre. I
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: am not a huge scary person. Or horror person... But
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: I'm okay with reading it... And I'm okay with dabbling
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: into it... When I need to... I want people to
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: be able to express themselves... Who are writing Star Wars.
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: And want.
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: To write a horroristic... Type of story... That's totally fine...
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: My big thing was... Within these stories here... It feels like....
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: I can just change all the names.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: And, like, say this was, like... Oh, this is during
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: the time of King Arthur.
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: And, like, it all kind of does the same thing. Like,
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: it all... Like, literally nothing can change.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: I can just say, hey, this is Lancelot.
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: The very last story. And it'll just be like, wait, what?
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: But, to a sense, like... Everything has... an inspiration somewhere.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: And so we all like, I remember growing up wanting
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: to take, and this is like the strangest thing, but
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: I wanted to take, uh, uh, Lara Croft and basically
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: put it in the middle of Chronicles of Narnia. Like
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: that's what I wanted to do with like a fiction
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: that I wanted to write. So everybody's going to take
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: those things. So what's wrong with taking Frankenstein and putting
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: it in the middle?
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: And you're right. What's the phrase? There's no original thought
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: under the sun anymore.
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: In Hollywood, I think they say there's only like three
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: types of films. I can't remember the exact number, but
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: it's something along those lines. And I get that. And
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: that's why when you have something of a pitch, you're
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: always like, oh, it's this but this, right? They take
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: things that have already been created and they amalgam them.
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: I don't know. What was the other one?
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: Is it Blood Moon or is it.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: Blood Moon is the werewolf story.
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: Buyer Beware. That's the one I'm thinking of. Buyer Beware
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: is the Batuu story.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: The mask.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: Um, and like this, like, like this, I think this
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: one felt more like a goosebumps story more than anything,
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: because it's just like, Oh, this person sees that this
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: other dude was able to get anything and everything he wanted.
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: And this dude is jealous of the amount of power
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: and money that he has. It's like, Oh, well, you know,
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: I'm a King, so I should be able to do
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: that anyway, but I'm going to use this mask to
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: do it. Um, And then, of course, you learn that,
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: you know, wearing this mask has consequences. And then there's
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: paranoia with it. Like, it kind of just checked every
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: box that, like, that kind of stereotypical story would have.
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: Maybe there just needed to be a little bit more, like.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: Like.
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: did I need a little bit more sci-fi in the stories?
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: Did I, did I need a little bit more star
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: Wars in the star Wars story? You know, maybe that's
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: my big thing. Cause I, I guess.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: My argument with that is there's only so much star
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Wars you can put in it. When you, talk about how, like,
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: I get the mask one. I completely agree with you
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: on the mask. There's really nothing there that says, oh,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: this is Star Wars. The Noctis one, however, you're saying
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: kind of the same thing, but Noctis was talking about, like,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: Force Lightning, the Sith, Exegol, lightsabers.
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: But Again, I think the Noctis story and the predecessor,
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: two very good examples of the Goosebumps-esque stories within the
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: Star Wars universe.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: The first one we were talking about. The Orphanage.
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: The predecessor. Yeah, okay. That's technically the first story in
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: the book. the orphanage that feels like it could be
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: an annual in a comic series. Like that, that is
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: just like, Hey, this is just a story that's part
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: of the star Wars universe.
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: You know, um, blood moon.
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to remember what was significant about blood moon.
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: This one was the one blood moon.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: Is, is basically like a, um, Oh, a werewolf story.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: They succumb to the... It's a kyber moon that has
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: turned red.
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this one I don't remember really wowing me. That
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: one didn't wow me very much. And then I think
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: the other one, unfortunately, was the Nightsister one. The Nightsister
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: one just was kind of meh to me.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Oh, I loved the Nightsister one. It definitely was not
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: my favorite, but I thought it was very good.
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: And maybe I need to just listen to it again.
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: Maybe after this conversation, I can kind of just take
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: a chill pill, I guess, and just be like, hey,
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: it is what it is.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Because it's definitely something that we saw Asajj try to
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: do in the Clone Wars. It's something very similar, taking
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: over somebody's mind and really getting in their thoughts. And
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: man just kind of took it and ran with it,
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: expanded it into something that worked for the story he
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: was trying to tell. And that story is The Gilded Cage.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: What did I download? I didn't want to download opera.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. I'm going to have to debug my
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: oh no anyways so the other fun fact that I
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: was going to share about this is the Dark Legends
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: Target Edition again sucks that this had to be in
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: the exclusive edition but they actually introduced the Drengear In
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: the last story.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: In.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: In the target edition. Which is called. A bitter harvest.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: And that was the first introduction of the drink gear.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: Like canonically speaking. Like that was the first time the
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: word drink gear. Is mentioned. It does take place. It
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: looks like. Like during the high republic. Phase.
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: Is that with the sniff?
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: No, so it's not like they're.
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: That far back.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: So it's just like, this is the first time they're
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: mentioned in canon. As like, this is the first book
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: that they're in. One of the notes on the story says,
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: this story involves Drengir during the High Republic era. The
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: Drengir act as a collective and were put in stasis
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: thousands of years before the High Republic era. Therefore, the
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: story can only take place during the Drengir crisis. where
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: the creatures were awoken and defeated during the High Republic era.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: Star Wars Timelines dates the Dreamgear crisis as taking place
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: between 232 and 231 BBY. All right.
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: Very nice.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: But it's the first, like, because this book came out,
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: the Target edition came out August 30th, 2020, and the
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: High Republic did not get started until January 2021. And now, originally, originally,
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: I believe that Dark Legends would have come out after
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: the High Republic got started because the High Republic was
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: originally supposed to start in January 2020, but because of
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: COVID and everything, everything got pushed back.
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah. All right, all right, all right.
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: I will, well, you know, that's kind of a bummer
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: because now that I think about it, I understand having
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: exclusive for target, but like, why not have those on
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: the audio book then?
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's because it's because those people want like audible
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: has exclusive stuff. Um, they just want a chance for, Hey,
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: you have to go here to get it. And like,
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: that's why like dungeon crawler Carl, for instance, the, audiobook.
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: Is only available on.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: Audible because of that aspect um but like in the
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: hard cup hard copy of dungeon crawler carl they actually
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: asked him if he could do an exclusive story for
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: the hard copies to encourage people to buy hard copies
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: because the author kept the digital rights so he has
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: all the publishing rights for the e-book And the audiobooks.
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: Nice.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: And so they're like, well, if we're going to buy this,
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: we want you to put something exclusive in the hard
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: copies so people are encouraged to buy the hard copies.
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: Nice.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: It sucks. But it is what it is. That's the
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: publishing world right now.
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: All right, well, Katie, I believe that is it for
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: the episode. I think that overall we enjoyed the Dark
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: Legends book. I may have been a little too, like
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: a little, I came in a little hot with the
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: hot take. And I think I've kind of cooled down
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: on the idea of it. But I still enjoyed it.
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: So not a bad book whatsoever. But yeah.
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: With that, guys, of course, you can find me at
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: Fanboy Clay over on Instagram and threads. Go check me
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: out also over on Ranger Alliance. We should have two
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: episodes dropping this coming Monday, actually. So be on the
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: lookout for those two episodes coming out on Monday, this
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: upcoming Monday. But Katie, what about you?
• 56:47
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• 56:49
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• 56:58
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• 56:59
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• 57:02
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• 57:08
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• 57:14
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• 57:17
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• 57:23
  Speaker 4: Setting that challenge.
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: You better respond.
• 57:26
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• 57:30
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• 57:42
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• 57:46
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• 57:49
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• 57:54
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• 57:57
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• 58:00
  Speaker 1: November 1st. But for November, guys, we're entering November next week.
• 58:07
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• 58:11
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• 58:16
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• 58:20
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• 58:24
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• 58:28
  Speaker 1: the High Republic adult rankings. And then on November 19th,
• 58:33
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• 58:37
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• 58:42
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• 58:45
  Speaker 1: soon is it too late can we have another one
• 58:50
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• 58:54
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• 58:59
  Speaker 1: do that uh that will be our conversation november 19th
• 59:02
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• 59:06
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• 59:09
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• 59:14
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• 59:17
  Speaker 1: what Clay and I can do. I don't know if
• 59:22
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• 59:24
  Speaker 1: December 9th. So anything after December 9th is either going
• 59:28
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• 59:31
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• 59:33
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• 59:36
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• 59:39
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• 59:45
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• 59:50
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• 59:51
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• 59:55
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• 59:57
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• 1:00:01
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• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: of next year, which, oh my gosh, it's almost 2027. Anyways,
• 1:00:07
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• 1:00:11
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• 1:00:14
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• 1:00:15
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