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CTK-47: The Greatest Rivalry Just Keeps Getting Better · Cut The Kak

• Byron: Welcome back to another episode of Cut the Cuck. I'm Byron. That's Chad. We love to talk about the sport we love and know absolutely nothing about. Chad, let's cut the cuck. Chad: we're going to have to change that intro because the more cuck we talk the more things happen so Byron: Yeah, there is a there is a weird thing going on. it's either we say the same thing that everyone else is saying, so we're actually not doing anything. Or Chad: No, no, I take full credit. Byron: then if that's the case, Rusty's listening. Chad: Russie, Russie doesn't miss an episode. Byron: So, Russi, thanks for watching. We know you're listening. Have a good one, buddy. Chad: Yep. Byron: Enjoy your brunners in the show. Chad: Yeah. Byron: fuck. Chad, after Chad: What are you? Byron: Saturday, hold on. Thanks to our friend Rugby Kants, the only thing I could say at the end of Saturday's game was fuck this Rugby. Chad: I know. I am. It's so F*#king good. Byron: It was such a good game. And I know when we'll we'll get into it later, but I it was a nail biter right till the very, very, very last whistle. Such good Chad: It was. Byron: rugby. but yeah, I don't even know where to start. There's it was such a good weekend. Chad: Well all the stuff we have to cover today is obviously the box game. I want to touch on... Byron: Box. But we also gotta talk about the Lions All Blacks, which was also this week. Last week. Chad: Yeah, I'm going, I'm just going, no particular order, but most Byron: Okay. Chad: important to me is the boxwood. Being number one on the on the world rankings, Byron: World rankings. Chad: which I don't actually think means anything at the moment until the series over. Byron: No, you kinda gotta wait till the end of the series because it's just gonna and Chad: Yeah. Byron: and the only thing that would be weird is if Ireland goes into first, because that's usually what happens. Chad: that they, that before the regular World Cup, will, they'll go first because of something. Byron: Yeah. Chad: I want to talk about the Russie, Renny, Scrum debate. And also just like the, Byron: Okay. It's a very polite way of you to put it. Chad: the mind games that are happening or if it's happening because of that. then you, like you said, the Lions. Right. There's two bits to this that I want to have rant about Sky Sport and about the actual rugby. And then can talk about the curry cup. It's all set up. The NPC didn't go my way. Byron: Northland. Chad: But Northland, bruh. So yeah, that's what we want to cover today. What, where do want to start? Do want to the Lions game? Byron: yeah, let's talk about the Lions game. I wanna hear this this this what happened at three AM in New Zealand. This is I I saw posts, you Chad: So. Byron: complained, but I asked you not to tell me because I wanted to hear about it on the show. Chad: So Wednesday morning, 3am, set my alarm for 2.50am. So get up, go make a coffee. Got up, make a coffee. Came back, there was like five minutes before the game. Turned on SkySport, cycling on. I was like, okay, maybe they're just not doing a pre-show. But it said Lions versus All Blacks. I was like, all right, cool. This is, I'll wait. Byron: And this is in New Zealand, right? This is Sky New Zealand. Okay? Chad: Sky Sport New Zealand, yeah. So I was like, right, I'll do the scroll for five minutes and I'll come back. Came back. So, exactly. But the entire- Byron: Maybe hold on, hold on, wait, wait, wait. Not at a very important question. But was the cycling a live event or was the cycling a replay? Chad: I cannot explain to you how much I hate cycling. Byron: Ha ha Chad: I couldn't care if they were doing it outside my house. Byron: Ha ha ha. Chad: And waking up at 3 o'clock in the morning and being forced to watch cycling when I'm expecting to watch the game I love makes me hate cycling so much more. But Byron, I had to go through this of in-house closing apps, going to check the TV, going to check my iPad, refreshing for about 30 minutes. I got, SkySport came up on the 38th minute of that first half. Byron: No Hold on. Were you able to Chad: It was a terrible Wednesday. Byron: Were you able to go back and watch the first half? Chad: Yeah, after the game, yes. Byron: So you watch the second half and then watch the first half. Chad: Yes, thank you. Proudly brought to you by Sky New Zealand and F*#king cycling. Byron: Wow. Okay. I mean that's that's You know, if if if you were in the US and they got it wrong, it you know, there's a little bit of leeway. But it's the Lions versus the All Blacks. For Sky Sport New Zealand. Chad: It was I was... Yeah. And then I saw that they posted things saying it was a technical issue. then there was Oaks in Australia watching the game with the commentary from the New Zealand broadcast team. So... I don't know. Byron: Someone forgot to wake up and change the cables, that's what happened. Chad: I went onto Twitter and I was looking at the What is being posted and stuff? Oaks were fuming. Byron: To make it even worse, out of all of the games against the club sides in South Africa, this was the best one. By far the best one. Chad: by a long shot. Yeah. Byron: Yeah, also they were the only team to lead the All Blacks. They scored the most tries against the All Blacks. It was so good. Chad: There was two things from that game, player-wise, from the All Blacks that I'm... I mean we're going all over the place now but that Byron: Fine. Go all at whatever. Who cares? Chad: I would like to see in the All Black Squad now and they all Taz and Marco boys three of them Noah Hotham Ethan Blackadder had a F*#king unreal game he he just didn't stop he was like an old F*#king Toyota just F*#king yes Byron: Cracker, cracker. And it was so those old Buckies. Chad: he just kept F*#king going an old Harlex Byron: And do you know what was so cool about that as well? Is that his dad and Frankie Horn's dad played in the last tour. How cool is that? Fucking what a storyline. Chad: played. How sick. Unreal. And then Tava Tava Ngawai. Bro. Byron: Did you see how many likes your comment got on that post? That's been wild. Chad: No. Which one? shit. Well, I don't know which one it was. Byron: It was the one about please don't do that against the spring box or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Chad: yeah, could you please not, yeah. I mean, I meant every word of it. If those three, Byron: Brother, he's he's Chad: those two, Tava Tava Nauai and Ethan Blackadock, if introducing to the squad, it's going to be such a big problem with the breakdown for us, because that's where we won this week's game. Byron: As an inside center, he shouldn't be stealing the ball like Malcolm Marks. Chad: No. Byron: And in this and in the super rugby season, didn't he get the most steals? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. But that's because he's built like one. He's like Chad: Yeah, for the Highlanders, yeah. He had more turnovers than the Flanks. Yeah, no. Yeah, he's just... Byron: what's his name? The the hooker that we talk that we talk up so much for the All Blacks. Chad: Take care. Byron: Takiao, exactly. They built the same. Just one of them has ungodly speed. Chad: One's faster. Yeah. Byron: And the other one has a little bit more F*#king bowling ball in him. Chad: But even that break that he had just bounce, bounce, bounce, speed. Byron: Power. Yeah. Yeah. That's exact yeah, exactly. Like he goes from after the bounce to going a little backwards, back into full pace, like this, ready to bounce another oak. Chad: It's like he's hitting, like, for referee, for referee or for like a WWE rope and then just shoots forward. Byron: Like Chad: He's like sick. Wing. Yeah. but Byron: We're going again. Chad: if, if those two, could arguably, you could argue Noah Hotham, but those two, you can't leave out of the squad after this week. Byron: Yeah, but at at at at Scrum half the all blacks are doing so well. Chad: Yeah, so that's why I said Ethan Blackadder and Tabatao Nawa. Yes, you could argue Nawa Hosam. But man. Byron: What a game. I know there was a lot of talk about the stadium, but for Ellis Park in a Lions game, stadium was F*#king packed in comparison. Chad: I know so many people that went into that game. was so, it was so cool to see. Byron: But like also, I was thinking about it, right? Like the last time my brother went to go watch Springbox, who was there? Was it the Wales game? No, it was the Scotland game in the nations championship. Chad: Yeah, yeah, that was a good one. Byron: And his comment was how much South Africans drink at the rugby? Now you've gotta think on a Tuesday night in Joe Burg C B D. You can't go pausa like that on a Tuesday night in Joe Burg C B D. Chad: I mean, you can. Only once, though, but you can. Byron: Yeah. I also thought it was really cool that Kes and Jeppy were there. Chad: Yep. Byron: You know, we spoke about it at the the the Stormers game, how cool it is to have the the high school there. Because it really, really brings up the the atmosphere in the stadium. Like you can hear them going at it. I don't know, there's so many points I have from this game. Q on horns, try saving tackle on Barrett in the 18th minute. Chad: Yep. Byron: Beautiful. the Lions winning scrum penalties against the All Blacks. Beautiful. Chad: Yep. I wonder if they were stepping around. Byron: Chad, don't say fighting words. Russ is already sworn at Renny, so Chad: no, that was very funny. I had a bit of a giggle at that one. I wonder what his fine is going to be. Byron: who cares? Who cares? also, the loose trio for the Lions are going to be phenomenal for the for the URC next season. Mahashe, Klakane, and Frankie Horn. Chad: bro that's spring book quality Byron: Ma Mahashe had Unreal. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Chad: Unreal bro, did anyone man the match? And how often do you get named man the match and being on the losing side? Byron: I mean, they were on the losing side, but the way they played, come on. Chad: Yeah. Byron: Out of all the club sides, and I can't even remember the Oak's name because he pissed me off so much last week when we spoke about that article that he wrote. And he's like, the Lions Chad: yeah. Byron: are notoriously the worst. Fuck you, brother. Look, go look at the score. Eat your words, you prick. Chad: Yeah. Byron: also, Chris Smith, Chad: Mm-hmm. Byron: him and Cheszy don't know how to miss. I love it. Chad: Yep, that's so good. Byron: also this is a shout out. Next year the Lions are the ten bet lions. And they'll be playing at 10 bet Ellis Park. Right? So 10 bet Lions, Chad: Ellis Park. Byron: 10 bet Ellis Park. Let's get 10 bet Cut the Cuk. Chad: Let's do a 10 bit. We're more than happy to talk about the lines, Byron especially. Byron: I'll say 10 bet lions every time I say lions moving forward if that's what it takes. Fucking RV Chad: It'll be the Harvey Norman replay of the part. Byron: Norman. what else I got on that game. given that result, I think Chad: Hmm. Byron: it's only fair. This is a shout out to the Lions fans around Johannesburg and if you jump. Chad: Aren't you a Lions fan? Byron: I said around Johannesburg. Fucking far from Johannesburg, Chad. Chad: Okay. Yeah. You're a you're a far. Yeah. It's a bit of a commute. Byron: A bit of a just a a a little ways away. Please, I think the Lions have earned a packed stadium for the open of the URC after that performance. Chad: Yeah. Byron: Please. Let's let's give what they deserve. Go fill out that stadium on the opening game. Chad: I just got a question for you also on this before we move on. So, okay, then you go, Byron: Yeah. Yeah, I've got three more things on this as well, but you'll hear to hear it. Chad: I'll finish. Byron: No, because you're gonna forget, mine are written down. Chad: I'm gonna use your math that you normally do. So the game before Byron: Okay. Rugby meth. It never works. Let's do it. Chad: the rugby math. So two games before this lion's game. Byron: Yes. Chad: The sharks and the lions drew 22 22. Byron: Different lions team, different sharks team. But yes, go on. Chad: Don't make it too complicated. Does that mean that the Lions are the second best African team? Byron: Ha ha ha. Chad: and that they could beat the All Blacks, Byron: Ha ha ha Chad: Keeping mind two weeks before that the sharks got pumped 50-4-0. But if they had to play that week, this week. Byron: It's so Chad: No. Byron: hard to say 'cause it's the you can't count the curry cup sides and the URC sides. They're two different teams. Even different coaches, which I thought was crazy. Chad: I was making a crappy joke, Byron: La graphi. Chad: it wasn't a serious question in any way, shape or form. Byron: I o I only do the serious things here. There's no no time for jokes. No time for humor. Chad: Yeah, it's not what we are bad. Byron: This is the most serious rugby podcast there is. Chad: Mmm. Byron: We only talk legitimate stats and facts. Chad: Yeah, like F*#king five-meter bombs being dropped on penalties. Byron: Yes, exactly. Can't wait to see it. the other thing I got is Rico Yoani. Chad: Yeah. Byron: What can't he do? Chad: Yeah, I know. That's, I, bro. Byron: And and when he runs at full pace, he leaves Oaks behind him. But the crazy thing about it is his legs don't move that quick. Chad: Him and Will Jordan look like they don't even want to be there. They just... Byron: Brother, I don't even want don't even get me started on F*#king War Jordan. Jesus. Chad: I know. Byron: Well, I'm not even there yet. It's pissing me off. then I had a question for you. Chad: Yep. Byron: Did Richima Wanga have a bad game? Or did the Lions keep him quiet? Chad: yeah, I was, I don't think, Byron: He still had special moments, but he wasn't a star. Chad: I don't think it, I don't know. I wouldn't say he was amazing, but I also don't think you can take it away from the lines. The lines are putting one to pressure. Byron: Yeah, they had very quick line speed on defense. Chad: and maybe that's why he was in that game too i think you'll definitely be the next game maybe that's why he was in there to kind of get those cobwebs blown up but he's playing an npc i don't know i don't know i think it was a bit of bias Byron: I'm look, we love well, love's a strong word. We both think Richie Mowang is a special talent. But can you really replace Ruben Love at the moment? I can't see it. Chad: Unless Ruben Love rolls his ankle. No. Byron: I can't see like I I we've spoken countless times about how good Richie is. But the way Ruben Love is playing and the way he played in this in super rugby and the way he's playing now for the All Blacks in the nations championship and in this, you can't you can't you can't replace him at the moment. I don't I don't think he it should happen. Chad: You know, I think what will happen and it's what Russie's kind of been doing, especially in this last, when he named his team, cause he named a team and changed it like four times. I had Byron: Yeah. Yeah, I didn't know that was allowed. Chad: no idea either, but it'll change. I reckon. I think what will happen is Russie will name a squad and then if Mwanga is named. Polar will be named. Byron: Interesting. Chad: And could that play? Richie's obviously a little bit more. Attacking dynamic, Byron: Dynamic. Yeah. Chad: followed small one side of it. Also, I think probably a little bit bigger. They ran about the same age. I think there's one or two years difference between them. Byron: But Pollard is so calm on the ball. And a great, great director of the back line. Yeah. Chad: Defender. And yeah, I don't. Byron: Speaking, I know we're not even talking about the game yet, but Sasha on defense was incredible. I'd Chad: Yeah, he did. He... Byron: love to see his tackle count. Chad: I used to like... I'm sure we can find it. Do you to see if can find it? Let me have a look at Luthor Agbe. Save it for the game. Byron: Well, you don't mention it. Save it for the game. Fuck not for the game. When we talk about that game, should I say? And then my last point on that game, just because Russi spoke about it in the first test where he made a mistake in the back line reshuffle. I thought the Lions did it in the second half as well. And I think that was the reason the All Blacks finished so strong at the end of the game. And the reason for that was Kion Horn. Was at fullback, Chris Smith was fly half, right? When they brought on Butter Chamberlain, who's been recently signed for the Lions, Butter went to 10, Chris Smith went to Chad: Yeah. Byron: 13, Horn went to wing. And I just feel like that reshuffle was one too many, if that makes sense. Chad: Yeah. Who'd you put in? Byron: Well, I don't know what they're doing with Butter Chamberlain just yet, but he came on at 10. So Chad: Yeah. Byron: you either leave it as it is and take Chris Smith off and leave both your centers and wing and fullback as they are. Chad: Yeah, yeah, Byron: but if I'm not mistaken, Chris Smith went to 13. 13 went to fullback and Horn went to wing. Chad: Yeah. Byron: And the wing was the one who got substituted. I should have written it all down, but it just it didn't work. and I think that was one of the upper hands of the all blacks out at the end of that game. Chad: I still think that's an absolute win that came for the Lions. Byron: F*#king all the respect in the world to them. I think they deserve any sort of celebration and respect as well from the all black side. My goodness. alright. I didn't watch any NRL this week. I was but Chad: I'm Byron: what I would like to say is shout out to the Rabbidos because they have made the playoffs. Or the next round, knockouts. I don't even know what it's called in the NRL. Chad: Doesn't matter, we're winning the whole thing. Byron: Yep, so the rabbit hose ended sixth on the log. Chad: So do we play? PENTAZ? Byron: I have not let's let's see, I'll show I can find it. Go to nrl.com Thanks. Let's see here the draw. Alright, so is this correct? What the hell is this? Chad: Do you me to do it? Do want me to get a blood strike? Byron: so the rabbitos will play the roosters. Chad: nice, okay. Byron: In Sydney. Chad: Well, they're both from Sydney, I think. Byron: You are correct. That's all I got. And then the Warriors who end the top of the log will play the Sea Eagles. Rather, it's the top twelve that make it. Not the no why's this? Who's this? Fifteenth, sixteenth, top sixteenth? Wha what is happening? Chad: Doesn't matter. We're not at NREL shy. Next topic, please. Byron: There's 16 teams that make it, and there's 17 teams on the log. So as long as you don't finish last, you're in. I don't understand this game. Chad: Yes. Byron: Anyways, ignore me. I don't know what's going on. shout out to the Rabbid O's. That's as that's as much as I know. Rabbidos versus Roosters. What's the name plays for Roosters? used to play for the Australian Union side as fullback. Curly hair. Give me a second. Chad: Barak can we please move on? I'm Dan with the NRL. Byron: Okay, move on. Let's let's move on. yeah. I can't even pronounce it anymore. Let's move on. Go on. Nawa No. Move on. Chad: I know exactly who talking about. Byron: Yeah. Chad: fix my camera. Back on top, number one in the world. Does it actually matter at this point or does it not matter? I don't think it matters. And I think Byron: No, 'cause there's still two games left to play. So Chad: if, so if the All Blacks win, they go back on top. And then if we win, we go back on top. It's just such a... Byron: And even even if we win the next one, stay on top and then the All Blacks beat us in Baltimore, I think they go top anyway. So you just gotta wait till not this coming Saturday, the following Saturday, and then the rankings will be decided. Chad: The only ones that actually matters for is Argentina and Australia. It's swapped. Byron: Which swapped because of that not great game. do you wanna do MPC and curry c well let's do curry cup really quickly because it's a short Chad: Okay. Byron: one. And then the MPC and then we can dive into the greatest rivalry because I know that's what you're itching to do. d do you wanna bring up Blitz or just do it Chad: Sure. Byron: from Chad: Okay. What are we doing? Okay. Byron: Can you bring up Blitz and just go to the curry cup? Chad: We can do anything on Blitz. Byron: Alright. Chad: Let me share my screen. Can you bring up thing and just look at the curry cup? Have you not used this app before, Byron? It's the greatest rugby app ever. Byron: I actually showed it off yesterday. I showed it off yesterday. I'll actually I gotta talk about yesterday as well. So results. brrrr yours are so funny. It says Saturday, Sunday, Monday instead of Friday, Saturday. Anyway, you're a foreigner. So, first game. Lions Chad: I know, it's because I'm on a different continent. It's had time zones work. Byron: beat the Stormers pretty convincingly. as Chad: Yep. Byron: expected. Then the Sharks put a proper number on the ball. So Bulls go zero wins for the Curry Cup. Which is crazy because the Chad: Zip. Focal. Byron: URC side was in the final. Chad: Yeah, well, the shocks are just built different. Byron: Alright, easy there, Tiger. They were the lowest ranking team in the URC. Take it, take it a little easy there. What I didn't expect was the Pumas beating the Cheaters. Chad: Yeah. Byron: And I don't know if you saw this. So going into this final round, the Lions were in with an outside shot of making the the semifinals. So when they beat the Stormers, they moved into third. But Pumas and Burland, if they had won, would have knocked the Lions out of contention. So when the Pumas beat the Cheaters, I thought, nay, fuck man. So it's all up to Krickwers to beat Burland. And luckily they did, so that kept Lions in the semifinals. The Sharks were also in the semifinal spot. So if Burland Chad: Hello. Byron: beat no no no if Pumas lost to the Cheaters. Chad: Yep. Byron: Sharks would have made it into the playoffs as well. Chad: I Fucking cheaters. But it's fun. Byron: Fuck and cheat off. Chad: I don't, and this is going to sound horrible to say, I don't care who wins this year's Curry Cup. I just need the cheaters to win next year's Curry Cup. Byron: You to win it next season. Yeah. That's what matters most. Chad: That's all it is. Byron: So now if I'm not mistaken, Lions will play trickwas. Chad: Do you want to go into fixtures? Byron: I don't think it's all right there we go. Lions will play threequest. Chad: Right, let's drag me! Best drag me up on earth! It's all here! Don't ever doubt Byron: Hundred percent. Chad: it! Byron: Don't doubt it at all. So yeah, Kriquaz Lions, first verse fourth, and then second verse third. Cheetahs get chance again against the Pumas, but this time in Blumfontein. Chad: It's going to be like I reckon it's going to be. Fuck the criticals have been playing so well. Byron: Yeah, I think I think it's gonna be a Krickwiz Cheetah's final. Chad: both homes win. Byron: Yeah. Chad: I hope the lights... I hope the Lions take something from the All Black game and can pull it through and it's the Lions cheaters final. Byron: nice little throwback to the Cats. Chad: Hmm. Byron: What a horrible team that was. Chad: Wasn't Rusty part of that tea? Byron: yeah, he played for the Cheetahs. Chad: No, wasn't he part of the Kets? Byron: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. So played for the Cheetahs during the Chad: yeah yeah. Byron: Curry Cup and then the Cats for the Super for Super Rugby. yes. Chad: Yeah, that'll be fun. Byron: Then quickly the MPC, if you don't mind there, sir. Hylux Hylux MPC Chad: To Horlicks, Byron: Tag guys on the rest. Chad: We'll through the results. This week's results. Byron: Hawks Bay, if I'm not mistaken, are undefeated, am I right? Five for five, yeah. Chad: Yep. Byron: Five for five. Five bonus points as well. Chad: Look at that. Bang, bang, bang, bang. They're pulling our hurricanes. Byron: It is and they're not there it no one looks as if they can handle Hawkes Bay either. So Chad: Over here, they say you can't handle the jandals. Byron: Can't handle the jandle. Chad: can't handle the jandal. Hawke's Bay Byron: Sure. Chad: is the jandal. Byron: Kiwi News. You heard it yet first. Then I loved the Auckland Bay of Plenty game. What a fun game. brilliant to watch. sorry. One thing I didn't talk about. You don't need to change anything. Just back to the curry cup, real quickly. Ethan Adams for the Lions is a dangerous boy. Okay. He's built like Takayao. It seems to be a new center thing, these F*#king bowling balls with no necks. Just Chad: Yeah. Byron: and great runner, great Chad: You Byron: defense. And then the last thing I had for that was that Lion Stormers game was a fantastic showcase for the under-18 and 1820. Under-18 and under-20s rugby. Chad: It's in the early 20s. Yep. Byron: And then Quickly, quickly, quickly on the Sharks game that I forgot. Tina Mavacera, the Zimbabwean, Chad: Yep. Byron: scored four tries for the Sharks. So shout out Stables. Tino. Chad: Yep, for producing absolute weapons. Byron: We're watching you. You s you did four sharks vs Bulls, and then transports are getting signed by the Holoquins. Chad: I know that's exciting. think that's well deserved. He's an absolute champion. I think he's going to do some great things. Byron: Would you say would you say that this is proof that the nation's championship is doing exactly what it's supposed to do, and that's getting tier two nations exposure at the highest level? Chad: Yes. Byron: Shout out World Rugby. You got one right. Woohoo! Chad: One for fifty. Let's go. Byron: Yeah. They're putting out a Blue Bulls Curry Cup performance here. sorry, we're still on MPC. Where were we? Chad: Let's just start again. NPC will run through them real quick because we had a big intermission there. Byron: Got it. Got it. You do it. Chad: Stags, Hawke's Bay. Fun game, but like we said, Hawke's Bay just... So much better than everyone. They can't Byron: Can't handle the what? Can't handle the Chad: handle the jandal. Byron: Can't handle the jandle. Chad: Yep. Bay of Plenty and Auckland, like Byron said, crack of a game, real fun. Byron: What a game. What a game. Chad: Taranaki Bulls and Canterbury without Mwanga. It looks like Canterbury are... Nah, Byron: Yeah, and we said that weeks ago. Chad: it's not just him. They've had a couple injuries in their back line. So that's why they're not scoring any points. Byron's number two team, Otago and Waikato, another fun, exciting NPC game. Byron: Also, can I can I tell you a wild stat about that game? Chad: Tell me, hit me. Byron: Half time, Wakato had 64% possession. No, excuse me, Otago had 64% Chad: Jesus. Okay. Byron: possession, 62% territory, 5 minutes and 26 seconds in the up in the 22, versus 1 minute and 51 seconds for Wakato. And Chad: Wow. Byron: Wakato were leading at halftime 26-28. Stats changes everything. Anyways, go on, please. I I keep interrupting you. Chad: Ummm... Turbos and North Harbour... Absolute nail butter. Byron: And North Harbour still can't win again. No, no, sorry. I'm thinking of counties. Please go on. Chad: I mean, let's... Counties. They won. Counties won. Counties beat your team. Your... Your Marty Byron: I know. I know. Chad: Lions got beaten by Counties. Byron: I'm so glad I chose Otago as a second side because I would just give up on the NPC. Fucking Wellington Lions. Jesus. Chad: And then Northland and Tasman bro Byron: Full shield. Chad: for the shield Close close game all the way up until the end. I thought Marco were gonna come and take it towards the end. I can't click on this thing because I'm on the computer again. But man, another fun game. NPC is one of my favorite competitions to watch. I absolutely love it. I think it's one of the best up there. It's yeah, Byron: It's so exciting. It's so exciting. Chad: so good. Byron: And also look at those scores. Tell me that's not attacking rugby. Or maybe maybe the defense just absolutely dog shit. But we know that's not the case. We know it's not the case Chad: No, it's not that. Yeah. Byron: for the New Zealand sides. Chad: It's just it's just really good, really fun. Byron: Really, really good rugby. did you wanna do predictions for for for for next week? Chad: next week sure let me see if i can get into them who are we going for okay Byron: Well. Chad: so NBC predictions Taranaki Bulls in Auckland does their Byron: Auckland. Chad: their last five meets Auckland just take it average points so give me a Byron: Actually you know what, the way the Bulls played at home last week, I'm gonna go Taranaki. Chad: No one's gonna have a draw for that game. Hell yeah. Hawke's Bay and Otago. Byron: F*#king balls on toast! Chad: last five meetings. I absolutely loved this last five meetings for two Hawks bait one to a Targa. Byron: Yeah, we're going Hawks Bay. Can't handle the jandle. Chad: They can't. Nobody can handle the jandal. I can't even, why even let me Byron: No one's handling the scandal. Chad: click on the button? 100%. Byron: look at that. Chad: They have plenty and turbos. my... Byron: I'm going the going bay of plenty on that one. Chad: Yeah, last five. Look at the average points there. 56 to 16. Byron: Yes. That's forken hidings. Fuck those rap we Chad: Fuck this rugby. And this game, I have been thinking about maybe going up because this is not being played in Nelson. It's being Byron: Yeah. Chad: played in a place called Blenheim, which is not far from us. But they're having a double header with the girls playing first and then the boys come in and play after in Blenheim. So I might see if I can book a hotel and take the fan bam up there because the little boys. love the rugby and they just want to go see this they call them the sharks and i'm all for it like can we go Byron: Ha ha ha. Chad: watch the sharks i'm like yes we can Byron: Well, I don't think we need to harp on it for too long. It's gonna be Tasman Marco since F*#king lions can't finish a slice of toast. but that would be sick if you do get to go. I love a doubleheader. Chad: Yeah, so I was thinking about that. was looking at accommodations that today because I don't feel like technically we could drive there and drive back but it's going to be 5pm kick off. Byron: That'll be a cuck way to end a fun evening to drive back. Chad: Yeah. Warkato and Ganterbury. I almost called them the Crusaders. Byron: oof oof Chad: It's me, a kitty. Byron: I'ma go home team just for just for just Chad: I would have gotten... Canterbury. Here we go. Counties and stags. Byron: You don't even need to ask don't ask me this question. Stags. Chad: Thanks. Byron: Although looking at the the table, it it's it's 50-50. But I'm going stags, because I don't think county. Chad: Yeah. You guys digs? Byron: I'm going stags. What's the last game of the week? Chad: And then North Harbour, I absolutely hope that Northland gets absolutely mauled. Byron: Chad, don't be sad because they're better than you. Chad: I am sad. I was ready to see the red burn shield. The red burley. Yeah. I was ready for it. So out of spite, I want to go North Harbour. Byron: Okay, then pick pick North Harbour. I won't I w I won't No, I won't take it away from you. Pick Chad: No, no, you're doing the predictions. Who are you choosing here? Okay. Byron: Pick Pick Pick Chad: Alright, let me- Byron: Pick Sick. Thanks, Blitz Rugby. That's fun. Chad: It was fun. I love doing this. Byron: You didn't put the predictions Chad: What else? Byron: in for the curry cup, did you? Chad: Negative. Byron: Put them in quickly, we already know what it is. Requas Chad: gonna go Lions. Byron: I want to go Lions, but you know, we gotta gotta do it. Chad: properly. Byron: Proprimen properties, sai and in chitos! I think they'll wanna Chad: Yeah, that one I could see. Byron: they want to come back from what they fucked up last week. Okay, Chad, it's time before we dive into the game of the weekend. Quick one, Argentina, Chad: Mm. Byron: Australia. Chad: watched a little bit of it and then was bored and then watched the highlights. Byron: Do you think that they both missed out on the opportunity to have a three or four match test series in Australia? Chad: I think what's going to end up happening is after the success that is the greatest rivalry is that there will be other smaller competitions between nations before that. And Australia and Argentina is a fantastic one to have. I think there'll be more of them. Byron: Like how s like I believe that Australia would have filled out three or four stadiums if you played a game each week against Argentina. And I think for both unions, the amount of money that it could have generated. You know what? Even if Australia wanted to play Japan so badly, because it's one of the only teams they win against these days. Chad: Fucking hell, okay. Byron: Why do I say such stupid shit all the time? Chad: And it's always so hateful. That was filled with... that was filled with... Byron: But it's not meant to be. Chad: Well, brother, that's Byron: Ha ha Chad: how it came out. I don't know how to break it to you. You sounded like a F*#king proper doers. Yeah. Byron: Our proper hater. but they could have had their own little tri match series. Chad: That's why I say I think what's gonna happen is cause the greatest robbery happens every four years I think things like that will start happening more and more so I think between each of those four years will be other series that can Promote it a bit more and played it bit more. So like Argentina Byron: I hope so. Chad: and Australia Japan verse whoever I'm Byron: I think it'll be sick. Chad: all for it. I mean this has been an absolute success so far for the greatest robbery of Byron: I mean, how cool will it be think of a nation maybe that's on par with them? It's gonna come across as rude. Chad: Who Japan? Byron: Wales, Japan, three match series in Japan, as an example. Chad: Yeah, and then switch over to think, I even think, get sumo, get sumo, get Tonga, verse Japan. Fiji, Fiji, Fiji, Japan, Byron: Not bad. And also also has Chad: done. Byron: Fiji Japan Tonga Samoa. Chad: Yeah, get them in. There we go. We've locked in four years of rugby. You're welcome. Byron: Yeah. Russi, I know you're listening. Chad: forward this clip onto World Ragby, let's make it happen. Byron: But I'm just thinking like a tour, let's just say Fiji, which is I think a great a great option. Fiji doing a three match tour in Japan as an example. How good for the Japanese club sides as well? Chad: Yeah, 100%. I mean, half of them are South African, so it's also benefit to South Africa and New Zealand. Byron: Well at that point you'll have most of the internationals out of the sides. Yeah. But anyway, I think they missed a beat there. I think I think they should have capitalized on it as well. All right, Chad. Where do we start on Springbox All Blacks? 'Cause the whole pod's been building up to this moment. Chad: can we start off with the F*#king plane? Fly over? Brother, Byron: Okay. Chad: if that plane was any lower, would it be named as player 23? It was... Byron: There there was a split second. Chad: You Byron: There was, you know, there was a little moment in my head where I go, What happens if that hits for stadium? Chad: Look, apparently it was like 12 meters or something from the stadium. Byron: Yes, I saw was between forty and forty-five feet above, which is still within the regulations of what they planned and it was completely safe. And even if that's all true, I had a moment where I thought that plane was gonna hit the stadium. Chad: Yeah. Byron: And the worst part is my wife's got a fear of flying, and she was watching. And in my head, I was like, I'm never allowed to go to another rugby game, I'm never allowed to fly anywhere if that F*#king plane hits the stadium. Chad: You selfish dog. Always Byron: Ha ha ha! Chad: just thinking about yourself. Not about the thousands of people that would have been hit by a plane. Byron: Tens of thousands of people that would have been injured from a F*#king plane hitting a stadium. Chad: But yeah, she was close. Byron: Beautiful look. Chad: absolute... I reckon that pilot knew exactly what he was doing and was just striking the fear of God into New Zealand. Byron: Well there's a there's a con Instagram, South African is it called Cool Story Bro or something like that? He's a South Chad: That's all. Byron: African guy who just talks about South African news, which I I really enjoy listening to. And he was talking about how the pilots said that it was planned, was in regulation, Chad: sick. Byron: and they they had it completely under control and everyone's overreacting. Chad: That is a very South African thing to say. Byron: Brother, nothing wrong happened. What are you bitching about? Fuck it. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah, we're good. I had the best view Chad: Yeah, I know. We got, we got... Yeah. Can we just play the game? Give me a brandy, we sweet. Byron: of the in the house. Let's move on. Chad: Yeah. Byron: But did you die? Chad: Yeah, exactly. Byron: okay, so first things first, Jesse Krill scoring within the first two minutes. Chad: came out absolutely Byron: Spectacular. Chad: bling. I've seen a lot of... comments about that try and how it was scored with Dionne Furey apparently taking the tackle off the ball a little bit. Byron: Not hear or see that. Interesting. Chad: Yeah, Dionne Farie. I heard was he took off the ball. It's questionable. Definitely, I don't think it was intentional, but did play off the ball a little bit to score that try. But look, I think he would have scored. Byron: But if that's the case, then you you've got to go back to was it Fabian Holland in the last game where we had that try chalked off? So anyway. Chad: Yeah. But yeah, I mean, let's not F*#king point fingers here, mate. Byron: All right, let's let's not Russy and Rennie this thing. Let's just talk the game. Chad: Yeah, that's, look, I think you would have scored regardless, even though, Dion three was in that spot. I'll put a little picture up before we move on. But yeah. that's how you want to come Byron: Sick I didn't know that. Chad: in. That's like one of the only ways to come out and. and beat the obliques. Byron: Start a game. Start a game like a bat out of hell. It was so impressive. And then the first opportunity we had to kick for poles, we took it. Chad: boys listen to the pod. It's not a carry cup game. Byron: And Chesie can't miss. Chad: Brother, Cheslin is the boy. He is more reliable Byron: Is it Chad: than Pollard at this point, which is an ungodly Byron: Bruh Chad: thing to say. Byron: Scrum off Wing Kicker Stepper Whatever you want kicker catcher jumper Chad: Brother, we should put it in government and you can just run it all, do it all. Byron: Yeah. You can be the minister of whatever's needed on the day. Chad: Yep, we can just change. Byron: Minister of whatever is needed. Then Chad: Yeah. Byron: I got so I had some some some streaming issues. So I watched with Kiwi commentary in the first half and South African commentary in the second half. And there was a moment in the first half where the commentator said something that just Chad: Hang on which comments are we talking about South Carolina kiwis? yeah. Byron: Kiwi, first half. Chad: Yep Byron: He said something that just blew my mind where you could get to the point of saying this when looking at the reality, and it's so different from what is actually happening. So there was a moment and he goes, can we look back at that? It's Fabian Holland manhandling Ibn Etsabeth. Chad: yes yes yes yes, I was exactly talking about it. Byron: And then you watch the replay, Itzabeth bounces the fuck out of Mackenzie, puts Mackenzie on his ass, and before he can even gain momentum again, he's going into Fabian Holland, and Fabian Holland tackles him at full speed. If you understand physics, that Chad: Yeah. Byron: makes sense. If even It's a beth's going backwards. And I run into him, there's a fifty chance, fifty percent chance he's going down. I'm not gonna say a hundred because. Chad: Yeah. Is that a challenge? that a challenge? Hang on. Is that a challenge to imanence? Did you just challenge imanence? Byron: Yes there's a condition Chad: Yeah, what's this condition? Byron: He he has to first run into oxen chair. Chad: OK, that's. Byron: And after Ox hits him and he's falling backwards, then I get to run at even Etsy Beth. Otherwise Chad: Okay. I still think you pull a Hemi on doing that. Byron: Yeah, yeah I'm I get one shot. Chad: Yeah. Byron: I I'll never be able to take a second. But he's going Chad: Yeah. Okay. Done. Byron: down. I'm going down with him, but he's going down. So yeah, I just thought that was it was just a crazy thing to say because what did you expect to happen after he while he was falling backwards after bouncing McKenzie? Chad: There was another comment I get in the first like 10 minutes and basically said that the spring box looked tired. I was like, one, we're at sea Byron: Brother. Brother Chad: level and these are professional athletes. I don't think anybody's capable of being tired. Byron: Tired. No, and they're out there fighting a war, basically. Chad: Yeah. Byron: And you're going, it looks a little lazy. No, there's no they're giving everything in every contact position. Crazy thing. Chad: What did you think of the scrums this week? Byron: Hold on. before we even get to the scrums, I want to talk about another controversial call in the first half. Chad: Yep, hit beat. Byron: Sasha Feinberg and Gomezulu's knock-on that wasn't called a knock on. In the second track. Chad: Yeah. Byron: And they were like, we need to go back and look at the knock on. It's the one where he tried to pick it up and then foul forward and the ball stayed behind him. Chad: yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Byron: And then the TMO was like, I hadn't seen these angles. It's not clear and obvious. We can move on. And I was like, Hold on. I've seen balls go backwards that are called knock-ons because he lost control. Chad: Think forward, yeah. Byron: so I would say Sasha lost control of that ball. Whether or not it went forwards or back, I'd I'd have to watch more replays, more angles. But it it he made a very quick decision that it's not clear and obvious, and we can move on. And I was like, if I can give that a second look. Just like last week, they didn't give those two tries a second look. I think it deserved a second look. sorry, go on a batch of scrums, please. Please, please, please. Yes. Chad: I was a question for you. What did you think of the scrums this week? Obviously all of the talk in the media from Dave Reddy saying that the box are stepping out Byron: Walking around Chad: and walking around. And obviously Byron: So Chad: completely different. Wasn't as dominant as we were in week one. Byron: No, but I think that's completely fair. We're it's it's not as if and this is I wish there was a better choice of words, but it's not as if the all blacks forward pack is a pushover. Chad: They were last week. No, not last Byron: They weren't though. Like we won a few penalties, yes. Chad: week. I'm talking about the first week. Byron: yeah, yeah, yeah. I see you're saying. I think that the the the I still think that the South African scrum is the dominant one out of the two. But I think that it it is easy is the wrong word, but it is easier to hook your ball and stay steady. I don't think they're trying to push the spring box off their own ball. it's off the all blacks ball. Does that make sense? They're just Chad: Yep. Yep, yep, yep. Byron: trying to secure it. And I think that's a perfect strategy for them. And I think they've got the skill and the strength to do it. I still think we have the dominant scrum. but I think I think the all blacks are just that F*#king good. Chad: Yeah, I agree with you. That doesn't happen often. Byron: You can't you I don't think there's a a place on the field where you can absolutely dominate the all blacks. Even if you can for one week, they'll fix it by week number two. Yeah. Chad: Yeah, what happened again? Yep. Byron: No, they're F*#king good. All the respect in the world to the All Blacks, man. They're a good F*#king side. What do I have here? the first tries for the All Blacks came off first or second phase play from a line out, spreading it wide. I'm hoping that we can defend a little wider come next week when it's line out time. Because they get Chad: I think. Byron: the ball to Will Jordan on the outside, and then he breaks Chad: Any walks are due. Byron: 17 tackles before someone brings him down. It's F*#king annoying. It's like he's got F*#king Chad: Yeah. Byron: oil on his legs. Chad: Maybe he does. Byron: I hope not. That wouldn't be very nice. Chad: For that game though, I mean, I know the tries you're talking about. I think that that was just a well executed set piece where they looked like they were going to maul and they just didn't. They just so quickly. Byron: But they spread the wall the ball to the wing so quickly and and also when they're there, there's always at least a a one or two man overlap. Always. It's very impressive. It's so good to watch. Chad: And when you've got your Will Jordan and Mackenzie, it's... Byron: Bro, Mackenzie's break. I don't even remember when it was in the game, but he ran right through the F*#king middle of the field. And no one touched him. Chad: I know, makes it look like no one is there, yeah. Byron: Jesus, man. Also, I think the most poetic moment of that game was Sio Khaleesi's try. Chad: Yep. Byron: And for those of you that maybe didn't pick up on it, Sasha kicked a ball to the wing that looked like it was going out, no one was gonna touch it. Then F*#king Cheslin Colby got on his bicycle and Chad: You Byron: somehow forced a knock-on by the All Blacks. South Africa won a scrum five meters out. What does Russi do? Brings on Ox, brings on Malcolm Chad: The Byron: Ox. Chad: that that was that was like the the 38th minutes or something ridiculous. Let me Byron: Yes. Chad: see. Yeah Byron: Then we scrum, we win a penalty, we choose to scrum again. We scrum, we get the advantage. Chad: Break it. Byron: Then there's a few phases. Then see a Khaliesi, Captain Mr. South Africa himself, scores the try by breaking a tackle from his good mate Ardi Sevilla. It's Chad: Yeah. Byron: it's it's poetry. Chad: How could after that the tackle that Cia did on Audi we absolutely flattened him over after that line out. Byron: I loved it. And then after the game the Ardy's kids are giving me a hug and and Jeez and a s I F*#king I love the sport, man. I love this sport. Chad: That's why I love rugby. Yeah, it's it's so good. Look at us both. I just F*#king rearing. It's so, so good. What a game. Byron: Also when Sia got up and he's banging the badge and he's just screaming into the c I almost started crying. I was like, This is this is as good as it F*#king gets. It doesn't get better than this. Chad: It must be such an emotional drain for both teams, but more so for the All Blacks because they've played a fuck ton of rugby in these last couple of weeks. Byron: On this tool, yeah. Chad: By the end of it, for that Baltimore one, yeah, it's not like it's... Byron: And hard right be. Chad: Yeah, it's not just like you're running the motions. It's hectic. Byron: I got such strong F*#king players. losing Chad: yep. Byron: Damian Villemsa at halftime. I thought I was like, okay, what's gonna happen? Because he was so good in the air the whole first half. Chad: Code Brown. Yeah. Yeah. So is Ethan Hooker though. Ethan Hooker also needs to get his roses. He played an unreal game. Byron: I know that on occasion he he missed a few tackles on Will Jordan. But it's also because he was he was scrambling back to tackle Jordan. But in the air, I think Chad: Yeah. Also, Will Jordan. Byron: he got the was that? Chad: I said it's also Will Jordan though. Byron: It's also Will Jordan, exactly. but in the air, I would say he won 90% of the battles. He was brilliant in the air. Chad: Yeah, no, did good. Byron: F*#king Esther Hazen coming on at six. Chad: Yep. Byron: Rather, he played the best bulldozer. Chad: That's what he's literally built for. Byron: Every opportunity he got, he just ran straight. Yet him and Vissa don't know Chad: Gah. Byron: how to stop running. Even when someone hits them, they just they still go forward. Chad: What happens when Quacha comes back? You Byron: I don't know. I don't know. Chad: Yeah. Byron: What else? yeah, that's what I had on Ethan Hooker. I've got another commentary moment. A commentary moment of the week. Chad: Hit me. Byron: Goes to Shimzi. The South, I told Chad: Yeah. Byron: you, second half. I had South African commentary. Chad: I'm Mrs. Evgeny Kometry, yep. Byron: shimmy did Graham Smith dirty. Dirty. There was, I don't I don't Chad: Yeah. Come. Byron: it was obviously in your broadcast they had Graham Smith on the screen and he was sitting with his wife. Chad: yeah. Byron: shimmy goes, There's another captain, the Protea, the cricket captain, although he's looking a lot more like a rugby player these days. Chad: Shimmy That's F*#king perfect. Byron: I thought that was foul. I could just look, obviously when Graham Smith Yeah, yeah. Chad: The irony of it coming from a PROP too. Byron: And look, he wasn't wrong, but also Graham Smith's a retired athlete. Let let Chad: Athlete, yeah. Byron: But he you know he looked he looked thick. I thought it was hilarious. Absolutely hilarious. Well Chad: At least that is gold. Byron: done, Shimzy. That one cracked me up. We should clip that one and tag him in it. I loved it. Tag him and Graham. did you notice a difference in the second half with Malcolm Marks? Chad: Yes. Byron: In the first half, I don't think besides the ones that were off kicks and breakaways, I don't think South Africa got any turnover penalties in the first half. Chad: I that was a one from, no, no, no, yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah, I know what mean. Yeah. Byron: Yeah, but that was the w that was the one off the break of the the kick, yeah. Malcolm Marks, if I'm not mistaken, got three in the second half. Chad: Well, that's what he does, Byron: It was it Chad: He's the Taoba Taoba Nawe of the Springbox. Byron: And then I know we said we took the first three points, but we got it we took four penalty shots at goal. 12 points, and we won that game by seven. You exactly. You have to Chad: Yep. Well, we scored less tries than the All Blacks. They scored more tries than us and we still won. And that's what we said last week. Byron: you have to take any opportunity to score points against the all blacks. And it worked for us. Chad: Do you think it'll Byron: And then Chad: happen again? Byron: I hope so. I don't see why you would move away from a winning strategy. and then I've got one last point on the end of that game. For drama's sake. Chad: Yep, hit beat. Byron: Five minutes to go, there's only one try in it. Game is close. Lutter Yacht gets a yellow card with 45 Chad: yeah. Byron: seconds left in the game. The DJ, because the F*#king the all blacks get a penalty, they kick for touch. DJ starts playing zombie. Chad: ahead. Byron: And even when the DJ stopped playing, the whole crowd was singing, He's in your head, Rasi. Everyone, top of their lungs. Chad: He knew what he was doing. Byron: And then they throw the skewest line out in the whole F*#king game. He Chad: Yep, and nothing happens. Byron: he caught it on the outside of his outside shoulder, and Chad: Yep. Byron: we competed for the ball. Nothing was said. And you know, and then it it went to a few more phases and there was the knockout and we won the game. But you you you that one was as clear and obvious as a skew line out. It should have been the end of the game there and then. I wonder what sort of explosion of hate Angus Gardner would have gotten if the All Blacks scored off that line out and Chad: It scored and it was a draw. Byron: and drew and drew the game. Chad: Look, I... Yeah, I was bad. I know you... Byron: 'Cause that was that was obviously skewed. Obvious. It's it wasn't even it's not a debate. Chad: Yeah. Byron: Anyway, what a game of rugby. Start to finish. Look, we scored the first try in the first two minutes, and until the eightieth minute was non stop competitive action. Chad: It did look like that, but I did feel that whole game that we had the, the advantage. Like I didn't feel like at any point of that game, we had lost control. If that makes sense. Byron: I got nervous in the last 10 minutes. Especially Chad: I did. Byron: when they scored that tried to make it a one-score game. Chad: Yeah, Byron: I thought. Chad: up until then, I was. Iffy, but... Byron: Not confident, but I was I was optimistic at that point until then. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Chad: Yeah. I think when Colby hit that penalty in the 70 something minutes, I was like, okay, we got this. That's when I was all right. Then they scored a couple of minutes later. was like, eee, code brown. Byron: Yeah. Yeah. Fuck it's such good rugby. It's it's Chad: I know, and we get to watch it again. Byron: and again. We've got two more. Chad: Yeah. Yeah. Byron: I've only got one more rugby thing to talk about. I don't know if you had anything else. Chad: I wanted to ask about the Rusty, naming the squad and then changing it 24 times. Byron: Hold on, there's even one more wrinkle in that. He named a squad with a slash. Chad: Yeah, a 24 man squad and then changed a 24 man squad about 24 times. Byron: it is a little weird. Chad: I don't think it's right. I don't think it's right. think if you're going to name your Byron: No, but look, Chad: school. Yeah. Byron: it it is weird that rugby you announce your squad so early beforehand because you still have training sessions and warm-up. before like so like in football, it's it's announced an hour before kickoff. And sometimes it changes because someone niggles something during warm-up. for rugby, it's cool that we announce it so early. And I think you should allow for injury changes. But I do think it's a little crazy that we changed the whole front row moments before kickoff. Chad: Yeah. Byron: But to be fair, it was still the same players. It wasn't exactly as if we chose a new front three. We just changed Chad: Yeah, I know. Byron: the starters versus the the the replacements. Changed the bomb squad Chad: Yeah, Byron: basically. Chad: but even that, like it's it's a- Byron: Yeah, I don't think it's in the spirit of the game, as they say. Chad: Yeah, I think it's a bit weird. I don't love it, but it's for us. So, fat and fluffy. Byron: Do you think it worked though? Chad: Did we win the game? Byron: Yeah, but do you think that changing the the the the front three moments before kickoff, or was it four hours before kickoff, was the difference? Chad: I think it would, it's as, so before that, Rossi named his team to what, like a week before, like the Monday, So, yeah. Byron: Yeah, 'cause he he said he already knew the second team starting lineup before. Chad: So then the All Blacks, as an All Blacks player, you get told probably on the Monday, Tuesday, you're going to be starting. So you think I'm scrubbing again. Byron: And then you're preparing to scrum ox. Chad: Yeah. And then you're not scrubbing ox. And then you are scrubbing ox just two minutes before the second half. Byron: Yeah, d when you can't breathe, ox is like my turn. Yeah. Yeah. Chad: Yeah. So like it's got to, there has to be something, might not be massive, but like if you are mentally preparing to scrub someone and then you're not scrubbing that oak and like you've been. Byron: And to be fair, at that level, it really is about fractions of a percentage that makes the difference. Yeah. Chad: Exactly, that's what I'm saying. Byron: No, I agree. I I do I do think that it I hope it doesn't happen this weekend. That's that that's the very best we can say towards it. Chad: Let me check if he's named the squad. Who knows this? Byron: You named it last week already. What are talking Chad: Yeah. Byron: about? You announced it at the presser after the game. Chad: Nothing hasn't ended yet, but that doesn't mean that you won't do it. Byron: Yeah. No, it's ex I can't wait for next week. It's so hard to even try and guess what's gonna happen. The only thing I know for sure is it's gonna Chad: yeah. I dunno. Byron: be good F*#king rugby. Chad: The one guaranteed thing. Byron: anything else before I tell you my little story from yesterday? Chad: No, hit me with your story barn. Byron: So yesterday was dach for the schietsrechters. Chad: That is a very, very Dutch sentence that's just come out of your mouth. Byron: Yes. So in English, day for the referees. So it was a gathering of all the referees within the Netherlands. and they had representatives there from War Rugby. And we broke broke out into four different groups and we worked on what are the new rules. So the to each station one was All about refereeing in the Netherlands and the new rules for 2026-2027 season, how we should ref them and what we're looking for. Then they had a station focused solely on scrums and how to referee scrums for the new year, according to World Rugby. same thing for the lineouts, and then the other one was for positioning as a referee at the breakdown. Where you should stand, and if you're standing there. What are the pros and cons? And if you're standing on this side, what are the pros and cons? Because obviously there isn't always a perfect position to be in. but if you're in a position, these are the things to look out for. So it was very helpful because I've only been refereeing for half a season, even less. and as the in the Netherlands, the season starts in September for the rugby season. It's Chad: so it's starting now. Nah, it's lecker. Byron: yeah, it will start in about two weeks for the games that I'll be refereeing. and I thought it was extremely helpful. I had a bunch of questions that they answered, which I thought I knew the rules. These people, if you thought we were autistic about rugby, Chad, Chad: Yeah. Byron: it was brilliant. I also got to meet the the top ref here in the Netherlands, Chad: Yep. Byron: a lady, a lady from the UK. But one of the cool things that I thought I'd share is in a line out, if you if the attacking team catches the ball to form a mall, and that ball is knocked on before the mall the mall moves past the mark, it's technically a not a line out knock on. So you the opposing team has the option. No, excuse me, I don't have Chad: on it. Byron: the option. It goes straight to a scrum. But the scrum's Chad: Yeah. Byron: on the fifteen, not where the knockout knock-on happened. But if the mall moves past the mark, then the line out is over, then the knock-on will be wherever the knock-on occurred from the mall. Chad: There we go. Byron: Very small rule, but I'm glad I learned it. Chad: Maybe we should make it a segment, barring a small rule. Byron: Small rule of the day. There it is. and then the other one that I thought was pretty cool, not at law, so we'll I'll maybe we'll do a new one each week. I like this idea for a segment. but it's not going to be called a goal line dropout this season, it's a Chad: It's gonna be cold. Byron: try-line dropout. Chad: Why make that change? Byron: Cause you don't for you don't score a goal in Rahbi Chad. Score a try. It's a Chad: Mmm. Byron: try line, not a goal line. Chad: That actually makes sense. I don't like it either, but it does Byron: It does. I don't like it though, but it does make sense. Chad: make sense. Yep. After you explain it like that, I actually can't argue with it. I'm with you. Byron: So I don't know I don't know like how it goes into effect, but it's it's a try line dropout, not a goal line dropout for neck for this coming season. Chad: I wonder how many people will fuck it up and still call it a... I at end of the day, it actually doesn't matter, but Byron: I will fuck it up. I guarantee you on the field No. Chad: yeah. Byron: I know for a fact at least once next season I will say, it's a goal line dropout and not even think that I said it wrong. Chad: So if a player comes, if a 19 or 18 year old comes and says, sorry, it's a trial on, do you penalize him for talking back to the referee? Byron: No, I'll go, hey, you're totally right. You're a cunt, but you're totally right. Chad: Yeah, nice one, Durs. Byron: Yo, I actually you know I can't swear on the field, so I I think if I drop duas, no one will know what's going on. Or Puss. Then you know why are you calling me a cat? Chad: There you go. You're welcome. Yeah. Yeah. Byron: all right. Chan, I think we cut the cuck. Chad: I think we did. I think that was fun. That was a good one. I enjoyed it. Byron: Well, you know, when the rugby's good, the pod's good. It's got nothing to do with us. Chad: Yep. And hopefully the the pilots next week are doing barrel rolls and we can see some more cool shit. Byron: Imagine airliner doing a barrel roll. Chad: If anyone's gonna do it, gonna be a sad African pilot from a link. It's Byron: Ha ha ha ha. Chad: If anyone can do it we can Byron: all right. shout out to those that watched last week's video. It it seemed to have done very well. So thank you all for watching. Thank you all for subscribing, thank you all for sharing, commenting, doing all the things. we just love rugby. That's it. That's all I want to say. Chad: do and we will see you next week. Byron: Yes, Chad, we cut the kak