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Marilyn Monroe Was Murdered? | Cosmic Peach · Ryder Lee

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  Speaker 2: Hi, Thanks for having me writer. I've been looking forward
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was on your show, so I thought that
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  Speaker 1: And we have a really interesting topic to discuss here today,
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  Speaker 1: which is Marilyn Monroe. Oh my god, this is one
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  Speaker 1: of the first conspiracies I think that I ever really heard.
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  Speaker 1: Where was it all on your list?
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  Speaker 2: So I kind of grew up idolizing Marilyn a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: you know, she's still so iconic. And when I got
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  Speaker 2: into looking into JFK is how I started connecting dots
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  Speaker 2: with me Marilyn, and then I stumbled across this book.
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  Speaker 2: I got the book because it has two chapters, one
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  Speaker 2: on RFK and one on JFK. It's called Dead Wrong
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  Speaker 2: and it's a conspiracy book. It's actually written by a
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  Speaker 2: comedian and some of the best conspiracy theorists out there
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  Speaker 2: are comedians I've found out. But yeah, it's a really
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  Speaker 2: great book. And there was another chapter on Marylyn and
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  Speaker 2: how there's no way when you actually look at the
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  Speaker 2: forensic evidence in the autopsy of Marylyn that she could
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  Speaker 2: have committed suicide. And I would say that she is
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  Speaker 2: one of the first cases of someone getting suicided and
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  Speaker 2: everyone just being like, oh, okay, well, I guess she
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  Speaker 2: was just really depressed and took a bunch of pills.
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  Speaker 2: Case closed in, moving on, and it's just simply was
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  Speaker 2: not the case with Marylyn.
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  Speaker 1: autopsy of Allan Monroe, because we know that there's weird
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  Speaker 1: autopsies with like all of these people. Okay, there's a
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  Speaker 1: weird JFK autopsy that depict the things that weren't seeing
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  Speaker 1: in the Zubruta film. There's uh there there was no
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  Speaker 1: photos of Oswald's autopsy. There was just a drawling so weird.
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  Speaker 1: So what did the official autopsy say was the cause
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  Speaker 1: of death? I mean, obviously they're saying that it's suicide, right,
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  Speaker 1: but was there anything else within the autopsy?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, so her official cause of death was a cute
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  Speaker 2: barbituate poisoning. The official verdict was suicide, but the deputy
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  Speaker 2: medical examiner later went back with a pencil and wrote
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  Speaker 2: in the word probable because he was not convinced that
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  Speaker 2: it was a suicide. Even though they were dead set
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  Speaker 2: on listing it as a suicide. He went back and
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  Speaker 2: literally penciled in the word probable because there was just
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  Speaker 2: a lot to be suspicious about on the official verdict
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  Speaker 2: of suicide. And so we all kind of know that
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  Speaker 2: Marilyn was most likely and actually confirmed to be having
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  Speaker 2: like an intimate relationship with not only John F. Kennedy,
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  Speaker 2: but Robert two. She was documented in several of her
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  Speaker 2: psychiatric sessions that were recorded as having sexual affairs with
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  Speaker 2: both of them, also with Sam g and Kanna of
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  Speaker 2: the Chicago Mob and Frank Sinatra, Johnny Roselli who is
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  Speaker 2: also Chicago Mob, and then a Soviet intelligence age named
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  Speaker 2: Frederick Field. So this woman definitely had some interesting connections
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  Speaker 2: and that that does play a part into how I believe,
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  Speaker 2: based on the evidence with her autopsy and her life,
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  Speaker 2: that she probably just got into something that she was
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  Speaker 2: way in, way over her head and she had to
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  Speaker 2: get dealt with. So once she started developing this relationship
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  Speaker 2: with Frederick Field, this Soviet intelligence guy, her house was
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  Speaker 2: bugged by the Mob and separately by the US government,
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  Speaker 2: So she actually was getting double tapped at her house.
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  Speaker 2: So she every move she made, every phone call she made,
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  Speaker 2: she was being watched, not only by the Mob but
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  Speaker 2: by the US government. And so that was all clean
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  Speaker 2: up after her alleged suicide. There were a lot of
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  Speaker 2: her personal items that were stolen from the house. There
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  Speaker 2: were cabinets where she had written in journals and that
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  Speaker 2: they were in locked cabinets that got busted open the
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  Speaker 2: night that she committed suicide and all the journals were stolen.
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  Speaker 2: There was some other interesting artifacts that were taking from
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  Speaker 2: Marilyn's house the night she committed suicide. All of this,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, would be unlikely if someone simply swallowed
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  Speaker 2: a bottle of pills. Why would it be necessary to
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  Speaker 2: break in and vandalize someone's home. Why would it be
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  Speaker 2: necessary to bug someone's house? Why would it be necessary? Like,
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  Speaker 2: there was just too much going on for me to
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  Speaker 2: think like, oh, she was just depressed and she killed
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  Speaker 2: herself and the corner I think it was Actually no,
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  Speaker 2: it was the medical examiner. His name was doctor Thomas Negucci.
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  Speaker 2: And this guy's never been Are you familiar with him?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I know Nagucci.
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  Speaker 2: Really what case did you stumble upon with Nogucci?
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  Speaker 1: This was involved with JFK. I believe.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's done a lot of slebs and politicians and
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  Speaker 2: he's never been discredited.
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  Speaker 1: K I'm sorry, Yeah, examiner for RFK, I believe.
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  Speaker 2: So, as far as I can tell, he's never been discredited.
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  Speaker 2: But he's kind of obscured.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that his determination was that RFK was
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  Speaker 1: shot like almost point blank range.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, So I guess you could agree then that
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  Speaker 2: his findings are generally sometimes obscured because they're a little
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  Speaker 2: bit too true for people to come across, like Nobody
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  Speaker 2: wants the sky out here saying RFK was shot at
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  Speaker 2: point blank range. Nobody wants the sky out here saying
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  Speaker 2: Maryland didn't kill herself. So, I mean, he's never been
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  Speaker 2: discredited as far as I know, but he has been
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  Speaker 2: kind of hidden from public view as far as like,
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  Speaker 2: he's never been asked to go on Doctor Phil and
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  Speaker 2: talk about the real what he really found with like
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  Speaker 2: the Maryland autopsy or something like that. But so he
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  Speaker 2: found absolutely no trace of tablets in Maryland's stomach period.
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  Speaker 2: He said it was completely empty, and that her intestines
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  Speaker 2: were completely empty. And actually she hadn't even eaten or
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  Speaker 2: or drank anything that day besides water. So she had
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  Speaker 2: been completely fasted, obviously in some type of like emotional upset,
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  Speaker 2: which I'll kind of talk about later, but she hadn't
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  Speaker 2: even eaten that day, and there were no tablets found
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  Speaker 2: in her stomach or her intestine. And computer analysis compiled
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  Speaker 2: all the pharmaceutical data and concluded that in order to
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  Speaker 2: reach the levels that Marilyn had in her system, she
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  Speaker 2: would have had to have swallowed sixty to seventy nimbutah
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  Speaker 2: tablets and nineteen to twenty chloral hydrate tablets. But yet
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  Speaker 2: there is no evidence whatsoever found in the stomach or
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  Speaker 2: the intestine of Maryland to suggest that any tablets were
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  Speaker 2: taken period. And that is the medical examiner, doctor Thomas Noguchi,
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  Speaker 2: and he did note that digestion stops at death. So
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  Speaker 2: with all suicide victims, without exception, there are undigested tablets
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  Speaker 2: found in the stomach and in the intestine. And because
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  Speaker 2: most of the time people take too much and they're
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  Speaker 2: dead before their body can even absorb the full amount
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  Speaker 2: of the tablets, so there's always like some undigestive tablets
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  Speaker 2: or what is called refractive crystals that are found in
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  Speaker 2: the stomach and the intestine. And refractive crystals are basically
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  Speaker 2: just what the tablets look like after they've been broken
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  Speaker 2: down and they're starting to be digested. It's like the remnants.
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  Speaker 2: And so in all suicide cases, without exception, when someone
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  Speaker 2: swallows an overdose of oral medication, let's just say, they
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  Speaker 2: die before their body even has a chance to break
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  Speaker 2: all of it down. And so there's always substantial residue
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  Speaker 2: in the stomach and intestine. And yet when we look
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  Speaker 2: at Maryland's it's clean. All she had drink that day
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  Speaker 2: was I think a little bit of grapefruit juice and
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  Speaker 2: some water. So where are the tablets if she had
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  Speaker 2: swallowed sixty to seventy nimbutohl in nineteen to twenty chlorohydrate tablets,
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  Speaker 2: where's the evidence of that? Do you have any thoughts
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  Speaker 2: before we move on?
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  Speaker 1: I'm just cres well, it seems like a way to well.
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  Speaker 1: First off, there's a lot of people that have had
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  Speaker 1: their place like raided after their death. Stanley Kubrick had
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  Speaker 1: their place rated after his death. Mary pinchrot Meyer, which
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  Speaker 1: was also another mistress of JFK, also had her house
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  Speaker 1: rated after she was found dead on the DC Towpath
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  Speaker 1: from a parent gunshot wounds, and that was done by
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  Speaker 1: James Jesus Angleton Okay and Mary pinchrow Meyer was married
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  Speaker 1: to the head of the CIA at the time, Cortmyer Okay,
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  Speaker 1: and her house was broken into and her diary. But
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  Speaker 1: you also have me thinking too, you know, because there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of you know, why were they Why were
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  Speaker 1: these people in suits going in and breaking into their
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  Speaker 1: house and taking all their stuff. A part of that
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  Speaker 1: could be because of the bugging of the house. They
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  Speaker 1: want to go in and get their bugs, they're listening
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  Speaker 1: devices out of their house before it's you know, there's
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  Speaker 1: a full scale investigation, and people find that their house
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  Speaker 1: was bugged. So that might be a good way. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure there's other reasons for that as well, but
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  Speaker 1: that one makes sense too, you know. And with the
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  Speaker 1: overdose thing, that seems like the the second option that
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  Speaker 1: they kind of go with. I mean, we've seen that
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  Speaker 1: in the Jeffrey Epstein the people that have there's been
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  Speaker 1: three Jeffrey Epstein victims that have all died of supposed
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  Speaker 1: accidental drug overdoses. Two of them are in West Palm Beach,
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  Speaker 1: Florida hotel room. The most recent one was Virginia. Jeffrey
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  Speaker 1: were now seeing that it was an accidental drug overdose. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: one or two can be a coincidence, but whenever it
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  Speaker 1: gets up into like three. And I also believe this
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  Speaker 1: is kind of off topic, but I also believe that
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  Speaker 1: they did that exact same thing to Prince. I believe
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  Speaker 1: that switched out Prince's medication from all people, Prince was
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  Speaker 1: never a drug addict. He didn't drink, he didn't do anything.
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  Speaker 1: So and all that was found there was really like
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  Speaker 1: bear tile in all bottles. Okay, So it's pretty easy
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  Speaker 1: to go in there and slip out those you know,
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  Speaker 1: those those tailand all tablets and put in some fitton
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  Speaker 1: Al pills, right, okay, And you think that you're taking
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  Speaker 1: a couple of tail and off for a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of back pain or to help you go to sleep
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  Speaker 1: at night or whatever it is that you're doing with
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  Speaker 1: the tailand halls, and you're really taking like a handful
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  Speaker 1: of fentomol pills. Well, but I'm just saying that it's
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  Speaker 1: it's highly possible that, I mean, that would be way
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  Speaker 1: to do it. So it seems like that that their
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  Speaker 1: modus operandi is suicide. Like you know that they hung themselves, okay,
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  Speaker 1: or they shot themselves or whatever that you want to.
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  Speaker 1: You can get into Kirk Cobaine from that as well.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there's been several the whole thing has been
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  Speaker 1: blown wide open. There's no possible way in the world
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  Speaker 1: that he could have used a shotgun to shoot himself
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  Speaker 1: in the head with this. Yeah, you would have to
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  Speaker 1: put your big toe into the trigger and then turn
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  Speaker 1: the shotgun around.
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  Speaker 2: So he somehow did it with his shoe on like,
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  Speaker 2: and he splashed his own tires after he shot himself and.
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  Speaker 1: Just exactly makes so much sense, a lot of sense.
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  Speaker 1: Everything kind of lines up on that one. But I
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  Speaker 1: think that the first one is like having them kind of,
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  Speaker 1: you know, go this way, and then we can make
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  Speaker 1: it look like that that's what they did. And then
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  Speaker 1: the option B is accidental drug overdose. I mean, wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: you Houston? Same thing? Yeah, same thing with Whnney Houston.
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  Speaker 1: I mean she was in the bathtub in the hotel
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  Speaker 1: room and then said that she took too many pills
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  Speaker 1: and then she drowned in the bathub. You know how
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  Speaker 1: hard it is to drown in a hotel bathtub. And
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  Speaker 1: then also when we look at Danny Casselero from the
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  Speaker 1: Octopus Murderers case, have you looked into that at all,
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  Speaker 1: Like he's in a hotel room and it's just insanity.
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  Speaker 1: But let's keep it on. Marilyn mon Rome, Sorry, my
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  Speaker 1: brain just kind of went off on a hole time.
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  Speaker 2: No, that's good. I think you know when we did
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  Speaker 2: the Clockwork Shining episode together, I think you or I
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  Speaker 2: some which one of us mentioned for Golson and how
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  Speaker 2: there's no way that was a freaking suicide. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they've they've been successful at pulling this off, going all
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  Speaker 2: the way back into time and just oh, it's a suicide.
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  Speaker 2: And then what bothers me the most about Marylyn is
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  Speaker 2: that they won't let it go that it was a suicide,
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  Speaker 2: and they keep making documentaries and they keep putting stuff
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  Speaker 2: out like on Netflix, and they'll make movies and they'll
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  Speaker 2: they'll show her as like a insanely depressed woman that
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  Speaker 2: just couldn't handle the fame, and like she she had
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  Speaker 2: like some miscarriages or something like that, or she stayed
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  Speaker 2: at like a mental hospital for a while and she
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  Speaker 2: just lost it and she just committed suicide. But if
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  Speaker 2: you took five seconds to look at her autopsy report,
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  Speaker 2: you'd see like, all right, yeah, maybe she got a
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  Speaker 2: little blue from time to time, sure everybody does. But
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  Speaker 2: did she kill herself? I don't think so. She was
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  Speaker 2: actually kind of an apple, and all of her housekeepers
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  Speaker 2: would have told you that, like she was very full
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  Speaker 2: of herself and she almost thought she was better than
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  Speaker 2: everybody else, And her psychiatrists even noted like she was
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  Speaker 2: very excited about some projects that she had coming up
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  Speaker 2: around the time of her alleged suicide, and that she
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  Speaker 2: was actually at the top of her game, and that
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  Speaker 2: they would never have suspected her to have wanted to
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  Speaker 2: commit suicide because she was feeling so good about everything.
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  Speaker 2: And actually she was being successfully weaned off the two
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  Speaker 2: medications that they found in her system. She didn't even
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  Speaker 2: have access to the amount that killed her because they
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  Speaker 2: were weaning her off of getting better. She didn't even
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  Speaker 2: need them as much. And so the huge levels that
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  Speaker 2: were found in her bloodstream made absolutely no sense for
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  Speaker 2: even the prescription that she had of the nimbutoh, like,
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  Speaker 2: she had so much. She had so much nimbutol and
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  Speaker 2: chlorohydrate in her bloodstream you could kill like five elephants.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody's getting a prescription for that, Like what like where
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  Speaker 2: where did she even get that much to begin with?
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  Speaker 2: You know? And according to the toxicologist, she had two
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  Speaker 2: point eight eight times that much chlorohydrate and nimbutol in
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  Speaker 2: her liver. So, however these drugs were introduced into the body,
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  Speaker 2: we know that it wasn't orally because there were no
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  Speaker 2: tablets found in her stomach or her intestine. But however
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  Speaker 2: the two drugs were introduced in the body was in
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  Speaker 2: such a rapid fashion it basically fried her liver and
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  Speaker 2: killed her before she could even so you know, when
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  Speaker 2: you die, you like purge, everything comes out to you know,
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  Speaker 2: no stops. She died before she died, before she could
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  Speaker 2: even evacuate her bowels, is what the autopsy report read.
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  Speaker 2: So her liver was fried, had two point eight eight
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  Speaker 2: times the amount of chlorohydrate and tall found in her bloodstream,
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  Speaker 2: and she died so rapidly she turned blue and she
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  Speaker 2: didn't even evacuate her bowels. So just with what I've
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  Speaker 2: told you so far, do you have any idea of
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  Speaker 2: how they could have introduced the drugs into her system
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  Speaker 2: in her die in this rapid way.
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  Speaker 1: Injection or like some kind of chloroform inhalent.
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  Speaker 2: So that's what I thought too, And so doctor Noguchi
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  Speaker 2: went over her body with a fine tooth comb, looking
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  Speaker 2: in between toes, fingers everywhere for an injection site. Because
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: of the rapidity of her death, he was sure it
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: had to be like a massive injection that just killed
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: her almost instantly. But what he found was actually she
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: had no puncture wounds, and that was eliminated as a possibility.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: But what he did find is that the back of
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: her body near her butt cheeks and her hips, the
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: backs of her arms and her legs were bruised, and
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: so she had been clearly held down, and her colon
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: was purple. It was swollen and it was bruised. And
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: the official cause of death that he listed was enema,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: one of the anima types and not the hose and
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: bag that a lot of people think of when they
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: think of it inema. It would actually be like, I
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: don't know if you've ever seen them, but it's like
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: a bulb type enema and you just shoot it up
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: your butt like really quick. People use them for like
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: coffee an emas and like weird stuff like that. I'm
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: not into it personally, but I know that there are
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: people who are not judging, but they there's these anima
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: bulbs that have like a short on them, and when
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: you squeeze them, they're introduced into the body rapidly and
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: then the point is to flush it right back out
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: and then move on with your life. But in this
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: case it was actually a weapon of choice, if you will,
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: of the mob during this time in the sixties to
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: use these anima bulbs to kill people. And so with
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: her connections to the Chicago Mob, Frank Sinatra, Johnny Roselli
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: all these weirdos and the vehicle in which they used
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: to kill her. I would assume that the mob had
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: something to do with it, because there were quite a
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: few bodies that turned up around the same time frame
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: in the sixties who had died of a massive drug
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: overdose via innimabulb. It was like their favorite thing to do.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: And her so not only had she been held down
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: because of the bruises on the backs of her arms
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: and legs in her hip, but because her colon was
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: purple and swollen and she had not been able to
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: evacuate her bowels, it would suggest that they were obstructed
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: in some way to prevent her from doing so. And
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: something else that stood out is that in the throes
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: of death, when you die of an oral sedative overdose,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: you regurgitate everywhere. Your body goes into complete evacuation mode.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: And when suicide victims are found that have died of
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: a sedative drug overdose orally, you'll find regurgitated material all
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: over the bed, the floor, the bathroom. Sometimes they're crawling
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: to the bathroom, they don't make it all the way.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: There's a trail of vomit behind them. The scene is
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: usually described as horrific. And in Marylyn's case, there was
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: no regurgitated material found anywhere she had not thrown up.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: And again there was no tablets in the stomach or
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: the intestine. So if she had taken seventy sleeping pills
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: mixed with twenty chloral hydrate, there would have been regurgitated material.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: And why in the fuck would her colon be purple
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: and swollen, and you know all these other indicators that
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: she had been given a rectal enema. I mean, it
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: also would explain why she died in such a rapid way,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: because once you get something rectally, it goes almost immediately
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: into the bloodstream and it can kill you way faster
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: than a slow oral overdose. You die with the quickness.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: So that is something else that stood out to me
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: as as being like, why is no one else talking
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: about this?
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Also, someone sayed her before death.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: I think so because and I actually think they negro
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: filed her. I think that they. I will explain why,
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: But I do feel like for a number of reasons,
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: they took their sweet ass time calling the police that night. Obviously,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: they took about four hours in between the time of
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: death and calling the police. The story in which they
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: tell why they took four hours to do so makes
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: no sense at all. And then we go back to
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: the autopsy report, and she had something called secondary and
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: tertiary lividity markings. So lividity is a monumental part of
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: forensic science because it can tell you in which position
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: the person died. Because when you die, your blood settles
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: in your body. It's called lividity. And so if you
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: find a deceased person and all their blood has settled
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: to their back, to the back of the head, in
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: their back, you know that they died face up. But
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: if you find someone with lividity where all their blood
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: has settled towards their face, you know they died face down.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Marilyn was found face down in the soldiers position, which
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: is arms down at the sides, legs kind of outward
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: and spread open. But that wouldn't make sense for a
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: suicide victim either, because not a lot of people die
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: in a soldier's position. It's usually a clear sign that
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: the body has been staged. So Marilyn was found in
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: this face down position, but she had lividity markings that
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: suggested she was that she died in a face down position,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: but she was rolled over onto her back for about
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: four hours, creating secondary lividity markings, and that she was
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: rolled back over onto her front, creating tertiary lividity markings.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: And basically she had been moved from uh face down,
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: face up, face down again within four hours after her death.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: So they were moving her body around several times, that
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: with the bruising. You tell me.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Who called the police, So that is.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: A great question. I'm glad you asked. They say that
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Marilyn's body was never moved, which is clearly a lie
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: because of the lividity markings. Lividity doesn't lie her housekeeper.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: This is the official stree, and trust me, it doesn't
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: make sense to me either, but just this is the
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: official story. Marilyn went to bed. Her housekeeper was up
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: doing some laundry, noticed that there was a light on
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: in Marilyn's bedroom around midnight. The housekeeper found that it
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: was unusual for Marilyn to be up that late. She
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: tried the door handle and knocked on the door. No response,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: so the housekeeper calls her psychiatrist, doctor Greenson. Doctor Greenson
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: arrives at the home a few minutes later, he tries
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: the door. He uh, you know, calls out to her.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: No response. So the official story is that doctor Greenson
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: ran around the front of the home, that he used
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: a rock to break open the bedroom window, in which
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: he crawled through the bedroom window, noticed that Marilyn was
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: dead and immediately called her physician, her general practitioner to
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: come to the house. He gets to the house, he
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: doesn't touch the body nothing. They just are like, yep,
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: she's definitely dead. So they call her publicist, then they
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: call her agents, and they call a couple other people.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: It takes about four hours for this entire transaction to
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: go down before they get the idea about four hours
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: later that they need to call the police, in which
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: one Sergeant Clemens arrived at the scene four hours after
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: doctor Greenson first arrived. He as a medical professionals and
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: her primary care provider, doctor Ingeleson I want or Ingelberg
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: I think is his last name. Neither one of them
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: tried to revive her. Neither one of them tried to
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: resuscitate her or they said that they didn't touch the
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: body whatsoever, just showed up at the house. They broke
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: in through the window. Sar laying on the bed and
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: was like, oh, she's dead, Let's call some publicists and
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: some agents and fuck around for about four hours, I
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: guess before they called the police finally, and when the
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: first officer on the scene arrived, he said that it
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: had been clearly staged crime scene and that the first
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: thing he noticed in regards to this story that they
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: told him is that why if you broke in from
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: the outside of the house into the bedroom to check
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: on Marylyn, is all the glass on the outside of
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: the window. And they had absolutely no answer for that whatsoever.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: It made zero sense, and Sergeant Clemens said that it
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: was the most obviously staged set up crime scene that
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: he had ever seen, and the house reeked of bleach
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: when he got there. He also noticed that although there
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: was a neatly knocked over pill bottle right next to Marylyn,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: there was no drinking glass of any kind that she
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: could have used to take these pills with. So Sergeant
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Clemens asked doctor Greenson if they had tampered with anything,
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: moved anything, if they had seen a drinking glass, and
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: doctor Greenson and doctor Ingelberg were both like, no, we
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: haven't touched anything. And he said, well, if she's taken
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: all these pills, like, where's this glass of where's a
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: glass of water, Where's anything that she could have used
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: to swallow these? So they start looking around and they
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: find out the water has been shut off to Marilyn's
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: home because she's remodeling, and it made it even further
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: improbable that she would have even had access to, like
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: drink some water out of the sink, have a glass
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: of water. Nothing. And then in the autopsy report it
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: showed that she had only had some grapefruit juice for
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: breakfast and that she didn't have pills or anything else
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: in her stomach. So obviously the pill thing was just
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: a setup. It was like a prop that they used
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: to try to explain how she died. Another thing that
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: was interesting is right before the the newspaper people or
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: whoever got there to like take pictures of Marylyn all humiliated,
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: nude in the bed, there goes a glass of water
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: right next to the bed. And Sergeant Clemens wrote down
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: in his little notepad, he goes, it is odd to
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: me how we searched the house for twenty minutes looking
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: for a drinking glass, and then right before the publicist
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: got there, there goes a glass right next to the
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: bed just in time for them to start taking pictures.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: So it wasn't even It was like a sloppy cover
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: up job too. They didn't even like take their time
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: to like make sure stuff looked right.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: That is so odd that the doctor would have to
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: break into it, because didn't the house cleaner. Didn't you
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: just say the house cleaner and called him and told
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: him to come. Why wouldn't you just unlock the front door?
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Why would he need to break in through the window
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: through to get inside, like just unlocked still come in
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: the front door.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: The official story is he did it because Marilyn wouldn't
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: open her bedroom door and he wanted to make sure
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: she was okay, So that's why he had to go
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: around the front of the house and break into her
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: room through the window because she had supposedly locked her
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: bedroom door and wouldn't let anybody in. We find out
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: later that that's a huge lie because the glass was
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: broken from the inside of the bedroom, right, but recovering.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: For someone that he knew did this and then exited
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: out the window mm hmm. And he's like, okay, well,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: how do we make this make sense. I'll say that
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: I had to break the window from the outside to
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: get inside.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm, yeah, I mean none of it made sense writer. Honestly,
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: they didn't really even take time to put together a
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: good story because so Sergeant Clemens was like, all right, well,
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: let me talk to the housekeeper. He goes, well, what
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: have you been doing the last four hours while they've
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: been calling publicists and whatever. It took you guys four
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: hours to call the police. I don't get it. And
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: she's like, well, I've been doing laundry and you know,
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: I've been doing this and that. And it's like, who
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: are you doing laundry for? Your employer is dead and
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: you know that, you know she's dead, You've known she's
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: been dead for four hours now, and you're still working
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: on laundry and folding her clothes and like it just
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: and then she never testified at the trial because shortly
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: after all this happened, she fucked off to Europe for
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: like four or five years after this, and nobody could
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: talk to her, Nobody could ask her any questions or
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: story never made since the whole broken window, the time
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: in which she found or she suspected that there was
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: something wrong with Marylyn and her psychiatrist getting there, but
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: because she was in Europe, nobody could ask her any questions,
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: so she got off the hook pretty easily. As far
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: as that goes. None of what she said ever made
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: since she was working on laundry and doing what I
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: was like for a dead person. Why why what are
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: you talking about? You're working on laundry for the last
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: four hours.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Someone paid her off, get out of here right.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: The sergeant Clemens also noticed that the bed sheets in
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: which Marilyn was laying on did look and smell clean,
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: So maybe she was working on laundry. I don't know.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: Maybe they had to hide a bunch of evidence of
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: what they were doing to her body. Clearly they were
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: moving her body around several times after she was deceased
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: because of the lividity markings. We also know, according to
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: the autopsy report, that she had cyanosis, which you only
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: find in deaths that occurred rapidly. So this would correlate
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: to like drownding or being strangled. And why would she
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: have this if it was a slow, painful oral sedative overdose.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: If you die slowly, you would not turn blue. So like,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know what you think about all this, but
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: it's just Every single Netflix documentary you'll ever watch will
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: tell you that she was just sad and drank a
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: bunch of pills down. But like, why then did she
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: have cyanosis? You know what I mean. It's like none
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: of this makes sense.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Rob John had a question here earlier. I heard Marylyn
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: gave JFK, I'll ask the from the MK Ultra program
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: to get him to admit being a trader. I haven't
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: heard that exactly bomb, but I have heard that they
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: tripped LSD together at the White House. Is that something
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: that is verified or that is just rumor or what's
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: going on there?
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: That's interesting to me because I do know. Are you
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: familiar with Peter Lawford? No, I think that was JFK's
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: brother in law or some type of relative to him.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: He had a beach house that he would take Maryland
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: to and that house was also bugged. And JFK was
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: known to be doing all kinds of crazy, weird stuff
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: at Peter Lawford's Santa Monica beach house with Maryland to
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: the point where they had to bug that guy's house
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: even And so I know she also had top secret
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: clearance to look out Mountain Studio. Yes, she was definitely
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: involved with the CIA in some capacity. So it wouldn't
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: surprise me at all to find something like that out
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: because she was definitely being used in you know, different classifications,
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: you know it. Some of it I think was in
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: our face, and some of it I think was very hidden.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: I think she could have been like a sex kitten
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: type person.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Have you seen any like masade connections, not.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: That I'm aware of. I think she was dipping her
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: toe into all kinds of stuff, But it's hard to
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: really find stuff like that, And for me, I like
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: to make sure that I could speculate a little bit,
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: but I like to make sure there's something like really
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: crete before I bring it on to like a presentation
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: or something like that. I have never come across anything
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: like that, but I'm not saying that it couldn't exist,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: because I wouldn't be surprised.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've always heard the story that JFK Maryland were
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: at the White House tripping LSD, and then it just
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: so happens that, like almost after that, JFK was.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: Like, oh, lot's no no more war.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Defund the war, defund all this stuff. You know. Kind
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: of interesting.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually makes.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Sense if you did trip on some kind of hallucinogenic
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: because like, whenever you do that, it's like you you
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: realize everything is one. You know, everyone is one.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: It wouldn't surprise she. Actually, I think what cooked her
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: goose was showing up at JFK's birthday party in this
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: through dress that Kim Kardashian wore a couple of years
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: ago to like some awards show. It was actually see through.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: You know, you could definitely see right through that dress,
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: and she wore it in front of everyone at JFK's birthday,
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: which they had uninvited her. They called her the Kennedys
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: and said, do not come to this party. You are uninvited,
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: and she was like, buck you and she showed up anyways,
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: and then she performed. She was like, not only am
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: I gonna come to the party, I'm also gonna perform
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: in front of everyone in a see through dress. After
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: they told her, like, you are not supposed to come here,
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: Jackie was livid. Everybody was livid, and she proceeded to
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: like dance with John F. Kennedy and Robert at that party.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: And that night, after the party had ended, Cia showed
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: up to all of the newspaper reporters hotel rooms and
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: confiscated their cameras because they did not want any pictures
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: being released of JFK and Robert getting frisky with Marilyn
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: at the birthday party. They also were told to not
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: write anything about Marylyn being there, so and then they
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: were threatened. And very shortly after that we find that
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: she swallowed a bunch of pills and she's dead. Also,
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: her original autopsy report went missing her, the original police
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: report went missing, the official medical reports ended up going missing.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: And when the medical examiner, doctor Degucchi, went back to
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: retest Marilyn's organs to confirm his suspicion that she had
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: been murdered and that this was a homicide, he found
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: that all of her in internal organs had went missing. So, again,
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: if this is just a suicide and she just was
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: real sad one day and took a bunch of pills,
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: what would be the what would be the point in
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: covering all this stuff up and going to such links
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: to make sure her telephone records, all of her medical reports,
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: autopsy report, police report, her internal organs are all missing,
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: the gone. And then on the day of the funeral,
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: her body went missing for ten hours. What's the point
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: of that if this is just a suicide, you know
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying, It's just what were they hiding?
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: Like come on, well, that's almost like JFK His all
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: of this stuff went missing from the National Archives with
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: JFK as well.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: Mm hmmne.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: RFK stuff is like held under like lock and key,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: where like only one person can get to the any
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: of the evidence of the RFK assassination as well.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: So what I did find is that there was a
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: lieutenant named Marion Phillips who said, this is a quote.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: In nineteen sixty two, Chief Parker took all the files
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: to show someone in Washington about Marilyn Monroe and that
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: was the last we ever saw of them. And when
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: you look into it further, it would appear that there's
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: like a Pentagon level cover up going on with Maryland's
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: official autopsy report and everything, and especially like her internal
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: organs going missing, Like like what why? Like unless you're
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: trying to hide the fact that she did not take pills,
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: there would be no and to take them and destroy them.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Uh, there was something else that I thought that you
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: would find interesting. Oh she called Marilyn on the night
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: she died, called her hair stylist and confirmed her appointment
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: for the next morning. And based on that phone call
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: confirmed and the time of death confirmed by the autopsy,
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: it would have been about ten minutes before she died.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: And if for someone to have taken sixty to seventy
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: sleeping pills, you're not making phone calls to your hairstylist
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: ten minutes before you die of a drug overdose. First off,
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: the hairstylist said, she sounded great, no slurred speech, no
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: nothing to you know. Presume this person had just taken
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: seventy sleeping pills and was about to die and to
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: come And why the fuck do you care about confirming
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: your hairpointment for the next day when you're literally about
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: to enter into the next realm, Like you would think
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: that'd be the last thing on your mind to confirm
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: my hair appointment for the next morning when you know
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: you're about to die. So that that also just never
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: made since like why is she confirming appointments and stuff
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: when she's supposedly taken seventy sleeping pills.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: It just that's the same type of scenario with the
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Scott Peterson case as well, Like he had really well,
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: I mean he had bought her like Christmas presence, like
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: the Christmas presents were still under the tree whenever she
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: and so like if he was planning on killing her
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: like everyone, well, I mean he was charged with it.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: He was charged for the murder of his wife, but
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: the La Innocence Project actually tried to pick up the
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: case and then the judge denied to examine any of
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: the evidence that was never examined by the police. But
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: that's been the big contention with the Scott Peterson case,
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: is that he had just bought her like a bunch
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: of Christmas gifts, Like, if you're planning on, you know,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: killing your wife.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: Why bother Yeah, yeah, I mean that that's some of
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: these inconsistencies to me are just like completely wacko, especially
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: like they found this little, this little crumpled up piece
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: of paper next to Maryland's body. I don't know if
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: she had it in her hand or what, but they
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: found it later when they were wheeling her out, and
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: it was JFK's phone number to his freaking office written
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: on a tiny piece of paper and it found next
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: to her body. And they also say that she was
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: clutching the phone or something like that. I don't think
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: she was clutching the phone. I think that was added
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: in later, just like the water glass and the knocked
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: over bottle of pills and stuff. Because and again also,
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: you're going to take and this is what was found
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: in our system, sixty to seventy sleeping pills and nineteen
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: to twenty chloral hydrate tablets. Why in the world would
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: you have left over in the bottle? Her prescription was
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: for like twenty tablets. She had way more than that
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: in her system, and there was still some left on
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: the nightstand. It was literally like a Hollywood production. We're
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: gonna put the phone here, We're gonna have her laying
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: like this, We're gonna have a couple of pills scattered
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: about here. Whoops, forgot the water glass. We'll add that
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: in later. And you know, it's just like why, like why,
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: And she must have really pissed somebody off. Because the
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: woman is a sex icon. She could have anybody that
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: she wanted. Obviously, she's got both of the Kennedy Brothers
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: and Chicago Mob. She's got it, literally, anybody she wants.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: Why would it be so important to humiliate her in
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: her death this way? Unless you were just completely pissed off,
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: no makeup on. Her face was bloated and swollen, hair disheveled,
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: completely nude, barely covered up with a sheet. You know,
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: suicide in itself is looked down upon. I think that
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: this was almost like kind of a humiliation ritual among
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: other things they need, sure, but they also wanted to
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: like humiliate her in the process.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, I think that Mary pintro Meyer
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: might have also been found nude, but I might be
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: wrong on that.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: If she wasn't be interesting because much like Marylyn, she
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: had her journal stolen too, and she was having a
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: sexual relationship with John F. Kennedy.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: Yep, both doing the same thing. Let me see if
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: I can, because there's some photos of her when she's
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: on the DC towpath whenever she was dead. Oh no,
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: she was clothed.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: So do you find that significant?
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: Though?
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: With Marilyn, do you think that they did this to
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: her to humiliate her? Because that's my opinion.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: Well, who are the suspects in this? Who have you
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: pinned this down on? Is there anybody, like any specific
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: in the or specific group of people that may have
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: been involved. I know you mentioned the mob earlier, and
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: it kind of seems like something that the mob would do,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: especially when you're talking about the enemas.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: Yes, it was their preferred method of assassination, if you will.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: But this is where I need your opinion, because this
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: story diverges and goes down two different paths. Right about here,
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: we know, based on forensic evidence in the autopsy report,
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: that Marilyn did not kill herself. That is not up
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: for debates. She didn't kill herself. The only question that's
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: left is now, who did it and what was the
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: motivation behind doing it? And there are two equally as
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: interesting trains of thought when it comes to who wanted
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: to do it. The Kennedy brothers are the number one
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: suspect on everyone's mind, not only because she was having
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: a sexual relationship with him, but she was trying to
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: make it public, especially at the birthday party. And then
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: the mob because she was involved with Frank Sinatra, Johnny Roselli,
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: some other mobsters and they the mob was pissed off
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: at the Kennedys because they felt like they had been
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: double crossed by the Kennedys. And they were also aware
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: that Robert Kennedy had paid Marilyn a visit that very
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: day that she died, and they had a big fight,
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: and there were noise complaints that were filed that Robert
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: Kennedy and Marilyn were having a huge throwdown that same day,
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: and the mob was aware of this, and I almost
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: think that they set it up to look like the
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: Kennedys did this to her because they were so pissed
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: off fit them.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: So that they could try and blame it on them
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: in some sort of way, or at least put speculation
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: out there that they had something to do with it.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: That's what I think, because when when anybody thinks about this,
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: if they first they'll say, Okay, I agree, Marylyn didn't
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: kill herself, but I think that the Kennedys did it,
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: And I always want them to take a look at
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: the broader picture, because the mob was aware due to
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: taps at the house and the noise complaint that Robert
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: Kennedy and Marylyn were fighting that day and that he
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: was in town and that he they were pissed at
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: each other that day. She was so upset that she
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: didn't even eat that day. She had just had like
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: some grapefruit juice for breakfast and then basically had nothing
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: until like the night she or until the hour she died,
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: she had not thing, so she was clearly upset. Whatever
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: they talked about definitely was upsetting enough for them to
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: be like screaming and yelling at each other, and then
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden she dies that night after Robert
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: Kennedy has been seen leaving her home that day. It's
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: a little bit odd for the Kennedys to want to
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: publicly fight with her like that and be seen leaving
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: her home and then go back that same night and
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: kill her. That seems a little odd to me that
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: they would make it so blatantly obvious like that. But
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: also I do find it interesting that Jay Edgar Hoover
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: got involved after the birthday party trying to cover up
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: what was happening with the Kennedys in Maryland. He was
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: acting on behalf of the Kennedys, and he was actually
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: the one who sent over like a cleanup crew shortly
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: after Marylyn died to get rid of all like the
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: bugs and grab her diaries and clean sheets and do
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: stuff like this. That was under the orders of j
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: Edgar Hoover, which is also why I think the mob
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: did it, because if it was the Kennedys. Why would
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: they need to go through such cleanup act. The Mob,
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: I feel like, wanted people to find these diaries and stuff.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: They wanted people to think, oh, Robert Kennedy was over
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: that day and now she's mysteriously dead. They wanted to
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: kind of frame the Kennedys. I think.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: Stewart here says or Offka's appearance at her home was
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: covered up with fake alibia as a traffic cop also
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: stopped Off's car in the area for speeding with Peter
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: Lawford at the wheel. Yes, yeah, it's really interesting.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: It almost seems like you think out of the two
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: would be more likely.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: Well, it seems like it would be a really good
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: setup to try and take down the Kennedys, because we
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: know that the MOB didn't like the Kennedys, the CIA
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: didn't like the Kennedys, a lot of these intelligence people
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: didn't like the Kennedys.
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: For sure.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: Israel didn't like the Kennedys. So it seems like that
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: this could have been a way to try and pin
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: it on them before they, you know, tried to do
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: what they what inevitably ended up happening in nineteen sixty three.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: So it could have been like, Okay, well, let's let's
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: see if we can do it this way, and then
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: if not, we'll do like plan B. It almost kind
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: of seems like that, but they would have had to
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: have known that it would been like almost impossible to
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: try and pin it on them fully to where that
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: anything could happen to where they would get in trouble
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: or even prosecuted. I don't think that a sitting president
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: can ever be prosecuted for anything while he's president. I
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: could be wrong on that. It might have to be
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: something outside of the jurisdiction of the Constitution, but no
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: president has ever been charged with anything while he has
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: been president, So they had to have known that that
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: would that wouldn't work well.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: I think if anything, it.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: Was just a slandering thing, they could have used it
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: as a slander.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: And also to plant that little seed of the Kennedy
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: brothers are bags of shit in every one's mind, because,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: for example, Judy Campbell, Ellen Romstitch I don't know if
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: I'm saying her last name right, and Mary Pincho Meyer,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: they were doing a good job of keeping their mouths shut,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: but their legs open until they weren't and then they
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: got dealt with, and I think Marylyn is the same.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: But the time Mary pinchro Meyer is that she didn't
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: die until after JFK, you know, supposedly died air quotes.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: And but Marilyn Monroe was in ninety two, correct, So
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: this was before I mean not ninety two, sorry, sixty two.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: Sixty two.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: I think were daily Applausa.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: Well, in my opinion, I think the same people who
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: did Maryland did Kennedy? Did mary did Robert like that.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of speculator about, oh, well, the Kennedys
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: had Marilyn killed because she was about to try to
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: go public with all this stuff, that secret stuff that
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: we've been telling her. And again, in my opinion, I
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: think it was set up for people to suspect the Kennedys,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: if for nothing else, to just kind of like besmirched
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: their name, the good Kennedy name or whatever. But the
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: mob seems to be heavily involved, especially with the vehicle
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: of entry into the body, like the inima thing. That's
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: pretty significant and unusual. I think that that stands out.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: And I think that you know, with Marylyn dying in
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: such a close succession to when John died. I mean,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: there's somebody who's got to be at the top making
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: these decisions. That's not the Kennedys. So if people are
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: dying all around this situation, including the Kennedy brothers, to me,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: it's like, did they do it? I don't think so.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: I mean they got it too, yeah, And.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: Why would you want to just off all of your mistresses?
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: It doesn't I mean, I guess I could see it
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: from like a certain angle. I mean, that's kind of
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: what kings used to do, like way back in the day,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, we go around to the
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: to the whorehouses back in the day, going and killing
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: their you know, mistresses, or like killing their bastard sons
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: or whatever. Or maybe I'm just watching too much Achame
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: of Thrones. I don't know, but I would imagine that
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: if a scenario like that, I could see the circumstances
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: where you would want to get rid of somebody. But
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: there has to be more to it than that. And
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: by what you're saying that the house was bugged listening
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: to all of our conversations, they knew who was in
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: the house, who wasn't in the house, everything that was
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: being said. Then they would they would know exactly what happened.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm, right, the government would know what happened inside
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: of her house if.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: There was a perpetrator. Right, So it.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: Seems like we're complicit in the cover up because otherwise.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: They're definitely complicent in the cover up for sure.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: Otherwise they'd be like, oh, no, we have this, uh,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: we know exactly what happened there was there was people
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: did this tour because we know everything that goes on
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: in this house, because we have the entire house. Bug.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they were definitely and and especially with j Edgar Hoover,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: like making sure journals disappeared and making sure autopsy reports
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: disappeared and making sure I mean, this is why I
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: say the story goes down two different paths at this point,
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: because there's strong evidence to suggest that they, the mob
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: and the government may have been in cahoots and somehow
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: covering this stuff up and getting it done. Like it
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: just doesn't make sense it did one or both of them?
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: Did they act independently or in tandem killing Marylynd? I mean,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: it just you know, this is the part of the
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: story that you have to just kind of use your
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: best judgment and what we know about the crime scene
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: and what happened afterwards to make your final judgment about.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: But the one thing that I always like to say
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: is that at least we can agree based on the
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: forensic evidence, she didn't kill herself. So if we can
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: agree on that, then the rest of it is, you know,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: up for debate.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: What if pure speculation already evident. I'm just coming up
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: with this off of the dome. What if he was
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: pregnant ooh with either JFK's kid or rfks kid.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: Well, we know she definitely wanted to be a mom, and.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: That could have been the big blow up that her
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: and RFK was having together earlier in the day.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: Oohoo. I mean to me, that would make sense because
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: whatever they were fighting about, they were getting boisterous, and
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: then he took off. She didn't eat the rest of
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: the day. She was so upset, and she had had
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: several miscarriages and always said how much she wanted to
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: be a mother, So that would make a ton of
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: sense to me. I do find that the further you
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: look into Marylyn, you'll actually see that she was kind
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: of a conniving genius, and she is portrayed in movies
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: as being the dumb blonde character, but everyone who knew
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: her in real life said she was a diabolical genius
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: and that she was very smart and she knew exactly
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: what she was doing. And especially you know she's involved
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: with like Lookout Mountain Studios having top secret clearance. She's
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: got all these you know, politicians and you know, high
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: upper echelon people in her life. You know, she's not
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: an idiot like she's portrayed to be. She's smart and
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: I feel like she was playing her cards to her
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: advantage and maybe something got away from her and she
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: got in over her head and they had to deal
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: with it pregnancy, wanting to go cut, like come out
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: and be public about it, knowing too much, something something happened,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be the only thing that would be
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: very detrimental because she could be a mistress and no
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: one cares. I mean JFK had a lot of mistresses,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: and some say even what would be the man version
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: of a mistress man manstress?
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: I don't know. Yeah, So it's like that's not as
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: damning as what could be a huge public blow up.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 4: And Jack Jackie's pretty hot too, Like what is he
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 4: doing in Brold. Jackie is a ten.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: Almost.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I would say that Jackie is actually more attractive
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: to me personally than Marilyn. And she had this whole
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: like be here kind of you know, she was the
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: first lady you know, she was tremendously lady like, and
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: her fashion was is still iconic to this day. Everybody
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: talked about it. Jackie to me was, you know, super gorgeous.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: I I honestly think that at some point, it's just
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: like with anything else, you know, you just get sick
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: of the person you're with and greener pastors. You just
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, I've seen what she has to offer,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: I've sampled it several times, and now I want to
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: see what else is out there. I mean, he John F.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: Kennedy and Robert Kennedy were both like total pusshounds, and
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: so was their dad.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: Apparently, Hey, I guess if you got it flaunted. I mean,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: Jeff gab was an attractive man.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: He was.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, He's probably the most attractive president we've ever had.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: I would say that confidently. I think that Bill Clinton,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: like in his prime, but I don't even think I
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: don't even think Bill Clinton even touches him. Mm hmm.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say JFK. Junior is also extremely attractive.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: In what happened to him is up for debate. Let's
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: just say that definitely don't think he died in a
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: plane crash. I don't know if he's still alive, but
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: there's a lot to be speculated about with that as well.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: The Kennedy seemed to be plagued by odd circumstances. But
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: something that I did want to mention about Maryland that
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: you might find to be like me grasping at straws,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: or you might find it to be significant. I do
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: think that Stanley Kubrick used several real life incidents as
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: inspiration in his movies. And in I Wide Shut, there
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: is a Barbie Doll in the toy store at the
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: end of the movie, and it's a gentleman prefer blondes,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: Marilyn Monroe, and I feel like it was strategically placed
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: in the shot to where you notice that it's this
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: Marilyn Monroe Barbie Doll, and Marilyn lived and died on
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: one two three oh five fifth Helena Drive, and the
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: name of the little girl in Eyes Wide Shut is Helena.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: And there is a lot of significance with the main
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: character Alice the little Girl, and many of the women
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: at the Eyes Wide Shut ritual that seem to have
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: this Marilyn Monroe esque blonde haired, pro gramed monarch thing
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: going on. And so you know, I find that interesting. Also,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: this home where Marilyn lived and died is less than
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: an hour from Laurel Canyon. Again, she did have top
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: secret clearance to look out mountain studios, and this house
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: is said to be haunted and it was listed on
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: Zillo for eight million dollars. Also ritualistically, her funeral was
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: on eight eight nineteen sixty two, which is eight eight eight,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: And there are a lot of weird numbers that come
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: up around Marilyn. Elton John wrote a song about her
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: Candle in the Wind when she died. That he also
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: he rewrote the lyrics and sang at Princess Diana's funeral,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: and Princess Diana was also murdered in August. In my opinion,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: so there's the eight again. I find things like that
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: to be significant. But you know, maybe again I'm grasping
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: at straws. What do you think about that stuff?
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: I think when it comes to like times and like
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: Jamatria and numbers. It's like, yeah, I mean, it's kind
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: of seems like a coincidences sometimes and an other time.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: But I think that the problem is that nobody really
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: knows exactly what it means. It's interesting and like these
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: times and dates and stuff, but it's like, well, you know,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: what does it even? I don't think people even know
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: the conclusion of what anything actually means. You know. That's
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: what I've never really understood about Jamatria is like, I mean,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: it's cool, but what does it mean? Bro?
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: What mean? Yeah?
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: No one can ever tell you what it means.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: So for me, like, I'm exactly like you writer, and
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: I've always kind of struggled with Jamatria and stuff like that.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: Gu Matria, however it's pronounced. I like to point out like, hey,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: all these things happened in or around a similar date,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: or hey you know this, this happened on August and
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: this whatever. But to me, it's it's like could it
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: be a coincidence or is there something more to it?
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't really do numerology, I don't
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: really do Gomatria stuff, but I find that there can
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: you can draw connections based on certain weird things like
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: that or stuff that you see in movies that has
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: the same name as like stuff that happened in real
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: life or whatever. But I'm like you, I don't know
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: what it means all the time, And I don't think
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: we're supposed to literally know the answer to everything. I
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: feel like when I listen to a conspiracy theory podcast
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: and it feels like the person has an answer for everything,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of worried because it's like, how do you
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: know everything? Like why do you know everything? Why do
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: you have an answer for everything? I think some things
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: should just be left open for listener interpretation. I mean,
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: nobody could possibly know the answer to everything. That's that's crazy.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: But what we can do is research and use speculation
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: and you know, start putting facts and shit together that
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: makes sense. And some stuff isn't up for to debate,
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: Like this autopsy report. I mean, there's no refuting that
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: it is what it is. She didn't take pills. But yeah,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: I mean I don't ever claim to know everything, But
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: what I will say is there's too much going on
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: for there not to be like deeper cover ups and stuff.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: You know, we can't accept anything at face value. But
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: will we always? Will we know the answer to everything?
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: I doubt it.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: I was just trying to look up because I think
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: the albums and songs by popular musicians have been written
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: in Marilyn Monroe's home.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: Oh really Yeah?
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: This says that The Weekend wrote his new album in
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: Marilyn Monroe's old bedroom.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, here it is here real quick. The Weekend reveals
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: that he wrote a new album in Marilyn Monroe's old bedroom.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: R and B singer also describes writing a song with
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: that sharing in a late night party.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: This is my dad crazy.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: The Canadian R and B singer real name Abba bell
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: A bell tes Fier Wow, his schedule to release his
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: third major album next week in August the twenty, following
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: the twenty thirteen Skiss Land and his trilogy mixtape compilation LP.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: This is an old this is an old article. The
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: record will feature a guest spots from Lina del rayeds
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: Hearing a Labyrinth. A handful of tracks, including the recent
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: single Can't fielm My Face were also cold written in
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: Max Martin. Okay, well, where's the song that was written.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: In Marilyn Monroe's bedroom?
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: When you work with someone who's been doing it as
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: long as Max Martin. You can't help but learn. He
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: also revealed how Martin's studio was the former home. Okay,
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: so wow, Max Martin's studio. So he has a studio
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: in Marilyn Monroe's former I came up with the concepts
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: for a song called in the Night in her bedroom.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: That was pretty amazable. Cauldn't help but imagine Joe Domangio's.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: Sperm everywhere on the floor.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: Statement is that, bro? So this dude's got this, dude's
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: got a Max Martin got a studio in Marilyn Monroe's
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: old home. This is an old article though, this is
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: from twenty and fifteen. But yeah, I just thought that
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: that because I had heard that several artists and bands
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: had written albums in her home. I guess they could
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: just like go to her house to get inspiration or something.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, or it's some type of ritualism, you know. I
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: never discount ritualism. I think that's one of the major
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: players in a lot of these suspicious deaths. You know.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: I see a lot of ritualism around Brittany Murphy. I
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: see a lot of ritualism around Amy Winehouse. I mean
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: you name it. I think if you look at the
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: surface level, a lot of people say, oh, well they
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: killed themselves or they die of the flu or whatever.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: But if you really look, it's like you said at
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: the beginning of this episode, Whitney Houston, you know there
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: there is ritualism tied to these deaths, and they're not
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: usually suicides.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, I would absolutely agree the uh trying to find
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: if there is anybody else. I know that there's a
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: really big mansion around La then a lot of people
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: like run out for like six months.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's Frank Zappa's log cabin.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: That's probably what it is up.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: There right that up there?
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: Have you.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: Gosh, I was gonna say something about, oh, have you
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: heard that Jared Leto's got some kind of weird cult
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: thing going on at Lookout Mountain Studios.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: No, but I do know that he's been accused of
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: essay by multiple women.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: Oh right, well, that don't surprise me.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: Recently, like right after we did that show, like whenever
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: I was on your channel doing the show on a
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: clockwork shining, the thing popped up and I was.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 3: Like, oh, man, I wish I would have.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: Known about this before we did.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: We did that episode together.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so here it is. I'm not gonna like
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: read it out, read it out, but I'll just show
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: you guys the article here. Okay, Jared Leto accused of
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: predatory behavior against women teenage girls. Nine women have come
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: forward that allegedly predatory behavior is displayed by the actor
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: Jared Leto. Wow, this isn't the only one. There's like several.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: It's all over everywhere here you.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: Go, So why is he not getting in trouble?
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: What is going on here? I hate these freaking pop ups.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: He's a raper, he's an r.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean that's that's the whole thing. I
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: think that some of this might be coming from the
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: cult that he's supposedly running as well.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: Dude, he's got some kind of cult thing going on,
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: because somebody said, oh, Joe Rogan, my husband was telling me.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: Joe Rogan was like defending Jared Leto on his show, like, oh,
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: there's nothing going on up there. Jared Letto is a
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: great guy. Uh. They're just listening to music and braiding
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: each other's armpit hair like good hippies do, and there's
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: nothing to be suspicious about.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: And it's like, dude, come on, yeah, this just came out.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: There was a guy that I was listening to and
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: not too long ago on TikTok, he's had his channel
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: taking down several times on TikTok, he's had to make
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: new ones where he pretty much he like stumbled across
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: this one of Jared Letto's parties and he was like
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: walking around the thing. He was like saying that he
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: was seeing all this stuff and all this was like weird,
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: and then like he jutted out of there. Predatory, terrifying
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: and unacceptable. The problem with Jared Leto, the Oscar winning
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: actor as expiring cult leader right there, okay, okay, okay, okay,
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: uh huh, has been accused of inappropriate behavior, leaving Disney
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: with over two hundred million dollars headache.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: Disney.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: I think he signed me. I think he uh, well,
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: he's doing a movie with Disney mores No, that was Sony.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: This is I think he's doing a Tron a Tron sequel.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: Hm hmmm, oh well I got to put in my
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: email to continue this. Oh I hate these freaking things.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: Can't even read the full article without subscribing to the
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: putting your email or your phone number, and you're not
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: getting my data Google.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. They just want
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: your data, don't play into it righter.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: But yeah, he's uh I think he's supposed to be
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: the main actor of this New Tron sequel or something
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: that's supposedly in development.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: That's interesting to me. I mean, Jerry Leto is a
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: creepy weird guy, you know, and he's been in a
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: bunch of creepy weird movies. But this recent stuff of
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: him basically being a cult leader is like nobody's gonna
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: talk about. Nobody's noticed, like, uh, hello, what's going on
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: over here? And he's obviously a raper.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but Disney, well, Disney will cover that up. The
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: film's already been shot. It's set to release in October
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: of this year. It's called Aries Tron Aries, and he's
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: gonna be playing the AI Digital Aries program in the
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: New Tron movie. So it's already like set to release.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: So they're going to try and squash this whole uh say,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: allegations from until at least the uh at least until
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: they've made their money from the movie. But it's like
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: something that's really quiet and like on the download, you
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: don't really you didn't really hear about this. I had to.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: I think the only way that I stumbled across it
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: was because I was making a reel from out, like
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: a short video from our discussion, and I typed in,
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: I haven't posted it yet, it's not out on YouTube.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: I think it's schedule to release tomorrow and I'm gonna
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: post it on social media as well. But I had
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: to search up his name to get like pictures of
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: him to put together in this short real video that
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: I did from our conversation, And then when I typed
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: in his name, all these articles started popping up.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: Oh damn, that's crazy.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: Weird. But then I was like, oh my god, I
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: should have brought this up a couple of weeks ago.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, good thing that we did this so we
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: could circle back, as they say, circle.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: Him back always good. So where do you Where do
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: you stand on this Marilyn Monroe stuff. Do you think
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: that you've already kind of mentioned that you don't believe
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: that it was the Kennedys, that you thought that the
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: Kennedys were kind of set up to take the fall
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: for it, And also why, because I think that that's
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: also a really big question that's looming over this entire scenario.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: You know, that's the who and the why.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, writer, It's like I said,
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: for me to sit here and say I have all
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: the answers, I would be lying and I would be,
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: you know, not doing the listeners of a service because
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: I like to leave things opened ended sometimes for people
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: to continue to do their own research and come to
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: their own conclusions on what they think could have happened.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: My opinion, in my speculation, is that the mob set
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: it up to where it would look like the Kennedys
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: were involved because they were so pissed at the Kennedys.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: But somehow Jay Edgar Hoover needed to step in to
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: help with the cleanup as to not have certain things
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: revealed about the Kennedys. You know, some journals going missing
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that. It's interesting to me internal organs
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: going missing, body going missing. I mean, my thing is
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: I hope when I do this presentation that I can
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: at least get people on board with the fact that
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: she did not kill herself. That's the number one thing.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: And then wherever people want to take it after that,
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: I can't say right or wrong. I mean, for me,
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: I think the mob was involved to a high degree.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: I think that the Kennedys were involved to a high
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: degree in some unspecified capacity, you know. I just I
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: want to think that whoever did Marilyn also did the
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: Kennedys or were involved in setting that up, because it's
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: like they died pretty close in time to Marilyn and
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: John F. Kennedy died pretty close in time. I would say,
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: so somebody is at the top of this pyramid taking
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: out everybody, and then Mary, like you said, Mary pinchell Meyer,
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: she died after John. So it's like, even after the
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: Kennedys are getting killed, people are still turning up dead,
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: so it can't be them doing all of it.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: It's a good, good explanation, Julia, and thank you for
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: coming on. I really appreciate your time this evening. Hope
• 1:28:01
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• 1:28:06
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• 1:28:09
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• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: to you.
• 1:28:13
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• 1:28:16
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  Speaker 2: message on Instagram, don't get mad at me if I
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  Speaker 2: never open it. That that inbox is wild, that that
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  Speaker 2: inbox is out of control. You know, I got people
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  Speaker 2: trying to sell me stuff. I got people trying to
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  Speaker 2: send dig pics. I'm good. I'm not even opening that
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  Speaker 2: inbox anymore. So, but thanks so much for having me writer.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Julia. I really appreciated. The links
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