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Week 11 Preview | Top Open Jobs, Coaching Hot Boards, TTU-BYU, Bama-LSU, and more · The Extra Point

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What's up y'all? You're listening to the Extra
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Point college football podcast. I'm your host Jacob Carnes,
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joined as always by my Co host Daniel Hammock.
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Daniel, we have made it to week 11.
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We've got some playoff rankings. So we'll we'll talk about that
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here at halftime of our show. What we'll compare our updated
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XPR with the first College Football Playoff rankings.
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Some some interesting Nuggets there.
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I'm excited to discuss we're going to talk some coaching
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carousel here at the at the top of the show here.
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We'll we'll do our our normal second quarter 2 questions we
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have after this past week of games.
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We'll go into three games. We're excited to watch 3U
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matchups to watch and then 4 picks against the spread for
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this week's biggest games, including Texas Tech and BYU,
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Missouri and Texas A and MI win, Oregon, Alabama and LSU.
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Daniel, how you doing? We've this is for sure the
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fourth quarter of the season. It's November.
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Yeah, things are heating up. Yeah, it's like I'm always wary
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about the season getting too far along because all the sudden
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before you know, it's it's gone. But November is the best month.
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You know, I, I mean, I always think in my head, this is just
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separate from football, but I always think in my head, Hey,
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October is my favorite month. But really it's November because
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you start putting Christmas decorations up, the commercials,
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the rivalries, College Football Playoff ranking start coming
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out. It's really think, you know,
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Thanksgiving, November's where it's at.
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So this is this is a great spot to be in.
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I feel like this is the most coaches and the biggest jobs
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we've ever seen open at the same time at this point in the
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season. So it was almost like we had to
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do it. There was there is no
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opportunity to miss coaching carousel talk.
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It was beginning to dominate our conversation anyway.
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So you know what, we pivoted. It's part of the four quarters
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now. So you know what?
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Let's get into it. And we're not done yet, I don't
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think with this coaching carousel.
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So Daniel, here's where I want to start.
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There's several jobs open. Like you said, it's the earliest
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we've seen it open right now. Let's let's do this.
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We're going to have a cool graphic after this we're going
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to post because I think 3 is an interesting cut off.
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What to to you right now? What are the top three jobs
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available given what we know, what we think about these jobs,
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what we think we know about these jobs, Give me your top
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three. I think 3 is an interesting cut
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off because I think there's like 4 jobs you would consider like
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top tier jobs, right? Give me your top three.
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My top three. For me is is easy right now.
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I think that for me there's a clear cut off between 3:00 and
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4:00. Me too.
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So LSU is #1 even with the governor getting his hand and
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everything, if you'd asked me two weeks ago, I would have said
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LSU emphatically, no question about who is number 2.
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Yeah. But for what it's worth, I'll,
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I'll stop there. LSU #1 #2 Florida, there's just
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too much elite talent accessible right there.
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You got world class institution and then, you know, just
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obviously winning history. You can win the national
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championship in Florida. Great fan base, great home
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stadium #3 E Penn State. Penn State.
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I think that they criteria for me to be one of the top jobs in
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the country. You have to be 1 of the top 2
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conferences. You have to be the Big 10 or the
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SEC Yeah. And it.
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So you have to be able to have that as an opportunity.
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You have to be able to win there.
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And I I just think that Penn State has a very defined
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difference in this new landscape of college football.
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Above who I would presume is your other one when I had #4
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just outside of this list, which is Auburn.
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All right, we've got the same top two.
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Yeah. I mean, LSU just hired a
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president and athletic director very quickly, Athletic director
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Josh Pate said. Has been there since they picked
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purple and gold to be the school colors, which which I think is
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cool. So like two people who get LSU
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and the governor's shut up for the past few days.
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So yeah, number one job far and away so long as that.
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I mean, dude, he's like a cartoon character so long as he
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stays quiet. 2 is Florida for all the same reasons you said.
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Three, I've got Auburn and I was pretty, I was pretty clear cut
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about Auburn. I did a poll on Twitter.
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I got 5050 split. So I think that's, I think
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that's fair. My thing with Auburn over Penn
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State is in the new landscape, everybody's got money.
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Auburn has spent better than Penn State so far in the new
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landscape. They've also recruited better
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than Penn State in the new landscape.
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And I, I'm with you on it's got to be an SEC or a Big 10 job.
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And I also think like best jobs. I, I'm going to this Daniel of
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if all things are equal, it's the best head coach in the
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country. Where can you go and win, you
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know, the fastest, the best, the longest, whatever?
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And obviously the best head coaches can win in any of these
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places. Like you put Nick Saban at Penn
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State or Auburn, he's still going to win national
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championships. That's, that's, that's just
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what's going to happen. You know, Nick Saban of a few
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years ago at least. But to me, Auburn or Penn State,
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you know, sure, the the TV money is better at Penn State, the
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alumni base is bigger, but money is not a big differentiator.
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And like I said, like Auburn has spent more so far than Penn
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State on recruiting and roster building.
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I didn't go to Daniel. I, I think some of the stuff
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that for a little bit went away, I think some stuff that's going
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to come back when, when everyone's making money and all
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things are equal, I think location is going to matter.
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I think especially in this transfer portal era of kids,
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that I just think access to local talent will matter more.
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And Penn State is in the middle of nowhere.
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Like State College is 4 hours from the biggest city in their
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own state, much less access to big, big talent beds up at Penn
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State. It's just going to be
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interesting. You know, again, you put a top
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coach up there, they're going to go win.
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I also think it's interesting that their top 2 candidates have
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already signed extensions and said, I'm good.
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Like Matt Rule and Kurt Zignetti are like, we are happy where we
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are. Because in in my mind that means
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obviously there's personal stuff that goes into that, right?
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Maybe they love the city, their kids love it, they've got a
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family, they want to raise their kids there.
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I'm sure some of it also is expectation, right?
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Like cursing daddy especially. You can go be the greatest coach
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in Indiana football history if you keep doing what you're
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doing. There's not an expectation of
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national championship or bust, which is exactly what why James
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Franklin lost his job was because 2024 was natty or bust.
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So I, I just think it's interesting their top 2
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candidates have already signed extensions.
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I also think the advantage Penn State has over Auburn though, is
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that there's not as many barriers in your way to a title
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in your conference, right? You they don't have a huge in
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state rival that is the, the, the bar right in Alabama.
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I just think Auburn's a better job.
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I mean, dude, they just fired a coach who brought home 7
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national championships to the school this year.
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But in all seriousness, we said this a few years ago when
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Voorhees freeze got the job on this podcast that you know,
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every Auburn coach of the last, I think it's 3 decades has at
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least played for a national championship at Auburn.
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It's until Brian Harson and until he Freeze.
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I just it's it's a place where you can win.
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I was doing it just fine. We we've been on that for a
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while. I think that's past.
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But yes, Auburn's my 3, Penn State's my 4:00.
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I could go either way there. But when I was pretty
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emphatically Auburn whenever I was looking at it.
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So I'm I'm glad we disagree there.
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Yeah, My biggest thing is, you know, when, you know, we're
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both, it's funny, we both say new landscape, but we're talking
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about different things. You're talking about access to
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players and money and all that kind of stuff.
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I'm more interested specifically in both of them, Like Penn State
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broke free from their old schedule of playing all Ohio
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State and Michigan every year. Auburn got locked into it long
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term because there was a lot of questions about what the nine
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game SEC schedule, if that was going to happen.
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It officially got approved just a couple months ago.
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And I guess last month, whenever this was and whenever that
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happened, Auburn essentially found out, hey, you're official.
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You're you're going to keep the Deep South sole of rivalry.
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They are by themselves on the plank as the only team in
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college football, Jacob that has to play Alabama and Georgia
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every single year. Every Tennessee was meeting at
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those same meetings every week with them when they were saying,
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you know, hi, my name's Tennessee.
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I also have to play Alabama and Georgia every year.
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Tennessee got off of that with this new schedule update.
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They're going to play Georgia every other year.
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They're still going to play Alabama every year.
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So when that happened, I think that it increased the
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volatility, if you will, of the Auburn schedule.
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It's like those are not only there, are they too, you know,
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historically strong teams? It's just they they also run
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themselves extremely well as far as, you know, head coaches.
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And they don't have a lot of turnover and they're just solid
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organizations. Whereas Auburn, on the flip
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side, has had several different coaching changes.
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Your fan base is inevitably, inevitably going to measure you
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against those two every single year because there will always
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be AW or an L next to that game every single year because you
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have to play them. You have to measure up on the
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field. And you know, it's, it's just in
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the nature of the fans, they're always going to look at that.
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So, you know, it's tough for Auburn, but it's locked in.
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So, you know, the the the you mentioned that they've had those
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opportunities to play for national championships and stuff
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like that. Yeah.
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I mean, if they beat those two teams, it's almost like a quick
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it's, it's a supercharges you. Even if you have two losses, you
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could be right there in the forefront of, you know, in of
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college football that's you've gone through two of the toughest
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programs in the country. Penn State had that opportunity
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in the past with Michigan, Ohio State.
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Now they're able to just play, you know, a gallery of random
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Big 10 teams every year and and kind of avoid every year having
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to play those two teams to get out of the conference.
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I mean, my only my, my, my disagreement would be, well, I
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mean, they played Oregon and Ohio State this year.
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They lost both. Next year they play Michigan and
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USC and Washington. We'll see how their team looks.
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Auburn has beaten Alabama and Georgia more often than Penn
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State has beaten Ohio State and Michigan in the playoff.
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Yeah. And I think that is so I think
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the, I agree with your argument. I think it's, I believe Auburn
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could beat Alabama and Georgia more often than Penn State can
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beat beat Ohio State, Michigan, Oregon, because I've seen it, it
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doesn't mean it can't be done, but I've seen it be done at
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Auburn. And so, and then if you do,
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you're in the national championship race as you should
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be. You beat Alabama, you're Reagan.
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I think every time they've beaten Alabama, they've been in
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line to play for it. Like 2017.
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They they win that SEC championship against Georgia,
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they're in. They beat both of them in the
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regular season. They sense why why UCF claimed
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the national championship at the end of that year, which is
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funny. OK, those are our top three
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jobs. Let's talk through some
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candidates here for all these. Let's start with LSU.
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Daniel, I've got 5 names in order.
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Who do you have as your hot board?
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You are the athletic director. You get to hire the head coach.
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This is not who we think is going to get it.
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This is you were in charge, who are you going to hire?
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Picking up the phone, I'm making one phone call and I'm making
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this person tell me no, OK, let's get Nick Saban on the
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phone. Let's have the conversation.
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People want to just dismiss it because look at what LSU, I
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mean, they went and got got the sitting Notre Dame head coach
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last time and brought him in. They swim in deep waters.
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This is not this. If there's one school in this
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cycle that is going to go head hunting for the biggest and best
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that they could get, they say he was out there.
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Now say what you will. Oh, he's happy.
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Everybody sees the video of him with his birthday cake and Miss
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Terry tell him to sit up and him looking like an old man.
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Make no mistake, this man has got his just for men and he's
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put it in his hair to dye it. OK.
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He is still presenting as a young man, OK.
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And it and he is a guy that I believe could absolutely take
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this job. Jacob All right, I'm not going
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to get too in on Nick Saban, but if there's one job he comes back
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for, obviously he can't go back to Alabama.
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That would just undo everything he'd let.
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He always mentioned how he left LSU too soon because he went pro
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and he did everything in Miami. They came back.
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He was able to exercise all that with with Alabama.
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But let's just see, man, I am not willing to say it's not
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going to happen. He has those relationships.
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If anyone's going to do it, this would be the only opportunity
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and it would be this cycle. It wouldn't be in 2-3 years,
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three years, whatever, because he'd probably come in and say
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something like I've got three to five years of coaching in me.
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And if there's a program that he could come in for three to five
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years and win a championship or two, LSU is at the top of the
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list. All right, I'm off of off that
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rocker. LSU is still going to go big
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game hunting. Lane Kiffin, obviously on that
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list. I think that this is a real
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list, more realistic option than Florida.
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So I don't have him on my Florida list, even though he
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should be considered, of course, at any, he should be one of the
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ones that's considered everywhere, especially SEC
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schools. So but LSU, I think that that is
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an opportunity for him. And #3 I've got Joe Brady and he
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was famously part of that. You know, he's with the Saints.
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Then he came and was the passing game coordinator, but he called
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some plays for LSU and they had, I don't know if it was if he did
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all the play calling out that year, Ensminger split it up with
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him. I can't remember exactly, but he
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was essentially credited with that offense being bananas and
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then but you know, having the greatest year ever.
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But he is offensive coordinator in the NFL right now for oh
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gosh, who is he with? It just left me.
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I'm looking he is with well. The Bills, he's with the Bills.
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I'm sorry. That a great podcasting
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everybody. So he's with the Bills.
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He's he's offensive coordinator Buffalo Bills.
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So. Brady, dude, I thought you met
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Steve Insminger. I was like, dude, he's still on
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staff. Now, yeah.
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Holy crap, they're the Bills together.
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No, that would be insane. Joe Brady is with the Buffalo
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Bills right now and they have an electric offense.
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That's mostly because the players.
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That's how that's how this works.
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Anyways. I think he would be someone I
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would consider coming back home, you know, being an NFL guy, come
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back to be the head coach of LSU.
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So Nick Saban, Lane Kiff and Joe Brady, in that order.
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I did the Joe Brady went interesting he's not on my list.
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I think this proven, proven coaching experience.
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Obviously he's an NFL AC is different.
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I we'll see. So my my hold up with Joe Brady
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is I need to do some deeper research on this.
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How often does it work out when you go get somebody from the
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glory days essentially, and how does it work?
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Like it's obviously not just a vibes play, but it's definitely
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a vibes play of you remember 2019, you know how big of a part
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Joe Brady was. Well, let's bring him back, you
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know, like, let's let's get back to the 2019 days.
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So that was interesting. I think he like, I have no idea
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how he is a coach. So that that name's interesting
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though. Trying to think of teams that
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have done this. Honestly.
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You know, what's funny is the only one I can think of was
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successful. Gus Malzahn was the OC of that
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2010 Auburn team and then they hire him as head coach.
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Well Florida brought in the head, he was OC and he went to
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be a head catch. Fine, I know they fired him, but
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yeah, better than the current state, you know?
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Yeah, OK. My, I didn't have Saban on here.
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I I've at least read that that's not happening.
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You read all you want. My first call.
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Miss Terry's got a number. OK.
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Lane Kiffin My first call for LSU in Florida.
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Lane Kiffin has. I mean, at this point, I know he
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looks young. He has decades of head coaching
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experience. I think people forget that.
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I mean, I was watching highlights before the Notre Dame
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USC game of the Bush push, dude. Lane Kiffin's coaching to that
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game, man. He's calm, plays like he, he's
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been around this game a long, long time.
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He's got head coaching experience in the SEC, in the
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G5, in the NFL, like multiple stops in the SEC.
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He's matured a ton. I think he's got his life
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figured out right now. So you call Lane, you make him
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tell, you know, for both head coaching jobs, he is winning at
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a rate at Ole Miss right now where he could go down.
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It's your greatest coach ever. If you decide to stay and and
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keep it up, I think you bring him to a program at Florida or
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LSU and you allow him to then build a foundation of just a
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higher talent level that he's not going to get to Ole Miss
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from high school and then do what he's doing with the portal
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because he's getting kids to buy in, man.
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Like, I know we've talked about culture and hired guns and all
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this other stuff. Lane has done it so well because
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we've gotten multiple cycles now of proof in the pudding.
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And this team is not as talented as last year's team, but he's
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going to make the playoff this year with a less talented team.
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So Lane's my first call for both programs for LSU.
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Marcus Freeman again, I it's dumb because there should be
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fans that say we just tried the Notre Dame coach.
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We're not doing that again. It apples and oranges.
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I know it looks like that in the surface, two different people,
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Marcus Freeman, Jeff Brahms, my third.
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I think those are all proven head coaches that have one in
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big games. I mean big game Brahm.
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Then I've got 2. Like I say, more risk.
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My my 4:00 and 5:00 on all these lists are like more of a risk.
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So John Sumrall, I don't think that's a risky call.
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Again, I think that's the if you're LSU or you going to get
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the coach down the road from the G5 school.
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Same reason I think they didn't hire Billy Napier.
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I just think you're not going to do it at LSU.
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Last one, Daniel, Kevin, Kelvin Shepherd.
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You know who Kelvin Shepherd is? Yeah, former LSU player, current
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defensive coordinator for the Detroit Lions.
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OK, so NFL he's 37 years old. He's young.
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This to me is almost like a Marcus Freeman type coach where
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super young defensive guy like coordinator experience.
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Again, this is the risk of, to me, there's no science and
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trying to figure out who's going to be a good head coach because
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there's guys who check every box who get a job and fail.
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So it's it's all a crapshoot. Again, I think someone who
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understands the SEC and who understands LSU is important.
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A former player checks that box. He's coached in the NFL for the
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last four years, had a decent line.
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He stopped playing in 2018 for the Lions, and he's been outside
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linebackers coach, linebackers coach, defensive coordinator
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starting this year. In 2020, he was the director of
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player development at LSU, so he's also been on the staff.
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It's in some capacity. And this is going to be one of
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the biggest things for this hire to is I mean, people talk about
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culture and I think people think too much about like being Cajun,
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like they think of Coach O and all that.
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But it's really about the connection to former players.
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And so that's one of the biggest things that was, I guess,
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damning in the, you know, Brian Kelly, you know, saga, how that
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all started to play out was that he had not made it inviting for
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former players to come back and be a part of the program.
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And honestly, that's one of the greatest things about college
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football is like you're part of that fraternity forever.
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So why would you not want former players to be around the
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program? I think that that's what sparked
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Miami's resurgence. I mean, you know, obviously
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they're, you know, a couple losses now, but that's what
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sparked them to to do that. I mean, I think that there's
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several things you could say about, you know, players that
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have gone on to NFL success, especially that want to be
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around the program, what to invest in the kids that are
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coming behind them. So I think Shepherd to be, I
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mean, a slam dunk as far as that's concerned.
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I'm with you. OK, That's LSU.
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Do we, we could spend an hour on this.
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How about Florida? Give me your top candidates for
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Florida. I've already said Lane is my
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number one there, but you, you're the top candidates for
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Florida. I mean, I would call Lane if I'm
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Florida, I'm not going to my list.
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I mostly made of I know that you're not going to think
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realistic, but who I am actually projecting.
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So I projected Nick Saban, but I would I would call Lane.
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The other ones I would go with. I mean, Eli Drinkowitz is
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getting a lot of pub. I think that he does a lot of
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what like Florida likes, which is he runs his mouth and then
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he'll like back it up on the field and then he'll kind of
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rally his players. I think that he can kind of toe
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the line, though, better than some of the previous guys that
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Florida has had where his guys aren't having, you know,
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unsportsmanlike conduct penalties and things like that.
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It's more of like a him versus the other coach kind of thing.
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And I think that that is perfectly fine.
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I think his team plays hard for him.
21:18
You know, we've jokingly referred to him as like the
21:21
alpha nerd. And I think that there's a
21:23
certain line of like, he's not going to take things too far in
21:27
the sense that like, it's going to hinder their performance on
21:31
the field. So his ultimate goal is for them
21:34
to perform at the highest level. So I like Eli Drinkowitz,
21:37
obviously offensive play caller, offensive mind has always done
21:42
more with less so far at all the places he's been.
21:44
I think he can get the most out of guys.
21:46
So I think he's a good developer of talent as well.
21:48
And he's been a pretty good recruiter at Mizzou.
21:52
So you kind of put all that together.
21:54
I think that maybe he could rise to the occasion at Florida in
21:57
that regard. I also have James Franklin.
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I have him because I, I'm trying to be realistic, like if certain
22:04
guys say no or they get locked in, James Franklin has SEC
22:08
experience and he's going to be coming for one of these jobs.
22:11
So he's going to, his contract is stipulating that he takes a
22:16
job so that his full buyout gets paid.
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So he is going to take some sort of job somewhere.
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And I, he's a good coach. He's still a good coach.
22:25
He's a floor raiser and I think that teams like Florida and
22:29
Auburn could really use a floor raiser in this season.
22:33
So I have him on the list. Can I, can I pause real quick?
22:38
Franklin, please do. He is my #1 candidate for
22:41
Auburn. I had.
22:42
Him number one for Auburn as well, and Arkansas.
22:45
OK, so to me, Fred, like I want to pause on Franklin.
22:50
He's going to be a name that I think people are going to say he
22:53
was just fired. That's going to look bad for
22:56
Auburn, for Florida. It's look, he was fired because
23:00
he publicly and internally put all their chips into this year.
23:04
They lose to Oregon and I mean, first it was kind of dominating
23:09
fashion. They come back to losing
23:10
overtime. It breaks that team.
23:13
This was a natty or bust year. Obviously hit his record against
23:17
top ten teams is not good. But he is a floor raiser.
23:20
Daniel. He won nine games at Vanderbilt.
23:22
That's still not been done since three years in a row this year,
23:25
three years in a row. We'll see.
23:27
It might be done this year, maybe not.
23:29
Yeah, Franklin is a floor raiser.
23:32
I think he is the coach because if if you're Auburn, This is why
23:35
I think Auburn and Arkansas too. If your stipulation is look at
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his record against top ten teams.
23:42
Look at what he did against this goes back to our conversation
23:44
about best jobs. Look what he did against Ohio
23:46
State and Michigan. We have to play Alabama and
23:48
Georgia every year. My, my response is this is,
23:51
well, do you also want to beat Kentucky and Arkansas and
23:56
Mississippi State? Because he is doing that 10
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times out of 10 and covering every single year.
24:04
Like he, he beats every team he should and he loses the teams he
24:07
shouldn't. He's gotten a couple upsets.
24:09
To me, that's what Auburn had with Gus is you're not losing up
24:12
to a like a back breaking game to a, you know, a five and
24:16
seven. Mississippi State started to
24:18
pick on them again, but and then he'd he'd occasionally beat.
24:22
I mean he beat Alabama and Nick Saban 3 times, beat Georgia
24:25
once. He to me is the perfect fit for
24:27
Auburn because he's a floor raiser.
24:29
I think you go get a coach who's going to guarantee you 9 and
24:32
three because guess what, 9:00 and 3:00 and 10:00 and 2:00 is
24:35
in the playoff in this modern era.
24:37
That's what that means is you have a shot to win a national
24:40
championship. If I'm Auburn, I am, it can be a
24:44
perfect fit. They give me their first call
24:46
and he's like, yes, fresh start in the SEC.
24:49
He has to go look for a job. Yeah, Frank, one of me is
24:52
interesting and I would be excited if I were an Auburn fan
24:55
and they hired James Frank. Yeah, I I agree wholeheartedly.
25:00
But that's that's the thing. I think Auburn and Florida are
25:02
in the same kind of season. I think that as far as like in
25:06
hiring, they both need a guy who's they've got a tough enough
25:10
schedule every year anyways. Like let's beat the teams we're
25:14
supposed to beat. Let's not have any mishaps
25:16
against South Florida or you know, whoever.
25:19
And like, let's just be consistent.
25:21
And James Franklin's the model of consistency.
25:23
So I think that both of those areas needs consistency.
25:27
Other one with Florida, I'm kind of breaking a cardinal rule.
25:30
I didn't even mention it against LSUI, didn't put John Summerall
25:33
because the LSU boosters are not going to hire the Tulane coach.
25:38
It's a whole yeah, the whole thing.
25:40
It's just the mentality. While I'm breaking that with
25:43
Florida and I'm saying that Alex Golish is an option, I think
25:47
that you get to a certain point. I think Alex Golish at South
25:50
Florida is someone you got to look at the way he did such a
25:54
quick turn around and had made it them so legitimate so
25:58
quickly. You have to consider that.
26:00
I do get it. If Florida is at the point where
26:03
they're saying I'm not going to grab another G6 head coach and
26:07
I'm either going to take a coordinator or I'm going to take
26:09
an experienced head coach from, you know, the Power 5 or you
26:13
know, specifically like a James Franklin or whoever.
26:15
I do get, I understand that. But you know, sometimes you just
26:19
got to keep swinging. Like you said, there's no rhyme
26:21
or reason and why a guy is successful or isn't right, and
26:24
so you really have to take that chance.
26:26
So I like Alex Golesh as another option for Florida.
26:29
Yeah, I did too. I wonder if they're like you
26:31
mentioned. I wonder if they're actually
26:32
going to do it because of he's, you know, he's the coach of the
26:36
the South Florida school. OK, you mentioned drink wits.
26:38
I've got Jeff Brahm with my #2 for FM Florida.
26:41
So I've got a three on the LSU board, 3 on the LSU board, 2 on
26:45
the Florida board. Jeff Brahm is just a good head
26:48
coach in I mean, he's his nickname is big Game Brahm for a
26:52
reason. He likes to beat these top teams
26:55
when he's an underdog. Now, he'll also lose the
26:59
occasional, you know, Virginia get what we get.
27:02
Virginia has one loss right now. So they're actually turned out
27:04
to be pretty good. But he'll lose some of those
27:06
games. But again, think about what he
27:07
did at Purdue, which you could argue might be the worst job in
27:11
the Big 10. You know, get given the year
27:14
he's winning at Louisville, they went out.
27:16
He's been in the playoff this year at Louisville.
27:18
I don't think Jeff Brom is a good head coach.
27:20
He's got a ton of experience. And again, this is this is all
27:24
about the Staffs are going to hire to recruiting exchange in
27:26
college football. He can go hire a good GM who can
27:29
handle recruiting. He's a great football coach and
27:32
getting teams to play to a high level.
27:34
He gets quarterbacks to play to a high level.
27:36
He's a great quarterbacks coach, which again, I think styles
27:39
should not matter. But when boosters are paying for
27:42
it, you got to appease to some fans and hey, those are two
27:46
offensive guys. It's kind of what you want.
27:47
If you're Florida, then you know, I've got 2 and then two
27:50
reaches for Florida. Let me say this to Auburn.
27:52
I've got Franklin Sumrall, which we've already talked about as my
27:55
#2 call. I think that would be an
27:57
amazing, both of those would be an amazing fit.
27:59
My 3 on Auburn and my 4 on Florida's Glenn Schuman.
28:02
I think that some of these sparkle has probably come off a
28:06
little bit because Georgia's defense has not been as good
28:08
than the last two years. I think their level of player
28:12
just hasn't been as good the last two years for that Georgia
28:14
defense. But again, Glenn Schumann's had
28:17
head coaching opportunities. He's waiting on a big job.
28:20
These are big jobs. He's an Alabama alum.
28:22
I don't think Caitlin De Boer is going anywhere.
28:25
These are the kind of jobs you finally wait for and take.
28:27
I think he's taking the Kirby approach and that he's he's
28:29
waiting for a big time FCC job because he can and this is the
28:33
kind of job he would take. So that's that's a call I'm
28:36
making if I'm Florida or Auburn and these other guys have said
28:38
no. And then in the same boat.
28:40
Well, this guy's a head coach, but I've got Fram Brown as my #5
28:43
at Florida against Syracuse has not been as good this year.
28:47
I don't think he's getting a call this year, but I'd call him
28:50
given given what he can do on recruiting.
28:52
He's a great coach. He's a player's coach.
28:54
What it seems like so far. Lastly, for Auburn, Clark Lee,
28:58
again, it's it's a crazy world where I said it's Clark, Leelee
29:01
Vanderbilt. He's an alum.
29:02
He can go down with the greatest coach in Vanderbilt history.
29:05
If he keeps up, if he keeps winning, what's going to happen
29:07
with Pavia leaves? I think this is like the year
29:09
he'd leave if he's going to do it because I mean, it's
29:12
Vanderbilt they could go for. Stocks never going to be higher
29:14
than right now. Right, exactly.
29:17
Brett Key I also put down for Auburn.
29:20
Again, those are those are two coaches who are coaching at
29:23
their alma mater. They leave for this job.
29:25
I don't know, but stock at an all time high for both of those
29:29
coaches. Well, that's one thing I was
29:32
going to mention. So you've got Brent Key, you've
29:35
got Clark Lee and you've got Jeff Brohm all coaching at their
29:40
alma mater. But none of those three are like
29:45
the the be all end all. You know, none of those three
29:47
are, you know, it's not the end of the rainbow.
29:50
Kind of a job like Kirby Smart going to Georgia was like,
29:54
that's the job you wait for. And it's also where he went
29:57
outside of going to the NFL or retiring.
30:00
Kirby's not going to leave Georgia.
30:02
But it's, you know, it's it's one thing that people have
30:05
always drawn that line of Dabo to Alabama, you know, at least
30:09
up until a certain point. And then it turned, you know,
30:11
sour. But for a while it was like, oh,
30:13
and Saban leaves maybe Dabo because he went to Alabama.
30:16
You know, you always have home calling if it's a major school.
30:19
But, you know, look, Nick Saban didn't coach it out.
30:22
You know, he didn't coach at Kent State.
30:24
He didn't go back to Kent State. You know, it's like their final
30:27
destination does not have to be where they went played, played
30:31
in college. So I agree with with several of
30:34
those. Clark Lee, I think he's one of
30:36
those guys that he's getting some love to Penn State.
30:39
He's getting some love to maybe to those other schools.
30:42
I'm going to give you my Penn State since that's my number
30:44
three. I've got Jeff Brahm is my number
30:47
one. I think he's probably more
30:49
likely to be a Big 10 coach personally than an SEC coach.
30:54
A lot of times people say, oh, if he's a good coach, he's a
30:56
good coach, I get it. But regional stuff, I mean, I
31:00
think that there is something to be said.
31:02
You have to have some sort of ties to a certain extent.
31:06
You have to have some relationships.
31:08
And I think that he probably does.
31:11
And there's probably just not as obvious of stuff that Brahm has
31:14
done with some of the coaches in the SEC or, you know, gotten
31:19
players out of the Atlanta and different things like that.
31:21
I know they have recruited that area well in Louisville.
31:25
Brian Hartline, offensive coordinator for Ohio State.
31:29
Obviously, he's so famous for how just great at recruiting he
31:33
is. And I think he's kind of I think
31:36
he's going to be one of those guys that's kind of a program
31:37
builder and can kind of oversee everything, but he's never fully
31:42
been kind of on his own as an offensive, you know,
31:47
coordinator. A lot of times it's been a Co OC
31:49
or you know, he's overseen by offensive head coach and all
31:53
that. So this will be interesting for
31:55
him. Take that step out.
31:56
I've got a few more. So at Campbell, I think is going
31:59
to always come up anytime a big job is listed because I think
32:02
he's great at Iowa State. I think a name that's underrated
32:05
might be Manny Diaz, especially if they swing and miss out a
32:08
couple of these at Penn State, like it seems like they might
32:12
have already with Kurt Signetti and Matt Rule.
32:16
If a lot of people keep telling them no Manny Diaz, he's that
32:19
Duke. He was defensive coordinator
32:22
there previously. So I think you can kind of look
32:24
at the ties there. He's used to that.
32:27
And I think that you you look in Manny Diaz, he's got Duke.
32:31
A lot of people compare it. I mean, it's a they tend like,
32:35
you know, institution and that they are a research university
32:38
and all that kind of stuff. So you have to kind of recruit a
32:41
different player anyways. Mandy Diaz, this is my reach.
32:45
I think they might call Urban Meyer.
32:47
There's a chance they call Urban Meyer.
32:51
Penn State has never been necessarily one to be worried
32:55
about. You know, I'm just kidding.
32:57
As far as their, I don't know their overall persona.
33:00
You're. Going to get us in trouble.
33:01
I'm just trying to be careful about it.
33:04
Penn State has not necessarily been the most ethical place in
33:07
the world. And gosh, I don't know, maybe
33:10
Urban Meyer finds a home there and Penn State could be a thorn
33:14
in the side of Ohio State. Think about the public meltdown
33:18
and Urban Meyer went there. I don't know.
33:21
I don't know. I'm just going to throw that one
33:22
out there. I did think we were going to do
33:24
all these jobs, so I did list some for Auburn as well.
33:26
I have James Franklin #1, John summerall #2, Brent key #3 for
33:31
me. Also wild card name Brett
33:34
Lashley. He coached his offensive
33:36
coordinator there under Gus Malzahn.
33:38
He's been the head coach. SMUI don't hate that move at
33:42
Rhett Lashley. I also have him listed for
33:44
Arkansas, potentially James Franklin for Arkansas, Dan
33:49
Mullen for Arkansas. Another name to just keep out
33:52
there in the ether is Eric Morris, North Texas head coach.
33:57
He's really turned them around and got them going.
34:00
So just kind of keep that one in your back pocket.
34:03
Dan Mullen is also getting some play at Virginia Tech, Bobby
34:07
Chesney from JMU, James Madison at Virginia Tech.
34:12
So there's lots of names out there.
34:13
James Franklin is in every conversation, I think, and if
34:19
not the primary, he's at least like a backup somewhere.
34:21
Yeah, I think those are interesting names.
34:23
OK, well, Daniel, we've we've gone, let's see here, we've gone
34:28
38 minutes on the couch, dude, it's a crazy.
34:32
We haven't really talked about it in depth.
34:33
There's a very long first quarter.
34:35
There's a lot of time outs. Yeah, this was and.
34:38
This was like the last two minutes of Georgia, Auburn, just
34:41
it was 2 minutes game time, but it was 38 minutes.
34:47
Yeah. Hey, shout out to newest member
34:50
of the team and he's going to make a cool graphic with our our
34:53
top five jobs, top five candidates for those you'll see
34:56
on social media. So we'll keep you updated on the
34:58
carousel. I don't think, especially LSU, I
35:01
don't think this is happening before December at the earliest.
35:05
Curious question I have to Dana, for all these jobs.
35:07
If if you're LSU and lanes your guy and he's like, I'm
35:12
interested, I want the job, but I'm not going to publicly take
35:16
it until my team is done with, you know, with their season and
35:22
almost the season goes into January.
35:25
Are you willing to wait past the transfer portal window?
35:28
You know, when like early signing day, past early signing
35:31
day, Are you willing to wait? Because my thing is that is one
35:35
class and there's no spring portal window this year.
35:37
That's important. But that's one class.
35:40
Yeah. But again, if it's your guy and
35:43
you feel like you've got your guy, I think it's worth waiting.
35:47
Which schools? You're going to be patient.
35:48
Interesting to watch. Interesting to watch.
35:51
So is that something else to keep an eye on?
35:53
Daniel? We had some football games this
35:55
past weekend. What are two questions you've
35:57
got or your Your first question is we head into week 11.
36:01
Well, we're. Fresh off of CFP rankings last
36:04
night. So Yep, I'm going to have mine
36:07
be relevant to that. How about is the new metric the
36:10
CFP committee using for strength of schedule, is it or strength?
36:15
Excuse me, it's called record strength.
36:17
Is that going to get it right? We've famously, you know, talked
36:20
about how they weigh the wrong things or they're watching
36:24
games, you know, you know, button up shirts and, you know,
36:28
eating sterile popcorn and you know, it's just dude, they're
36:33
all putting their hats in. It's just like these people are
36:36
not enjoying 1 lick of football like I want anyways.
36:39
ANYWAYS, that's a whole nother conversation, but this record
36:43
strength, I am interested in knowing what it what it will do.
36:47
I I am trying to be positive about it because it does seem
36:51
like they're trying to make an actual difference.
36:53
And I love the sport. You love the sport.
36:55
We want that to be good. My initial inclination from
36:58
this, you know, record strength being added as far as the
37:02
criteria that they're weighing heavily, look at look at Oregon,
37:09
they're lower than they are in the AP poll.
37:11
Do they have a win? I mean, God bless them for that
37:14
win at Penn State. They're in the whiteout.
37:16
It's just not going to get the kind of cachet because they
37:19
broke Penn State that day. But what win is a good win?
37:23
It really weighs good wins heavily and it does not punish
37:27
for good losses, losing to a good quality opponent.
37:31
On the flip side, it does kind of ramp up like a loss to a bad
37:35
team and then it minimizes your wins versus good team.
37:38
So for that that example I would point out like maybe Georgia
37:41
Tech, Georgia Tech, it can only control what they can control as
37:44
far as their schedule is concerned, but it does not weigh
37:48
it super heavily when they beat Wake Forest, when they beat Duke
37:51
or Syracuse without the quarterback.
37:53
So looking at where they had them, they had Georgia Tech like
37:57
17 or 18, I can't remember exactly.
37:59
They had Oregon like 9 where the AP has them at 7.
38:04
I think it's helping, but we'll see week to week as games play
38:11
out, how much they change things.
38:13
But I just, you know, this is my question.
38:15
Is this record strength that they're looking at different
38:18
from strength of record, this record strength metric that
38:22
they're looking at? Is this going to be kind of that
38:24
secret sauce that helps the committee kind of see the forest
38:27
for the trees? I see a question, I want to see
38:29
it be consistent. So I am holding my breath week
38:32
to week to see if it'll be consistent.
38:35
But yeah, I think you saw evidence of that already.
38:37
Like you said, I mean, dude, Miami or I have more to say on
38:43
that with our with our XPR in the in the playoff rankings.
38:45
But that's a good question. My first one, Daniel, how many
38:48
teams end up undefeated? We've got 4 left right now.
38:51
We've got Ohio State, Indiana, BYU to say and M My guess is 2
38:58
just percentage wise, I think you go down to one just it's
39:03
hard to predict teams win every game, even if it's a 90% chance
39:07
to win. You know, if you have a 90%
39:09
chance to win three games, that basically gives you 2.7 wins.
39:17
So yeah, you're still favored. But if you know, if you have,
39:21
I'm getting nerdy with math here, but a 70% chance to win
39:25
three games in a row, that's only two point one wins.
39:29
You're counting tour. I get out of three basically.
39:31
So percentage wise, I think it's more like 1.
39:34
I think it's two though. I just I would bet it's Indiana,
39:38
Ohio State because of the level of team they play.
39:40
OK, you're only talking about regular season.
39:43
Regular season regular. Season OK I was like Indiana
39:46
Ohio State, they're undefeated they're gonna have to they're.
39:48
Gonna play each other. In a big tension.
39:49
Maybe that's where it ends up being being one, We'll see.
39:52
But that's a question I have is we've got four teams left.
39:55
BYU is a double digit dog this week, so we'll talk about that
39:59
game here in a minute. But yeah, how many teams end up
40:01
undefeated? What's your second question?
40:04
My second question is related to that, but because we have that
40:09
game this week, Texas Tech BYU is the big 12A1 team bid for the
40:14
CFBI. Think that that's you and I have
40:17
both, you know, in the past couple weeks, we're both on the
40:20
same train of the ACC in the Big 12 being one team bids.
40:23
But after seeing the College Football Playoff rankings coming
40:27
up, you know, they have what is it four teams in the top three
40:34
teams in the top 13 that are Big 12.
40:36
So you know, they value Utah and what Utah's done seven and two
40:40
one of the, you know, higher ranked, two lost teams.
40:43
And then you got BYU and Texas Tech right there, 7 and 8, how
40:46
they play this week. Like if they if they all kind of
40:49
hold and those are valuable wins.
40:52
And let's say, you know, BYU and Texas Tech after this week, they
40:56
both went out, then I kind of think that they're going to
40:59
weigh both of them heavily and you're going to see some of this
41:03
attrition for the other school. You know, the other teams, I
41:06
think they might end up with a second team.
41:08
It depends. We'll have to see.
41:11
We'll have to see as the season goes on.
41:13
Daniel, my second question is funny with you know, we get
41:15
playoff ranking, so we got questions about end of the
41:16
season. Now got to how many 93 teams get
41:19
in. I think you're going to get at
41:21
least one. I think it's going to have to
41:23
come from the SECI. Don't see any more things are
41:26
right now and I'll see a 93 Big 10, Big 12 or ACC team getting
41:30
in. Might be none, but you've got a
41:32
shot at having a 93 Oklahoma, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Texas and
41:38
Missouri because again, you got to think like that 93 Texas
41:42
would have a win over Georgia or Texas ain't it your 93 Oklahoma
41:48
would have a win over Tennessee, obviously, and Texas would have
41:50
a win over Oklahoma. Tennessee would have, you know,
41:53
they've already lost three games to the best three teams they've
41:54
played, so they have to win out. They'd have a win over Vandy.
41:57
Vanderbilt's best one would probably be Missouri at that
42:01
point. Yeah.
42:02
I'm just curious the, you know, how many 93 teams get in?
42:06
My bet right now is it's one question mark I have.
42:13
Let's go ahead and hit halftime, Daniel, because I isn't related
42:15
to what you said. If you're looking on screen now,
42:18
you've got the XPR. We know the college will playoff
42:20
rankings kind of doing some comparison here.
42:23
My, my, my biggest take away is I think the Big 12 is a two big
42:25
lead. I think.
42:27
And my prediction though is the Big 12 will get 2 teams in
42:30
before the ACC does. And I know there's no
42:32
consistency week to week, but given how low ACC teams are
42:36
starting, but wins are going to propel those teams up.
42:41
And we've got Miami at 15. The College Football Playoff
42:44
hasn't been 18. I think they are out unless they
42:48
win the ACC, which means they are relying on teams to lose,
42:51
which again will reinforce that the ACC is the one big lead.
42:55
If those teams lose enough for Miami to make the ACC
42:58
championship. At this point, it's for sure A1
43:00
big, big league. So Indiana, Ohio State, you and
43:04
I both put Ohio State at one. I honestly thought the committee
43:07
would put Indiana at one. We have a number one in our XPR
43:11
right now. They have, I mean, they've got
43:13
one more data point in Ohio State that'll change.
43:15
But they've got nine wins. The Ohio State's 8:00, they have
43:19
a, I don't know, I think a better win.
43:22
I mean, I mean, Oregon's ranked higher so they, they have a
43:23
better win on the road. Ohio State's best one is still
43:27
Texas at home. So I'm surprised it didn't put
43:29
Indiana. I think Ohio State's the better
43:31
team. I think resume wise was
43:33
surprised it wasn't Indiana. Oregon 5 versus 9.
43:36
We've got him at five playoff committees got him at at 9:00.
43:39
And then BYU is my other big 1 of I've got him.
43:43
You know, we've got him at 11, playoff has them at 7.
43:46
I understand that. I think we're they're more right
43:48
on that than we are. I think we're going to be more
43:50
right after this week. They're they're double digit
43:52
dogs. So again, you got to put the
43:54
schedule in front of you, but they're still undefeated.
43:56
So like I think Georgia Tech would have been up here that,
43:59
you know, 7-8 had they kept winning because it's you got to
44:02
put the teams in front of you. But with that loss, I think
44:04
that's why they're down there in the in the low teens.
44:08
Any big takeaways? Any more takeaways from the the
44:10
playoff rankings are compared to our XPR?
44:13
I think just what you're saying about ACC versus Big 12, because
44:17
I think that's kind of what it's come down to as far as who's
44:19
going to have additional bids. Highest ranked ACC team is one
44:25
spot behind the lowest ranked Big 12 team, Utah at 13,
44:29
Virginia at 14. So that kind of tells you
44:33
everything you need to know as far as what the perception, the
44:36
strength and all that kind of stuff is.
44:38
We'll see as it goes on if that's going to be consistent.
44:41
Yeah, that's kind of where things stand.
44:43
All right. That was a fast second quarter
44:44
and half time. Let's keep rolling third
44:46
quarter, Daniel had to third quarter team of the week and
44:50
then three games we're excited to watch.
44:52
Yeah, so team of the Week for me was Texas.
44:55
I had several that I could have chose, but I just felt like
44:58
Texas exorcised some demons playing at home and got they
45:03
really handled Vanderbilt for the most part.
45:06
Vanderbilt made a late push to make this 3 point game.
45:10
We still got the dub as far as our pick goes.
45:12
That was the only one we got for the week, so we needed it.
45:15
But the -2 1/2 covered because it was a three-point line or a
45:18
three-point victory. I just felt like Texas, they
45:22
were able to get the quarterback on the ground.
45:24
They played good defensively. Manning looked comfortable for
45:28
the first time in a while. I felt like you made some big
45:31
time throws. They started fast.
45:34
So you just kind of put it all together and it's like, OK,
45:37
Texas, this is a good win. And I think that maybe this is
45:41
what, you know, the kind of consistency you're going to see
45:45
as they March towards the end of of the season.
45:49
And maybe this is kind of the start of where, you know, they,
45:52
they had all these high expectations and they've kind of
45:54
been declining for a while. And maybe they're going to start
45:56
the climb back to, to national relevance.
46:00
And I think that started this week.
46:01
So Texas, my team of the week, three games I'm watching, I've
46:05
got 2 that are on Friday night. I believe they're both on Friday
46:09
night. No, no, no, no.
46:12
Just kidding. And one's Friday night and then
46:14
one's big noon kickoff. Sorry about that.
46:16
I was looking at another Big 10 game this Friday night, also on
46:19
Fox. But Tulane and Memphis, OK, this
46:23
one has lost some shine. It may have even been a game
46:27
that we were going to pick on our games of the week if if
46:31
Tulane had just won last week. But they lost and they lost kind
46:34
of in blowout fashion. So that kind of all but
46:38
eliminates them from the, you know, Football Playoff.
46:42
I noticed that no teams that were group of six were ranked in
46:46
the initial College Football Playoff rankings.
46:47
So something to keep in mind. But Memphis kind of looks like
46:52
the odds on favorite. So they play at home against
46:55
Tulane. That's a big game.
46:57
You also have those rumors swirling for John Sumrall at
47:00
Tulane and you probably get some Ryan Silverfield as well from
47:04
Memphis as far as this time of year, these coaching
47:07
opportunities. So that's one game.
47:09
Indiana, Penn State, Penn State is now the punching bag for
47:12
everybody. If they were to sneak up and
47:14
beat A-Team like Indiana, that would be insane and kind of
47:16
shake everything up. But 15 1/2 point line there for
47:18
Indiana at home against Penn State, Kurt Signetti, you know,
47:22
kind of imposed his will on them.
47:24
And then I've got Mississippi State and Georgia on this list
47:26
and Mississippi State at home at noon, at 11:00 AM local time.
47:31
You know, Mississippi State has really given difficult games to
47:34
a lot of teams and especially at home.
47:36
And then they got their first SEC win last week.
47:38
So I put both of those together and George is kind of walking
47:41
into this when they're an 8 1/2 point favorite.
47:43
But, you know, you kind of look at, you know, Georgia team
47:47
that's kind of played close with a lot of schools.
47:49
This is a tough, you know, come down off the big win against
47:53
their rival this week against Florida, next week they're
47:56
playing or this week they're playing Mississippi State.
47:59
So something to keep in mind there.
48:01
So those are my three games I'm watching that we're not picking.
48:04
Yeah, that's good. I like the George Mississippi
48:07
State one. I think that's an interesting
48:08
match up for Georgia. I think they're going to be able
48:12
to throw a little bit against Georgia.
48:14
Excited for that one, especially Daniel.
48:16
I've got 1U match for the week. Despite the all blue it was the
48:21
cocktail party. Looked really good on TVI loved
48:26
that game. Always ends at night so you get
48:27
some like sunlight on the uniforms and some stadium
48:30
lights. Looked good in both.
48:32
Great uniform matchup as always in that rivalry.
48:35
This week we've got some bangers.
48:37
Like a couple weeks. Feel like I've been a little bit
48:39
on the weaker side. We've got some bangers this
48:42
week. 1 Clemson versus Florida State, Florida State can wear
48:45
garnet or gold pants won't matter.
48:47
Elite uniform match up against Clemson as long as they're not
48:50
wearing the all orange. I don't know if they're going to
48:52
wear orange britches this year because I mean, what is there
48:55
left to play for really? But it might be a a weird game
48:59
and I don't know who's going to watch, but will be a great
49:02
uniform matchup. Definitely lost some luster of
49:05
what that could have been a couple months ago to Daniel.
49:08
You know, I'm going to say that one to North Carolina and
49:10
Stanford got that Carolina blue, probably my favorite color.
49:16
It's that Stanford Cardinal red again, blue versus red.
49:20
One of my favorite matchups. That will be very good.
49:24
Daniel, one of my favorite. I need to go through and find
49:27
out what's my favorite uniform matchup in the sport.
49:30
I think this one would be top five.
49:32
It's Alabama and LSU. They wear the same uniforms
49:36
every time they play because LSU wears a white at home, looks
49:40
good in whichever stadium, does not matter.
49:43
Love the Alabama and LSU and you know, historically they've
49:46
played this game at night. It will be at night this time.
49:48
This is one of the best uniforms in the matchups in the sport.
49:52
Very much looking forward to watching that game for the
49:55
football, but also it's just going to look really good on TV
49:58
and in Persia. That's a helmet game, Daniel.
50:00
It's just it doesn't get much better than that uniform
50:03
matchup. And isn't it crazy that one's
50:04
one of the ones that's going away from every year because of
50:08
the new SEC schedule? It's like it doesn't feel right.
50:11
So this will be the last one, or I mean last one in sequence.
50:15
It'll miss it next year and then it'll come back the year after
50:17
that. But.
50:18
It is crazy. I, I was looking, you know, a
50:20
few years ago, we did the what we thought would be the
50:24
permanent rivals or whatever. And I think I told you like the,
50:27
the teams Alabama has played the most Auburn, obviously, but then
50:31
it was like Mississippi State and Ole Miss, they've played
50:34
more than LSU. But obviously the last two
50:36
decades, that's one of the premier matchups in the sport.
50:39
I'm surprised because it's done such a good TV numbers.
50:42
I thought ABC would have more of a, more of an influence on the
50:46
schedule then then they, or maybe not they did, but I'm
50:51
surprised the SEC prioritized balance over like premier
50:57
matchups. I'm just cuz I don't think money
50:59
is, you know, money's kind of controlling the sport right now.
51:01
I'm just surprised that ABC was not like, hey, we're paying you
51:05
$300 million or whatever, We're getting Bama, LSU.
51:08
That's just that's how I thought they'd handle.
51:10
That yeah, yeah. Yeah, it does.
51:11
It does stick. We're not getting it.
51:13
Yeah, beautiful uniforms. Those are my 3, Daniel.
51:18
Fourth quarter. Look, we're struggling, all
51:21
right. I'm at 41% against the spread.
51:22
This is by far the worst season I've ever had since we started
51:24
doing the podcast. I might start a fade What I
51:28
think principle this week. So because it's not bad, I
51:32
picked opposite. I'd be almost 60% and get the
51:35
spread, which would be unbelievable.
51:37
Yeah. So you're at 43% and get the
51:40
spread. I'm at 41.
51:41
You're one game ahead of me there.
51:43
Let's start Texas Tech. We went one in three last week.
51:46
We've picked the same what, 2 weeks in a row?
51:48
We've picked the same games. We've gone one in seven, so I
51:52
might just change the pick depending on what you pick.
51:55
Daniel, Texas Tech BYU, Texas Tech A10 point favorite against
52:00
the undefeated Cougars. BYU off a by Texas Tech playing
52:04
six games in a row. Vegas still hanging A10 here you
52:08
got in Lubbock. Texas Tech's the better team.
52:10
I I think they're going to come out and win this game.
52:12
I am famously ABYU denier. Why change?
52:16
So they've burned me a couple times, but at the same time,
52:20
Texas Tech is just, I think they're too good.
52:22
This is at home. This is actually taking the ABC
52:26
slot on, you know, taking it from the SEC at noon.
52:30
So I, I love that. I think that this is I mean,
52:33
this is the Big 12 championship preview right here.
52:36
You know, this this could be in a few weeks what the rematch may
52:39
be. So give me Texas Tech lay the
52:42
points. It's 10 points.
52:44
I think they're going to win this by two touchdowns.
52:46
Plus, I mean, it may be a a bigger game than that.
52:49
So I just think you start looking at some of the the
52:51
details here, that the talent profile, all of that stuff.
52:55
BYU definitely benefited from an easier schedule so far.
52:59
And there this is where it ends. So give me Texas Tech, lay the
53:02
points. Let's keep it easy.
53:05
Yeah, good. Raiders.
53:06
Red Raiders. I put BYU on fraud watch, fraud
53:11
alert. They come out and beat Utah.
53:14
They're awful by Texas Tech playing six games in a row.
53:18
I'm not backing down. I'm not scared.
53:20
Fraud watch. Fraud alert.
53:22
BYU. Vegas knows.
53:25
Vegas knows. That's why they're laying at 10.
53:28
It's been up at 10 1/2, back down to 10.
53:31
Texas Tech wins and covers this game.
53:33
I don't know if BYU can score enough to keep it within 10.
53:35
That's my concern here. Texas Tech most explosive plays
53:40
in the country. They're also the top rushing
53:42
defense on a per play basis in total yards per game in the
53:46
country. They're also 7th in yards per a
53:48
temple out in their past defense.
53:50
That's the most elite unit on the field.
53:52
I don't know if BYU can score enough to keep it close.
53:55
Laid the 10 points. I think this is like a 34 to 20
53:58
Texas Tech win. Think they win by a couple
54:01
scores. Daniel lay the points.
54:02
All the vibes are right to Last time college game day was at
54:05
Texas Tech was do you know? Was it for 2011 or whenever that
54:10
was 20? No, it's 2008.
54:12
Who? 2008 Two. 1000, they played
54:15
against Texas. Colt McCoy and Michael Crabtree
54:18
catch on the sideline. So Van Harrell.
54:21
Yeah, OK. That's.
54:21
Right. Yep, nailed it.
54:25
Give it. We we book at the Red Raiders.
54:27
Hopefully we've got some difference the rest of the way.
54:30
All right. Missouri, Missouri and Texas
54:33
A&M. Missouri at home, Texas A&M,
54:37
undefeated. Missouri's on a backup
54:39
quarterback. Texas A&M goes on the road.
54:43
You know, they got an easier draw in the SEC.
54:45
They're laying seven. Who do you have in Columbia?
54:48
Both of these teams off a bye week, I believe so coming off of
54:51
last week and you know, Texas saying with a huge win at Death
54:55
Valley has their bye week. Mizzou with the loss, Mizzou had
54:59
some tough outcomes and then having to go to a freshman
55:03
quarterback in the fashion that they did is just always tough.
55:07
I will say, I do think that they're extremely talented at
55:10
quarterback still. I think Matthews Dollars is
55:13
going to be a big time player in the SEC for years to come,
55:16
whether that's here or at Florida when he follows Eli
55:18
drink wits over there. But all that he said, I think
55:21
he's going to play well in this game.
55:23
It's not going to matter though, because Texas A&M's defense is
55:26
going to be too good and their offense, I think, you know, my
55:30
mindset has had to catch up to Texas A&M is an explosive
55:34
offense that can beat you in the air on the ground.
55:38
I think they're going to mix both in.
55:40
I don't think that this is a runaway and hide game, like a
55:43
big blow out in the first half, but I think that they are
55:45
probably ahead by 7 or 10 at halftime.
55:51
You know, maybe the last drive of the first half gets them to
55:55
10 points. Like they kick a field goal,
55:57
they go in like 2414 that half and then they come out in the
56:01
second-half and I think that they extend their lead.
56:04
I think this is going to be like a a 17 to 20 point victory for
56:08
Texas A&M. So still a big win, but it's
56:10
more over the course of the game.
56:12
They're just going to be too much for Missouri.
56:15
So yeah, give me, give me the Aggies, lay the points.
56:17
Taking the Tigers, all right, So we're we're going to have some
56:20
difference here. I like Josh Pate's principle
56:23
because I've seen it more often of bet on a backup quarterback
56:27
and a lot of money goes, oh, backup quarterback.
56:30
So, you know, take the other team, lay the points.
56:33
I'm betting on a backup quarterback here that sometimes
56:36
the team as a whole plays better because they know they've got
56:38
they've got to all put in more effort because they've got their
56:41
backup quarterback. We talked about Texas A&M's
56:43
relatively easy schedule, but they've got one of the best ones
56:46
in the country at Notre Dame. I think they've looked like even
56:49
eye test wise, they've looked like the best team in the SECI.
56:53
Don't think Missouri can score enough to win this game, but I
56:56
think they can play keep away, run the ball a lot and keep it
57:00
close. Missouri is 87th in sack
57:03
percentage in Texas A&M. Can rush the pastor.
57:05
I don't think that's a good match up, but Missouri can rush
57:08
the pastor too. And I want to see what Texas
57:10
A&M's offensive line looks like when they've got an elite pass
57:13
rush coming at them that Missouri has.
57:15
Daniel, I think it's going to be a one score SEC game.
57:18
I said beginning of the year. I don't think anybody's getting
57:20
out of the SEC unscathed. I think this is a game they
57:23
could lose. I don't think they're going to
57:25
I'm I'm taking Texas AM to win, but I'm going to middle it.
57:27
Gimme Missouri plus the seven. I liked it at 7, which it was 7
57:32
1/2. But I think they can play keep
57:34
away in this game, limit possessions.
57:36
This seems like a 27 to 21 Texas A&M win.
57:41
And you know what? You take that and you move on
57:44
and you and you you're one step closer to Atlanta.
57:46
You take a win in any shape or form and wins a win and you move
57:50
on. Good teams win in November.
57:52
I think Texas AM is a good team. I think they're going to win the
57:54
game. I think sevens just like I got
57:57
point too much. So give me the Tigers to cover
57:59
here. I think they can keep it close
58:02
with Texas A&M. We go to the Big 10 A-Team we've
58:07
had in the XPR, not ranked in the AP.
58:09
They are ranked in the first College Football Playoff
58:11
rankings. Iowa quietly only has two
58:14
losses. They played in Indiana closer
58:17
than any other team has this year.
58:19
As A1 score game, Oregon comes into town.
58:22
The Ducks land 6 1/2. Who do you like in this game in
58:26
Iowa City? Yeah, I think that this one,
58:29
this one's huge because Iowa, like you just said, they were,
58:33
they're probably the best opponent for Indiana so far as
58:37
far as keeping them close and making them kind of look human.
58:40
And they had to make plays at the end of the game to really
58:43
take that one, make that one a big time win.
58:46
This one in Iowa, Oregon's coming in.
58:50
They're the they're the serious contender here.
58:52
Of course, Iowa is trying to play spoiler.
58:55
I like Oregon to come in here and try to make a statement.
58:58
I think that they were embarrassed by the Indiana loss.
59:02
And I think that over the course of the year, they don't have
59:06
enough teams on their schedule to be impressive wins.
59:09
This is as close as they're going to get on the road to
59:11
Iowa. I think that they're going to
59:14
come in them against the world they feel disrespected, their
59:18
College Football Playoff position, and they're gonna have
59:21
to win this. You know the old phrase of style
59:24
points. They're gonna have to do that
59:25
here. So I like them to come in like
59:28
Dante Moore thinks gonna have a big day on the road.
59:30
Yeah, give me the give me the Ducks.
59:32
I think that they win by, I think at least two touchdowns in
59:35
this game. So 6 1/2 points, I'll take it.
59:38
I'll lay that easy. Give me the Ducks.
59:40
I'm with you man. I think 1 glaring mismatch in
59:42
this game is the Iowa offense against the Oregon defense.
59:46
Surprise, the Iowa offense has been better, but this is still a
59:50
glaring mismatch. Look, Oregon offense best EPA
59:53
per rush team in the country or Iowa defense top 15 in that
59:56
category. They've been top 7 and EPA per
59:59
drop back. It's it's a good Iowa defense
1:00:01
surprise that you know, that is normal.
1:00:04
The mismatch is on the other side.
1:00:05
I Iowa's offensive and better, but they're still think of
1:00:09
they're 100 teeth in success rate when they're passing the
1:00:11
ball. They are 76th and EPA drop back.
1:00:15
Just not a great passing offense and you're going up against the
1:00:18
team. Daniel, this is the number four
1:00:20
team in the country. In EPA, per drop back allowed,
1:00:25
this is a very good pass defense on a per play basis.
1:00:29
They don't let you know. They force more field goals and
1:00:32
touchdowns. I think that's the mismatch in
1:00:34
this game. I think it's lower scoring.
1:00:35
Give me Oregon 24, Iowa 13. I think Oregon wins and covers.
1:00:40
Yeah, 6 1/2. Almost like a sucker because it
1:00:42
seems like easy money. Nothing's ever easy money, but I
1:00:45
feel pretty confident about the Ducks laying the points in this
1:00:48
one. Daniel we end with what should
1:00:51
have been a premier match up in the SEC, Alabama and LSULSU.
1:00:55
Daniel you would think they're two and seven with the way, you
1:00:59
know, with what the program did with firing people and drama and
1:01:03
all the stuff coming out. They're only five and three men.
1:01:06
They're they're yeah, they're going on the road to Alabama.
1:01:10
Alabama. It's a 10 point favorite.
1:01:11
Both teams off of a by. Who do you like in Tuscaloosa?
1:01:15
Yeah, this one there. I mean, the expectations just
1:01:20
became too much and you go from terrible culture, terrible just
1:01:25
vibes with Brad Kelly and blaming everybody, to Frank
1:01:30
Wilson, who I think is just LSU guy.
1:01:33
He's got deep ties, the state of Louisiana.
1:01:35
He's obviously been at LSU multiple times, 30 years as a
1:01:38
coach. He's their recruiting
1:01:39
coordinator. So it's like you don't make a
1:01:41
guy like that if he doesn't have great relationships.
1:01:43
You know, you think about guys that are directors of player
1:01:46
development, all that kind of stuff.
1:01:47
So I think you're going to have a team in LSU that is going to
1:01:52
be fighting and scratching and clawing, giving everything
1:01:55
they've got. They've had two weeks to
1:01:56
prepare. Obviously both of them did, but
1:01:58
I'm just saying that's why the the firing was, you know, during
1:02:03
the bye week. That's just something where they
1:02:05
can kind of get their staff in order to get everything kind of
1:02:08
going in the right direction. I think they're able to also get
1:02:10
healthy. LSU still a good a collection of
1:02:15
players are I stopped short of calling them a good team, but
1:02:19
they are a good collection of players.
1:02:21
They have the ability to become a good team.
1:02:24
They can still, you know, I mean, I want to say they can
1:02:28
make the playoff. They could go 9 and 3.
1:02:30
They'd have to win the rest of their games.
1:02:31
It's not likely with an interim coach.
1:02:34
But Nosmeyer's a good a good quarterback.
1:02:36
He's not elite. I think that's what's been kind
1:02:38
of evidence so far this year. The team hasn't been able to get
1:02:42
out of their own way. I'm talking a lot about LSU.
1:02:45
I'm not talking about Alabama for a reason.
1:02:47
Alabama is the standard in this game.
1:02:50
This isn't Bryant Denny Stadium. They're the better team.
1:02:54
They have played with their food a lot this year.
1:02:58
They've had several games. Obviously the first game they
1:03:01
got burned against Floor State where they just did not do what
1:03:04
they need to do. But even after the win versus
1:03:07
George, which kind of galvanized them and they they've had some
1:03:10
games where they have let the other team stay in it.
1:03:13
For that reason, I think 10 points is too much.
1:03:15
I think LSU is going to come in and be very inspired in this
1:03:19
game. And this is kind of the last of
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its kind, you know, cuz this next year, the SEC schedule
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changes. I think a lot of that factors
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in. And I think LSU is too good of a
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team to be a 10 point underdog. I'm probably going to be eating
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my words on Monday whenever we talk about whenever we look at
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this. But yeah, give me LSU and the 10
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points. I think that Alabama is going to
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be happy to get out with a win. And yeah, I'll, I'll just leave
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it there. LSU plus 10.
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Bama still probably wins, but too close for this. 10 points.
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Yes, want to believe again, man? All right, me too.
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Alabama. I'll say this, I don't think
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Alabama's play with their food. I think Alabama, the gap's just
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not as big in the SEC this year. I just don't think there is a
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right now, I don't think there is an Ohio State level team in
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the SEC in the middle of the SEC.
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Look, call it bias, call it what you want.
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The middle of the SEC is better they in the middle of these
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other conferences and they the collection of talent is better
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than these other conferences. So I think LSU, I think you're
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going to see the best effort they've given this season.
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I have read that there is even some players you don't like
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Brian Kelly, who love Frank Wilson.
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There's a reason you fire before the bye week.
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You either let them take this loss and fire him or you fire
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before the bye week to get, you know, to have two weeks to get
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ready. You saw this from Florida last
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week. You saw an inspired effort.
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You saw one of their best efforts of the season.
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They by no means had given it up on the season.
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That was their best effort. They wanted to go out and be
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Georgia. I think you see that from LSU
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this week. This will be the best defense
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Alabama has faced. This is still a top 10 defense
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in the country in LSU. The offense has just been
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abysmal, which is why Brian Kelly got fired.
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He never put together a good offense with a good defense at
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LSU. The defense is very good.
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This very good at LSU. So I think you get an inspired
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effort with two weeks to prepare.
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Alabama 28, LSU 20. I think it's within, you know,
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and maybe it's even LSU scores late, right?
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Maybe it's, you know, we have a chance still and they score 3
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minutes left and they try an on sidekick and well, it's kind of
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A2 score game the whole time. Maybe it's like that.
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But I do think 10 points is a lot for a defense that's this
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good and a team that I don't think will have quit for this
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game. So I can be LSU plus 10.
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Alabama could absolutely just smoke them like Texas A&M did at
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home. But give me one more week to
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believe in LSU. All right, give me one more week
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and we'll go from there. Daniel long episode.
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We had a lot to talk about. Let's let's go for no this week.
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