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10-27: SEAHAWKS TRADE NEWS! Offensive line discussion and Jori Epstein · The Gregg Bell Show

• 0:07
  Speaker 1: Good morning. No, this is not Ted Koppel in Nightline
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: from my childhood.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I would love to have gotten the opportunity
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  Speaker 2: to meet him.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, man, he was great. I did, and he was phenomenal.
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  Speaker 3: But you were equally.
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  Speaker 1: He was phenomenal. The news is, the breaking news here.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning on a Tuesday here on 93.3 KJFM. Greg
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: Bell and Jess Mackey. The breaking news. The Seahawks have
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: made a trade with the Indianapolis Colts. Multiple reports saying
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  Speaker 1: they are sending a third-round pick, a fifth-round pick to
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  Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts for three-time All-Pro guard Quentin Nelson. Nelson's
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  Speaker 1: in the final year of his contract. He did 30
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  Speaker 1: in May. He was an All-Pro in each of the
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  Speaker 1: first three seasons in the league with the Colts, the Colts'
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  Speaker 1: sixth overall pick in 2018. His four-year $ 80 million contract
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  Speaker 1: ends with the end of this season. He's been a primarily,
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  Speaker 1: not primarily, has been a left guard with the Colts.
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: The Seahawks already have one of those, of course, and
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  Speaker 1: Gray Zabel, for the foreseeable future, the stud left guard.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to talk about what this means for Anthony Bradford,
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  Speaker 1: for Zabel. There you go. Ted Koppel redo.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'd like to keep it playing.
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  Speaker 1: Seahawks trading for Quentin Nelson, sending a third and a fifth.
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  Speaker 1: I can't imagine this is a rental. I think that
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  Speaker 1: John Schneider would not make this deal for two draft
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  Speaker 1: picks if he didn't think he could re-sign Nelson beyond
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  Speaker 1: this season. Reminds me of the Dwayne Brown trade, the
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  Speaker 1: left tackle from the Houston Texans who was acquired on
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  Speaker 1: an expiring contract and soon after the Seahawks gave him
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  Speaker 1: an extension and he became a pillar on the offensive line.
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  Speaker 1: That appears to me at first blush what's going on
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  Speaker 1: here with the Seahawks trading for Quentin Nelson. I can't
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  Speaker 1: imagine they'd give up a third and a fifth of
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  Speaker 1: just having for three months, right? So we'll talk about
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  Speaker 1: how he may fit. We'll talk about how Charles Cross's
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  Speaker 1: injury at left tackle might affect all this. Seahawks trading
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  Speaker 1: for Quentin Nelson, the three-time All-Pro guard, when the Indianapolis Colts.
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  Speaker 3: And now let's get to the rest of the headlines.
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  Speaker 4: Now, from the Star Reynolds Sports Desk, your 93.3 KJR
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  Speaker 4: FM Sports Headlines.
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  Speaker 1: So beyond the trade for Quentin Nelson, the Seahawks may
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  Speaker 1: get Jadarian Price and Zach Charbonnet back playing Monday night
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  Speaker 1: against the Bears. Or one might play, or neither might play.
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  Speaker 1: That's what Coach Mike McDonald said yesterday. He's lapped Pete
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  Speaker 1: Carroll in obtuse injury information.
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  Speaker 3: He's gotten pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: He's just obtuse now. About Charles Cross yesterday, you know
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  Speaker 1: what he said? He's got an ankle. It's Monday.
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  Speaker 3: And then the follow-up was also, is it a high ankle?
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  Speaker 1: He's got an ankle. So I learned yesterday that Charles
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  Speaker 1: Cross still has both of his ankles after playing against
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  Speaker 1: the Chiefs. That's good news.
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  Speaker 3: To be honest, Mike McDonald only.
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  Speaker 1: Referenced one of them.
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  Speaker 2: That's true.
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  Speaker 1: He might only have one ankle now. He said he
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  Speaker 1: had an ankle.
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  Speaker 3: He's pretty good. I think there is some P. Carroll
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  Speaker 3: book that he has read.
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  Speaker 1: He's lapped P. Carroll. Carroll would have given you more
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  Speaker 1: than that. Rashid Shaheed's knee injury, quote, early returns are positive,
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  Speaker 1: Coach Mike McDonald said. Seahawks play next Monday night against
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  Speaker 1: the 5-2 Chicago Bears. The Cowboys ran the ball for
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  Speaker 1: 200 yards last night, beat the Eagles with their Philadelphia's
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  Speaker 1: backup quarterback Dallas, now 3-4, which puts them right in
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  Speaker 1: the middle of it in the NFC East, right? Giants
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  Speaker 1: lead that Division at 4, 2, and 1. At 11 o'clock,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to talk to Jory Epstein, a Yahoo Sports
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  Speaker 1: senior NFL writer. She's in Philadelphia. She was in the
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  Speaker 1: stadium last night for the Cowboys and the Eagles, and
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  Speaker 1: she'll tell us a bunch about what's going on in
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles. Jalen Hurts, the league and the players' union,
• 3:38
  Speaker 1: a joint investigation of how they handled Jalen Hurts. We're
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  Speaker 1: going to talk to Jory about that at 11 o'clock.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that one has legs, that entire story.
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  Speaker 1: Jay-Z is going to be the halftime show in Super
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  Speaker 1: Bowl 61 in February. Are you in favor? You like that, Jessalyn?
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  Speaker 2: I have enjoyed many of a halftime show, and the
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  Speaker 2: ones that I haven't, I just don't care. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: have my favorites. And I really, I was at the
• 4:05
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl this year when the Seahawks won, by the way.
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  Speaker 3: I really love Bad Bunny's performance.
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  Speaker 2: And where we were set up for the media, I
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  Speaker 2: actually was hanging out with all the people who were
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  Speaker 2: part of the show.
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  Speaker 3: And after that show ended, I had to go back.
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  Speaker 2: To get my laptop in that same area, and the
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  Speaker 2: band continued all of this.
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  Speaker 1: They looked like moving trees from the press box.
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  Speaker 2: It was made for TV for sure. I got to
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  Speaker 2: watch them get ready, and I thought that was really fun.
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  Speaker 1: I'll take that as a no for Jay-Z. You didn't
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  Speaker 1: answer the question. I haven't seen him in person. That
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  Speaker 1: must be a no, because I said, are you in favor,
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  Speaker 1: and you went off on a bad bunny thing.
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  Speaker 2: I was saying the Super Bowl performances that I've enjoyed
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  Speaker 2: are not necessarily concerts that I've been to. And so
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  Speaker 2: I have not been to a Jay-Z concert. I have
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  Speaker 2: very much enjoyed Super Bowl halftime shows by artists I
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  Speaker 2: haven't seen.
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  Speaker 3: That was my point.
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  Speaker 1: day through Dave Softy Muller and Dick Fane. This afternoon,
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  Speaker 1: if you missed the news at the very top of
• 7:25
  Speaker 1: the show with the Ted Koppel Nightline joiner, the Seahawks are,
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  Speaker 1: per multiple reports, the Seahawks are trading for Quentin Nelson,
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  Speaker 1: the all-pro guard from the Indianapolis Colts. He's an $ 80
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  Speaker 1: million guard. He's in the final year of his contract.
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  Speaker 1: final months of his contract, in fact. He turned 30
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  Speaker 1: in May. He's a three-time All-Pro and eight-time Pro Bowler.
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  Speaker 1: This guy's good. This is one of the preeminent guards
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  Speaker 1: in the league. They think they already have one in
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  Speaker 1: Gray Zabel on the left side. Nelson has been a
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  Speaker 1: left guard. So now what? Anthony Bradford just came back
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  Speaker 1: from injury reserve last week to play for the first
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  Speaker 1: time in a month. His contract is ending, too, and
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  Speaker 1: Jessamyn Knowing John Schneider, the way he has operated in
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  Speaker 1: 17 years, I've known him for every one of those years,
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  Speaker 1: he's not into renting players, to giving up draft picks,
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  Speaker 1: multiple picks, just to have a player for a couple months.
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  Speaker 1: Think Rashid Shaheed last year. Think Dwayne Brown. He makes
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  Speaker 1: it a priority. Before he trades for these type of players,
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  Speaker 1: he goes to the agents, okay, what's it going to
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  Speaker 1: take to keep him beyond this season? He would not
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  Speaker 1: make this deal if he didn't already have an idea
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  Speaker 1: what it will take to re-sign Quentin Nelson. So it
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  Speaker 1: appears to me that Quentin Nelson and Gray Zabel will
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  Speaker 1: be the guards going forward. Zabel, of course, only two
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  Speaker 1: years into his four-year rookie deal with a fifth-year option.
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  Speaker 1: I think this spells Anthony Bradford's route out of town.
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  Speaker 1: There's no way, right, that you're going to trade two picks,
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  Speaker 1: even if it's third and fifth. Third to John Schneider
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  Speaker 1: is they got Russell Wilson in the third round. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: third round is a pick. And they trade him. They're
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  Speaker 1: going to keep him. They're going to re-sign him, as
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  Speaker 1: they did Shaheed. as they did Dwayne Brown, as they
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  Speaker 1: did Leonard Williams when they made a midseason trade. He's
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  Speaker 1: not in the rentals. He's doing this to me with
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  Speaker 1: a purpose beyond 2026. It would appear that means Anthony
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  Speaker 1: Bradford would be leaving. Now they have three guards. Could
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  Speaker 1: Bradford perhaps be part of a trade before November 10th' s
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  Speaker 1: trade deadline? But it would look like to me Anthony
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  Speaker 1: Bradford is the odd man out. Of course the coaches
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: have said they loved Anthony Bradford, love him more than
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: probably a lot of you do who put your GIFs
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: or GIFs or whatever those called on the internet.
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  Speaker 3: He was a welcome back, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: It sure worked, didn't it? He got a 100-yard rusher
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  Speaker 1: and no sacks.
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  Speaker 2: Without your two top running backs on the field?
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  Speaker 1: Right. It just strikes me, knowing how John Schneider does business,
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  Speaker 1: that he would not make this move and trade two
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  Speaker 1: picks for someone he's only going to get for a
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  Speaker 1: few months. So, to me, Quentin Nelson is going to
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  Speaker 1: be the guard. I would think right guard, I don't
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: think he moved Gray Zabel as great as Zabel has been. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Anderson Hurst floated something to me as I was coming
• 10:07
  Speaker 1: into the studio here and they were departing from the
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: morning show. Maybe what does this have to do with
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  Speaker 1: Charles Cross's injury? And maybe in the meantime, one of
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: those guards can play tackle. Could Gray Zabel move out
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  Speaker 1: to tackle? Could Anthony Bradford's never played tackle. You wouldn't
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: move Bradford from the right guard to left tackle, you
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't think.
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  Speaker 2: No, that's quite a shift because guards are very different
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  Speaker 2: than tackles.
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  Speaker 3: And that's the other side of the line.
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: Spoken like a lineman coach's daughter.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, my dad played offensive line.
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: He just became a defensive coach.
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: It's in your genes. But there is now, they have
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: three starting guards for two positions with a left tackle injured.
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  Speaker 6: So.
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: Josh Jones has been the veteran swing backup tackle that
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: has replaced Charles Cross when he got hurt the other night.
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: The high ankle sprain reportedly, Ian Rappaport of NFL Network
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  Speaker 1: reported yesterday afternoon that Cross has a high ankle sprain
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  Speaker 1: and will miss one or two games. And Mike McDonald
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: pumped the brakes on all of that yesterday. He said, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: He's got an ankle. It's Monday. We'll see what's going on.
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  Speaker 1: He wouldn't even admit to a high ankle sprain, which
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  Speaker 1: is ligament damage further up the knee and the shin.
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  Speaker 5: So.
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  Speaker 1: Here we go. The Seahawks make a big move. It's
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  Speaker 1: not for a running back. And we talked about how
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: it's probably not going to be for Jonathan Taylor or
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley, because if you did that, why would you
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: take on 16, $ 18 million a year and lose a
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  Speaker 1: first or second round pick when you could have just
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: re re re signed Kenneth Walker for less without giving
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  Speaker 1: up any picks. So to me, it doesn't make sense
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  Speaker 1: that they're going to make some splash move there, but
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: here's your splash move every year in the middle of
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: the season. Mike, John Schneider looks at his roster and says,
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: what do we need to augment? And he said, interior
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  Speaker 1: offensive line, let's go get a three-time All-Pro. What's it
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  Speaker 1: going to take? And this is the move. Quinton Nelson
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  Speaker 1: from the reeling Colts to the contending Seahawks for a
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  Speaker 1: third and a fifth. 49451 on the Comodage text line.
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  Speaker 1: Your reaction to this trade and what you'd like to
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  Speaker 1: see happen with the Seahawks offensive line. Would you want
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  Speaker 1: to see Anthony Bradford stay? Do you want somebody going
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  Speaker 1: to play left tackle? Well, They got a pretty good
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  Speaker 1: one in Charles Cross, who they just minted last year.
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  Speaker 1: He's currently injured, but they've got three guards for two positions.
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  Speaker 1: What you'd like to see happen with that. 49451, we'll
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: read back your text at 1130. What else are we
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  Speaker 1: going to have on the show today? We're going to
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: talk about the running back situation. You'll hear from Coach
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: Mike McDonald about that. Jadarian Price could come back this week.
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: He's now eligible to off the injured reserve list. He's
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  Speaker 1: missed the minimum four games. His 21-day practice window is closed.
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  Speaker 1: according to Mike McDonald, expected to begin this week. You'll
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: hear Mike McDonald answer the question of whether it's going
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  Speaker 1: to be a 21 days, just like the full 21
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: days Zach Charbonnet took. Is Price going to be in
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: for 21 days of practice before he plays? You'll hear
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  Speaker 1: his answer to that. At 11 o'clock, it's our weekly
• 12:57
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. We'll hear from her at 11 o'clock. Tori Epstein,
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: She told me she was at the game last night
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  Speaker 1: and texted me this morning and said, yep, I can
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  Speaker 1: go all into Eagles and the Jalen Hurts situation and
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Brian Schottenheimer last night, the former Seahawks offensive coordinator,
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  Speaker 1: found an offense. It's called running the ball. They ran
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  Speaker 1: for 200 yards. How's that? Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: What a concept.
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  Speaker 1: Right. And Dak Prescott was the beneficiary of a balanced offense.
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  Speaker 1: They beat the backup quarterback for the Eagles last And
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles, what, 2-5, so everyone's saying, oh, fire sale
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  Speaker 1: for Howard Roseman. They're only two and a half games
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: out of the division league because 4-2-1 is the division
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  Speaker 1: lead right now with the tie. The Giants have a
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  Speaker 1: half game on the rest of the field. The Cowboys
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  Speaker 1: probably think, oh, we're back in it, 3-4, game and
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  Speaker 1: a half out. That's what the NFC East is. Someone's
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: going to win that division, and someone's going to have
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: a home playoff game. And it could be the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 1: or the Rams or the 49ers, Seahawks somehow overtake the 49ers,
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  Speaker 1: could be going to the NFC East champion or the
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  Speaker 1: NFC South champion in the first round in a wildcard matchup.
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  Speaker 1: So that's why we keep our eyes on the NFC East,
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: and we'll talk about the NFC North with Jory. Brian Flores,
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, everywhere he goes, every team he has, he
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: does wonders with defense. And he's doing it again with
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: the 6-0 Vikings, who barely score 18, 17, 18 points
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: a game, yet they're 6-0. We'll talk to her about
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: how that happened. The free-falling Raiders, they've lost four in
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: a row now, and there's talk about, well, we're going
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: to look at quarterback two, Fernando Mendoza waiting in the wings,
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: the number one overall pick from Indiana, while Kirk Cousins
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: has been the starter. The Clint Kubiaks began that coach's
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: head coaching career 3-0, and now they've lost four in
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: a row, including after the Rams mopped them up in
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: Las Vegas the other day. We'll talk about all that
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: and more with Joy at 11 o'clock, 1130. We'll read
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: back your text. We'll do your talkbacks on the iHeartRadio app. Please.
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: Pretty please. Don't call me pretty ever again.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: We've got to replay that at some point.
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  Speaker 3: It's deleted from existence.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: Really? You didn't keep it?
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: It's in the podcast.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, good.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't do that.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: Jackson didn't keep it as some kind of drop or
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: whatever they do?
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: No, Softie's the one that does that.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, Softie didn't keep it? There was a request on
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: the text line yesterday that we replay that.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: It was the end of a very thoughtful talkback.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: I think it was thoughtful through the tape, actually, through
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: the end. I don't think it was not thoughtful.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: At the end. It was just the end.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: I think it was still thoughtful.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: It was kind.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: And it was accurate.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: Just kind.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: We'll do that at 1130 like we do every day.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: And today it's Jessamyn's pick on our Factor Fiction pick,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: like the Lucky Eagle Casino and Hotel.
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: It's early in the week, folks.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: It's early in the week. That means that everything's on
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: the table.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: That is true. Everything's on the board. You know, one
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: thing we don't do as a show here that I
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: know a lot of shows do on the station, chasing
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: picks was like the Monday night game on a Monday.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: Ian is, I think, captain of that.
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure he does that.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: And their show is where they are. So we're going
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: to stick with our method, I think.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: I like our method.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: As long as I just go one and one every
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: week and you keep crushing it, I think we're pretty good.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Four and one in consecutive weeks. We are lapping the
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: field currently. We're the only one above 500. I think we're, what, nine, seven,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: eight games over 500 while everyone else is underwater. And
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: our fact or fiction picks. So, again, at 1135, the
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: abridged version of how you do it is if you
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: want to win, you don't even have to know what
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: the pick is. 1135, if you want to win $ 1, 000,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: text fact to 49451. You'll get a bounce back. Because
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: our show, 80% of the time, or whatever it is now,
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: we've gone 4-1 in consecutive weeks. 80% of the time,
• 17:59
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• 18:00
  Speaker 1: If you don't want to win $ 1, 000, text fiction to 49451.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: That's how we play the game on this show. at 11.35.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Ian will join us at 11.45, telling us what's on
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: his show, 12 until 3. He won't be in TV
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: gear because Kraken are off until tomorrow. They're practicing but
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: not playing until tomorrow against the Toronto Maple Leafs. 49451,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: I already asked you what you think of the Seahawks trade.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Reported trade of two picks, a third and a fifth
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: round pick to the Indianapolis Colts to get three-time All-Pro
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: guard Quentin Nelson, 30 years old on an expiring contract.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Your thoughts about that? what they should do with Anthony Bradford.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: They now have three guards for two spots. The second
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: question for the text line, who should the Huskies start
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: a quarterback in Nebraska on Saturday night? But there's two
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: different questions here. Who should they start? And who do
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: you think Jed Fish will actually start?
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: Those are two very different questions.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: And I think they're going to be two different. That's
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: what's going to happen. I think that Fish is going
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: to go back to DeMond Williams for the money they've
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: put in.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: That's the thing about the NIL.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: And when it comes to college football now, I mean,
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: We're getting the same questions. I'm not saying that I
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: was the one asking them, but we get the same
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: questions on our side of the state with Washington State.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: Why was Pinnock in for so long?
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Exactly, because the donors are paying for him.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying that because I don't know, but that
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: question is out there for sure.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Of course it is. And then you're going to ask
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: the same donors at the end of the year to
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: now keep Eshelman. If Eshelman for Washington State has a
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: couple good games here, Somebody's going to take him. I
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: heard Rick Neuheisel on the show on my drive in
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: with Chuck talking about nobody in college football has number
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: two quarterbacks anymore. He's talking about how Ohio State has
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: to go to their backup because Julian Sane is out
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: for the season. Ohio State's playing USC this week down
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: in the Coliseum. And Rick Neuheisel made the point, and
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: he's exactly right. Nobody has No. 2 quarterbacks anymore because
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: the backups that could be playing have all signed somewhere else.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: The guy that was Ohio State's quarterback No. 2 last
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: year is now Louisville's starting quarterback. So nobody has No.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: 2s.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: They all have No.
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: 3s.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: They have 1s and 3s in college football. And so
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: that's the Huskies appear to have a bona fide No. 2,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: at least how Elijah Brown fared at Purdue. He made
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: three interceptions, but he threw three touchdowns. They scored 30 points.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: He started games at Stanford. I mean, this guy's a
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: legit college quarterback.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: Who would you choose?
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: I would Elijah Brown on performance, and he can stand
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: in a pocket. He can look over the offensive line.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: But the same donors you're going to ask to keep
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Elijah Brown are the ones who gave $ 4 million to
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: keep Now, part of that's revenue share out of the
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: athletic department coffers. But you went to the donors and said,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: we need to keep DeMond Williams. And now you're going
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: to go back and say, well, we need to keep
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Elijah Brown. And DeMond Williams is going to go somewhere
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: next year? Is that how we're doing this in college football? Anyway, 49451,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: who you'd like to have as the Huskies starting quarterback
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: against Nebraska? Yet, who do you think? Jed Fish will
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: actually start at 5 o'clock on Saturday. That's going to
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: be right here on 93.3 KJR. Of course, with Elyse Woodward,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Cam Cleland, and Dave Softy-Moller from Lincoln, Nebraska. Up next,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: the Seahawks running back situation. Jadarian Price could come off
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: the injury reserve list this week. Will he? Will Zach
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Charbonnet make his season debut? He's been put on the
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: active roster, but he was inactive Sunday night against Kansas City.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: And what does Emmanuel Wilson's 100-yard rushing game against the
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Chiefs do to change this picture? Does it change John
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Schneider's mind about acquiring a running back? He just acquired
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: an all-pro, three-time all-pro guard today, Quentin Nelson from the Colts.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: We'll talk about the running back situation next on 93.3 KJRFM.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Welcome back. Greg Bell and Justin McIntyre with you on
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: 93.3 KJFM. For this Tuesday morning, we had a trade.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: The Seahawks made a trade. Eight-time Pro Bowl, three-time All-Pro guard,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Quinton Nelson, coming to Seattle to join the Seahawks offensive line.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Seahawks reportedly giving up a third round and a fifth
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: round pick for Nelson, who's 30 years old in the
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: final year of his contract. As I said, I don't
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: see this as a rental. That's not John Schneider's way.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Think Ernest Jones. Think Leonard Williams. Think Rashid Shahid. Think
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: back to Dwayne Brown. All the midseason trade acquisitions that
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: he has then re-upped at the end of their deals.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: A couple things we didn't mention at the top, Jessamyn,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: that are interesting. Graves Abel played center at the Senior
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Bowl when he was coming out of North Dakota State.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: And some people in the NFL scouted him to be
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: a center and thought he might be a center. Would
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: they make that move in the middle of a season?
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Instead of Jalen Sundell, I'm not sure
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: about that.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't do it.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: I would not mess up Zabel's trajectory because he's doing
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: so well.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: He is doing great.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: He played right guard at North Dakota State. So you
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: could move him to right guard and have Quentin Nelson
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: be where he's been a Hall of Fame trajectory career
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: so far. Eight years at left guard for the Indianapolis Colts. And,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: of course, the odd man out there would be Anthony Bradford.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Bradford's in the final year of his deal as well. Interesting, though,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: that they now have three guys for two spots, and
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: what are they going to do with that? Quentin Nelson
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: is one of 16 players in NFL history to make
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl in each of his first eight career seasons.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Twelve of those 16 that are eligible to be in
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame are. Sixteen players in NFL history
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: have made the Pro Bowl in each of their first
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: eight career seasons. 12 of those 16 are retired more
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: than five years and eligible for the Hall of Fame,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: and all 12 are in the Hall of Fame. That's
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: how good Quentin Nelson is. And he's arriving here on
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: an expiring contract to the Seahawks. He's been a left
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: guard his entire career since he was picked sixth overall
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: by the Colts eight years ago. That's where I think
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: they're going to put him. And so Gray Zabel would
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: be on the move as he moved to right guard
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: where he played at North Dakota State. I think that's
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: the move. But Anthony Bradford would then go.
• 24:19
  Speaker 7: To the bench.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: But he's a good depth player. He just got back.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's a good guy to keep healthy.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Correct. Of course, he's in the final year of his deal, too,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: so he wants to play and make money for next season.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: How would you feel, conversation?
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: The old Kenneth Walker. How would you feel about a
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: job share? They won't even share this job. They won't
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: be rotating. So what to Anthony Bradford? Well, the trade
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: deadline is not until November 10th. Now John Schneider has
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: another piece to go recoup some of those draft picks,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: one or two of those draft picks he just gave up.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: If he wanted to try to trade Anthony Bradford, for instance,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: that could be their next move. Oh, man.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: Do you think that's why they put him on display?
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Well, they, yes. Well, yes, in a sense, they needed
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: him and he was back eligible and healthy too. But
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: this trade didn't just happen this morning. He's been on
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: the horn with the Colts about this for a while.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: And he's been talking to the agent about what it
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: would take to keep him beyond the season. So this
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: isn't just a rental. To me, after covering John Schneider
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: for 17 years, all 17 of his years as a
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Seahawks GM, that's how he operates. So that's what I
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: think they're doing there. What about running back? Well, 49451,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: by the way, the text line is all in favor
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: of this trade. They think this is another brilliant midseason
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: strike by John Schneider.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: I was going to ask you, you know, I see
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: no negatives. What would be the negative of this trade?
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: All I see is value.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Well, the negative would be if you don't resign and
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: then you just gave up two draft picks for a
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: player for three months.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: If for some reason the money doesn't work. But again,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: you make this trade after you've already talked to the
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: agent and perhaps the player, even though you're not technically
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: supposed to tamper with players on somebody else's contract. You
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: know what it'll take to resign. So you already have
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: an idea whether this– He's amenable to what you're offering.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: There's really good people upstairs that are better at math
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: than me that do that stuff.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: NFL math, for sure. So what about running back? Well,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Jadarian Price has missed the minimum four games you must
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: miss to come off the injured reserve list. He has
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: an upper rib injury John Schneider described on his radio
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: show a couple weeks ago. And the team keeps calling
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: it chest, but it's upper rib slash chest. Well, he's back,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: and he can be back this week. Mike McDonald said
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: yesterday on his radio, Coach's radio show the day after
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs game, that they expect Price to return to
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: practice this week. That would begin the 21-day practice window
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: you get to come back from injured reserve. Zach Charbonnet
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: had the same thing coming back from the physically unable
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: to perform list last week. Now, Charbonnet took all 21
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: days because he was coming off of reconstructive knee surgery
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: and has not played still since January. Not so with Price.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: And even him being at practice right now is a
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: little miraculous.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Eight and a half months removed from reconstructive knee surgery.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Different deal with Price. He's missed the last four weeks,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: but he did play the first three games, of course,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: fumbled in each of the last two, got benched at Washington.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Then he fell on the injury. He got injured in
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: week two initially. L.J. Collier, the former Seahawk, fell on
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: him as he was making a tackle on a swing
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: pass week two in Arizona. That's where Price originally hurt
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: these ribs. Then he was in a red no-contact jersey
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: the following week and played against the Chargers. Then he
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: got hurt when he fell on it in practice the
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: week following, and that's when he went on injured reserve
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: and he missed the last four games. So could Jadarian
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Price and Zach Charbonnet, who was on the active roster
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: but did not play against the Chiefs, could they both
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: play against the Bears? This is what Mike McDonald said
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: about that yesterday.
• 27:50
  Speaker 8: You mentioned that Jadarian Price will practice this week.
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: That's the expectation. Zach started practicing, it was multiple weeks,
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: he still hasn't played.
• 27:57
  Speaker 9: Do you think that that's going to be similar with Price,
• 27:59
  Speaker 9: or is there a chance he could play in this game?
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: This situation's a little different, obviously, for the length of
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: the injuries.
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: Could both play?
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: Could either play? Yes. Could either one play?
• 28:14
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: So it's kind of like the question I had earlier,
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: it's like, what works? Communication, just figuring it out, and
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: then going from there, so.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: What ultimately is the last benchmark, I guess, that you
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: need to see from Zach to know that he's ready
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: to play, we can do this?
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: I'm going to pass on that answer.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: I told you, he's getting very circumspect.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: He's getting just really good at it.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: It's almost like a sport. It's more of a sport
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: than it was for Pete Carroll, who took pleasure in
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: going round and round.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he used a lot more words than Mike
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: McDonald does.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Yes, he does. Yeah, I'm going to pass. That is
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: a completely fair answer.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: It's completely fair for him to say that, too.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: And Pete Carroll would basically say.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: That in a minute and a half answer. He would
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: say the same thing, but use a lot of words.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Again, the contradiction here is that the Seahawks are trying
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: to be conservative with Zach Charbonnet. And so he can
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: stay healthy and play for when he does come back
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: for the rest of the season. And Charbonnet wants to
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: be back yesterday because he's in the final year of
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: his contract as well. He's trying to audition for a
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: job next year from whether the Seahawks or anybody else
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: who wants to sign him. And now he has 10
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: of those opportunities left. He was inactive for the chiefs game,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: even though he was on the active roster, by the way,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: This is an aside, way aside, like way out on
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: the parking lot.
• 29:39
  Speaker 10: Okay.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: Let's go out.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Robert Henry Jr. Is he bad? How bad must he be?
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: I don't think we can know that because we have
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: not seen him.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: He's been on the active roster for three weeks and
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: been inactive on game days all three weeks.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: What?
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Why did you trade– I mean, excuse me, why did
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: you sign him from the commander's practice squad and not
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: play him? I mean, has he proven to not pick
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: up the playbook? He doesn't even have a fraction of
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: plays that they can give him. Here's your package for
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: the week. I mean, wow. Wow. I can't think Robert
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Henry Jr. is going to be on the roster much
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: longer if he can't even be on the active list
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: for games.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: We can only deduce from what we're not seeing.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: I asked about him a couple weeks, two weeks ago, and, oh,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: he's doing okay, McDonald said. And I said, is it
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: that he's not learning the playbook, but he really only
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: needs a handful of plays for the game plan? And
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: McDonald said, no, no, it's not that. He hasn't played yet.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: And Vellis Jones and Emmanuel Wilson and George Helani have played.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: My sense is Price is going to practice Thursday. They
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: return to the field Thursday. I think he's going to
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: practice Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Remember, they have a Monday night game.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: So they don't get back on the field until Thursday.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: I think he's going to be designated to return to
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: practice from IR on Thursday, practice Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Then
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: they will assess whether they think he's ready to go
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: for the game, of course, on Monday night. And my
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: hunch is he will, that he'll play after missing the
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: four weeks on injured reserve. Zach Charbonnet, you would think,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: is coming back, too. And they put him on the
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: active roster last week. He fully practiced in all three weeks.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: He was talking. It looked like he was going to
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: make his season debut against the Chiefs. He did not.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: If I had to hunch right now, I think Price
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: and Charbonnet are both coming back. And McDonald's not going
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: to tell the Bears that on Monday and Tuesday.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: No, he has not.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: So that's why they didn't say it. So the question
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: then becomes, if that's the case, does that change the
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: calculus for John Schneider going into the trade deadline? Perhaps
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: you don't go spending more draft capital on a running
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: back because you've got two of them coming right back.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Two lead backs are coming right back to your lineup. Price,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: the guy you drafted to replace Kenneth Walker, and the
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: guy who was in a job share last year with him,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Zach Charbonnet, who scored 12 rushing touchdowns. So that's where
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: the running back situation stands now. Emmanuel Wilson is the
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: one only holding the place for Jadarian Price and Zach
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Charbonnet to come back. That, to me, will diminish the
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: trade interest in John Schneider. He's still going to look.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: I don't see it being a Jonathan Taylor. I just don't.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Or a Saquon Barkley. Again, why would you give up
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: a second or first round pick it would take and
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: an $ 18 million a year contract that runs through 2028
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: on each of those guys?
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Trust the process, Greg. Trust the process.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald has a very specific way of doing things.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: And I don't think investing in, I mean, obviously, if
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: there was any offensive point that he would invest in,
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: it's offensive line and it's running back.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: And that's it. That's it.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: And anything else is going to be defense, but that
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: is the way he controls a game. And that's the way,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: you know, it's a microcosm. Each game is a microcosm
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: of the way he controls a team. That's my takeaway
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: from it.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Thank you, ma'am. Up next, what changed for Sam Donner
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: against the Chiefs? Well, there's some just raw numbers that
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: are striking as to what changed and why he was
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: a much more efficient passer. And the offense was humming
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: against the Chiefs, at least relatively humming compared to what
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: they were the previous weeks. We'll talk Sam Darnold next.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: You'll hear from the quarterback. 11 o'clock, Jory Epson is
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: going to join us from Philadelphia, where she was at
• 33:22
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• 33:34
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• 33:56
  Speaker 5: Welcome back.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Greg Bell and Justin McIntyre with you on 93.3 KJR
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: FM where the news of the day is the Seahawks
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: have made a trade this morning with the Indianapolis Colts
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: to acquire eight-time Pro Bowl, three-time All-Pro guard Quentin Nelson,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: 30 years old. He's in the final year of his contract.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: A third round and a fifth round pick going to
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts. Now the Seahawks have three starting guards.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: two positions. It is interesting to look at what Gray
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Zabel did at North Dakota State, and he has options
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: that they could move him to. He started 18 games
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: at left tackle his senior year at North Dakota State.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: He started before that 17 games at right tackle. He
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: started at left guard and at right guard. Of course,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: the Seahawks have had him at a left guard since
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: they drafted him in the first round last year. He's
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: been a day one starter at left guard since the
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: many camps and OTAs of the spring of 2025. And
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: at the senior bowl in the pre-daft process in 2025,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: he was a center and some teams scouted him as
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: a center. Could they move him to center and keep
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Anthony Bradford at right guard and have Quentin Nelson be
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: the left guard? Jalen Sundell, of course, is the current center.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: I think the move would be to move Zabel to
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: either to right guard, perhaps to center, but maybe left
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: tackle even, because Charles Cross is injured, has an ankle injury,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: sprained ankle of some kind. We don't know how long
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: he's going to be out. A report yesterday from Ian
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Rappaport of Benevolent Network saying Cross is going to miss
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: a game or two with a high ankle sprain. Mike
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: McDonald would not confirm that yesterday. So they've got choices
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: now with starters. I mean, that's different than backups. And
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: they've got starters, and they've got Quentin Nelson, who's on
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame trajectory. I just mentioned there aren't
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: many guys who make the Pro Bowl in each of
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: your first eight years in the NFL.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: Especially at offensive line.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: 16 of them have done it. There's only three of
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: them have done it at offensive line. Of the 16
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: who have made the Pro Bowl the first eight seasons,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: 12 of them are in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: So.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: That's how good Quentin Nelson has been so far with
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts. And now he's a Seattle Seahawks. So
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: that's the big news of the day. Sam Darnold is
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: probably interested in Quentin Nelson joining his offensive line. It
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: can only help him. What happened with Sam Darnold? What changed? Well,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: he still threw an interception at the end of the
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: first half against the Chiefs. That was his eighth interception
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: in five games. But good for him and the Seahawks.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: The bet came with seven seconds left in the first half.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Not enough time for the Chiefs to capitalize on it.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: They miss a 58-yard field goal, and the Seahawks took
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: a 10-0 lead into the half. They end up winning 20-3.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Donald forced that, but that was the only time that, one,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: he forced a pass into deep coverage, but he also
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: was really the only time he held onto the ball.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: In the first half, I mentioned yesterday, the first half
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: he threw 18 passes against the Chiefs in the first half,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: completed 13 of them, including the touchdown at Jackson's by
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: the dig in Jigba. His average time to throw in
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: the first half was 2.3 seconds, fastest of his career.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: And he's in his eighth NFL season. That was the
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: answer to what happened to him and the Seahawks in Denver.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: He got hit 17 times and sacked five times. He
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: had said going into the Denver game, he was seeking
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: to be more decisive. He started the game that way,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: four for four, throwing on quick back. As soon as
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: he hit his back foot, quick throws, two, three step drop, boom,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: balls out. And then he held onto the ball. Then
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: he ran away from pressure. Then, well, They designed against
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs a game plan of quick throwing. 2.3 seconds
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: in the first half, like I said, the quickest of
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: his career. And the other thing, Jessamyn, is in Denver
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: he threw 51 times. Dropped back 56. That's sack five.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: He only threw 28 passes. He only dropped back 28
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: times against the Chiefs. Now, it's because the Seahawks were
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: playing from the front. and they ran the ball. You know,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: their run numbers weren't that great through three quarters. It
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: was in the fourth quarter that Emmanuel Wilson in the
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: running game got going, and Wilson became a 100-yard rusher
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: with a 21-yard touchdown in the fourth quarter. But they
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: had balance and a defense that had to honor the run.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: The Chiefs couldn't just tee off like the Broncos and
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: the 49ers did on Darnold in the pass rush because
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: the Seahawks had a running game to honor. Now they
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: could be getting Jadarian Price back. Now they could be
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: getting Zach Charbonnet back, but it was quicker passes and
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: fewer of them. This was Sam Darnold after the game
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: on Sunday night. and a quote that I think is
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: going to become his mantra for the rest of the season.
• 38:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think for me, you know, learning from the
• 38:29
  Speaker 6: last few weeks and just putting the ball in play
• 38:32
  Speaker 6: and letting our great athletes go out there and try
• 38:34
  Speaker 6: to make guys miss and maybe run for a first
• 38:36
  Speaker 6: down or, you know, even if it's a third and nine,
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: like a, you know, like the one to coop that
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: we converted early in the game, like obviously that it's
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: third and nine or something like that, maybe even longer and,
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: you know, throw it to him for, you know, for
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: four or five yards and then he's able to go
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: get the rest. And I think just my mindset being
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: that way throughout the week really helped me in the game.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Just putting the ball in play. That's a baseball term, right?
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Just put the bat on the ball and put it
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: in play.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, we've been asking that with Mariners for
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: quite a while.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Right. But instead of taking a sack, instead of throwing
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: it to the other team, which doesn't put the ball
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: in play to your playmakers, put the ball in play.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: That's going to probably be Brian Fleury and Sam Darnold's
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: mantra for the rest of the season. Put the ball
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: in play, meaning getting it out quickly to your playmakers
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: and let them do their thing. Now, the better the
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: running game, gets, the more they can hold on to
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: the ball longer in play action and throw the ball
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: down the field. That's the chicken and egg here. They
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: got to run the ball well enough to be able
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: to throw the ball down the field and then Darnold
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: won't have to throw it so quickly and have bigger
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: plays down the field to do so. The run game,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: it starts there. And Jadarian Price coming back, Zach Charbonnet
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: making his season debut, can only help. Again, they've been
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: running with miscast dudes. Emmanuel Wilson was supposed to be
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: a third-down short yardage back, not the lead bell cow RB1.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: George Helani has been getting running back ones. He's a
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: special teams player.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: He's a depth guy.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Fellas Jones Jr. is on the team getting reps
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: the other night. He's a practice squad player. He had
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: a hamstring injury and left the game midway through. McDonald
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: didn't have anything new on that. But suffice to say,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: this is not the cast that they intended to roll
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: out in 2026, Jadarian Price being the most notable missing. Price,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: it appears, will come back to practice this week. That
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: will start his 21-day practice window. 49451, the Sam Donald
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: you saw against the Chiefs, did it restore your faith
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: in him? Because there were some people doubting him this
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: time last week after the interceptions and three losses in
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: four games. Are you now a Sam Darnold believer, or
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: are you still worried about the Seahawks quarterback situation?
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: I just like that I want him to continue to
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: protect the ball. I love that he said put the
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: ball in play, but my number one would be protect
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: the ball. Number two, yes, put it in play. But
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: I do understand what he was saying there. It's, you know,
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: take the three yards, don't go for the home run ball, right,
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: is what I took from that. And that's what you want.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: You know, get to third and manageable. Get to, you know,
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: second and five. Just, you know, you don't have to
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: hit a home run on every single throw. And that's
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: what I want from a quarterback.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: It would help if he didn't turn the ball over.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Eight interceptions in the last five games after meeting.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: It's not great.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: After leading the NFL in turnovers last season. Up next,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: let's go to Philadelphia. Our buddy Jory Epstein is there.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: She was at the Cowboys and Eagles last night. She'll
• 41:39
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• 41:42
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• 41:46
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• 42:09
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• 42:36
  Speaker 1: to the Indianapolis Colts to acquire three-time All-Pro guard Quinton Nelson,
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: eight-time Pro Bowler, 30 years old. He's on an expiring contract,
• 42:44
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• 42:46
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• 42:53
  Speaker 1: A massive upgrade, a massive deal to get a guy
• 42:57
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• 42:59
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• 43:03
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• 43:07
  Speaker 1: the Eagles with their backup quarterback last night. The Eagles'
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: backup quarterback, that is. Dallas 3-4. Giants lead that NFC
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: East at 4-2-1. We're going to talk to Jory Epstein
• 43:15
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• 43:18
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• 43:21
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• 43:24
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• 43:27
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• 43:30
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• 43:34
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• 43:38
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• 43:40
  Speaker 1: They host Toronto tomorrow night at Climate Pledge Arena. The
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Washington Huskies football team plays at Nebraska 5 p.m. Saturday.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Who's Jed Fish going to start a quarterback? I asked
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: that on the text line. It should be Elijah Brown.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Will Jed Fish pick Elijah Brown? Over the $ 4 million
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: they're giving in NIL money to DeMond Williams went out,
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: assuming DeMond Williams is healthy now from his injury that
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Sideline him in the Huskies win at Purdue. Washington State
• 44:06
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• 44:09
  Speaker 1: Ducks are going to be without quarterback Nante Moore for
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: the rest of the season with a concussion. He hasn't
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: played in a month. The Ducks are 4-3. And in
• 44:16
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• 44:20
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• 44:24
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• 44:27
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• 44:29
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• 44:33
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• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Here's Greg. Every day, every Tuesday at this time, we
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: go to Jory Epstein on the East Coast. She's somewhere
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: on the East Coast every week. This time she's in Philadelphia,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: senior NFL reporter and writer for Yahoo Sports. Joins us
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: from Philadelphia where she was in the building last night
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: to watch the Cowboys and the Eagles. Good afternoon, ma'am.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: Good afternoon, Greg.
• 45:18
  Speaker 10: Jessamyn in Seattle.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: How are you guys? We are great out here. Thank you.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: You're in one of my favorite cities in the country, Philadelphia.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Have you ever been to an Army-Navy game, Jory? I
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: have not. I need to add that to the list.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: I'm going to host you at an Army-Navy game. You
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: could go this year because it's in New York. It's
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: in the Meadowlands this year. So Jessamyn and I are
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: going to be there on December the 10th, 11th, and 12th.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: If you don't want to go to that one or
• 45:41
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• 45:43
  Speaker 1: Philadelphia because that's the best one. But you're in Philadelphia.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: You were with the Cowboys and Eagles last night. Cowboys
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: used to be the team you covered intensely. Where did
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: Brian Schottenheimer get this running game, and why didn't he
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: do it earlier, or is it because it was the
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: Eagles who are now lost five in a row? Where
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: did this whole offense, and it looks like it revived Dallas'
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: season last night. Where'd that come from?
• 46:07
  Speaker 11: Yeah, it's interesting because on one hand— The Cowboys had
• 46:12
  Speaker 11: over 200 rushing yards and over 200 passing yards. So
• 46:15
  Speaker 11: people were asking like, oh, Dak, do you think this
• 46:16
  Speaker 11: is the most complete game you guys have had offensively?
• 46:19
  Speaker 11: And he goes, yeah, the numbers would say so, but
• 46:21
  Speaker 11: it's one game we got to build on this. I
• 46:24
  Speaker 11: think that the Cowboys know, and I talked to Dak
• 46:26
  Speaker 11: about this, that they got away from the run game
• 46:28
  Speaker 11: too much in their prior two games, both of which
• 46:31
  Speaker 11: were primetime losses first to the Buccaneers against undrafted.
• 46:35
  Speaker 10: Rookie free agent quarterback.
• 46:37
  Speaker 11: Jalen Daniels, and then up in Wisconsin at Lambeau against
• 46:42
  Speaker 11: the Packers. And part of that is a matter of
• 46:45
  Speaker 11: when you get down and the Cowboys were not scoring
• 46:47
  Speaker 11: in their first three quarters, you tend to go a
• 46:49
  Speaker 11: little more pass heavy. But I think Dak and Brian
• 46:52
  Speaker 11: Schottenheimer had this conversation of like, we have to be
• 46:54
  Speaker 11: stubbornly committed to the run game, even if it's not
• 46:56
  Speaker 11: super effective early in the game. Now, last night they
• 46:58
  Speaker 11: didn't get down, so it's easier to follow through with that.
• 47:01
  Speaker 11: But there is an element of you have your shiny
• 47:04
  Speaker 11: toys and guys like cd lamb and george pickens at
• 47:06
  Speaker 11: receiver but in order to make sure they're not getting
• 47:09
  Speaker 11: double triple covered on every single play all these cloud
• 47:11
  Speaker 11: and bracket coverages you really have to make sure the
• 47:13
  Speaker 11: run game scoring so the cowboys went into this game
• 47:16
  Speaker 11: saying we are going to run the ball and even
• 47:17
  Speaker 11: on their first touchdown drive despite it being a pass
• 47:20
  Speaker 11: to cd land they had six runs along the way
• 47:23
  Speaker 11: so i mean i was not concerned about giovante williams
• 47:26
  Speaker 11: ever i mean he's it's funny someone was asking me
• 47:28
  Speaker 11: should the cowboys trade for a running back at the
• 47:30
  Speaker 11: deadline like this is last week and i'm like Javante
• 47:32
  Speaker 11: Williams was more productive than Saquon Barkley last year. I'm
• 47:35
  Speaker 11: not saying that he's got the higher ceiling in his career,
• 47:38
  Speaker 11: but he works really well.
• 47:38
  Speaker 10: For this group.
• 47:39
  Speaker 11: They also have their offensive line back to full health,
• 47:41
  Speaker 11: although it's been fairly healthy, and they're a good run
• 47:44
  Speaker 11: blocking unit. So I think that this is an intentional
• 47:47
  Speaker 11: commitment and one that they're able to do. The question is,
• 47:50
  Speaker 11: Can you do it against a team that isn't missing
• 47:52
  Speaker 11: half of their offensive starters? Because it gets harder when
• 47:54
  Speaker 11: you actually have to keep up knowing that your defense
• 47:57
  Speaker 11: probably isn't getting off the field very quickly.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. The Eagles are just a shell of themselves.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Brian Schottenheimer, I mean, it looked like Marty Schottenheimer ball yesterday,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: his old Chiefs and Browns team. Well, how does he
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: strike Brian Schottenheimer? How does he strike you as a
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: head coach? We know him out here in Seattle. I
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: covered him every day for a couple of years as
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: the Seahawks offensive coordinator for Pete Carroll. And man, was
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: he great to deal with. Very insightful. Told us a
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: lot of things. was glib, had a great sense of humor.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: How is he with the Cowboys players as a first-time
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: head coach? Have you noticed, have you heard, and the
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: impact that Schottenheimer has had as a head man?
• 48:32
  Speaker 11: Yeah, it's very good timing that you're asking this question, Greg,
• 48:34
  Speaker 11: because I'll answer in two parts, about the players and
• 48:37
  Speaker 11: about the reporters. He's a very player-friendly coach, and I
• 48:41
  Speaker 11: don't just mean that in terms of looking out for
• 48:43
  Speaker 11: the player body. I mean, he is so concerned with
• 48:45
  Speaker 11: their mental and emotional well-being and really thinks about the
• 48:49
  Speaker 11: culture and what they're going to be able to be
• 48:52
  Speaker 11: as men and how they're going to support each other.
• 48:53
  Speaker 11: And obviously he was tried very tragically and intensely last
• 48:57
  Speaker 11: year as a leader when they had a player die
• 49:00
  Speaker 11: by suicide.
• 49:00
  Speaker 10: In Marshawn Nealon last season.
• 49:03
  Speaker 11: So now you get to his second season, it's more football,
• 49:05
  Speaker 11: their expectations are higher. And I think there's still some
• 49:09
  Speaker 11: of that, but look, he's still the play caller and
• 49:11
  Speaker 11: it wasn't going so well. So historically, both as offensive
• 49:15
  Speaker 11: coordinator and as head coach, Brian Schottenheimer has been extremely thoughtful.
• 49:20
  Speaker 11: extremely personal in the media, really explaining things to us
• 49:23
  Speaker 11: and fairly honest. What was interesting, and I was not
• 49:27
  Speaker 11: at his post-game press conference last night, I was in
• 49:29
  Speaker 11: the locker room at the time talking to players because
• 49:31
  Speaker 11: they happen at the same time, but he gave his
• 49:33
  Speaker 11: shortest and terse post-game press conference he had given since
• 49:37
  Speaker 11: he became head coach. And some of the reporters are
• 49:39
  Speaker 11: wondering about it. And Dak told us, he's like, look,
• 49:42
  Speaker 11: he's not naive. Like he did come in this game
• 49:44
  Speaker 11: hungry and pissed off. He knows what people are saying
• 49:46
  Speaker 11: about his play calling in recent weeks. He knows what
• 49:48
  Speaker 11: people are saying, questioning him. And I think there's kind
• 49:51
  Speaker 11: of this element of, so the same people that are
• 49:54
  Speaker 11: questioning me, publicly and explaining all the things I can't
• 49:57
  Speaker 11: do now want me to give them all this information.
• 49:59
  Speaker 10: And I'm not saying that's not how the job works.
• 50:01
  Speaker 10: It is how the job works.
• 50:02
  Speaker 11: But I think there's kind of an element of like, hey, no,
• 50:05
  Speaker 11: I heard what you said. And maybe I used it
• 50:08
  Speaker 11: to motivate me, but I still heard it. And I'm
• 50:10
  Speaker 11: not feeling quite as warm and fuzzy today. So that
• 50:14
  Speaker 11: was my take on his shorter press conference. It'll be
• 50:17
  Speaker 11: interesting to see how that evolves over time week to week.
• 50:19
  Speaker 11: But I think that because Brian Schoenheimer is so people-oriented,
• 50:24
  Speaker 11: he also hears.
• 50:25
  Speaker 10: It and feels it when people say stuff.
• 50:26
  Speaker 11: And the last thing I'll say about that is I
• 50:28
  Speaker 11: had a conversation with Zach before he boarded the bus
• 50:30
  Speaker 11: about that because Zach has always been pretty.
• 50:32
  Speaker 10: Big of like, I don't want to hear it.
• 50:34
  Speaker 11: I'm not saying he doesn't hear anything, but he doesn't
• 50:36
  Speaker 11: I mean, he's dealt with so many off the field
• 50:38
  Speaker 11: things in his life that the on the field criticism
• 50:41
  Speaker 11: primarily doesn't get to him that much. But the reality
• 50:45
  Speaker 11: is it doesn't mean it doesn't get to his coaches
• 50:46
  Speaker 11: and to his teammates. And so he was like, look,
• 50:49
  Speaker 11: I know that some guys listen to it. I don't
• 50:51
  Speaker 11: want to listen to it much, but I also have
• 50:52
  Speaker 11: to be aware. And he said, it doesn't bother me
• 50:54
  Speaker 11: that people say things, but it bothers me seeing how
• 50:58
  Speaker 11: much it can upset and hurt some of my teammates
• 51:01
  Speaker 11: and coaches. And so I think that's always a dynamic
• 51:03
  Speaker 11: that these teams are dealing with, particularly when you're in
• 51:06
  Speaker 11: a market as, brightest spotlight as the Cowboys.
• 51:09
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• 51:34
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• 51:35
  Speaker 1: That's Zeke's Pizza and Zeke'sPizza.com. The Eagles, I'm going to
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: ask you about Jalen Hurts and the situation there in
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: a minute. But in the NFC East, 4-2-1, the Giants
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: are in first place. 2-5 and a free-falling five losses
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: in a row for the Eagles. Are they now in
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: sell mode? Are they going to trade Saquon Barkley? It's
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: tough to trade a guy who's hurt. He was hurt
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: and limited last night. Where do you see the Eagles
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: and Howie Roseman doing? Or do you think they're going
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: to hold pat and wait for the Giants and the
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: rest of the division to stay back down with them?
• 52:06
  Speaker 11: I don't think the Eagles are going to hold Pat.
• 52:07
  Speaker 11: What I think is notable is that Howie Roseman, in
• 52:10
  Speaker 11: part because of the relative security he has, has pretty
• 52:15
  Speaker 11: much always been a guy who will listen to offers.
• 52:18
  Speaker 11: It's kind of the Eagles philosophy in his tenure, which
• 52:21
  Speaker 11: dates back quite a while now, is let's hear what
• 52:24
  Speaker 11: the offer is. And if it's good, we might take
• 52:26
  Speaker 11: even if it doesn't seem like it aligns with our
• 52:27
  Speaker 11: team building cycle. And because we're constantly reloading and we're
• 52:30
  Speaker 11: aggressive making moves, We're going to have to be aggressive
• 52:33
  Speaker 11: in some places in terms of getting back capital to
• 52:35
  Speaker 11: replace the guys or to offset the salaries that we're
• 52:39
  Speaker 11: taking on. So, I mean, I think we saw that
• 52:41
  Speaker 11: earlier this season when they traded offensive lineman Cam Jorgens
• 52:44
  Speaker 11: to the Ravens. And that was before they had all
• 52:46
  Speaker 11: of these injuries and their season was in free fall.
• 52:48
  Speaker 11: But they realized, look, this guy's playing well, but not
• 52:50
  Speaker 11: as well for us. He hasn't fully stayed healthy. And
• 52:53
  Speaker 11: we have young guys who might not be where he's
• 52:55
  Speaker 11: at now, but we think can get there and are cheaper.
• 52:57
  Speaker 10: Let's make the move.
• 52:58
  Speaker 11: So I think Saquon's a really interesting one because I
• 53:02
  Speaker 11: do believe that my opinion, not necessarily what they're saying,
• 53:06
  Speaker 11: but my opinion is that based off their historical philosophies,
• 53:11
  Speaker 11: they would be open to trading him. The question is,
• 53:13
  Speaker 11: at what value? You're not just giving Saquon away talent
• 53:16
  Speaker 11: like that. And we saw even at the beginning of
• 53:18
  Speaker 11: the game last night, even with his injury, that he
• 53:20
  Speaker 11: was still really explosive and burning the Cowboys in the
• 53:23
  Speaker 11: pass game and the run game and basically anything. end
• 53:25
  Speaker 11: zone untouched on certain plays and so I think that
• 53:29
  Speaker 11: he has value I think when we see what the
• 53:31
  Speaker 11: Niners did acquiring Christian McCaffrey I'll be at a younger
• 53:34
  Speaker 11: age I believe A few years back, there is this
• 53:37
  Speaker 11: idea that some coaches say, hey, if I get him
• 53:38
  Speaker 11: in my system and my players and my personnel grouping,
• 53:43
  Speaker 11: I'm going to be able to elevate him. And Saquon
• 53:45
  Speaker 11: still has that explosiveness. But not only has he been
• 53:47
  Speaker 11: battling a hamstring injury, but last night he came back
• 53:50
  Speaker 11: a little bit early and then got a back injury compensating.
• 53:52
  Speaker 11: And so you have to think that that impacts his value,
• 53:55
  Speaker 11: particularly for a team that's trying to trade for him
• 53:58
  Speaker 11: to make a run this year. I also think on
• 54:00
  Speaker 11: the defensive line, there will probably be some guys. I mean,
• 54:02
  Speaker 11: some of these guys were on expiring contracts, like Philly's going.
• 54:05
  Speaker 10: To want to get some return back.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Right, instead of them just leaving for maybe a comp
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: pick and nothing else. Jory, you've been in Philadelphia a
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: couple days. Jalen Hurts in a situation that got him
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: from a superficial blood clot in his legs to in
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: his lungs and now out for the season. The NFL
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: Players Association have announced that they are now going to
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: have an investigation jointly with the league after the league.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: And Alan Sills, who you were at the league meetings
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: in Manhattan with last week, saying, ah, everything was fine.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: They followed the protocol. Everything's up. What do you know
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: about this union push to dig deeper here? What's the
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: league doing about this? And, I mean, it sure looks
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: like the Eagles mismanaged this. Are there going to be
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: any punishments, or what do you think becomes of this?
• 54:46
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I think that we should go back a season
• 54:48
  Speaker 11: to have a little bit of context here, which is
• 54:50
  Speaker 11: that I believed, and I still believe, that the NFLPA
• 54:54
  Speaker 11: should have investigated the Pittsburgh Steelers for the lung puncturing
• 54:58
  Speaker 11: of TJ Watt.
• 54:59
  Speaker 10: I am absolutely not suggesting that it was malicious.
• 55:02
  Speaker 11: And this is for those who aren't remembering it. It
• 55:04
  Speaker 11: was during dry needling session at the facility. They accidentally
• 55:08
  Speaker 11: got his lung. It deflated and he was out a
• 55:10
  Speaker 11: few weeks. But still very scary because this isn't your ACL.
• 55:14
  Speaker 10: This is your lung.
• 55:15
  Speaker 11: And so I am still shocked that there wasn't an
• 55:18
  Speaker 11: investigation there. There is an element of if a player
• 55:20
  Speaker 11: doesn't want to file a grievance. The union has some
• 55:23
  Speaker 11: limitations in terms of the actions they could take on
• 55:26
  Speaker 11: that front. But I believe that you have to protect
• 55:28
  Speaker 11: future players from experiencing what a current player is experiencing.
• 55:32
  Speaker 11: And so I would have been very disappointed if, like
• 55:36
  Speaker 11: the TJ situation, there was not an investigation here. investigation
• 55:39
  Speaker 11: doesn't necessarily mean get someone in trouble. Like with the
• 55:42
  Speaker 11: teacher thing, again, I don't even care who did it.
• 55:43
  Speaker 11: I just want to know what protocols are in place
• 55:46
  Speaker 11: for that one because dry needling is different.
• 55:48
  Speaker 10: From state to state.
• 55:49
  Speaker 11: And I know I'm getting off on a tangent, but
• 55:50
  Speaker 11: it'll relate back that you have to make sure that
• 55:53
  Speaker 11: your protocols are such that you're giving players the best
• 55:56
  Speaker 11: chance for health and safety.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: That's my goal.
• 55:59
  Speaker 10: So then you think about this with the Jalen Hurts information.
• 56:03
  Speaker 10: And I do think he got.
• 56:06
  Speaker 11: what would be considered top standard imaging England, despite the
• 56:10
  Speaker 11: fact that they were hours away from the London city
• 56:12
  Speaker 11: center is my understanding of where they were at the hotel.
• 56:15
  Speaker 11: He got imaging at the Cleveland Clinic location in London
• 56:18
  Speaker 11: that suggested he had a superficial blood clot. A superficial
• 56:21
  Speaker 11: blood clot could be as simple as, hey, if you
• 56:23
  Speaker 11: get an IV and you have a little bit of
• 56:25
  Speaker 11: a vein going up there, that's a superficial blood clot.
• 56:27
  Speaker 11: It is true that playing football with a superficial blood
• 56:30
  Speaker 11: clot is not typically a big danger. What is more
• 56:33
  Speaker 11: damning to me is the fact that he got on
• 56:35
  Speaker 11: a plane afterwards for seven plus hours. That to me
• 56:38
  Speaker 11: is where I would say Did you require him to
• 56:40
  Speaker 11: get up and walk every hour? Because when you have
• 56:43
  Speaker 11: the immobility and the stasis in your blood, that's when
• 56:46
  Speaker 11: these clots can increase and spread. Did you image him
• 56:50
  Speaker 11: after the game to see whether he should be flying
• 56:52
  Speaker 11: back or consider holding him back a day? Those to
• 56:54
  Speaker 11: me are actually bigger questions than the fact that he
• 56:56
  Speaker 11: played in the initial game in London based off what
• 56:59
  Speaker 11: they saw at the time. There are some questions I
• 57:01
  Speaker 11: have on the imaging and whether there was also deep
• 57:05
  Speaker 11: vein thrombosis at the same time that there was superficial
• 57:07
  Speaker 11: because of how quickly it spread from superficial in the
• 57:10
  Speaker 11: calf to deep in the calf to the lungs. Doctors
• 57:13
  Speaker 11: tell me that that timeline changes. of where it ended
• 57:15
  Speaker 11: relative to where it allegedly started is pretty unusual. As
• 57:19
  Speaker 11: it relates to the NFL and how they handled it,
• 57:22
  Speaker 11: I don't know why, and Mike Silver did a good
• 57:24
  Speaker 11: comment about this for The Athletic, I don't know why
• 57:26
  Speaker 11: the NFL came out there and said, every one of
• 57:29
  Speaker 11: our doctors are always following what's best for the player,
• 57:32
  Speaker 11: never listening to football people, and we give them the
• 57:35
  Speaker 11: best standards and we're sure this went well.
• 57:37
  Speaker 10: Let's have a little humility here.
• 57:38
  Speaker 11: I know humility isn't really synonymous with the NFL, but
• 57:41
  Speaker 11: I think that Mike made some good points about it. Hey,
• 57:44
  Speaker 11: maybe we should be more grateful that he seems like
• 57:46
  Speaker 11: he's going to be okay than pumping our chest about this.
• 57:50
  Speaker 11: I also think that, yes, doctors have an oath to
• 57:53
  Speaker 11: protect their patients first. Do any of us really believe
• 57:56
  Speaker 11: that there's any industry in which no one is ever
• 57:58
  Speaker 11: swayed by the business interests and the people who are
• 58:00
  Speaker 11: employing them? I'm not saying that the Eagles said, hey, doctors,
• 58:03
  Speaker 11: you gotta get Jalen out there. And it's true that
• 58:05
  Speaker 11: Jalen had a choice in whether he went out there too.
• 58:09
  Speaker 11: But I think that we need to have a better
• 58:10
  Speaker 11: understanding of this process and and a better understanding specifically
• 58:14
  Speaker 11: of if this happens again and there's a flight coming,
• 58:17
  Speaker 11: what is the threshold of imaging we need to see
• 58:20
  Speaker 11: for a player to safely get back on the field?
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's talk now that, I mean, you can't have
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: a protocol for every single injury, but there is talk
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: now of a league protocol for somewhat like concussion protocol.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: They're going to be a blood clot protocol to make
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: sure that they don't have, again, it's reactionary and you
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: can't do it for every injury. But to your point, Jory,
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: the team doctors are employed by the teams. That's the
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: bottom line.
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: They, they have both and they should be taking care
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: of the patient, but their checks come from the team
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: and there's, that's an age old problem.
• 58:53
  Speaker 11: And to your point, Greg, I think that one of
• 58:55
  Speaker 11: the great points that has been made is if the
• 58:57
  Speaker 11: team doctors are so unbiased and Why does league protocol
• 59:01
  Speaker 11: for concussions now require an unaffiliated neurological consultant Right.
• 59:06
  Speaker 10: The reality is we do have.
• 59:09
  Speaker 11: I mean, when they're when Alan Sills, the chief medical officer,
• 59:11
  Speaker 11: was up there last week saying that the players get
• 59:14
  Speaker 11: a say in this and this is shared decision making,
• 59:16
  Speaker 11: which is true. And doctors I talked to. independently from
• 59:19
  Speaker 11: my reporting on Jalen said that that.
• 59:21
  Speaker 10: Is part of a process.
• 59:22
  Speaker 11: I said, okay, but in the concussion protocol, we don't
• 59:25
  Speaker 11: have shared decision-making. And I get that you can say
• 59:27
  Speaker 11: that maybe their ability to make a decision in that
• 59:29
  Speaker 11: state is impaired, but I think that let's not pretend
• 59:32
  Speaker 11: we haven't already changed these alleged rules for other medical
• 59:36
  Speaker 11: conditions when we say that we can't change them here.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: Well done, ma'am. You are exactly, I agree absolutely with
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: what your Jalen Hurts point of view on that one.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: Brian Flores, if you could say a reason why six
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: and oh, the Vikings are six and oh, is Brian Flores.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, their offense, the Vikings offense, they got Kyler
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: Murray's not exactly ripping it up at quarterback. Could you
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: see Brian Flores as the reason like he should be
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: coach of the year, the way they're going right now? No,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator. Yeah.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 11: I don't know how he wouldn't be assistant coach of
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 11: the year at the moment. I definitely think that, I mean,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 11: he should be in that conversation pretty much every year
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 11: based off what he's done in recent years.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 10: Uh, Clearly, it's their defense. Their offense is struggling.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 11: I mean, offensively, they're 23rd in points scored and 29th
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 11: in yardage. And defensively, they're first in points allowed and
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 11: second in yards allowed. So when you see numbers that
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 11: this isn't like 15 and 20, we are top of
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 11: the pack and near bottom of the pack. relative to
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 11: the defense and the offense. What I would say is
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 11: that it was always going to be some level of
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 11: adjustment getting Kyler Murray and Kevin O'Connell.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 10: On the same page. And that's not an indictment on
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 10: either guy. I'm a big believer that when you have a.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 11: New coach, a new scheme, a new player, and you're
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 11: kind of putting these pieces together, it requires some trial
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 11: and error. And that doesn't happen in preseason in today's NFL,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 11: particularly with older or injury history players. The hope, and
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 11: we see this with teams like the Niners too, is
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 11: that you can be winning while you're figuring it out.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 11: And it's a lot easier to figure those things out
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 11: when you have a four or five game cushion in
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 11: your division, or at least in the playoff running, I
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 11: should say. Now we do have to look at the
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 11: Vikings schedule a little bit and provide some context because
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  Speaker 11: the same way that the Raiders started out with three
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  Speaker 11: wins and then dropped, it was somewhat schedule dependent, if
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  Speaker 11: not entirely. Yes, the Vikings have had some good wins,
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  Speaker 11: but they also most recently played the Buccaneers, the Dolphins,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 11: the Saints, and the Colts. Those were their last four opponents.
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  Speaker 11: I don't think any of those teams are likely to
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  Speaker 11: make the playoffs. Now, their next opponents are the Lions,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 11: the Bills, the Packers, and the Niners, all of whom
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  Speaker 11: could make the playoffs.
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  Speaker 10: I guess the Lions will see. So I think that.
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  Speaker 11: Some of this is going to be a little bit
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  Speaker 11: opponent dependent, and I don't expect the Vikings to get
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  Speaker 11: out of this season without a.
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  Speaker 10: Loss, even if they're the only ones without a loss
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  Speaker 10: right now. The Chargers are the only ones without a win.
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  Speaker 11: I think some of this will even out, but I
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  Speaker 11: do think that they put themselves in position to absolutely
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 11: be in great shape for the division, if not for
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 11: the NFC. And then the question is, by ideally November, December, January,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 11: can Kyler Murray and the offense figure this thing out?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Vikings at Detroit, probably the best game of the weekend,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: even though we're getting Eagles commanders as the Sunday night game.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: Flex that for whatever reason. Jory, you're in Philadelphia now.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure you'll go home and see your husband here
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  Speaker 1: soon back to Manhattan. Where are you going to be
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: this week? What are you watching in week eight or
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: whatever week this is for the NFL?
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 10: I keep losing track.
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  Speaker 11: I will be home this week watching, but I'm very
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 11: intrigued by the Ravens-Bills. I think a few weeks ago
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 11: we probably thought that was going to.
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  Speaker 10: Be more of a game of heavyweights, and now.
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  Speaker 11: statistically or record wise, I should say it still is,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 11: but the Ravens have some questions and I think go
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 11: beyond Lamar and also some questions with Lamar about him
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 11: not being back yet. So I will be eager to
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 11: see what they can do. I think the bills have
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 11: kind of not got almost gotten out of our focus
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 11: because of the vibe, but there's still one of the
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 11: scariest teams in the NFL. Like you said, the Vikings
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 11: and lions and particularly the Vikings defense are versus the
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 11: Lions offense. Chargers-Rams underratedly really interest me because, I mean,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 11: these are two LA teams, and if the Chargers can
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 11: figure out how to get it this time, I don't
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 11: think they will. But if they can, I mean, that
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 11: battle of LA means quite a bit to a lot
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 11: of people down there. And of course, Chiefs-Broncos will never
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 11: be a bad game. And if you're the Chiefs and
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 11: you're trying to get right offensively, you don't really want
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 11: to face the Broncos defense.
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  Speaker 1: Jory, thank you for taking time out in Philadelphia. We
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: have actually Greg McClure, who's one of these partners of
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: Zeke's Pizza, who's in here listening to you right now,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: talking on the air.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 10: There you go.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for coming in, Greg. Greg, do you have pizza
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: that can go to New York City and get to
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: Manhattan by tomorrow?
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 7: I don't know about that, but she'll have to come
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 7: out here.
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  Speaker 5: We'll gladly supply some pizza.
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  Speaker 11: Well, we appreciate your support, Greg, and we appreciate Zeke's
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 11: Pizza here.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks, Jory. We'll talk to you next Tuesday.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 10: Talk to you soon, Greg.
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  Speaker 2: Bye.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks to Zeke's Pizza, zekespizza.com for Jory Epstein, our weekly
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: visit going around the NFL. She's really, she nailed the
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts thing. I mean, they, they need to have
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: a protocol, make sure this doesn't happen again for sure.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: But yeah, thanks. Ian Furness brought in.
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  Speaker 5: Well, Greg brought it in.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Greg and I are in a fantasy football league together.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 9: The oldest fantasy. I'm not going to get into this.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 9: It's been a struggle for him. Um, The oldest fantasy
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 9: football league we think in Seattle. 50 years.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: Whoa.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: 50?
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: You're not even 50.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah. I wish.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: Wait, is that like the cash one you guys started?
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 5: It's a big.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: Like the whiteboard one?
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 9: Well, it wasn't a whiteboard. We just this year graduated
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 9: to doing it online.
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  Speaker 12: Greg, you're not even 50. You look like you're 40.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 12: I turned 50 last week. Now I'm as old as...
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 12: Happy birthday! Dick Rockne, long time Seattle Times. It was
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 12: formed by a bunch of old writers and media guys
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 12: and SIDs at UW and so forth, and Joe Withey
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 12: from Emerald Downs, and then some of us have kind
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 12: of been morphed into it over the years. And so
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 12: I've met, I've known Greg for years and, uh, we
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 12: were talking and we got to get Zeke's back involved
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 12: and they're kind enough to. sponsor jory and uh and
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 12: also steve palazzolo every week for our show so nfl
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 12: lots of nfl talk and he brought lunch greg oh
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 12: he's got lunch for you guys he's got lunch jess
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 12: we got lunch here today so tell us tell us
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 12: about the new pizza that's spicy one.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 7: All right so we've got uh calabrian chili pizzas going
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 7: for our um our seasonal during football season we did
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 7: it a couple years ago if you've uh calabrian chilies
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 7: might not be something everybody's familiar with but um It's
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 7: got some real heat. A lot of times places will
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 7: say something's hot, and it's not. But it's super unique.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 7: It's unlike any other spice. You've got to check them out.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 7: We've got six Calabrian pizzas going all through football season.
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  Speaker 7: get $ 10 off or come to one of our stores
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  Speaker 7: and get a $ 6 pint.
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  Speaker 5: That's good for cracking games too. Oh, there you go.
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  Speaker 7: We've got a location right by– Climate pledge. So, yeah, anyways,
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  Speaker 7: give them a try if you like heat. And if
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 7: you don't, we've got something else for you. Did you
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 7: bring some of those today? I sure did.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go.
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  Speaker 5: Take a break, Greg.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: Take a break. This may be a 15-minute break. We'll
• 1:06:20
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• 1:06:23
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  Speaker 2: Holy F.
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  Speaker 1: This, another John Schneider trade.
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  Speaker 2: Just knocking it.
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  Speaker 5: Out of the park, man.
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  Speaker 9: Oh, I love.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 5: You so much, John Schneider.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: It's so awesome that you're our GM. Like, suck it, Packers.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 5: Hey, man, once again, we're in it to win it.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: Go Hawks!
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  Speaker 8: Regarding the UW, um, me you double um my kids
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 8: go there big supporter and what i'd say is i
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 8: don't mind a quarterback room costing us like six million
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 8: dollars under the new world of nil what i don't
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 8: want to pay for is a coach that would make
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 8: the wrong decision about winning a football.
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  Speaker 2: Game okay there's one more i have to play just
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: to um just to self-own.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 5: Here Jessamine is pretty. Jessamine is pretty.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 7: Jessamine is pretty.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: What was that?
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know who that was, but I said, don't
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: call me pretty. And that was, I had to play
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: it just because I have to self-own.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: What do you mean self-own?
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: Because I was so mortified by that. It's pushing on
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: a bruise, Greg. It's pushing on a bruise. Okay, here's
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: another one.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: Greg, that's not a Pete Carroll-ism. That's a Chuck Knox-ism
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: by Mike McDonald.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 5: Got a knee.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: Got a guy. Got an ankle. Could be out.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 5: You got to remember that.
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  Speaker 1: I do. I do.
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  Speaker 3: Is that?
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: Yes, it is.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: Was that guy in a tractor? In a helicopter?
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: It sounded like he was on a hayride. Or a helicopter.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: That's true.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's Chuck Knox.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: Background noise.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I did not know that because I didn't live
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: through the Chuck Knox era.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Chuck Knox. He's evolved. Mike McDonald has. He was
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: a lot less circumspect and big than he is now
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: about injuries. Like I said, next is going to be
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: a lower body injury. That's coming up next.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, they're doing that in college football now. I'm like,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: I just saw the guy's bones.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: Sticking out of his ankle.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: Yep. Not going to return. He's out with a lower
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: body injury. I'm like, he got guarded off the field.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure I'm aware of that. But it's all
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: kind of, I think everything just is tamped down. In hockey,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: and Ian has brought this up in the past, in
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: hockey it makes more sense because people target that specific
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: body part. Right.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: Where they can be vague, and I guess in football.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: But also bettors. Bettors are more, and they want every detail,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: and bettors are more ingrained in the football, and the
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: football injury reports exist for the bettors. I mean, that's
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  Speaker 1: That's the NFL music because that's where Justin McIntyre does
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  Speaker 1: her picks. She's a 500 hitter, which in the major
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: leagues would make you like.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: I would be in the Hall of Fame for so.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: For like so many years. Like, yeah, I'd have all
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  Speaker 3: the accolades.
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  Speaker 1: You're doing fine. I'm doing great.
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  Speaker 2: 500 works. I'm doing great. I've always wore a size medium.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: I've always been medium at everything.
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  Speaker 1: Medium.
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  Speaker 3: Now my job is pretty. I'm pretty good at that.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: 360 says Jess is hot.
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what face that is.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: They're just trying to embarrass me by saying that.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: They like the Maddie Beneers jersey you're wearing.
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  Speaker 3: On Kraken Ticket Tuesday.
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  Speaker 2: It is a phenomenal jersey. And thank you, Kraken, because
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  Speaker 2: this is just such a great design. I'm so excited
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  Speaker 2: when I get to wear it because I'm like, I
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: don't have to plan an outfit. Because it doesn't matter
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: what else I wear with it. The jersey speaks.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: Are you going to the Jets again? The Jets just
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: crushed you last week.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: I think that I'm going to stay away because I
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: did not help them with that. And I'm one of
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: those people that actually thinks about superstitions, if you will.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: I left a stadium because I went outside during halftime
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: during one of my dad's games and went to get
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: a soda and a snack when I was in eighth grade.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: And I was late getting back in and they scored.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: And then I came, when I got back in, they threw,
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: or the other team scored, and I left again and
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: I think intercepted the ball for, and it wasn't a pick.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: Six, whatever. That's why I'm superstitious.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: All right, what's your pick? People are waiting. I do
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  Speaker 1: not know why I.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: Went down that rabbit hole.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: People are waiting.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: So this is one of those spreads that I saw
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: that was a little too big for me to resist.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: So I'm going with the Titans plus 10 at the Bengals.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: Titans plus 10.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: Titans plus 10. Now they're going to lose.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: Titans stink.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they do.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: From a record perspective, they absolutely do. However, look at
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: their game spreads. If you go and look at the
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: games that they've played, there's only been two two-score differentials.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: And I don't think they're going to be that bad
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: against the Bengals this week.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: Titans plus 10, getting 10 points, meaning Jessamyn thinks they're
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: going to lose by 9 or fewer points at Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 1: If you agree, text FACT to 49451. If you disagree,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, look at this. This makes a lot of sense.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: They lost to the Colts in the Colts' territory by
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: 6 points. They got throbbed by the Texans. That was
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: a bad one. But then you look at their Ravens' score.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: Technically, that... It is a one-score game.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: It was eight points, but that's technically a one-score game
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: if you get the two-point conversion.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: The Giants at Giants. That was a five-point game. Then Eagles, 24-20.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: And then you go to the beginning of the season,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: and my stupid Jets beat them by 13 points. I
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: just think that they're going to lose, but not by
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: that margin. Anyway, but you could completely think I'm an
• 1:13:48
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• 1:13:52
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  Speaker 1: Titans plus 10 at the Bengals. If you agree, text
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  Speaker 1: to win $ 1, 000, text fiction to 49451. That's how it
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  Speaker 1: on being facts. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: See, that's why I can be an idiot every once
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: in a while.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: I like this.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: So it's just too, too wide of a margin. I
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: think it'll be, you know, like seven, eight points.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: The Seahawks in the last few minutes have confirmed their
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: trade of two draft picks, a 2027 third round pick
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: in a 2028 fifth round or two Indianapolis to acquire
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: three-time all pro guard, eight-time Provo guard, Quentin Nelson from
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: the Colts. The pending of physical is what the Seahawks say,
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: but they have a, Now, confirm the reports, multiple reports
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: of the trade. Seahawks acquiring Quentin Nelson from the Indianapolis Colts,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: the all-pro guard. That's the big news of the day.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: That's what a lot of people on the text line
• 1:14:47
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  Speaker 10: Wait, Greg.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: Instant reaction to what they gave up.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: Again, he loves his draft picks. Now, he's got 11
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: of them next year, and he's given up one of
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: his 11, and one in 28. But he's not giving
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: up two mid-round picks without... intending to re-sign Nelson. That's
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: my reaction. Multiple picks means Nelson's staying. Think Rashid Shaheed.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: Think Ernest Jones. Think Leonard Williams. Think Dwayne Brown. All
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: his mid-season acquisitions he's made recently, he's re-signed them. He
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: hasn't rented them. He doesn't do rentals. If you're going
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: to take a couple draft picks from him, he's going
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: to re-sign that guy. So he's already had a talk
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: with the agent on what it's going to take to
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: re-sign Quentin Nelson. Quentin Nelson and Gray Zabel are going
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: to be the guards for the foreseeable future beyond 2026.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: That's my instant reaction to that. 425 on the Comodage
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: text line. Schneider just traded for an F30, F350. That
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: means truck. Road grader. Improves wide receivers, running backs, quarterbacks,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: and the defense. What a trade. This will now force
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: the Niners and Rams to do something and maybe overpay also.
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  Speaker 3: That's an interesting take.
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  Speaker 1: We'll leave you also.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, wait.
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  Speaker 1: 206, can we get a Zeke's in Puyallup? Oh. Gray
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: McClure is right outside. I should ask him that.
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  Speaker 3: How widespread are they? I didn't know they didn't have
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: one on the south end.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're pretty close to Seattle. I think there's one
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: in my neighborhood.
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  Speaker 3: There's one in mine, too.
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  Speaker 1: Green Lake.
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  Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah, we have one up in Edmonds. But I
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  Speaker 2: just don't... I don't know. We should get Greg back
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  Speaker 2: in here.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, uh.
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  Speaker 2: Zeke, they got that spicy pepper stuff going on out there.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I had a bite of that. It was
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: kind of hot. I was coughing a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: That's what happened?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: Clearing out those sinuses. Yeah.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: 425 says, on Donald's one interception against the Chiefs, two
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: receivers ran into one another. That was Shahid and Jackson
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: Smith and Jigba. Smith and Jigba took blame for that,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: saying he was trying to do too much. And he
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: went off of his assigned route and basically got into
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: Shahid's area. That drew three Chiefs defenders into the back
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: of the end zone, and that's where Darnold threw the ball.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: That was what Smith and Jigma said. So he took
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: the blame for it. And Sam Darnold's reaction to that, well,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: Jackson's a very good teammate. That's what he said about that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I thought that that was just like, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, like a unification of the teammates. I like
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: seeing them back each other up that way. It just
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  Speaker 2: tells me that the locker room is just fine. It
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: is just fine.
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  Speaker 1: To a lot of people echoing what the 206 is,
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  Speaker 1: I think the Hawks should move Zabel to center and
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: replace Sundell, which has experience doing so. He doesn't have
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: a lot of experience at center. He just did it
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl to show NFL scouts he could
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: do it. He played guard and tackle for North Dakota State.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: So I don't know about experience at center. He's done
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: it in practices at the Senior Bowl.
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  Speaker 3: I would ask him.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the next time there's locker room availability, ask
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: him what his preference would be moving inside or outside.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: 253 says the team is always better with a Notre
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: Dame stud on board. Nelson makes four of them for
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Jadarian Price, Quentin Nelson, Julian Love. Who am I missing
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: off the top of my head? Notre Dame guys. Julian Love.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: Jadarian Price.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: Jadarian Price. I said that. Oh, okay. Quentin Nelson would
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: be three. Why am I forgetting the fourth?
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: I can't come up with it.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: I can't come up with who.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: The fourth Notre Dame guy is either. Oh, Riley Mills. Oh, duh.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: 206 says, yep, still worried about Sam Darnold's turnovers. 425,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: regarding Sam Darnold, he is a quarterback that needs time
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: to throw. If he gets happy feet of pressure, he
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: will make mistakes. That's okay. Strengthen our offensive line. Give
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: him time to throw. He's got a hell of an
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: arm and a good football mind. I love him. I
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: love Sam Darnold. What detail is everyone forgetting to add
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: about Sam's interception, 2538? ball was tipped. Was it? Watching
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: it live in the press box, I didn't notice it
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: was tipped.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't, and sometimes just like the scratch of a
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: glove counts as a tip.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: I didn't see a deflection. That was obvious.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: I don't remember a tip. Alright, Ian's up next. He's
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: outside eating pizza. I'm going to have to pull him
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: away from the Zeke's Pizza that's outside. Ian's going to
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: tell us what he's got on the show next on
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: 93.3 KJR. Welcome back. If you missed our talk with
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: Jory Epstein, including what she's learned being in Philadelphia about
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: the Jalen Hurts situation, the union investigating that situation. Her
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: view of the Cowboys' Brian Schottenheimer suddenly becoming a run-first
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: Marty Schottenheimer last night. If you missed that, go to
• 1:19:42
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• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: or our website, 933KJR. com, The Greg Bell Show, and you
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: can play that back whenever you feel like it. The
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: window probably just closed on Jessamyn's pick of Titans plus
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: 10 at the Bengals. That's our latest Factor Fiction pick.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: The next one will be 235 with Ian Furness. You're smiling, Ian, like, No,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't chase, by the way.
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  Speaker 5: I heard you guys earlier. I didn't chase this week.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: You didn't this week.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't.
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  Speaker 9: No, I didn't feel good about the chase. The one
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 9: I did feel good about was the over, which it
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 9: hit for Monday night. But Chuck had done the ender earlier.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 9: I didn't want to just go. I'd wait later in
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 9: the week to do that. I didn't have a good
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 9: feel for that game. That game actually sucked anyway. For
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 9: the quote-unquote equinox yesterday, it was– Like, the football game
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 9: was eh, and the baseball game was awful.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 5: The whole series has been awful.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: Eight runs. Awful, except if you like how baseball is played.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's true baseball.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 5: Right, but it's just not compelling right now.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: No, it's not competitive.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 5: But what about Quentin Nelson?
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: Man, they go for it again. Another John Schneider splash
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: in the middle of the season. And I mentioned earlier.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: He doesn't do Reynolds.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 6: No.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: He's going to re-sign Quentin Nelson.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 5: Am I missing anybody?
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 9: So Leonard Williams, Ernest Jones, Rashid Shaheed. Those are the
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 9: three big ones he's made recently, right, in season? Am
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 9: I missing somebody? I don't think so, right? Are those
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 9: the three big ones?
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: Those are the three big ones.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 3: In the Mike McDonald era, I think those.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 5: Are the big ones.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 9: And Dwayne Brown before that. Leonard Williams was before that,
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 9: but yes, correct. But yeah, that, because Leonard came in
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 9: here Pete's last year, I believe, or the year 2022?
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, 2022.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. But they've re-signed them all. They don't do rentals.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 9: I remember having that discussion on the air when Leonard
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 9: Williams was traded for and having a debate on the
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 9: air with guys that aren't here anymore.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 5: And they're like, oh, it's a dumb trade. Why would
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 5: you do that?
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 9: And you know when you're around enough, you get the little–
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 9: the plan all along was to re-sign Leonard Williams. And
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 9: then people were like saying, well, why would you re-sign
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 9: Leonard Williams? Well, you're looking at Leonard Williams in New York.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 9: You're not looking at Leonard Williams here.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 5: And then they did re-sign him not once but twice, right?
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 5: Or the one time.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 9: That's the plan, and there's no way you're giving up
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 9: that draft capital with Quentin Nelson not to re-sign him,
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 9: and there's no way that you're making that trade. Correct
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 9: me if I'm wrong. There's no way you're making that
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 9: trade unless you've gone down the path with the agent
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 9: to find out is there an interest to re-sign him.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: He already knows from the agent what the number is.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: And is he willing to do it? And the answer
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: is yes, or else they wouldn't have made the deal. Now,
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: Anthony Bradford, in the meantime, I think Bradford may be
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: the next trade. I think that Snyder's going to turn
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: around and say, well, wait, we've got three guards for
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: two spots, and he's going to trade and maybe recoup
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: one of those fifth-round picks he gave up for Anthony Bradford.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 9: Because one of the things that I– I was just
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 9: mentioning this to Purple Sheet Bossman out there a minute ago.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 9: I said, yes, Gray Zabel played everywhere in college except
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 9: for center, but then he worked out at center in
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 9: the Super Bowl. But I don't– and you've watched more
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 9: practice than me, but all the minicamps, OTAs, and training
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 9: camps where we can see the entire practice– I don't
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 9: ever remember seeing Gray Zabel work outside.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 4: Nope.
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  Speaker 5: Not one snap.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: Nope.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, so I think you can take that off the table.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's... Although he started his senior year
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: at left tackle at North Dakota State. Agree. But you're right.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: He has not done it at all.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 5: And not at all here.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: So, yes. Do they move Zabel to right guard, which
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: he did play junior year.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 5: Probably.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: He played his junior season over there at North Dakota State.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 9: I wouldn't be surprised if we see a rotation the
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 9: first week with him and Bradford at right guard. Depending
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 9: on how long it takes Nelson to get up to speed.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 9: I would think a guy like that will be up
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 9: to speed by Monday.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. I would think. But yeah, it
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: would seem like Anthony Bradford's days are not numbered because
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: you don't give up two picks.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 9: Last year was contracts. Maybe they saw they weren't going
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 9: to spend the money. They didn't want to spend what
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 9: it would cost. They know what the market is.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: They'd rather spend it on a 30-year-old Quentin Nelson instead
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: of a 26-year-old Anthony Bradford.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 5: Yep, perfect.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: What do you got today?
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 9: We'll obviously talk a lot about that, what it means,
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 9: the bigger picture. I'm going to lean on somebody that
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 9: I might live with for a little breakdown of what
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 9: Quentin Nelson is. I know one offensive lineman. Are you
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 9: going to have him on the air?
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 5: At 1 o'clock.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 9: We had him on the air for the draft a
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 9: couple years ago, and he did okay.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: He was great.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: He did okay. He did pretty good. He was great. Yeah.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 9: And so as many interviews as he's going through right
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 9: now for his firefighting world, he's getting better at that stuff.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 9: So we're going to– I got a text from him, fellow,
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 9: this is this, this, this, and this, and This guy
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 9: can do this. And I said, okay, well, then you're
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 9: going to come on the air.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: Didn't he and Hugh chew each other's ears off one time?
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 9: I was privy to the half of that conversation. It
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 9: was amazing.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: That's respect, though.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 5: Real fast.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 9: Hugh was trying to figure out, and this is a
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 9: Hugh Millen thing, the one extra half step for something this,
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 9: something that. And how does that affect the quarterback? How
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 9: does it affect the lineman? An extra hitch here. And
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 9: it was an amazing conversation. I only heard half of it.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 9: So anyway, we'll break that down. Because I think there
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 9: is a difference. Left guard, right? There is a difference
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 9: for offensive linemen. Also the chemistry between the linemen. How
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 9: hard is that to gain and gather? This might be
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 9: the week to do with Jones playing left tackle anyway.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 9: So we'll talk about the impact of Quentin Nelson. Wide
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 9: zone game, pass blocking, all that stuff. We'll get to that,
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 9: what this means for Seattle.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: At 1 o'clock.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 5: We're going to do a little college football today, too.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: I think it's broken.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 5: I think it's badly broken.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: It sure is.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 5: Very badly broken.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 9: So with our normal visit with the Cougs, which will
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 9: be later on today, we're going to jump into that
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 9: a little bit more, the bigger picture. And actually, I'm
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 9: going to have Kim Grenells on from a dog man
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 9: at 120, because I don't think it's working out for anybody.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: Sure not for the Huskies.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 5: Just unless there's a handful of teams it's been great for,
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 5: and the networks. That's about it.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 9: So we'll talk about that, too, and get some fans.
• 1:25:30
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• 1:25:56
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• 1:25:59
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• 1:26:00
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• 1:26:02
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