Latest / The Right Time with Bomani Jones / Browns’ Deshaun Watson Disaster, UNC's Belichick Scandal & Tupac’s Murder Conviction | 09.08
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- 0:05Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time. My name
- 0:08Speaker 1: is Bomani Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you get your podcasts.
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- 0:19Speaker 1: It is a very special Time Machine Tuesday where we
- 0:23Speaker 1: take it back to all the stuff that happened while
- 0:26Speaker 1: we were on vacation. And by the way, I want
- 0:29Speaker 1: to say something. I... I saw somewhere, I can't remember where,
- 0:32Speaker 1: somebody accused us of a measure of laziness. And I'm like,
- 0:36Speaker 1: we give y'all content when I'm not. We go through
- 0:39Speaker 1: a lot to make sure that we always give y'all
- 0:42Speaker 1: something to step to.
- 0:43Speaker 2: We took one week off all year. One week off. Yeah,
- 0:47Speaker 2: we were running through stuff.
- 0:48Speaker 1: Yeah, we've taken one week off in 2026. And now
- 0:51Speaker 1: we come back and we still going to give you
- 0:53Speaker 1: a little something from what we missed because it was
- 0:56Speaker 1: a wild stuff going on while I was gone. Ryan,
- 1:00Speaker 1: where should we begin?
- 1:01Speaker 2: All right. I think we have to start with Deshaun Watson.
- 1:05Speaker 2: He's going to start for the Browns against the Jags
- 1:09Speaker 2: on Sunday. But he had an interesting preseason. He was
- 1:12Speaker 2: booed in the second game where he completed five of
- 1:15Speaker 2: 12 passes. And after the game, he said, Quote, the
- 1:19Speaker 2: whole world knows it has nothing to do about the performance.
- 1:22Speaker 2: It's a little more personal than that. I think it's
- 1:25Speaker 2: just a disrespectful thing. Bo, how do you think this
- 1:29Speaker 2: year is going to go for Deshaun Watson?
- 1:35Speaker 1: I want to start by saying that everything he said
- 1:39Speaker 1: right there is the Alonzo morning meme. Or it's like
- 1:43Speaker 1: you shake your head because you don't like how it sounds,
- 1:45Speaker 1: but he's not wrong. It is largely personal. Now, of course,
- 1:51Speaker 1: a lot of it is fueled by the fact that
- 1:53Speaker 1: he has not played well. But like the booing when
- 1:55Speaker 1: he got hurt and all of that stuff. No, that's
- 1:57Speaker 1: also because, you know, people think he nasty and they
- 2:00Speaker 1: was willing to overlook the fact that he was nasty
- 2:02Speaker 1: when they thought he was going to be good. And
- 2:03Speaker 1: now he's sorry and he nasty. And now it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
- 2:07Speaker 1: They're going way too far on this. What I'm also
- 2:10Speaker 1: fascinated by with him is and I had somebody who
- 2:14Speaker 1: knows these things confirm when I said this on Twitter
- 2:16Speaker 1: that there's something to it. What seems to be killing
- 2:19Speaker 1: him more than anything is the fact that people don't
- 2:20Speaker 1: like him anymore. Like, I don't think that we will
- 2:23Speaker 1: ever be able to fully understand the true effects of
- 2:26Speaker 1: the way that he was exposed before everyone after being
- 2:30Speaker 1: considered one of the good guys, right? And he's doing Habitat, Humanity,
- 2:34Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. And then he became
- 2:36Speaker 1: a pariah. And then he didn't seem to... And I
- 2:39Speaker 1: think that contributed to him not having it anymore as
- 2:41Speaker 1: a player, right? This game is about milliseconds.
- 2:44Speaker 2: And I.
- 2:47Speaker 1: Tiger Woods fans will tell you part of why he
- 2:49Speaker 1: was never the same after 2010 is they feel like,
- 2:51Speaker 1: you know, once you've been exposed in the way that
- 2:53Speaker 1: he was, pulling it back together is very, very difficult.
- 2:57Speaker 1: And so to me, that's a huge part of where
- 3:00Speaker 1: Watson is, but ain't nobody trying to hear that shit, man.
- 3:04Speaker 1: The only explanation for him getting out there and saying
- 3:07Speaker 1: that is he was trying to get cut or trying
- 3:09Speaker 1: to get benched, and they're like, ain't nobody here going
- 3:12Speaker 1: to pay you not to work. So what's going to
- 3:14Speaker 1: happen here is he doesn't seem to be good anymore.
- 3:18Speaker 1: The fans there don't want him to be the starter anymore,
- 3:22Speaker 1: but the owner is paying him all that money And
- 3:25Speaker 1: so they are going to trot him out there until
- 3:27Speaker 1: they literally cannot do it anymore. And it as if
- 3:32Speaker 1: rooting for the Browns, is it miserable enough? They are
- 3:38Speaker 1: going to continue trotting him out here and everybody's going
- 3:43Speaker 1: to feel terrible about it. The biggest winner in this,
- 3:47Speaker 1: the biggest winner is obvious. Okay. It was a mere mistake.
- 3:52Speaker 1: 16 months ago that it was fair to ask if
- 3:59Speaker 1: Shador Sanders acting like a jerk through his draft process
- 4:04Speaker 1: is a big part of what tanked out his draft stock.
- 4:08Speaker 1: Fast forward to this summer and he does a preseason
- 4:13Speaker 1: game interview where he's all over the place. And now
- 4:17Speaker 1: he's like the most beloved man in Cleveland. There is a,
- 4:20Speaker 1: those people want that. That's right. Those people want that
- 4:25Speaker 1: guy to be the starter, even though he's not good.
- 4:30Speaker 2: And he, and we, and we watched him play last
- 4:33Speaker 2: year and he was not good.
- 4:34Speaker 1: Watched him play, but he's not Deshaun Watson. And that's
- 4:39Speaker 1: all he's got to be as long as Deshaun Watson
- 4:43Speaker 1: is on that team. He's just got to not be him.
- 4:51Speaker 1: I cannot believe that that has played out the way
- 4:56Speaker 1: that it has. And on the other hand, they are
- 5:03Speaker 1: paying him a lot of money.
- 5:04Speaker 2: A lot of money. Fully guaranteed.
- 5:07Speaker 1: Now, that's the single worst transaction. We talked about this
- 5:11Speaker 1: yesterday with Kawhi Leonard. This is the single worst transaction
- 5:15Speaker 1: to me in the history of American team sports. And
- 5:18Speaker 1: they paid so much more than anybody else was willing
- 5:23Speaker 1: to pay. It wasn't like everybody was up there to
- 5:27Speaker 1: try to give him that money. No. Jimmy Haslam was like, hey,
- 5:33Speaker 1: I'm going to get this done. Watch this. and got
- 5:36Speaker 1: a guy who couldn't play anymore.
- 5:38Speaker 2: Talk about an all-time great businessman, like we talked about
- 5:42Speaker 2: in yesterday's show. All right, so sticking to Ohio, 49ers
- 5:46Speaker 2: owner Jed York was arrested outside of Cleveland for allegedly
- 5:50Speaker 2: using a prostitution website to arrange a meeting with someone
- 5:53Speaker 2: who turned out to be an undercover officer in exchange
- 5:56Speaker 2: for $ 140. He has pleaded no contest to engaging in
- 6:02Speaker 2: prostitution and possessing criminal tools. Bo, you know, I try
- 6:07Speaker 2: not to bother you on vacation, you know, for just
- 6:10Speaker 2: random news of the day stuff.
- 6:13Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what's not working, what's fun.
- 6:15Speaker 2: Correct, correct. This was a auto-send.
- 6:19Speaker 1: Okay, so... You never know when my empathetic side is
- 6:28Speaker 1: going to jump off. I don't want to actually say
- 6:30Speaker 1: more sympathetic than empathetic because empathy implies that I can relate.
- 6:35Speaker 1: And I want to be very clear, I cannot. Not
- 6:39Speaker 1: to this right here. But the details on this Jed
- 6:43Speaker 1: York story are so amazing to me.
- 6:48Speaker 2: Okay?
- 6:49Speaker 1: So for those who don't know, Jed York is the
- 6:51Speaker 1: owner of the 49ers. His uncle was Eddie DiBartolo, who
- 6:55Speaker 1: was the owner when they won all the championships. Don't forget,
- 6:58Speaker 1: you have to walk through the story. Don't forget. But DiBartolo, Brian,
- 7:02Speaker 1: you know why DiBartolo lost the team, right?
- 7:05Speaker 2: I do not.
- 7:06Speaker 1: Oh, this is right up your alley. DeBartolo was trying
- 7:11Speaker 1: to get a casino license in the state of Louisiana.
- 7:17Speaker 2: Of course he was.
- 7:18Speaker 1: But the man who stood between him and that license
- 7:21Speaker 1: had always felt that Ed DeBartolo, who was Ed Jr.,
- 7:25Speaker 1: had never treated him with the proper respect that he deserved,
- 7:27Speaker 1: the respect that his father had given him. And so
- 7:30Speaker 1: that man decided that he was going to shake Ed
- 7:34Speaker 1: DeBartolo down.
- 7:35Speaker 2: Oh, I.
- 7:36Speaker 1: Would you like to guess who that man was?
- 7:38Speaker 2: Edwin Edwards?
- 7:39Speaker 1: Yes, it was. That's what got Edwin set up the river.
- 7:44Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, okay. Okay, now I'm putting this together.
- 7:47Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm pretty sure that that's what got Edwin sent
- 7:49Speaker 1: to jail. But anyway, so he loses the team. They
- 7:52Speaker 1: take the team from Ed and they give it to
- 7:54Speaker 1: his sister. And his sister's son is Jed York. Okay.
- 8:01Speaker 2: Now....
- 8:03Speaker 1: The DeBartolos are not from California. They are from a
- 8:08Speaker 1: little town called Youngstown, Ohio. And I didn't realize just
- 8:13Speaker 1: how gangsta Youngstown, Ohio was until I started working with
- 8:17Speaker 1: the Canadians and they knew how gangsta Youngstown, Ohio was. Youngstown,
- 8:21Speaker 1: Ohio basically produces football coaches and gangsters. And when I
- 8:24Speaker 1: say gangsters, I mean actual gangsters. Maurice Clarich. Shout out
- 8:28Speaker 1: to him. He is also from Youngstown, Ohio. Youngstown is
- 8:32Speaker 1: a little rumble tumble, right? Anyway, story is that Jed
- 8:36Speaker 1: York has either gotten divorced or is in the process
- 8:40Speaker 1: of getting divorced. And so he has moved to Ohio. Boy,
- 8:44Speaker 1: divorce be doing it to people, man. Like divorce takes
- 8:47Speaker 1: people there. So anyway, while in Ohio, Jed York got
- 8:54Speaker 1: popped for this solicitation of a prostitute, which by the way,
- 8:57Speaker 1: as I recall, was not in the final charges, right?
- 9:00Speaker 2: Yeah, they got put down.
- 9:01Speaker 1: They maneuver it to something else. You got a conference
- 9:04Speaker 1: to listen to a prostitute, but I need you to
- 9:06Speaker 1: understand what kind of solicitation of a prostitute we're talking
- 9:09Speaker 1: about here.
- 9:10Speaker 2: Okay?
- 9:15Speaker 1: According to the paperwork, Ed Bartolo, no, excuse me, Jed York,
- 9:21Speaker 1: my bad, Jed York, he had a Jones. He wanted
- 9:30Speaker 1: a little something. And he went to one of the
- 9:35Speaker 1: publications where you can find a little something. And so
- 9:40Speaker 1: he went to that publication and he texted saying that
- 9:45Speaker 1: he would like a lady, basically. He received no reply.
- 9:54Speaker 1: He waited a few hours. He sent another text. He
- 10:01Speaker 1: received no reply. He jumps in his car, starts driving,
- 10:12Speaker 1: and sends another text basically saying, I'm on the wait.
- 10:19Speaker 1: I don't even think at that point he even knew yet, Ryan,
- 10:23Speaker 1: where to go.
- 10:25Speaker 2: I just remembered. I forgot. I left out the location
- 10:28Speaker 2: of this story.
- 10:29Speaker 1: Well, no, no, no.
- 10:29Speaker 2: We're going to get there.
- 10:30Speaker 1: We're going to get there, right? But I don't think
- 10:33Speaker 1: he even knew where to go at that point. The
- 10:36Speaker 1: number that he hit up, it was a trap. It
- 10:38Speaker 1: was the cops. But think about this. Apparently the cops,
- 10:41Speaker 1: they don't care about everybody, right? So the first one,
- 10:45Speaker 1: they're like, man, we're a little too tired. We need
- 10:46Speaker 1: to worry about this. And then the second one, they
- 10:49Speaker 1: still wasn't even trying to fight no crime. That was
- 10:51Speaker 1: just not what they were doing. I think it was
- 10:52Speaker 1: a Sunday, if I'm not mistaken. I don't think they
- 10:55Speaker 1: even felt like it. And then he says, well, fuck it,
- 10:58Speaker 1: I'm on the way. And now, now they got to
- 11:01Speaker 1: snap into action.
- 11:02Speaker 2: Now, I guess, I guess if we have to.
- 11:04Speaker 1: Right, right. And so they started engaging him and they
- 11:07Speaker 1: told him to meet them at some trailer park.
- 11:11Speaker 2: Mobile home residences, Bo. Mobile home.
- 11:18Speaker 1: Okay, there we go. However you want to spin it,
- 11:22Speaker 1: that's where they told him to go. And he was like, bet.
- 11:26Speaker 1: And he went, and it wasn't even a real address.
- 11:29Speaker 1: They just needed him to go there so that he
- 11:31Speaker 1: could say that he went there, and then they went
- 11:33Speaker 1: and locked him up, right? And so, let me bring
- 11:38Speaker 1: this home to where I started, which was, I don't
- 11:42Speaker 1: know about you guys, but I have heard at various
- 11:45Speaker 1: points in my life about people having a sex addiction. And,
- 11:51Speaker 1: I mean, don't nobody really believe in that talk, right?
- 11:56Speaker 1: Let me be honest, if you ask the average person
- 11:59Speaker 1: on the street, like I remember, I don't know if
- 12:01Speaker 1: you know this, Ryan, but way back in the day,
- 12:02Speaker 1: Steven Tyler for Aerosmith claimed to have a sex addiction.
- 12:06Speaker 2: I do know this, yes.
- 12:07Speaker 1: But he's like the first person I recall anybody had
- 12:09Speaker 1: ever heard of who had tried to run this store, right?
- 12:15Speaker 1: And people are like, what are you talking about? This
- 12:16Speaker 1: is preposterous. Okay. Oh, we also, I didn't mention this part.
- 12:24Speaker 1: The cost of these services was $ 140. Yes. And he
- 12:30Speaker 1: pulled up with $ 140. No, no, I didn't ask for
- 12:33Speaker 1: his change.
- 12:33Speaker 2: I'm honestly amazed the man that rich had $ 140 in cash.
- 12:35Speaker 1: Right.
- 12:35Speaker 2: Right.
- 12:36Speaker 1: But he pulled up with $ 140.
- 12:37Speaker 2: Okay.
- 12:37Speaker 1: Okay. All I'm saying is, if you go to the
- 12:48Speaker 1: back page looking for a sex worker and you don't
- 12:54Speaker 1: get an answer, and then you hit him again and
- 13:00Speaker 1: you don't get an answer, and you jump in your
- 13:03Speaker 1: car without having actually gotten an answer, if that ain't
- 13:11Speaker 1: a fiend, I don't know what is. Like that's a
- 13:14Speaker 1: real crack. That's a real crackhead behavior that he just
- 13:17Speaker 1: engaged in right there. So as much as everybody like
- 13:20Speaker 1: see people like, oh, man, why don't you know, one
- 13:22Speaker 1: hundred forty dollars? You rich. You could have dot, dot, dot.
- 13:25Speaker 1: But sometimes I guess you just want French fries.
- 13:27Speaker 2: Right.
- 13:27Speaker 1: Sometimes you just want a quarter pounder. OK. I mean,
- 13:30Speaker 1: I guess that's what it is. But I'm just saying
- 13:33Speaker 1: that clearly this man has something.
- 13:37Speaker 2: Or let's call it a need or a desire.
- 13:40Speaker 1: Yeah, if that was the set of events that took place,
- 13:43Speaker 1: like I wish there was a camera in his car.
- 13:44Speaker 1: He was probably gripping that steering wheel, white knuckle boy, tight. Yeah,
- 13:48Speaker 1: but he was tending to, gripping it, hunched over. Like,
- 13:51Speaker 1: you know how it is when you get sleepy and
- 13:53Speaker 1: you're driving, you got to really make sure you lock in.
- 13:55Speaker 1: I bet he was driving fast. I'm surprised he ain't
- 13:57Speaker 1: get a ticket on the way.
- 13:59Speaker 2: Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh. I don't know.
- 14:04Speaker 1: I don't know. He was swangin' and bangin' trying to
- 14:07Speaker 1: get there. Swangin' and bangin', that's funny. He was doing
- 14:10Speaker 1: all that to try to get there. So, yeah, that's
- 14:12Speaker 1: what I'm saying, man. Like, clearly this man, if this
- 14:15Speaker 1: man don't take his ass to rehab, I don't know
- 14:17Speaker 1: what's wrong with him. Son, you need help.
- 14:21Speaker 2: All right, speaking of the 49ers, two men were arrested
- 14:25Speaker 2: for repeatedly posing as 49 players on dating apps and
- 14:30Speaker 2: defrauding more than two dozen women out of $ 1. 3 million.
- 14:35Speaker 2: Apparently their scheme was to create these dating profiles. One
- 14:39Speaker 2: of the men would tend to be a 49ers football player.
- 14:43Speaker 2: The other one pretended to be his business partner with
- 14:47Speaker 2: lots of investment opportunities. And that's how they defrauded all
- 14:51Speaker 2: these women. Bo, you are insistent that we added this
- 14:55Speaker 2: story into the rundown.
- 14:59Speaker 1: And you know what? I really don't know why. And
- 15:02Speaker 1: the reason I say I don't know.
- 15:03Speaker 3: Why is I feel like I am putting myself in
- 15:06Speaker 3: such a terrible situation where I just somewhat encouraged a
- 15:10Speaker 3: measure of sympathy to this man in hot pursuit of
- 15:13Speaker 3: a prostitute. And I admit, I struggle to find that
- 15:20Speaker 3: warm spot in my heart when I hear stories.
- 15:22Speaker 1: Like these for the people that fall for it. It
- 15:25Speaker 1: is tough. Like, I hear all these things all the
- 15:28Speaker 1: time about how women always, you know, you never know
- 15:30Speaker 1: about men. You got to Google them or whatever. But
- 15:33Speaker 1: what they said about this cat was.
- 15:35Speaker 2: The AI showed, yeah. The Google AI thought he was
- 15:38Speaker 2: an actual player.
- 15:39Speaker 1: Yeah, he had put so much content out there about
- 15:41Speaker 1: himself that Google thought he was a football player. Right? But, man,
- 15:47Speaker 1: by now you've probably seen the videos of him out there, like,
- 15:51Speaker 1: running routes and got his helmet with him all the time,
- 15:55Speaker 1: everywhere else. And it's just, and look, maybe Ryan, it's
- 15:58Speaker 1: the fact that we've been doing this job for so
- 16:00Speaker 1: long that we know that man is not what a
- 16:02Speaker 1: professional athlete looks like. And the thing that makes it
- 16:06Speaker 1: worse for him is that like he got his shirt off.
- 16:10Speaker 2: All right.
- 16:10Speaker 1: So like, for example, and just to be clear, I've
- 16:13Speaker 1: never seen, let me just say defensive backs in the NFL.
- 16:18Speaker 1: If I showed you an NFL DB on the street,
- 16:21Speaker 1: If he has his clothes on, you're not going to know.
- 16:24Speaker 1: Like if you saw me and Dominique walking down the street,
- 16:27Speaker 1: you don't know Dominique is an NFL player. I've never
- 16:30Speaker 1: seen Dominique with no shirt on. But I imagine if
- 16:33Speaker 1: Dominique took off his shirt, you're like, oh, wait a minute.
- 16:35Speaker 1: That's an NFL player.
- 16:36Speaker 2: Yeah, and also, you know, Dominique, DBs don't have really
- 16:40Speaker 2: opportunities in normal life to show off their main skills,
- 16:42Speaker 2: which is, you know, freakish speed.
- 16:44Speaker 1: Dude, Dominique once showed me a picture of when he
- 16:47Speaker 1: was five years old and he had an eight pack.
- 16:51Speaker 1: He's five years old. That's all I'm saying, right? At
- 16:55Speaker 1: that point, you can tell. This dude is putting videos
- 16:58Speaker 1: of him on the beach with a helmet on and
- 17:01Speaker 1: no shirt. And I'm just telling you, nothing about that
- 17:04Speaker 1: looked like a professional athlete.
- 17:06Speaker 2: The idea that these NFL players are just walking around
- 17:08Speaker 2: with their helmets out of work.
- 17:11Speaker 1: Right. So at least I'll give him this. Okay. At
- 17:17Speaker 1: least he wasn't pretending to be another NFL player. He
- 17:22Speaker 1: was saying that he was himself and he was in
- 17:25Speaker 1: the NFL. There was a story a few years ago
- 17:28Speaker 1: about a dude that was pretending to be Ben Roethlisberger.
- 17:32Speaker 1: And there was another dude that was pretending to be
- 17:35Speaker 1: Vince Young. And I encourage all of you to look
- 17:39Speaker 1: up pictures of those people. Ryan, I don't know if
- 17:44Speaker 1: you have seen either of these.
- 17:46Speaker 2: I have not.
- 17:47Speaker 1: Okay. I am going to pull up a picture of
- 17:51Speaker 1: of Vince Young next to the Vince Young imposter.
- 17:54Speaker 2: I have seen Vince Young in real life. So I
- 17:57Speaker 2: know what Vince Young looks like.
- 17:58Speaker 1: Oh no, but I just want you, just for you,
- 18:00Speaker 1: I'm putting him side by side. You see the picture?
- 18:07Speaker 1: You see the picture? Yes. Okay. Okay. Now, let me
- 18:11Speaker 1: find the Ben Roethlisberger, the Ben Roethlisberger impersonator who also
- 18:15Speaker 1: would alternate between pretending that he was Ben Roethlisberger and
- 18:19Speaker 1: Brian St. Pierre. Now I want you to get a
- 18:23Speaker 1: look at him. Now I'm just asking you how sorry
- 18:29Speaker 1: I'm supposed to feel for these people.
- 18:31Speaker 2: I can say this about the last one. That's a
- 18:33Speaker 2: they all look alike situation.
- 18:34Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. By the way, his name is Brian Jackson.
- 18:39Speaker 1: There's a Brian Jackson that made a lot of music
- 18:40Speaker 1: with Gil Scott Heron, and it is not that Brian Jackson.
- 18:43Speaker 1: This is a hashtag white Brian Jackson. White Brian's everywhere.
- 18:47Speaker 1: White Brian Jackson, a little bit different. And I swear, man,
- 18:50Speaker 1: anytime these stories come around, I'm like, I just don't
- 18:53Speaker 1: know how sympathetic I'm supposed to be. That man said
- 18:55Speaker 1: he was rich, and you sent him money. Now I
- 18:59Speaker 1: see why women be so insistent about not paying for shit.
- 19:03Speaker 1: Apparently that's a big red flag. I just, hold on,
- 19:07Speaker 1: I just can't, I just can't. Like, these guys got
- 19:11Speaker 1: $ 1. 3 million worth. My favorite thing is how entertained all
- 19:15Speaker 1: the football players.
- 19:16Speaker 2: Yes, they all thought this was hysterical.
- 19:19Speaker 1: Amazing, just shocking. And the real problem, obviously, is Somebody
- 19:26Speaker 1: else saw that, and it's going to be like, bad.
- 19:30Speaker 1: Let it die down a little bit. It's going to
- 19:33Speaker 1: be maybe another year or two, but you're going to
- 19:34Speaker 1: hear about another story just like this, because all you
- 19:37Speaker 1: got to do is find somebody that don't really pay
- 19:40Speaker 1: that much attention to football, and boom, you can pull
- 19:45Speaker 1: it off.
- 19:46Speaker 2: For sure. Drama going on in college football. UNC football
- 19:52Speaker 2: general manager Mike Lombardi resigned on Thursday after some reports
- 19:58Speaker 2: of impropriety. And now Steve Belichick is under investigation for
- 20:01Speaker 2: potentially using drugs in the job or providing drugs to
- 20:05Speaker 2: at least one player. Also, separately, There's an investigation going
- 20:10Speaker 2: on of whether a member of UNC's recruiting staff had
- 20:13Speaker 2: a sexual relationship with a player. People told WRAL and Raleigh,
- 20:19Speaker 2: the lawyers, also asked about possible sexual relationships between assistant
- 20:23Speaker 2: coaches and recruiting staff. Bo, what's going on in North Carolina?
- 20:29Speaker 2: Apparently everything.
- 20:31Speaker 1: I'd also like to say, tell me a little bit
- 20:34Speaker 1: more about this recruiting staff that you're talking about. about here. Like,
- 20:41Speaker 1: what's really going on? It could be a lot of things,
- 20:44Speaker 1: is what I'm saying in part. I will tell you this, though.
- 20:46Speaker 1: I remember this coming up and talking to a former
- 20:51Speaker 1: college football player who was in the media. And the
- 20:53Speaker 1: idea that the recruiting staff is having a relationship with
- 20:56Speaker 1: a player. But they said the rule always was, like
- 21:02Speaker 1: with visits, is the girls that meet the parents don't
- 21:11Speaker 1: sleep with the players the girls that are going to
- 21:15Speaker 1: sleep with the players never meet the parents that's that's
- 21:19Speaker 1: kind of how that goes um If North Carolina is
- 21:24Speaker 1: doing that, they're like, oh, man, you guys, you guys
- 21:26Speaker 1: don't know. Belichick really didn't know anything about what the
- 21:29Speaker 1: rules are on how any of this goes. I don't
- 21:32Speaker 1: I don't know. I'll tell you this. This also feels
- 21:34Speaker 1: very much like it's at the point where they're just like,
- 21:36Speaker 1: can we fire this guy for cause? I can't believe
- 21:39Speaker 1: what an abject disaster this whole thing has been. I'm shocked.
- 21:46Speaker 1: By the way, what if they turn out to be
- 21:48Speaker 1: like eight and four this year or something like that?
- 21:50Speaker 1: Which in North Carolina is like going 10 and two,
- 21:53Speaker 1: just about anywhere else.
- 21:54Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm not surprised they're bad at football.
- 21:57Speaker 2: I'm surprised they're, they're run. It seems like everything about
- 22:01Speaker 2: the operation is run extraordinarily poorly.
- 22:03Speaker 1: Yeah, I am. The, the, like, They feel like a
- 22:07Speaker 1: renegade program at a time where you would think that
- 22:10Speaker 1: there aren't any rules anymore. It's like they're finding the
- 22:13Speaker 1: rules to break. I can't believe that this has gone
- 22:17Speaker 1: as terribly as it has and all these allegations where
- 22:20Speaker 1: nobody feels good about the program. Look, I've been around
- 22:23Speaker 1: Carolina football in a lot of ways, and they can
- 22:25Speaker 1: always fake it until like week three. They couldn't even
- 22:30Speaker 1: fake it going into week one this year. They couldn't. Like,
- 22:34Speaker 1: it's been, like, they've killed the morale. Hey, at least
- 22:39Speaker 1: they got a new basketball coach. Maybe they can get
- 22:41Speaker 1: excited about that. I have this question, though, about Steve Belichick,
- 22:44Speaker 1: and I think that this is very important, okay? Because
- 22:47Speaker 1: the allegation is that he's using drugs on the job,
- 22:50Speaker 1: and they said that he had offered drugs to a player.
- 22:54Speaker 1: And obviously, a very important question is, what do you
- 23:01Speaker 1: mean by drugs? Right. If you are talking about cocaine,
- 23:09Speaker 1: obviously that is very bad. If you were talking about
- 23:12Speaker 1: pills in any sort of way, obviously it is very
- 23:16Speaker 1: bad that he is using them at the office and
- 23:18Speaker 1: certainly a problem that he's offering them to players. But
- 23:21Speaker 1: this is North Carolina with North Carolina's laws, which is
- 23:24Speaker 1: to say we might be talking about weed. And if
- 23:28Speaker 1: you smoke a weed at work, that's no big deal.
- 23:32Speaker 1: And if you smoke a weed with one of his players.
- 23:35Speaker 1: That sounds like leadership.
- 23:35Speaker 2: Hey, man. Go in places his father would never go.
- 23:43Speaker 1: Sometimes you got to meet people where they at. That's
- 23:45Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'll just tell you this. If that
- 23:50Speaker 1: player came and smoked a joint with Steve Belichick, they're
- 23:52Speaker 1: going to be simpatico from here until forever. There's a
- 23:55Speaker 1: level of bonding that's going to take place over that
- 23:57Speaker 1: joint that nothing can tear asunder. That's all I'm saying. Now,
- 24:02Speaker 1: do I think they're saying he was smoking weed? Probably not.
- 24:06Speaker 1: But I just want to put it on the board
- 24:08Speaker 1: because right now we don't know what it is. All
- 24:10Speaker 1: I know is they initially called it a medical problem.
- 24:14Speaker 1: And that's what we should have known.
- 24:16Speaker 2: Damn.
- 24:17Speaker 1: So even your son out here like this is this
- 24:20Speaker 1: is like 1989 Oklahoma type situation here. This is crazy.
- 24:27Speaker 1: And you need to understand how mortified they were in
- 24:31Speaker 1: Chapel Hill in 2010. when they found out guys may
- 24:34Speaker 1: have gotten some money.
- 24:36Speaker 2: Some money and not going to some classes. Yes, yes.
- 24:39Speaker 1: Which also led us to one of the more bizarre
- 24:42Speaker 1: college football games that I've ever seen that Ryan may have.
- 24:45Speaker 2: Actually been there for. I was there. I was there.
- 24:49Speaker 1: Carolina. Les almost found a way to lose to a
- 24:53Speaker 1: team that didn't have any of its players. And all
- 24:56Speaker 1: because they were dropping passes in the end zone at
- 24:58Speaker 1: the end of the game. That was also, I remember
- 25:03Speaker 1: looking at Patrick Peterson in that game. This is the
- 25:06Speaker 1: greatest athlete I've ever seen in my life.
- 25:10Speaker 2: I mean, he was so good at returning kicks, he
- 25:13Speaker 2: started cramping in the second quarter.
- 25:17Speaker 1: What a, anyway, all that's to say, Carolina is wishing
- 25:20Speaker 1: for those good old days of Butch Davis. They were
- 25:22Speaker 1: this close to making that thing work. This close. And
- 25:25Speaker 1: now when we look back at what shut that program down, nothing.
- 25:30Speaker 1: It was all because Marvin Austin tweeted a rap lyric.
- 25:36Speaker 1: The whole thing went down over bottles like it's a giveaway.
- 25:43Speaker 1: And he said, I sent that from my couch. They
- 25:47Speaker 1: shut the whole program down. All right, Bo.
- 25:54Speaker 2: That was just the crazy stuff that happened in sports
- 25:57Speaker 2: while we were gone. Let's get to some of the
- 25:59Speaker 2: other stuff. A Nevada jury found three, two, one. All right, Bo.
- 26:08Speaker 2: That was the crazy stuff that happened in sports. There
- 26:10Speaker 2: were some other things that happened. We'll start off with
- 26:14Speaker 2: they convicted Tupac's murderer. After 30 years, Dwayne Davis was
- 26:23Speaker 2: convicted for orchestrating the 1996 drive-by of killed Tupac. Davis
- 26:28Speaker 2: has recently reiterated that he is innocent, accusing witnesses of
- 26:32Speaker 2: lying on the stand and that there is an autobiography
- 26:35Speaker 2: that he claims he did not write. Uh, Bo, what
- 26:37Speaker 2: was your reaction to this news?
- 26:39Speaker 1: Keefy D had been doing every four pay interview podcast
- 26:43Speaker 1: on the internet, talking about how he was involved in
- 26:47Speaker 1: Tupac getting killed. And then like, I don't know, was
- 26:51Speaker 1: he shocked that people found out? Like, I don't, There's
- 26:55Speaker 1: a part of me that finds it impossible to believe
- 27:01Speaker 1: that for whatever murders that man has been responsible in
- 27:06Speaker 1: his life, that there's not some measure of guilt that
- 27:10Speaker 1: is there. Because as I recall, he also thought he
- 27:12Speaker 1: was going to die. He had a cancer diagnosis or
- 27:14Speaker 1: something like that. He was behaving like a man that
- 27:17Speaker 1: felt like he didn't have that much time left. And
- 27:19Speaker 1: I viewed his behaviors in this as the behaviors of
- 27:23Speaker 1: a guilty man who just felt like the need to confess,
- 27:26Speaker 1: but then also became a man who did not want
- 27:29Speaker 1: to go to jail. I think the obvious question about
- 27:35Speaker 1: where this goes from here is whether or not we're
- 27:37Speaker 1: going to get a Diddy connection. Because Diddy's connection to
- 27:40Speaker 1: the Crips out in L.A. and KVD being a Crip
- 27:43Speaker 1: and all of that stuff, that seems to be the
- 27:44Speaker 1: logical next step, assuming KVD wants to go there. Or
- 27:47Speaker 1: assuming that the people involved want to go there. We
- 27:50Speaker 1: don't know. I will say, though, as somebody who was
- 27:55Speaker 1: around for all of these things and what a big
- 27:57Speaker 1: deal it was, and maybe it's the fact that we've
- 27:59Speaker 1: always had a little bit of an idea, or not
- 28:03Speaker 1: even an idea. We've known for a very long time
- 28:05Speaker 1: the name of the man that shot Tupac. His name
- 28:07Speaker 1: was Orlando Anderson, a.k.a. Baby Lane. We've known this. So
- 28:11Speaker 1: maybe there's some element of this that felt anticlimactic, but like,
- 28:17Speaker 1: For Tupac's murder to have been such a big deal
- 28:20Speaker 1: and Tupac himself to have been such a big deal
- 28:23Speaker 1: and this to have been unsolved for 30 years, it
- 28:27Speaker 1: felt like there really wasn't that much. And maybe it's
- 28:30Speaker 1: because I was in another country. You tell me if
- 28:32Speaker 1: I'm wrong. But it felt like it wasn't that much
- 28:33Speaker 1: around the fact that there was, in fact, a conviction.
- 28:36Speaker 1: Like this is this is a really big deal. And
- 28:39Speaker 1: that is a historically significant moment and an opportunity, I think,
- 28:45Speaker 1: for people my age to really go back and realize
- 28:48Speaker 1: what a crazy time that was. You know, like like
- 28:53Speaker 1: it was that 1996, the greatest year in the history
- 28:57Speaker 1: of rap. Tupac was the biggest star. He didn't even
- 28:59Speaker 1: make it past September. in that year. But everything that
- 29:02Speaker 1: happened that night, all the things, it just, it was
- 29:05Speaker 1: so much, and like to go back and read it
- 29:07Speaker 1: and see the names and how many people reported on
- 29:09Speaker 1: it then and couldn't get anywhere, the relationships that it
- 29:11Speaker 1: just has to the gangs and to the police and
- 29:14Speaker 1: to all these different people. It is, to me, somewhat
- 29:18Speaker 1: shocking that it didn't feel, that that conviction didn't feel
- 29:21Speaker 1: more impactful on something larger. Like that, that's the part
- 29:25Speaker 1: that gets me.
- 29:26Speaker 2: Do you think part of that is because they didn't
- 29:29Speaker 2: It's like they didn't solve it. He kind of told
- 29:31Speaker 2: them himself. Do you think that's part of it?
- 29:32Speaker 1: I think that's part of it. And I also think
- 29:34Speaker 1: the part of it is he's not the shooter. Right.
- 29:37Speaker 1: you know and I think maybe maybe that's it the
- 29:39Speaker 1: shooter's been dead for almost 30 years himself which again
- 29:43Speaker 1: is another reflection of just like what the madness was
- 29:46Speaker 1: that surrounded all this that this dude himself made it
- 29:49Speaker 1: died like two years later and it wasn't even over
- 29:51Speaker 1: this It was over a drug deal, I want to say,
- 29:55Speaker 1: that that dude got killed over. But I just thought
- 29:58Speaker 1: it would have landed with a little bit more of
- 29:59Speaker 1: a bang. And it did not. But about time, I guess.
- 30:05Speaker 2: Right. Sick of the music, Dolly Parton died at the
- 30:08Speaker 2: age of 80. Of course, one of the most successful
- 30:11Speaker 2: country music stars in history, also being famous for her
- 30:15Speaker 2: cultural influence and philanthropy through Dollywood. But what is your
- 30:20Speaker 2: relationship like with Dolly Parton?
- 30:22Speaker 1: So, One day, this is maybe five years ago, I
- 30:25Speaker 1: can't remember when, this happens every now and then when
- 30:28Speaker 1: you talk to Spencer. And he's just on a kick.
- 30:31Speaker 1: And he was just like, you know, let's talk about
- 30:33Speaker 1: Dolly Parton. And in fact, it may have been longer
- 30:35Speaker 1: ago than that. And he ran, this is before she
- 30:39Speaker 1: became like this Twitter darling for people. And he ran
- 30:43Speaker 1: through like the whole idea. You send Dolly Parton a letter,
- 30:45Speaker 1: she'll send you a book, right? Like he talked about,
- 30:47Speaker 1: you know, the importance of that. All of those all
- 30:51Speaker 1: of all the things around her. And I was like, wow,
- 30:53Speaker 1: she's really impressive. And then gradually, you know, saw the
- 30:57Speaker 1: world pick up on it and everything else. What I
- 31:01Speaker 1: could say about her, and I'm not a scholar of
- 31:04Speaker 1: her catalog, but man, that is an incredibly talented musician.
- 31:10Speaker 1: Like as a writer, unreal, a great singer to play guitar,
- 31:14Speaker 1: like all of that, like she's, She is rare. Like,
- 31:17Speaker 1: there are some people that just come to the world
- 31:20Speaker 1: and are just incredibly special. Not just special in the
- 31:25Speaker 1: sense that they are attractive or that they're talented or
- 31:27Speaker 1: everything else, but you add all of that with a
- 31:29Speaker 1: spirit that is just kind of engaging to people. She's
- 31:34Speaker 1: that person. And it actually reminds me of the person
- 31:39Speaker 1: that I feel like I kind of feel the worst
- 31:41Speaker 1: for in all of this. And I don't know Who
- 31:45Speaker 1: exactly that person is. But that person's out there. And
- 31:51Speaker 1: that person's been there for a very long time. And
- 31:55Speaker 1: they've been waiting and they've been telling people for the longest.
- 31:59Speaker 1: And that is the one person in this world who
- 32:02Speaker 1: hates Dolly Parton's guts. You don't know who it is,
- 32:07Speaker 1: but it's somebody out there.
- 32:08Speaker 2: They're not telling on themselves now.
- 32:10Speaker 1: They're sitting right next to the person that hates Steph
- 32:12Speaker 1: Curry and just been sitting around, just been like, one
- 32:15Speaker 1: day y'all gonna see. I've been telling y'all, one day
- 32:18Speaker 1: y'all really following. You can't see through this? I'm telling you,
- 32:22Speaker 1: one day y'all gonna see what she's really like and
- 32:25Speaker 1: have been waiting the whole way to find out. She
- 32:27Speaker 1: lived to 80 and she died and we got no indication,
- 32:31Speaker 1: not even a hint. that she was anything other than wonderful, right?
- 32:39Speaker 1: So like, okay, she's pretty, she's stacked, she can write,
- 32:43Speaker 1: she can sing, she has a charitable heart, all of
- 32:47Speaker 1: these things. And there's somebody who's over there like, hey,
- 32:51Speaker 1: truth will come out. Truth is going to come out.
- 32:53Speaker 1: It never did. It never happened. Feel bad for that person.
- 32:57Speaker 1: Because that person know they can't say nothing now. Like
- 32:59Speaker 1: they've been saying this shit for years and years. Their
- 33:01Speaker 1: friends like, don't bring up Dolly around her. Don't bring
- 33:03Speaker 1: up Dolly around her. And now they just sitting there like,
- 33:06Speaker 1: I can't say nothing ever again. Can't say nothing bad
- 33:08Speaker 1: about dead people. I don't know what I'm supposed to do.
- 33:11Speaker 1: But it's somebody over there.
- 33:12Speaker 2: Salty.
- 33:12Speaker 1: Because I can't, there was no yeah but on this.
- 33:16Speaker 2: Dolly thinks she works so hard she only works nine
- 33:18Speaker 2: to five.
- 33:19Speaker 1: Yeah, if I say nine to five, I ain't never
- 33:21Speaker 1: work nine to five. Let me tell you this though.
- 33:25Speaker 1: There probably are some yeah buts on Dolly. Just don't
- 33:27Speaker 1: nobody want to talk about it.
- 33:28Speaker 2: Not anymore, they're not.
- 33:29Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. Not even then. It's just like,
- 33:31Speaker 1: why would I? When did all these black people start
- 33:34Speaker 1: being these big Dolly? I said when she died, I
- 33:37Speaker 1: was like, your black girlfriend who went to a white
- 33:41Speaker 1: school is not okay. She is not okay right now.
- 33:45Speaker 1: Black people, boy, we'd be so happy to get a
- 33:47Speaker 1: white person that we feel likes us. Or just basic tolerance. Boy,
- 33:51Speaker 1: the black love around Dolly Parton, I ain't never heard
- 33:54Speaker 1: a note of Dolly Parton's music in no black person's house, car, walk, man.
- 33:59Speaker 1: None of that. Never. Never. Man, please. We may rename
- 34:04Speaker 1: the cookout after Dolly Parton for what I've seen. As
- 34:06Speaker 1: she died, that's how much love Dolly Parton was getting. Gee,
- 34:09Speaker 1: they were probably doing it in Spanish, too. I don't know.
- 34:11Speaker 1: I ain't never seen nobody that everybody was just so
- 34:14Speaker 1: happy about.
- 34:15Speaker 2: Ever.
- 34:15Speaker 1: Ever.
- 34:16Speaker 2: Ever.
- 34:17Speaker 1: Moral of the story, Ryan, I'm going to send it
- 34:19Speaker 1: to you, and you can decide if we should say
- 34:21Speaker 1: it out loud.
- 34:24Speaker 2: Nope. Okay. Hard no. This is going to be an
- 34:31Speaker 2: interesting transition. The Athletic released a report that Diana Rossini's
- 34:35Speaker 2: relationship with Vrabel violated newsroom standards but showed no clear
- 34:38Speaker 2: bias to the coach. There are reports that her sports
- 34:42Speaker 2: media career is planning a comeback in the next few
- 34:46Speaker 2: weeks or so. But what was your reaction to the story?
- 34:49Speaker 1: Did you notice what day they released this news?
- 34:52Speaker 2: Is this the same day as the Kawhi?
- 34:55Speaker 1: It was the day after. It was the day after.
- 35:00Speaker 2: I always am impressed when a news organization knows who
- 35:04Speaker 2: hates news dumps knows how to news dump their own news.
- 35:06Speaker 1: <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL>
- 35:09Speaker 1: I think it was the day after. But it was
- 35:10Speaker 1: in this time. An important detail for those who don't know.
- 35:15Speaker 1: is that Pablo's podcast is licensed by the athlete. Yes.
- 35:19Speaker 1: So that's what everything's going on over there.
- 35:21Speaker 2: Woo-hoo! We was right!
- 35:22Speaker 1: We was right! And slide that across the table right quick.
- 35:26Speaker 1: But I love it. It was like the relationship was improper,
- 35:29Speaker 1: but the coverage was fair, which I firmly believe. Agreed.
- 35:33Speaker 1: I think that that was true. As I said, I
- 35:38Speaker 1: don't really want to get into the journalism of it
- 35:40Speaker 1: because I don't know what to think about the next part.
- 35:43Speaker 1: I really don't. What a time, brother. What a time.
- 35:47Speaker 2: What a time. All right. Staying in sports media, Tony
- 35:51Speaker 2: Romo was arrested while we were on vacation for OWI.
- 35:54Speaker 2: He's been placed on leave by CBS. He said in
- 35:57Speaker 2: a statement, this morning I faced a recent personal failure
- 36:01Speaker 2: by pleading no contest to civil offense for OWI in Wisconsin.
- 36:03Speaker 2: I own this completely. As I return my attention to
- 36:06Speaker 2: my health, my family, and in time, my return to CBS,
- 36:09Speaker 2: I kindly ask for privacy during this period. God bless.
- 36:14Speaker 1: All right, so OWI is, I don't know if it's
- 36:17Speaker 1: exactly DWI in other places, but it is drinking and driving. Yes.
- 36:21Speaker 1: It's a crime associated with that. CBS, it seems, is like, ooh,
- 36:28Speaker 1: we can get out from under this contract. It's wild
- 36:33Speaker 1: how everything turned on him.
- 36:35Speaker 2: Yes.
- 36:35Speaker 1: So quickly. He was a darling and turned that into
- 36:38Speaker 1: a gazillion dollar contract. And then it's nothing's been the
- 36:43Speaker 1: same since.
- 36:43Speaker 2: Yeah, it is fascinating how, you know, the rise and
- 36:48Speaker 2: fall of someone who's like, you know, I think he
- 36:51Speaker 2: got like, what, $ 18 million a year?
- 36:52Speaker 1: He changed the whole game. Yeah. Like, then Joe Buck
- 36:57Speaker 1: and Troy Aikman started getting that much money. He completely...
- 37:01Speaker 1: he completely reset the market for that job. And now
- 37:04Speaker 1: they can't wait. Cause he put out that statement about,
- 37:07Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to come back. And that don't sound
- 37:09Speaker 1: like what his bosses are talking about at all. Yeah.
- 37:12Speaker 2: I don't think you, uh, you know, especially in season,
- 37:16Speaker 2: make that change.
- 37:18Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no. Like he's like, he's
- 37:20Speaker 1: not going to call any games this year. Right.
- 37:21Speaker 2: No chance.
- 37:22Speaker 1: I feel pretty confident about that.
- 37:24Speaker 2: Um, and finally, uh, we had a situation where, AI
- 37:29Speaker 2: was creating rogue civilizations and turning on each other at
- 37:35Speaker 2: hiding this, of course, from the open, it's, you know,
- 37:39Speaker 2: open code. And, well, it's one of our favorite hobby courses.
- 37:45Speaker 1: I keep trying to explain this to people. Everybody who's
- 37:50Speaker 1: telling you the dangers of this, they are also downplaying it.
- 37:57Speaker 1: They don't want to sound crazy, but it's getting to
- 37:59Speaker 1: a point where, yo, we just want to sound the alarm, guys.
- 38:02Speaker 1: It's a lot going on here. Right.
- 38:08Speaker 2: It's a little scary. Yeah, I mean, I've read the
- 38:15Speaker 2: story twice. I have a hard time understanding what rogue
- 38:19Speaker 2: AI civilizations mean, but I'm telling you, I'm terrified.
- 38:25Speaker 1: Yes. I didn't know what it was either. I just
- 38:28Speaker 1: saw wiped each other out. Yes. That was all I
- 38:31Speaker 1: needed to know in order for me to know. That's bad.
- 38:34Speaker 2: Yes.
- 38:35Speaker 1: That's very, very, very rut row bad.
- 38:39Speaker 2: Yes.
- 38:40Speaker 1: Yikes.
- 38:41Speaker 2: But hey, ladies and.
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