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Safe Seats Exposed: Gerrymandering's Grip on Voter Power and Reform Paths · Solving America's Problems

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Alex: Jerremy
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Alex: presses
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Alex: Rob
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Alex: on
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Alex: Voting
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Alex: Rights
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Alex: Act
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Alex: fallout,
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Alex: as
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Alex: protections
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Alex: crumble
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Alex: under
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Alex: court
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Alex: scrutiny.
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Alex: The
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Alex: looming
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Alex: shadow?
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Alex: If
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Alex: safe
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Alex: seats
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Alex: fuel
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Alex: polarization,
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Alex: voters'
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Alex: real
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Alex: power
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Alex: fades—yet
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Alex: one
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Alex: overlooked
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Alex: fix
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Alex: still
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Alex: hangs
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Alex: in
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Alex: the
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Alex: balance.
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Jerremy: Rob,
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Jerremy: your
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Jerremy: invention
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Jerremy: of
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Jerremy: the
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Jerremy: partisan
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Jerremy: voting
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Jerremy: index
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Jerremy: revealed
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Jerremy: distortions
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Jerremy: in
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Jerremy: winter,
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Jerremy: take
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Jerremy: all
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Jerremy: systems,
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Jerremy: which
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Jerremy: you've
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Jerremy: mentioned
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Jerremy: couple
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Jerremy: times
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Jerremy: surprises
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Jerremy: from
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Jerremy: that
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Jerremy: data
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Jerremy: challenge
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Jerremy: assumptions
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Jerremy: about
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Jerremy: reform
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Jerremy: feasibility
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Jerremy: for
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Jerremy: individuals
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Jerremy: feeling
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Jerremy: unrepresented.
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