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Sila Puhl, Audrey Black, Amelia Ritthaler, & Kyle Gordon - We make sock puppets · Bug Hive with Benny Feldman

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  what's up
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  gang hey what's up good to have you guys
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  here good to be here here that's the
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  Unison that was cool we got a cool
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  situation here where ca brought some
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  socks some old socks so we're going to
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  be doing some puppets yeah let's do that
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  [ __ ] immediately dude sweet I'm pretty
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  everybody ack I'm scared of the glue gun
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  I'll say that the people with smaller
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  hands should take the ankle socks oh
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  yeah okay okay I'll take this I'm being
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  yeah definitely not me
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  so you want the oh [ __ ] yeah okay okay
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  donuts oh these are like
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  uh and be care be careful with the hot
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  glue and the holes that they oh yeah so
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  I would say maybe don't hot glue it
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  while it's on your hand but while it's
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  on your hand feel free to I don't know
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  you know how puppets works you have to
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  place place it I actually don't think I
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  do I think as we start to build them we
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  can determine their relationships with
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  each other but we need to see
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  first absolutely wait can I already glue
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  yeah I haven't start you know I didn't
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  plug this in so uh start start start you
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  want to glue something immediately you
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  got an idea I want to do eyes first oh
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  [ __ ] we got googly eyes we got with the
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  soul one second look it in the eyes you
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  can tell me who he is okay so actually
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  wait are all the googly guys the same
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  there's a no there's different sizes
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  much really small ones there's really
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  big ones [ __ ] oh I'm going to mix and
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  match I was thinking that too I I'll
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  introduce my guests once they have their
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  puppets and I'll introduce them by their
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  puppets oh I had just made that up just
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  now um the plug is actually behind you
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  uh on that floor there you want to see
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  if you can well you just it just has to
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  be the plug part and I'll keep the gun
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  over here is that reach oh
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  yeah super tiny great so this is going
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  to get hot right here this is the glue
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  gun placement thingy I kind of had a c
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  once it starts to smell weird that's
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  when we get glue it
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  awesome I'm thinking
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  [ __ ] four
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  eyes that's awesome and then if it gets
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  I love that yeah yeah I feel like you
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  need to start with the eyes and then
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  that really once you know his or her
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  character then you can you you the eyes
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  really tell you a lot about where you go
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  with it you know you got to get the yeah
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  you got to get the gateway to the soul
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  are there holes in some of these scks
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  cuz that's like yeah there definitely
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  are I mean they've lived a full
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  life I'm trying to think about any
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  specific anecdotes in these songs wait
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  until wait until it smells weird yeah
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  yeah yeah wait until it
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  smells he jumped G I like this it this
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  probably the brand but it it's just
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  donuts and then it says
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  Coney wait like con 2012 yeah literally
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  exactly like con
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  2012 you guys remember how that was like
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  um actually fake and he's in jail yeah
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  wait I thought he was he had like a
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  pretty big meltdown oh well that yeah R
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  through the street naked or something
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  yes I remember that very very very well
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  I and I might be wrong but I don't think
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  it was necessarily that it was intended
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  to be fake but that they got so in over
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  their heads when they got on Oprah and
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  they got so much more money yeah they
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  got a mention on Oprah I think was how
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  it became super viral and then it was
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  this small nonprofit that basically just
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  been started and so the man running it
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  the pressure of like TR suddenly having
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  to deal with all this money and like not
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  really having an effective plan to deal
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  with Joseph Cony meant that the money
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  was mishandled and he had like a
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  complete mental breakdown and then he
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  did run around and
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  this is like when girls blow up on
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  YouTube too young and then it's like
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  Zoel is like I just wanted to date Alfie
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  like I never wanted to be in Target also
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  such an amazing example of how people do
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  not fact check yeah ever yeah yeah yeah
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  yeah yeah but con was like for real a he
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  was a real bad guy bad guy doing real
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  bad stuff yes but I think the thing was
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  that was like the money couldn't have
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  done anything it's like yeah like how
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  does the money stop well no I think what
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  was was that so this guy was like a film
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  student and then was like I want to make
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  a difference and this is like 2006 and
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  he started this project in like I'm
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  making it up but like a long 2006 and
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  con was really bad but by the time he
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  finished his mov movie they kind of had
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  like dealt with him mostly so like it
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  wasn't really that bit so like people in
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  um what was it was ug where was where it
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  was Uganda right I can't remember yeah
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  but like where yeah yeah shows what we
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  know about but like or or I forget but
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  uh anyways the the the severity of the
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  problem had gotten much less and he was
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  kind of like it wasn't that big of a
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  issue anymore and so they were like the
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  people on the ground were like we have
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  like a thousand other things that are
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  way more important than this right now
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  and then like every celebrity in the
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  world was at least that's what I
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  remember about it do you think stop Cony
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  would blow up
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  now our
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  thing or like we we could we could
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  finally deal with it
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  once yeah it's about time um no like
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  could a stop Cony like viral campaign
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  blow up today I don't think here's the
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  thought I think it was the peak of like
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  Obama era neoliberal huis yeah yeah
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  because it was 2012 so it was like the
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  middle of Obama's yeah uh entire
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  presidency and like purest example of
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  that person cist it really was like
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  everybody thought we'd solved everything
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  wrong with
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  America and they're like well let's
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  think about cone now you know maso's
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  hierarchy it's like we had we were like
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  all right we're done self aiz now it's
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  time to do Transcendence to others or
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  something little did we know what would
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  happen in
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  2025 I think they were like literally
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  like look at the power of Facebook for
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  good like they were like look what
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  Facebook can do it is it's working it's
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  solving problems
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  Facebook I feel like stop con inspired
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  Russia I'm going to need I'm going to
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  need you I'm going to need you to I need
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  you to Oh you mean like okay Russia 2016
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  yeah they were like let's think back
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  they saw the power of the hashtag yeah I
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  it had it had a really good pop song
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  what did like the the two-minute video
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  about con to like really get people
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  people excited was like an epic like it
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  was kind of like Christian Pop like
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  church like you can change the world
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  like but it's got a beat so it was like
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  really attractive I don't remember this
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  I I just remember the shirts and like
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  the signage oh it got it had a drum it
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  had to be I remember being like wow this
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  really is
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  powerful yeah maybe more movements
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  should have like like a specific song
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  that
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  slaps I think they're really trying to
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  do that do you remember the Pete Buddha
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  judge um high high hopes and then you
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  just have this crowd ofar white people
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  dancing to disco or whatever it was I
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  think it doesn't totally play I think it
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  doesn't totally play let's see what's
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  happening here bud should have written
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  his own song yeah also his husband is
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  famous a musical theater so he could
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  have ch is a musical theater head
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  theater smell a little weird not like
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  professionally but he's such a musical
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  theater head that that oneid right there
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  done [ __ ] so I have a Sy I know if I'm
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  as up about yeah we got an eye ready to
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  go here you got something ready to go
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  here I'm I'm going to see where these
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  Sharpies take me while the uh Google The
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  Google the blue gun get get in there
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  watch out this is wet right here and uh
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  I don't know yeah and then watch out for
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  the hot chocolate I know what I'm going
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  to do yeah okay you could you could feel
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  free whoever Z is you can feel free to
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  put it on that shelf if you want to
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  you're going to empower me to put it on
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  that shelf you can you can you don't
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  worry about mind the knickknacks and all
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  the [ __ ] there's also more [ __ ]
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  if we wanted to rope it into the oh my
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  God wait it's not really coming out at
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  all oh wait point it so it's like might
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  need of glue it's almost out oh yeah
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  yeah yeah do you want to get another uh
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  hurry girl hurry it's going to
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  dry
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  girlit stop it's like a you continue to
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  pump it oh I see see it's it's there's
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  only a little I think you got to push a
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  new one in another yeah do we have hold
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  on over here oh my God it's uh I think
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  it's I think it's where where you just
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  put the hot chocolate there's a bunch of
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  them right behind there it is there it
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  is nice but girl this one's going to dry
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  out you got to stick the eye on that one
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  oh you're right you're right [ __ ] [ __ ]
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  F
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  hurry yeah nice yeah yeah yeah and so
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  for people listening on audio a goo ey
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  was just sat on
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  the love the glue it's giving very
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  monstrous ink I know yeah are you
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  thinking Cyclops or oh it's too big I'm
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  sorry the glob of glue is too big for
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  the size of eye I've chosen and there a
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  beautiful metaphor there oh yeah that's
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  a really good moner you're
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  doing oh [ __ ] I love the end up we've
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  all seen monster Inc right yeah at the
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  end where they're like yeah now we do
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  standup
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  comedy you guys remember that that's how
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  it ends well you know what at Disney
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  World the the there's like The Laughing
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  Studio where like the green guy has to
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  do standup comedy and that's the ride
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  that's the end yeah that's the end of
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  the movie yeah and um he's really good
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  at it is his name Mike rowski Mike
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  wasowski Mike wasowski my mom loves that
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  ride like loves she's like let's go sit
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  in the room he's going to be so silly
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  and I'm like I think you'd love improv
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  comedy that's all that's happening where
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  where is it at it's in tomorrow land in
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  the Magic Kingdom in Orlando Florida so
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  your mom's favorite comedian is the Mike
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  wasowski at yes that's she's like this
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  guy eats it up every time yeah he
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  crushes it's got to be tough like uh you
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  don't you hate where you like you do a
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  show and they don't tell the bar that
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  you're performing an an ambush show
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  that's what they're doing at the end of
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  Mike wasowski coming to your room and
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  now you're
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  like [ __ ] God damn it I'm trying to
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  sleep no that's but they're all Psych
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  that's like a Mike wasowski drop in like
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  oh he's here
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  you and I did a horrible we did oh yes
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  oh yeah we did an ambush show together
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  not too long that was yeah you're
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  exactly right it was you said it was an
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  ambush show Ambush show the crowd well I
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  think it was a very interesting cuz we
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  were ambushing the street cuz it was in
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  the summer and it was open to the street
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  and there was like it's a small bar so
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  there it would there weren't that many
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  people in the bar but the street was
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  busy and the everything was open so and
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  the the mics were really loud and so it
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  was sort of people walking by and we
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  ambushed the city well you know what
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  chapone did that with Pink Pony Club in
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  the park in La and look at her
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  now you know what that's true that's
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  what I was that's also what I was doing
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  baby boy I love that oh that's very
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  sweetow I like that oh my goodness
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  really nice do you have scissors Benny
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  yeah yeah they're a similar shelf um
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  back that way the red one's going to be
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  good for okay our purposes here [ __ ]
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  [ __ ]
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  yeah you guys ever do a like a horrible
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  Ambush show it feels like all of them
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  are was a particularly bad one well
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  actually um I did that room again and uh
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  Natalie Roder lman uh was there and this
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  guy this like some Manhattan comic uh
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  basically like there's this group of
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  people who were outside on sitting at
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  that outside table and they were like
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  they were chatting cuz they were just
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  there for the bar and he tore into them
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  he's like shut the [ __ ] up he was like
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  he called them like [ __ ] and whatnot
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  and like or he he he was like he said it
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  was so bad that he was like we need to
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  get like a muzzle on you my God and
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  shout out to Natalie she went up right
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  after and she was like that guy's the
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  worst right
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  yeah I mean yeah cuz Not only was he
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  being rude he was like objectively wrong
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  about like what normal behavior is you
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  are
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  uninvited they come here probably a lot
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  yeah yeah and I guess I'm just going I'm
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  going to broaden that idea too um
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  sometimes I feel like I see people do
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  crowd work or something where I'm like
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  oh you are way overreacting and
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  overstepping I don't know how do you
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  guys feel I feel like all crowd work is
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  like you're a dentist and it's like who
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  like it is just like they'll say
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  anything and they'll be like that's so
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  [ __ ] stupid and
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  crazy is it or are they just like a
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  teacher um one time I did it was an
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  Asian show in Chinatown and okay I got
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  really hot glue on my thumb you
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  okay at the show or just now right now
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  that's okay that's okay but this is
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  going to be oh my God
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  no this is going to be so worth it um
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  okay so anyways we did the show it was
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  truly all in all Asian audience except
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  for one white guy and in the front so
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  obviously everyone was going in on him
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  and he got actually pissed by the end
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  but then it was like kind of a lose lose
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  situation for him because he was also
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  the only white guy at the Asian show and
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  he was getting pissed so now he's the
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  angry only
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  white but I did feel bad for him because
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  I was like everyone is going after you
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  and that because it's so easy but I was
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  like maybe we should stop and then one
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  person towards the end tried to like
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  finally make amends with him on behalf
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  of sort of everyone who had gone before
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  him on the lineup and he was not having
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  it he was like not talking to him at all
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  and was I was like that point I was like
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  honestly sure
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  yeah yeah I I can't think of a like a
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  time where I've seen someone get crowd
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  worked on where they like really got
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  visibly or vocally like upset I'm trying
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  to think about time when that happened
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  but I that I feel I feel like I have
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  seen I've seen people have contentious
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  relationships
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  yeah and and when they try to be funny
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  I yeah I once went to a show in La like
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  um during covid on a first date and the
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  guy was like um being he was being kind
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  of offensive and I was like Front Row
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  one drink in like not laughing like I
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  was being like a rude audience member
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  cuz I was like this is bad for women I
• 14:54
  hate you and he was like why aren't you
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  why are you frowning and I literally was
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  like cuz you're being problematic and
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  then like we had this whole like Rift I
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  of course never heard from the date
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  again and it's like I ended up being
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  like drunk aggressive towards the comic
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  being like um you shouldn't stand on the
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  stage and say that about them like that
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  woman is fine and stop making fun of her
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  that's awesome that rules I like that
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  you did that but then after the show I
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  run into him in the street I'm crossing
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  the street as he is in his car and he's
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  like I'm really sorry I upset you like
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  I'm just a really sad lonely guy
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  and I was like that's okay I it's not an
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  excuse I was I was like so in shock that
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  I was like that's okay I'm sorry that I
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  was acting so aggressive and he was like
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  it's okay and then he drove away then I
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  was like I got to get out of the LA I
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  got to get I got to get to New York um
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  one time I did a really small bar show
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  where like it was there's just like not
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  a lot of people there and I showed up
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  and the other Comics showed up and like
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  halfway through the first person set
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  these two men entered from a door that I
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  to this day cannot figure out how they
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  entered from because it like leads to an
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  employees only area um they entered they
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  sat down and then they interrupted the
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  comic to go I want to pause you real
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  quick Amelia that's be
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  careful okay I don't want you to get the
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  glue on your
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  sorry that's I think you did a little
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  bit there watch out on see that makes
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  the lines coming off okay sorry sorry
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  fire with fire okay okay okay sorry
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  about that this fella this fella came in
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  through a door um the two guys came in
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  through this door and I I don't
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  understand how they got in through that
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  entrance or why they were at the comedy
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  show or how they found out about the
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  show because the first thing they said
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  they interrupted the first comic and
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  then just said we don't speak great
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  English we're Italian and then that's a
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  really good excuse actually yeah but
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  then like every comic that went up they
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  would sort of like actively be asking
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  the comic like wait what does that word
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  mean what do you mean and they so CL and
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  there were not enough people in the room
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  for it to be obvious to someone who
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  hadn't been to a show before that that
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  wasn't appropriate oh that's so fun um
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  and they basically just ask for basic
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  bab at a certain
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  point
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  wow I do think it's sometimes fun to
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  have or I'm not a crowdwork person at
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  all but I want it's a skill I want to
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  practice but it's so hard to find an
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  environment in which that feels
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  acceptable or okay so sometimes when
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  someone's like a dumb Heckler it's kind
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  of it can be fun yeah this is hot I told
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  Amilia to be careful and now I'm yeah
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  you told Amia to be careful and then
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  you're like moving the hot glue with
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  your hands I know I know I'm like all
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  love Benny but I kind of professionally
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  was a hot glue Gunner you really
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  School were you a big I was a big
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  crafter are you a big crafter I was just
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  like I went crazy for homecoming moms oh
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  my god well this is something I think
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  only we know you guys know about this
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  about moms homecoming so in Texas for
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  like the high school homecoming football
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  game there's this thing where you make
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  mums for your significant other it's
• 18:02
  short for chrysanthemum and it's this
• 18:04
  big fake flower that at the homecoming
• 18:06
  game you pin to your homecoming dates
• 18:08
  chest and she has to wear it and like
• 18:11
  they go crazy they could be the size of
• 18:12
  a person with like teddy bears and
• 18:13
  flowers attached what the hell like it
• 18:15
  usually would just be like kind of like
• 18:17
  maybe the size of a fist with some
• 18:19
  ribbons hanging off but like
• 18:20
  everything's bigger in Texas and it's
• 18:22
  kind of like a like does your man care
• 18:24
  about you or like you care about like
• 18:26
  whatever like do they care if you die
• 18:29
  and it's like if if they give you like
• 18:31
  um scrawny one that only cost $40 it's
• 18:34
  like oh you should kill yourself yeah
• 18:37
  then but then girls end up wearing like
• 18:39
  them instead of being pinned on they
• 18:40
  wear giant like ne ne and they weigh
• 18:44
  like 4050 lb of ribbons and glitter and
• 18:47
  like teddy bears and it's like my
• 18:49
  boyfriend loves me well and it's like
• 18:51
  it's supposed to be a sign that your
• 18:52
  date like to you but obviously his mom
• 18:54
  made it you know like obviously his mom
• 18:56
  made it and bought it for him because
• 18:58
  she wanted a bigger mom when she was a
• 19:00
  high schooler in Texas was your was your
• 19:02
  school like all the girls would give
• 19:05
  them to each other too no but we weren't
• 19:07
  I didn't go to a co-ed school so it was
• 19:10
  like if you hung out with the boy school
• 19:12
  you got a mom and there were a lot of
• 19:13
  girls that didn't want to do that and
• 19:14
  we're not in that homecoming culture I
• 19:17
  feel like yeah I think I [ __ ] it up so
• 19:19
  we I didn't never make them oh [ __ ] it's
• 19:21
  hot made them and it was like for friend
• 19:24
  group so You' have to make like eight or
• 19:27
  something and then it's like oh you're
• 19:30
  literally a loser with no friends if you
• 19:31
  have less than five moms on that of
• 19:33
  course it was it was intense down
• 19:37
  there yeah there's a lot of um status
• 19:41
  symbols um and many are craft based
• 19:45
  legit so you come from a craft
• 19:47
  background I all this to say I I come
• 19:50
  from a craft culture cult really values
• 19:52
  crafting I learned about hot glue's
• 19:54
  power when I was very young yeah yeah
• 19:56
  yeah yeah at my school at my colle
• 19:58
  College they had like a there was like a
• 20:00
  big Greek life and they had like the old
• 20:02
  school like pinning thing with like
• 20:04
  couples like pre-engagement stuff and so
• 20:07
  you'd see like you walk out on the quad
• 20:08
  like oh this whatever these people got
• 20:10
  pinned and it was like a whole thing and
• 20:12
  my roommate was this really cynical guy
• 20:15
  from Georgia the country and
• 20:18
  he the nation of Georgia
• 20:21
  tii they have that oh yeah yeah the
• 20:25
  nation of Georgia did you guys all know
• 20:26
  about the nation of Georgia yeah it's a
• 20:28
  culture I actually visited a few months
• 20:30
  ago I can tell you all about it we can
• 20:31
  heard that don't temp me I'll derail
• 20:32
  this whole podcast do not temp me where
• 20:35
  where is it uh right uh right next to
• 20:38
  aeran and Armenia south of Russia the
• 20:40
  caucus wow the CAU mountains Russia
• 20:42
  keeps it's like Russia keeps taking
• 20:46
  them yeah I will get it political about
• 20:49
  uh uh the geopolitical Integrity of
• 20:52
  Georgia's
• 20:53
  borders uh but uh yeah but my roommate
• 20:57
  was from Georgia and he he was like he's
• 20:59
  like what's going on and someone was
• 21:01
  like uh oh yeah they're doing like
• 21:03
  pinning and he was like pinning what's
• 21:05
  that you like love somebody and you give
• 21:07
  them your PIN
• 21:11
  number I love that that is a real sign
• 21:15
  of Love yeah so you give them like your
• 21:17
  pen number one of my like oldest closest
• 21:21
  friends she is now a cyber security
• 21:23
  consultant in the sixth grade put her
• 21:25
  phone number in my phone and then you
• 21:27
  know how like the contact different
• 21:29
  options where you can like do address
• 21:30
  Birthday notes they used to have a thing
• 21:32
  that was social security number and I
• 21:33
  remember her going oh well I know mine
• 21:35
  I'll give you that too and she bought
• 21:36
  her social security number in her
• 21:37
  contact in my phone and I had that for
• 21:40
  so long and she fully is like a cyber
• 21:42
  security consultant now and sometimes
• 21:45
  I'll be like remember when you gave me
• 21:46
  your Social Security number for where uh
• 21:49
  PWC used to be but aren't they the ones
• 21:53
  who do the Oscars like aren't they the
• 21:55
  people who [ __ ] up the Oscars remember
• 21:57
  they might what went wrong with the
• 21:59
  Oscars when they the movies I wanted to
• 22:02
  win ago and they said land and it wasn't
• 22:06
  envelope they [ __ ] up the envelope Oh
• 22:08
  Oh I thought it was a reading issue no
• 22:11
  he was he had he was given the wrong
• 22:12
  envelope and
• 22:14
  um then it was because the the there's
• 22:18
  like a consulting firm that's in charge
• 22:20
  of maybe it was your counting the votes
• 22:22
  yeah maybe it was my friend um Counting
• 22:25
  the votes and delivering it in a
• 22:26
  suitcase and like giving them the right
• 22:27
  one um
• 22:29
  I think there was something about
• 22:30
  reading it but they were also given like
• 22:32
  the wrong card they were given yeah it
• 22:34
  was like Emma Stone best actress right
• 22:37
  oh that's what it was they gave them a
• 22:38
  card for a different award so instead of
• 22:41
  it being the card for best picture it's
• 22:42
  the card for best actress so they read
• 22:45
  La La Land off the card it's so cool
• 22:48
  when it was like that and the Ellen like
• 22:51
  celebrity selfie and that was like what
• 22:53
  we had up to we're coming back to con
• 22:55
  2012 a little yeah like I'm like I long
• 22:58
  for the mid-2010s pop
• 23:00
  culture I I was very sheltered growing
• 23:03
  up like I wasn't really allowed to watch
• 23:05
  TV and so once I was able to like learn
• 23:08
  about pop culture i devoured it like I I
• 23:11
  truly believe there's an A to B on me
• 23:13
  not being allowed to watch SpongeBob and
• 23:15
  me knowing the name of every Kardashian
• 23:16
  grandchild was it no TV or were they
• 23:20
  like kids here's actually the crazy
• 23:22
  thing is that my parents were very
• 23:24
  worried specifically about the TV that
• 23:25
  was for my age group so I wasn't alled
• 23:28
  to watch Disney Channel cuz they said it
• 23:29
  would make me rude and um I wasn't
• 23:32
  allowed to watch Nickelodeon because
• 23:34
  they said it would make me stupid so
• 23:36
  they were like you can watch the TV that
• 23:38
  we grew up with which means that I
• 23:41
  haven't seen much of Sweet Life on Deck
• 23:43
  or whatever but I've seen every episode
• 23:45
  of The Brady Bunch and The Cosby Show
• 23:48
  that's so I was allowed to watch every
• 23:50
  episode of The Cosby
• 23:53
  Show and what lessons did that teach you
• 23:55
  I don't think I've ever seen a full
• 23:56
  episode of The Cosby Show the only one
• 23:57
  I've seen is the one where um Herby
• 24:00
  Hancock teaches him how to use the
• 24:02
  synthesizer did you see that one jaming
• 24:04
  on the one
• 24:06
  don't you got to get up on your coffee
• 24:08
  show saying from someone who's only seen
• 24:10
  one the one episode there are like many
• 24:13
  many seasons of it I haven't seen a
• 24:14
  single episode long time I've not seen
• 24:16
  it I also was not allowed to watch
• 24:17
  Disney Channel cuz my mom thought that
• 24:19
  it would make me only talk about
• 24:21
  boys and I also wasn't allowed to have
• 24:23
  Barbies for a SIM for I also wasn't
• 24:26
  allowed to I was allowed to have brats
• 24:28
  cuz they were [ __ ] yeah quote my mother
• 24:31
  yeah yeah yeah yeah no I I mean
• 24:32
  absolutely I wasn't allowed to have
• 24:33
  Barbies or brats my mother in a very um
• 24:36
  polite way did say basically the same
• 24:38
  thing and now we're finally making our
• 24:40
  own
• 24:42
  yeah this is a yeah I wasn't allowed to
• 24:44
  do craft based puppetry growing up cuz I
• 24:47
  they were too
• 24:50
  [ __ ] wow whoa who okay look at these
• 24:55
  oh my God you've been sharpening yours
• 24:56
  you can do you do a damn yeah we got a
• 25:00
  he has to dress up for work but he gets
• 25:02
  a little fun with it and your fingers a
• 25:04
  top let's introduce Our Guest this week
• 25:06
  folks
• 25:07
  uh I'm the host I'm the host of the I'm
• 25:10
  the host of the
• 25:11
  podcast um the Marge Simpsons
• 25:16
  fetus something like that that one um
• 25:18
  you know you can just introduce
• 25:19
  yourselves and also or your puppet
• 25:21
  whichever okay hello who we got here
• 25:24
  this is Bogo this is a tongue buy one
• 25:27
  get one
• 25:29
  that's good I love that oh my
• 25:34
  goodness the M sorry this is Sheila
• 25:38
  that's
• 25:41
  talking um mine's a baby who and and he
• 25:45
  wants everyone to just say baby cuz he
• 25:47
  doesn't pick the name um he's only 15
• 25:51
  minutes old oh my goodness he a baby and
• 25:54
  I'm
• 25:56
  Audrey hey guys I'm Amelia I don't
• 26:00
  really think I know about the anatomy of
• 26:02
  sock puppet because I can't open its
• 26:06
  mouth I could just close its
• 26:08
  forehead uh I'm going to call this
• 26:11
  Crystal Crystal Light Crystal
• 26:15
  Light um I'm Kyle Gordon and this is uh
• 26:18
  my puppet um his name is Brian
• 26:21
  Kerwin yeah of course what do all the
• 26:24
  puppets do for a living I feel like uh
• 26:26
  this one's has a job yeah yeah this one
• 26:28
  unemployed perhaps no this is one of
• 26:30
  those um you know when you see a movie
• 26:33
  and they have a new newborn in the movie
• 26:35
  and you're like did the mom like
• 26:36
  immediately get that baby an agent it's
• 26:38
  just one of those babies yeah I'm trying
• 26:41
  to get him in a Marvel movie do you
• 26:43
  think they cover those babies with fake
• 26:47
  blood I do I mean it's like they come
• 26:51
  like they're trying to show a birth on
• 26:53
  TV and then they show a newborn
• 26:55
  obviously they're like 6 weeks old cuz
• 26:56
  you're like that's a big [ __ ] baby
• 26:58
  every single time but then you're like
• 27:00
  do they have to cover it in like
• 27:02
  placenta juice like what's going on I
• 27:04
  honestly literally thought they had like
• 27:06
  a deal with mothers and would just film
• 27:09
  brand new babies but that makes way more
• 27:10
  sense
• 27:12
  follywood
• 27:16
  deal crazy I don't know I don't know I
• 27:18
  don't know that you I never thought
• 27:20
  about it that makes
• 27:21
  sense wait what does crystal do for a
• 27:23
  living oh Crystal doesn't have to work
• 27:28
  um no she's part of the social light
• 27:30
  class she's just hanging
• 27:32
  out she's a Rockefeller dime squared
• 27:36
  yeah you can catch her at brunch every
• 27:38
  single day sing what does BOGO do um
• 27:43
  magic
• 27:45
  probably
• 27:48
  magic you're not at Liberty to say what
• 27:50
  kind his hair stage stage magic stage
• 27:57
  Magic are they maybe are they are they
• 28:00
  related I think they're Brothers yeah
• 28:03
  they made out and then you said I think
• 28:04
  they're Brothers it's like the way you
• 28:06
  would kiss a baby on the
• 28:10
  mouth over and
• 28:13
  over it's just so fun to make these
• 28:15
  little guys
• 28:17
  kids I kind of Mar's fetus well I put
• 28:21
  the I put the nose there and I realized
• 28:24
  it did like backwards if I was doing
• 28:25
  normal sock puppet so I that forced the
• 28:27
  mouth to be here but I like what that's
• 28:28
  do the body shape I know it's good I
• 28:30
  know I was so that was not deliberate
• 28:33
  not deliberate no I I was intend I was
• 28:35
  intending to do the other way and I've
• 28:37
  never I really feel like I've never seen
• 28:40
  Botox so well accomplished on the sock
• 28:43
  puppet crazy yeah I'm going to yeah I
• 28:46
  kind of like that I'll just keep the
• 28:47
  mouth jaw lines are incredible he he uh
• 28:52
  uh Works in business development for a
• 28:53
  midsize B2B software firm
• 28:58
  where were you when you found out about
• 29:00
  B2B truly like I think at an open mic
• 29:03
  like a year and a half ago someone was
• 29:05
  explaining their job to me and I was
• 29:06
  like I have to look up what that is I
• 29:08
  can't keep hearing this I think I found
• 29:10
  out what BB was on Conan's podcast ad
• 29:14
  reads totally oh yeah there's an amazing
• 29:17
  podcast ad where they're like are you
• 29:19
  B2B or B Toc Shopify I can help you wait
• 29:25
  you think we're good with the glue gun
• 29:26
  cuz I will say we let's unplug itug
• 29:28
  let's do that let's do that great
• 29:30
  appreciate it there's an ad for what
• 29:32
  there's a podcast ad that was like Dad
• 29:36
  like I don't want you to come to school
• 29:37
  for parent day parent job career day
• 29:40
  whatever uh cuz I don't understand your
• 29:42
  job and then it cuts to like people
• 29:44
  don't understand B2B but we do like come
• 29:47
  work with
• 29:49
  us I was just like that's not affecting
• 29:51
  I've heard that one a bunch yeah it's
• 29:53
  it's on like it's on podcasts that I
• 29:56
  listen to where I'm like I cannot
• 29:58
  possibly think they did the correct
• 29:59
  demographic research to put this on this
• 30:01
  podcast where like I am the target
• 30:04
  listener and I am not doing B2B software
• 30:07
  development I I have to do I have to do
• 30:09
  an ad read real quick you guys mind
• 30:11
  we're sponsor by old
• 30:14
  sucks old socks you know how you still
• 30:17
  have those socks use them for something
• 30:19
  old socks use our discount code pu sorry
• 30:25
  I was literally about to say like it's
• 30:26
  funny when you listen to a podcast
• 30:28
  and you can tell by the ads that you are
• 30:30
  not the intended demo like you're the
• 30:32
  only one and you listening to like Mel
• 30:35
  Robins like I listen to so many
• 30:37
  self-help for Mom podcasts and it's like
• 30:40
  is your daughter acting crazy and I'm
• 30:42
  like turning up the
• 30:44
  volume like let me get this but as
• 30:47
  somebody who works in podcast
• 30:49
  advertising I will say they actually
• 30:51
  spend Millions upon millions of dollars
• 30:54
  making sure their ads go to the right
• 30:56
  people so
• 30:58
  oh interesting it's not working it's not
• 31:00
  working I do like the idea of the dad
• 31:02
  coming in for that for the son's like
• 31:05
  parent day or whatever that is very
• 31:07
  funny there's like talking to room at
• 31:09
  kindergarteners I do B2B Enterprise
• 31:13
  Solutions it it is like cool to wonder
• 31:16
  like who is writing these scripts
• 31:21
  yeah now that we have our sock puppets
• 31:24
  done I really love that I'm making it
• 31:27
  I'm making it hold it yeah my hand is
• 31:29
  getting sweaty I'm not going to lie to
• 31:30
  you but they're pretty thin you can take
• 31:32
  it off and
• 31:34
  on no I have to suffer for art
• 31:38
  dude you guys ever um suffer for your
• 31:43
  art your
• 31:44
  face sorry you
• 31:48
  you you like were like I really tried to
• 31:51
  think about it and I actually think I go
• 31:52
  out of my way to be comfortable all the
• 31:54
  time yeah pretty much easy and fun
• 31:56
  always yeah
• 31:58
  it's not easy and fun but I won't I
• 32:01
  really try to not do hard stuff for no
• 32:03
  reason so I don't think I suffer I'll
• 32:05
  even say I don't like it when people
• 32:06
  suffer for their art I don't like their
• 32:09
  art yeah yeah yeah yeah stop doing that
• 32:13
  yeah stop that relax
• 32:16
  anymore I love people who do choose to
• 32:20
  suffer for their art being like I love
• 32:23
  that you enjoy your life like they love
• 32:25
  to like say that you know they're like I
• 32:27
  love that you like balance like your
• 32:29
  goals with like self-care I don't
• 32:32
  because I'm going to be successful and
• 32:34
  it's like yes I agree girl but you're
• 32:37
  also gonna have
• 32:41
  gal also um this is a really serious
• 32:44
  opinion art is meant to Encompass every
• 32:47
  aspect of The Human Experience not just
• 32:50
  suffering woo W so what are you
• 32:54
  suffering foren
• 32:58
  Amen to that you even talking
• 33:01
  about like
• 33:04
  what one of my googly is stuck it
• 33:07
  doesn't move can we have a uh can we
• 33:08
  have a puppet discussion can everybody
• 33:10
  put their puppet on the mic
• 33:12
  please Bo hey I'm just a baby oh my God
• 33:18
  I don't know anything Abracadabra whose
• 33:21
  baby is
• 33:24
  it is this Somebody's Baby
• 33:29
  you guys are literally [ __ ]
• 33:32
  weird I forgot I'm also a
• 33:35
  baby a I'm a
• 33:40
  fetus imagine leave sorry imagine
• 33:43
  leaving a fetus on an orphanage step
• 33:46
  they're like it's not even done yet
• 33:48
  sorry yeah
• 33:51
  that's it's like still it's still in
• 33:52
  like the placental Sack or whatever
• 33:55
  somebody it's like you have to put it
• 33:56
  back inside of a mom in order finish it
• 33:59
  I'm I'm rooting for that process to be
• 34:01
  completed I have a deal with mothers I
• 34:04
  have a deal with
• 34:05
  mothers it's my target demo if I
• 34:09
  saw a fetus what would I do like just on
• 34:12
  an orphan I'm not sure I would know what
• 34:14
  it is I probably yeah are they still
• 34:17
  called
• 34:19
  orphanages oh good question is that some
• 34:22
  sort of different system I don't know I
• 34:24
  think there's a difference between being
• 34:25
  in foster care and being in an orphanage
• 34:27
  yeah but I think there are more people
• 34:28
  in foster care than yeah I'm never
• 34:30
  hearing about the orphanages yeah I
• 34:33
  think they exist but it's not the most
• 34:36
  effective method so there's fewer of
• 34:38
  them maybe there's lesson maybe it's
• 34:40
  like America could be an America thing
• 34:42
  like does more Foster and maybe like cuz
• 34:45
  like what a lot of people adopt it's
• 34:46
  like from places that are more desperate
• 34:49
  movies for kids are always about
• 34:51
  orphanages true that be a huge part of
• 34:54
  my life but not now that I'm not
• 34:56
  watching Mary K Ashley movies it's like
• 34:59
  where are those stories being told they
• 35:02
  did wasn't the the Annie movie they made
• 35:04
  in like 2011 set in modern day yes black
• 35:08
  Annie yeah that was incredible I saw it
• 35:10
  in theaters that movie has some good
• 35:13
  music but okay so there was an orphanage
• 35:15
  in a movie in 2011 we've got that data
• 35:18
  point that is true yeah but is it cuz it
• 35:21
  was Annie is Annie the only American
• 35:24
  orphan
• 35:26
  story well
• 35:28
  no
• 35:29
  because oh the Box Car children there's
• 35:31
  of course Samantha American Girl holiday
• 35:34
  the historical American Girl doll who
• 35:37
  befriends Nelly and her sisters who are
• 35:39
  orphans and then gets her rich Uncle
• 35:41
  guard to adopt them on Christmas day
• 35:43
  wait I remember that that's the best
• 35:45
  thing that can happen to not only an
• 35:47
  orphan but also to anybody is a rich
• 35:49
  person adop two yeah like orphan's
• 35:52
  always like big money big money big it's
• 35:54
  like very much so like a lottery sorry
• 35:58
  you know what I mean our friends are
• 35:59
  like let's go yeah like let's get let's
• 36:01
  get some of the billionaires that own
• 36:03
  the biggest building in town to come
• 36:05
  down to the adoption unfortunately those
• 36:07
  people are doing IVF uh for sure for
• 36:10
  sure for sure for sure yeah yeah
• 36:12
  yeah I keep getting targeted ads to
• 36:15
  donate my eggs for 10K and I'm like only
• 36:18
  10K yeah yeah it's such an invasive
• 36:20
  procedure actually it's really painful
• 36:22
  and dangerous even
• 36:24
  dangerous sperm do they really I tried
• 36:28
  they can't just hand it in loose is what
• 36:29
  they said yeah exactly I kept coming
• 36:32
  back new
• 36:35
  jars yeah it was really uh yeah it was
• 36:38
  really really sad that was a that was
• 36:40
  when I worked at a midsize B2B software
• 36:42
  firm oh is that why they rejected yeah
• 36:46
  exactly they were like we don't know
• 36:47
  what you
• 36:50
  do uh no well no but the what I've come
• 36:54
  to learn is that um it's more more it's
• 36:58
  about like being able to survive the
• 37:01
  freezing process so it needs to like be
• 37:05
  it just like they keep it for a week and
• 37:07
  if it like
• 37:08
  dies um you don't get it or something un
• 37:11
  your sperms unfreezable yeah exactly I
• 37:14
  take I take that as a compliment like
• 37:17
  kind of powerful somehow I'm not going
• 37:18
  to interrogate that but I I just choose
• 37:20
  to take it as a compliment when do you
• 37:22
  say the process is invasive by the way I
• 37:24
  want to I am curious like what's up cuz
• 37:26
  the sperm donation process I think it's
• 37:27
  not that invasive it's the opposite of
• 37:31
  invasive uh they have to go in scoop but
• 37:34
  is it like isale Anatomy typically it's
• 37:37
  going to to be an inside procedure but
• 37:39
  it's not
• 37:41
  even that they go in through the
• 37:43
  existing holes they it's like a surgery
• 37:45
  I I could be dead wrong about this also
• 37:48
  but I think they they actually it's like
• 37:49
  a surger they have to do they have to do
• 37:52
  something with the egg so they'll start
• 37:54
  growing a little it's the beginning of
• 37:56
  IVF where you have to the hormone
• 37:58
  injections and then so you the like eggs
• 38:00
  whatever I truly that's the the medical
• 38:03
  term so they whatever and then they they
• 38:07
  take them out H and then go on Sushi and
• 38:11
  then they freeze them and you literally
• 38:13
  there is like literally a freezer in
• 38:15
  Manhattan freezing Rich wom's eggs right
• 38:17
  now and it's like there's all these like
• 38:19
  backups cuz what if the power goes out
• 38:21
  like are they going to lose their frozen
• 38:22
  eggs cuz they're going to melt oh
• 38:24
  interesting yeah so and you like have to
• 38:27
  you have you have to pay to keep your
• 38:30
  eggs frozen kind of like having a
• 38:32
  storage unit like you're paying for your
• 38:34
  eggs to stay in their little Locker wow
• 38:37
  like so some like some people have like
• 38:38
  super expensive like some some rich kids
• 38:40
  have a loft downtown and they're not
• 38:41
  even born yet
• 38:44
  yeah parents pay their utility bills
• 38:46
  live in
• 38:48
  Midtown sex in the city but they're it's
• 38:50
  five unborn twins there an animated film
• 38:53
  waiting to be told there's kind of so if
• 38:57
  you're doing IVF not necessarily here
• 38:59
  but I do feel like in the South where I
• 39:00
  grew up you're probably like a pretty
• 39:02
  wealthy person and you probably are also
• 39:04
  conservative but statistically not
• 39:06
  necessarily I should reorder this a lot
• 39:09
  of conservative people who have money
• 39:11
  like go do IVF and if you um if you are
• 39:15
  a twin or a triplet you're statistically
• 39:17
  more likely to be gay and if you do IVF
• 39:19
  you're more likely to get a twin or a
• 39:20
  triplet so like I know several pretty
• 39:23
  and it's just kind of like a funny a to
• 39:25
  there where like I know several like
• 39:28
  gay um Twins and triplets that their
• 39:31
  parents they were IVF babies and so
• 39:33
  these conservative families are
• 39:35
  accidentally like making themselves gay
• 39:36
  babies you know what I mean that's funny
• 39:39
  that's interesting who so gay we cracked
• 39:41
  the code it's nature not
• 39:45
  nurture yeah yeah well so many of my
• 39:49
  friends have been trying to get to the
• 39:50
  bottom of
• 39:52
  that well I briefly touched on sex in
• 39:54
  the city but I know that it's no you're
• 39:56
  doing girls
• 39:57
  rewatch we rewatching Broad City right
• 40:00
  now thought you were asking if she was
• 40:01
  interested in women no no no no no no no
• 40:04
  no I was going down the girls we have
• 40:06
  the time no no no no I was like oh my
• 40:09
  goodness the idea of the other the other
• 40:12
  now I'll now I'll briefly actually uh my
• 40:14
  guests are all very funny comedians this
• 40:17
  week and they do
• 40:21
  different yeah yeah yeah so yeah I know
• 40:23
  you got a cool pod I'm not doing plugs
• 40:25
  but I am just like thanks for plugging
• 40:26
  my podcast it's called girls rewatch we
• 40:29
  rewatched all of Lena Dunham's girls and
• 40:31
  now we're rewatching Broad City and
• 40:33
  there's some new shows coming out this
• 40:34
  year that we're excited to talk about as
• 40:36
  well like uh the boys season five
• 40:39
  or hard pivot actually definitely not
• 40:42
  that um Lina Dunham has a new show
• 40:45
  coming out and then we're hopefully
• 40:47
  going to cover the Rachel Senate HBO
• 40:49
  show oh what's that um
• 40:52
  isled and then Benny dramas
• 40:55
  overcompensating I'm sorry what what
• 40:57
  it's like Amazon Prime you say Benny
• 40:59
  dramas is that the name of the thing um
• 41:01
  do you know that guy Benny drama no he
• 41:04
  wears some cool wigs um cool his name is
• 41:07
  Benito Skinner but his like at is Benny
• 41:09
  drama and he goes by Benny drama but
• 41:11
  he's around he he hosts the podcast ride
• 41:13
  with Mary Beth Barone okay she had a
• 41:15
  great I lik her YouTube special a lot oh
• 41:18
  yeah I was at the taping of that her
• 41:19
  dress was so awesome was like the
• 41:21
  Coliseum like Decor yeah and she had
• 41:23
  like set up coliseums at the bellous it
• 41:25
  was she is like one of the chicest girls
• 41:27
  have yeah it's yeah very cool I felt
• 41:29
  like um I felt a little bit
• 41:32
  voyerismo but it's interesting to me you
• 41:34
  know what I mean yeah you're like
• 41:35
  watching every frame and you're like
• 41:37
  this isn't even for me and I love is
• 41:40
  that how you guys feel
• 41:41
  watching like a lot of
• 41:44
  stuff modern American culture yeah
• 41:49
  yeah Dan
• 41:51
  L we love Dan lado but I can imagine
• 41:54
  that the special for the boys I can
• 41:57
  imagine was not what maybe hits in a way
• 42:00
  that Mary Beth Bron did for sometimes
• 42:02
  I'm like I'm problematic for my
• 42:04
  inability to even listen to boys make
• 42:06
  jokes yeah wait wait wait wait okay hold
• 42:08
  on hold on you said have said to me
• 42:10
  before I I refuse to watch men do stand
• 42:13
  up or something like that it's not even
• 42:15
  like an active Choice it's like it
• 42:18
  filters out it's so awesome and there's
• 42:20
  so many things there's like sometimes
• 42:22
  I'll literally be listening to a guy in
• 42:24
  an open mic and I'm like if a girl said
• 42:27
  that I'd be losing my [ __ ] but it's like
• 42:31
  because because it was him I'm like all
• 42:33
  right [ __ ] relax like and it's like a
• 42:37
  trauma we have yet to get to the bottom
• 42:39
  of but I'm wishing guys who want to do
• 42:41
  comedy the best I heard there's like a
• 42:43
  place for you maybe
• 42:45
  so what's the most like boy thing that
• 42:47
  you like in culture um gay guys gay guys
• 42:52
  or boys which I didn't know for a very
• 42:55
  long time
• 42:59
  I love drag race I love like um the
• 43:03
  answer is
• 43:05
  nothing not one thing it's awesome I
• 43:08
  actually think it's really sweet when
• 43:10
  like guys
• 43:12
  um like cry um with each other and then
• 43:16
  they're like like um do you know what I
• 43:18
  like on Tik Tok when it's like um like
• 43:21
  somebody's brother who's been in jail
• 43:22
  comes home and surprises the other
• 43:24
  brother and they like Embrace and
• 43:26
  they're like oh I missed you buddy I
• 43:27
  find that really powerful that's a good
• 43:28
  answer that's a really good answer I
• 43:30
  like that and like there's something
• 43:32
  really special about
• 43:33
  Brotherhood cuz it's like despite the
• 43:35
  socialization of like you not being
• 43:37
  allowed to like care or like feel like
• 43:40
  feelings or whatever like when it's your
• 43:42
  brother and he's been gone like you're
• 43:43
  allowed to cry and I'm like [ __ ]
• 43:50
  yeah that's
• 43:53
  awesome well it's awesome cuz it's not
• 43:55
  on purpose even kind of yeah it really
• 43:58
  makes me
• 43:59
  laugh it's like truly your C me frowning
• 44:03
  at a mic and they're like you're being
• 44:04
  so rude and I'm like no I'm not like I
• 44:06
  didn't even know that was my face have
• 44:09
  y'all ever been texted pictures of you
• 44:11
  watching a
• 44:12
  [Laughter]
• 44:14
  show no I like I like that answer I I
• 44:17
  love that you bring that energy I'm
• 44:19
  goingon to I'm going to put you all in
• 44:20
  the hot seat uh I don't go around Audrey
• 44:22
  will do you next okay you've been
• 44:24
  running one of the best shows in town
• 44:26
  for a little while
• 44:27
  really great the energy bringing the
• 44:29
  Good Vibes to the scene thank you how's
• 44:32
  what's how's that feeling how's that
• 44:34
  feeling that going um how's the show
• 44:36
  how's the show going well yeah it's good
• 44:38
  I mean I think it's it's really fun to
• 44:42
  consistently have a space to like book
• 44:44
  the people that I want to see the book
• 44:46
  book the people that I like seeing like
• 44:47
  cultivate an experience that I know that
• 44:50
  if I tell my friends where I tell
• 44:51
  strangers to go it's going to be a good
• 44:53
  vibe and they're going to get to see
• 44:54
  like it's fun I think now I've I've made
• 44:57
  some friends recently that like through
• 45:00
  this school program thing I'm doing um
• 45:03
  that are fresh to New York and I think
• 45:05
  their impression of New York was at
• 45:06
  first so Manhattan and it's like really
• 45:07
  lovely to bring them to Brooklyn and be
• 45:08
  like here's this like super alternative
• 45:10
  queer popular show where you could see
• 45:12
  all this up and coming amazing talent
• 45:14
  and it like feels good to have a space
• 45:17
  to like be like these are the people I'm
• 45:19
  a fan of these are the people I'm
• 45:20
  excited about they can come and perform
• 45:22
  here and I get to be a part of it um so
• 45:24
  I I I don't know I love doing Live
• 45:25
  Comedy I really feel passionate about
• 45:29
  it I like there's when I came to the
• 45:32
  scene people would talk about like kind
• 45:33
  of these old shows like the Knitting
• 45:35
  Factory type stuff or whatever and I was
• 45:37
  like damn I kind of wish I was [ __ ]
• 45:38
  here for whatever that was but then I'm
• 45:40
  like oh what I am here now yeah for the
• 45:43
  stuff that is here now you know what I
• 45:45
  mean and I feel like that's one of those
• 45:46
  things you know what I
• 45:47
  mean literally you know what I'm talking
• 45:50
  about no yeah like you're almost
• 45:51
  nostalgic for what you thought you
• 45:53
  imagined it would be like when you got
• 45:55
  here and then you're like oh like the
• 45:57
  thing I'm doing right now is going to be
• 45:59
  nostalgic to me like in 10 years and I'm
• 46:02
  like rushing through it and being in a
• 46:04
  bad
• 46:05
  mood when actually I'm in the heart of
• 46:07
  it and right now is Magic I kind of
• 46:09
  think about that a little bit where it's
• 46:10
  like you just just mentioned Rachel
• 46:12
  Senate and like she was in the scene and
• 46:15
  I'm like oh I I'm ships in the night a
• 46:17
  little bit but also by like two years
• 46:19
  but it's like oh [ __ ] I if I gotten here
• 46:21
  preo I would have known Rachel Senate
• 46:23
  and IO and whoever you know what I mean
• 46:25
  I don't know if you guys feel or if you
• 46:27
  know them or feel simil you know what I
• 46:28
  mean I guess but I know I know you guys
• 46:30
  was that well I always feel or I feel
• 46:33
  like I always get to brag about the
• 46:34
  people I know when I go home to my
• 46:36
  parents or I talk to family friends
• 46:38
  because we do I we do know the next
• 46:40
  famous people already SL some people
• 46:42
  already famous and I'm like I've spoken
• 46:45
  to them before but I I feel like that
• 46:47
  all the time or I feel always in awe of
• 46:49
  the people I'm around which is so
• 46:50
  awesome but it is like yeah people are
• 46:52
  so talented and it's so crazy I get to
• 46:54
  see everyone all the time for free or
• 46:57
  for5 to
• 46:59
  $10 and yeah well sometimes 15 or
• 47:04
  20 pleas inflation go crazy I love
• 47:06
  seeing my friends for
• 47:08
  $20 and a drink none of you guys are
• 47:11
  getting
• 47:12
  cops but it is so exciting to meet
• 47:15
  people and like I've met people who are
• 47:19
  in their first couple months of miking
• 47:20
  but you just know they're going to like
• 47:22
  you know they're so good and someone and
• 47:24
  then you like see them that's my big I
• 47:27
  love that and I've like had that happen
• 47:29
  to friends already and it's just like
• 47:30
  very exciting to be like I believed in
• 47:32
  you and I was right you know hell yeah
• 47:36
  freaking anybody uh that you want to
• 47:39
  shout out who you're like this person is
• 47:41
  doing real well and they're coming up um
• 47:44
  Jessie Lee I think is so amazing and I
• 47:47
  love how robust is I feel like um I just
• 47:51
  like have watched her really grind I
• 47:53
  feel like she does like a new super
• 47:54
  creative video literally every single
• 47:56
  day
• 47:57
  and um I've just watched her get better
• 47:59
  and better her Ikea table one oh my God
• 48:01
  I met I met some people the other night
• 48:03
  who were like oh my God we love Jesse
• 48:05
  Lee so know I know what you mean yeah
• 48:06
  yeah for sure Claire donare also I think
• 48:09
  like has really developed this like
• 48:11
  specific tone of voice and also just
• 48:13
  like CHS out this like really funny
• 48:15
  creative content and I think like I met
• 48:17
  them both and immediately liked them so
• 48:19
  much and I was like you guys are
• 48:20
  geniuses and then now I feel like people
• 48:22
  are finding out too that they're
• 48:24
  Geniuses and I'm like I knew it
• 48:26
  sometimes I feel like I'm like oh that's
• 48:27
  right we're like it's we're in the spot
• 48:29
  where all the Geniuses come to it's
• 48:31
  genius water you know what I mean it's
• 48:33
  like I don't know I'm talking to people
• 48:35
  and I'm like oh [ __ ] that's right I
• 48:36
  could see everything and the what I mean
• 48:38
  I feel a little naked sometimes where
• 48:40
  I'm like uh I'm like oh this person can
• 48:42
  tell that I'm like a weird you know what
• 48:45
  I mean I'll be like you know wait what
• 48:47
  do you mean like I'll be all I'll feel
• 48:49
  like I'm kind of uh putting on like a
• 48:52
  may be like a hat of ego or being weird
• 48:54
  or something and then somebody will be
• 48:55
  like uh why you being weird and I'm like
• 48:58
  that's right people can
• 49:00
  [ __ ] like these are all smart people
• 49:01
  who are on the ball and you know what I
• 49:03
  mean I'm very observant you know what I
• 49:04
  mean yeah I know see that yeah but in
• 49:08
  like a fun way like it keeps on your
• 49:09
  toes you know what I mean yeah like
• 49:11
  you're constantly being clocked yeah yes
• 49:14
  yes I feel like you're you would be good
• 49:17
  with
• 49:20
  that I'm like yeah I'm like I wish it
• 49:22
  would happen to me more but I feel like
• 49:24
  I'm mostly doing it to others I I also I
• 49:28
  I like fail to have a filter that most
• 49:30
  people I think have so I'll like say
• 49:33
  something that everybody was thinking
• 49:35
  but knew not to say and then and then
• 49:38
  I'm like oh right no but I like that
• 49:41
  though I like that like yeah hopefully
• 49:43
  Works honestly I went to college in
• 49:45
  Canada and I it was like culture like
• 49:49
  the it was such a culture shock because
• 49:51
  people people there are so like and
• 49:54
  Texas is like this too but it's like
• 49:55
  it's more important to be polite than to
• 49:57
  be kind like you just want to appear
• 50:01
  nice rather than like actually caring
• 50:03
  about somebody so it's like I feel like
• 50:06
  from a young age I was always trying to
• 50:07
  like figure out like who was lying to me
• 50:09
  versus who was telling me the truth cuz
• 50:10
  everybody was smiling but I was like but
• 50:12
  how do you really feel so you like pick
• 50:14
  up on kind of like the unspoken whatever
• 50:16
  and Canada was the same way but almost
• 50:18
  like Turned Up A Notch where nobody says
• 50:20
  what they actually feel so you have to
• 50:22
  kind of like decipher it but it was
• 50:24
  amazing to move to New York and
• 50:25
  immediately everybody was so like velm
• 50:28
  and like Unapologetic and kind of just
• 50:30
  like straightforward and like honest
• 50:32
  shooting from the hip in a way yeah and
• 50:34
  like it is like fun that like people
• 50:37
  will like come at you in a way that they
• 50:39
  don't incanada yeah know I know what you
• 50:42
  mean I'm re recently I've really been
• 50:44
  trying to practice the thing of when I
• 50:47
  feel like you were mentioning this when
• 50:48
  people are talking or or just like in a
• 50:50
  way that's above you somehow or I feel
• 50:52
  this way where sometimes people are
• 50:53
  talking and I just don't get it I really
• 50:55
  am trying to practice the art of just
• 50:56
  telling telling them that I don't get
• 50:57
  what they're saying same thing with a
• 50:59
  joke of if someone's like clearly trying
• 51:01
  to run a joke on me in conversation or
• 51:03
  they are literally running a joke and I
• 51:05
  don't get it just just saying it instead
• 51:07
  of instead of pretending to laugh and
• 51:09
  that is that is sort of my version of
• 51:11
  that because otherwise it's like we're
• 51:12
  going to keep going in a conversation
• 51:13
  where I'm just going to have to pretend
• 51:15
  the whole time that I know what you're
• 51:17
  talking about but actually I think it's
• 51:19
  better to arrest the momentum and be
• 51:21
  like can you explain the Treaty of for
• 51:23
  Zai really quick
• 51:26
  always really in conversation if someone
• 51:29
  will either stop me or stop someone else
• 51:31
  in a conversation and go wait what does
• 51:32
  that word mean I always think that's a
• 51:34
  sign like that like that's a cool person
• 51:36
  instead I just think it's like so much
• 51:37
  better to ask to that than you are on
• 51:39
  the same it's also Empower move like I
• 51:41
  feel stupid when I say like I always get
• 51:45
  in my head of like am
• 51:48
  I like when someone ask me like what a
• 51:51
  word means or like what a reference is I
• 51:53
  feel like an idiot for assuming they
• 51:56
  knew like so I feel like The [ __ ]
• 51:58
  for being like who the [ __ ] do you think
• 52:01
  you are like what are you talking
• 52:03
  about the Smart Ones for like they're
• 52:06
  smart for not giving a [ __ ] about the
• 52:08
  stupid thing I just referenced you know
• 52:10
  what I mean yeah yeah that is crazy to
• 52:12
  just turn it back on yourself and be
• 52:13
  like
• 52:14
  dumb do that I really do that that's why
• 52:18
  I end up like I get so in my head about
• 52:21
  the thing like when I'm referencing
• 52:23
  anyone I preemptive I have no I I feel
• 52:26
  like I completely lost any sense of like
• 52:28
  what a normal person knows so I'll end
• 52:31
  up being like referencing something I'll
• 52:33
  be like have you heard of that and then
• 52:35
  sometimes they're like no what are you
• 52:38
  talking about and sometimes they're like
• 52:40
  yeah I've heard of that and then yeah
• 52:43
  then either way I'm I'm like [ __ ] shut
• 52:47
  up I had that uh I had that today cuz I
• 52:51
  I I put out a joke and it's about like
• 52:52
  uh the Chicago bean and somebody's like
• 52:55
  the what are you talking about like
• 52:56
  downtown Chicago Mir Bean like what the
• 53:00
  hell are you talking about and I'm like
• 53:02
  I'm like oh is this not and then I I had
• 53:04
  to be like no people know like I had to
• 53:08
  like me think especially in the age of
• 53:10
  the internet I really my yeah people
• 53:14
  know how to they know about the bean
• 53:15
  people know how to find the bean they
• 53:18
  ought to know the bean and that's the
• 53:19
  that's the tough thing to know is like
• 53:21
  whether they do know the Bean or don't
• 53:23
  know the bean ought they to know the
• 53:25
  bean okay yes they ought to know I I was
• 53:29
  like I'm just like uh yeah it's like
• 53:31
  it's like you're if you know somebody
• 53:33
  that goes to Chicago it's that distorted
• 53:36
  mirror photo they post yeah yeah that's
• 53:39
  that you know what I'm talking about
• 53:40
  yeah everyone knows so I just had to be
• 53:42
  like I like I can't believe people are
• 53:43
  acting like they don't know the
• 53:45
  bean oh D yeah they're pretending not to
• 53:48
  know the bean but it's it's I think it's
• 53:49
  every joke cuz somebody will be like
• 53:52
  like uh I had one about I'm just not
• 53:54
  running jokes past it I didn't run the
• 53:55
  joke I didn't run the joke by him just
• 53:56
  telling you the reference the um using
• 53:58
  every part of the Buffalo somebody's
• 54:00
  like what yeah yeah I'm like you know I
• 54:03
  remember learning I literally remember I
• 54:06
  could picture myself in fourth grade
• 54:07
  learning that and being like Oh my God I
• 54:10
  remember what part of the classroom I
• 54:11
  was in when I found out that they turned
• 54:14
  the bladder into a reusable water bottle
• 54:16
  and I was like wait a second they use
• 54:19
  the tongue for the hair tongue for the
• 54:20
  hairbrush got to my like it all I will
• 54:24
  say no I won't
• 54:28
  I'll tell okay here I'll can I I'll
• 54:30
  couch can I couch this
• 54:32
  carefully okay okay okay okay okay I
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  respect Native American cultures however
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  this idea this idea of immediately
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  indigenous
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  culture totally I think yeah absolutely
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  I yes uh I'm going very specifically the
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  tribes that do the Buffalo thing and the
• 54:54
  idea of that it's more respect F to the
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  animal to use every body part it's like
• 55:01
  well that is bringing your own ideas of
• 55:04
  what the like you just killed an animal
• 55:06
  and drank its Blood using its tongue as
• 55:08
  a hairbrush does not necessarily strike
• 55:10
  me as
• 55:12
  respect I think that the respect is
• 55:15
  within a framework of a specific
• 55:16
  spiritual idea which I respect however
• 55:20
  from a secular perspective that's not
• 55:23
  respecting but anyway
• 55:29
  how you feel I'll let him know I'll let
• 55:30
  him know sorry I uh I was trying to
• 55:32
  write a joke about that and I was like I
• 55:34
  could never say that because that's not
• 55:35
  correct however I said it here but my
• 55:37
  couching is that uh I don't actually
• 55:39
  believe
• 55:42
  that AIA was clocking you the whole time
• 55:45
  yeah yeah yeah we'll play that back and
• 55:47
  I'll be somehow in a position like
• 55:49
  really can I trade you back from
• 55:52
  understand the different tribes of
• 55:54
  America don't prefer indigenous so they
• 55:57
  prefer the specific tribe and they don't
• 55:59
  like being all lumped they don't like
• 56:00
  being lumped together yeah so but does
• 56:02
  Native Americans really fix that no but
• 56:06
  I didn't know how to what it you know
• 56:08
  what I mean I don't know what to say
• 56:10
  yeah I don't know what to say I'm trying
• 56:11
  the thing in this space I mean well
• 56:15
  however okay here's a thought here's
• 56:16
  here's a quick thought here's a quick
• 56:18
  thought this idea of respecting the
• 56:19
  Buffalo I think is very specifically an
• 56:22
  idea of respecting these Native American
• 56:24
  religions um but I don't respect any
• 56:28
  general religions I don't respect
• 56:29
  Christianity or Judaism or any of them
• 56:32
  so for to randomly put Native American
• 56:34
  religion on a pedestal I think is
• 56:37
  specifically only I think it is very
• 56:39
  valid because of what we have done to
• 56:41
  them and the and Etc however uh I think
• 56:45
  it's differ between respecting the
• 56:46
  people and I can disagree with the
• 56:48
  belief system does that make sense Benny
• 56:49
  the religion you're referencing they
• 56:52
  don't eat the whole Buffalo anymore
• 56:54
  because we took the buffalos away but
• 56:56
  like you are also I feel like that the
• 56:58
  criticism you're applying is to a
• 57:01
  culture that doesn't really exist
• 57:03
  because we in the same way totally uh
• 57:06
  the Buffalo are back though yeah but I
• 57:08
  don't think that the way they used to be
• 57:11
  there used to be a lot of
• 57:14
  buffo I think the main point is yeah you
• 57:16
  don't have to agree with any belief
• 57:17
  system okay let me here's here's the
• 57:20
  where it actually becomes relevant is
• 57:21
  that we have this idea of uh we don't
• 57:24
  agree that Israel is the sacred Holy
• 57:26
  Land of the Jews right are we kind of
• 57:28
  all on board with that um I think the
• 57:30
  idea of sacred land is itself a bad idea
• 57:35
  uh I think that we should respect the
• 57:37
  movement of people and care about where
• 57:38
  people are and care about people in
• 57:39
  general democratically in a way and so
• 57:42
  when we have certain ideas of sacred
• 57:46
  native land getting in the way of
• 57:47
  certain things I can see that as
• 57:49
  sometimes actually being a problematic
• 57:51
  structure because respect I think one
• 57:53
  one respect land
• 57:57
  the meaning of sacred is is different in
• 57:59
  those uh examples or just like in okay
• 58:03
  I'm actually pleas please go go off on
• 58:05
  me actually
• 58:06
  please and that's more like sacred as
• 58:09
  that it should be protected for its
• 58:11
  value as being natural Land versus
• 58:15
  spilling on myself uh people who need to
• 58:18
  be in XYZ Place well and also in terms
• 58:22
  of
• 58:22
  fracking or yeah it could be anything
• 58:26
  should be protected for its inherent
• 58:28
  value as land that's why it's sacred
• 58:31
  that's a great point I respect that and
• 58:33
  I've changed my mind in that way and
• 58:35
  well actually want and that's and that's
• 58:36
  why we have dialogue and when we're
• 58:38
  ready to go off on a tangent I'm
• 58:40
  prepared yeah I will I will I I was
• 58:43
  going to talk I was going to put you in
• 58:44
  the hot SE and new the hot SE I just
• 58:45
  want to touch on this briefly because I
• 58:46
  think this idea of using every part of
• 58:48
  the Buffalo to respect it is I think
• 58:52
  only within a framework of a specific
• 58:55
  morality and is not necessarily
• 58:57
  respecting the Buffalo well it's kind of
• 58:59
  sense not to bring up Broad City but
• 59:01
  it's like uh the episode I was just
• 59:03
  talking about was Alana read an article
• 59:06
  about like child labor like making like
• 59:08
  Fast fashion and she's like so upset but
• 59:12
  then aby's like but it's a really cute
• 59:14
  shirt like what if I buy it and then
• 59:15
  Alana says well it would be all for a
• 59:18
  waste if you didn't buy the shirt like
• 59:20
  the idea where it's like it's the same
• 59:22
  idea of like well if you already killed
• 59:23
  the Buffalo like if you already made the
• 59:25
  child labor or have to do the work like
• 59:27
  whatever so it's like it's like faulty
• 59:30
  in all scenarios that's valid I think
• 59:32
  I'll put a pause here cuz I think I I
• 59:34
  can tell you guys are not loving my
• 59:36
  angle here um so I'll what I'll say is
• 59:38
  that I I assume all guilt of this
• 59:41
  perspective no I was going to say that
• 59:43
  um it's like how we make chicken nuggets
• 59:46
  and hot
• 59:47
  dogs totally yeah in terms of like uh
• 59:51
  not about respect but using all of the
• 59:53
  using all of the animal
• 59:56
  okay so here okay I'm but to me that is
• 59:58
  like to me that's more a question of
• 1:00:00
  sustainability where I'm like oh yeah
• 1:00:02
  you're using all the parts of the animal
• 1:00:04
  so you like you got more like products
• 1:00:07
  just you need a neat different
• 1:00:08
  justification I think I think that yes I
• 1:00:10
  think that the justification of
• 1:00:11
  respecting the animal is a reverse
• 1:00:15
  justification of we have killed this
• 1:00:17
  thing and now we're using every part of
• 1:00:19
  it and so we're going it's actually
• 1:00:22
  because we respect it it's like I don't
• 1:00:24
  think that's why I think you're doing
• 1:00:25
  out of survivability idea um but uh
• 1:00:29
  however what I'll do another continuing
• 1:00:31
  to pull back and go um this is something
• 1:00:35
  where we would I should not have brought
• 1:00:37
  this up with this specific ethnic
• 1:00:40
  collection and I should perhaps discuss
• 1:00:42
  this with native peoples who whose
• 1:00:46
  tribes it's relevant to uh totally does
• 1:00:49
  that make sense you got to get him in
• 1:00:50
  the studio but I think I'd love to I
• 1:00:53
  would genuinely love to I think it's
• 1:00:55
  valid to
• 1:00:56
  disagree about that sort of thing um and
• 1:01:00
  I and I'll I'll get the hell off of this
• 1:01:02
  topic because I think we hate this but I
• 1:01:03
  do think that um I think that there's a
• 1:01:07
  sacredness or there's like a there's
• 1:01:08
  like an inability to criticize within
• 1:01:10
  that space and I think that is uh
• 1:01:13
  probably good for most of it but I think
• 1:01:16
  some of it is like why can't I but I
• 1:01:18
  that's valid and I shouldn't be the one
• 1:01:19
  to do it so never mind is what I'll say
• 1:01:22
  I think it also just necessarily like an
• 1:01:24
  upto-date Rel religious practice so like
• 1:01:27
  that's valid comparing it to a criticism
• 1:01:29
  you would have of a modern religion that
• 1:01:31
  has like been able to thrive and develop
• 1:01:34
  in the modern
• 1:01:35
  world like the way
• 1:01:38
  Christianity and the power structure is
• 1:01:40
  different Phil philosophically and on
• 1:01:42
  principle I think that it's interesting
• 1:01:43
  to think about those things but I guess
• 1:01:46
  voicing them people are always like uh
• 1:01:49
  what's the purpose of this cuz it has no
• 1:01:50
  purpose because it is not a power holder
• 1:01:54
  this is why I should this is why I
• 1:01:55
  should have stopped myself from saying
• 1:01:56
  the idea I'm like I'm like I was like
• 1:01:58
  what the [ __ ] am I doing uh I was
• 1:02:01
  writing jokes about the idea of using
• 1:02:02
  every part of the Buffalo and then I was
• 1:02:04
  like it came to mind that thing we
• 1:02:05
  learned in preschool or likee or fourth
• 1:02:07
  grade or whatever where it's like uh
• 1:02:09
  using the tongue as a hairbrush and I'm
• 1:02:10
  like that's not
• 1:02:13
  respect that's using the tongue as a
• 1:02:16
  hairbrush I don't know you name I'm just
• 1:02:18
  curious how effective it is that is a
• 1:02:22
  really good question maybe for anti
• 1:02:24
  frisz yeah it also feels possible that
• 1:02:27
  maybe the tongue as the hairbrush thing
• 1:02:29
  is just something that they put in
• 1:02:31
  textbooks in the 2000s and maybe not
• 1:02:32
  reflective of something every was doing
• 1:02:34
  that's valid and I'll say in terms of
• 1:02:36
  our original conversation of getting it
• 1:02:37
  or not getting it I actually didn't get
• 1:02:40
  it because I didn't go to school here
• 1:02:43
  and we did not learn about those things
• 1:02:45
  interesting in Thailand you went to
• 1:02:47
  school in Thailand M I grew up for the
• 1:02:50
  most part in Thailand are you so pumped
• 1:02:53
  about season yeah actually did you guys
• 1:02:55
  watch the first episode already no I
• 1:02:57
  haven't seen it um okay well no spoilers
• 1:02:59
  but it did kind of make me homesick
• 1:03:00
  because well I've never been in a
• 1:03:02
  position before where I could watch TV
• 1:03:04
  and be like a judge over whether or not
• 1:03:07
  it's telling something actually
• 1:03:09
  authentically which so that was kind of
• 1:03:11
  fun but there are these morning birds in
• 1:03:13
  Thailand and they just like make such a
• 1:03:15
  specific they just like sing a specific
• 1:03:17
  song in the morning at like 6:00 a.m.
• 1:03:19
  and they sampled or they had them in the
• 1:03:21
  show and so then I heard them and I was
• 1:03:23
  like oh my God that's what I heard every
• 1:03:26
  yeah wow is it about like rich people
• 1:03:29
  who go to those like moon party thing
• 1:03:31
  kind of yeah but they didn't really do
• 1:03:32
  the full moon thing they did more like
• 1:03:34
  spiritual Buddhism exploration as
• 1:03:36
  opposed to like crazy going out which I
• 1:03:38
  would to me that's more the Thailand
• 1:03:40
  thing I feel like the spiritual stuff is
• 1:03:42
  more like like South Asian right as yeah
• 1:03:46
  like I like Thailand's a bit younger not
• 1:03:48
  to come after Mich white but um well
• 1:03:51
  there's still episodes left there's
• 1:03:52
  still episodes left so it could be but
• 1:03:54
  anyways okay yeah quick thought thank
• 1:03:56
  you for derailing appreciate that sorry
• 1:03:58
  for the energy I brought with that idea
• 1:04:01
  sorry for the idea itself and I will I
• 1:04:03
  will do my own reflection and study on
• 1:04:05
  it separately however I want to keep you
• 1:04:08
  in the hot seat uh and then I'll come to
• 1:04:11
  you as well but the idea of uh do you
• 1:04:13
  want to talk about nice okay cool what
• 1:04:16
  do you you write for you write for a
• 1:04:18
  sketch show or like a YouTube I say like
• 1:04:21
  do you want to talk about a different
• 1:04:22
  element of Comedy that doing yeah sure I
• 1:04:25
  write um um I write these scripts for
• 1:04:28
  this uh little speculative Science
• 1:04:30
  Channel called what if and so I write
• 1:04:32
  videos that are like what if you fell
• 1:04:34
  into Saturn or what if humans suddenly
• 1:04:37
  became as big as dinosaurs W and things
• 1:04:40
  like that so it's mostly speculative
• 1:04:43
  fiction but I do some do I do do some
• 1:04:45
  amount of research for them and they're
• 1:04:47
  quite fun that's so cute yeah how long
• 1:04:50
  are the videos um originally they were
• 1:04:52
  10 minutes but they just extended them
• 1:04:55
  so now they're around 20 that's sweet
• 1:04:57
  and they like they animate it it's all
• 1:04:59
  very so I I not to derail but like so I
• 1:05:04
  have this app to reduce my screen time I
• 1:05:07
  have done this app on my phone to like I
• 1:05:10
  have to do a certain number of push-ups
• 1:05:13
  every push-up gets me another minute of
• 1:05:15
  screen time and so I literally like
• 1:05:18
  radically reduced my like Tik Tok
• 1:05:21
  Instagram Twitter down to zero minutes
• 1:05:24
  yeah really yeah I haven't done a
• 1:05:26
  push-up in a year and a half no but like
• 1:05:28
  I really don't watch it but the one
• 1:05:30
  thing I kept is YouTube because I like
• 1:05:32
  like when I go like at the gym use the
• 1:05:35
  elliptical I like watch so I've like the
• 1:05:38
  last like six months I've consumed more
• 1:05:41
  like longform YouTube content than I
• 1:05:43
  ever have so what you're describing is
• 1:05:45
  like that's I like
• 1:05:48
  that sounds great you watch kis isaz
• 1:05:51
  that you watch any of those what's that
• 1:05:53
  it's like one of those channels you love
• 1:05:55
  it's great that one with like the Little
• 1:05:56
  Birds
• 1:05:57
  cartoon I've done more like history ones
• 1:06:00
  and then like nerdy music stuff that
• 1:06:02
  that's where I get ads that are like not
• 1:06:04
  for
• 1:06:04
  me it's like retirement plans and stuff
• 1:06:07
  are you guys video essay people you guys
• 1:06:09
  like watching oh yeah they understand
• 1:06:10
  you are yeah well okay I imagine our
• 1:06:12
  video essay diet is falling along
• 1:06:15
  different lines I think it's going to be
• 1:06:17
  kind of maybe the three of us and then
• 1:06:19
  the two of you oh and does that does
• 1:06:22
  that make sense like I feel as though
• 1:06:24
  you're probably watching
• 1:06:27
  more Lee she does like um like the Colts
• 1:06:31
  of Pilates or like fashion Evolution or
• 1:06:34
  like oh so you and I have the same
• 1:06:36
  probably probably um but yeah there's so
• 1:06:39
  many amazing girls who are so smart
• 1:06:42
  making video essays for me to eat every
• 1:06:44
  day during lunch but it's always just
• 1:06:47
  like why do bangs look like this and
• 1:06:50
  it's like an hour and a half long that
• 1:06:53
  that actually does sound sounds and
• 1:06:56
  they're like very well like um uh
• 1:06:59
  researched and like show you like it's
• 1:07:01
  like this is what Hank Green and John
• 1:07:03
  Green actually didn't talk about when I
• 1:07:04
  was studying for the AP exam and it's
• 1:07:07
  now finally I get to hear like what
• 1:07:08
  girls were like back then I'm going to
• 1:07:11
  pause you real quick and go we are a
• 1:07:12
  little over an hour but we can continue
• 1:07:14
  if people are feeling the vibe sound
• 1:07:16
  good and if anybody wants to run away
• 1:07:19
  now is your chance does anybody have any
• 1:07:22
  word to
• 1:07:23
  be no cool great well I won't make you
• 1:07:27
  do it forever but I I don't know if
• 1:07:29
  we're vibing I should have told you that
• 1:07:31
  ahead of time you did I told two of you
• 1:07:35
  yeah I told you two but I forgot they
• 1:07:36
  told you two I have nowhere to be
• 1:07:38
  awesome
• 1:07:41
  awesome um my okay the long form YouTube
• 1:07:45
  thing that I watch is I think going to
• 1:07:48
  surprise people um but I actually really
• 1:07:51
  love uh the guy that yells at people
• 1:07:54
  about their finan
• 1:07:56
  do you guys know about
• 1:07:58
  this so the whole thing it's very like
• 1:08:02
  it's it's very um see that's the guy
• 1:08:04
  thing that you like that's the guy thing
• 1:08:06
  I like so he's this guy in Austin Texas
• 1:08:09
  and he makes these sort of like click
• 1:08:10
  baity like kind of amped up videos where
• 1:08:13
  people come in and are like I'm in so
• 1:08:16
  much Deb and every single day I door
• 1:08:18
  Dash something and then he's like you
• 1:08:19
  have to stop door dashing and at the end
• 1:08:23
  he like makes them a budget and is like
• 1:08:25
  you're going to get it together you're
• 1:08:27
  GNA retire and so it's it's kind of fun
• 1:08:29
  to have on in the background because one
• 1:08:31
  he will sometimes say like stuff about
• 1:08:32
  finances where I do feel like it's
• 1:08:34
  important information is finding its way
• 1:08:36
  to me where like he talked about
• 1:08:37
  different types of savings accounts and
• 1:08:39
  I did like go look into it I was like
• 1:08:42
  that is actually useful information
• 1:08:43
  iring my ass yeah and but it also
• 1:08:46
  sometimes it's just a little satisfying
• 1:08:48
  to be like okay I'm not this
• 1:08:52
  irresponsible and then in the end he
• 1:08:53
  helps them and the way he makes a budget
• 1:08:55
  is actually pretty helpful um but I I
• 1:08:58
  honestly it is funny to me when he Ys I
• 1:09:01
  only ever see him on like Tik Tok so
• 1:09:03
  like it it makes me feel good to know
• 1:09:05
  that in the end he sends him on the
• 1:09:07
  right Road no i' only see like you idiot
• 1:09:10
  you went to graduate school [ __ ]
• 1:09:12
  you and then what's funny too is like
• 1:09:15
  sometimes you'll see the Tik Tok and
• 1:09:17
  it'll be like this woman storms out of
• 1:09:19
  the show first person and then in the
• 1:09:21
  real video she'll get upset and then
• 1:09:23
  he'll go like okay hold on and he goes
• 1:09:25
  talked to you in the beginning and said
• 1:09:26
  I'd be I'd make fun of you and that
• 1:09:27
  that's part of the C like the part of
• 1:09:29
  the show but if you want me to stop I'll
• 1:09:30
  pull back what do you need and then like
• 1:09:32
  when they clickbait it online they it
• 1:09:34
  seem like he's this monster and then you
• 1:09:35
  watch it and he's like normal enough I
• 1:09:38
  don't know maybe he's a freak I don't
• 1:09:39
  really know think about him but it's
• 1:09:41
  just so funny to watch them make
• 1:09:42
  clickbait in real time um yeah I just I
• 1:09:46
  think it's kind of interesting and kind
• 1:09:47
  of funny and if I'm watching an hourong
• 1:09:50
  YouTube video while I'm like cleaning my
• 1:09:52
  room it's that's the best the video ESS
• 1:09:55
  are the best for when you're also doing
• 1:09:56
  a
• 1:09:57
  second wait I was going to ask I I'll
• 1:10:00
  put you I want come back to your H well
• 1:10:01
  in a moment because I got more for I
• 1:10:03
  don't know I'll forget but I uh but also
• 1:10:06
  two things for you uh have you been the
• 1:10:08
  subject of like a video essay have
• 1:10:10
  people made video essays about your [ __ ]
• 1:10:12
  yeah yeah have you have you watched them
• 1:10:14
  yeah there was one yeah there was one
• 1:10:16
  good one that I really like that like
• 1:10:19
  dissected planet of the base in the
• 1:10:21
  context of like the fall of the Soviet
• 1:10:23
  Union really that I would have watched
• 1:10:27
  that as a
• 1:10:29
  consumer I was like I loved it and uh
• 1:10:31
  were you in Planet of the base
• 1:10:34
  yeah yeah actually that's how I
• 1:10:37
  remembered I started watching I was like
• 1:10:38
  this is interesting oh that's
• 1:10:40
  me uh yeah and then yeah that was cool
• 1:10:44
  and yeah that's the only one I can think
• 1:10:47
  of but that's cool there were some other
• 1:10:49
  ones that you didn't watch or didn't
• 1:10:52
  like or uh well like yeah like a true
• 1:10:54
  video essay people have like yeah like I
• 1:10:57
  don't know how if you remember like the
• 1:10:59
  plan of the base Saga of like I had the
• 1:11:02
  different actresses lip syncing and
• 1:11:03
  people were
• 1:11:05
  pissed because that was the joke but
• 1:11:07
  that when you had the second one people
• 1:11:08
  were like what the I resolved it there
• 1:11:10
  was like a 3 we two we period where
• 1:11:12
  people were
• 1:11:14
  like what the [ __ ] is going on some of
• 1:11:17
  those but look actually the the S do you
• 1:11:20
  know like Dev lemons she's like a
• 1:11:23
  whatever but she made a good video that
• 1:11:25
  was like it was really great cuz she was
• 1:11:27
  like really cool about it but she was
• 1:11:28
  like I I'm
• 1:11:29
  confused I don't know what's going on uh
• 1:11:33
  and but that was really cool yeah this
• 1:11:36
  is may be embarrassing but I mentioned
• 1:11:37
  planet of the base in one of my
• 1:11:39
  substacks and it was yeah it was an inn
• 1:11:43
  um I used it as an inn to talk about the
• 1:11:45
  death of parody in general culture
• 1:11:48
  because mostly just I was like things
• 1:11:50
  are yours is obviously parody but I was
• 1:11:52
  like a lot of things are intended as
• 1:11:53
  parody but they end up being like like
• 1:11:55
  actually Earnest versions of the thing
• 1:11:57
  they're trying to to par and I used your
• 1:11:59
  your song cuz I was because it was on
• 1:12:01
  because I would run to it often and so I
• 1:12:04
  was like oh it's a parody but also it's
• 1:12:06
  just like I'm like earnestly listening
• 1:12:08
  to this as a dance song and then I used
• 1:12:09
  have to start talking about like rage
• 1:12:11
  bait and things where I was like it's
• 1:12:12
  not rage bait like you're not parodying
• 1:12:14
  a genre of Rage bait cuz you are just
• 1:12:16
  being rage bait so I that's how I go
• 1:12:19
  that's how you yeah yeah well that is
• 1:12:21
  something I think a lot of a lot in yeah
• 1:12:23
  I'm I'm going to come back I'm putting a
• 1:12:25
  pit bookmark I'm going to come back to
• 1:12:26
  you about your substack by the way but
• 1:12:29
  cuz I like it but I'm going to come back
• 1:12:31
  but uh the uh yeah the freaking you got
• 1:12:33
  a bunch of characters that's the one
• 1:12:35
  that people know uh do you feel and then
• 1:12:37
  there's but I mean I I recognize several
• 1:12:40
  where you've got like the old timey or
• 1:12:42
  you've got like uh rich guy I don't know
• 1:12:44
  no yeah like it's you can def like I can
• 1:12:47
  tell I don't know uh you can tell in
• 1:12:49
  like two seconds like it's very the
• 1:12:53
  audience is very segmented like and I
• 1:12:55
  was kind of talking about this yesterday
• 1:12:56
  but like people who like one thing often
• 1:13:01
  that I do or like one character that I
• 1:13:02
  do will often like be completely unaware
• 1:13:06
  of the so like my the the people who
• 1:13:10
  like my basball character old tyy
• 1:13:12
  baseball character videos will be like
• 1:13:15
  genuinely completely unaware of DJ of
• 1:13:18
  Planet of the base DJ CRA or they won't
• 1:13:20
  know it's you like they won't no no they
• 1:13:21
  literally don't even have never heard of
• 1:13:23
  it really yes wow yeah yeah yeah and so
• 1:13:26
  I mean that's just kind of the world
• 1:13:28
  we're in it's like you know if you're a
• 1:13:30
  you
• 1:13:31
  know not people who like my baseball
• 1:13:33
  videos and 88% dudes like it's getting
• 1:13:36
  it's getting shared within a certain
• 1:13:38
  like social being DJ crazy times is like
• 1:13:42
  you know not it's not being fed to them
• 1:13:45
  good name I'm liking this I'm liking
• 1:13:47
  this new one the the Millen every
• 1:13:49
  Millennial song The Ho is that does the
• 1:13:52
  character have a name yeah Cody Redwing
• 1:13:54
  actually this is a you say it here it
• 1:13:55
  was supposed to be Cody Redwing and the
• 1:13:58
  roaming hearts and as his band and then
• 1:14:01
  uh I accidentally wrote it as broken
• 1:14:03
  hearts and then it just is broken hearts
• 1:14:05
  now on like I just [ __ ]
• 1:14:08
  up I just wrote it wrong uh but yeah
• 1:14:11
  Cody Redwing but that does that that's a
• 1:14:14
  little it's a little painful to watch
• 1:14:16
  cuz I was a little bit that type of guy
• 1:14:19
  yeah like I I had the scarf I had like a
• 1:14:21
  Tweed
• 1:14:23
  hat it like it kind of sucked for me to
• 1:14:25
  look
• 1:14:27
  at well that's what I think about it's
• 1:14:29
  like it's not especially just like you
• 1:14:32
  know with pop music in general it's like
• 1:14:36
  and it's just an inevitable thing like
• 1:14:38
  you know it's also like the perfect
• 1:14:40
  example of like Nickelback okay there's
• 1:14:44
  okay so Nickelback was extremely popular
• 1:14:48
  in like the they were one of the biggest
• 1:14:51
  rock and pop bands in the world then
• 1:14:53
  they got so big and they sort of became
• 1:14:56
  a totem for this whole genre of like
• 1:14:58
  butt rock music in 2000 butt rock yeah
• 1:15:01
  so then like by 2008 to 12 it became
• 1:15:05
  cool maybe even a little later like [ __ ]
• 1:15:07
  on Nickelback and then it became like a
• 1:15:09
  famous meme of like any bad music you'd
• 1:15:12
  be like oh what is this Nickelback and
• 1:15:14
  then it became dorky to [ __ ] on
• 1:15:16
  Nickelback became because it became such
• 1:15:18
  a cliche that people didn't even know so
• 1:15:21
  then you made fun of people who made fun
• 1:15:24
  of Nickelback but then those people like
• 1:15:28
  in order to make fun of this second
• 1:15:30
  group of people who made fun of
• 1:15:31
  Nickelback they would be like no
• 1:15:33
  Nickelback's actually really good and I
• 1:15:35
  love Nickelback and then they but they
• 1:15:39
  they Lo like it's so interesting the
• 1:15:41
  waves of like pop culture especially in
• 1:15:44
  the internet like how people consume it
• 1:15:45
  cuz it's like no no no just cuz you hate
• 1:15:48
  the second group of people who made fun
• 1:15:50
  of Nickelback doesn't make Nickelback
• 1:15:52
  good in the first place they can be bad
• 1:15:54
  and also the people who made fun of them
• 1:15:56
  can also be
• 1:15:57
  dorks like and so in the same way with
• 1:16:00
  this new song that I have that's like a
• 1:16:02
  parody of you know sort of millennial ho
• 1:16:05
  he you know you know s flap culture
• 1:16:10
  which which is like I do different
• 1:16:11
  parodies like the Gen genres I like more
• 1:16:14
  than others like I actually like Euro
• 1:16:16
  dance music and I I am not a fan of this
• 1:16:19
  type of music that I'm currently
• 1:16:21
  parodying but the point is like the
• 1:16:24
  reason it's so like cringy I guess is
• 1:16:28
  literally just because it's like 15
• 1:16:30
  years old and in 5 to 10
• 1:16:33
  years literally like me or like all the
• 1:16:37
  people who were like [ __ ] like my
• 1:16:39
  character or like what he represents
• 1:16:41
  like [ __ ] Mumford and Sons [ __ ] the
• 1:16:43
  illuminar they suck like [ __ ] the like
• 1:16:46
  they are going to be they're just doing
• 1:16:48
  that not because it actually sucks but
• 1:16:50
  because it just is like 15 years old and
• 1:16:52
  culture moved past it in this weird way
• 1:16:56
  but it'll come back to it eventually and
• 1:16:58
  then they will look like dorks for
• 1:17:01
  making fun of it so aggressively so do
• 1:17:02
  you think do you think you're going to
• 1:17:04
  look like a dork then in that time frame
• 1:17:06
  possibly but I think but but but I don't
• 1:17:10
  think like I so I happen to not really
• 1:17:13
  like this genre of music but what I
• 1:17:15
  think I try to do is just sort of like
• 1:17:19
  identify and distill the tropes and like
• 1:17:23
  package them and like the most condensed
• 1:17:27
  purest version of it so I like to think
• 1:17:30
  that I'm not
• 1:17:32
  necessarily or as much as like possible
• 1:17:34
  like not really like passing judgment in
• 1:17:37
  a sense it's just funny to like see what
• 1:17:41
  that genre is and like all the like sort
• 1:17:44
  of tropes of that like condensed and
• 1:17:48
  distilled in one place I can tell you're
• 1:17:50
  tapping into that with like the video
• 1:17:52
  element of it too where it's like you
• 1:17:53
  were like this is every
• 1:17:55
  uh I forget what the exact thing was but
• 1:17:57
  it was like it's like that thing of like
• 1:17:58
  they're holding the piece of paper going
• 1:18:00
  to the office like every office video
• 1:18:03
  like yes yes and I was like oh my God
• 1:18:04
  like I remember my friends doing like
• 1:18:07
  303 lip dubs or whatever they're drawing
• 1:18:09
  like x's on their
• 1:18:10
  hands you you all simply must relate to
• 1:18:13
  this I do no I don't know what this is I
• 1:18:17
  remember the the holding paper and and
• 1:18:19
  bringing things or whatever dropping be
• 1:18:21
  like a one take video that they would do
• 1:18:23
  like I was going to tell I'm in one
• 1:18:26
  really dude yeah okay my friend's in
• 1:18:27
  college okay that thing where it's like
• 1:18:29
  it's a house party and it's your
• 1:18:30
  friend's band is the song but the music
• 1:18:33
  video Just is the house party yeah you
• 1:18:37
  know what I mean but it's kind of
• 1:18:39
  stag um K Perry music video oh yeah last
• 1:18:42
  Friday night yes yes yes yes but it's
• 1:18:44
  like all one take right I'll show you
• 1:18:46
  afterwards is it manquin challenge no uh
• 1:18:50
  uh simar kind of kind of I think this is
• 1:18:53
  sort of our five
• 1:18:55
  yeah
• 1:18:57
  yeah is there an age difference here is
• 1:18:59
  that the idea is what you're saying like
• 1:19:00
  a five this is like the like the I'm 32
• 1:19:03
  okay I'm 31 I'm 25 I'm 26 26 yeah go
• 1:19:08
  there it is I think that's why we don't
• 1:19:09
  know the okay I was like I was like you
• 1:19:10
  guys would have eaten the [ __ ] out of
• 1:19:13
  you guys would know yeah I think it's
• 1:19:15
  like being a young adult versus a
• 1:19:16
  teenager in an office engaging with
• 1:19:18
  adults versus being in high school at
• 1:19:20
  this time of Music yes well I think it's
• 1:19:22
  I think we I would have been we would
• 1:19:24
  have been in high school oh or middle
• 1:19:27
  school I guess so you guys would have
• 1:19:28
  been even College really I'm thinking
• 1:19:31
  okay I would have been 2011
• 1:19:33
  201 I Remember Loving opilia by The
• 1:19:36
  Lumineers in yeah Stubborn
• 1:19:39
  Love sborn Love oh I feel like we got um
• 1:19:42
  little Little Talk by Of Monsters and
• 1:19:46
  Men listen
• 1:19:49
  yeah by the way love this stuff your
• 1:19:52
  thing keeps popping up and I keep
• 1:19:53
  thinking it's like a new band has come
• 1:19:55
  out with a new song and I'm like finally
• 1:19:57
  it's that I'm like wait but honestly
• 1:20:00
  that's my favorite reaction to this in
• 1:20:03
  particular but everything I do I love it
• 1:20:05
  when people are like like you're right
• 1:20:08
  but you can never make like this is
• 1:20:10
  change this has not changed my opinion I
• 1:20:12
  love this kind of that's my favorite
• 1:20:14
  reaction when people are like um they're
• 1:20:18
  like I see what you're doing but you can
• 1:20:20
  never make me not love it yeah I think
• 1:20:22
  I'm only getting lip syns of people
• 1:20:25
  romanticizing your song and being like
• 1:20:27
  this is the best time of my life that
• 1:20:29
  makes me so Happ I love that I love that
• 1:20:31
  wow that feels very tender actually to
• 1:20:33
  be able to create a like a parody that
• 1:20:35
  kind of holds the genre as opposed to
• 1:20:38
  one that like slaps it around yeah
• 1:20:40
  that's the goal at least I mean if I do
• 1:20:43
  it well that's what happens I hope yeah
• 1:20:46
  that's I've got a short a sort of
• 1:20:47
  general question uh it was the idea of
• 1:20:50
  like performing in character on stage
• 1:20:53
  because I feel as though
• 1:20:55
  uh three of you I don't know to what
• 1:20:56
  degree you feel you performing character
• 1:20:58
  and then you I feel I don't know if you
• 1:21:00
  switch like yeah yeah name in cuz you
• 1:21:03
  yeah I have like little interstitials
• 1:21:05
  where I'll be myself which I've gotten
• 1:21:06
  better at but like that's been the
• 1:21:08
  hardest thing to learn is to be myself
• 1:21:10
  on stage I was have you ever done like a
• 1:21:12
  standup set for 10 minutes where it's
• 1:21:13
  just you not since I first first started
• 1:21:17
  oh wow yeah and then what I went to your
• 1:21:20
  show and you did like like I saw you do
• 1:21:22
  your hour and I feel as though so part
• 1:21:25
  of the through line was also that you
• 1:21:26
  were this blonde country singer for yeah
• 1:21:29
  the whole time or something or for a
• 1:21:32
  little bit at I don't remember I don't
• 1:21:33
  remember the exact idea okay so it's
• 1:21:35
  like I'll I'll cuz did you see me with
• 1:21:37
  the band Yes yeah yeah yeah yeah was
• 1:21:39
  that in La yeah yeah yeah yeah that was
• 1:21:41
  a weird show but just like all my cuz
• 1:21:44
  now that I perform the band it's like uh
• 1:21:46
  it was a lot of industry but and they
• 1:21:47
  were weird but uh like the um like now
• 1:21:52
  that I play with a band and like each
• 1:21:55
  song is a different character like my
• 1:21:56
  new tour is going to be all standing
• 1:21:58
  room cuz it's like now become much more
• 1:22:00
  of like a concert than uh it's like a
• 1:22:04
  funny I think of it now as like a funny
• 1:22:05
  concert not like a comedy show with
• 1:22:07
  music oh that makes sense people are
• 1:22:09
  dancing yeah yeah like people do like
• 1:22:10
  dance and get up and like get you know
• 1:22:12
  and like now I realize like with the
• 1:22:15
  band The seated shows are all like way
• 1:22:17
  weirder because it's like sitting down
• 1:22:19
  for like a rock band you know like it's
• 1:22:22
  weird do people sing along yeah at for
• 1:22:24
  yeah some stuff like yeah I
• 1:22:27
  sang cool yeah that kill the English
• 1:22:29
  throw in the seage exactly the Irish
• 1:22:31
  song is the best part of the show
• 1:22:33
  because that was that was the that was
• 1:22:34
  the one
• 1:22:36
  where yeah clapped into the
• 1:22:38
  mic I like thought you were away from it
• 1:22:41
  because I because because of your volume
• 1:22:42
  it's smart but now I am now I am taking
• 1:22:45
  that same question I am coming around uh
• 1:22:48
  who do you guys feel as though you are
• 1:22:49
  yourselves or do you feel as you're
• 1:22:51
  doing different characters or like I
• 1:22:53
  don't know or Tien version of
• 1:22:56
  yourself you're all in thought um I feel
• 1:23:00
  like it's pretty much myself maybe like
• 1:23:03
  it's poking fun of myself in a l like
• 1:23:05
  I'm performing that I'm
• 1:23:07
  unaware but it's like well I wouldn't be
• 1:23:09
  making the joke in this I knew that
• 1:23:11
  sounds stupid that's the point right but
• 1:23:14
  I still feel like I'm trying to figure
• 1:23:16
  out how to be more myself on stage cuz I
• 1:23:19
  find that like I I'm so like oh like
• 1:23:22
  what would a person who does stand up
• 1:23:24
  talk like and it's like no what would
• 1:23:26
  you say so it's like I'm still trying to
• 1:23:28
  figure out how I could just be the way I
• 1:23:30
  am offstage on stage more so my end game
• 1:23:34
  is to just it's just me but I don't know
• 1:23:37
  if it feels that way yet I like I like
• 1:23:39
  what you're were saying about like
• 1:23:40
  you're playing the fool uh yeah it's
• 1:23:43
  it's the same thing with like HBO Girls
• 1:23:46
  where like people think Lena Dunham's
• 1:23:48
  stupid cuz Hannah makes bad choices and
• 1:23:51
  it's like that's the whole point she had
• 1:23:53
  to be smart to say that like or or like
• 1:23:56
  people are like Marney Michael should
• 1:23:57
  kill herself and I'm like that's the
• 1:23:59
  point like that's the commentary so it's
• 1:24:02
  like people I find sometimes like people
• 1:24:04
  can just like Miss that that is the
• 1:24:06
  thing we tal we talked about that a bit
• 1:24:09
  with subtext stuff yeah can I reveal
• 1:24:13
  what was it it was my class oh yeah I
• 1:24:15
  took a class with Benny drama
• 1:24:19
  yeah yeah wrong Benny um but yeah yeah
• 1:24:23
  but we talked about that just like like
• 1:24:26
  when when like a white guy Plays the
• 1:24:29
  Fool the audience like kind of gives
• 1:24:31
  this implicit Grace of like yes he is
• 1:24:34
  playing the fool but when like a woman
• 1:24:36
  or a person of color Plays the Fool some
• 1:24:39
  people in the audience go like ah yes an
• 1:24:41
  idiot yeah it it's so obvious like if
• 1:24:45
  you do a certain mic like people are
• 1:24:48
  laughing at like the like at you instead
• 1:24:51
  of like at the joke and it's like how do
• 1:24:54
  you how how what do you do about that
• 1:24:57
  like what are your safeguards or I'm
• 1:24:58
  just like no worries
• 1:25:00
  y'all is like it's just not for that
• 1:25:02
  people or you or do you like you let you
• 1:25:05
  know what they're still laughing who
• 1:25:07
  cares a laugh a laugh even if it's mean
• 1:25:11
  spirited there is such a thing where
• 1:25:13
  it's like I know I'm being funny I'm
• 1:25:17
  holding the mic like I'm kidding where
• 1:25:20
  sometimes one time I had this joke about
• 1:25:22
  one of my roommates having heat m
• 1:25:24
  Madness and someone kept bringing it up
• 1:25:26
  to me being like it's so funny that he
• 1:25:27
  has heat Madness and finally I went you
• 1:25:29
  know I made that up like that's not a
• 1:25:30
  real disease and he was like oh that's
• 1:25:33
  why I thought it was funny and I was
• 1:25:34
  like no it's a joke I wrote adults in
• 1:25:37
  the 21st century don't have heat Madness
• 1:25:40
  and I just did and I the person didn't
• 1:25:42
  mean any harm but I was like I just
• 1:25:43
  think if I was a man you would have
• 1:25:45
  known that I was just being goofy but
• 1:25:47
  because I said it deadpan and am a woman
• 1:25:49
  you just thought I was like repeating a
• 1:25:51
  funny fact and I I struggle with that a
• 1:25:54
  bit where I'm like no I wrote this down
• 1:25:57
  and like am being goofy you know do do
• 1:26:00
  you is that like a just like a after the
• 1:26:03
  fact you go no I was kidding or do you
• 1:26:06
  like has that changed your writing at
• 1:26:08
  all like has that infect like do you
• 1:26:09
  feel like do you feel that pressure
• 1:26:12
  sometimes I think I honestly just a
• 1:26:13
  little bit feel like if you don't get
• 1:26:15
  that I'm kidding I don't know how to
• 1:26:17
  meet you in the
• 1:26:18
  middle um and it's not something I get
• 1:26:20
  like a ton I think just demographically
• 1:26:22
  the shows I'm performing on tend to have
• 1:26:23
  audiences that get my vibe um but it is
• 1:26:26
  frustrating to sometimes pop into other
• 1:26:28
  circles and feel like how do you meet
• 1:26:30
  someone in the middle when fundamentally
• 1:26:31
  they don't understand that a woman could
• 1:26:32
  be being witty you know yeah it's
• 1:26:36
  literally it's like if somebody is
• 1:26:37
  straight up like yeah I don't know
• 1:26:40
  purely racist and sexist it's like well
• 1:26:42
  don't even come to the show yeah that's
• 1:26:45
  interesting right how how about you
• 1:26:48
  s um I feel like I'm similarly trying to
• 1:26:51
  be more myself or but it's so hard to
• 1:26:53
  act like yourself when you're being when
• 1:26:55
  you're obviously scripted and so I'm
• 1:26:57
  trying to like live in the things that
• 1:26:58
  I'm saying more and I've been using this
• 1:27:01
  to scratch my face trou is that you are
• 1:27:02
  a fool and so you have to try to you try
• 1:27:04
  to convince the crow that you're not
• 1:27:06
  really
• 1:27:08
  unaware um but yeah I'm been I'm trying
• 1:27:12
  to be looser generally and like inject
• 1:27:14
  more of myself into just the inet and
• 1:27:17
  like how I interact with people and be
• 1:27:20
  more comfortable which I I cuz when I we
• 1:27:22
  talked about this yesterday sorry we
• 1:27:25
  beat everyone to the punch already but
• 1:27:27
  when I first started I would go up and I
• 1:27:28
  would truly black out and I like would
• 1:27:30
  not remember anything that I had said or
• 1:27:32
  how people responded I could not tell
• 1:27:34
  you which jokes worked or didn't because
• 1:27:36
  I was like not in my body and so now
• 1:27:39
  even just being able to like pay
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  attention to things that are happening
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  or like I always feel proud of myself
• 1:27:43
  when I can actually respond to something
• 1:27:45
  that happened or like a sound that
• 1:27:47
  somebody made cuz I was like oh that
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  means I was actually uh being aware I
• 1:27:51
  was like living yeah while it was
• 1:27:53
  happening so I've really just been
• 1:27:55
  trying to practice those things and I
• 1:27:56
  don't really feel like I have a
• 1:27:58
  character but I I feel like it would
• 1:27:59
  almost be be I'm writing um an hour
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  right now and that it's it's a woman
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  woman show and that is really like a
• 1:28:06
  character version of myself and I'm
• 1:28:10
  finding that fun or it's like giving me
• 1:28:11
  opportunity to be more goofy because I
• 1:28:13
  feel like stand up sometimes is or at
• 1:28:15
  least my standup so straightforward um
• 1:28:17
  just like writing like uh standard
• 1:28:21
  structured jokes in like 5 to 7 minutes
• 1:28:24
  the premise was really cool by the way
• 1:28:25
  you told me about the C I don't want to
• 1:28:27
  reveal if you don't want to no I that's
• 1:28:30
  it's in it's in the blurp of the show I
• 1:28:31
  guess so I will but it's the premise is
• 1:28:34
  that in the last two generations of my
• 1:28:35
  family we've lived through four military
• 1:28:37
  coups and the second one happened the
• 1:28:39
  closing night of my Middle School
• 1:28:41
  Musical
• 1:28:43
  so that's so funny that's crazy which is
• 1:28:46
  just so crazy yeah and so at the start
• 1:28:48
  is that it's like it opens and it's the
• 1:28:50
  musical and then it gets cancelled and
• 1:28:51
  then it's basically just me like acting
• 1:28:54
  as though that coup was the worst thing
• 1:28:55
  that ever happened to me and the drama
• 1:28:57
  of it far exceeded that of like all of
• 1:29:00
  my families but actually the coups that
• 1:29:03
  my mom and grandparents live through
• 1:29:04
  that like made them political refugees
• 1:29:06
  they had to leave through Burma and she
• 1:29:07
  was undocumented when she came to the US
• 1:29:09
  blah bla and then we came here or they
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  moved me here and it's like my both my
• 1:29:13
  parents have great financial success in
• 1:29:14
  this country so it's like American Dream
• 1:29:17
  Vibes and I'm just a spoiled child of
• 1:29:20
  immigrants so I'm sort of going after
• 1:29:23
  the diaspora trauma
• 1:29:25
  thing um but the the character version
• 1:29:28
  of myself is like very annoying so it's
• 1:29:31
  pure
• 1:29:33
  fiction not
• 1:29:36
  real um but I am like trying to write in
• 1:29:39
  a voice that is annoying and that like
• 1:29:41
  people wouldn't like and to me that's
• 1:29:43
  actually super opposite of what I try to
• 1:29:44
  do in standup like in standup so that's
• 1:29:46
  generally I think I endear myself to
• 1:29:48
  people by being like sweet and effusive
• 1:29:50
  and like I speak really hyperbolically
• 1:29:52
  about things and and so to me it's like
• 1:29:55
  a it's a really different Instinct in
• 1:29:57
  voice but it is fun to write as a
• 1:29:59
  character of yourself because it just
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  feels like you open the world a little
• 1:30:03
  bit more can I give you a compliment and
• 1:30:04
  then Cut You Down sure okay well you're
• 1:30:07
  going to call me
• 1:30:09
  annoying I think you'll it's um I really
• 1:30:12
  like your substack I think you're a good
• 1:30:14
  writer and uh I don't say that to
• 1:30:17
  anybody oh my God you ever read some of
• 1:30:19
  these people's substack you go you're
• 1:30:21
  shoving up your ass I love all substack
• 1:30:24
  equally yeah true that's true there's
• 1:30:27
  there's there's a few that there's some
• 1:30:29
  that are good and then I and then
• 1:30:31
  sometimes some will have like a really
• 1:30:32
  good one they you can tell like gave
• 1:30:34
  effort to and it'll be their only one
• 1:30:36
  they ever do you know what I mean they
• 1:30:37
  like won't continue doing it cuz they're
• 1:30:39
  like that was too much work or something
• 1:30:40
  you know what I mean which I mean is a
• 1:30:42
  greater
• 1:30:45
  discussion but um yeah yours were
• 1:30:47
  actually good and readable and actually
• 1:30:50
  interesting and then now time to cut you
• 1:30:52
  down yes um you're doing music comedy
• 1:30:55
  yeah oh
• 1:30:58
  hey not a real not a real cut down just
• 1:31:00
  I I knew that I knew that this idea this
• 1:31:03
  idea of the one woman show is actually
• 1:31:05
  is it's a musical as well yeah I guess
• 1:31:07
  it's like the to shreds is that yeah
• 1:31:10
  it's um it's supposed to be it's like
• 1:31:12
  the music I
• 1:31:17
  never you two discuss it's supposed to
• 1:31:20
  be the musical I never got to do so it's
• 1:31:22
  like me whatever seasoning back the
• 1:31:25
  night I that
• 1:31:31
  oh whatever having my hour of stardom
• 1:31:35
  okay great um but yeah I have been
• 1:31:38
  that's actually mostly what I've been
• 1:31:39
  watching on YouTube also is songwriting
• 1:31:41
  tutorials I've been finding it
• 1:31:43
  challenging because I've been trying to
• 1:31:45
  I've been like reteaching myself piano
• 1:31:46
  reteaching from when I learned at the
• 1:31:48
  age of 10 and then stopped so it's like
• 1:31:51
  quite fresh and I'm actually I'm trying
• 1:31:54
  do a parody a genre parody of something
• 1:31:57
  that I'm have feeling I'm having a hard
• 1:31:58
  time with I'm trying to like parody a
• 1:32:00
  diaspora poem and but it's like diaspora
• 1:32:03
  poetry is like a really specific genre
• 1:32:06
  and I don't know that and also the thing
• 1:32:08
  of like you want to hold the genre not
• 1:32:10
  like come at it that I really feel
• 1:32:12
  because one it's like it is such a meme
• 1:32:15
  I think especially in like Asian
• 1:32:17
  immigrant like Asian-American immigrant
• 1:32:20
  communities like the rupe core of it all
• 1:32:23
  um but it's like I don't love that genre
• 1:32:25
  of poetry and it is I guess a little bit
• 1:32:27
  of hack but also I don't want to come at
• 1:32:28
  it too hard because it means a lot to
• 1:32:30
  many people and it's kind of
• 1:32:33
  generational but anyways so well I
• 1:32:36
  wonder the idea of holding it and not
• 1:32:37
  attacking is that kind of what you were
• 1:32:38
  saying before with the he like it's like
• 1:32:40
  holding it not necessarily being like a
• 1:32:43
  value judgment of like this is bad like
• 1:32:46
  just being and not to I mean in my
• 1:32:49
  experience it's like you can sort of
• 1:32:51
  avoid that best by really leaning into
• 1:32:55
  like authenticity and precision so it's
• 1:32:57
  like if you're
• 1:32:58
  being if you're if it's if it's a really
• 1:33:01
  close authentic Recreation of the genre
• 1:33:04
  and you're like accurately and precisely
• 1:33:06
  identifying the tropes then I think
• 1:33:09
  you'll be surp because there also I've
• 1:33:11
  only really started to release genre
• 1:33:14
  parities and music to like the public
• 1:33:16
  over the last like year and a half and a
• 1:33:17
  lot of them especially with the first
• 1:33:19
  album I was so worried as to how it
• 1:33:22
  would be received like
• 1:33:24
  and whether like people would view it as
• 1:33:26
  like cutting down something that they
• 1:33:28
  love but in my experience like when the
• 1:33:30
  things I've done have worked well and
• 1:33:32
  some of them I was like worried about
• 1:33:33
  like how it would be received even
• 1:33:36
  people who love it as long as they can
• 1:33:39
  see that you are like decently
• 1:33:42
  knowledgeable about the subject that
• 1:33:44
  you're parodying and it's like and
• 1:33:47
  you've accurately identify all the like
• 1:33:49
  funny tropes like they can see that it's
• 1:33:51
  you know even people who love and like
• 1:33:53
  cherish the genre can also be like and
• 1:33:56
  that's what I was saying like I love
• 1:33:57
  when people react this way of like I
• 1:33:59
  love you know I you know an emo song I
• 1:34:02
  did like is a good example of that like
• 1:34:04
  they were like I I love like emo kids
• 1:34:07
  come to my shows and like I'm doing a
• 1:34:09
  parody of emo in my set and they're like
• 1:34:12
  they love it cuz they're like I get I
• 1:34:15
  love it you can never make me stop
• 1:34:17
  loving it but I get that these tropes
• 1:34:19
  actually do exist and you're like right
• 1:34:21
  about it so like not to go on a long wed
• 1:34:24
  thing but like in my experience that's
• 1:34:26
  been a good way to sort of like avoid it
• 1:34:30
  avoid coming across as like
• 1:34:33
  condescending authentic Precision caring
• 1:34:36
  about it doing real patterns that's kind
• 1:34:39
  of what you're trying to you're yeah
• 1:34:41
  yeah that was insightful um but for the
• 1:34:44
  most part all the music is like fairly
• 1:34:45
  simple and I'm just playing and doing my
• 1:34:48
  best that's what's up D I am curious I'm
• 1:34:52
  curious about larger projects in general
• 1:34:54
  and so that's what that's what cea's up
• 1:34:56
  to dude also now you're dying it seems
• 1:34:58
  you choke on something you're right
• 1:35:00
  dude yeah go ahead yeah you're good oh
• 1:35:04
  my God you okay yeah okay it literally
• 1:35:08
  made her
• 1:35:10
  vomit there a genre parody of a good
• 1:35:13
  podcast doing now I'm CA oh
• 1:35:18
  please I have a bob and freckles and I'm
• 1:35:23
  so
• 1:35:26
  sweet this is CA this is Audrey this is
• 1:35:28
  CA you understand voice difference is
• 1:35:35
  uncanny I'm Cur I'm curious what you got
• 1:35:37
  if you got a long longer project or if
• 1:35:39
  you're like still kind of feeling out
• 1:35:42
  the game because I I saw you say that
• 1:35:46
  you was like your anniversary doing
• 1:35:47
  standup or something oh yeah well I is a
• 1:35:50
  fiveyear anniversary of the first time I
• 1:35:52
  ever did standup but of course if you're
• 1:35:54
  doing the math five years ago um yeah
• 1:35:57
  the world did immediately shut down and
• 1:35:59
  so then I didn't do it again like live
• 1:36:01
  for a really long time but it was the
• 1:36:02
  first time I got on stage and like held
• 1:36:04
  a mic um I was studying abroad and like
• 1:36:07
  joined a sketch group abroad so the
• 1:36:08
  first time I did stand up was for
• 1:36:09
  British teenagers oh my literal dream
• 1:36:13
  yeah yeah um but yeah I I I really feel
• 1:36:17
  like I've been doing it in a real way
• 1:36:18
  for maybe like two years because I like
• 1:36:22
  after that didn't do it live for a
• 1:36:24
  really long time just cuz I didn't I I
• 1:36:26
  know was never in a mic scene I was just
• 1:36:27
  like doing stuff there and then
• 1:36:29
  obviously I can't couldn't still
• 1:36:31
  participate in England and didn't know
• 1:36:33
  the Dall and then I moved back to Dallas
• 1:36:35
  and did stuff in the Dallas scene like
• 1:36:36
  totally a little bit later um I well I
• 1:36:39
  guess my our general question or idea is
• 1:36:41
  do you have some sort of do you yet have
• 1:36:45
  medium or long-term vision of it like
• 1:36:48
  are you like I would like to do a
• 1:36:49
  special or I would like to write or like
• 1:36:52
  like what's do you have a goal AR
• 1:36:53
  texture yet or are you still like let me
• 1:36:55
  see what I'm feeling generally I think
• 1:36:59
  my goal is maybe twofold one is that I
• 1:37:01
  love doing best night ever and I am
• 1:37:03
  trying to do newer fresher stuff each
• 1:37:07
  time I feel better and better night each
• 1:37:09
  time more like U yeah best best time
• 1:37:12
  every single time more like I feel like
• 1:37:13
  in the beginning when I was really
• 1:37:15
  getting my sea legs performing I like um
• 1:37:18
  sorry I'm super allergic to cats is it
• 1:37:20
  okay are you really I'm going to kick
• 1:37:21
  him out of here sorry the hell out
• 1:37:24
  you're [ __ ] out the flow dude I'm so
• 1:37:26
  sorry but if I'm in a room this small
• 1:37:28
  with the cat I'm going to get hived so
• 1:37:30
  sorry this is something that really
• 1:37:32
  derails my life because I'm friends with
• 1:37:33
  cat people like I really get along with
• 1:37:36
  you have cat girl energy to you so it's
• 1:37:38
  really inconvenient I can't touch them I
• 1:37:40
  I I'm less allergic to dogs than I am
• 1:37:42
  cats but I really can't be around small
• 1:37:43
  animals or animals so that's your
• 1:37:45
  longterm goal my long-term goal is yeah
• 1:37:47
  to finally
• 1:37:49
  um friends don't have cat sorry sorry um
• 1:37:54
  but yeah I think just like getting
• 1:37:55
  better at hosting and trying to be
• 1:37:58
  braver with like trying really new stuff
• 1:38:01
  and just working it out in front of a
• 1:38:03
  big audience um you're in an
• 1:38:04
  experimental phase you're like yeah
• 1:38:06
  you're kind of like yeah absolutely and
• 1:38:08
  the last couple shows I've like gone up
• 1:38:09
  andone like stuff that I kind of tweaked
• 1:38:12
  and a few things that I hadn't even
• 1:38:13
  really I don't know just like trying to
• 1:38:15
  be braver and trust my instincts and I
• 1:38:18
  that's been good and then um I'd like to
• 1:38:21
  have a I did like a taped 10 minutes in
• 1:38:25
  October that felt like okay that's and
• 1:38:28
  it it was with cracked so it was like
• 1:38:30
  that's that and then um I want to do a
• 1:38:33
  tape 20 I just don't want to jump
• 1:38:35
  straight to 30 I think sometimes people
• 1:38:37
  do that really fast and I don't think
• 1:38:38
  that's my trajectory because I think I
• 1:38:40
  could talk for 30 minutes I think part
• 1:38:42
  of it is like having the stage presence
• 1:38:44
  to keep people's attention on you and so
• 1:38:45
  that's something I'm working on so I
• 1:38:47
  would say I love fast I never I'm always
• 1:38:49
  trying to build that to be like bigger
• 1:38:51
  and stronger and work on my hosting live
• 1:38:54
  and then also I think my next like
• 1:38:56
  milestone for myself personally is just
• 1:38:58
  to have like a cohesive 20 h i I feel
• 1:39:01
  that uh I have my first 30 filmed and
• 1:39:05
  you can see me fall apart uh like 15 to
• 1:39:08
  20 in and I'm just like I start looking
• 1:39:10
  at my note cards between every joke I
• 1:39:12
  like have them on the stool and I'm like
• 1:39:13
  all right just look in real quick and
• 1:39:15
  like I'll be right back on track and
• 1:39:16
  then I do it between every joke and the
• 1:39:18
  momentum just dies and uh yeah maybe
• 1:39:20
  I'll send it to you so you can feel
• 1:39:23
  better yourself I start doing I start
• 1:39:24
  doing crowd
• 1:39:26
  [Music]
• 1:39:27
  work like it like it
• 1:39:29
  sucks but uh but yeah so no I feel you
• 1:39:32
  don't about jumping into that deepend
• 1:39:34
  but we I can promo I guess even though
• 1:39:36
  we don't got we're
• 1:39:40
  doing with CA and we're all doing
• 1:39:43
  twin you guys we've kind of just started
• 1:39:46
  planning splitting an hour we've been
• 1:39:47
  reaching out to venues and to no avail
• 1:39:50
  yeah yeah but we're eventually at some
• 1:39:52
  point in the next
• 1:39:53
  couple months we've decided that we all
• 1:39:56
  wanted to do 20 and have that be like
• 1:39:57
  our next thing so at some point we're
• 1:39:58
  doing 20 what about that have you reach
• 1:40:01
  out to the gutter cuz I feel like that's
• 1:40:03
  been the M oh yeah yes we've reached out
• 1:40:05
  to the
• 1:40:06
  gutter hon honestly so did I and they
• 1:40:09
  didn't get back so I don't know what
• 1:40:10
  that like like are they paying attention
• 1:40:12
  their emails I'm like what are we doing
• 1:40:14
  I think so many venues that we think of
• 1:40:15
  as comedy venues are actually so sick of
• 1:40:17
  Hosting comedy shows kind of yeah no
• 1:40:20
  talking to [ __ ] about people in the
• 1:40:22
  scene but buildings in the the scene
• 1:40:24
  fair game yeah well it's like you would
• 1:40:26
  be surprised who we've emailed you that
• 1:40:28
  you would think has uses comedy all the
• 1:40:29
  time that's been like actually we're not
• 1:40:30
  taking more comedy shows like it's not
• 1:40:32
  even about why wouldn't they like it
• 1:40:33
  though I feel like it's like free money
• 1:40:35
  I know you know soap easiest like the my
• 1:40:40
  favorite is like well like the Bell
• 1:40:41
  House is a perfect example of a venue
• 1:40:43
  that so clearly like as soon as they
• 1:40:46
  could make the transition I think from
• 1:40:48
  like music to Comedy cuz I think back in
• 1:40:51
  the day they used to do more bands and
• 1:40:53
  stuff and I think they were like once
• 1:40:56
  they started getting like a comedy scene
• 1:40:58
  going they're like we're never going
• 1:41:00
  back like just cuz it's such a bigger
• 1:41:02
  headache to put on any comedy is the
• 1:41:05
  easiest thing to put on less messy a guy
• 1:41:08
  in a microphone yeah oh wow anytime you
• 1:41:10
  have to move a drum kit your day is just
• 1:41:13
  worse I oh my God but I do think like
• 1:41:17
  people going to do stuff would rather go
• 1:41:19
  see a bad music show than a bad comedy
• 1:41:22
  show
• 1:41:23
  so for a venue's perspective if they're
• 1:41:25
  like trying to like build a Vibe or like
• 1:41:28
  like kind of like what is it called
• 1:41:31
  status in like Brooklyn's like night
• 1:41:33
  life becoming like seen as like an Indie
• 1:41:36
  comedy venue where like they don't
• 1:41:38
  necessarily get to see like who's
• 1:41:41
  performing what the vibe is it's better
• 1:41:43
  for them to like have a band plus ticket
• 1:41:47
  sales are you can charge more for music
• 1:41:50
  and people who go to music shows
• 1:41:53
  understand they able to walk to the bar
• 1:41:55
  and what yeah so like if they're
• 1:41:57
  thinking of like hosting comedy night
• 1:41:58
  versus like a music night they're
• 1:41:59
  looking at like double the sales in
• 1:42:01
  alcohol if they like host a band also
• 1:42:03
  coming to you now
• 1:42:06
  what but also yeah I mean I like I like
• 1:42:09
  hear about these like kind of what's
• 1:42:11
  happening with people's AR like like you
• 1:42:13
  know what are you up to in the scene
• 1:42:15
  what's you know what I mean and so I'm
• 1:42:17
  curious like uh do you have some what
• 1:42:21
  you got these podcasts
• 1:42:23
  kind big project what's your projects
• 1:42:25
  you got any like thing working on I'm
• 1:42:27
  kind of classic like I hope people
• 1:42:29
  listen to my podcast and come to my live
• 1:42:32
  show um but no ultimately like I kind of
• 1:42:36
  want to be like Alex Cooper kind of like
• 1:42:39
  um or like we re Witherspoon like my
• 1:42:42
  endgame is of course to be the CEO of
• 1:42:45
  like a company that tells women stories
• 1:42:47
  and like empowers a bunch of like female
• 1:42:50
  girl bosses so awesome not be crazy
• 1:42:54
  totally totally was that that was that
• 1:42:56
  was genuine yeah cuz yeah yeah cuz I
• 1:42:58
  think you started it did sound like a
• 1:43:00
  joke that was a little bit of the
• 1:43:01
  opposite situation where I'm ready to
• 1:43:03
  listen to women be
• 1:43:07
  funny but uh
• 1:43:10
  yeah
• 1:43:12
  uh but know that's cool the what the
• 1:43:15
  podcast thing like that took off more
• 1:43:17
  than like like when you start doing a
• 1:43:19
  podcast my own for example I'm not I'm
• 1:43:22
  like I don't know why people listen to
• 1:43:23
  podcast like I don't know why people
• 1:43:25
  listen welcome though but that's it's
• 1:43:28
  like going well right like people are
• 1:43:29
  like you actually have like a good one
• 1:43:31
  like it's like you have a good podcast
• 1:43:33
  that people are enjoying it's yeah it's
• 1:43:35
  fun I mean I ultimately like would love
• 1:43:39
  to not have to do so much homework for
• 1:43:42
  podcast just cuz it's like oh I really
• 1:43:44
  have to like dissect the show and it's
• 1:43:46
  like me and Evan never claimed to be
• 1:43:48
  actually good at analyzing we just
• 1:43:50
  wanted to be like quirky and it's like
• 1:43:53
  then it became a thing where people
• 1:43:55
  wanted us to be like culturally like
• 1:43:57
  criticizing things and we're like
• 1:43:59
  actually we're just like comics and
• 1:44:01
  Brooklyn like we don't know [ __ ] and our
• 1:44:04
  and our guests don't know [ __ ] like
• 1:44:05
  we're literally just trying to have fun
• 1:44:07
  but now people know that though or or
• 1:44:09
  have you gotten better at the criticism
• 1:44:11
  is that what you're saying I feel like
• 1:44:12
  we've posted so many things online that
• 1:44:15
  there was like a year in this turn we
• 1:44:17
  like for the first year we pretty much
• 1:44:18
  only got hate comments and then suddenly
• 1:44:21
  people were like they are so smart at
• 1:44:24
  this or like I trust what they say and
• 1:44:27
  it's like oh just because like your
• 1:44:29
  brain saw me enough that your brain
• 1:44:31
  convinced you that now I'm a trustworthy
• 1:44:33
  boys but I'm literally not different
• 1:44:35
  than I was day one um I mean maybe I've
• 1:44:38
  gotten a little smarter but I doubt
• 1:44:40
  it people who were being mean like super
• 1:44:44
  fans yeah like there's a Reddit thread
• 1:44:47
  that's pretty um they're roasting Us in
• 1:44:49
  all the right ways it's like yeah you're
• 1:44:51
  absolutely right you should listen to
• 1:44:52
  people people who are 30 instead of 24
• 1:44:54
  talking about this like you'd be much
• 1:44:56
  happier listening to nonc comedians talk
• 1:44:59
  about this from a like different point
• 1:45:01
  of view but did any of the criticism get
• 1:45:04
  to you in a way that you changed and
• 1:45:05
  that's also an open thing of like have
• 1:45:07
  you ever read a negative comment in gone
• 1:45:08
  like yeah I'm going to change that now
• 1:45:10
  like your name in
• 1:45:12
  never it makes me want to double down
• 1:45:18
  on absolutely me and Evan definitely
• 1:45:20
  were like we're going to start sounding
• 1:45:24
  smarter um I also want to know if you
• 1:45:26
  guys have like if a worst comment cuz I
• 1:45:28
  have one come to mind immediately was
• 1:45:29
  like a they somehow had like a a
• 1:45:32
  swastika symbol in their like handle I
• 1:45:34
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• 1:45:37
  wolf his Abby was a wolf and it was like
• 1:45:40
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• 1:45:47
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• 1:45:49
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• 1:45:51
  improve sorry what not yeah I uh yeah I
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  get a lot of that you get a lot of what
• 1:45:57
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• 1:45:58
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  well it's like well I get it from like
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  anti-semites and then also Jews who are
• 1:46:07
  like stand up for your
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  race like you're a you're a race traitor
• 1:46:14
  wait I don't get any of that oh yeah I
• 1:46:15
  get wait are you but is that because
• 1:46:18
  you're saying stuff that is like Pro
• 1:46:20
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• 1:46:22
  or is it like a do a they're like it's
• 1:46:24
  like because I do a character that's
• 1:46:27
  like a country a female country singer
• 1:46:28
  and that's I'm not talk you know it's
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  like cuz I'm not addressing any of it so
• 1:46:32
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  am I getting why am I getting well word
• 1:46:39
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• 1:46:40
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• 1:46:43
  don't think people can't tell yeah you
• 1:46:45
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• 1:46:58
  Jerusalem Post but like when plan of the
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  Bas came out like you know it fair game
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  it's like every Jewish magazine was like
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  oh a Jews behind this so I did a I did
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  an interview with um every like the uh
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  what was it like the Jewish times of
• 1:47:14
  London the Jewish Kik today yeah yeah
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  yeah exactly yeah uh yeah every we the
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  Jews you guys AR Jewish we're not Jewish
• 1:47:24
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• 1:47:27
  in the church we're Protestants um but
• 1:47:29
  lots of people think I'm Jewish because
• 1:47:31
  of my
• 1:47:33
  vibe I see that you know you know what I
• 1:47:36
  would read you as the sort of person
• 1:47:38
  people would guess as Jewish but
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  incorrectly thank you for seeing
• 1:47:43
  me yeah we're such we're very much girls
• 1:47:46
  that grew up in like the like Protestant
• 1:47:49
  Texas Church yeah although I find people
• 1:47:52
  when I say from Texas are like oh I
• 1:47:54
  never would have guessed that and I'm
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  like why not I'm doing I I sometimes I'm
• 1:48:00
  like but you don't understand like I'm
• 1:48:01
  actually doing what it's like there like
• 1:48:03
  literally perfectly yeah I'm like you
• 1:48:05
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• 1:48:07
  monogram people don't know what Texas
• 1:48:09
  like I mean people are like so it's like
• 1:48:11
  the desert yeah they're like say you
• 1:48:13
  rode horses to school yeah can't I'm
• 1:48:16
  horribly
• 1:48:17
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• 1:48:19
  allergic to everything what's going on
• 1:48:21
  with you yeah I went to grosa camp in uh
• 1:48:24
  5 minutes into the 2-hour horseback ride
• 1:48:27
  up Mountain we learned I have a pretty
• 1:48:28
  severe allergy no's are a state of
• 1:48:32
  mind and then the horse got spooked by
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  an armadillo and ran off with just me
• 1:48:36
  and because it was a narrow mountain
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  path uh I had to steer it back but my
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  face was swolling so I couldn't really
• 1:48:42
  see and then we got off the horse my mom
• 1:48:44
  took me to the drugstore nearby and the
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  man thought I had a really horrible
• 1:48:47
  disease oh wow bringing up the armadillo
• 1:48:50
  thing like really isn't helping our cha
• 1:48:52
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• 1:48:54
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• 1:48:58
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  Horseback oh my god oh wait also if I
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  to see time or just the W see when I've
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  check how are we feeling anybody need to
• 1:49:19
  run anybody want to run I've lost all
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  I'll give you I'll let you soon I see it
• 1:49:25
  in your eyes if you want I don't know
• 1:49:26
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• 1:49:30
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• 1:49:32
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• 1:49:34
  here I might need to use the bathroom
• 1:49:37
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  [ __ ] should we take a five we can take a
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  five wall that's still going okay so
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• 1:49:46
  let's take a five wall it goes let's
• 1:49:48
  pretend it let's pretend it's off and
• 1:49:49
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• 1:49:51
  you want I'm just going to like be
• 1:49:52
  myself yeah everybody if anybody wants
• 1:49:55
  W we're taking five but the camera's
• 1:49:57
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• 1:49:59
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• 1:50:04
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• 1:50:06
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• 1:50:08
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• 1:50:12
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• 1:50:15
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• 1:50:16
  able to hear anything they say in this
• 1:50:17
  time frame now we can talk [ __ ] oh yeah
• 1:50:21
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• 1:50:22
  [ __ ] block and X and Y and
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  Z you can you cut this I can cut that
• 1:50:29
  specific moment okay I'm going to Disney
• 1:50:32
  World next month
• 1:50:34
  who I'm so excited I love it there I've
• 1:50:38
  never been what to any of the Disney
• 1:50:41
  anything no come with
• 1:50:44
  me every girl should gets to go to
• 1:50:46
  Disney
• 1:50:48
  World uh going with a group I'm going
• 1:50:51
  with my stepmom and my step sisters and
• 1:50:54
  my dad's coming at the end
• 1:50:56
  um my my stepmom texted me and was like
• 1:51:00
  we have so many points on a very
• 1:51:02
  specific credit card that can only
• 1:51:04
  essentially be used at Disney World and
• 1:51:06
  they have to be used soon do you want to
• 1:51:08
  go and I was like absolutely I do I'm 26
• 1:51:11
  years old there's nothing I'd rather do
• 1:51:13
  wait do you know what credit card I
• 1:51:15
  don't I didn't ask crazy is Disney World
• 1:51:18
  the one in La um that's Disney L Florida
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  Lord by my sister's like 12 and it's
• 1:51:26
  like teens at a theme park that's like
• 1:51:28
  the meaning of life so F I'm
• 1:51:34
  ready you didn't miss much yeah wait can
• 1:51:38
  you guys say everything you just said
• 1:51:39
  again just I'm part of things I'm going
• 1:51:42
  to Disney when March 7th have you been
• 1:51:46
  before or 11th I've been so many times
• 1:51:50
  are you going with your family or are
• 1:51:51
  you going like solo trip find yourself
• 1:51:53
  it's just a I'm finding myself in this
• 1:51:55
  world that's so funny that's funny prise
• 1:51:59
  I wouldn't put it past myself I honestly
• 1:52:01
  like I was kidding but then I imagine if
• 1:52:03
  You' been like yeah I would have locked
• 1:52:05
  in immediately like for sure course for
• 1:52:07
  sure it's like I'm going to find myself
• 1:52:09
  in the animal kingdom well I wouldn't be
• 1:52:11
  shocked if they had some find yourself
• 1:52:13
  Yoga Retreat at Disney I feel like
• 1:52:14
  they've got everything
• 1:52:17
  totally I wish that Yoga Retreat had
• 1:52:19
  fixed me but yeah I hear you
• 1:52:23
  I'm excited to watch by lotus it was it
• 1:52:26
  lacked I thought the subtlety of some of
• 1:52:28
  the other of the other two seasons but
• 1:52:31
  I'm still excited for the rest I feel
• 1:52:32
  like it would be so much pressure to be
• 1:52:34
  writer for That season yeah I think did
• 1:52:37
  they have writers or did Mike White just
• 1:52:38
  write the whole thing oh is that what he
• 1:52:40
  does I think he just does it but that
• 1:52:43
  should be a lot fact
• 1:52:45
  checked fact check season CU season one
• 1:52:48
  and two it's like okay now the form is
• 1:52:49
  like fully established or like season
• 1:52:51
  two was so establishing
• 1:52:52
  for the for what it will be and it was
• 1:52:55
  so good
• 1:52:56
  also a lot it is a lot of pressure for
• 1:52:58
  season 3 the season two of every show is
• 1:53:00
  so good usually yeah PR but I find that
• 1:53:05
  the cast for the season is not as hot as
• 1:53:07
  the first two that is kind of a huge
• 1:53:09
  part of the appeal yeah the second
• 1:53:11
  season had a really gorgeous cast I mean
• 1:53:12
  Aubrey Plaza is so charismatic else I'm
• 1:53:15
  obsessed with Megan Fahy oh my God yeah
• 1:53:18
  bring her back yeah although she's doing
• 1:53:21
  a horror movie and I wish she it wasn't
• 1:53:23
  horror cuz I like her but I hate horror
• 1:53:26
  yeah I'm like be in a movie I want to
• 1:53:28
  see you guys want to come back in yeah
• 1:53:30
  yeah welcome
• 1:53:34
  back how we feel I've been enjoying
• 1:53:36
  doing these big groups cuz like having
• 1:53:38
  one person on a time is a lot of fun but
• 1:53:40
  then I'm also like it's cool to get the
• 1:53:42
  dynamic between the people and see the
• 1:53:44
  you know what I mean cuz people then
• 1:53:46
  people are like oh I have this thought I
• 1:53:48
  don't know you guys ever watch The Green
• 1:53:50
  Room with Paul
• 1:53:51
  Penza oh is is that the punk band one no
• 1:53:54
  no no that's oh I'm thinking of what's
• 1:53:56
  the one where the the horror movie about
• 1:53:58
  the punk band gets attacked by the white
• 1:54:01
  supremacist that's not it is that the
• 1:54:03
  Green Room damn no no the okay the this
• 1:54:07
  this is essentially what the green room
• 1:54:08
  with Paul prenza was oh oh yes yes yes
• 1:54:11
  yes yes yes you guys might recognize
• 1:54:13
  remember because you sent it to me as a
• 1:54:14
  reference when describing what we were
• 1:54:16
  gonna do yes yes exactly exactly it's um
• 1:54:19
  uh comedian Paul prenza would have this
• 1:54:22
  comedians on in this scen room think did
• 1:54:24
  in front of like a live audience though
• 1:54:26
  so that's where it's different and can't
• 1:54:27
  be sued can't sue me for this um Paul he
• 1:54:31
  was uh uh I don't know exactly what his
• 1:54:34
  last name provenza he was a comedian um
• 1:54:37
  this you might have recognize like clips
• 1:54:39
  of this where it's like an episode it's
• 1:54:40
  like Bo Burnham Ray Romano Jud
• 1:54:50
  app your t
• 1:54:52
  yeah so this is this is that but now
• 1:54:56
  this kind of I got to check it anytime I
• 1:54:58
  watch anything that like a man is in I'm
• 1:55:00
  like legit proud of
• 1:55:02
  myself I'm like I'm doing the
• 1:55:06
  work research
• 1:55:10
  yeah so awesome well oh I just started
• 1:55:13
  Seance oh started SE and so good but I
• 1:55:17
  literally was like writing in my journal
• 1:55:18
  like just started SS wish there were
• 1:55:20
  more girls in it
• 1:55:23
  I was thinking about that where it is
• 1:55:24
  just a lot of like nervous men it's
• 1:55:27
  nervous men and then the it's like okay
• 1:55:29
  I like the brother or the sister the
• 1:55:31
  pregnant sister but then it's like why
• 1:55:34
  does her why does her husband get to be
• 1:55:37
  having so many lines I actually agree
• 1:55:40
  and feel the same way so but I I also
• 1:55:43
  started suffer this weekend just I feel
• 1:55:45
  like everyone's talking about it and I
• 1:55:46
  needed to finally put in the work and
• 1:55:47
  did you guys get to I'm not caught up
• 1:55:49
  though I'm I'm in season two now
• 1:55:53
  the first two episodes oh further than
• 1:55:56
  me oh I watched season one like over the
• 1:55:59
  last couple been so much paying
• 1:56:00
  attention I just want to I'll say just
• 1:56:02
  this one thing which is the you guys do
• 1:56:04
  you know know rajat pardon you guys know
• 1:56:07
  uh the comedian rajat rajat and Jeremy
• 1:56:10
  he's in the show and it's like a it's
• 1:56:12
  you just go like oh [ __ ] it's rajat wait
• 1:56:14
  I I did okay I did recognize I was like
• 1:56:16
  that's a comedian very in the show is it
• 1:56:19
  Zach Cherry is that his name yeah yeah
• 1:56:22
  yeah yeah I'm like you're a UCB
• 1:56:25
  improvisor that was my experience I was
• 1:56:27
  like you're really good at the Herold
• 1:56:30
  well I got really into what we do in the
• 1:56:31
  shadows I'd watched a lot of it over the
• 1:56:34
  years but I like did a big rewatch and
• 1:56:36
  almost every guest star is like a comic
• 1:56:40
  um if it's not like a big name famous
• 1:56:42
  person they do have one joke where they
• 1:56:43
  bring in the guy from impactable
• 1:56:45
  Impractical Jokers and they act like
• 1:56:47
  he's going to be a guest star but then
• 1:56:48
  they get annoyed with him and kill him
• 1:56:49
  immediately um so they do that to famous
• 1:56:51
  people but then every like character
• 1:56:52
  that shows up for like two to three
• 1:56:54
  episodes is fully like um jam Linn
• 1:56:57
  Watson is in an episode and like um
• 1:56:59
  Veronica is cool is in an episode I st I
• 1:57:03
  stopped I haven't watched the latest
• 1:57:04
  season or two it's really I just think
• 1:57:06
  the writing is really good and the
• 1:57:08
  characters it's so character driven and
• 1:57:09
  not plot driven in a way that I like
• 1:57:12
  like they usually have like one
• 1:57:13
  overarching plot per season that they
• 1:57:15
  kind of like abandon and come back to an
• 1:57:16
  aband and come back to and I like I just
• 1:57:18
  like character driven comedy the movie
• 1:57:20
  was so good too but uh Kristen Shaw in
• 1:57:23
  the in the show she's great she's great
• 1:57:26
  that's like you know the ability to go
• 1:57:27
  from like cuz she was like an all comic
• 1:57:29
  yeah when I was earli when we talking
• 1:57:31
  talking about like kind of talking about
• 1:57:32
  like shows that were in the scene before
• 1:57:34
  I think she might have had like a show
• 1:57:36
  that was like there was like a time
• 1:57:37
  where like Kristen Shaw was part of the
• 1:57:39
  imagine being part of this Brooklyn
• 1:57:40
  scene in like 2012 and it's just like
• 1:57:42
  you hanging out with John meany and
• 1:57:45
  Christian Shaw and Pete Holmes and
• 1:57:47
  Reggie Watts or who I don't even know
• 1:57:48
  what the hell that was going on but I
• 1:57:50
  don't know you know what I mean it's
• 1:57:52
  kind of neat people will be saying that
• 1:57:54
  about this
• 1:57:57
  WOW on podcast too bad they shot him
• 1:58:01
  into
• 1:58:06
  space yeah do you guys think it will get
• 1:58:08
  shot in the space do you think he'll go
• 1:58:10
  I don't think I think there're shooting
• 1:58:11
  people in his space but it will not be
• 1:58:13
  us yeah we're not going yeah I'm not
• 1:58:15
  going I'm not going I don't really want
• 1:58:17
  to I don't understand how like
• 1:58:20
  apocalypse shows happen because it I'm
• 1:58:23
  not convinced that people want to live
• 1:58:25
  that bad I exact same way I was talking
• 1:58:29
  about um I was watching sence with Alex
• 1:58:31
  and I was talking to her about this
• 1:58:32
  where I was like um I know that in an
• 1:58:36
  apocalypse zombie situation I'm killing
• 1:58:39
  myself I don't I if I don't have access
• 1:58:42
  to running water and can't take a shower
• 1:58:44
  like I'm letting myself die I don't have
• 1:58:47
  that dog in me I don't care but what do
• 1:58:49
  you do in a situation that's Severance
• 1:58:51
  where it's like you're kind of being
• 1:58:52
  psychologically tortured and I was
• 1:58:53
  trying to figure out if I would be like
• 1:58:55
  really trying to give out or when I
• 1:58:57
  would give in but I think in Apocalypse
• 1:58:59
  if I'm physically uncomfortable I'm
• 1:59:00
  caving immediately I really I don't like
• 1:59:02
  to be dirty I don't like to be tired I
• 1:59:05
  won't live a life where I have to be
• 1:59:06
  that most of the time I'm just like
• 1:59:09
  these they'll do like like girls will
• 1:59:12
  get like fall in love and get married
• 1:59:14
  and have children in the apocalypse I'm
• 1:59:16
  like I won't even do that right now like
• 1:59:19
  why would I do in those circumstances a
• 1:59:21
  sex City Line in Manhattan you're always
• 1:59:23
  looking for like a job a boyfriend or a
• 1:59:26
  new apartment in the apocalypse you're
• 1:59:27
  always looking for all
• 1:59:31
  three okay sex of the city head over
• 1:59:34
  here I watched a few episodes and I was
• 1:59:37
  really like I this is deeply unrelatable
• 1:59:39
  from a financial
• 1:59:41
  perspective and I had to stop it was
• 1:59:43
  good it was really well written though I
• 1:59:45
  unfortunately watched it after I watched
• 1:59:47
  like Broad City and girls and for me I'm
• 1:59:50
  just like they they are always like
• 1:59:52
  dealing with these boys like they should
• 1:59:54
  go have some
• 1:59:55
  fun like I'm so like past the like thing
• 1:59:58
  of like centering men like that so I'm
• 2:00:00
  like what but what does Samantha do on
• 2:00:03
  her night off
• 2:00:05
  yeah is that what is that okay uh we got
• 2:00:09
  Sex in the City are girls in Broad City
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  in conversation explicitly with sex in
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  the city in some like are they response
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  to totally absolutely but I think it's
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  like um
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  nice I think girls is so like the
• 2:00:26
  millennial version but it's also like
• 2:00:28
  sex in the city they're in their 30s
• 2:00:29
  they already know what they want they've
• 2:00:31
  already kind of established themselves
• 2:00:32
  but Broad City and girls it's like they
• 2:00:34
  don't know what they want to be when
• 2:00:35
  they grow up they don't have any kind of
• 2:00:37
  clear idea or like structure around like
• 2:00:41
  what they think is right and wrong
• 2:00:42
  necessarily in the way that like I think
• 2:00:45
  Sex In The City is also written as like
• 2:00:47
  those are four vignettes of like a type
• 2:00:49
  of person whereas like girls in Broad
• 2:00:51
  City seem a little bit more like random
• 2:00:54
  or situational maybe I don't know if
• 2:00:57
  that's maybe I haven't seen enough but
• 2:00:59
  that's yeah SE that's like boring to
• 2:01:01
  talk about no literally I asked
• 2:01:03
  literally I was like I I'm interested
• 2:01:05
  well I like seeing how the culture
• 2:01:07
  changes sorry yeah oh sorry um I watched
• 2:01:10
  BR City for the first time like a couple
• 2:01:12
  months ago I I watched it and the thing
• 2:01:15
  I just kept thinking about and it's kind
• 2:01:17
  of similar with girls is that it starts
• 2:01:18
  when they're so young and the longer it
• 2:01:20
  runs and the more they don't learn the
• 2:01:21
  the more it starts to be like oh
• 2:01:25
  no we like it when you're like 22 and
• 2:01:28
  you're in like a situationship with that
• 2:01:30
  guy Lincoln and you're like running
• 2:01:31
  around and getting drunk all the time
• 2:01:32
  you have no money but then by the end
• 2:01:33
  she's starting like 2930 and she's
• 2:01:35
  acting the same and it's starting to be
• 2:01:37
  like I'm not laughing anymore cuz I'm
• 2:01:39
  worried about you I can't and girls was
• 2:01:42
  that way too where like by the end I was
• 2:01:44
  like you guys you can't keep learning
• 2:01:46
  the same
• 2:01:48
  lessons yeah we always talk about that
• 2:01:50
  in the show where it's like Abby
• 2:01:52
  Jacobson and elic Laser had to be so
• 2:01:54
  smart and so organized and so competent
• 2:01:57
  to like do what they did but then
• 2:01:59
  they're writing for like a version of
• 2:02:01
  themselves that never did that so I'm
• 2:02:04
  like if they're on season five of Broad
• 2:02:06
  City it's like they weren't like being
• 2:02:08
  they were never those people that they
• 2:02:10
  were now having to write stories about
• 2:02:12
  like them messing up and they're like
• 2:02:14
  really like they're like directors and
• 2:02:16
  like producers and stuff so it's like
• 2:02:18
  yeah what would a girl who never stopped
• 2:02:21
  like working at a like be up to like how
• 2:02:24
  do you write for that St cuz her that
• 2:02:26
  the characters are such self-inserts but
• 2:02:27
  then they go in the opposite direction
• 2:02:28
  where like the characters want creative
• 2:02:30
  things like Abby wants to be an artist
• 2:02:33
  and she like draws all the time and she
• 2:02:35
  wants to be an artist and then it starts
• 2:02:36
  to be like but you've never put this
• 2:02:39
  dream into action and you're getting
• 2:02:41
  older and you live in the city with all
• 2:02:43
  the artists but all you do is your day
• 2:02:45
  job and like there's no it just starts
• 2:02:47
  to be like at first you're like this is
• 2:02:50
  what young people are like and then it
• 2:02:51
  starts to be like well you're recycling
• 2:02:52
  the same you have to you can't let these
• 2:02:54
  characters grow because then the show
• 2:02:55
  wouldn't be interesting but if the
• 2:02:57
  characters don't grow what they're doing
• 2:02:58
  is
• 2:02:59
  scary man but I mean by season four and
• 2:03:03
  five they like end up like having a bit
• 2:03:05
  of growth just cuz I think they were
• 2:03:07
  like well we need to yeah yeah this is
• 2:03:10
  the only part of me that's in frame by
• 2:03:11
  the
• 2:03:14
  way yeah well that's why I liked the way
• 2:03:17
  they ended it um just cuz I felt like
• 2:03:19
  for a couple Seasons I'd started to be
• 2:03:21
  like you guys have to change and they
• 2:03:23
  make really big changes in the final
• 2:03:24
  like two episodes yeah how long did it
• 2:03:27
  when did it how many seasons did they do
• 2:03:29
  thank you for asking so ABS no problem
• 2:03:33
  whatsoever they did Five Seasons um and
• 2:03:36
  they were on contract with Comedy
• 2:03:38
  Central for six but they were like we
• 2:03:40
  want to end it after five can I can I
• 2:03:41
  tell something okay I met um met aot of
• 2:03:45
  glazer one time and I said to her cuz it
• 2:03:48
  just kind of it just came to me like
• 2:03:50
  kind of in that moment because I
• 2:03:52
  cuz it kind of triggered I was just like
• 2:03:54
  I was like Broad City reminds me of my
• 2:03:58
  ex-girlfriend response she she kind of
• 2:04:02
  went oh cuz you watched it together and
• 2:04:04
  I was like
• 2:04:07
  yeah and then uh so funny was good and
• 2:04:12
  uh but I but I I
• 2:04:14
  was it wasn't embarrassing it was an
• 2:04:16
  embarrassing moment but also
• 2:04:19
  positive I know I would be I like I'm so
• 2:04:22
  scared to actually meet these people
• 2:04:23
  because I know I won't be cool about it
• 2:04:27
  that
• 2:04:30
  sucks I saw Aon at um Disney World and I
• 2:04:35
  uh I I was like Sean Kingston sucks and
• 2:04:39
  that's what I said I'm not sure I get
• 2:04:41
  that speaking of which Speaking
• 2:04:42
  references coming back to that this was
• 2:04:45
  like
• 2:04:47
  2008 or nine and you know Sean Kingston
• 2:04:51
  PE beautiful girl oh was he the main
• 2:04:53
  competitor to acon at the time okay kind
• 2:04:56
  of I just thought of another R&B
• 2:04:59
  sing did he like it no okay he's like no
• 2:05:02
  he said Sean's my
• 2:05:04
  friend W oh
• 2:05:08
  wow are people weird to you is that
• 2:05:11
  surely no no no not I mean yes but
• 2:05:17
  not not really like uh usually when
• 2:05:22
  people say hi to me they just like there
• 2:05:26
  haven't been a lot of really they go
• 2:05:28
  Benny Felman
• 2:05:31
  sucks Benny's my
• 2:05:35
  friend yeah people can I aren't really
• 2:05:38
  weird can I do this is maybe a weird I
• 2:05:41
  this feels this feels annoying to
• 2:05:44
  mention but I'm going to do it anyway
• 2:05:46
  but in like it's kind of I think it's a
• 2:05:47
  fun idea it's it's annoying from like a
• 2:05:49
  um I got the recognized
• 2:05:52
  and you got recognized at we were in
• 2:05:54
  line at a bar and these two friends one
• 2:05:57
  of them one of them recognized you one
• 2:05:58
  of them recognized me and they were both
• 2:06:01
  like not impressed with the other one of
• 2:06:04
  us and like like the one that recognized
• 2:06:07
  you was like it's K and is that in La
• 2:06:10
  yeah yes yes yes yes yes yeah and like
• 2:06:14
  they like both didn't that was awesome
• 2:06:16
  that was great that's how it goes with
• 2:06:18
  um me and Jacob who I've done a lot of
• 2:06:21
  videos
• 2:06:22
  Jacob and uh
• 2:06:26
  yeah sorry that was that felt like a
• 2:06:29
  yeah that's funny but you see yeah but I
• 2:06:31
  was like I was like yeah but let's talk
• 2:06:35
  to our
• 2:06:36
  respective fan of that friend yeah yeah
• 2:06:39
  yeah that was a really nice moment
• 2:06:40
  actually yeah but yeah no most of the
• 2:06:43
  time like well my girlfriend is from New
• 2:06:45
  York so what she hates is when people
• 2:06:49
  like yell like on the street just
• 2:06:52
  because like she just like it's you're
• 2:06:55
  walking on the streets of New York like
• 2:06:56
  don't scream like she's like you
• 2:06:59
  know so but than that's cool do you get
• 2:07:02
  do you get people
• 2:07:05
  singing uh yeah like especially around
• 2:07:09
  like plan of the base time more of that
• 2:07:11
  but not really so much um yeah also I
• 2:07:16
  like usually have headphones in so like
• 2:07:18
  by the time like I have to take it out
• 2:07:20
  so like the initial moment has like
• 2:07:23
  dulled because I've like had to be like
• 2:07:27
  you know it's taking like five seconds
• 2:07:30
  of like calming down that
• 2:07:32
  makes I get a little bit of a weird
• 2:07:34
  thing where especially if my Tourette's
• 2:07:35
  is more chill uh and I'm like not fully
• 2:07:38
  like people don't you know what I mean
• 2:07:40
  people don't know me to that same level
• 2:07:42
  um so I people sometimes go like they're
• 2:07:45
  kind of like trying to tell what they if
• 2:07:46
  they know me from you know what I mean
• 2:07:48
  and then but I'm like kind of like
• 2:07:54
  the guy I know do I don't know maybe
• 2:07:56
  it's like I don't know something I don't
• 2:07:58
  know but sorry it feels annoying to say
• 2:08:01
  but it does happen and it's a lives
• 2:08:03
  reality and I find interesting to talk
• 2:08:05
  about I'm not
• 2:08:07
  annoyed do you get recognized from the
• 2:08:09
  Pod I always hate um girls who listen to
• 2:08:14
  or girls who watch girls tend to
• 2:08:17
  actually be way cooler than me and like
• 2:08:20
  like like they have really cool hair and
• 2:08:22
  cool outfits and stuff and so it's like
• 2:08:24
  I'm always being like hi it is so nice
• 2:08:28
  to meet you and they just like are cool
• 2:08:30
  and they're like being cool and I'm just
• 2:08:32
  like well now you know I'm literally not
• 2:08:35
  so it's almost like I really I really
• 2:08:38
  they know about jewelry in a way I
• 2:08:41
  don't wait okay this is you but also
• 2:08:44
  this is the podcast Evan also blew up
• 2:08:47
  for that like specific outfit that
• 2:08:49
  people were people recognize him from
• 2:08:52
  that they were like it I think it's
• 2:08:55
  recognized for um being a meme on
• 2:08:59
  Twitter because he wore a crazy outfit
• 2:09:01
  on the
• 2:09:02
  subway oh totally separate from the
• 2:09:04
  podcast yeah oh that's awesome that's
• 2:09:06
  great it's always like get like Evan
• 2:09:08
  will constantly like getting something
• 2:09:10
  and then the comment will be like that's
• 2:09:12
  that they them from the video podcast
• 2:09:19
  really I was there the first time got
• 2:09:21
  recognized do you remember it was I
• 2:09:23
  remember you said that was the first
• 2:09:24
  time it was um you were hosting your OB
• 2:09:27
  M long rip um and we walked outside
• 2:09:30
  fiction and there were girls sitting and
• 2:09:31
  they were like it's Amilia and Evan and
• 2:09:33
  then you guys did girl what girls are
• 2:09:36
  you and then you were like that's the
• 2:09:37
  first time that's happened yeah oh my
• 2:09:39
  God it was fiction bar it was a long
• 2:09:41
  time ago throw
• 2:09:43
  by that's what's up have you guys had it
• 2:09:47
  yet has it occurred Shea's friend
• 2:09:49
  recognized me in a bar from knowing
• 2:09:50
  Sheila yeah
• 2:09:51
  just a week ago but I never met her and
• 2:09:54
  I think I maybe had done your show so it
• 2:09:56
  was kind of funny count where I was like
• 2:09:59
  I'm not important you just met me once
• 2:10:01
  but in a way where I didn't also meet
• 2:10:03
  you cuz she was like where do I know you
• 2:10:04
  from and we pieced it together um I
• 2:10:07
  actually did get recognized once from
• 2:10:09
  Twitter and it was in the park and I was
• 2:10:11
  running in Prospect Park and then there
• 2:10:14
  was a guy and this is before I had
• 2:10:16
  contacts uh before I wore them and I
• 2:10:18
  don't run with glasses on so I like
• 2:10:20
  couldn't really tell but I thought he
• 2:10:22
  was looking at me for way too long while
• 2:10:24
  I was like running on my face and then I
• 2:10:27
  went home and this was like after this
• 2:10:29
  is like I stopped using Twitter already
• 2:10:31
  because it was Elon takeover was not fun
• 2:10:33
  anymore and then and then he had dm'd me
• 2:10:36
  and then he asked me out on a
• 2:10:38
  date that classic going for a run to
• 2:10:41
  being asked out on a date pip but
• 2:10:43
  actually I recognized do from Twitter
• 2:10:46
  from Twitter yeah yeah yeah but I feel
• 2:10:47
  like we were I feel like we were mutual
• 2:10:49
  so it doesn't count as were we mutuals
• 2:10:50
  by then I
• 2:10:51
  I don't know if we had we were peers we
• 2:10:54
  were peers in the same Twitter Circle
• 2:10:57
  cuz I I definitely when I moved here
• 2:10:58
  like es same Twitter knew everyone from
• 2:11:00
  Twitter oh really yeah there was
• 2:11:02
  definitely an era I feel like for like
• 2:11:03
  our like class um like people that
• 2:11:07
  started around the same time where we
• 2:11:08
  all kind of met on Twitter what did you
• 2:11:10
  get recognized from Twitter at all I
• 2:11:11
  never got recognized from Twitter unless
• 2:11:13
  it was other people like who were also
• 2:11:16
  super on Twitter but it wasn't like a I
• 2:11:18
  know your tweets it was like a we're
• 2:11:20
  mutuals is that or is that uh but also
• 2:11:22
  are you like not doing like cuz some
• 2:11:24
  Twitter people are doing like here's a
• 2:11:26
  selfie of me like often you know what I
• 2:11:28
  mean I feel like you're not doing that I
• 2:11:29
  wasn't doing that but I think it was
• 2:11:30
  like like Al you would be getting Rec I
• 2:11:32
  think you would be getting recognized
• 2:11:33
  more if you had I don't know yeah I post
• 2:11:36
  more go back in time post more selfies
• 2:11:38
  um yeah uh but like Alex Murdoch and CA
• 2:11:42
  were people that I was friends with
• 2:11:43
  online and like we just you can tell
• 2:11:46
  that we like have a lot of mutuals and
• 2:11:47
  like when I showed up in New York we
• 2:11:48
  were going to all the same places but I
• 2:11:50
  felt like like we knew each other from
• 2:11:52
  meeting on Twitter but that's different
• 2:11:54
  than like a stranger coming up yeah
• 2:11:56
  exactly it's different from a stranger
• 2:11:58
  being like I know you're Twitter account
• 2:12:00
  you know totally totally sometimes in my
• 2:12:02
  college people would be like you're the
• 2:12:03
  Twitter girl yeah that's what yeah
• 2:12:05
  that's what I'm thinking you know what I
• 2:12:06
  mean yeah met Jacob yeah
• 2:12:09
  Twitter yeah Jacob and I were in a group
• 2:12:13
  chat during all of quarantine called
• 2:12:15
  [ __ ] what was it it was like Twitter
• 2:12:18
  board or like Twitter feedback board and
• 2:12:20
  so all of his early this is like before
• 2:12:23
  he had any before he went viral his
• 2:12:25
  first time any character video he would
• 2:12:27
  like send in that group chat or then we
• 2:12:28
  were all doing videos and we were just
• 2:12:30
  send it to that one group chat so I was
• 2:12:33
  there from the
• 2:12:36
  beginning speaking of do you guys have
• 2:12:38
  like a friend that came to like a first
• 2:12:40
  mic or something or like do you have
• 2:12:42
  like a friend who kicked you into it
• 2:12:44
  into stand
• 2:12:46
  up or was it early no you guys all were
• 2:12:50
  like so
• 2:12:52
  they
• 2:12:53
  actived really I'm like no one's ever
• 2:12:56
  encouraged
• 2:12:57
  this at all no I did bring to my first
• 2:13:01
  mic it was in Ohio cuz I went to school
• 2:13:04
  in Ohio and I like brought all my
• 2:13:06
  friends to it's actually online if you
• 2:13:08
  look up Kyle Gordon Columbus Funny Bone
• 2:13:13
  2013 and I'm doing a character like it's
• 2:13:17
  like a hack alt anti-bad standup type
• 2:13:21
  thing I'm wearing like a Hawaiian shirt
• 2:13:23
  it's really bad but it's it's
• 2:13:25
  online I we'll look it up we I'll play
• 2:13:27
  the it's about being good it's about
• 2:13:29
  being
• 2:13:30
  online and I've always known that and
• 2:13:32
  I've always said that and I continue to
• 2:13:35
  stand by it were you going to say one
• 2:13:37
  that you had as well did you have like
• 2:13:38
  people no no one's ever wanted me to do
• 2:13:42
  this but I'll say I'm somebody who I
• 2:13:46
  will I am addicted to like being like
• 2:13:49
  you need to be doing that like I'm
• 2:13:51
  addicted to being like come to this
• 2:13:52
  you're doing this stop like like I often
• 2:13:56
  am friends with people who are like a
• 2:13:58
  lot more talented than me but have a lot
• 2:14:01
  less like um wanting to leave the
• 2:14:05
  house and I'm like you're a star you
• 2:14:07
  need to come so people will find out
• 2:14:10
  that's very humble of you but it's
• 2:14:12
  almost just like it's almost like I'm
• 2:14:14
  like I need you to go over there or I'm
• 2:14:16
  pissed you're making me look stupid
• 2:14:18
  right now by sitting at home go get
• 2:14:20
  signed by
• 2:14:21
  has have you had succcess with this do
• 2:14:23
  you feel as though you've like
• 2:14:24
  specifically been like I'm so happy that
• 2:14:28
  this specific person's doing stand up or
• 2:14:31
  something like have you have you told a
• 2:14:32
  friend to do stand up and they did it
• 2:14:34
  what's your success rate oh no no no no
• 2:14:36
  no you yeah in a good way though not
• 2:14:38
  your R but I don't think I don't think
• 2:14:40
  any times where it's like I think that's
• 2:14:45
  coming we getting close to that and
• 2:14:47
  everybody stay tuned because I think all
• 2:14:50
  my friends will be very successful well
• 2:14:52
  okay so the person that got me into
• 2:14:55
  standup uh I then a decade later was
• 2:14:58
  like you also let like come back in you
• 2:15:02
  know what I mean like you should do it
• 2:15:03
  you know what I mean so that's kind of a
• 2:15:05
  oh really we'll have them on the Pod
• 2:15:06
  we'll talk about it shout out Lauren
• 2:15:08
  Ellis
• 2:15:10
  yeah I think Audrey was my first real
• 2:15:12
  friend in standup like really my truly
• 2:15:16
  or like going to mics were so it was so
• 2:15:18
  scary for me because I was intimidated
• 2:15:19
  by everyone when I first started
• 2:15:21
  especially cuz I knew so many people
• 2:15:22
  online actually and I was like oh my God
• 2:15:24
  these people are so amazing on the
• 2:15:26
  internet I can't talk to them I had a
• 2:15:28
  lot of like idolizing at the when I
• 2:15:30
  first started and Audrey was like my
• 2:15:33
  first real friend who made me I was like
• 2:15:35
  okay well if I'm going to a space then I
• 2:15:36
  have her and I feel okay being there
• 2:15:39
  that's so sweet that's lovely that rules
• 2:15:42
  was yeah first friend in stand up really
• 2:15:45
  like I feel like we we both really got
• 2:15:47
  into this scene around the same time and
• 2:15:49
  we had known each other on Twitter and
• 2:15:51
  uh like would text and like call before
• 2:15:54
  we'd ever met in person like C and I you
• 2:15:56
  know when you just like I know we're
• 2:15:58
  going to be friends when we finally live
• 2:15:59
  in the same city um I think I tapped
• 2:16:02
  into that when I was like who should I
• 2:16:04
  have on the Pod you know what I mean I
• 2:16:06
  was like I was
• 2:16:08
  like this collection of people this is a
• 2:16:10
  very interesting collection of people oh
• 2:16:13
  yeah would you reveal your thought
• 2:16:15
  process sure Kyle was supposed to do
• 2:16:17
  like a week supposed to do the last one
• 2:16:20
  and so
• 2:16:21
  got bumped forward and then I was like
• 2:16:23
  well I want to have uh I think I let's
• 2:16:27
  see I uh one of you guys was the first
• 2:16:31
  one and then it was kind of a chain from
• 2:16:33
  there who I thought it would be good
• 2:16:35
  vibes I think it might have been you
• 2:16:36
  first and then and I I ran this is these
• 2:16:40
  are amazing women ran to you at a bar
• 2:16:43
  and I was like in an embarrassed State
• 2:16:45
  cuz I was on like a sort of pseudo date
• 2:16:47
  anyway doesn't matter forget about that
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  I don't know I was just like I was like
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  I want to talk to Amelia in a better
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  context well I'm very excited that these
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  are the women you Associated me with
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  that's High High Praise really Shar slay
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  and
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  Kyle yeah the sorry not the other you I
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  feel like you're each the three female
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  versions of my own personality
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  [Laughter]
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  like when I had my hinge dating stint
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  it's like I think I had like standup or
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  comedy is like of the like 10 interests
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  in the thing but of course everybody was
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  like oh let's go to a comedy show like
• 2:17:26
  as a day and I was like I'm not going to
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  my friend show with
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  you I remember one time a friend brought
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  and I won't say his name he's a good guy
• 2:17:38
  but he did bring he did bring a date to
• 2:17:39
  an open mic was oh my God he's a good
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  friend of
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  yours yeah poor
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  judgment but you know what some girls
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  are down for
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  whatever yeah it's also kind of like a
• 2:17:54
  he he he he walked in and handled it
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  with complete
• 2:18:00
  confidence and uh man
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  respect [ __ ] uh you ever have
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  somebody asked to come to like a show
• 2:18:07
  like like I've done okay they'll be like
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  I'd like to come to one of your shows as
• 2:18:12
  like a first date and it's like that's
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  ridiculous no I don't want someone I'm
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  interested in romantically to see me do
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  standup until the vibe has been
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  Consolidated yeah
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  exactly do you even tell people I tell I
• 2:18:27
  tell people when I see them but it's I
• 2:18:29
  actually just recently deleted all my
• 2:18:31
  apps brag but um not for not CU of
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  anything just didn't want to anymore but
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  I don't have it anywhere on my profile
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  or I didn't and then I tell people about
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  it only when I'm there and in about the
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  middle the middle wait what's that last
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  part what in the middle of the date like
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  it yes yes like okay yes absolutely I
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  lead with it cuz I it's what I've got
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  going on and I don't know what else to
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  say I don't know I try not it up yeah
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  but really if it doesn't come up I
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  wouldn't bring it up yeah and it like
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  doesn't usually cuz does it have an ick
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  factor to
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  you absolutely but both how about for
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  self and for other I would never date a
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  comedian that's crazy
• 2:19:21
  that's sick and twisted anyone with
• 2:19:24
  self-respect should not date a
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  comedian um first of
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  all second of all all my friends deserve
• 2:19:32
  love and happiness um yeah I I just am
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  like un it's like unless that is my
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  actual job then it doesn't count is how
• 2:19:45
  I feel of like well if somebody like
• 2:19:47
  does inter mural volleyball and they're
• 2:19:49
  like yeah I'm a volleyball player
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  marting
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  like so I guess yeah I'm just like that
• 2:19:58
  but that's just me do you get the do you
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  guys get the I from self and others
• 2:20:04
  that's a good that's a good um for me I
• 2:20:08
  don't find I think like I think Talent
• 2:20:10
  is so awesome and I am so often I'm like
• 2:20:14
  attracted to people based on a talent
• 2:20:15
  alone but that talent for is never stand
• 2:20:19
  up like for me that's not an impressive
• 2:20:22
  thing to be good
• 2:20:24
  at that's funny and maybe it's because I
• 2:20:27
  think that I see maybe I like see it too
• 2:20:29
  much so it's the magic of it is ruined I
• 2:20:32
  guess um but yeah it's not tell I
• 2:20:34
  respect so it's not necessarily ick but
• 2:20:36
  it's not like Yay a selling point
• 2:20:43
  yeah I don't have a super strong take on
• 2:20:45
  it honestly I feel like we are doing
• 2:20:49
  stups and meeting people through stand
• 2:20:50
  up and it's so much more fun to meet
• 2:20:52
  people in person than like apps or
• 2:20:55
  whatever so I feel like I kind of feel
• 2:20:57
  like everyone's like I wouldn't date a
• 2:20:58
  comedian and then they just meet a
• 2:20:59
  comedian they
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  like well I well recently I've been
• 2:21:03
  crushing a lot in the Improv scene okay
• 2:21:06
  which is worse which is worse I stand by
• 2:21:09
  wait I really stand by having improv
• 2:21:10
  having crushes on people who are really
• 2:21:11
  good at improv because it means one
• 2:21:14
  they're good listeners to their team
• 2:21:16
  players oh try arguing
• 2:21:23
  and then I've been in a committed
• 2:21:26
  relationship for like the LA
• 2:21:29
  collectively for the last 10 years
• 2:21:30
  except
• 2:21:31
  one crazy six-month period in the middle
• 2:21:35
  oh [ __ ] can I ask does doing standup
• 2:21:39
  have any like uh weight to to her does
• 2:21:43
  she care one way or the other uh yeah I
• 2:21:46
  mean she she's like does she's but
• 2:21:49
  assume she likes the comedy yeah yeah
• 2:21:51
  yeah she she and to Total respect to her
• 2:21:55
  does not see me live anymore unless I
• 2:21:57
  like specifically ask nice and like if
• 2:22:01
  she was still going I would be I was
• 2:22:03
  like why do you still want to see this
• 2:22:05
  but uh so yeah um what was the question
• 2:22:10
  like does it's it's it's like do you
• 2:22:12
  feel as though standup you you try to I
• 2:22:15
  guess uh it's a bit different for you
• 2:22:16
  because of the long-term relationship
• 2:22:18
  but like ick of trying to not let let
• 2:22:20
  other people know if you're interested
• 2:22:22
  in them that's like ick for self and
• 2:22:23
  then ick for others like do you like it
• 2:22:26
  or not if other people are doing it you
• 2:22:28
  name me oh ick oh oh ick for selfick for
• 2:22:31
  others yeah no I don't even want to be
• 2:22:34
  friends with
• 2:22:35
  stand-ups that's funny that's
• 2:22:38
  funny no like yeah I mean it's hard like
• 2:22:42
  when in the brief time I was single over
• 2:22:45
  the past like like while I was doing
• 2:22:48
  yeah let's happened to this what
• 2:22:49
  happened with this six months
• 2:22:51
  you want to talk about you don't well
• 2:22:53
  honestly it was like I broken up with my
• 2:22:56
  long-term
• 2:22:57
  girlfriend in like fall of
• 2:23:01
  2019 and then I was like whoa I'm going
• 2:23:05
  crazy and then Co happened and then my
• 2:23:07
  girlfriend and I like started dating
• 2:23:09
  right at the beginning of Co so then it
• 2:23:11
  was like I probably would have had a
• 2:23:14
  longer
• 2:23:15
  like wild like lost weekend but uh it
• 2:23:20
  just didn't last that long so I I wasn't
• 2:23:22
  even thinking about dating at the
• 2:23:24
  time I was just
• 2:23:29
  horny yeah so yeah
• 2:23:32
  but like yeah I I I tend to agree with
• 2:23:36
  the like yeah just just wanted I would
• 2:23:40
  have wanted to date a good comedian yeah
• 2:23:43
  or like a good yeah but actually
• 2:23:46
  probably I was thinking back then like I
• 2:23:49
  didn't necess necessarily want to date
• 2:23:51
  someone in comedy I personally also like
• 2:23:53
  can't compartmentalize well enough
• 2:23:56
  to uh go for the same opportunities as
• 2:23:59
  like the person I'm dating if if there
• 2:24:01
  were both stand-ups we're going for the
• 2:24:03
  exact same things that that I would find
• 2:24:06
  hard I do think it' be nice like to have
• 2:24:08
  somebody who cares about the same like
• 2:24:10
  meaningless things as intensely as you
• 2:24:14
  but then it's like there I think I zoned
• 2:24:16
  out for a minute I'm sorry I apologize I
• 2:24:19
  like I like sorry if I lost in thought
• 2:24:21
  there sorry about hey what's up I have I
• 2:24:24
  have been I have been listening for a
• 2:24:25
  while and now I'm like oh wait hold
• 2:24:28
  on sorry please I don't know what what I
• 2:24:31
  was
• 2:24:32
  saying
• 2:24:34
  intor specific I don't think the idea of
• 2:24:37
  like dating someone in the scene is a
• 2:24:40
  bad idea because what if you break up
• 2:24:42
  and you have to see them I think it's
• 2:24:43
  more of like for like the rest of your
• 2:24:47
  time like wherever their career goes and
• 2:24:49
  wherever your career go is going to like
• 2:24:51
  be such like a mental thing that you're
• 2:24:54
  dealing with and that sounds painful and
• 2:24:56
  hard and it's like forget having to see
• 2:24:58
  them like you have to just like have
• 2:25:00
  used to car about this person and then
• 2:25:02
  keep having them be a part of your life
• 2:25:03
  that's crazy it's like the idea of like
• 2:25:05
  a mom and a dad um divorcing but they
• 2:25:10
  had kids together and now they like
• 2:25:11
  always have to see them for like ever
• 2:25:14
  because of the [ __ ] kid and it's like
• 2:25:16
  no you were actually not supposed to
• 2:25:17
  ever talk to that person again but now
• 2:25:19
  you have to I guess um in terms of like
• 2:25:22
  I don't the career comparison thing like
• 2:25:25
  I've never felt you know what I mean
• 2:25:27
  I've never been like concerned about
• 2:25:28
  that or worried about that every was
• 2:25:30
  like if somebody was doing if if I if I
• 2:25:32
  had like an ex who was doing way better
• 2:25:33
  I mean I don't know if I would care you
• 2:25:36
  know what I mean I don't know it's
• 2:25:37
  interesting yeah I mean I guess it's
• 2:25:38
  also like straight versus like gay like
• 2:25:41
  are they the same type of person as you
• 2:25:43
  where it's like like I I don't think I'd
• 2:25:45
  ever be that jealous of like somebody
• 2:25:47
  who's nothing like me having success but
• 2:25:49
  somebody who like who's like me having
• 2:25:51
  success it's like that's where I would
• 2:25:53
  compare
• 2:25:54
  myself I think I've always leaned away
• 2:25:56
  from comparison because if my because
• 2:25:59
  it's the thief of Joy because it's the
• 2:26:00
  thief of Joy I've always felt like if my
• 2:26:02
  friends are getting things I want then
• 2:26:04
  it means I'm in the right place with the
• 2:26:06
  right people you know um I try to look
• 2:26:08
  at it that way but I guess it's
• 2:26:10
  different for relationship yeah that's
• 2:26:11
  fair I think in the relationship I don't
• 2:26:13
  have hard time like talking about being
• 2:26:14
  disappointed or if they got it or like
• 2:26:16
  being able to celebrate the thing
• 2:26:18
  feeling guilty about celebrating it if
• 2:26:19
  they didn't get whatever blah blah blah
• 2:26:22
  etc etc etc but it's so Mike bigas don't
• 2:26:27
  think
• 2:26:29
  twice I'm I feel as though my personal
• 2:26:32
  energy I think has shifted where I'm
• 2:26:34
  like I'm like I'm like I feel as though
• 2:26:36
  I'm winding down mentally so now I'm
• 2:26:38
  like all right now I'll be able to free
• 2:26:39
  you guys pretty soon CU like when the
• 2:26:41
  hell is he going to let us out of here
• 2:26:42
  but I'll say let's see uh I don't have
• 2:26:45
  the ick for self for stand up CU I'm
• 2:26:47
  like I think it's I like it
• 2:26:50
  you know what I mean I'm
• 2:26:52
  like I am like I would like people I
• 2:26:55
  guess I'm like um but I know other
• 2:26:57
  people don't or that in the culture you
• 2:27:02
  see a guy doing standup you're like he
• 2:27:04
  likely sucks as a person and what he's
• 2:27:07
  saying you know what I mean um so I'm
• 2:27:09
  like how do I I don't know I want people
• 2:27:12
  to look past that for one second and see
• 2:27:16
  what I'm actually saying you know what I
• 2:27:17
  mean um so that's why like yes I do
• 2:27:21
  stand up please just look at it for a
• 2:27:24
  moment you you what I mean you'll see
• 2:27:26
  I'm talking about bugs I don't know yeah
• 2:27:29
  uh but then again maybe I don't want
• 2:27:30
  them to see the eating bugs material
• 2:27:32
  depends but then for others um I like it
• 2:27:35
  I think it's cool um similar to the
• 2:27:37
  talent idea uh but it's a talent that I
• 2:27:40
  do appreciate you know what I me I don't
• 2:27:42
  know but I also think that maybe that's
• 2:27:43
  different from uh in a hetero or
• 2:27:47
  straight way men to women women to men
• 2:27:49
  where it's like it's such a male
• 2:27:51
  dominant space already so like it's like
• 2:27:53
  when like a when like some guy's doing
• 2:27:55
  well it's like sure you know what I mean
• 2:27:58
  but then like uh I don't know when I
• 2:28:00
  think I think when I see women being
• 2:28:03
  really funny in the space I'm like yes
• 2:28:05
  awesome cool good uh I think there's
• 2:28:09
  also an element of like I find it less
• 2:28:11
  impr impressive because I've done
• 2:28:13
  it of like I still have a little bit of
• 2:28:16
  the brain disease of being like well cuz
• 2:28:17
  I've done this can't be that hard CU
• 2:28:20
  that's now proof that you someone can do
• 2:28:22
  it but when someone has a talent that I
• 2:28:24
  don't have I'm like that's amazing
• 2:28:26
  that's impossible how could you do
• 2:28:28
  that yeah I just want to be like sex in
• 2:28:30
  the city or like friends or like
• 2:28:32
  Seinfeld where it's like I'm a comedian
• 2:28:34
  and my girlfriend or my wife is the top
• 2:28:38
  restaurant
• 2:28:41
  tour it's like she uh has a chain of
• 2:28:44
  shiatsu massage parlors or
• 2:28:48
  something freaking and uh yeah you guys
• 2:28:52
  any any oh I'm like I'm like what am I
• 2:28:54
  doing I think my I think my energy is
• 2:28:56
  lowering let's let's whine This Plane
• 2:28:58
  down shall we the hot chocolate's
• 2:29:00
  wearing off hot hot chocolate is
• 2:29:02
  genuinely wearing off do you guys have
• 2:29:04
  any plugs do you guys have any uh thank
• 2:29:06
  you so much for coming on uh kind of two
• 2:29:09
  hours two and a half hours all right
• 2:29:12
  thanks for a normal healthy
• 2:29:16
  length can we keep the puppets is that
• 2:29:18
  the I no I'll be taking
• 2:29:21
  sock yeah you can keep the socks great
• 2:29:23
  great great discussion I I got to wrap
• 2:29:25
  it up there before I just start
• 2:29:28
  meing uh let's we'll go through Kyle
• 2:29:31
  where can the people find you got
• 2:29:34
  anything coming up Kyle Gordon and uh if
• 2:29:36
  you live anywhere in North America come
• 2:29:38
  see me on tour this
• 2:29:40
  spring yeah hell yeah um I'm at Amelia
• 2:29:44
  please and my podcast is girls rewatch
• 2:29:47
  podcast and I'm coming to La for the
• 2:29:49
  first time ever doing a show in March um
• 2:29:52
  but I'm also here every month doing a
• 2:29:54
  show called girl church follow our meme
• 2:29:56
  page at that's girl
• 2:29:59
  church um I'm Audrey I'm at Audrey
• 2:30:03
  m.b and I do a monthly show in
• 2:30:06
  Williamsburg and a weekly show at Flop
• 2:30:08
  House comedy club and you can see me
• 2:30:10
  there fun yay that's what I'm CA po I'm
• 2:30:14
  @ CEO pool on Instagram s i l a p u l
• 2:30:18
  and I have a show every other month at
• 2:30:19
  the Club yeah that's that's our show
• 2:30:23
  folks I've been out of fr the whole time
• 2:30:25
  bye