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Affiliate Marketing a Valuable Tool Frederic Jean-Bart · Inspiring Stories

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Thank you for listening to de Pictures Media Radio. You rat you readything to
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sow smashion shot along you sus. Welcome back everybody. Today, we're going
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to have a really interesting conversation with a friend, uh Frederick Sean Bart,
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and he's going to teach us about affiliate marketing. When affiliate marketing isd of
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misunderstood, and it is a tool that we actually use here at Depictions Media
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to help run our shows. It brings us advertising dollars in a way that
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we couldn't actually bring them in ourselves, even with a huge active selling force.
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That a lot of times when you click on one of our blog posts
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or something like that, you see as you scroll down towards the bottom that
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we ask you to visit our sponsors. It is via affiliate marketing and is
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a tool that you can offer the services or offer an audience to a service
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that needs a larger audience to so that they can survive as a business.
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And French's just going to teach us a little bit more. There's a lot
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more to affiliate marketing than what I've just described, and there are ways to
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actually learn it without having the run into those guys that try to sell you
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snake oil. I'm going to teach you how to how to make thousands of
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dollars a day overnight. He has a course and he has methods to actually
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teach you how to bring affiliate marketing into your business in a way that actually
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helps your business make a little bit of extra income and also helps the other
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business find a larger audience or help them reach people that they may not be
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able to reach if they hadn't gone through your business. So why don't we
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bring Frederick to the show and let's hear more about affiliate marketing and how it
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can benefit the entire community something we can well. Welcome to the show,
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Frederick and affiliate marketing. I think sometimes, I know I use a lot
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of affiliate marketing to drive our business with the podcasting and everything. It's like
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it becomes a revenue stream that actually pays for all of the databases and things
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that we got to get onto. It pays for all that and pays for
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a lot of like pat trees is where we're discussing the batteries on my microphone
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and stuff like that. All those things that you don't think of we use
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affiliate marketing to form a budget for that for those for those sort of things,
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and pace for a lot of online stuff, right. But I think
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a lot of people get confused with it because of all those people out there
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here. Let me trying to sell you this system and when you find onto
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this system, you're gonna find out you're gonna make ten thousand dollars a day.
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And yeah, it's like and you're not that person trying to sell those
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sort of systems. You're selling something that's actually real and how we can actually
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join our businesses together, you know, in the right ways. Right,
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So how did you get started with all this? Sure? So it's a
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funny story. Back in two thousand and nine, that was around that recession
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to thousand and eight. Two thousand and nine, I was out of university
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for a few years, got laid off from a job, so had to
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look for another job. It was very hard, and I remember there were
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a lot of different interviews I've gone to and they were always like I had
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studied business in university and I specialized in marketing, so I wanted to try
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and get into marketing. But I was also desperate a recession. So I
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would go to all these different interviews and be like, oh, yeah,
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we're a marketing job, and I'd be like super pumped and I'd go there.
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I had a shirt a suit on, and it was like selling knives
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door to door or working for Enbridge door to door, because they would be
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very tricky with how they advertised their job offers back then. And there was
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a point where I had an offer or I was in an interview process for
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a job with CIBC, a marketing job there, and then there was this
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other marketing company that was like an affiliate network and they were to my house.
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So it was very enticing, but I was so jaded from all the
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previous jobs they had gone to where it turned out to be like just a
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fake, not the actual job that they had described. But I decided to
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roll the dice. I'm the type of person where I like to take calculated
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risk, and I was like, let me try it out, and I
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joined this affiliate network. In the interview, at least, I remember,
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I was like the people there, they were dressed so casual. I had
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just come from like a corporate job previously, working at like an insurance company,
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and all of these guys that were in the interview were wearing like shorts
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and T shirt and I was in a suit, and I was like,
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oh, this is this has got to be fake. But then they came
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in they were like, what if we told you you could make more than
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doctors and lawyers? Should be interested in that? And I was like yes,
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So I decided to give it a shot and I got in working for
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this affiliate network and from there, I've been in the industry for around fifteen
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years and it's taken me to different countries. I've worked in Luxembourg in affiliate
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marketing. I've worked on the network side, managing affiliates and brands. I've
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worked on the brand side building managing programs, and I've been an affiliate myself.
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So in terms of affiliate marketing, this is just my domain effects certise.
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Wow, it sounds like you've done it all in affiliate marketing. I
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mean I've I've you know, the affiliate marketing world for people, there's you
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know, people always think about affiliate marketing as just being an affiliate and all
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those ads you see online like you make ten thousand dollars and stuff like that,
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But there's a whole other side of affiliate marketing too, where you can
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work for an affiliate network. There's a bunch of different vendors that are all
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part of the ecosystem where you can have a really good career. So that's
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like something that people don't really understand about affiliate marketing. It's it's it's not
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just about being an affiliate. There's there are a lot of opportunities to find
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jobs and careers outside of even being an affiliate. Well, I kind of
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kind of picture that because somebody's got to run the databases and everything that,
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like I used to find different advertisers, they somebody's got to manage manage what
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I'm doing as as the affiliate. So I imagine there's gotta be somebody working
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behind behind those scenes. It can't just be uh, just a magic computer,
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right, No. Yeah, so there's there's lots of people. So
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my job as an affiliate manager when when I was an affiliate manager is basically
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you work on an affiliate network, and the affiliate network is kind of like
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the middleman between On one side, you have the affiliates and on the other
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side you would have like the brands or the advertisers or the merchants, and
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so the affiliate manager is they will build up a portfolio of different affiliates and
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they're kind of like advisors or consultants, and they'll recommend certain programs to run
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or promote. And so the job of an affiliate manager doesn't really get talked
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about a lot, you know, I think like the affiliate, the role
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of an affiliate gets glamorized on social media. But there are a lot of
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affiliate managers out there that also are able to build successful careers, make a
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lot of money. But it is a job that's very high stress. So
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getting back to my point, I've been in it for fifteen years. It's
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like, if you can last fifteen years, you've been battlehearted kind of it.
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Yeah, I got you on that one. And I think I think
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we've probably been we've been using affiliate marketing to as a as a driver or
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or as a fundraiser, should we say, for about maybe eight years.
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So it's and I guess there are those they can make, like the ten
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thousand dollars a day sort of thing. Did you see some of these things
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advertised on YouTube? But well, so with everything, it's it's like anything
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that seems too good to be true is probably too good to be true?
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Right now? Are there affiliates out there that are making ten thousand dollars a
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day or more? Of course there are, there are lots of them,
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right But what where these people on social media, the gurus where they kind
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of fabricate the reality is it takes time. You know, a lot of
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the affiliates who are able to actually be successful in affiliate marketing, they put
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in a lot of effort and it takes time. And that's something that the
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gurus don't tell you. They're going to tell you you can make ten thousand
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dollars a day in less than two weeks kind of thing, and that's just
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not realistic. It's like, you can do ten thousand dollars a day in
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affiliate marketing. You can do more than that. You can you can build
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a multimillion dollar business in affiliate marketing. But it's going to take time.
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It does. It doesn't happen overnight. It's just like with everything else in
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the world. It's very hard and it takes time and it takes effort.
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And I think that's kind of where we people need to be a little more
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honest about it. But I mean, I guess if you're selling a course
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honestly, like that doesn't really help you if people signing up, so they
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ain't gonna say that, but I don't have a course so I can sit
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you know. Yeah, yeah, dude. One of the pitfalls that I
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found was we actually did on our end, we actually eventually had to find
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somebody to actually manage the systems, manage the links because of things like dead
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links and programs changing in things like that employer where the manager that were they
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were they were dealing with on the other end, change the program around or
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uh or change what the the campaign looks like. So we had to change
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all of our stuff around that sort of thing. I you know, So
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that was one of one of the things as a company we we've ran into
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one of those sort of pitfalls. It's, you know, what happens with
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affiliates. So you know, we were talking a little bit before about sort
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of the affiliate perspective and the positives and the negatives of that. What you're
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talking about are sort of like the merchants, these companies that will set up
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affiliate programs and then they'll have affiliates like yourself, and then they don't communicate
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with them properly. And so that's the other side of the business where a
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lot of let's call it merchants, brands, companies will set up these affiliate
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programs because they also are being told online you can set up an affiliate program,
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it's amazing, you can acquire customers, or you can get leads.
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Leads on a performance basis, it's the most efficient, cost effective way of
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acquiring customers. But what they don't know is they don't have any strategy,
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or they don't know how to manage it, or they're not allocating the right
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resources of it, and so on the other side, on the like brand
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merchant advertiser side, you can are there brands that are able to do millions
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of dollars on their affiliate programs. Yes, like there are lots and lots
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of them. There are brands who are able to generate so much revenue from
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their affiliate program it's actually one of the main reasons why they get acquired.
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Down the line. Now, the majority of merchants, I would say,
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have no idea what they're doing. They'll just get an affiliate program set up
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very quickly. Because it's like, if you work with some of these affiliate
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networks like CJ or share Sale or Impact. It's very easy to get an
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affiliate program set up. They make it very simple for them to do.
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But that's not where it ends. The thing about affiliate marketing is that it's
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actually all about the relationships, and so a good affiliate program would have an
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affiliate manager who is going to communicate with you. So link changes, program
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changes, they happen all the time, but the important thing is you need
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to communicate to your affiliates because these are your partners and your business. So
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unfortunately, there are a lot of programs out there where you'll apply for it
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and nobody ever reviews your application, nobody ever gets back to you. There's
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a lot of that too, and that's sort of where my services are,
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Like we work with businesses and we help them and give the strategy on how
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to build successful affiliate programs where they're able to build and grow it. Because
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because an affiliate program where you're not communicating with your affiliates, you're not treating
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them with respect, you're not giving them the information, that's not a program
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that's going to be able to grow and scale. You're gonna have just you're
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gonna have affiliates like yourself. They're gonna be like, well, why am
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I going to promote this business when they're not even getting back to me or
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they don't communicate with you know, they don't tell me of changes when I
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can go somewhere else and this one does, you know. So that's kind
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of like a status of affiliate marketing on both sides of the aisle. Yeah,
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because there was there a few programs where it's like I actually found myself
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shopping on the on on their on the merchants site because it's like, hey,
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they got some really cool stuff, right, and if I buy it
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through my affiliate thing, it's like my chapper brain's going like, hey,
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that's that's like a discount or sure, why not? Right? You know
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it's a Christmas shop in whatever, right, So and lo and behold it.
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That merchant disappeared because I guess whatever whoever's managing it was mismanaging it,
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because the business is still there, the website's still there, it's just all
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of the affiliate stuff disappeared. Yeah, And I mean it's tough because if
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you don't have the right strategy, if you don't have the resources, then
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and if you just basically don't know what you're doing. You're gonna mismanage the
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program, you know, and then you're gonna have affiliates that are unhappy with
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you. And word gets around in the affiliate world, you know, when
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when there's a really good program that works well affiliates no, yeah, and
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that's how you get more affiliates, and that's how you grow it. I
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mean, you have a program that doesn't work well, affiliates also now because
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they talk and they talk, they talk amongst each other. Yeah. No,
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there are some other other things with a different avenue that we do actually
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talk to some of some of the people that we that we that we've worked
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with in the past, like coaches and consultants where we've actually put their link
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up there and we do like a revenue share sort of thing. Do you
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help businesses work out that sort of thing where they can actually have like an
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organized way of doing a revenue share to those who want to represent them?
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Still, the answer is no, we're I mean, you know, there
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are so many different arts of affiliate marketing. You know, there's the B
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two C side, there's the B two B side. We really focus on
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B two C like you know, there's a specific niche that we work with
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in terms of e commerce brands that are doing a certain amount of revenue that
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are running paid ads online. But at the same time too, I'm someone
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where I believe in the more value you put out there and you can provide
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to people, the more you can help people, it all comes back to
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you. So you know, although it's it's not part of our business and
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our service offering, if anybody, I've had like three conversations with people this
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week where it wasn't really a fit for what we do, and I knew
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that from the from the from the onset, but I still had the conversation
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with them and I still tried to help them out in terms of like consultants
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and whatnot. There, I would say it's there are a lot of different
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platforms out there where you can set up an affiliate program and it's very easy
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to give people links like affiliate links to promote, and so that's something where
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that's like the most important thing to do. I think step one if if
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you're a business coach or consultant and you want to set up an affiliate program
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where you know farm people of your network, you can split a rep share
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with them. Then step one is too, you know, sign up for
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an affiliate platform like a reversion or something where you can actually give people links
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because you have to be able to track everything, right Yeah, so yeah,
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the tracking is super important. So who are some of your favorite clients
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to work with? So for me, it's the they have to have an
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e commerce product and they have to be open to testing things. So best
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the best type of cliss for me are direct to consumer e commerce brands in
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the seven to nine figure range in terms of revenue. They're running paid ads,
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so they understand the importance and value of direct response marketing. So direct
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response marketing is all about getting that customer to act now. It's about getting
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them to purchase now. So direct within direct response marketing, there are tactics
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and techniques that you use, like scarcity, urgency creating, like discounts offers
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to entice that customer to purchase today. It's a little bit different than a
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company that really cares about their branding, right, So a company that wants
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to do run ads or like their marketing is all about their branding, they're
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they're not, so they don't care as much to get that customer to purchase
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today, it's about putting their brand name in that customer's mind. So yeah,
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So to get back to your question, the brands and the clients that
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we like to work with, they understand the power of direct response marketing,
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and even if they don't understand it, they're willing to try it because that's
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super important in terms of how affiliate marketing works. Yeah, I imagine there
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is actually a huge difference between like signing up from Google Ads and then having
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a group like manage what it is a campaign of how you're going to get
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that direct response. So so like there are there are different types of affiliates.
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So I think I'll talk about this for a second because it's something that
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most people don't know about. So when people think about affiliates, there are
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a couple different types of affiliates that they always think about. So they'll think
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of content sites, So like a person who owns a blog or a review
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site, there are influencers or content creators. And then the third type of
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affiliate is usually a coupon site. These are the types of affiliates that are
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primarily on affiliate networks like commission, Junction, Share a Sale, Impact,
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a win, click bank, but there's another type of affiliate that nobody ever
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talks about, and those are affiliates who are media buyers. And this is
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the type of affiliate that I specialize in that I've worked with for fifteen years.
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And a media buyer is an affiliate who will they'll use their own money
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to run ads promoting your affiliate link. So, for example, let's say
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you were a merchant and you are selling microphones, and you would work with
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one of these affiliate media buyers. You would tell them, okay, affiliate,
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I will pay you for every customer you get me, I will pay
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you fifty dollars. So that affiliate is going to build some ads. He'll
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run the ads on Facebook using his affiliate link, and anytime he gets a
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customer, right, he's gonna get paid from you fifty dollars. So he's
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trying to acquire those customers on Facebook, let's say, or TikTok for less
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than fifty dollars. So let's say let's say for every customer he acquires,
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you're gonna pay him fifty dollars. Well, when he runs the ads on
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Facebook or she, they'll try and acquire that customer for you know, forty
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dollars, thirty dollars, twenty dollars, and that profit margin is how they
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make their money. And so this type of affiliate, like the media buyers,
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they will they will use their own money, right, and they'll run
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ads promoting your product or your brand on the different channels like Facebook, TikTok,
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Snapchat, YouTube, search, display. And the crazy part about it
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is most people don't know about these type of affiliates, but it's a massive
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industry. It's actually like we have our own trade shows. The industry generates
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billions of dollars. There's like there are hundreds of thousands of affiliates out there
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who promote offers this way. And so we really focus on this type of
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affiliate and we connect the e commerce brands to these affiliates and we give them
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the strategy on how to build affiliate programs that will attract these type of affiliates.
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Does that make sense? It does actually make sense. So so so
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for example, let's say you're you're the you're the merchant, okay, and
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you're selling microphones. Traditionally, if you want to run ads online, you
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would go to you would either one hire someone internally to run the ads for
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you. Or two you would hire an agency, some kind of digital marketing
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agency, and with both of those things, not only are you going to
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have to pay the employee or pay the agency, but then you're also going
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to have to put capital out to run the ads. Right by working with
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the affiliate media buyers, they use their own money for the ads, so
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you're not you're not putting out any capital there, and you're only paying them
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when they get a customer for you. It's a straight performance basis. So
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the benefit is there's less capital expend sture. You're working with some of the
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best digital marketing experts in the world, and you're working with them on a
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commission basis, and you know you can you can be working with five of
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the top affiliates and digital marketers for Facebook, and then you'll have some that
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are running TikTok and some that are running YouTube. And so instead of just
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paying an agency that you're probably going to get one person buying ads for you,
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you have a team of online digital marketers that are working for you on
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a commission basis. It's it's really really a great model. Yeah, yeah,
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it does kind of remind me of could you could you You actually said
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said that they're they're buying up the media themselves and then lending it to to
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what to whatever the widget is of the day, right, you know,
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yeah, whatever whatever traffic source they're buying on. Their goal is to get
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customers. Now, that's why the direct response marketing has to be there,
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because if if they're let's say they run an AD and that customer doesn't purchase
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today, but but they'll purchase down the line, they don't get credit for
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that, you know that that doesn't matter to them. So they're really good
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at getting customers to buy now. Yeah, yeah, it makes it does
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make it. I've see I'm seeing the model and and it sounds pretty pretty
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damn interesting. Yeah. But so like the reactions started doing on either end
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the how do you get started doing doing something like that? So if if
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you're a merchant or you have like an e commerce brand, it's very hard.
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You need you need someone like me as like a consultant to do it,
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to be able to do it properly. Right, But but our process
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is this, So step one is you need to get set up on a
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tracking platform because in order to work with different you're going to be working with
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multiple affiliate networks and you need kind of like a CRM, like a centralized
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place to be able to track all the places. So that's step one.
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Step two is you get introductions and connected with the different affiliate networks. Some
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affiliate networks are specialized in you know, Facebook affiliate. Some affiliate networks have
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really good emailers. So you need to know which affiliate networks to work with
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and who are the best ones for the different traffic sources. So once you
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get that process set up, the next part is you really need to build
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funnels and landing pages. This is like a really really important part that a
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lot of brands still shockingly don't understand the power of building a landing page.
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So most brands when they run ads to their e commerce store, they may
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go to the homepage of their e commerce store, or they go to the
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product page. But with our strategy and what works for these affiliates is you
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go to a landing page because you want to drive that customer to a page
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that just is selling the one hero product. You don't want them to get
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distracted and like, oh, what is this product, and then they forget
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and then they go away. You drive them to a landing page that has
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the one product, and then you create an offer for that customer. You
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create an offer that's so good that they see and they say, wow,
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I can't refuse this offer. I have to buy now. And so we
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help them with that strategy. You know, in certain things that we do
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in terms of like creating an offer for the customer. You can bundle that
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product, so you can sell one, two, and three product bundles of
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that hero product. And on the two product bundle, on the three product
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bundle, you offer higher discounts. You might offer a free gift purchase,
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you might offer some kind of free trial or whatnot. But the high level
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goal really is for that customer to come to the landing page be like,
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Wow, this is a great deal. I can sign up for this and
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I can get three free things as well. Oh man, I need to
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buy this right now. So that's part of the strategy. And then your
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creatives as well need to be very direct response as well. The creatives need
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you can't just have like the type of creatives that work online these days.
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They have to be like quick cuts and there's a certain strategy that they should
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follow. But that's another thing that we help them with. And so Once
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they have all of that in place, they also have to have a good
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like up sell strategy as well. They have Basically in order for this to
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work, you have to get the customer to drive like purchase a high AOV.
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So AOV is like an average order value. So in that landing page
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example, right, maybe the one product is thirty to a bucks, but
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maybe the two product bundill is seventy. You want to get that customer to
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buy the two product bund because that drives up their AOV. So these are
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the strategies that we do. Once that's all implemented, and the last step
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is to introduce them to all of these affiliate media buyers because that's one of
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the most valuable things we do. We have these relationships. We know who
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these affiliate media buyers are. So that's on the that's on the merchant side.
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That's kind of how to build an affiliate program to work and attract these
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top affiliate media buyers. Yeah, does that make sense. That does make
32:15
sense. Yeah, and it makes makes a lot of sense, especially on
32:20
you know, the especially we work with with clients that we try to get
32:29
them to Okay, yeah, that's the future. But you want to play
32:31
up the benefit mm hm, you know sort of thing. So because the
32:37
more benefit, the more that feature looks beneficial, the more likely the person
32:42
is to buy, right, So yep, exactly, so yeah, so
32:47
we so that part makes sense. So what about the other side where you're
32:57
the person, you're the affiliate buying the media. Yeah, so that side
33:02
is it's hard. That's that's my disclaimer. It's very hard to be an
33:12
affiliate media buyer because if you think about it, right, you're gonna have
33:17
to run ads somewhere online. Okay, so whether you pick Facebook, TikTok,
33:22
those are the two biggest ones these days, you know, Google,
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YouTube, So you're going to run these ads in the beginning, Like how
33:36
all of these platforms work is It's all an algorithm, right, So you
33:43
put a link out there. You're gonna tell them, hey, I want
33:45
to target people twenty five to thirty five years old based in the US.
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I want to target men only or women only, and here are my ads,
33:57
and then you set up a budget of how much you're going to spend
33:59
for In the beginning, the algorithm is just learning, right, So the
34:02
algorithm is going to run your ads to's like different people and then you may
34:07
get a sale here, a sale there, but typically and eventually, sorry,
34:14
what will happen is that platforms algorithm is going to know exactly who to
34:19
target right and then at that point then it'll start just knowing exactly the type
34:23
of customers that are going to purchase from your ads, and then things get
34:28
really good there and you can start scaling and life is great at that point.
34:31
But before you get to that point, you're gonna lose a lot of
34:35
money because you're gonna need to figure out who to target, who are the
34:38
best people to target. You're gonna need to figure out what are the best
34:43
type of ads to run, what are the best type of angles to run.
34:49
And so it's I'm not I'm not doing a good job selling this right
34:52
now, but of selling I know, I know, I know, like
34:59
this is this is the true truth, right Like everyone online they're going to
35:00
tell you super easy and it's gonna work blah blah blah. But anybody that's
35:04
done it knows you're gonna lose a ton of money and it's super hard and
35:07
you just have to be able to withstand that and keep going, and eventually
35:12
you may find an affiliate program that works really well, and then you can
35:16
you can scale it up. But so that's kind of like how it works.
35:22
The smartest way to do it, though, is there is a there's
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an affiliate forum called Stack that Money All. They think it might be STM
35:31
dot com, and it's an amazing forum. There's so many affiliate media buyers
35:38
in there. There are a lot of case studies and follow alongs. There
35:42
are a lot of guides that can teach you how to like buy ads and
35:45
run these ads online. Yeah, so that would that would be a good
35:50
way because in the forum, it's not necessarily they don't they try to prevent
35:55
people from just selling courses and stuff. They really want to try and promote
35:59
a community where people share knowledge and people can gain value and stuff like that,
36:04
so that it is a good place to start. And then if the
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best best way is if you can network with someone in that community who's already
36:14
an affiliate, who's who's doing who's successful, and you can ask them to
36:19
shadow them and or have like a mentor someone that can teach you how to
36:23
go about doing that. And that's the real honest way of how to become
36:28
successful. Affiliate medidby, Yeah, because just just by way of example,
36:37
are the people who are listening to the audio version of this podcast right now,
36:45
they have been interrupted at least once with an ad. Okay, because
36:55
the platform that we use, and the reason why we use this particular platform
36:59
is because it has advertising that also matches the local radio stations because of the
37:08
secrets out here, guys. The platform we use is owned by iHeartRadio,
37:15
right, Okay, so they're massive, massive, They're massive. Right.
37:21
It's like you can't you can't go into a market anywhere in North America and
37:27
not run into an iHeart Radio station. Yeah. Well maybe if you're some
37:32
really small, small, small take town. But hey, we're gonna roll
37:37
those guys out, all right. So by way new effect, I can
37:45
actually purchase advertising time from them and then put people up there that I want
37:53
to advertise. Yeah, and and and you'll like another another good example of
38:00
that are people any type of like podcasts or YouTube show that you watch,
38:06
right, so you can have the Google ads where it'll completely change to it
38:10
like a commercial or an ad, right, and the podcast pauses and it
38:14
goes to the ad. But a lot of times now the YouTubers in the
38:16
middle of their YouTube they'll promote a product or they'll promote a company, and
38:22
then in that YouTube description there'll be an affiliate link to sign up there.
38:28
So that's another way of affiliate marketing. Like for me, if I were
38:32
to give your audience advice on how to be an affiliate, I wouldn't suggest
38:37
actually starting as a media buyer. I would say you want to either you
38:44
want to build an audience. So there are two main ways that you can
38:46
do that. You can start a blog. You can do either like a
38:52
personal blog and you're like an authority on food, or you're an authority on
38:55
tech, or you're an authority on marketing, or it can be all these
38:59
different types of niches. You can start a blog where you just review different
39:04
e commerce products, it can be like a generic one, or if you
39:08
feel really comfortable in front of a camera, you can start a YouTube page
39:13
or channel. And either way, the goal is you need to build an
39:20
audience. You need to build trust and authority, and if you can do
39:24
that over a long period of time, you can really start monetizing that audience
39:30
with the right brands and products fit the demographics of the of your audience.
39:37
So like starting a blog is the easiest way, right, like to become
39:43
an affiliate, I would say, is starting a blog. You don't have
39:45
to be on camera. You can just you know, sign up for all
39:49
these different affiliate programs. You can write reviews about different products. I mean,
39:53
honestly, there are some amazing companies out there AI that you don't even
40:01
need to write the content yourself, and you can. You can pump it
40:07
out and you can build a million dollar business through a blog. So like
40:13
the people on social media, the social media gurus, you're saying you can
40:15
make a million dollars through affiliate marketing by running a blog, they're right.
40:21
The problem that they're that they're not saying is the timeline that it takes.
40:24
It takes years typically just really start generating revenue, whether you're doing it through
40:32
like a social media platform like YouTube or through your blog. It just it
40:37
takes time and effort, Which brings me back to the first thing I said
40:40
is there's a lot of money to be made in affiliate marketing, but it
40:43
takes time and effort. Yeah. Yeah, And I think that's the key
40:49
to any of it is you got to put put the time in an effort
40:53
into it, right m hmm. Yeah, for sure, but like the
40:59
people that are that's the problem is that most people don't have the patience to
41:02
stick it out for the long run. But the people that are able to
41:07
do it are able to build these businesses that like, you can build a
41:12
blog, and you can build a blog that generates pretty significant revenue on a
41:17
monthly basis, and you can be just happy with that, right, and
41:21
you can have that blog forever. You can build out another blog and you
41:23
get all this cash flow coming in. But there are a lot of people
41:28
also that build blogs and that if they get it to a certain revenue level,
41:31
or you can sell it in the marketplace. You can sell a blog.
41:37
There are people that buy blogs online. There are marketplaces for buying and
41:43
selling blogs. And these blogs it's like, yes, it is. Some
41:47
of them are valued at like six figures. Some of them are valued at
41:51
a million, two million, Like it's it's insane, and so like that's
41:58
proof that it does work, right, there is a lot of money in
42:02
it. But these blogs, when you if you were to go on the
42:06
buy and sell and you would see how long they've been in existence, it's
42:08
like five, six, seven, eight years. You know, it's not
42:13
thirty days. No, it's likely thirty days. I mean some of the
42:19
some of the revenue streams that we have in our own system, they've they've
42:25
been with us since since the very beginning, you know, like I said,
42:30
we've we've we've been around for for eight years doing podcasting and doing shows
42:37
like this, and people are like, well, you don't have a viral
42:43
thing. It's like, no, it's not about viral. It's about having
42:46
a steady stream so that people get comfortable with you. Yea. How many
42:52
people are looking for that fast, quick whatever it is. Yeah, it's
42:58
a fast, quick dollar instant like dopamine hit. Learned willing to be patient
43:05
these days? Yeah, he said that the dopamine hit you know. So
43:12
yeah. Best advice for for people just wanting it to get into it,
43:20
what do you got for them? Best advice for someone looking to get into
43:24
affiliate marketing? I would say, learn to uh start a blog. There
43:31
are some really good people out there. There is Adam N. Frey.
43:38
Adam and his last name is Ian F r o y adamnfreud dot com.
43:45
He's someone that I've I actually know personally and i've so I've seen him like
43:51
he built his blog from zero dollars and he actually has it on his website.
43:55
He shows you how much he's made every single month. And it started
43:59
as zero and he just kept going and now it's like this blog is worth
44:05
millions of dollars kind of thing. And but there are a lot of other
44:09
people out there that that teach you how to start a blog. And I
44:14
would I would say you want to some people they want to start a blog
44:20
and they don't want to have any affiliate links. They didn't want to be
44:22
associated with affiliate They just want to be just want to have a blog to
44:25
just you know, be pure and you know, have people read it.
44:30
But you want to monetize that if you have an audience and and and adding
44:35
affiliate marketing and reviewing different products and reviewing different brands is a great way to
44:39
monetize that. So that would be my suggest and start a blog. If
44:44
you don't like writing, you don't need to even write it. There is
44:46
a company out there called content at Scale and basically it's an AI platform where
44:54
they can write long form review articles for you and you pay like a monthly
45:00
fee, but you can pump out like ten twenty thirty forty articles a month,
45:07
and this is one of the ways that you're able to fast track how
45:10
much traffic you're getting to the site, and that can like fast track the
45:14
way that you can actually earn money through affiliate marketing. Yeah, that'll be
45:17
my suggestion. Yeah, yeah, all right, so it's affiliate marketing is
45:25
a pretty good tool that I think did a lot of actual business owners overlook
45:31
also. So yep, yeah, so yeah, well, thanks for your
45:37
time today. It's like it's been been a lot of fun and I need
45:45
to talk to you more a little bit later on. I'm always here.
45:51
I think you said a few things I might be doing wrong. No for
45:54
able man, I'm always here to go. Yeah, so so it's been
45:59
really cool. All right, thank everybody for listening today. Please go to
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