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NFL First Look | Week 13 | DraftKings & FanDuel DFS Picks, Plays and Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All system's going clear.
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  Speaker 1: What's up? Everyone? Tyler Tambaline here aka TOTEG and Tambo
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  Speaker 1: back for another edition of the first Look show Here
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  Speaker 1: on the ship at Nation YouTube station. Got my guy
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  Speaker 1: DJN with me. Gotta breakdown all things Week thirteen upcoming
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  Speaker 1: couple housekeeping notes quick, just real fast. Thanksgiving, we know
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  Speaker 1: about it. Very important slate. We're excited the Black Friday
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  Speaker 1: game on Friday with Kansas City, the two things on
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  Speaker 1: that one. We will have a show an early show
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  Speaker 1: tomorrow on this channel, so make sure you subscribe. Hoop
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  Speaker 1: title and myself breaking down the three game slate. Got
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  Speaker 1: some other content coming out for the late Thursday game
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  Speaker 1: for Showdown, the Friday Showdown slate with the Stone Projections, ownership,
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  Speaker 1: all that and more. But we're gonna break down the
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  Speaker 1: week twelve listener League winner the Big Guy by Shipping
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  Speaker 1: Nation got whipped ninety nine. Then we're gonna go through
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  Speaker 1: the ten games slate, a little seven to three split.
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  Speaker 1: So Big Guy himself, I'm gonna bring you in, man,
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  Speaker 1: what's going on? How are you doing this week?
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  Speaker 3: It's a sad day. The beard is right after this.
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  Speaker 3: I'm having to get the Beard chopped off the winning streak.
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  Speaker 3: I finally did not win this Sunday, which is crazy
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  Speaker 3: because Saturday I almost shipped college football and I was like,
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  Speaker 3: I'm just on the heater of all eaters, and then
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  Speaker 3: they did a stack correction moved me back and it
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  Speaker 3: just kind of seemed to change the karma of the weekend,
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  Speaker 3: and before you know, we had the three big weeks
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  Speaker 3: that NFL's over.
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  Speaker 2: So as a man, in my word, I'm shaving the
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  Speaker 2: beard today.
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  Speaker 1: Don't say stack correction too loud with Nick and the chat.
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  Speaker 2: We know the college.
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  Speaker 1: Football stack corrections. Yikes, But where's Nick going on vacation?
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  Speaker 1: I wonder, shout at the new end Sean Sullivan, coach
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  Speaker 1: Sab Michael or Tea's and of course our guy Nick,
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  Speaker 1: he's leaving on vacation. But let's get into it, man,
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  Speaker 1: let's break this down. I'm gonna pull up the listener
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  Speaker 1: league winner from last week in the Big Guy. I
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  Speaker 1: can fix this up. We'll get this roll in here,
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  Speaker 1: got it? Yeah, and you can see that. Okay, So
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  Speaker 1: Whip ninety nine got the stack with Miami John hu
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  Speaker 1: Smith lower owned by the way in the Big Guy
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  Speaker 1: wasn't as popular as in some of the other stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Jacoby Meyers lower owned. He was super owned in the
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  Speaker 1: high stake stuff. But check it out. What do you
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  Speaker 1: think of this line up? Obviously pretty good to put
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  Speaker 1: up two oh seven, but quick breakdown here for Whip
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  Speaker 1: ninety nine.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's frustrating because I was all about Miami.
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  Speaker 3: I had a rule set that, like, every lineup must
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  Speaker 3: contain Wattle, Hill, a Chin or Smith, and I was
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  Speaker 3: okay with it, even putting two in there.
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  Speaker 2: And then I didn't put two with.
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  Speaker 3: Any of them because I just don't typically like two
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  Speaker 3: of stacks because he seems to get other people there
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  Speaker 3: without getting himself there. And this is the week he
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  Speaker 3: got him there and everybody on the team, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: just to just overstack Miami. It just seemed like a
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  Speaker 3: great play. Like they just seemed like they were doing
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  Speaker 3: for five hundred yards and thirty five points. So just
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  Speaker 3: when you start there, that's great. And uh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: he ate some he ate plenty of chalk, but he
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  Speaker 3: got he got different in the right spots and that's
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  Speaker 3: what matters. I mean, the Jacobs in the afternoon, just
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  Speaker 3: boat race everybody.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we will, right, Jen just quickly checking
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  Speaker 1: this out and I'll go back to the lineup. But
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  Speaker 1: the stone we're going to have up today for the
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  Speaker 1: first look is because this is for the main slight.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, we will cover show. We will cover
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  Speaker 1: the three game Thanksgiving slate tomorrow, and I would hope
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  Speaker 1: and I would expect that we'll have a stone up
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  Speaker 1: probably overnight, just to make that happen.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so what we want to cover the three games
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  Speaker 3: like first look on this is that what you're saying.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm saying he's asking. Danny's asking if
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  Speaker 1: the site's going to have a stone up for that,
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  Speaker 1: and it's just right now he's probably looking at the
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  Speaker 1: sight seeing the stone we're about to go through. So
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  Speaker 1: just wanted to clear that up.
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  Speaker 3: Let me tell you, I know the team that runs
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  Speaker 3: the stone, it'll always be there, prompt, ready and looking
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  Speaker 3: good with everything you need, with plenty of time.
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  Speaker 2: So I would I would bet they get it up
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  Speaker 2: for you.
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  Speaker 1: Different spin on the checks notes, but the team over
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  Speaker 1: Attribernation putting in the work behind the scenes. Checks notes
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  Speaker 1: pretty awesome, pretty awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Whatdy try hards, sweaty try, that's rule number one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we love that stuff. So we'll have it up Danny.
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  Speaker 1: Just going back to this lineup quick, I will say,
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  Speaker 1: speaking of the Stone, it really liked this new England
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  Speaker 1: Miami game hoop title. Myself ended up talking a ton
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  Speaker 1: about that on the Sunday Show and by the end
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  Speaker 1: of it we were like, man, maybe it's just got
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  Speaker 1: time to go back to that game. Everything makes sense there.
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  Speaker 1: It didn't all get there, but a lot of pieces did. Obviously.
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  Speaker 1: The downfall is if you played Tyreek. So I really
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  Speaker 1: love what Whip did here, going with Tua, sticking with
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  Speaker 1: a Chan at the ownership, but getting different by cutting
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  Speaker 1: into it with Tua and Johanu in this one and
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  Speaker 1: not having Tyreek. Now didn't have Wattle either, which would
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  Speaker 1: make the difference of all of the money because the
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  Speaker 1: Ridley to Wattle could have been even more. But you
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  Speaker 1: can't wait more than the first place in this tournament.
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  Speaker 1: So shout at the Whip ninety nine. The new one
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  Speaker 1: will go up on my ex and the ship at
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  Speaker 1: Nation X this afternoon for the big guy for this week.
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  Speaker 1: Still fifteen hundred entries, like it says up top here,
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  Speaker 1: so you can check that out. Ship at Nation dot com.
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  Speaker 1: and just any first look thoughts as you look at
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it is a ten gamer. It's the seven
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  Speaker 1: to three split. Any first thoughts before we get to
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  Speaker 1: the first game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: My first thought is I'm getting tired of bye weeks
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  Speaker 3: right because every week I'm like, man, I can't wait
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  Speaker 3: to play. You know, these guys in my lineup again.
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  Speaker 3: I like how this offense is moving, and then like
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  Speaker 3: they're just never on the slate. That gets a little old.
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  Speaker 3: But I truly have not looked at a game yet,
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  Speaker 3: Like I wanted to make this a true first look,
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  Speaker 3: So I have no opinion. Seven to three is you know,
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  Speaker 3: just standard. I like when there's the four afternoon games,
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  Speaker 3: eight early games or more. But what are we gonna do.
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  Speaker 3: We'll make it work with this one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the good news is, you know it's what
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  Speaker 1: you said. It is a true first look. We'll check
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  Speaker 1: out stuff on injuries as people can help out in
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  Speaker 1: the chat as we go along. That's what it's all about.
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  Speaker 1: Because I'm with you and I've been looking a lot
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  Speaker 1: more at the Thursday slate. I was taking slate by slate.
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  Speaker 1: We finished off last night. Shout out those Ravens, barely
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  Speaker 1: but getting the job done. It was closer than it looked.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it wasn't as close as it looked on paper.
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  Speaker 1: They got the late Gus Edwards touchdown after the two
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  Speaker 1: flags to get them there. And the Ravens just have
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  Speaker 1: no discipline when they're up in a game, so that's
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  Speaker 1: pretty standard. But speaking of that game, it goes into
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  Speaker 1: the first one here. We just saw the Chargers last
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  Speaker 1: night coming across now and right out of the gates.
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  Speaker 1: First game on the slate, Chargers at the Falcons. What's
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  Speaker 1: your thoughts on this one?
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  Speaker 3: Like I can't believe this, like Justin Herbert to do that,
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  Speaker 3: like you know, best ball. I was just fading hardcore.
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  Speaker 3: I just thought they had run the shit out of
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  Speaker 3: the ball this year. Have no passing game, and that's
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  Speaker 3: kind of what they did at the start. But like
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  Speaker 3: if you're watching these games, like Justin Herbert's like running
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  Speaker 3: the ball a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: He takes lots of downfield shots.
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  Speaker 3: And if you don't know the importance of downfield shots
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  Speaker 3: in DFS, you need to understand this. It's not only
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  Speaker 3: does your quarterback get chances at huge plays, huge touchdowns
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  Speaker 3: and yardages, but it's also consistently either pushing the pace
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  Speaker 3: of the game because they're completing these in scoring touchdowns,
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  Speaker 3: or they're throwing in completions, which is allowing more plays
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  Speaker 3: to happen. It's second and ten now, and they're still
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  Speaker 3: throwing the ball. So if Justin Herbert's going to continue
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  Speaker 3: to chunk the ball down the field forty times a game,
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  Speaker 3: I think I'm actually warming up to charger stacks. And
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  Speaker 3: then you put him in a dome versus the falcon
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  Speaker 3: shitty defense. Now I'm getting real warm to the idea
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  Speaker 3: and Justin Herbert to do that's never on my radar.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, shots are one thing. How about Quinton Johnston downfield drops.
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  Speaker 2: Back to who he is?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Who he is? Well Stone hands Johnston.
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  Speaker 1: That was so bad yesterday people were literally thinking he
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  Speaker 1: was dropping them on purpose. At one point, it was
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  Speaker 1: like there was four in a row or something. It
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  Speaker 1: just non stop. The first one when you're looking up field,
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  Speaker 1: that happens. He was kind of cold, hadn't be getting
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  Speaker 1: the targets. You know, it happens three more after that
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  Speaker 1: or whatever it was. Was just embarrassing and certainly hurtful
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  Speaker 1: in the showdown streets last night. But we had some
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  Speaker 1: nice winners over at Shipping Nation. We posted up on
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  Speaker 1: the X account today a lot of big wins. Shout
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  Speaker 1: out to our guy Scarface two got one of the
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  Speaker 1: biggest ones. But just breaking this down, who are some
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  Speaker 1: of the guys like Lad mcconky just looks incredible, Like
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  Speaker 1: it's been the two weeks and we just keep making
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  Speaker 1: fun of this guy and he keeps doing it. And
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a better or higher level than making
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  Speaker 1: fun of Nick Westbrook a Kine scoring a touchdown every
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  Speaker 1: week or Noah Gray back to back big weeks versus
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  Speaker 1: this guy just looks like a stud out there in
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  Speaker 1: sixty one hundred. Is fair? You know it's up, but fair.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think about him? And then anybody on
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  Speaker 1: the other side on Atlanta you want to talk about.
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  Speaker 3: You know a lot of people look at mconakey, they're
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  Speaker 3: little flowed to play him because his target numbers aren't
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  Speaker 3: that big. But you gotta remember they're just now starting
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  Speaker 3: to pass as much as they are running. You know,
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  Speaker 3: they're pass above, they're passing above expectations going up. And
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  Speaker 3: here's what I can tell you about McConkey. Even if he
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  Speaker 3: did average one or two fewer targets than his peers,
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  Speaker 3: his completion rate, right, he catches everything, So his completion rate,
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  Speaker 3: he actually gets more receptions on fewer targets because he
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  Speaker 3: has such a high completion rate when Herbert throws to him.
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  Speaker 3: So mcconkey's a dude that's really moving up for me
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  Speaker 3: and would be the first guy I would want to
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  Speaker 3: stack Herbert with. And the Falcons always have my favorite
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  Speaker 3: run back with Bijon that that dude's been very good
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  Speaker 3: to me this year. So there's just no way I'm
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  Speaker 3: not going to be involved in this game somehow.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and one other thing we should note, and I
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  Speaker 1: didn't get the full update on it after the game
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  Speaker 1: last night, but obviously JK. Dobbins left, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: people are talking now about the backup and what's the guys.
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  Speaker 1: Nam Kamani Vidal is the other guy that people are
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  Speaker 1: talking about picking up and you know you've got Gus
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  Speaker 1: Edwards there whatever else, But man, you could see a
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  Speaker 1: spot here like this is one of the things we
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  Speaker 1: always it's you know, people said it. I think it
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  Speaker 1: was yesterday, you know, talking about going away from some
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  Speaker 1: their first look stuff. And you know, it was on
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  Speaker 1: Takedown breakdown the other day with Nads and I. We
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  Speaker 1: were breaking it down on the channel and they're saying,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I looked at that Chicago spot last week
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  Speaker 1: with Chicago versus Minnesota, because everyone can pass on these vikings,
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  Speaker 1: yet nobody ended up there. So we talked a lot
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  Speaker 1: about it. It's not even a diamond in the rough.
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  Speaker 1: It was literally an amazing spot for a pass game offense,
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  Speaker 1: and we just didn't want to do it because we're
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  Speaker 1: kind of over Caleb Williams, we weren't sure about Keenan
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  Speaker 1: Allen whatever. But you can find stuff like that, and
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  Speaker 1: if people are looking here and say, well, you can
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  Speaker 1: run all over the Falcons, then they decide to get
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  Speaker 1: hyped about one of those running backs. We don't know,
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  Speaker 1: it's only Tuesday right now. Well don't forget that little
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  Speaker 1: d right there. And then on top of it, we're
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  Speaker 1: in the Dome, So the d's for Dome, the d's
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  Speaker 1: for you know, their past defense not good. It could
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  Speaker 1: end up being a spot here where this goes a
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  Speaker 1: little bit overlooked versus the other. We'll have to wait
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  Speaker 1: and see as the week goes on. But I like
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  Speaker 1: that call, always.
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  Speaker 3: Tell you, let me give you a process note, which
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  Speaker 3: I felt like I had. You know, I had the
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  Speaker 3: streak ended this last weekend, so of course I did
• 10:54
  Speaker 3: a little breakdown. I think all good DFS players should say,
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  Speaker 3: why didn't my week go as well this week as
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  Speaker 3: it did on other ones? And I had a key
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  Speaker 3: takeaway that I wanted to share with you and get
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  Speaker 3: your thoughts on and with everybody else out there. Whenever
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  Speaker 3: value opens up at running back, which there was value
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  Speaker 3: that opened up at running back this last week. The
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  Speaker 3: two most popular were, of course Brian Robinson with Washington
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  Speaker 3: and who the hell was the other guy that was?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, in Kareem Hunt.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody was playing those two low six thousands, upper five
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  Speaker 3: thousands for both of them right, and I ate both
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  Speaker 3: of them. And I did not play a Mira Abdullah,
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  Speaker 3: And the more I thought about it, I did that
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  Speaker 3: exactly wrong. I think whenever there's a hurt running back,
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  Speaker 3: and running backs value opens up. I do not think
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  Speaker 3: that it is great to get the guys who are
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  Speaker 3: mainly first and second down backs, because rushing yards don't
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  Speaker 3: add up, and those guys get very reliant on falling
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  Speaker 3: in the box, right, Whereas when that value opens up
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  Speaker 3: for pass catching guys, well, we already know that they're
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  Speaker 3: pass catchers, so they offer us that floor. There's a
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  Speaker 3: chance that that's going to continue to grow, and now
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  Speaker 3: they're going to get more rushing yards and potentially a
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  Speaker 3: rushing touchdown along with that. So in hindsight, I should
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  Speaker 3: have been probably fading the Robinson and Hunt stuff because
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  Speaker 3: those guys become so dependent on the box for a
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  Speaker 3: good one and am playing a mirror and I did
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  Speaker 3: it completely backwards, and when you did that, your weekend
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  Speaker 3: was over right there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually love that call. And you know, obviously
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  Speaker 1: review a big part of what I do. The takedown
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  Speaker 1: breakdown a prime example too, where we talk about this stuff.
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  Speaker 1: My thought was similar. But that's so funny just to
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  Speaker 1: think where we both are doing the same process thinking
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  Speaker 1: about our game, reviewing it and we come up with
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  Speaker 1: a different solution. Mine was on Kareem Hunt. I'm the
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  Speaker 1: never Mahomes guy, and I was always sticking to that.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't breaking free from you know, it's just another week.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care. But if I truly thought that if
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  Speaker 1: there ever was going to be a good Mahomes week,
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  Speaker 1: not just because the pricing, but the matchup was good.
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  Speaker 1: The leverage you get off of Hunt, like if they're
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  Speaker 1: from a DFS perspective, I said, it's the best spot
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  Speaker 1: to get on Mahomes. I'm still not going to do it.
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  Speaker 1: But that should have made me not results oriented. That
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  Speaker 1: should have still made me think maybe I should keep
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  Speaker 1: my Kareem Hunt stuff in check now adding your piece
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  Speaker 1: of the process and piece of the puzzle. Well, Abdulah
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  Speaker 1: is also right there, and maybe that gets me off
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  Speaker 1: one of these shitty quarterbacks up to Jayden Daniels or
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  Speaker 1: something like that. And I know there wasn't value that
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  Speaker 1: people loved at wide receiver, but maybe it gets me
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  Speaker 1: from Hunter Henry to McBride. Maybe it gets me from
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  Speaker 1: Geno Smith up to jad and Daniels and I can
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  Speaker 1: fit something else and instead. So yeah, I think that's
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  Speaker 1: a great way to look at it, and certainly something
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  Speaker 1: you should add in to your game if you're not
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  Speaker 1: doing that already, and just real quick to move off
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: this game. I will say this, I don't know what
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: was worse last night was stressing if Quentin Johnson's gonna
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: actually catch a ball or the you know, needing the
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: Henry stuff, and just wondering is he gonna actually bust
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: one because some of those runs he was just dragging
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: guys with him. Not everybody is Derrick Henry, but Bijon
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: would be up in that class. Is you know, younger
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: version now of what we think could do that. So
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: I love your Bijon call. Just to note in this
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: game as well, even though you're gonna see it here.
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: Oh it's not really the best rush. That was something
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: that I was talked about last night, where the Chargers
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: had been better against the run, but they also hadn't
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: seen someone like Derrick Henry or someone of his caliber.
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: Bijeon's got the caliber. We've seen what he's been doing
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: this season, So I like that one. Let's move on,
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: Steelers at the Bengals. Give me your thoughts here, sorry.
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: AFC North battle.
• 13:56
  Speaker 3: You know these AFC North battles, I know like that
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: the narrative is is that they're always kind of like,
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: especially once you get to November and December, they're kind
• 14:03
  Speaker 3: of grinded out type games. But I mean when you're
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: looking at the total here, Vegas is putting forty seven
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: on this, so like they're telling us they are expecting
• 14:11
  Speaker 3: more scoring than normal and if the weather's good here,
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: I mean, this could be one of those sneaky shootout games.
• 14:15
  Speaker 3: I've been kind of looking for a reason to play
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: Russell Wilson Stacks, which I can't believe those words that
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: are coming out of my mouth right now. But if
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: they're going to you know, the Bengals are not afraid
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: to get in a good shootout we've seen this year
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: and can break the slate. So the real question is
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: is like how affordable is it to like to run
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: Joe Burrow stacks? And if I did, you know, like
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: who's the Steelers run back? Because I'm kind of a
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: never nause guy, like you're never a Mahmes guy, and
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: I just don't know that I can start a lineup
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: with Burrow, Chase Higgins and Pickens right like there better
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: be some serious value open up at running back. But
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: you know this game Vegas is telling us gonna be
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: higher scoring. I would probably, you know, until I look
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: at the rest of these games, I'm probably gonna not
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: be as warm to it.
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: But we'll see here.
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this stack ranking thing is important to me as well.
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: I just think that's we don't talk about enough or
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: gets noted. That's why we've incorporated it into the best
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: tool in DFS in the Stone. But we have stack
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: rankings here on the site. And one of the things
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: is like the obvious, right, if you go by projection, Burrow, Chase,
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: Higgins gonna look awesome. That's gonna be one of the
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: highest projected stacks because look how much it costs seven
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: K eighty six hundred and sixty six hundred. So the
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: nice thing about our stack ranking is it's value based.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: It incorporates the salary and makes the thought process around that.
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: So I think that's something I'll be keeping an eye
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: on because it's really tricky to get Burrow, Chase and Higgins.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: I kind of like Burrow would just Chase and then
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: see if I can use value elsewhere. And if it's
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: a big Chase day, you get that or give me
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: the two grand let me get it to Higgins and
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: maybe find somebody else in there. Maybe it's a tight
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: end or a backup you ride receiver. Have to wait
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: and see any extra thoughts there just.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: No, I'm sure you've heard the stat.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: But when Higgins had Chase both play, Higgins is averaging
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: over over one like target more per game than Chases.
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: Chase Cash is his end more. But Higgins is getting
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: one more extra target and you're getting that for two
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: thousand dollars cheaper. And it's not like Higgins doesn't catch touchdowns.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you don't even have to do the double stat.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: You could just avoid the wide receiver one quote unquote
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: in some cases, by the way, Higgins on a lot
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: of teams would be the wide receiver one. The dude
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: is awesome.
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: I just if you want to build, if you want
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: to build, really weird that backfield still Chase Brown. Don't
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: think he can't take a thirty yard screen to the
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: house and be part of a winning lineup with Burrow.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And that would be also something interesting because you
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: know all that money you save there is now like
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: if you put it two grand there, that's you'll get
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: Chase Brown maybe instead of having to go to somebody
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: else or move value around so I don't hate that call.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: I didn't remember this either. I gotta go back, shut
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: up to our guy Ross while we love our chat
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: here mcdonkey chuck. Oh yeah, back in the Georgia Dome,
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: I forgot. I'm not in the college streets as much
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: as you. But that's his school, right, University of Georgia,
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: and he's from Georgia.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: I think, who are you talking about, oh donkey, Yeah, yeah,
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: he definitely a Georgia boy.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: They could use him this year.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's and he's going back into the Georgia,
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: into Georgia, into the Dome. So that could be a
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: thing right where people do get excited about that this
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: week on the Pittsburgh side, For me, it's what you said,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: you know, George Pickens still fair price at sixty eight hundred.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: It's it is what it is.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: We'll see how the week goes on and everything else
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: that comes out with value. But if you just landed
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: on someone like him, I'm fine with them as a
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: one off. It doesn't need to be in this stack.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: If you think they're going to be down in this
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: game and he's just getting all those catches, I'm fine
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: with Him's sixty eight hundred bucks. I think it's fair
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: or is.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: The secondary correlation Pickens and Higgins, right, I mean that's
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: a it's not a cheap secondary stack, but you know
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: it's there is correlation. Both of them could get both
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: of them could go for one hundred and two touchdowns.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: That game could kind of go off, and you just
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: got the right pieces of it.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, another quick strategy knowne on that and get your toy.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: I want your thoughts on it, because, like you gave
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: me good thoughts on the last one. Is that's fine
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: to me because I like that was what's last week.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Sutton and Myers like really similar. They're in the six
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: k range. Some people are hating on them because their ownership.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: I get it, but they were their wide receiver ones
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: on their team at a fair price and they can
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: just rack up you know, eight for one hundred and
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: eight and one and not need their quarterback. I kind
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: of cut it off there for the most part, though,
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Like I see people doing like a you know, an
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: eighty eight hundred dollars Jefferson with a eighty three hundred
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: dollars a monraw on the other side, and yes, it's
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: possible they get there. Together, but then they're doing it
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: as a secondary and not with the quarterback. And I'm thinking, Man,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: if one of those guys actually hits their ceiling today
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: to make it where you need it, you usually will
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: see the quarterback involved, Right, Is that sort of how
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: you'd think about it too.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: Most of the time, whenever you start to get certain thresholds,
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: it's just impossible for a wide receiver to have a
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: good game and the quarterback to not also come along
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: with them. And as far as secondary stacks go, I
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: prefer receiver receiver.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Like my favorite.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: Secondary stack last week, the only damn thing I did
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: right is I had a lot of Wattle and then
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: I would force it to go back against one of
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: the Patriots receivers who ended up being a lot of
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: Pop Douglas and Wattle had the big game. Pop Douglass
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: was good enough, right, But that was a really nice
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: secondary stack. It was just all my mainstacks fucking sucked,
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: so it didn't really matter what my secondary stack was,
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: even though I hit Wattle very nicely.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you had a went to Addison and any
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Chicago receiver basically except oduons like Romo Dunza, you would
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: have been all right because Keenan Allen, DJ Moore, those
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: guys came through. But yeah, there's ways to do it,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: and I definitely like it that way as well. So
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: let's move on. Let's go to the Texans. At the Jags.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Texans still got the big total. They are hard to
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: figure out though. Man, we saw you called Nico last week.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Was on my notes, you all gonna be the bounce
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: back off everything. He had a good day. It wasn't like,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: you know, break the slave.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Because he gets every fucking touchdown called back and one
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: was a touchdown called back that would have also got
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: him one hundred yard bonus.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: So the double kick in the dick.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: There are times in the chart. Maybe get back to
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: him this week. Look at that, Look at those grades.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Did is Jacksonville?
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, look the c J.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Stroud, their offense, everything about him is so much more
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: pass forward and effective when Nico's out there. I still
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: don't think he's one hundred percent. He's still only playing
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: about eighty percent of snaps, but he is getting his
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: target share back. The Texans, you know, when Nico plays,
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: I'm interested in them. The problem is is it just
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: feels like the Jags are not going to push this
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: game at all. This just literally feels like it's going
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: to be like a twenty four to seventeen type game.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: And it almost just feels like the Texans are gonna
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: run at me. Bland probably run fifty five plays, and
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: I feel like that really kills the upside, Like it
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: just doesn't feel like this game could kind of take
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: off like that Texans game took off last week, And
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: that would be my biggest concern with this game. You know, like,
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: do we have any Jaguar injury updates? That would be
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: the biggest news I need to know about.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't have him here, but I
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: would say that that's probably gonna be part of the
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: discussion as the week goes on. Also, Joe Mixon, right,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: he kind of let I guess he would, you would say,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: let some people down. Last week it's all like it was,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: you know, overwhelmingly Chalk or anything like that. But this
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: is definitely a great matchup for him. And you just
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: talked about maybe there's just them running the ball a bunch.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: How much Steam? You're like, how much ownership do you
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: think mixing gets and Steam is the week goes on
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: at eight k not quite best by pricing, but with
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: this good matchup here.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Ten percent.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: I mean that, I'm telling you that that that eight
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: thousand number, It just it does something to people mentally,
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: Like when you were putting an eight thousand dollars guy
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: in your lineup, you almost feel like that's the cornerstone
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: of your lineup, right, And I don't know that many
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: people want to build a cornerstone of their lineup with
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: Joe Mixon. So I think that keeps his ownership in check,
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: especially with just so many good running backs and the
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: sixes and seven thousands. So I would say, you know,
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: he's a great play, just based on the ownership that
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: I would project him on on a Tuesday, which I
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: could be wrong, but I would guess around ten percent.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll check it out in a second, Ross says
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: the Guzbuss, going back to the first one. Nine carries,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: eleven yards and a TD. Like, I watched the whole
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: game till the end. My kids woke up this morning
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: and it said Daddy did the Ravens win. I said, yeah,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: by two touchdowns. I even forgot about his TV at
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: the end of the game. It was so it was
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: just irrelevant. It was the standard Gus Edwards thing that
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: he does, so yeah it was. It was forgetful. This
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: is the other thing. Go ahead.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna say, biggest bet of the year I
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: have placed all year was on the Ravens. I was
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: going to text you to get your blessing before I
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: placed it, but I was like, I don't want to
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: get scared off of this, so I just knew the
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: Ravens were going to beat the shit out of him.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: It was so tilting from all of what I thought
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: the game was going to be, because it was definitely
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: on a huge underpace for a while, all the flags
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: down the stretch, all the the touchdowns at the end
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: of the halfs on both sides. It was like all
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: that stuff had to happen, and then on top of
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: it the Lamar line, Like, you know, Herbert could have
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: ran that last one in Lamar did his little move
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: from high school where he sneaks the guy and then
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: jumps in but still got to the top. And I
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: did not win money, but it was honestly insane. I
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: think only lost like thirty percent of my buy ins,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: and I had no Lamar captain at all.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Last night.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: He was basically needed, but you know he was in
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: the optimal versus what tons of lineups were right behind
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: him that you could have got there with. So that's
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: the way it goes. That's the showdown game and why
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: we like it. Just the last thing on the mix
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: and stuff at Again, We'll see how his ownership goes
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: as the week goes on, but at a K, I
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: think you nailed it. It might change the game a
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: little bit when people start seeing some of these other
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: mid range guys that we're gonna get to. That's just
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: how they feel about it. So if that's the case,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: I will have interest in mixing as the week goes on,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: especially if he's going to be changing the build. And
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: then the last thing on the game in general, I
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: love that we have pace on the stone because f
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: and A, this game goes one of two ways, right.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: But if it's Trevor Lawrence, is there any chance he's playing.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: I haven't kept up with him at all, but like
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: they will have a faster pace if he plays, especially
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: if they get behind and have a functional quarterback.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Returns to practice twenty four hours ago, four hours ago,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: gets a well.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: Then Trevor's right there, especially Brian Thomas has got to
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: be getting closer back to one hundred percent. You could
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: tell he's been dragging ass Ingram, Bryan Thomas, Lawrence Stack's
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: running back with Nico or Mixon, that all of a
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: sudden could become pretty interesting.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say for sure this game would be
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: more sneaky right that we'll probably see.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the sneaky ast shit. I don't think people
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: are gonna be on this, especially with what is that
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: a forty four point total? Forty three and a half.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: It looks like, yeah, nice low total.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: But it's like the Chicago Minnesota game where you're like, oh,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: or the Tennessee game, which was by the way with
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: the Texans last week, where everyone's like, oh, the Titans suck.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: There's no way they're gonna put up. They got a
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: seventeen point team total. Yeah, and they handled it in
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: the first quarter and it started this thing off. It
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: could have went better, I'm saying, but it still went
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: pretty good from that Matt manor so, I think that's
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: something interesting to keep an eye on as well. Let's
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: go to this next game. Speaking of the Vikings, We've
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: got the Vikings at home versus the Cardinals, and this
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: one surprisingly lower total as well. Just I thought, you know,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Minnesota the Cardinals, I know it hasn't looked great lately,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: but with the options they have to go back and forth,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: this feels to me like it could be just a
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: sneaky the last one. Why couldn't this game go off?
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's just the quarterback play. I think
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: I think Sam Darnold has really dipped the last four weeks.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: Kyler Murray kind of looked like call of duty was
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: out this last week, you know, like it just wasn't
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: great play from either offense, which is gonna suppress the total.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: Especially that Vikings defense has the ability to just completely
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: shut teams down, right, Like they play a really unique
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: defense where they get after your ass. Sometimes it burns them,
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: but a lot of times they can shut teams down.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: And then the Vikings, you know, they just I I
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: They're just they haven't been playing that well offensively, so
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: that's gonna keep the total down, which makes this game.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be pretty sneaky.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: I don't think people are gonna be jumping on this,
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: and guys like Justin Jefferson and Marvin Harrison are going
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: to probably be sub teen percent. I would bet and
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Art could break the slate.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: What did the Vikings say? I didn't catch the up
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: did Are they gonna assign Daniel Jones?
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen any Daniel Jones news, so I do
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: not know.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I know he's there. He said he's gonna like he
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: cleared Waver, He's gonna take some time to make his decision.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: All this, I thought the Vikings commented on it. But
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: it's interesting to watch anyway. But yeah, I think the
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: one thing man just killing me is this Addison, Like,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: look at Addison still fifty three hundred and Jefferson's eighty
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: one and Jefferson's way back, Like we want Jefferson. We
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: know what he is, top two, arguably you know, number
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: one wide receiver in the league. It's him. Jamar Chase
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: is what people are comparing day in day out, and
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: that's fair. But it's like and Lamb is up there
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: some other guys. Everyone will have their guy. But I'm
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: just saying it's insane. But he's gotta have a good
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: game at some point here, isn't he like where it's
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: you know, thirty plus points and that is gonna bring
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: his quarterback along and then there's run back options on
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: the other side. You could see Trey McBride, you could
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: see Marv Harrison Junior. I mean, this definitely is a
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: spot for that. Do you have any thoughts on just
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: these passes, like the Jefferson Addison comparison, because Naylor is
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: getting more work than Jefferson. It seems at times it.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Seems like defensive they're just saying, we're not gonna let
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: this Jefferson got beat us. Which've always wondered, like why
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: more teams don't play like the Patriots used to. Let's
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: just take the other team's best player away and let's
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: make all their slap dicks beat us, right, And it
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: just seems like for several weeks that's what they've been doing.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson, because he's healthy, he's explosive, he still makes
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: the catches when they throw it to him. It's just
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: not getting He's just not getting the volume he normally does.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: And you know, the Vikings might be doing that on purpose.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: The defense is maybe doing that on purpose, but it's happened.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: And by the way, Trey McBride I was all about
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: last week. I got a lot of them in there
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: because I just thought his touchdown variants is due. He
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: got there and he still didn't score damn touchdown. Trey
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: McBride is due for like a thirty five point game
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: with two touchdowns, even though I think he still got
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: to like he might not almost got thirty last week.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: All right, McBride, Kyler, Jefferson, bang, there we go, and
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: if you want to go Darnold, go ahead. But I
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: I lean the Kyler's side.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: I don't like the quarterbacks in this game, but I
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: do like some of the pieces. I got some nastiest,
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: some smellier quarterbacks to play than these a holes.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and also I guess the Jefferson McBride secondary. I
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: know we talked earlier about it, like the ceiling of
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: a guy, but he's still eighty one. He's not eighty
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: eight or eighty nine. He can catch you like ten
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: balls for one seventy and nothing and still be valuable.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: But if you're putting him with McBride, you're cutting into one,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: you're using up a tight end position you gotta fill anyway.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Two you're cutting into the average of the two. Just
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: similar to that, like six K six K mid range.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: So I'm good with that. I think that's interesting too.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: And then what was the other thing some of oh
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: the Trey McBride thing, Well, we go to the next
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: game here because we're going to Colts Patriots. But the
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Trey McBride is the prime example what you and I
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: always talk about, like, oh, they can't put up any
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: points their team totals only this The Cardinals scored six
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: points last week, and Trey McBride, at what fifty five
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: hundred or whatever he was, had almost thirty fantasy points
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: twenty eight fantasy points when the team scored six. It's
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: you're looking for fantasy points. It's nice when you get
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: real life points that help that bluo stuff even more.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: But that was a just prime example showing you can
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: still get almost thirty fantasy points on six actual.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: And I want to just talk to some people out
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: there because this is you know, I've always usually been
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: not a tight end in the flex guy, but my
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: stance on that's really changed this year.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: And I think if you just go look at Trey mc.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: Bride at fifty eight hundred and compare him to the
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: wide receivers, a lot of times that you would be
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: running into at fifty eight hundred, you know, when you're
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: making that final decision for your flex, I think he
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: compares as good, if not better than most of them.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: So you know, don't be afraid to put elite tight
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: ends in the flex because as we've seen with McBride,
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: he has twenty eight point upside, and to be honest,
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: he did that with no touchdown, so he probably has
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: more like thirty five point upside.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of that, we'll go to the next game here,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Colts and the Patriots. Do you want to play Trey
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: McBride in the flex if you have to choose, or
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Michael Pittman Junior or Josh Downs, Cause that's like, you know,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: it's fair and Josh Downs maybe you know a little
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: bit better than what we've seen out of Pittman lately.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: But I mean, just quick joke on that one, going
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: back to the previous statement you made. That's the kind
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: of decisions you're looking at things like that.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, this game right here, like Richardson's throwing
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: the ball very nice. I you know, I played him.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: He was one of my three stacks this last week,
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: and his wide receivers actually did well. Right Downs got hurt,
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: still put up a good game Pittman was actually like
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: serviceable for the first time all year. So the crazy
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: thing is is Richardson was getting his receivers there while
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: not getting himself there, which I never had on my radar.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: And then, sadly for the Patriots also played Drake Nace stacks.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Those did not go so well, and I almost have
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: to tell you I think I'm done with the Patriots
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: for a while, so I can't. I'm really struggling to
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: get in on any of these guys over here because
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: the Patriots are on my bad list right now. I
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: couldn't even get like my secondary slap dicks there. Like
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: Hunter Henry didn't do shit.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Really.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Everyone says that he's the guy that everyone plays that
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: never does anything. It's starting to feel kind of true,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: right He's.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: Got yeah, I mean he got me like twenty points
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: one week, and I think I just want to hold
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: on to that. But I don't ever play Henry unless
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: I have him connected to may you know, Like there's
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: some guys I'll play like I like Hunter Henry at
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: four thousand when he's part of a stack, but like
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: a naked Hunter Henry as a one off or a
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: correlation piece, I'm usually out like a fat getting dodgeball.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like it. The one thing I will say,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: like even a Donnai Mitchell I had a touchdown drop
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: I think where it was a close call, like there.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Was Downs is out, and when Downs is out, Mitchell
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: will get more run He'll be he'll be out there
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: as much as Pierce, and he gets a lot more targets.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: I don't say he's a better he's a better wide
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: receiver than Pierce. I'm not saying he's better dfs. I'm
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: just saying like they spent basically a first round pick
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: on him, so they have some incentive to get him going,
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: and he's thirty nine hundred dollars.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's certainly something to that. And I
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: love your call, Like if you just want to run
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: the Colt side, no runbacks, fine with that. Did you
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: have any did you have any thoughts of the run.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: I know we haven't spent a ton of time on
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: the slate overall yet really talking about too many. I
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: think there's some good games coming up where we'll be
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: talking about it. But anything on JT at the nice
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: price of sixty nine hundred or fifty nine hundred best
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: buy on the other side best buy Ramandre over there
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: any thoughts on those two?
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: I just don't.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: I just I told myself a couple of weeks ago, like,
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: it's just not Jonathan Taylor's yere. I just don't everybody,
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: This isn't justin Jefferson where he's going to break out eventually.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: I just don't think he's ever going to have that week.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: And so even though that pricing getting below seven thousand
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: looks so salivating, I still just don't think he's going
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: to get there. I just the Colts offense just is
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: not built through him right now, and they'd have to
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: make him probably fifty five hundred before I would play him.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: That's kind of where I'm at.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: If anything, I'm considering another nasty ass Richardson stack because
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: I'm a glutton for punishment.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the one side I would have more
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: interested in is the Remandre side. Obviously it's a good
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: matchup at home. They do want to just keep hammering
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: it with him. He still can pick up a few
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: targets all that. Again, we'll see what the slate brings,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: but fifty nine hundred bucks pretty fair depending on what
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: you're looking for on this slate. So definitely flip it
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: and go that way. Let's go to the Seahawks at
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: the Jets. This is, you know, another couple teams we've
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: been trying to make work for quite some time now.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: I'd say JSM has kind of proved himself at least
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: to this point. He's made up for it, even with
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: DK back and all of that. But what's your thoughts
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: on this one here? Seahawks at the Jets.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: No way I'm stacking this game. But then I also
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: think there's no way I'm not gonna have some piece.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: It's like, it's gonna be so hard for me unless
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: they're just runaway chalk donkeys. I don't see how jsn
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: Or and Breese Hall will not be in my playerpool.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: I just I like both of them. I don't really
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: care about the total, the you know, the Jets only
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: having a nineteen point team total. Breese Hall just can
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: get it done so many ways right that I'm not
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: worried about it. And for the past several weeks since
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: Sala got fired, it's basically been the Breese Hall show
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: at like ninety percent of the snaps. They've basically just
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: given up on Braylen Allen and This doesn't seem like
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: a week that they would just magically bring him out.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: So I just don't see any way I'm not getting
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: to those two. Outside of that, I'm pretty lukewarm on
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: everybody else.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: I feel the same actually, and usually I'm a guy
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: that wants to play g know, and it just hasn't
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: been great. And I know that's not a reason to
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: completely go away from it. But you know, if I'm
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: playing them, I'm stacking them. It's pretty standard stuff. We'll
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: see as the week goes on. I like the Breese
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Hall run back better than anything else here that we're
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: looking at. That's sort of how I would set it up.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: But I think Kenneth Walker is gonna be the guy
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: I would keep an eye on here more because again
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: it depends too but if more one, you can definitely
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: play him and Breese Hall together. Those two guys can
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: sort of get there in a bunch of different ways.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: They can fall into the end like what you talked
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: about earlier, these one and two down backs where it's like, yeah,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: they got to get there and the rushing yards don't
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: really rack up. Both these guys can catch a ton
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: of passes. Both of them can catch you know, they're
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: better than most receivers in the league when they want
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: to run that out route and be able to be
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: out there for a twenty yard catch. Even both these
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: guys this season have made huge catch touchdowns that we've
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: talked about, so I don't mind them against each other.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: But if like Breese Hall gets all the scheme and
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: no one wants Kenneth Walker, I'm fine with that too.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: So I think that's sort of how I'm handling this
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: game right now. And the team totals are more than
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: fine for playing seven K running backs seventy five hundred
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: running back, so I'm good with that. Back to these
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: commanders at home, big team total going up against the Titans.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: We saw the Titans last week another Nick Westbrook a
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: keen a touchdown. Pollard looked fine, Jayden Daniels looked good.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin got there late in the game, Noah Brown
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: was trying to rack stuff up. Ertz was getting some catches.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: What what's your thoughts on this game here, Titans commanders.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: I think the Titans are kind of turning into like
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: the sneaky perfect guys that you want to stack against
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: because they their offense has been efficient. They throw the shit,
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: I think the ball down field more than any team
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: in the NFL. I don't have any stats to back
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: that up, just anecdotally watching all the games on Sunday.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: No one is throwing the ball down the field more
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: than the Titans, right, And so these Titans, if they're
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: going to continue to push the pace score these points,
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: that's going to push Jayden Daniels also and the commanders,
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: everybody on their team to push the pace. And like
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: games like this end up being like thirty one, twenty
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: seven and stuff like that, and a lot of yards
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: sou and Calvin Ridley's actually very fairly priced.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Tony Pollard very fairly priced.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: And this is the kind of game that, like, I
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: would want to get a commander stacked with one Titans
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: run back and hope that I get the guy that
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: continues to push the pace, because this is probably three
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: or four of the last four weeks the Titans have
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: pushed the pace against the teams that are against and
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: that's what we need at DFS.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Pollard, you got to think picks up some steam
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: with his matchup too, right, Like people saw him off
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: to wait and see how it all shakes out obviously
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: spears out last week, so that was part of it.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Yet he didn't really get steamed at all. Pollard was,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: you know, there, but no one really wanted him because
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: it's tough. But you know, now see this f over here,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: you can roll that, Like I m'd be fine with
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: even like a Jaden and pick one and then run
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: it back with Pollard and just move on like that
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: to me is a good.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Spot all you need.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, anything on the running back for the Commanders. Like
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: you know, we saw Brian Robbinson get hurt last week.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: And Eckler's and eckler Is has a is in concussion protocol,
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: so I highly doubt he plays.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: So here's a perfect example.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: If it is Jeremy McNichols, right, there's gonna be so
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: much value at fifty four hundred, and Jeremy McNichols is
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: one of those first and second down guys. If he's
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: going to get the thirty or thirty five percent ownership
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: this week, I think I should just hate him, like
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: I like, he is not one of those guys that's
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: involved in the past game. Actually I say that, yeah, No,
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: he have just point two targets a game so far,
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: so he's the first and second down back, and instead
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: of eating that chok, I wouldn't. Whereas let's say it
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: was McNichols that was out and Eckler was still gonna play,
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: I would be all about eating that Eckler chock because
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: I know the floor that he's going to offer me
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: in the past game, and then now I'm going to
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: get some additional rushes from him because he's going to
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: be their lead back. So this's just like a perfect
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: example of like how I think I should have played
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: it last week versus how I did play it.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Also, I think it's on the flip side of the
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: exact conversation. Like Pollard, who we already liked and can
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: sort of do everything, but he still gets targets people
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: not the exact same thing you're saying. But one thing
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: I noticed last week myself even included people were saying, like, oh,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: but I don't know if I trust him. His price
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: is still not It's not like he's super cheap, and
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: it's he's not gonna be you know, if he's in
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: a bad game script he could be against Houston, et cetera,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: et cetera. So people were a little bit lenient to
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: go there, yet he kind of could get there at
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: a bunch of different ways, and he still does get targets,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: So why why not be interested if they're down? It
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: might actually end up being even better versus I think
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: people thought the opposite. So I kind of liked that call,
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: and it can apply both ways to this game. Let's
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: go to the next game. I'll kick it you right away.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Panthers at home versus the Bucks.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: I mean now that the Panthers actually have a functional
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: offense again, which is great news for the Bucks. Baker
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: Mayfield more touchdowns than any quarterback in the NFL since
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: the twenty since the start of twenty twenty three season,
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: which is insane. Once again, my favorite player. So I
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: love that he has Mike Evans back, who I think
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: is only going to that Hampsting's only getting stronger every week.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: Kate Otten. People have forgot what a target monster he
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: can be. Yeah, he had a slow week this last week,
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: but I think that's perfect. And then the Bucky Irving,
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: You know I did not. I guess I was just
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: like living under a fucking shell last week. Bucky Irving
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: got to double digit ownership in a three running back
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: backfield that just kind of shocked me. I didn't see
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: it coming and the mother father delivered, so like that
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: was just completely a mistake on my part to not
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: even consider him. So this is a great spot to
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: get some bucks in your lineups, and I honestly I
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: would love to sneak a panther in there. I'm just
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: not sure who the hell I wanted to be, Although
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Chuba Hubbard does seem to still have that backfield to
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: himself because the rookie Jonathan Brooks got five snaps and
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: two carries last week for his big debut.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I even think like you could have an overstack
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: on these bucks. I know it may not be for everybody,
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: but you know, Bucky was getting all the catches last week,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: and maybe people think, oh, now they saw that it's
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: the Oshawan Tucker still in there where Sean White's still involved.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: It scares people a little bit. Will have to wait
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: and see, but it's certainly a good spot. But he
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: can get You can go Baker, Bucky Aughton, you can
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: mix Evans in Edie.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: He went down.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: He was seven k last week. Now he's sixty seven hundred,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: and I get it. But it's like it's this is
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: a great spot. Still, I think anybody against the Panthers
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: I've got interest in, and now, like you said, maybe
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: they're a little bit more serviceable. I'd love, you know,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: I don't. I wish I'd love. It's crazy how you
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: can get the other side of this game for free. Basically,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: like you could run a triple stack here for what
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: nine grand? It feels like nine to ten grand, and
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: you're good, they're gonna, you know, be in a game
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: where you think they gotta put up points and be
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: down and they pass a bunch and all that, and
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: it's not really a good defense that they're going up
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: against here. So how do you think this game would
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: shake out? I know we're getting near the end anyway,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: at the end of the week. What category do you
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: think we see this thing fall into?
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: On the Stone for example, I mean, this game to
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: me just reeks of like a target game, right just
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: because of the potential points. I mean, it has a
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: forty seven point total, which is pretty high. It's going
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: to It has affordable players, and it has correlated players.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield, if he's going to have a big game,
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: he will be throwing the ball to Mike Evans and
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: Kate Otten and I would bet you money no other
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: receiver even gets five targets, so you basically have an
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: efficient offense with concentrated usage going to specific people. And
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: to me, that makes it a target game, like those
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: are the kind of games you want to target.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and if Tuba's too expensive for people, they but
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: I think people forget too also that they gave him
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: like a huge contract for Tuba Hubard. He was solid.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: They want this is their dude. They're good with them,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: They're still sticking with it. Why rush They didn't even
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: want to rush Brooks back in the first place anyway,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: because they feel good and then they still haven't. So
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: I know he's there. People will talk about that. But
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: he almost fits the Pollard spot of last week. I
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: think people will just again, we'll wait and see if
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: he becomes more chalky. I think one of the reasons
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: it fits a target game so well. To your point
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: is it's not sneaky. People know what this spot is
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: and the total is big, but people don't know exactly
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: who to play on the panther side, which sometimes leads
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: to and they you know, the running backs over here,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: there's too many to choose from et cetera, et cetera.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: But Cuba Hubbard would fit into the Pollard conversation from
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: last week where everyone was, you know, a little bit
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: much for him and it could be a bad game script.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Cuba's still getting targets, he's still getting attempts. They're still
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: gonna have the ball, they still have a twenty two
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: point total. They're gonna have a chance to make something work,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: and it doesn't take much to make it happen. But
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: he's pushing seven k. So I think, like you said,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: if you want to go Bucky evans Auten, run it
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: back with Cuba Hubbard, I actually have no problem with that,
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: and then just fill out with whatever you want after that,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: because I don't think it's gonna get too crazy. We'll
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: have to wait and see. Okay, let's see what do
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: we got here? One too Two more games to get to,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: and the first one up is the Rams at the Saints.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: Another big total here from you know, just these afternoon games.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: I guess take a step back for two seconds. Man,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: The afternoon games are loaded right like the are the
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: These are the big boy totals. These are where people
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: can find options to go and saving the best for
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: last maybe as far as quality of game back and forth,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: but for DFS, lots of goodness in all these games.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: Let's go into the second one. Rams, the Saints love it.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: I mean, these are two teams that have you know,
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: I think part of it's just Recncy bias. I've had
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: a lot of these guys on my teams during that heater,
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: So a lot of these guys are very warm in
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: my soul right now. But you give me the Saints
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: at home, and then you give me the Rams. When
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: Stafford has both Cup and Nakua, I mean, like this,
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: this has fireworks all over it. I wouldn't even mind
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: Derek Carr here right Like I think Derek Carr could
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: be good this week. Kamara, Taysom Hill, love them all.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: I don't run Stafford stacks, but I will almost certainly
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: have a rule of my thing that a lineup must
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: contained Cup or Nakua because one of those guys are
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: going off. And my opinion is is that Nakua has
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: taken over that number one spot right if you just
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: watch the games, he's getting the better down the field
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: shots than Cup in my opinion, So I probably nikuat
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: seventy six hundred just seems like a smash spot here,
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: and I don't even mind running it back with an
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: expensive you know, like Kamara or even Taysom Hill, which
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: as he is now up to five thousand, just because
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: I'm so confident this game is going to have some
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: fireworks in it.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this always scares people, but man, it's it's insane
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: too how much they end up using him in just
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: so many different ways. He can throw touchdowns, rush him
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: in wildcat out wide, like this guy literally does it all.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: And they paid him a lot of money too when
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: they did originally, so it's like they want to use
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: him still. They want to show him off. He's that
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: X factor for them, so I think that's certainly interesting.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: On the other side, it's what you said. If you
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: watch these games, it's he's looking for Nikoua every single time. Everywhere.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: His boy is still cup I'm sure, and he'll look
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: up with him too, and he got him the touchdown
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: the other night. But it's just saying Nikoua was the
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: guy he kept looking for. Robinson gets in the mix
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: a little bit at four K He's out there a ton,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: which is something to keep an eye on. So that's
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: at least something would you rather play, And again you
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: don't have to choose, You're allowed to play both, et cetera,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: et cetera. But would you rather DeMarcus Robinson or Marcus
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Valdez Scanty?
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: Well, first of all, like Stafford is a guy that
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: you probably want to double stack, right, So like if
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: you're going with the KUA, I wouldn't mind sticking to
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: Marcus Robinson, with him for the price savings. And just
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: before I forget to say, it does seem like Parkinson
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: has taken the spot back at tight end over Who
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: was that Allen guy or whoever it was, and everybody
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: was playing there for Yeah, so your question was who
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: mar Marcus Valdez scantling. I would only play him in
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: a game type stack like he would never be a
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: one off piece to me, or probably even correlation piece.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: It would probably be if I had a Stafford or
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: car stack here and I wanted him to be correlated
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: to car right or or as a as a big
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: play run back because he hits a bomb or two
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: against Stafford stacks.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: That would be how I would play him in the
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: only way I would play him.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to wait on Robinson to Speaking of that,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: I forgot it. I just saw that news yesterday posted
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: in the discord over at ship at that the he
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: was like suspected of a dui and they locked him
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: up overnight let him out in the morning or whatever.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: So that was a DeMarcus Robinson who they're talking about.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I didn't even hear that.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think it's gonna be a big deal
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: out to wait and see. But you know, not a
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: great look for sure. Yeah. I mean again, you'd be surprised.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys know this as much in the
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: chat as anybody. I watch a lot of football too,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Like these coaches, there's not too much discipline, and there's
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: not too often like if they're practicing and they're back
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: to playing and they're in the game, it's win the
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: football game and they'll deal with all the off field
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: stuff later on. It's not oftentimes you see a guy
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: get punished or anything like that because of something like that.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: It's usually the league coming down on them more than
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: their actual own team. If they're good to play and go,
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: but keep an eye on it. Nothing else here For me,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: I like that what you talked about. The game stacks
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: the teams can both throw a ton I guess one
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: thing that wasn't mentioned that I will have interest in
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: is still is Kien Williams. I know it's been bad
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: this last little bit, but again it's we'll all see
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: how it goes. If it's Kamara that picks up Steam,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: I like having them on the opposite side. We have
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: a good matchup here. I think a lot of people
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: this is a prime example to me DJN where again,
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: that's why the stone is beautiful. People look at this,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: they get hyped up. We get talking about is it Cup,
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: is it Nikua? Is it Parkinson that's back? Is it
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: DeMarcus Robinson? Not the Dui? They see this and they
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: somehow just glaze over this. And what I'm highlighting is
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: the past defense versus the rush d It's just as
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: good a spot for Kyle Williams here. He's been amazing
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: most of the season. It hasn't been great as of late,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: but it only takes one game to flip it around
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: him and get right back into the mix and swing
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: of things here. And I could definitely see him having
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: a great game and just seventy two hundred bucks, So
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: I'm good with him as well.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just the long term stats. When Nakua and Cup play,
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: Kiaren's stats go down dramatically. So not saying he can't
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: bust out of it. I'm just saying it is becoming
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: a long term trend that you need to know about.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's good. I just think that's
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: like me always is. You know, that's something that's in
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: the back of my mind. But I also think because
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: it's in the forefront of many others or that tends
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: to get thrown around. I look at it like it's
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: week thirteen, twenty twenty four. Anything can happen. It's still
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: a great spot. What if you know, Nikua and Cup
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: both have a PI that lands them there, and it's
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Kiroen that gets to jam two in on top of
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: a couple of big runs and a few catches and
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: now he really crushed at seventy two hundred. So it
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: can go a bunch of different ways. Let's go this
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: way to the last game, which is the Ravens at
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: home coming off the win versus the Eagles, And what
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: do you think about this game on a you know,
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: just a fan perspective. Do you think it's going to
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: be made a bigger deal of how good these two
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: teams are. I know they're not the upper echelon of
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: what people are considering on both sides because of the
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: Lions and the Chiefs and the Bills and all these
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: other teams. But you gotta think the Lamar versus Hurts
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: is still a big deal, right people.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: These are probably two of the top six teams in
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: the NFL. So I don't I think that it's gonna
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: get plenty of hype. It's just a great game, right
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: for DFS purposes. I mean, this does have all the
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: recipe for a big shootout. The problem is, man, they're
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: freaking expensive, Like there's no discounts in this game. Maybe
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: if Davanta Smith gets back, him at fifty eight hundred
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: seems like a bit of a miss underprice. But you know,
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: you always got to worry about guys coming back as
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: you have concussion or off injury.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: I can't remember.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to look at it here now with the
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: rule out for that, and I don't even remember why
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: he's out. I think Hamstring Hamstring was the original.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: Well, I get very leary of wide receivers coming back
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: from Hamstring's first week back, so he's probably off for me.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: And then the Ravens, man, I watched them last night.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: They're just their offense is so good, but like it's
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: expensive and it's not the easiest to stack right.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: Like Lamar didn't mind spread the ball around.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: So it might be one of those games where I
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: have to do what I do with the Lions right
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: and just kind of hope that everybody gets a little
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: bit and nobody goes ham and I'm able to survive
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: it because you know, just already looking through these first
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: nine games, I'm already seeing kind of how I want
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: my lineups built. And I don't know that I'm gonna
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: be able to get to eighty three hundred dollars A J.
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: Brown or eighty five hundred Taekwon Barkley or eight thousand
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: dollars Lamar Jackson. I mean, these are premium prices that
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: is gonna be hard to fit into these lineups. Because
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: as good as this slate seems this week, I don't
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: feel like we've been talking about very many values out there.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: I was just gonna say that's one of the biggest
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: pieces right now. It's early, it's Tuesday, But when you
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: don't have a ton of value on the slate. It's
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: really hard to you know, formulate a plan on how
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: you're getting to like Jalen Hurts and aj Brown with
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: a ze flowers or something on the other side, or
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: making something work. I am just going back a little
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: bit here to try and look at it, Like, you know,
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: the Ravens, I don't know, like you got to think
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: nobody's playing Barkley at eighty five hundred. They don't care
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: about how good his week was last week. They now
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: assume that he runs into this Ravens d that you know,
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: you just pass on them. That maybe they don't go
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: to Barkley as much as you would normally expect because
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: even if you are paying up this week somewhere, I
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: don't see a lot of spots to pay up. So
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: at some point you're gonna have to spend your money
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: or most people are going to I just wonder how
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: that goes. But you have to think more people are
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: gonna try and get to the passing game just because
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: what the matchup is so something to keep an eye on.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Will talk more about it as the week goes on.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: On the opposite side, it's so tough to pick between
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: these guys and the way they spread it out. I
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: talked about this on the show yesterday, the Ravens with
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: with Mitchell back it wasn't him and ended up being
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: Justice Seal. But what they're doing is they're just throwing
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: that defense off, using these guys and it ends up
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: being Justice sil that just took off. There was nobody.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: They were panting and looking for energy. He would just
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: they were already wore down trying to take care of
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, and I think that's titles point yesterday. You know,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw the show, but him
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: and Hoop going back and forth on this Lions versus
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: eye test on the Ravens. Yes, the Lions have looked
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: really good and et cetera. But you gotta think this
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: is what the Ravens got. You know, we know this
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: is what the Ravens got Henry for, and yesterday it's
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: starting to show signs of it. The expectations even more.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: Look at what he can do. You gotta worry about Lamar,
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: then you got to worry about Henry. That's already enough,
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: and now you've got to worry about that tiring the defense.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: Ou it's so bad that they can't even get to
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: a guy in some of these shifty dudes. So I
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: don't know. This game is interesting, big boy. Total here
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: two of the Titans going back and forth in Hurts
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: versus Lamar, Barkley versus Henry. I'm in there's every battle
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: within this game, so I'm interested to see how the
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: slate shakes out. Did you have any quick thoughts to
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: round it out on late swap? Like, to me, it
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: looks like people are already gonna be living in the afternoon.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: We may you can't late swap when six out of
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: the nine guys in your lineup were all in the afternoon. Yeah, Like, like,
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: what are gonna late swamp? Which is gonna mix up
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: the guys we already had picked for the afternoon. I
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: guess the good news is the more guys you have
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: available in your lineup that play in the afternoon, the
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: more freedom you have to go switch it around, because
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: you'll have you know, you can drop down here, move
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: up here more often. So maybe you have you know,
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: the early part of the day just goes horrific for
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: you or some you know, Burrow goes off at eight
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: percent and you feel like you're buried. Maybe go switch
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: to Bryce Youngstacks or something like that and just get
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: Filthy or Derek Carstacks and get off of your hurts
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: to Lamar and go switch to Saquan right and spend
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: that money there. So there could be just because there's
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: three really good games in the afternoon that people are
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: already gonna be playing, there could actually be the ability
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: for more late swapping, just because so much of your
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: lineup might already be built up from these late games.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was gonna ask because I think that's
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: a great point because of what you have three pretty
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: good games here. Obviously, if you're buried, it's yeah, don't
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: go to where the chalkiest spot is. This sort of
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: the standard late swap stuff. But do you have any
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: advice or opinion on you know, the sticking with your
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: gut thing when it comes to, Okay, you got a
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: low owned running back in the morning that went off
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: with a low owned defense. The rest of your lineup
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: is afternoon. Do you leave it on what you loved
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: and started with because that's what you were feeling and
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: that's what you liked, or do you say, now I
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: just have to move, because how do you really gauge it?
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: They're all big totals. They're all good games. You like
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: the stack you got what would make your thought process
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: change on something like that if you were already in
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: a spot that you loved versus what the projections tell you.
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't late swap as much as you probably
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: think I do talking to people out there, I just
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: always have it in my head that I saw that
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: that's an option, right, And the number one thing, really,
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: the only thing that really makes me change it is
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: if one or two stacks over five percent go off. Right.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: So let's just say Burrow goes for thirty eight and
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: takes Chase with you know, thirty five and Higgins with
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: forty with him right, Well, shit, that means that a
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: lot of people now have some pretty nutted lineups. And
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: let's say Sam Darnold does the thing with Jefferson and Addison. Well,
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: now I know that like ten percent of all lineups
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: out there are off to a nutted start that I'm
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: almost infinitely behind. And that's kind of where I decide, Okay,
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna get off my plays that I like this
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: week and go get slimy. But outside of that, if
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: no one's going off, you know, like I haven't seen
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: any stacks that really scare me. Like let's say, you
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: know who will levistat goes off at one percent. I'm
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: not going to go change everything because of that, because
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: a lot of the contests I play in are like
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: three thousand entrants, and so when one percent hits, like
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: what I'm worried about thirty lineups, I could still you know,
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: have a great finish even if I don't late swap
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: or you know, maybe my guys can still catch up.
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  Speaker 3: So I only do it whenever one or two big
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: stacks go off early.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I would say that a lot of people
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: build in a similar fashion, meaning like their mindset, whether
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: they're handbuilding or an opt like, they what they like
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: and what they got their most exposure to. So if
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: you have a mix in Texans lineup that goes off
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: in the morning, let's say, and it crushes for you
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: and it's a little bit lower on, you probably have
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: multiples of that. One thing I look at is obviously
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: I'm late swapping and looking at things where I'm blocked.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: If I'm in a high dollar live final qualifyer, and
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: I noticed somebody has the exact same money left as
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: I do, and they probably have the most common high
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: projected pairing. I'm looking to switch and get different and
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: take my shot and hopefully have the level up, but
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: you need to take it a level further. One would
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: be if it's a small swap like that. I've been
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: in spots where I happen to be on the same
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: secondary stack because I loved it. So I noticed that
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: my lineup in fifth has the same I have the
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: same secondary stack in my lineup in fifteenth. Well, I
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: love it, so I'm keeping it in fifth. I'm blocking
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: people and I'm sticking to what I love. But I
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: better swap by one in fifteenth because it's literally the same.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: I can't overlap my other but give myself a chance
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: to overlap it. And then to your point, if you've
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: got six or seven guys left in your lineup, because
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: it was just two in the morning that went off,
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: but you had a combo of lineups like that, I
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: probably don't want like a one v one in you know,
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: I have the same stack with the same run back
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: with one other guy, and then over here like now,
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: I have room to move where if you take the
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: time to look into that, maybe I say, Okay, I'm
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: gonna go to the I still like that game, but
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: I want the other side of it now, or you
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: know what, I'm a little leery of that game. Let
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: me pick my favorite one and move a full game
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: stack to a different spot in the afternoon and give
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: yourself a couple outs. Right.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And to me, this is the argument for keeping
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: your player pool semi tight. Right.
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: You know, whenever I'm making thirty or sixty lineup, so
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: you probably amaze how tight my lineups are, right. You know,
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: when I'm putting it in the ship, Tomizer, I'm telling
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: it to own that it only has to put two
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: new players in each lineup. So I'm okay having seven
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: guys the same in this lineup and in this lineup
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: and just switch too off because I know that sometimes
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: that could be the nutted lineup, and I want to
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: have the ability to just be able to make this
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: one switch to be the difference, right, And that's how
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: you can get a line up in fifth and in
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: fifteenth place and have that freedom. So to me, a
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: lot of this comes down to keeping a tighter player
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: pool so you have lineups that are similar and you
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: can make these kind of adjustments.
• 53:08
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